iBUYPOWER vs. Walmart System Build Review
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2019
- We review an iBUYPOWER RDY system, looking at build quality, ability to configure BIOS properly, thermal, and gaming performance.
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Comparing the iBUYPOWER pre-built "RDY" system to the Walmart build of the same price, iBUYPOWER does walk away looking good. Once you look beyond the parts listings and into configuration, though, the company makes several mistakes that it hopes to soon correct for future orders.
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Did you see my response to your comment in the last News video? That would be important to me.
Steve, I have worked in a similar PC assembling companies and understand how they work. Most of the staff only have basic understanding on how to assemble and follow instructors teaching who would have been like them before. The QC has to check all assembling and settings which is why some of the problems have occur. Because of the pressure to complete a certain amount of systems a day assemblers and QC can easily overlook or forget to do things. The thing you should tell the SI is to have paper work instructions that they must tick and sign for the work that they have done and anyone who have basic knowledge of assembling PC must be further train before building complex systems.
I'd love for one of you folks to check Consumer Warranty with companies. I had the worse experience with AMD this past December. A person that only communicated when someone on the East Coast of North America was asleep. So I'd wake up to an email I'd fulfill that request send a reply wait till the next day do the next thing and then get the next reply. So it took 3 days to do what would have taken 3 hours had they been operating during normal business hours. Then I had to send it to them. From Canada to the US. Which meant it got held at Customs. When It arrived they misplaced it. I only found this out because I got a reminder that my Claim was about to expire. They then went looking for it after I freaked (a week after it was delivered). Once they found it the group in the US tested confirmed it was dead and replaced the Chip. Sent it off. I asked repeatedly for the tracking number. They said no it hadn't shipped they would send the tracking info once it does. 3 days passed and I got the chip in the mail. They never sent the tracking number. I found out that it actually shipped 8 hours before they said it hadn't shipped.
Once I got it in Early January I found out that both my board and chip had died (I think I know why) Sadly because it was early January I missed almost all the Sales to replace the board as the Board seemed to be out of warranty and I sure the hell wasn't going through that process again. I'm happy I was able to replace the chip but the process was insane. The Fact that AMD has no Phone Support and didn't think maybe putting a person in the Eastern Time Zone connected with someone that worked business hours some place in North America would be good I was dealing with Someone that worked business hours for between India and Germany. That is what pissed me off the most. Not being able to deal with things in a timely fashion.
I have to wonder how common that is. How many other companies have just piss poor customer support for warranty repair.
INTERESTING NZXT and I BUY POWER in the same building. WOW that is a love love deal going on with them IBUYPOWER can buy all there cases from NZXT simply hand truck it on over. or put on a some wood and jack it on over,. no need to use a Truck that got 18 wheels to toe a trailer full of tower cases
wast he i7-9700K have no hyper threading? I do not understand why that was taken out. and how it that going to effect hard core gaming when there is no HYPER THREADING. my old SAGER NOTEBOOK broke. to give you some idea how old that is its graphic card is GTX 880M I agree time for a upgrade.big time upgrade. Before the CES 2019 started I have been busy doing my research what to look for. something is not old and outdated and something made for the future. That is a tall order.909% of the 17.3" gaming notebook use out dated parts that I do not want to use and do not need to use. How do I fix the the problem that all the gaming notebook got a i7 CPU that runs at 2.2GHz or slower? my X99 motherboard got a i7 CPU offered me more service then that. What I done is FUCK everything about ASUS, HP and DELL that is a tone of fucking fat I cut out in one second..even II hate MSI PUBLIC RELATION I still look it up any way. 8 hours of research I found everything outdated. Also I know I am not going to get EQUALIZER for my audio. I know ACER done that 21X and $9000.00 its internal storage for the price is a joke. nothing is worse then a bad joke. a dead joke that make me yell out THAT IS SO FUNNY I FORGOT TO LAUGH!! there is 17.3" gaming notebook that ACER got. it was too expensive and outdated. then I gone to XOTICPC look at there SAGER 17.3" gaming notebook. they got great search engine there at XOTICPC pick a few start up x selection. every easy. why kind of notebook style and brand name SAGER and size and then what size. what CPU and what GPU very easy. and simple. then it goave me a long list to chose from. WOW that is a lot.however not as much as it was 6 years ago. I go over the list. "X" out anything too outdated and all the ones that are too expensive. look at medium and a bit lower price range. about the $2000.00 price range I did go over price a bit. one caught my eye after every thing I look at only one got my eye on. NP9175 What kind of a name is that? NP9175 dose not have a soul and dose not give the GAMING NAME PUNCH like DOMINATOR that sounds GAMING! NP9175 is the name oh boy ok lets see what under its bonnet. 