Not A Lie? Asrock Z790 Nova 👑
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Sorry I was guilty of this in my review. I don't think I said I got 8000 stable, but I did hit 8000 post on the nova. Will definitely DM you for memory claims in the future before I post a review brother.
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Oh dude I wasn’t even talking about you specifically, I went through EVERY single video about this motherboard and every single person said the same thing about the 8000 support. This is on Asrocks marketing team
@@FrameChasersabsolutely fantastic! 🤣
Nice!
Don't worry Jufes, the memory goes in upside down, 'down under' anyway. I think Yes may have hit -8000 at post?
Love your content. As someone who is waiting to upgrade, I’ve probably saved hundreds of dollars and countless headaches. I can’t afford an Apex, so your vids are gold. Kitty walks are a solid bonus.
Jufes I thank you for all of the continuous help toward the community. Your videos alone have helped me a ton the past year
Informative as always!
Never change man the tech world needs you!
I have this board, currently installing it, and didn't have high expectations for hitting 8000. I actually require 64GB anyway (DCS World), so I just need the capacity and won't be missing a few hundred MHz. I like all the other features for this price point, though, and I've got a 14900k.
Look I am not loaded, I am not a professional game player, I don't need 8000mhz memory. Getting over 7000 works for me... I trust your word and watch all your vids. I bought the Nova knowing ALL the pluses and minuses. Thanks for your work for the community!
If 7600MT works stable with no faffing then that's the one I'd go for.
How do you like the board so far? What CPU do you own?
@@AexoeroV I use a 14900k, and it works greet! Having 2 usb 3 headers is a g-dsend to me, and 5 SSD slots is great. It has an a real LED Debug readout in a board that cost me $270! Nothing like it in this money class!
@@whocares0503 cool thanks, everything is stable? What memory kits do you use with the board?
CPU VDD/2 is a motherboard rail to the CPU that doesn't touch the silicone. It is rated up to 1.6V, so 1.5v daily should be fine in theory, we would have to test it long term like you said to be sure.
But with that, my guess is Motherboard vendors are just going with what's in paper supposed to be max daily safe for vddq/TX (1.4-1.45v) and vdd2.
It'd be interesting to see if those theoretical daily safe voltages work long term in a regular use case scenario.
I feel like this is the only man who knows whats up ... Since I started watching this guy about a year ago My knowlegde has expanded and now I know these tech tubers have been talking out thier asses when it comes to CPUs and motherboards .
I got this board for $279 at Newegg. 8000 XMP posted without issue. However not stable for me.
7600 XMP was stable without FAFO.
So for the price this board is a phenomenal deal. But 8000 XMP plug n play it is not in my opinion. Still easy recommend if you don’t care about chasing bench records and just want to game.
Side note 2x32gb 7000 CL32 was a go.
What's your SA at?
Auto. I believe it was around 1.15v which is actually pretty low. It also set 1.4v for IMC XMP. @@Hardware_Neutral
Ok but maybe in future with some BIOS updates it will run even beyond 8000Mhz
Thanks to the supporters and Jufes for putting the best tech content on youtube.
Updated/Beta BIOS, as per the overclock forums, has voltage lower than that for XMP - FYI.
Asrock has really changed their reputation from a low end company to high tier value class just like Teamgroup did. Wish XMP tuned properly out of box tho
Agree 100 percent. I build systems as a side businesss, and have been using a ton of Asrock Parts over the years. Never Dissapointed by them.
Not surprised, even their cheapest b650 board for am5 hits over 75XX consistently. I can't remember the exact frequency I could get stable it was pretty close to 76 but I could never get 76 stable. Even 8000 booted but of course we all know how that turned out.... Obviously I got better results at 6400 CL26 but yeah...
Not sure if I’m just lucky or what. I enabled xmp to 8000 mhz and stressed tested memtest86 and got 0 errors.
Do they have xmp problems?
As I posted elsewhere, I am at 7800 (non xmp) stable. Cpu imc is what is preventing me from going further , not the mb .
How are you qualifying that? Not doubting, genuinely curious.
