Marco Pantani Tour de France 1998 - Galibier/Les deux Alpes -English comment- Parte 1/2
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- Pantani attacca sul Galibier a 45 km dall'arrivo e vince tappa e tour. Marco Pantani wins with 9 mnutes of advantage over Jan Ulrich and becomes the new yellow jersey of the Tour !!!
Marco Pantani vince la tappa con 9 minuti di vantaggio su Jan Ulrich e conquista la maglia gialla !!!
Marco Pantani primero con 9 minutes ante a Jan Ulrich y es la nueva camiseta amarilla !!!
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The spectacle of Marco, in the drops and out of the saddle, going up a 9% grade, on a bike made out of metal, is just so gritty and old school.
Indeed.But let's not forget that his aluminium Bianchi is around 7 kilos.But still,sitting down and mashing down what seems to be 39/21(I think),is remarkable.
You will be surprised how light that metal bike is
The good old EPO days with big attacks. TDF not the same anymore.
@@stennilsen9584 same conditions for all cyclists back in the days. But. Marco prevailed, and showed the world something unimaginable that warmed our hearts for years and years.
@@chrisrenwick6236
And a tiny frame is lighter still.
Last week i was in France and i bought a special edition of Newspaper "L'Equipe", called "Sommets de Légende". It was dedicated to the historic mountains which will be climbed in 2017, especially Galibier and Izoard. I was really disappointed to find out that among the greatest stages of Galibier there was not Pantani epic climb in 1998. Furthermore, it was even ridicolous to notice that there was 1986 stage, with Hinault who won without taking the yellow jersey, since Lemond came together with him. LMAO.
+Antonio: It's a hard one to comment on for too many reasons for a RUclips comment, but I get your sadness and more than partially agree with you.
The day Jan Ullrich lost the Yellow jersey for ever
RIP Pirata. The most exciting rider ever
i wanted to write a comment...but Yours is perfect so I just give a like;)
Must have been nice to watch tdf before they had a EPO test. Not the same crazy attacks anymore .
@@stennilsen9584 not even EPO, it's the power meter than killed aggression. I mean even into 2010-2011 we had some awesome attacks and battles like on the Tourmalet etc. Sure, time gaps weren't as crazy but guys still went. Not its Jumbo Ineos train and attack with 100 meters to pick up time bonuses. Horrible. They need to get rid of power meters.
@@blackmamba3060When thinking of the great attacks of the era you mentioned, Contador really was the last great rider to ride that style. His attempts at gaining time back in 2011 were reminiscent of some of the pirate’s attacks from way out.
Today marks the 20th anniversary of this amazing win.
Despite all the subsequent scandals, trials, battles and eventually his passing, Pantani's legacy lives forever and fans here in Italy consider him a legend and remember him basically everywhere.
No matter what has been said and will continue to be said about him, he made us amazing emotions and his presence saved cycling here.
Jason really? I mean, sure thing champions like Contador, Indurain or Wiggins admire everything he did regardless of doping, but I have read many non-Italian articles talking only about his EPO-positive tests, his fall from grace and how cycling in the 90s was rotten.
I have never met any Pantani fan outside of Italy to be honest. I really hope to be wrong.
I love watching Pantani ride. Noone like him today.
bhu vidya Yep.
He was capable of making us feel such thrilling emotions...he was by far the most popular Italian athlete in the late 90s and, as I said, despite all the stuff he went through later in his career, cycling really misses him.
Italy misses him.
We need more cyclists like him today.
@@SoporificMidori Dont believe the hype, press worldwide sucks but many many many people around the world consider Marco to be the one and only best climber of the world ever to have lived. For me valentines day is one of the saddest days of the year. This beautifull friendly guy who wanted to get out of cycling the day he found out about doping. I still love cycling but i miss him so much.Grazi Marco, r.i.p.
@@SoporificMidori EPO-positive test? You talk without knowing, and say BS, one after the other one.
"what Marco did today was bad for me but extraordinary for cycling" Jan Ullrich said at the end of the legendary galibier stage of the tour 98. When he literally saved a tour that risked not even arriving in Paris due to continuous doping scandals during that edition. Jean Marie LeBlanc thanked him no longer inviting him from 2001 onwards.
