Are They Junk? Dewalt Battery Chainsaws. Buyers Guide. Dewalt 60V 14" Top Handle Chainsaw

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @Bearbait01
    @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад +1

    Do you have any of these saws? What do you think about them?
    Check out the video of cutting down this tree with the 60v 20" saw with the junk knock off chain from Odddupoplouppolu from Amazon.
    ruclips.net/video/maEatckUFCo/видео.html
    EDIT: Oppoduooppoluluo (opuladuo) sent me 2 chains for the 60v 20" after I contacted customer service which were also incorrect, I explained to them exactly what they needed for chain specs and today they sent me 2 more which are correct. So if you're looking for cheap replacement chains, opuloloolpuoulodou is probably not as bad as they were before. Easy to find at least, easier to find on amazon than an actual replacement chain from Dewalt.

    • @canuck7268
      @canuck7268 9 месяцев назад

      Dude I really appreciate these videos. I've been looking for someone to give some info on the dewalt top handle. I want something to hang off the side of my chipper that I can use with 1 hand to cut bigger limbs down before they go in the chipper. It doesn't shut off automatically, does it? I wanna just be able to grab it and cut. I already have the 20v. It's fine for my kids to learn with but I wouldn't use it all day. BTW, those 572s do alot better when you don't dog them in. The power brand on them is in the top end and pretty narrow. I'm hoping they come out with a 572mk2 with a wider power band like they did with the 562.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад +2

      @canuck7268 the top handle does shut off after a minute or so but the button to turn it back on is right there where your thumb is so it's not a big deal. I'd say get one. Definitely my favorite saw.

    • @patterdalezipsuzilil
      @patterdalezipsuzilil 7 месяцев назад

      Dewalt DCMCS575N XR 54V FlexVolt Cordless Chainsaw 50cmlove it I have 2 15ah batteries love it and it's 0.050 guage I use mine outside all the time ur talking cr........ stick with your gas

    • @patterdalezipsuzilil
      @patterdalezipsuzilil 7 месяцев назад

      I think your 60v version is a 0.043 50cm I do know my uk version 54v is 0.050 the chains are easy in uk DeWalt DT20690-QZ and it is actually a oragon chain 68 links 3/8th lp 0.050 semi chisel 91px068x oragon 50cm hope this helps uk owners

    • @patterdalezipsuzilil
      @patterdalezipsuzilil 7 месяцев назад

      Mine oils fine you need synthetic oil as per manual

  • @doug667
    @doug667 9 месяцев назад +22

    Good video. Yes, the 54v and 60v batteries are identical internally, just marketing differences. 15 cells in series at 4.0v resting voltage = 60v. 15 at 3.6v under load = 54 volts. Same with 18v vs 20v tools.

    • @justinfufun5483
      @justinfufun5483 6 месяцев назад +1

      You said that so much better than I did.

    • @flanagon360
      @flanagon360 2 месяца назад

      Are you saying the 60v tool's still run at 18v

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 24 дня назад

      Right, they started using 20v in part to avoid confusion with the old 18v NiCad system.

  • @rockerchefdave
    @rockerchefdave 3 месяца назад +3

    I was about to go and buy the 60 . Your video has made me rethink my decision. I won’t be taking down any big trees, just breaking up smaller stuff like branches that fall during storms. I think the little one will be much better suited to my needs.

    • @flanagon360
      @flanagon360 2 месяца назад +1

      Me to, so easy to get suckered into bigger is better, we need to match power to bar to make it a great tool

  • @erikruhl446
    @erikruhl446 6 месяцев назад +5

    I bought the 60v 16in and put an 18in Oregon bar on itkme 4 yrs ago. Ive never had an issue with it ever. They're electric, so they dont have the duty cycle a gas saw has. But for avg joes and weekend warriors who need a chain saw every once in a while, theyre fantastic. If i was a professional arborist i would have gas saws tho.

  • @johnhabeck6153
    @johnhabeck6153 9 месяцев назад +7

    I have the 12" , love it. 8" pruning saw is really handy. Also got the 8" 20v polesaw - works great too.

    • @Thebankfisher
      @Thebankfisher 8 месяцев назад

      The little 8" pruning saw works well. That's where these electric saws need to stay, light weight and handy not power for bucking fire wood.