@oggiewalt6350 the voltages related to my cpu imc are around 1.43 for 7800, apparently 1.45 is the upper limit
@alexunkin Sorry ya got bummed on that. Currently rock solid on an apex at 8200 cl38 under 1.4. Will run and boot up to 8600, and 8400 is almost stable and very rarely errors, but I choke it to 8200 just to be safe. May be time to sell and get a new cpu if it matters to ya. There's not really a huge difference in our speeds except bragging rights and a few percentage points in 1 percent lows if that. You might even be pushing better timings than me, so who knows? Gl on it all!
I know you don't focus on budget oriented content, but I do believe the average gamer also has a right not to get scammed and maximize their builds
I agree but I don’t have a solution since budget gamers can’t afford to support creators to get the information they need, they are stuck with sponsored garbage
We got that information for free just a couple years ago before everyone sold old to advertisers. People used to give us just as much if not better information for free because it was what they enjoyed doing and they had the extra time and money to do it but then people like you came around with Greed, sponsors and adds and demolished those good people's channels because of how the algorithm works now. I really can't believe the way you responded to this persons comment and you lost me as a sub for it.
I highly doubt you will care as subs don't write you checks.
Ignorance is Bliss@@FrameChasers
First of all, thanks for the video! Mine is stable at 7600Mhz also. I grabbed two different 2x16GB 8000Mhz brands and tested both, the T-Force Deltas were much better in my testing than the G.Skill, but I saw the same thing you did. 1.45V on both. At 7600, I've had it at 1.36V/1.36V and 1.18V VCCSA for the past week or so. For $280, I think it's a great board, and I don't want to whine about it, but was disappointed I couldn't get 8K XMP working stable (cooling and all).
Is yours stable at 7600 mhz with 1.36v with XMP? Have you tried 7800mhz? Which ram sticks do you have?
Came for NOVA, stayed for the CAT😊
Jufes, I’ve been a subscriber for a couple years now. You’re looking absolutely shredded my dude! Props, love the content
I just noticed that wiener mug on the stand in the background lmao 😂
Max I got was 7800. Had to adjust VCCSA to 1.25 to stabilize it.
What VDD cpu and cpu imc voltage
@@Frosty-dr8bs I left VDD to auto and IMC to 1.430
Was it stable? Also which ram and capacity?
I like this board. When i move to 360hz after my gpu and 360hz oled purchase ill check it out. I got 240hz in the games i want currently. Waiting for boxing day pricing.
I just finished my build with this board with a 14700k, G Skill 32GB 7200. I love it in the 5000X 01/01/2024 2106
I think this board is great, also it has 6x M.2 slots... Its mostly high end board with mid range price tag.
The m.2 slots are sick. I'm all m.2 storage now. No more SATA cables or sleds!
Asrock has impressed me, I have 7600 stable on a 14700k with the z790pg riptide, which is a gen 1 z790. Can easily post 7800 too and benchmark but I haven’t gotten it stable yet and not sure if I will be able to. Fails after 10 minutes of Karhu but still for a 4 dimm cheap mobo thats insane
7600Mhz is already more than double the sweetspot of AM4!! So what do you all want more??!
If a motherboard advertises 8000mhz then it should work without any issues 🤷🏻♂️
It does. It just takes about 10 minutes of research on Google on how to make it work which is the same time as this video.
@@cameron818 you shouldn’t have to look up how to make it work. Just set xmp 🤷🏻♂️. Research & looking up should only be if you’re attempting to surpass the advertised speed
I picked one up around xmas, have a 14700k 5.9 on 2 cores, 5.7 on the rest (4.5 e cores) . Board is running 7200c34 gskill tridentz @ 1.4v (no suicide voltages lol), so far no issues with mem test or occt. Only had one hang during memory testing and opening closing windows/hw info, but other than that, solid. Cant beat the price/features on this board. Plus like you said, it's a NICE looking board :)
Genuine as always my guy. Keep up the amazing work!
The memory controller is on the CPU so boards don’t always hit what they’re rated for. Big brands get gold samples to validate claims.