17.3" mat screen 1080p G_SYNK Hmmmm sweet 144 FPS 70% NTSC I can upgrade to 4K NOOOOOO CPU i7-8700K WOW GREAT CHIP SET Z370????? REALLY? ALL RIGHT THAT IS COOL! GTX 1070 graphic card. SWEET! play with DIMS and remove internal storage. I got a RGB KEYBOARD. lets see the price on shipping. long winded information name addresss so on. it gave me the price for shipping $180.00 OK lets see I can do better look up two more dealers that got NP9175 GENTECHPC OHH what is with all these free upgrade for $0.01? IC DIAMOND check some fancy thrumal pads for GDDR5. 30 days dead pixel plan. CPU ram $10.00 for two sticks . remove internal storage devices CPU check. GTX 1070 check. then time to do the shipping cost. very buggy payment system. however I did get the price $80.00 for UPS 2nd day? WOW that is $100.00 sale cut off price. and about 100 times trying to pay. up. then its done I call him up start asking questions. all this is done one day before the CES 2019 started. working on payment and questions. he told me I am not getting GTX 1070 he cannot get it in. he blab out that sounded like GTX 2080. my mind turn in to the 3RD DEMENTION in DEAD DAA DAAA DAAAAAA DAAAAAA my brain is lost.. when I got in to bird brain OK. the auto emergency aux power click in and gone and use the super charger and turbo boost. my brain got its well needed power. GTX 2070 no RTX 2070? he goes like yes upgrade to RTX 2070 I going like WOW I HIT THE JACK POT OR SOMETHING? YES he hit me with a double whammy bad news 1)I have to wait 1/29/2019 for the launch and 2) wait a extra week for his delivery. talk about put on a holding pattern for landing for half a month for launch and another week for landing.. that is where I stay. a holding pattern for landing some times next month
Big thanks to Agent Janice
@@dongurudebro4579 check linus videos about pre build pcs
@@dongurudebro4579 facepalm
@@1asdf2jklasdf31 Thanks i am very bad at names, especially those which dosent matter. Thanks :)
@@dongurudebro4579 haha, same here. But this series was really entertaining.
@@lesslighter : Linus has the real Janice from Accouting in his staff. ;)
iBuyPower puts an RGB power supply in a case with a PSU shroud, genius
Time to mod in a custom acrylic PSU shroud. Hecc, I want a full acrylic case. Let the RGB shine!
Thermalfake PSUs are cheap.
I have an RGB-SSD mounted behind my motherboard and I just like knowing it's there ^-^
It's a NZXT case, I am sure it probably came from NZXT with it installed. Like he said, iBuyPower walks next door and gets their parts from NZXT (who knows, there might be a walk-up window between the two warehouses.
@@stoneprevious4294 Just call it "underglow" and you're good
The Verge had a great tutorial on PC building. I have no idea why they took that video down. Paid off by Walmart?
rotfl
I used the verge’s guide when I built my pc for some reason it won’t turn on idk why 🤔
Moon Presence I spent my rgb budget on all the thermal paste they told me I needed. I thought 2 gallons was excessive but apparently you need it to maximize spread and cooling or something
@@nintendu64 Did you screw with confidence?
TheEmperorHyperion I screwed with so much confidence I had to duct tape my mobo back together
I have noticed that in your videos, that you have a "slide timer" on the sides of each of the charts / graphics in your videos. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE this as a viewer and wish that more content creators would do this. This actually got me thinking about my own videos that I will be making in the future and love the idea of having an indicator to the viewer of how long a particular slide will be onscreen. Good work. Love the videos and competent and thorough explanation through each of the steps and LOVE the data that you capture.
So many people that don't really know any better and get screwed by Companies like Walmart. The reviews you and others are doing are worth GOLD
I was close to buying one of the piles of doody, being my first PC, after many people telling me "you can't build a PC by watching RUclips vids." Well I didn't listen, watched youtube and built my own!
@@marissaanderss6762 whoever told you that is braindead watching youtube videos is all you need
Kyzokuo MC they’re not “brain dead” lol they just don’t know. Just because you know doesn’t mean everyone else does and no you didn’t “fInD tHe GuY wHo GoT a PrEbUiLt”. I’ve built 2 for myself and 3 for others in the last few years.
@@devincoleman2870 if they dont know they shouldn't be the ones informing my mans that he cant build a computer
@@marissaanderss6762 Don’t listen to anybody. My bro in law literally built an in ground pool and a deck from watching RUclips. I mean clearly he knows construction work but still, he learned it on RUclips
You should sell Gamers Nexus wigs.
White Carnage sounds like an untapped market
I wish I had that hair. They should put him in Head n Shoulders commercials.
They might actually be in Jay's store...
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Call it a "Burke's Builder Bouffant", and be sure it's ESD-Safe.
... if they actually do it... I'd buy one.
Maybe a little hard on the comparison of Walmart to iBuyPower. The iBuyPower issues were easily fixable. The Walmart PC used vastly inferior components that there would be no easy fix for. The unfortunate part of the iBuyPower build is that a novice may never even know they are leaving performance on the table. The issues are an easy fix for a enthusiast but then those people probably build.
Maybe you need to do a "Things to do when you get a new system" Video. Even a first time builder might miss some of the bios setting you mentioned. And many people probably have never considered updating the bios itself.