  • @blute3085
    @blute3085 9 месяцев назад +4

    I have the 16" Dewalt 60V saw and it does a good job. I use it to clear trails and cut wood for our campfires and I've never had it overheat a battery. I think Dewalt tried to up the battery draw too far in order to get it to push the 20" bar and that is causing the overheat issues. Personally, I think if you are doing a cutting job that needs a bar larger than 16", you probably need to be using a real gas powered logging saw.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад +4

      I agree. I wanted to make sure in my review to show the saw overheating because many other reviewers only show the good and never show the downsides.

  • @coleparkhurst8962
    @coleparkhurst8962 9 месяцев назад +3

    Iv got the 12" and the 20" and this is my experience as well, love the 12. The 20 over heats the batteries 6 cuts in every time

  • @ToolHombre
    @ToolHombre 9 месяцев назад +3

    I was between the 500mm and the Greenworks 60V 20" saw. Went with the GW. I have a video up of me going through some 30" wide dry maple and I can't stall it or overheat it. They have very big air channels in the battery compartment. Captive nuts too.

  • @francoisg3009
    @francoisg3009 9 месяцев назад +6

    The way you used the 60v chainsaw.. you should really use it with the 15Ah/5Ah bigger battery as it add more power to it and run cooler

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад +2

      I've actually heard that the bigger 15ah battery overheats faster than the smaller ah batteries. I have a 12ah battery that came with the saw, it overheats just as fast if not faster than the 9ah in this video did. I was actually surprised with how well it was cutting with the 9ah, I've had it overheat on me on 1 cut in a big log using the 12ah battery.
      You could be right, from my experience it doesn't make a significant difference because the saw just isn't designed (properly) for cutting large logs.

    • @taki0ps230
      @taki0ps230 6 месяцев назад

      @@caseygina3553 9ah one uses 21700, 9,12,8,6 and i believe 4 maybe, 15ah uses 18650

    • @MrBigbird007
      @MrBigbird007 4 месяца назад

      @@Bearbait01 Like a few others have said, the 15A is the battery built literally for this saw. It's night and day. And strange as it sounds the 9ah is actually better paired up vs the 12ah... still too small

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  4 месяца назад

      @MrBigbird007 Still can't be a good saw I'm my book because the oiler is absolute junk.

    • @JoseGonzales-ul9sv
      @JoseGonzales-ul9sv Месяц назад

      ​@@Bearbait01 such a hater i wonder why

  • @Thebankfisher
    @Thebankfisher 8 месяцев назад +1

    I had the same problem with the oiler on the little 8" pruning saw. The oilers just don't work like a conventional gas saw it's either nothing or gushing oil everywhere.

  • @e303gt
    @e303gt 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have the dewalt 16" 60v saw and love it. The shorter bar makes sure I'm not gonna do anything stupid with it and I don't have to deal with bad gas I left in a gas chainsaw. I'm not a professional though.

  • @Azure1Zero4
    @Azure1Zero4 9 месяцев назад +2

    I thought these saws were junk at first. They Excel at the times you only need a few cuts. They also start and stop nearly instantly. One thing missed by many is how quiet they are. I got one to keep in my wood room for those pieces i just cut too long or numbs. I can cut at 4am and not piss off the neighborhood. If you use them for light work they are a good companion to have around. Every job doesn't require a logging saw. When it's time to pull wood out of the woods gas is still king. Just my observation. Just like cars there are advantages and disadvantages to both systems. Use the right tool for the right job.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад

      That's a good take. Definitely really good for indoor work. They just need to get the battery overheating sorted out. 10 more years and they'll probably be better than gas 🤣
      I really like the 2 smaller saws because they are inherently geared towards smaller, more manageable tasks for a battery saw.

    • @Azure1Zero4
      @Azure1Zero4 9 месяцев назад

      @@Bearbait01 I got a Ridgid electric chainsaw. When it comes to mileage it really depends on the battery you use. It does what I expect it to. If you use it like I said It starts to make sense. I don't seem to be having over heating problems like your DeWalt ones. Maybe i haven't pushed mine enough? I'm a sample size of one tho. I agree with your assessment of the DeWalt with the long bar. The motor seems to be driving too much bar with that model. They got too ambitious at the design stage but it looks cool though.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад

      @shanemartin92 In my mind, 20" bar should be able to handle 20" logs until the battery drains without overheating. They really went after speed instead of longevity which, their batteries are the limiting factor. Uniformity killed them here. Being able to use the same batteries in various tools really stifled the chainsaw. They would have been better off using a proprietary battery for the 60v 20" saw, one that could handle the load without overheating. A LiPo version or something of the sort.
      These saws and all of the Dewalt batteries are essentially just a bunch of 18650 NiCad batteries in a fancy looking housing as far as I can tell from people who have opened them up. LiPo, while being more temperamental, could have really solved the overheat issue with the 60v 20" saw if they had made it a high capacity LiPo instead. NiCad is safer than Lipo I bet they'd be scared to fully drain a LiPo under extreme load. Battery tech just isn't there yet, they need to innovate to get my seal of approval.