Here it is. This can be enough to tell what Marco's life was. The most exciting sportsman I've ever seen. one too special to feel good in this world.
Pantani é uma daquelas personalidades que jamais são esquecidas, mesmo não tendo ganhado tantos títulos como Armstrong, Indurain, Merx e outros, seu estilo era único e nos fazia delirar. Todo amante do ciclismo e do esporte em geral deveria conhecer a história desse showman (Il Pirata). Maior escalador de todos os tempos e grafado, por toda a eternidade, em todas as bicicletas que estejam a subir. Saudades campeão!!!!
armstrong ha perso tutti i suoi titoli per doping!!!
Imho the greatest attack in tdf history. Too epic. Great era for cycling.
Sono passati quasi 12 anni, e questa tappa resta indelebile nella memoria, come l'annuncio dato durante la gara da De Zan: "Pantani è virtualmente maglia gialla!"... Ricordo che saltai in piedi sul divano, in piena euforia. Forse nessun altro evento sportivo mi ha dato quell'emozione... Ullrich che si pianta, Marco che vola, in piedi sui pedali fino all'ultimo centimetro.Sembrava corresse contro se stesso e basta. Gli altri, pur grandi corridori, erano solo spettatori...
This is an epic stage for the ages.
Best attack ever. That's all. Pantani was a great climber and good man like Miguel Indurain. R.I.P. Pantani.
well...actually....he was much better than Indurain. Greatest climber ever
Much more exciting in the good old EPO days. Not the same attacks anymore
Well, I would argue that Eddy Merckx's attack at Mourenx was more spectacular. He made 8 minutes in that stage.
@@jamesmeisel4723Pantani put 9 minutes into Ullrich here as well
The Best Tour de France stage ever!
The time he'd be behind at the start of the big climbs (most years too) but he'd get that time back and put minutes now between him and the yellow jersey!! What a day and stage this was , as people have commented) Prob the best stage on a big climb espec
Pantani on the big chainring!!! The boss!!
It will never cease to irritate me that Pantani had to take the heat for doping. If he had never gotten that suspicious hematocrit reading, he could have easily competed with Armstrong for at least 3-5 years. He would have done the double in 1999 too, that Oropa performance was something else.
Contador was an aggressive and exciting rider but he wasn't as exciting as Marco. This day was the most incredible I have seen since I started following this sport closely in about 1992. A classic David vs Goliath battle with Jan. Kudos to Ullrich for his attack the following day but Marco stuck to his wheel like a limpet all but sealing the TdF win and the last Giro / Tour double. RIP.
I will never forget this day. I was only 12 but knew he would attack on galibier and kill ullrich to win the tour. nobody else believed it but pantani was of a different level as an athlete and human being _O_
I was 13 y. Old
That Day.
And I can Say I had the "opportunity" or Just a case , to see him, to meet him , both on Bike, he and me, Years later, autumn/Winter 2002, in Tuscany...
Last time I sow him (!)
He's the reason cause I did cycling and now That I don't still remember him as a hero, much more than marvel or an nba star. He's the real hero.
The best all the time ❤️
People always talk about drugs, there aren't magic drugs,drugs probably give 5% or less more stamina the other 95% is training and talent
So if the drug helped a contestant travel 100 kilometres in the time they would otherwise have traveled 95 isn't that a lot in a race? How about an extra 50m when your competition is breathing down your neck. Even 1% is an infinity in racing.
Marco hands down my favorite all time Tour winner and Alpe d'heuz king forever.....that I've seen .....to bad he was not surrounded by a better team and think he could have won another tour......and
Cycling was better when everyone was on drugs - FACT
hahaaa yeesss
not for the riders who slept with heart monitors or faced death.
And your evidence that "everyone was on drugs" is...?
They still drugging
hahahahahhahahhahahahhaa wake up mate......really
I spent the night on top of the mountain the night before, pissed rain and freezing cold but worth it.
Ulrich came by (about 4K from the summit) and looked dead, red bloodshot eyes, Riis pulling the entire time. Crazy stage, I’ll never forget it as long as I live. Hincapie was about 10 min ahead of the autobus, what a stud for such a big guy (he was bigger back then).