Are you serious? Do you know how bad the Walmart motherboard is? Lets say you want to add anything via pci express like extra sound card, network card or extra super fast usb or thunderbort. Well you CAN'T cz there is no place left. That moment when you pay 2100$ and Walmart shows you how pathetic they think the customers are
Well true i have never updated a bios here cause we have power issues here and im scared af too do it xd
Im the exact person youre talking about. Just purchased a PC from ibuypower and i wouldnt know what im leaving on the table or even how to fix it.
Haven't found a decent video outlining what you mentioned. Considering buying a pc from ibuypower but these guys who know what they're talking about make it sound like these issues are a huge deal. Then theres other people who make it seem like it'll just drop your fps a bit.🤦♂️
@@CiriYT ruclips.net/video/RYYoCXh2gtw/видео.html i used this video to set up my pc i got from iBuyPower like 3 weeks ago and he talks about a lot of questions and concerns i had. everything on my pc was perfect though and im super happy with it
I've bought two PCs from iBP. The first one was a good build and had no issues. The second one had multiple issues.
First was the BIOS like in this video. I had even paid for overclocking but all they did was click the automatic overclock button.
Next was that they used my SSD as an ISRT drive and put Windows on my HDD.
The next problem was that they didn't seat the cooler properly on the CPU. At first I thought it had become unseated during shipping, but when I took it off to remount it there was only thermal paste on half of the CPU. Half of the CPU hadn't even made contact. That means they didn't even test the overclock they put on the CPU because if they had they would have realized something was wrong.
The final problem was the motherboard. I didn't notice this till years later, but they had put one of the RAM sticks in the wrong slot. I moved it to the proper slot and when I turned it on it went into an infinite boot loop. I switched the RAM stick back and it booted again with no problems. The board had a bad RAM slot. The fact they put the RAM in the wrong slot means they knew the board was defective and still sent it out to me. By the time I realized this it was too late to send it back.
Just had to RMA an IBC pc and it wouldnt boot to windows. absolute nightmare.
Yeah, no thanks -_-
Why get the second one
@@legofig33 Because the first one was good, but time passes and you want to either refresh or upgrade your rig. My current rig still does fine, still replacing it because it's 3 years old.
my PC is an IBuyPower one... it had significant heat issues. After a lot of investigation, figured out they had installed both of the water cooler fans facing the water cooler radiator, so there was no air flow across it, they were literally blowing against each other. Took me forever to figure out to, cause it's not something you'd normally check, you just expect it to be done right, lol.
Excellent content is usual. I really really appreciate your ability to not be biased and be fair. Keep it up guys
Did you get your refund of the walmart PC or the correct one yet?
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@@j-k-o ? ja das ist korrekt und jetzt? :)
Nichts, kenne dich wegen HardwareRat. :D
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Yes, he got it in the form of a tax write off.
Funny enough I just purchased the ibuypower PC you're talking about last night. Now I know what to tweak.
Your channel is growing, mofrackie. Keep up the solid content!!!!!
As the owner of a new System Integration company, this is interesting and a great deal of information in where NOT to ever cut corners or throw asinine stats on a webpage to cash in on the lack of PC knowledge of customers.
Excellent work, GN & LMG!
Wonder how it's going these days
@@rogehmarbi his company shut down do to the pandemic
@U1TR4F0RCE that's so rough, I hope he's doing ok otherwise
@Gamers Nexus i started watching you when you had 25k subs i am so glad to see that you guys have grown this much , awesome job keep it up your reviews are top notch
Hey Steve, I am not sure if you've mentioned it or not. Did Walmart ever send you the correct configuration for the PC that you ordered after you contacted them about recieving the incorrect order?
i doubt it as he stripped down the "incorrectly sent" one, thus invalidating the warranty. maybe a refund of the 700$ difference.
@@FlashTheEagle thats illegal. if an order is not made corrcectly on the part of the supplier then the customer is able to refund the order and recieve his/her money back.
@@talgold1284usa lmao
@@FlashTheEagle better than 3rd world countries lmao, theyre still trying to figure out the internet ;P
tal gold I don’t think he was laughing at the law....
Great content! I love the continuation of other tech tuber’s content. Testing should be able to be reproduced in other settings, which is good science. I always wait for everyone to weigh in before making any purchase, but GN is probably the most important one to me along with HUB.
When I had a local shop assemble the parts they picked together with me for the system assembly only cost 50€. In hindsight I am very shocked how cheap that was. I have since redone cable management and replaced some parts but the build was cable management and generally build really well.
I think they might have had a little bit inflated prices on hardware and still have but their service warranted that.
I don’t know what changed, but I’ve grown to love you as a tech man in a tech man love way.