    • @Azure1Zero4
      @Azure1Zero4 9 месяцев назад

      @@Bearbait01 Agreed.

  • @Toolboss0826
    @Toolboss0826 4 месяца назад

    Couldn’t agree more. I have 2 Husqvarna saws (460 rancher and 445) and absolutely love them. Also have a Stihl ms250 and all of them blow away any electric saw. Had an electric Makita saw for a week and returned it cause it just felt so underpowered. Absolutely love learning about chainsaws as well and sharpening the blades and stuff. Lot of fun man

  • @davidcarvalho9904
    @davidcarvalho9904 9 месяцев назад

    bought the dewalt 12 few years back first thing i did was put a 16 bar on it perfect for limbs and brush and firewood. I also own a huskey rancher again put a 20 on that never let me down on ANYTHING. own a Craftsman pole saw v20 that i converted to run dewalt batteries light weight but kind of 2 small for bigger limbs.I find oregon has the best selection for chains out there .TYVM for the video keep them coming Ride safe and stay healthy

  • @LeroyJenkins-nn5go
    @LeroyJenkins-nn5go 3 месяца назад

    I bought the Dewalt 20v pole saw when it first came out and it's been an amazing tool for the price, I have used it to top three large fruit trees and cut them up to fit in my truck, wife was amazed at how much work it can do on one battery, it also keeps you out of the danger zone and you can use it early in the morning without disturbing the neighbors

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  3 месяца назад

      I have one too. Like it a lot.

  • @libertarian1637
    @libertarian1637 7 месяцев назад +1

    FlexVolt in the US are listed as 60V in the EU they’re labeled 54V as the actual nominal voltage is 54V. It’s much like the 20V tools are listed as 18V in the EU. The batteries are made up of 5 3.6V 18650 batteries in series with the option of 2-3 sets in parallel which is how they get to 56V/60V as then the batteries all just run in series, with the exception of the 15 Amp/Hr battery that has 30 cells in a 15S2P configuration.
    The 20V and 60V nomenclature is pure marketing in the US as it was a way to differentiate the new, all lithium, battery line from the old 18V NiCad packs.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  7 месяцев назад

      Oh that makes a lot of sense!

  • @NGMonocrom
    @NGMonocrom 5 месяцев назад +2

    What I like about the least expensive DeWalt offering is that it comes with a chain-brake. What I despise about compact, battery-powered chainsaws from the budget brands out there is that they don't come with that feature. That is just insane to me!

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  5 месяцев назад +1

      I agree. Definitely a good feature for a saw that's only $150

  • @vangb8918
    @vangb8918 2 месяца назад

    very interesting review, i was looking at putting a new bar on my 16" saw or just buying the 20" saw. looks like ill rebar my 16". I run my 16" saw like a horse and it never really has problems overheating batts. i have about 4 to 5 9AH batts that i swap out as they die and cycle on a charger. I bought the saw to test it and i have been happy so far with it. for as much cutting as i am doing i should probably being into gas saw territory but this 16" dewalt just keeps chugging. had it for almost 2 years and use it almost every weekend to clean up my trails and drop trees for opening up my hunting food plot.

  • @markchurch4977
    @markchurch4977 6 месяцев назад +5

    I have the 12", 20V and like the rest it leaks (I love this little saw!). Rather than fix it DeWalt has come out with the following:
    Use an O-ring on the oil cap:
    1. Remove the oil cap completely from the chainsaw.
    2. Use a 5/8 or 3/4 o-ring and put it into the indentation of the cap. You might need some pliers to stretch the o-ring.
    3. Once it fits perfectly into the indentation, lubricate it a little bit with some oil and put the cap back onto the chainsaw.
    I just did this, so far no more leaking! Time will tell if it totally resolves the issue.

  • @TylerM-j1i
    @TylerM-j1i 9 месяцев назад +2

    The two M18 top handle saws I have had also overheat the batteries once they reach two bars left.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад

      That's interesting. Are you doing firewood cuts with them when they overheat or just general limbing?
      With the Top Handle Dewalt the batteries do not overheat when doing limbing/pruning cuts even at low battery.

