Schott Perfecto 618: Jacket Overview
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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Overview of the jacket and a few details that are hard to discern from looking at pictures online.
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Thanks for the detailed overview on this model! Nice to know that Schott also offers a fur collar, for I always associated that feature with Langlitz.
Thanks Trent. First time with the long form video so there’s of course a bunch I’d like to do better. And yeah, Langlitz does a fur collar but lots and lots of makers do. Regardless of the maker, fur collar on a biker jacket looks so cool heh
I’ve always said it … you’re never too old to wear a biker jacket…I’ll be buried in mine.
Love this comment 👍🏽
trends come and go.. but pieces like Leather jackets are timeless.. 😊
Awesome jacket. I have the exact same one, also vintage and it’s my favorite jacket to wear :)
Thank you Herme! Classic for good reason 😎🤘
Great video! I love my 618 horse hide. And I wear it riding my motorcycle all the time. They really thought about the rider when they originally designed this jacket. As you said it has extra arm reach, but the shorter length keeps it from bunching up on you when in the sitting/riding position.
Thanks Bob! I haven’t tried the Schott horsehide because I thought it might be too shiny, but the more I see it the more I like it. I’m still learning to to make good RUclips videos, would like to revisit this one once I have more practice
@@DudsByDel it’s very stiff until you warm it up
Best jacket,hhmm love that,
Thanks!
Great review of a great jacket!
Thanks! At some point will have to revisit it. My first video, very much still learning how to do this :)
Looks great man, i have the 618 (a newer one) and i absolutely love it. Can't wait to add more pieces to my collection, i also have a tailored Langlitz and a used one bought off the rack that I cut into a vest.
Thanks man. Even since posting this I’ve learned the cut is actually the same nowadays, though possibly the leather is different. I have a 7 or 8 jackets currently
@@DudsByDel I was wondering if there was something different between the vintage leather and the newer leather only because I noticed mine doesn't creak or squeak at all, I thought it was strange because all the videos I watch featuring vintage Schott jackets including yours definitely sound like they are squeaky LOL
@@grimeyhonkyracing3938 hah yeah. you know it could be the hide itself or just might be a need for conditioning? Not sure.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Just got a Schott jacket that has a Vincent’s tag over the Schott label
Is it a store? Vincent’s?
It looks great on you👍
めっちゃ似合ってる👍
Thanks very much
My dream 😊I wonder which model is more suitable for tall ones?
Not sure. Some folks have told me the 618 still works, some like the longer models
かっこいい革ジャンですね！私も馬革のショット618を持っています。
Yes indeed! The Schott horsehide is nice, however I find it a little shiny for my personal preference
You're lucky to live in a country that perfected this style of jacket
I wouldn't take a Schott over a Double Helix J24 though
Schott is a great brand bang for buck wise. Saint Laurent's is not as good quality as a Schott and won't last as much as one. A properly fitted moto is the only jackt you would ever need in your lfe IMO, either a Perfecto or a Racer, or even a Moto vintage, pretty much a cafe racer but with a shirt collar on it. I cannot personally afford a Schott and the best jacket i now own is a vintage Dockers from naked cowhide, i recently put a pretty generous wax layer on it to waterproof it (Still there is a couple months left for the rain season to start in my city) I also got a racer made of calfskin, and i am looking forward to buy a double rider or trade it for something i have.
Greetings
Agreed, it will last forever so if the style and fit are good you are set! I also like the vintage Gap jackets if you can still find them
Honestly Schott is a joke like SL😂
Unless you've got a 1940's reproduction made by Double Helix (with the better quality of leather they use) I wouldn't buy a Schott since they are charging custom jacket prices but aren't in the same league of RMC/Aero/Thedi
@@richardcostello360 I have to disagree. Thedi is totally on another level. But Schott and Aero I put about on par. Aero has more interesting designs and hides, but Schott has better fit
great video! please do a review of your 370/375 roughout leather
It’s in the works!
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Hey King B! Thanks man
How well does this jacket hold up in the colder months? It's regularly in the 30s and lower 40s where I live.
The leather itself just stops wind, it’s all about the lining and what layers you can fit. Wool flannels and sweaters provide a lot of warmth for the space they use
It's fine for those temps and will look great with a long sleeve wool shirt or zipper hoodie underneath
this one looks like 90’s or 80’s model the main zipper and tag are a giveaway the new ones have better leather and fit
It’s something I want to look more into. Yes I think it’s from 90s due to the buckle, ideal sleeve zips, and pocket tag. However I’ve been hearing this cut and hide have been the same since they put the collar snap back in after the time it was gone in the 80s. Same goes for the label.