PANTANI the greatest bicycle climber of all time !
Marco Pantani was epic, he wanted to try and he succeded!
The easiest gear Pantani had on that bike was 44-23, what a monster he was. ( and there were all doped I know but I don't care)
That's not true. It was 42/23 or sometimes 39/23.
@@KadaverKurt I wasn't there to count the tooth, but there is a very detailed video on Pantanis bike for that year done by GCN, and that is the ratio they show. But at the end it doesn't matter he was a monster climber no matter what gears he had.
A lot of riders couldn't handle the cold rain conditions. It made the attack that much more effective.
marco and jose-maria rest in peace !!!
Yeah, The Pirate sure could climb like gravity was going out of style! Makes me want to get out and eat a mountain for breakfast....then gravity brings me back to reality!!! Well that's getting old(er) for ya!
When you have your breakfast, just make sure you also get your dose of EPO.
I remember as a child the interminable straight at Gap with poor Bitossi overtaken at the last meter by Marino Basso, Gimondi's feat in '73 over Merckx, Zoetmelk and Ocana, then Saronni's splendid close at Goodwood in '83 but this beats them all. It is a legendary victory with gaps from other times that forever delivers Marco Pantani to the Pantheon of the greats. Every adjective and superlative are absolutely justified for what I believe is the greatest and truly dazzling sporting achievement in cycling in the last at least 50 years. Honor, regret and an infinite thank you to the Pirate and an affectionate thought for mother Tonina.
Ricordo da bambino l'interminabile rettilineo di Gap con il povero Bitossi superato all'ultimo metro da Marino Basso, l'impresa di Gimondi nel 73 su Merckx, Zoetmelk e Ocana, poi la splendida rasoiata di Saronni a Goodwood nell' 83 ma questa le batte tutte. Si tratta di una vittoria leggendaria con distacchi di altri tempi che consegna per sempre al Panteon dei grandissimi Marco Pantani. Ogni aggettivo ogni superlativo sono assolutamente giustificati per quella che ritengo sia la impresa sportiva nel ciclismo piu' grande e realmente sfolgorante degli ultimi almeno 50 anni. Onore, rimpianto e un infinito grazie al Pirata e un pensiero affettuoso per mamma Tonina.
E bello rivedere, queste immagini, ora che Marco non ci sei più, sono passati anni, dopo la tua scomparsa, ma io, non ti ho dimenticato, e come potrei visto, che sei stato proprio, tu a farmi innamorare del ciclismo, non so, se da lassù, mi stai guardando, ma io, sono orgoglioso di te, di tutto quello che sei stato e che ancora resterai per anni e anni, non pensavo, che te ne potessi andare nel 2004, invece e accaduto, tu per me, sei ancora, tanto, e spero, che tutti quelli, che negli anni, si avviceneranno a questo soprt, possano seguire il tuo esempio, senza barare, ovvio. Il dioping? una etichetta, che ti hanno voluto, mettere addosso, senza mai trovare delle responsabilità che ti collegassero a te, ti hanno, ucciso lentamente, non serbo rancore, ma indifferenza sì, e non può essere altrimenti, dopo tutto quello che ti hanno fatto. Il 1998, e stato un anno importante per te, e per i colori italiani, spero, che tra 10 anni, ci sarà un'altro come te, ma per ora sei ancora Marco Pantani, grazie per avermi fatto vivere le tue gesta e il tuo trionfo, semplicemnte Pantani.
Luca Tomassi
Pantani was amazing to watch.
*Is* ,because RUclips exists.
May The Pirate rest in peace.
I well remember this stage... I was living in Boone NC and went on a big mountain ride that day (Beech among others) in very similar conditions. I watched the stage after my ride in front of the fireplace. I remember thinking, "this sure does not suck:" both my ride and Pantani's excellent stage win.
Love Phil Liggett, can't imagine a Tour without Phil commentating.
And Paul Sherwin a great pairing.