New to the channel. Really liking your videos. Thank you
Gamers nexus & Linus media group are the reason's I won't buy a pre built computer. The reasoning is because it shouldn't take two major youtubers for companies to make changes for the better. These pre builds are supposed to be done by AKA professionals. It's the same reason some brings me their car to be worked on. They want a professional to do the work and expect their car to be in original factory working condition when they get it back( assuming they do the repairs after the diagnosis.) And my standard it anything less then better then original factory condition is unacceptable for me. NOTE: Original factory condition in the automotive repair world is anything on the vehicle a mechanic or technician works on. Example would be if you replace the engine then the engine needs to be as if it came off the assembly line and run as the engineer intended it too.
my cyberpowerpc is amazing good everything I ask for was done I can build a pc but at this point in my life I could care less so going with a cyberpower this time was good for me.
Actually, Linus did review Asus OEM prebuild. ruclips.net/video/Clrj_lSDvzQ/видео.html That was OK. The issue is mostly I see prebuild issues are from this kind of 'gaming' companies not doing like Asus, Acer, or HP quality assurance, from hardware to software (BIOS related).
I would still buy a prebuild for a not so tech savvy family/friend.
It's almost like... companies won't make changes unless someone forces them to. That can't be right? cant it?! *laughs in sarcasm*
I used to work at a computer parts company which did assembly of parts into a full computer for like 40 euros or something per build. I was 15 at the time and assembling about 8 PCs a day for 3,50 euro/hour. For every system I had to check if the parts would fit, then build it and try to cable manage (poorly) with not much time budgeted for cable management. After that I had to test the system for issues with stuff like Memtest86. After that another inspection, cleaning the computer of fingerprints and packing it for shipping.
I can tell you, I did not give a single fuck about your system. Due to the immense time pressure and performance targets I had I had to do an acceptable job at a fast pace. Most customers wouldn't look on the inside anyway. I didn't even have to install Windows or do any other shit luckily. I lost count how many times a fucking Scythe Mugen cut my hands because it was such a cheap POS and all customers chose it because it was cheap. This type of work sucks at the wages these "professionals" work at. Don't expect too much from them.
Gawdamit lmfao ikr it's actually really idiot-proof
I'm like 14 and I just built my new pc
You got a like Because you credited someone else’s hard work good job man!
I used the information in this video and others to settle on a custom ibuypower build. I can say the ordering process was good with a good web site and ample part choices. A chat with a rep went very well. I'm waiting on delivery now. Thanks for the valuable information your channel provides. I know I could part source it and build it myself but I'd rather let someone else handle that and don't mind paying a fair price for the service.
Another great informative video. Thank you for your hard work.
It's nice to know that Linus's series and the work of other tech RUclipsrs can result in changes to benefit consumers.
I notice that they didn't orient the fans in the same way. That may not seem like a big deal, but with those rebranded Thermaltake Riing Trio fans, you can't change the lighting order in the software. So if you wanted to use a pre-made profile, they would be off by 90 degrees, which would annoy the crap out of me.
I noticed that as well. I have the Corsair LL120's and even though you can change each individual led, I couldn't stand not having the logos upright. If you're going to have a nice looking system, you should take time to perfect the minor details IMO.
Phone interviews where audio and mic quality is critical, good one Steve ;)
as long as it Functions and Runs they will sell it! It's People like you that Actually have Changes made in Prebuilts! Kudos Bro!
"No horses were used in this build" brutal, just like Novak Djokovic today.
So the lesson today is.....build your own pc. If you don't know how, learn. I built my own PC for the first time last year with the help of GN and other great RUclips channels. Save money. Learn how everything works. So when there is a problem, you can fix it yourself. Never depend on another person. I was not surprised by Linus/GN evaluation of the pre-built SI systems.
Building isn't for everyone though.
and It's a stupidly simple process.
These companies exist for a reason. Not everyone wants/cares about building their own system. These prebuilts are a great way for new pc gamers to get started if they choose.
Not for all people tho, just the peace of mind of warranty from a single source is enough for many people (well atleast me). Getting good support is a good deal for some. Went with an EVGA card for my upgrade for the same reason, better customer support though there were better performing GPUs for lower prices out there (MSI for example can last longer and had non trivial performance advantage).
my cyberpowerpc works amazing never had a issue
Glad you guys are bringing the SI market out more and calling them out on their issues.
I like that both your video and LMG's are not trying to throw out prebuilt PC's but show which ones right now are good and help others get better, it's been really positive when it could (and has been other places) been very negative, for some people prebuilt is the only option so working to make sure those people get what they pay for is great.
512K subscribers, something about that number is mildly satisfying.
its double 256K, if you know that the number just looks smoother, even numbers in general look mildly satisfying.
They won't touch the BIOS unless you pay extra for overclocking, and even then they do the bare minimum.
Thanks for the review and points on the ibuy power pre-builts.
Speaking of selling things. When are y'all gonna come out with RipJay merch???
Good job. It is nice to see your content, when it involves policing manufacturers, who are willing to cut corners, to increase the margins. Way to keep them in check!