Greetings sir. For some reason i cannot find fitted double rider jackets here in Mexico. My first one was oversized on the shoulders and since it had a back gusset, it couldn't be fitted even by the leather workers in my city. Second fitted larger but got torn apart. Third is slightly oversized in the shoulders but overall fits nicely and makes me look more stout. Is made in the thickest and heaviest leather i have found in Mexico (Around 3.5oz) and has padding on the shoulders. I guess i will wear that jacket when i want to intimidate someone. I got a fitted racer but that is far thinner and lighter. Also got a calf bomber (Here in the country, since horsehide is very rare to find, the leather that is the most similar in that kinda stiff and shiny texture is calfskin, surprisingly) and a thick cowhide Dockers which used to be a kind of delivery jacket but i put zipps on the sleeves and a mandarin collar to make it look sportier. That is a vintage, like 30 or almost 40YO. I wanted to get a brown racer with the makers of the latest double rider jacket since they charge like 80 bucks for one, in cow / steerhide, with a single piece back, double gussets, an elastic, quilted liner and such. I am still waiting for a good rainy day to pop here in the city to wear one of 'em and soak the sleeves a bit to kinda break it in quicker. I would be crazy if i took 'em out in the sun that has been extremely hot lately, pretty much dog days of summer since April and May. Hopefully heat will tame down soon enough, in a couple of weeks, and i'll be having a bit of a flood here in the house, but anyway. Nothing that a hike on 6 inches of water with military boots and a hood to release the garage plumbing can't fix. Best wishes
Interesting. Hope you can find the jacket that you’re looking for. Would a local maker be willing to build the jacket to your size?
@@DudsByDel The third one i bought recently and it's surely the best fitted i have found. The company made that one in a light hide but had a lining that i didn't like as much and the back and sleeves had more seams than i would like, so it was kind of a compromise. Heavier leather and materials overall but a slightly bulkier fit, or a better fit in a light leather that will get easily damaged and stretch out, so i went with the first.
A couple of local makers do make them but i do find them flaws. The cheapest makers (Still some 30 bucks more expensive than the one i got, it's brand new sir, less than a week from having been made) leave the slanted or glove pocket zipper very low, barely above the hand warmers, leave the back with a central seam that i find poor, a lapel shape that i don't like as much, and a very thin leather, even when being moto grade. They also lack an elastic on the back gusset so it accordions out a lot and doesn't come back to shape.
The other makers do have better hides like horse and thick bovine but could only make it in lambskin i guess, because they kinda run out of hides and they have stopped making garments as much, so i guess they don't order the same variety of leather as back in the day. That store is like 60 years old. Their pattern is better but they cost far more than any of the other ones from the country. More than double the price. As i recall, there are no other manufacturers in the city and only a couple of resellers from garments made in Leon, Guanajuato, and from one of them i knew the atelier i got the new jacket from, but they were at double the price so i contacted them personally.
I have owned jackets of both companies though, i have my complaints on both of them, more on the cheaper company , but anyway, still getting 'em modded kinda gets everything better. I now have a racer by that company, a bomber by the other makers (Got a deal on that one, NOS, 50 bucks!) the vintage Dockers and the newer double rider from León. Belts, i just collect veg tanned ones, they kinda take the beating the best. A single wallet that my mom bought from artisans, a small purse shaped as a jacket which i don't really use but got for the souvenir, a bag from Leon made of calfskin, a couple of pairs of shoes from cowhide from there as well... Owned several jackets before but i don't have them anymore. Greetings sir
@@javierdiazsantana very different from my experience so it’s interesting to hear about it. Another friend lives in Indonesia I believe, and he has similar stories of sourcing his jackets and other garments
@@DudsByDel Thank you sir. Greetings once again, take care and best wishes from Mexico.
Dónde compraste la tuya? Igual quiero una 618 que quede ajustada pero no sé si ir por la talla 32 o 34, mido 1.70cm peso 73 kg
Great reviews- can you tell me please what size you would recommend for me if I wore a mesh motorcycle armoured shirt underneath- shoulder, back and elbow armour
I’m a 40-42 regular
I’m thinking a 44 perfecto ?
Cheers
Thanks. Without more info, 42 or 44 sounds right
As an older man do you feel you can dress this up not to look like trying too hard ? Maybe a dress shirt underneath?
Yes I regularly wear it with button up shirts. Consider this video ruclips.net/user/shortsvuNhNhhTlJw?feature=share or this one
ruclips.net/user/shorts7X1G9arTN1o?feature=share. Also some styles are easier to dress up, halfbelts and similar styles that have a straight zip, dress collar, fewer pockets etc
Jackets like this are easier to dress up
ruclips.net/user/shortsXAWOOMGpKLs?feature=share
Did anyone ever purchase the fur collar?
I've been considering one myself. Last I checked they were on backorder status, but they're available now...temptation rising heh
I did purchase the fur collar for my 618, game changer!!
@@thegent5101 nice. How do you wear yours? Collar popped up or down?