We won't ever hear Paul say "And he's wearing your favourite number Phil" again...
e chi se la scorda quella tappa, l'ho vista con un gruppo di turisti tedeschi che tra una pinta ed un'altra, ammettevano la superiorità del nostro Marco nazionale. Grazie Marco per sempre nei nostri cuori
oggi è il suo compleanno...e per commemorarlo oggi ho fatto incorniciare il giornale l'equipe con la famosa scritta"c'est un geant"...auguri panti!!!sei sempre e cmq il più forte!!dico sei e non eri perchè vivi ora e sempre in mezzo a noi!!!su tutte le strade d'Italia!!!al ciclismo di oggi manca una figura di riferimento come te!!!staccali tutti pirata!!!AUGURI MARCO!!!
😂 The play by play hosts, the monster attacks, the crazy crowds this as a magic time in history that will never be repeated again.
Marco Pantani nessuno sarà mai come te, sei stato un grande uomo e un grande campione. Non ti dimenticherò mai MarcoLuca
chi dice che pantani vinceva solo grazie al doping non capisce un cazzo: il doping non regala emozioni indimeticabili come queste
PANTANI VIVE
i remember watching this on tv back then =)
Me too!
Give cyclists their drugs back!
+Geert Matthys Tom Simpson was unavailable for comment.
Geert I know what you're saying. But cyclists are the victims of all this. I feel genuinely sorry for ALL of them, especially those who never doped, but also for those who felt pressured into it. I have no sympathy for those who didn't care and selfishly wanted to win at any cost.
ho visto il giro, il tour ed oggi la vuelta, nella speranza che quaLCUNO FACESSE IL VUOTO IN SALITA.....VIVO DI ILLUSIONE....PANTANI NON C'ERA.......MI MANCHI CAMPIONE.
its awesome when someone does something unheard of or unexpected...but its even better when someone pulls it off!
Thanks for the video Nestor ❤. Brings back beautifull memories of the one and only best climber of the world to have ever lived. Grazi Marco , r.i.p.
Why isn't it like this anymore...
COL S. Trautman Yeah I was thinking the same thing. :(
COL S. Trautman Two things:
1.Pre EPO test, so the abuse was widespread and unlimited, riders thought it was possible to go out on an audacious break and were confident it would stick.
2. No power metres. This is the big one, no one staring at a screen whilst climbing, crunching out the wattage and calculating a breaks success depending on the numbers being done. In my opinion the power metre has killed exciting racing.
Thomas W Yeah I was thinking the same but they still use EPO but you just don't see people attacking with 10km to go up a climb and no one being able to catch him like when lance fell.
COL S. Trautman EPO is clearly still used, but now there is the ABP, and the test for its presence means that the unlimited abuse is curtailed. No longer can someone see a 10-15% gain in their power like they could pre 2000. Turning domestiques into Tour winners a la Riis 96'. What you see now are 3-5% increases, which is still huge, when races are decided by a fraction of percentages, but if you spread out that advantage over a longer stage, the chances of staying out and winning are slimmer. What we see now are calculated attacks a few KMs from the summits, which is likely to stick, like Quintana or Nibali in the tour yesterday. We also have to remember Pantani was outrageously talented and completely fearless, no one is willing to descend like he could today, especially in bad weather like this stage. He was one of kind, who could make up the time in climbs that he lost in the TTs.
Thomas W I'm watching the tour right now. One question, can Chris Froome who is in the yellow win the gain KOM points or win the polka dot?
leggendario!
legend !
Most of us will never do the Tour De France let alone win a mountain, sprint, time trial.
So we must be satisfied with a victory here and there on our daily bike trail.
There is a Pantani in each of us.
I truly believe that.
johnberg181 Only those of us who cheat.
Lightnin Hopkins a Lot of cyclist Cheated a Lot more then pantani in the past...he was Just the best in the mountains
Amen
Pretty sure you mean there's a Pantani in every vial of EPO.
Pantani had gr8 Cadence considering the rear cluster they used way back in 1998
Viva Pantani! Pantani = rock'n roll!
I agree. I´m spanish and enjoyed Pantani much more than Indurain
Good to see the steel frames at work. SL,SLX,753,531,Oria. etc.