The only problem i have with ASRock is the naming scheme for the X-generation. Putting "WiFi" in the end is not the most eloquent thing to do. Riptide WiFi is a good value too if you don't rate having a postcode that much.
I have a Z790-C from ASRock and it will post 8000MHz, no chance of getting it stable tho. The board is only rated for 6800MHz. I have it running 7200MHz for daily use, I'm pretty happy with it
Hopefully there's going to be something like X670 Nova. The features and specs you got for that price is pretty insane.
Got this board but didn't manage a whole lot better than on my Maximus Z790 Extreme. Actually, with my garbage SP96 14900K, even the stock settings aren't stable on the NOVA without raising LLC manually where Asus works perfectly. I got almost 7600 stable on some bootups with manual voltages and testing with Karhu and then errored on the next boot. It'll require a lot of tuning to get anywhere stable 8000 unless you already got a golden CPU. I like their BIOS a lot though. Remember that getting memory subsystem to run stable at high frequencies is just one thing in a list of things that you would want from a motherboard.
Love the videos man, gotta say the best part was you and Lyla going for a walk, priceless 🥰
For under $300 thats a massive W. they need to just come clean on the QVL
Very nice content bro, love it. And I also love the night walk with the 😻🫶
Bro, you literally did what you said you would. Thank you!
Im getting 8200 with the Encore Apex ... Did Post on 8400, but not able to use... With the White APex only got 8000
I like your style of presentation
Running 2x32GB 7000MT/s CL32 on the baby version of this mobo. ASRock Z790 Riptide Wifi. My mobo won't go above 1.52V on Ram though. At 1.55V I think I could do 7200 CL32 Stable. Which is top tier for 64/96GB kits. RAM degradation would be 1.6V+. Just have plenty of airflow if you increase voltages. Heat is the degrader mainly
Thanks for the straightforward and unbiased analysis.
Putting this on my consideration list. Looking foward to the gigabyte video.
I bought this and this 7200 mhz ddr5 (48gb) that he recommends. I’m a cod bro but I’ve been building and overclocking in my free time for fun, is there any ddr5 blocks that fit over rgb and are needed in order to run the xmp?
Oh man those the gigabyte board is going to be a fun video lmao 😂
You deserve more subs, stay true to yourself! ❤
Great review :) cant wait to see your next debunking video for the Aorus Elite X (Wifi7) that i own :) happily one of my favourite channel TechYESCity replied to your video
Any plans on revisiting 5800x3D vs 7700x vs 7800x3D vs 14900k in newest version of warzone ? Dunno what they did, but performance on my 7950x(undervolted,no smt,tuned 6000mhzcl28+buildzoidtimings) went from 160-190fps(since season 3 till season 6 cpu performance was awfull using 4090, saw no gain coming from rtx 3080 ) to touching near 300fps in ashika and vondel after integration of mw3, can't believe cod fixed poor cpu performance this time.
Thanks for the info my brother.
I'm certain the issue isnt the board its the ram cooling issue. Ram pcbs are getting too hot and not being actively cooled. Again thats not a mobo limitation
Really wish I'd have stumbled across this board before I bought my MSI Godlike. Could have gotten all of the performance at 1/3rd of the price
Asrock making a comeback. I remember when they were considered utter trash
Seeing Lela 🐈at the end of every video is worth the watch alone 🥰👍😇. Definitely a nice looking board at what seems a reasonable price. Keeping an eye out on this one!
Team Group 32 GB DDR5-8000 try these memory sticks instead and see if you will hit 8k mHz on this ASRock Nova MoBo.
At 4:13...you're on the October BIOS (3.01.BD02). Try updating to 3.08 BIOS from December 8th which was specifically published to improve memory compatibility. Should hit 8000 no problem.
No difference
@@FrameChaserslol
Just give it to me straight jufes.... then I only trust you to do it! Tell my family I love them.