3:10
That took a minute to actually hit me
I hate the current preferred business model for quality control. HATE. What is the current preferred business model for quality control? To do ZERO quality control, but give every customer a survey about their product or service. You probably read that and thought "no way man." But think about all the surveys you get from everything. They do that because they fired all the actual quality control people. Some upper management person justified their 6 digit salary by cutting all those quality control people from the payroll, while spinning it publicly as an added customer perk. This business model *does not work*. Get real quality control people, or better yet get random 3rd party inspections by somebody outside of the company that has absolutely no incentive to ignore possible costly issues (see Florida pedestrian bridge failure).
QA made by machines. They want you, the customer, to not care about receiving a bad product and just mindlessly keep consuming, to be a machine.
My dad went to this (apparently renowned) "Quality College" in Florida back in the 70's.
Is that still a thing?
Thank you Steve, great video as always! On this iBP build I just can’t stand the fact the “si” could not even install the two front fans the same way or restrain or re clock the cpu cooler so it’s not clearly pushing on the gpu.
Awesome review, Steve... shared in my Computer Solutions FB Group
So Linus pulled a Steve and this is the Steve post that? cheers
As soon as I saw those red gpu cables, I was like "yeah that's a Thermaltake power supply".
Are Thermaltake PSUs so bad or?
@@Ipo024 aesthetic quality can be lacking on their affordable models and even some higher tier.
They do have a higher return of bad reviews than other brands. Have to remember they aren't actually building them themselves but having a 3rd party make it. Using a 3rd party design or an in house one that they'll have designed themselves. Top actual makersthat come off the top are FSP and Seasonic. There is some others.
@@DurzoBlunts thanks for the answer! Will be looking into psus more in the future when I build a new pc.
First PC I ever bought was a Micron PC and it was great. 3 year warranty. Had a software issue and called them for help, they said would send me a disk for $75 to fix it... (Mid 90's) I told them thanks but no thanks. I reinstalled windows and fixed it myself. The next 2 PC I bought from Cyberpower. Both were great and no issues. Then I got into PCs more and found YT Newegg channel. Well have been building my own PCs from then on out. It is nice to look at my tower and know I selected every single part and I put it together myself. Good video Steve.
Love how this Tech review community is so UNITED!!!
The Verge "Why didnt you use all the CPU bracket screws?
🙂 Can you guys do the samething for Microcenter Powerspec inhouse builds, maybe they have some errors too and you could help them to help their customers better, thanks 😍
great videos keep them coming :]
I too had an outdated BIOS on my iBuypower machine, with the Asus z390-P MB. However, I never looked into the XMP settings and what a difference. Mine was all default, getting 2300 on 3200 RAM and such. All good now. Thanks!
Considering the amount of PC they have an probably need to check, they probably just make sure that it loads to Home then send it on it's on way.
THE BIOS JUST WORKS!
Now in 2020, Just bought an ibuypower rdy system in July. Can confirm they shipped it in default settings at 2666 MHz and no XMP profile. Great PC tho all things considering Thanks for the Video Gamers Nexus! Helped me figure it out and now I got what I paid for.
thanks this really helped :) I appreciate
I worked for Walmart for almost 5 years, the entire company is incompetent lol. Good vid as usual Steve
How many stores did you work in?
I've seen some equally great stores as bad ones, but at least the corporate side seemed fine when they weren't out of their element. (compared to others)
@@SuperPhunThyme9 I once saw a woman get beat down by a random man in front of her kid at a Walmart... it was... yeah... still haunts me
When you come back a year later and realize all the parts in this build are still current gen.
My ibuypower rig from 2016 has been flawless.
I wish you guys could do more of these build checks, it's enteraining and a much needed reality check for these companies . Well done great job!
GN does the best science based reviews. Linus does the best comedy
The Poltical One Linus is good entertainment content, GN is good educational content. There’s occasionally overlap
both are very accurate
Aged like wine 😂
Should have listened. Bought a TOP of the line Ibuypower. Turn it one... pink artifacts all over the place. Update the nvidia driver. Reboot computer. Won't reboot. Won't repair. Won't enter safe mode. Call to IBP. 2 hour wait even though just 4 people ahead of me. Told to reinstall windows. Then told it was the graphics card so RMA with deposit for new card shipped. After reinstall of windows went to load the motherboard driver. Crash. Blue screen. Windows repair fail. Back to square one. Call and have them cancel the RMA for the new card. Waiting on Return packing slip to get full refund.... I should have listened. Looked nice on the inside. Nice cable management. Very clean. Nothing loose. What a mess. I know you won't see it. Just needed to vent. :D
Bought one from them a few months ago and had no issues at all. Cable management is my only complaint. Make sure u pick out ur parts don't get their prebuild setups
More of these please
I still have DDR2
Using ddr3 in my q6600 let me OC way more :D
Ayu Natsume What overclock you got that thing at?
I have DDR Max 2.
Why are you watching this channel? Lol. :P
j/k I still have ddr2 in my old PC/current NAS.
Are we related?
IBuyPower: Idontbuy BIOS
Whats bios
Anybody on a modern platform doesn’t have a mobo bios anymore, it’s UEFI now
The Manufacture call it still Bios, and so everyone and thats right.. god@@nikoyochum6974
Adrian XenoRay they call it that because consumers don’t know any better
You mean UEFI, right?