It would surely have been all nivacrom steel at that stage methunshow, wouldn't it? I can't remember but would it be Columbus genius and Reynolds 853 / 953?? I'm too lazy to go search but it was DAMN good stuff and contrary to what many people 'think' they know, these frames were much much closer to carbon than is known.
its aluminium 7005. Almost all drivers were on aluminium at this time.
Yes still good stuff I got a Pogliaghi Columbus SL with Campy Athena and Record. I ain’t getting rid of it! Even with the two carbons I got.
@@methunshow yes i have the CroMo version of this Pantani Bike. And i recently build a Basso Astra (Columbus EL) with newer Parts - Ultegra 6600 Group but still using Downtube Dura ace Shifters.
kohlrabenschwanz Funny Basso brothers hold the rights to Pogliaghi now I think.
I watched this live. Epic racing. Ullrich always had bad luck.
questo è ciclismo ... attacco a 45 km dal traguardo con ancora due montagne da scalare, che spettacolo! Quanto ci manca il Pirata in un ciclismo in cui i cosidetti "big" fanno lavorare la squadra 150-180 km, per poi tentare un allungo molle a i -500 metri ...
Plantain best climber I was 5 when he died so sad
Oh I love this video. Thank you so much for the series. This one of the best video we have on you tube.
You'd think somebody would design a cape that could quickly and easily be put on in bad weather
very smart pantani. wear the antirain jersey and in the time wait for the other cyclists after him
epic, that´s cycling
Epoic, you're right!
Ecco io adoro pantani e se trovo chi lo ha ucciso lo corco di mine
I am Italian and I know Pantani very well by listening to his interviews and those of his father and mother, I summarize his story in a nutshell. He was a boy who was looking for the most extreme climbs to test himself since he was 14/15 years old, he became a professional cyclist and he only met serious injuries up to 97, in 98 his first year without any unexpected has won lap and thunder then they unjustly stopped him at the turn of the 99 because the Neapolitan mafia had received a lot of clandestine betting on Pantani in that round, all attacked him and he who had a clear conscience could not react to the end and began to take cocaine, finally he was killed in 2004 probably because he wanted to denounce the injustices of the UCI and the fact that they knew that the cyclists were all doped. He too obviously took something at that time because everyone did it and you can not win against those who are doped if you are not even if you are the strongest, he wanted to change the system and this was done before the tour that not he had him participate in 2001, 2002 and 2003 and then definitively, he was a good person ...
are you saying the Mafia killed Pantani?
I swear every famous Italian person is involved with the Mafia. Or even foreign athletes who live in Italy.
PsicologodiLigabue - what do you have against punctuation?
@@bronxcheer1484 Sorry, I don't speak English well, I'm Italian
PsicologodiLigabue - keep at it, you will get there cobber!
Whoever dies becomes a hero. If Armstrong was dead, he would be the hero and Pantani would be called a junkie and stuff like that.
Bike Riding is Bake Riding How Much Prosaic and Valium, and more did Opera take to interview Lance ?? just think about that,, Bob Cary
There's a 'Translate' link after your comment. ... Could I have this translated in to English please?
@MeGaGliedda Non credo proprio che la Coca possa implementare le prestazioni di un atleta, d'altro canto a te fa svarionare per bene...
someone got a yellow rain cape souvenir @8:37
ahaha, I laughed reading this comment.
The best! ci manchi tanto
These consistent warm summer days of the last few tours where boring.
Ulrich was too heavy to keep up with Marco
no, he just took less dope
there's got to be at least 30 pounds or 15kg between the two, if not more
in fact ullrich was found doped...pantani never.
pantani was 56 kg and ullrich over 75....if some of the two was doping the most to keep up those speeds uphill wasn't definitely pantani
the truth is the media wrote every day he is too heavy, he has 10 kg overweight. Jan made a diet in front of the tour because of the pressure from the media and got a bonk on this stage. he lost the tour because he hit the wall.
Jan didn't like the cold weather
All enhanced performances,, get real for gods sake, cheats,
Non smetterò mai di rivedere questa tappa e ogni volta che la rivedo mi si raddrizza il pelo marco sei stato un grande continuo a maledire tutti coloro che ti hanno rovinato la vita
Lance never won like him.