Give back my AMD crown in the thumbnail I need to hope 😂
Even the Z790 Apex can't do 8000 XMP most of the time, you should try to stabilize it manually as you do with 2x DIMM motherboards and see how it goes. I wonder if it will hit 8000MT/s with some thinkering (and I bet it will do)
Did you not watch the video, 7733 max with custom tune
@@FrameChasers Yeah you said you could probably get it stable with more time/effort but didn't want to spend too much time on it. The video's good info but felt a little rushed. BTW I like your content, I didn't mean to sound harsh or anything, it's just some constructive criticism.
I spent 3 days trying to get 7733 working. You only see zoom cuts. Why do you think the video took so long to come out. Make your own channel if you think I give misinformation.
great review thanks !
Great review as always
I bought the 14900k and I need the best aio for it can u tell me what is the best I saw the artic 420mm and there's the new lian li ga ii tiny performance
Thank you Jufes, great vid, you're the goat
I play Nova StarCraft 2 coop, should I buy Asrock Nova?
Thanks for all the people who support this channel
My friend did get a Z790 Nova and had good luck with the motherbord, perhaps is the memory sticks you using?
Would you prefer it over the gigabyte refresh?
Would you go with this board over the MSI Z790 tomahawk max WiFi ??
Are you planning to check out the Tachyon X board? It doesn’t look like they changed anything lol
Sorry I'm still too satisfied with my 5800X3D on Dark Hero X570 Board. I'd only upgrade if I buy a 4k 240Hz monitor and get a 5090 for under 1800€👍🏻
Bit I also want to wait for DDR6 memory!
Reviewers claiming 8000 mhz or mts are as bad as Congress and that sucks. No trust anymore. That is a sign of a massive unraveling.
And there are msi boards cant do 7000mhz lol (except unify x and itx ofc)
sounds like a good board generally speaking.
can you run DDR5 in the 4 slots on the nova board as I believe 4 memory sticks are not very stable.. Or am I wrong
thanks
Whats the most important voltage to adjust if you are around 8 hours stable? I can't pass that :/
If I got some 7200 ram what would you recommend volts wise since 1.5 is a suicide volt.
Hi! I cant understand, your making video about overclocking, but actually you did only overvoltage. what about timings, where's real overclocking? are you sure about you memory? P.S. for that price looks like perfect board and 7600 has a slight difference from 8000. Thanks for review
So I got 8k hz xmp stable no problem on first try turning it on. What are the chances of that happening? I heard it's crazy rare.
Also played a few hours of warzone no problem
Do you think its worth upgrading to the 14900k and Z90 even tho its EOL? currently on a i9 12900k and PRO Z690-A ddr4 1440p 240hz OLED 4090
no it is just fomo.
Depends on ur gpu. I upgraded my ddr4 from 3200 cl 16 to 3600cl14 bide for 60$. Contact frame for more higher clock speeds for $1. Upgrade at the lowest cost to performance. If you have a low end gpu it’s not even worth thinking about I have 12600k and 6950xt if I oc max I can max it out on all the games I play.
I'd say stick to 12900k until the LGA1700 is replaced unless you're not even close to matching your monitor's specs.
Definitely not. Max out that 12900k with some B-die and enjoy gaming. I run a 13900k on a shitty Z790 Tomahawk ddr4 with 4200c15. It works fine. I've had fomo too but for me it's not worth spending $1k+ for 14900k, Apex, Hynix-A die. I'm thinking of getting a 7800x3d/b650e/Hynix A for like $600 to truly see which system I prefer. The loser will go in my son's PC. Lol.
on 12th gen 40 ns latency is the highest bandwith for memory controller. I think that’s like 4000 something cl
But at 7600 was the voltage also at the same rates? I have this board on my list to build...also is the 14th gen going to give you anything more than a 13 Gen? Thanks
Hi Jufes, I just buy Karhu... Can you tell me for 32GB Hynix A die, do I need change something in the settings first or is OK to just start test on default?
Can you still get decent performance with DDR4?
Can’t believe Jufes is still stuck under 30k subs 🫣
It's not that surprising in the Overclocking Community
Hey i got the nova last week and when i restart i dont get thw bios splash screen, can unstable ram cause this?