FINALLY, a video i can understand... lol. i try to understand a lot of your videos but but usually i feel dumb lol
The cool thing about I buy power is I had a pc built and I was able to go and pick each component and make sure I had every single thing I wanted, it’s essentially building your own pc and paying someone to put it together and set it up for you
I just got a system built by NZXT BLD. They did an excellent job.
I wish they had included them in the LTT series.
maybe the builder for this system are from or it is even ibuypower too.. if they so close or even toegether in one building..
@@Xenoray1 Nah they have their own, jayztwocents made a video about it
Much better than Walmart's PC. But building your own is still probably for the best.
KAELANIME thx for the quick answer, I didn’t have the time to watch a 20 min vid
@Gamers Nexus the one thing I really wish you would do in these videos is slow down a little. You speed through this stuff like you're about to run out of time or have to go defuse a bomb. You can take a little bit more time with parts like when you're comparing test results or specs.
They have a great customer support guy on Reddit that once stated outright when they get busy the builders screw up a lot.
*DIGITAL STORM JOINED THE CHAT*
Am i the only person that doesnt get RGB for PCs.
RGB is extremely overrated, looks like unicorn crap and hurts my eyes too. :(
You can use just one colour of your choice. Dont have to make it rainbow colour.
I like configuring different colors to match the setup of my mouse and keyboard. It just makes for a nice aesthetic especially when its dark
I have basic blue LEDs in my case just so I can verify at a glance that all my fans are spinning and the mice haven't moved back in, but that rainbow connection crap is just tacky.
@@craZivn mice?? The fuck?? Get a better case like the cooler master MB511
This explains why my new NZXT case's fans sound exactly like my iBUYPOWER refurbished PC's fans I got for my birthday at like 14.
God damn, just thought they happened to pick those.
I got my system from them a year ago and it came with xmp on. I didnt really have any problems with it and since then ive upgraded the nzxt fans that came with it and upgraded the ram from 8gb to 24gb and it hasnt really done anything wrong that i can notice. It was at the time of the mining craze and i got an 8700k and a 1060 with all name brand components for $800 and there are few esports teams with promo codes that can give you a discount if you spend over 1000 bucks. I guess i got lucky but all in all it was much easier than getting all the parts and managing shipping and building it myself. Hopefully in the future this becomes a more efficient process that can get rid of the random little details that are overlooked.
Wait why is windows 10 basically free?
to system integrators -- volume oem discounts
You can run Windows 10 without activation for an unlimited period, the only drawback is you can't customize your desktop background and you get a watermark saying Windows isn't activated but it is otherwise fully functional.
Gareth Gobulcoque this is true. No windows programs either such as word, excel, PowerPoint, etc... but you can change your background but the customization is not fully enabled. And the watermark pops up after an hour or two, I also find once you do some optimization it's very fast with very little programs running in the background.
You can buy keys from system builders on ebay for like 2 or 3 dollars. I just bought one for my laptop and worked perfectly.
Todd Simone there is some risk associated with buying keys on some sites, you can get ripped off for one. I've also seen people have a full version of windows and have it revoked later on for whatever reason. So basically just be careful if your going this route.
The people assembling these systems are probably overworked, and underpaid. Why would you expect these people to actually care about what they are doing, and do anything except the bare minimum they have to. They just throw it together as instructed and that's it. They are not going to worry about mce and xmp!
Did you seriously just ask why paying customers should expect a quality product for their money?! Get out of here. It is not the consumer's problem if employees are underpaid, the consumer only cares about value for their money, and it's clearly not being provided which means we shouldn't buy from this company.
And if you really care about employees "probably" being underpaid (sweet appeal to emotion, bro), you should also boycott this company. Go buy from a company that "probably" pays it's employees fair wages. Not that you have any way to actually find out how these companies are treating their employees in the first place.
Why should they care? Because it's their job. Issues shouldn't be passed onto the customer. Which is why the SI's have begun making revisions to their build processes so this doesn't happen again.
@@mjc0961 You're acting like he's not attacking iBuyPower for being a shitty company :/
They should be getting paid more than to give a shit, the company is making enough profit per system to allow for that.
Edit: then again, none of the others did that stuff either so... Yeah.
So if you bought a brand new Aston Martin and the factory didn't bother tuning it, that would be acceptable to you?
Had a similar experience with I buy power in 2013/2014, had a “free” upgrade to 2400mhz ram and they straight up just didn’t turn xmp on. Called them and the guy on the phone word for word said “the techs always forget to turn xmp on in the bios hit delete on boot and turn it on”. And that was 5-6 years ago.
There's language barrier issues on the line; I can tell just by that. You can show someone some steps, but relating comprehension to a low-ish wage 30y/o+ worker in another language is a feat...
...So, say a different mobo comes along, the knowledge won't transfer.
(last manufacturing plant I worked in had *8 different languages* spoken among only 27 employees, and this was our biggest issue....next to this one snake in the grass, but thats typical lol). ...and I mean 8 languages which were the only language spoken, ie no English. It was insane!