Still in the break in period for mine, with the fur collar I'll probably wear it up,but either way up or down they are beautiful jackets! Thank you for you videos, very informative
How tall are you? I’m trying to figure out my size.. I’m pretty picky on fit. I’m 165, 5’ 8” and so far showing my chest at a 40. I tend to favor a more slim fit but I want to be able to comfortably zip it up from time to time.
Hey man I’m 5’9” 175 lbs with about a 40.5” chest and this is a size 40. Do you know your chest size?
Based on measurements it’s coming out to be a 39/ 40.
@@natek9237 yeah it’s tough, seems like you may be in the middle. I’d try which one you think is best and go from there
@@DudsByDel how did the jacket feel for you when you got it? Such a big purchase lol, it’s hard to pull the trigger with the size in question.
@@natek9237 are you measuring your chest with a soft tape or equivalent? Wearing just a t shirt, at the widest point?
Hello. one question. how tall are you?
Hey there Jonathan. I’m 5’9”. I’m about 175 pounds with about 40.5-41” chest
@@DudsByDel What size is it?
@@naturacuted1414 it’s a 40 from a few decades ago. Modern 40 is about 1 or 1.5” longer but otherwise the same to my understanding
Why no review for thedi?
An excellent question. It’s because I had already sold the Thedi jackets I had due to fit issues prior to starting the RUclips channel. I’ve been working through jackets that are actually on hand first. Have considered doing a review of my experience & opinion (they are very good jackets) even without one present.
Great jacket, I should get one, but it's too expensive
Buying new can be expensive. There is a lively used market on eBay, grailed, etc where you can buy for much less if you are patient. Would a video showing how to buy used be helpful?
@Del DeJean yes it would give tips, thank you !
Get it! I bought mine in 2012..cost me 750$ new! I am a motorcycle rider..have multiple leather jackets..this one is my favorite and i wear it 80% of the time. For over 10years..lot of fun..lot of rock concerts..lot of km with it..still as new. The inner pocket got destroyed cause i always kept my keys in it…beside that, nothing.
If you think this is expensive then I wouldn't look up the Japanese brands or Aero Scotland 😂
@@richardcostello360 or Himel, or Thedi, or any of the fashion brands charging 5000+ and so on. That being said, $800-1000 is still a lot of money
Handsome
Thanks man
The secret to pulling this jacket off is not being fat.
Hi! What is your height and weight please (in cm/kg if you can) ?
Hey there Vincent. I go over my size in a newer video about Fit and Layers, but they are not in cm/kg. I am 175.25 cm, 79kg. My chest measures about 104 cm around.
Thank you very much for your help! I’m considering buying a Schott Perfecto but I’ve never had one before so I don’t know my size.
@@-NIRN- do you have a soft measuring tape? Getting your chest size and height are very helpful
Sure, I have one 😊
Thanks I am 54 covered in tattoos. I have an opportunity to purchase a very high quality knock off from Mexico for $150. Leather is super thick high quality. I guess I would dress it up with a collared shirt. Too good of a price to pass up....or not 😮
With that kind of jacket you’ll never know unless you go for it. Good luck if you decide to take the plunge!
How tall are you?
Hey man I’m 5’9”
@@DudsByDel thank you, im on the shorter side thats why i ask 😅
@@bandlover4life472 no worries man. Sizing is a pain I get it!
Does the jacket weigh 5 pounds ?
Hey there. Just weighed with the bathroom scale, it’s about 4.8 pounds. Take that with a grain of salt considering the method
It's clearly too small for you dude.
Perhaps it looks short. But not too small. It’s a short jacket by design
You look more like a blazer guy. I think the jacket would suit you better if you shaved your head.
Thankfully I’m not being cast by type in a movie so I get to wear what I want. I’ll eventually shave my head but for now the lady likes it. Have a good one man
@Del DeJean Yeah, I can't imagine someone like David Cross being cast as a badass lol
It looks ridiculously short on you given that the sleeves are normal length. Idk what's up with these type of jackets being extremely short, it looks like it's been made exclusively for women to show off their rear. But for men leather jackets are supposed to be loose and large to make a statement and cause an impact
Sounds perhaps like you'd like the leather jackets worn by the guys in The Sopranos. But classic motorcycle jackets are short. Good enough for James Dean, Marlon Brando, all of The Ramones etc. Good enough for me
40 size usually has 50 cm chest witdh. Is your jacket on video same size?
US leather jacket makers typically do more like 54-56cm chest
@@DudsByDel omg...it makes sense because I was looking for it on the Japanese market. And as we know, they have smaller sizes, I didn't even think of that! Thanks!
@@johnwayne6561 it does depend on the model number. If the model is 618, for example, will be same no matter where you buy it. But there are Japanese specific models that have different cuts