Hello, thanks for such good videos, I have a question for you, which motherboard from this list is better ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE, ROG MAXIMUS Z790 FORMULA or ROG MAXIMUS Z790 DARK HERO?
It's good that you're obviously reading the Overclocking Forums and learning. The only thing you should have corrected is 1.6 is not considered a "suicide voltage" Keep learning and you'll continue to grow!👍
What does stable mean when it comes to ram?
Me who cant OC ram:
"Wait VDD_CPU wtf is that?"
This board is beautiful. Wish is was a 670
Now just for the tachyon X
mine is runing at 7800mhz without a problem
How far away are we from running 8k consistently?
Thanks for the video Jufes. If any one is able to advise me, is this a better board than the msi edge / carbon WiFi editions? At the moment I’m assuming so as this is being considered as a cost effective alternative to the Apex?
They’re approximately the same cost in the uk at the moment.
Hi Jufes! I'm new to your channel. I see you're doing something that no one is focusing on. That's very impressive. Could any random dude like me ask you to review PUBG CPU performance or do I have to be a supporter?
7600Mhz is already more than double the sweetspot of AM4!! So what do you all want more??!
Great Video Juffy Luffy! 10/10
No PLL tuning is pretty disappointing to be quite frank. Using 6-8 bins as described on asrock boards which translates to 90-120mv offset of any other boards helps stabilise higher mem speeds. My very cheap ASRock Z790 PG Lightning does 6800CL32-39-39-28 at 1.5v vdimm 1.35v TQ/VDD2. Going forward this is worth checking on your boards, I don't think it's "thorough" to avoid those. Still good to see it's easily stabilising 7600. 7800 should easily be on the cards with PLL tuning. Thanks for the rundown, hopefully as part of the aorus shakedown you can experiment with the PLL voltages to see the positive effects when stabilising higher mem speeds. Thanks for the video.
I agree pll is the only reason I got 8267 stable on my apex needed a 0.3v over volt on 2 of the pll rails , I assume a better bin cpu wouldn’t need as much but for avg memory controller sp it’s almost necessary
Interesting. What PLL tho? CPU PLL or?
@@branchprediction9923 memory controller and sa were the two important ones for me to get ddr5 fully stable on 24hrs of karhu and 7 hours of tm5 absolut on a z790 apex rev 1
@@branchprediction9923 CPU, SA and MEM controller PLLs.
@@Colehh it is under Voltage Configuration, isn't it?
Is a Asus Z790-P any good? I bought it for only 30euros. (bent pins, still works fine) Maybe i can upgrade to 13th or 14th gen intel for cheap. I now have a ryzen 5 5600x + 2080 ti.
Nice video, can you do a test with 192GB?Thanks
I will if you buy me the Ram
This costs almost 400 usd now... I'll stick with my 230 usd MSI tomahawk at 6000Mhz thank you very much
I set my xmp to auto, it auto ran 8000mhz and computer seems stable. Aid64 benchmarks seem pretty quick (115.45GB/s memory read). What gives? How do I test for stability?
Too many variables. Which RAM did you test it with?
@Saad-Sadiq g skill 48gb 8000mhz cl40. It post and ran windows without a hitch. Had errors on memtest64. Didn't run games without crashing. 7600mhz ran stable without voltage tweaks.
Killer video as always
but jufes, what about the noh-va?
i have a 7800x3d and i dont get amdips (whhy did i say? cause in a vid from 3 months ago said to comment down bellow ur cpu and if u get amdips so i did it here)
my pc has been running stable on latest bios running xmp @7200mhz on my tgroup delta 7200mhz sticks. done a cold boot yesterday morning and got error 53 so then hard reset the pc and it came on?. then today similar problem but i was faced with the qcode erro 55 which means no ram i reseated ram once again and done a hard reset pc came back on? i have memtested the ram and it appears to be fine no errors. am i best to disable fast boot in bios and mrc fast boot? this computer has my head gone how it is so tempermental after playing for hours without issues? any help is much appreciated