A few years ago I bought a new prebuilt computer that should have had a 1tb HD and a 500-watt PSU, what I got was a 2tb HD and a 750 watt PSU. The hard drive and PSU were the same make and series as listed in the specs just larger and more powerful. I was pleased but curious about this free and unexpected upgrade so I emailed the manufacturer asking about it. they told me that their supplier was unable to deliver the 1tb HD in time and the contract had a penalty clause making it cheaper to send the larger HD than to be late. The reason for the PSU upgrade was simply that they ran out of 500-watt PSUs so they substituted 750s on a few units to keep assembly on schedule. So a few hundred people got a free HD upgrade and 12 got both a PSU and an HD upgrade. I thought that this was pretty lucky but not nearly as much as getting what sounded like a straight answer from a large company.
Usually it would be considered unfathomable that someone would be able to give you such details
Amazing indeed
Can I rip the ibuypower logo off and stick it to my csgo skin XD
Lmaoooo
NO XMP enabled!? Underclocking the CPU? Really...!? Speechless...
Kids that`s why you should build your own PC! :)
Also I am glad that you (dis)covered that so it hopefully wont happen again, but it still makes me sad that such mistakes happen in the first place and that changes seemingly only occur after a big outcry or if someone prominent covered it
Whats xmp
dozer games extreme memory profile. It’s an intel schema that allows DRAM to have onboard profiles that allow it to run at above JEDEC spec out of the box.
I enabled XMP on my system and my RAM benchmarked slower so then I disabled it again. CPUs are on demand frequency today so what they're clocked at doesn't matter. It is going to change anyways.
Paul Frederick your last two sentences make no sense. RAM frequency and CPU frequency are not inherently tied outside of system BCLK (which is generally 100 MHz these days)
@@nikoyochum6974 what does being tied have to do with the price of tea in China? There's a reason CPU speed is given as base and turbo today.
Thanks to you and Linus for making videos digging into ready-made systems. I wish I had done more research before taking the plunge. I'm not very happy with my ibuypower PC, picked up just before Christmas of 2019 (almost a year after this video was posted). It's the Trace 2 Pro 112a, purchased from Newegg, and it arrived with many more issues than you ran into.
It has a 3700X and RX 5700 XT, but came with Nvidia drivers. I checked because stability was non-existent. After installing AMD drivers and removing Nvidia's, I am still having stability issues, including occasional boot cycling and black screens. Sometimes, it will not connect to the internet, though I'm not sure if that's a related issue.
Cooling is abysmal. They replaced the stock Wraith Prism with an $8 Deepcool unit that does not keep the CPU below 45c at idle and 90c during gaming, which may be related to the fact that it was sent with two case fans, instead of 3 that were advertised. The case itself has limited area for drawing in air, which may restrict cooling no matter how many fans are installed. The internal case temp must be really high, because the 5700 XT Mech OC is constantly going 3,000+ RPM to keep temps around 88c, as well.
I haven't dug into the BIOS or updated them because of my nervousness over screwing them up as a novice.
This is my first gaming PC, so I went prebuilt because I was nervous of screwing something up doing it myself. Also, Black Friday deals were killer. In retrospect, I should have spent a few hundred more and took the time to build it correctly.
I got a great PC from IBP. But it also helped I knew what parts to get and took time picking things out. Overall I'm absolutely loving it. Kinda wish I saved up for a 1080ti but the regular 1080 is still kicking butt.
NZXT = CEO Johnny Hou. iBUYPOWER = Owner Alex Hou. They're more than just neighbors.
Like with the right and left twix?
Wait... a build with a 9700K, a RTX 2080 and 3200MHz RAM, has only 149 FPS on 1080p normal settings? You serious?
JMPeRager is that normal or?
@@tactic5621 Sounds about right for Far Cry 5, it isn't very well optimized.
I was an iBuyPower customer. The summer of 2020 I spent north of $4k for a ASUS Prime A299-AII, maxed ram, 2080ti, a Corsair AIO, plus twin HDDs, in a Be Quiet Pure 600, etc... Two months later it arrived. The power supply failed on powerup, the two HDs were dead, the AIO died five months later - so I just replaced the entire set into a new case because the AIO was oriented vertically/lateral to the CPU (thanks for your video on that - THAT is what got me to purchase a new case). The result? I am a new DYI gamer (flight sim) and will be doing all DYI going forward. Frankly, it's much easier to do it yourself rather than spend a pile of money on questionable service. I'm an architect by training and have real issue with what some folks are putting out. Thanks for your videos (and useful guidance). I'll be purchasing one of your sweatshirts now.... =)
Thank you for the non-clickbait title.
How much cheaper could you get the same performance minus all that useless RBG?