Vola Pirata!
legend
Panpantani the best
while in 2018, sky train to the summit, no one dares to attack
LA LEGGENDA !!! IL PIU' GRANDE !!!
My favorite part of the 98 tour is when Pantani passes Ullrich on the Galibier and he's like, "What the fuck, i got the best stuff, what the hell did you take!?"
Big fan as a kid, but doping ruins the appeal of the sport to me. Those guys were juiced af and stuck to the drugs. Pantanis heart didn't make it and Ullrich is a mess.
Lo conosci Andy Schleck?
Despite the Festina scandal, Team Pantani dared to continue doping, Team Telekom no longer dared to do so, or was no longer able to do so to the full extent. That's all.
gareggiava con persone che baravano
"His preparation hasn't been quite right" haha. It's quite something to watch them ride up those mountains at superhuman speeds back in 1996-1198. It's a bit scary, actually.
They still dope today but they can't get anywhere close to the speeds and power outage they had back then.
Grande Marco!!!:) Fate un salto sul mio canale...Le Avventure in Graziella di Franco Cacciatori dedicate a Pantani!!:)
@boiadehlaciskia Vero. Anni strani per il ciclismo. Carrieri che sembravano avere anni di futuro son fermate, come quelle di Delion o Mejia. Campioni che non l'erano piu, come Lemond o Mottet. Ciclisti normali diventati grandi, come Chiapucci o Rominger.
@MeGaGliedda TRA L'ALTRO è STATO PROPRIO ARMSTRONG IL VINCITORE DI 7 TOUR A DIRE CHE PANTANI FOSSE IL PIU FORTE SCALATORE DI SEMPRE E ANCHE CHARLY GAUL VINCITORE DI 2GIRI E 1 TOUR CONSIDERATO ANCHE LUI UNO DEI MIGLIORI SCALATORI DELLA STORIA AFFERMO CHE PANTANI FOSSE PIU FORTE DI LUI.
Meglio un tour da Pantani che 7 da Armstrong...l'essere più dopato e più antisportivo degli ultimi anni su due ruote.
@MeGaGliedda si armstrong è stato senz'altro un corridore piu completo ma il miglior pantani quello del giro 99 poteva quanto meno batterlo in salita poi magari avrebbe perso il tour a cronometro. al tour del 2000 arrivo dopo un anno di inattività quindi è normale che sia stato discontinuo.
@MeGaGliedda io non dico che pantani non abbia mai fatto uso di EPO pero non si puo negare che sia stato uno scalatore eccezzionale e se non il piu forte uno dei migliori nella storia in salita gli si possono accostare solo tre nomi gaul bartali e bohamontes che sono comunque corridori anni 40-60 ed è difficile fare un confronto quello che non si puo negare e che sia stato certamente il migliore grimpier del ciclismo moderno
what ur mentioning drugs in cyclist without that u can become good cyclist as far u dont abusing ur sports
Se lui è il piu' forte scalatore di sempre io sono il 2°, ma smettetela Pantani andava forte grazie alla Coca e basta.
Quante cose stronze scrive la gente su Pantani! Il libbro di Randell presenta argomenti forti che Pantani prendiva L'Epo.
@italians1919 Sì, bravo... perché loro sapevano che fosse dopato? Gaul finì molto presto di correre, Armstrong lo disse per recuperare punti in immagine.
IO NON C'è L'HO NE CON I FRANCESI NE CON IL TOUR E NON INSULTO LA VOSTRA GRANDE TRADIZIONE CICLISTICA TU NON INSULTARE LA NOSTRA.
R.l.P Paul Sherwin
Handsoff - ??
........un ricordo che sa di eternità, sembra ieri talmente è impresso nella mia mente di ragazzina di allora. G
1 vero peccato....quel giorno è stato fantastico!!!!Mi sembra ieri..1 impresa che solo lui poteva compiere!!!
And Contador...
@preziosino85 scusa se mi permetto ma la lettera B è femminile quindi si dice "una b"
The best Jan Ullrich tribute whithout any doubt @
As a big Jan Ullrich supporter these pictures really ache. But Pantani is missing yet.
An aluminum bike won that year. :)
@boiadehlaciskia Già, non era pulito...ma nè più nè meno di tutti gli altri.