Rgb isn't useless REEEEE
i got same thoughts...
but
while the companies already included this shit everywhere..
probably we wouldn't find any top component without rgb =(
so
we should hope some "straight" component lines to come for just an additional $10
(for exclusive non-rgb development and production)
or
once we will see fans, ram and sdds with a rubber dicks only.
because
Just built a system... and its RGB all over the place not because I sought after it, more just many of the parts I wanted simply had it. For my build it would have been more expensive to build a system with less or no RGB. TURN IT OFF IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, it does not freaking hurt you in any way.
@@IceLom yeah! that's what i said!
Just built a system... and its RubberDeacks all over the place..
..it does not freaking hurt you in any way.
Pulse01 - LOL, But you’d be better off downloading more RAM. 🤪
I cancelled my order when i saw this. Thank you.
Everytime I watch this guy, I can't help but wanna fall asleep
Glad I watched this, I literally just ordered this computer.
Guess I gotta update the bios out of the box 😭
Why not build your own pc? It's not that hard and way more fun and exciting. It's also cheaper.
I'm a long time system builder but I went with iBuyPower last year for my new PC and I have no major complaints. I couldn't afford for my PC to be down for any length of time while while I upgraded due to business obligations and being self employed. The only negative was that they front mounted my AIO radiator instead of putting it in the designated space on the top of the chassis. I fixed that myself in a few minutes though. I even had a 20% off coupon at the time so the premium I paid was rather small.
front mounted AIO radiator it's not a really mistake. depending on the situation can be better
@@Fiufia same, mine is front mounted in my new pc build but I have fans on each side of it bringing the air through it into the case
@@Fiufia In this situation the temps were much worse where they mounted it unfortunately. Still wasn't a big deal though.
@Charles-Antoine Cusson Like I said, self employed and very busy these days. Didn't have a lot of time to devote to building a system so I took a chance with ibuypower. Previously I'd been building my own rigs since 2002. My first build was an MSI K7N2 board with an Athlon 2800+
same here just did not have the time so I got a cyberpower pc also my wife did both run amazing with zero issue we got what we ask for hell my wife picked something that was out at that time cyberpower took the time to call her help her pick the next best thing also took money off on the pc now that is what I call a good company.
"ibuypower has addressed the issues' == someone got their ass fired. haha
My 9900ks, strix 2080ti, m.2, hero Maximus mb, 32gb Corsair 3200 ibuypower was perfectly setup. Some of the wiring in the back of the case could’ve been neater, but they had everything hooked up and configured correctly although xmp was not enabled. Plus It cost less than the shopping cart I had put together when I was going to build it myself, free 2 day shipping, and a one stop warranty. I’ve since torn it all apart and rebuilt it to perfection, but not because it needed it. I’ll get my next from them no question
I don't think there's any question, a follow-up video definitely needs to be done next quarter either by GN or LTT.
its walmart, not a literal computer company
the fact that ibuypower is even being compared to walmart systems shows how utterly trash their systems are
Yeah Yeah Oh
cullen3 yo heah heah
power is why it drops that far.. voltage/current limit in bios (stock settings) is limiting the cpu at the same voltage (likely 1.42v like mine was) so it had to drop that much to keep power below the given range (even tho the cpu is stable at lower voltages for any given freq it will use the "max" voltage from the clock "range" when running avx loads)
@13:37 you can see that both hub decals on the fans are wobbling...that would drive me completely insane...
If you buy a gaming computer from Walmart..this is what you deserve.. Biglots is where to get a real gamer at..lol
I don't get why you would want this sort of machine though. Either you have the need and interest for hardware and thus are capable of building your own PC or your needs are suitably fulfilled by an oem solution. You're just paying more for something you could do yourself better and for less.
There are a lot of valid reasons to buy from someone else. I can build my own bookshelf competently, but I'd rather pay someone else to do it so I can do other things in that afternoon instead. Similarly, I could build a relative a computer competently, but I don't want to be on the line for support. I'd refer them to a pre-built, then let that company deal with service calls.
@@GamersNexus You're right, I guess. I just have a really hard time getting into the mindset of someone NOT wanting to tinker with hardware.
Also these systems are at Best buy and Walmart
So some kid tells their parent they want that one with the cool lights and stuff and parent who knows nothing about it buys it for said kid's birthday or Christmas or something
Also there is the convenience of if say the power supply went and fried everything all you would have to do is call iBuyPower to get you warranty and all parts covered
I would rather build a PC myself but reasonably priced prebuilts definitely have their place especially when dealing with convenience of not having to worry about bricking components on install and not having to call multiple companies for warranty issues
@@Nesformers also I have been tempted for their snowblind case lmao
Don't forget about the tech enthusiast who are not physically able to build a computer for themselves thus have a system builder like myself or a company like IBUYPOWER build it for them. They too love tech, want to be involved and thus. Turn to this route. There is also the time and servicing factor Steve mentioned.
this is why i just saved myself the trouble and had nzxt bld do my new rig. off the shelf parts that I hand picked everything at msrp. I got exactly what I asked for. Hell I could have just built it myself but didn't want to bother this time.
It was 15 years ago the I bought a DoA box from Ibuypower. It got me to build my own from then on out. They leaded people to enlightenment.