    • @TylerM-j1i
      @TylerM-j1i 9 месяцев назад

      @@Bearbait01 Just trail maintenance, so generally 2-3 cuts, then a 5-10 min cooldown between trees. I admit that i do cut 12-14" trees with it, but still nothing it shouldn't be able to handle a few cuts in.

    • @caseygina3553
      @caseygina3553 6 месяцев назад

      Because 18V is too low voltage for the chain speed on that Milwaukee...DeWalt's is slower. Milwaukee is too attached to low voltage. Try an Ego 56V chainsaw.

    • @TylerM-j1i
      @TylerM-j1i 6 месяцев назад

      @@caseygina3553 I think you mean the torque is too much for the voltage. It has a pretty slow chain speed. My Husqvarna 540ixp with it's fan cooled battery is nearly perfect. High chain speed, though it could use more torque. Either way it's 36v over 18v.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 24 дня назад

      @@TylerM-j1i The Milwaukee overheats really quick with a 5ah or 8ah battery. I never overheated a 12ah battery on it, BUT I had two 12ah batteries fail within a couple of years. So, still wouldn't recommend it. Too bad, it's a great little saw within its limits.

  • @RC-Heli835
    @RC-Heli835 3 месяца назад

    To me the battery saws shine best in bucket trucks and tree climbing situations.
    No rope pulling and quite is nice.
    The Husqvarna T540i is a favorite among arborist but it's pricy to get it and 2 battery's.

  • @zachholmes7965
    @zachholmes7965 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’m not sure if it’s government related or just worldwide “DeWalt” brand but yes 18v & 54v are overseas and in the US they are 20v & 60v but are the exact same all around. Not sure why because every other brand keeps it the same worldwide. And overseas gets the new dewalt tools like 8+ months before the US

    • @erikruhl446
      @erikruhl446 6 месяцев назад

      Interesting I didn't know that

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 24 дня назад

      20v is a result of using a different metric to measure the same voltage. DeWalt went to that mainly to differentiate it from their old 18v NiCad system. Some countries don't allow that method to state voltage so they kept 18 in those areas.

  • @johnnywishbone932
    @johnnywishbone932 4 месяца назад

    These saws work fine. I used battery saws 20V and cut a 1/8 mile trail along a brook.
    Stop worrying about what people will say and just use your tools.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  4 месяца назад

      I agree I still despise the 20" 60v saw though.

  • @JustinMiales
    @JustinMiales 2 месяца назад

    The one that project Farm was using was a different saw, and it even beat the gas saw

  • @518TommyP
    @518TommyP 9 месяцев назад +1

    What a shame...my 16 inch version never stops like that when using it heavy with my 9ah ..it has to be something with the 20 inch bar setup..Dewalt must have tried to tweak something like chain speed...I would love to see you swap bars and see if it makes a difference

  • @Whateva67
    @Whateva67 9 месяцев назад +1

    You should see the size of the trees I’ve topped with my old 200T,they’re the best.

  • @genemetz1945
    @genemetz1945 6 месяцев назад

    Why does no one evaluate the Kobalt 80-volt brushless 18" chainsaw with a 5-ah battery? - - I have (2) Kobalt 80-volt 18" Bar Chainsaws and use (2) 5 AH Batteries. Using it on a Southeast LA farm that was devastated by a Hurricane and has been working absolutely great even cutting huge logs and trees. For oil, I like to use Ryobi Bar and chain oil. We have cut 20"+_ logs and it works like a charm. And NO more pulling and pulling to start a gas-powered chainsaw. My first 80-volt 18" Bar Chain saw with a 5-AH Battery and charger was $400 in Jul 2021

  • @justinfufun5483
    @justinfufun5483 6 месяцев назад +2

    54v and 60v are the same thing. You charge at 60 but they output 54. Americans like big numbers so it's just a marketing thing.
    Same goes for 18v snd 20v

  • @caseygina3553
    @caseygina3553 6 месяцев назад

    The problem with the 60V saw is too small of a battery. You really need a Flexvolt "15Ah" battery for it. That's only actually 5Ah at 54V, which DeWalt falsely advertises as "60V max" in the USA. That's still a pretty minimal size battery for that saw.
    Buy yourself an Ego! Their 56V 20" saw comes with a 6Ah battery - bigger than DeWalt's biggest, and you can use up to a 12Ah battery for serious work. They also sell a backpack battery adapter so you can put the battery weight on your back and have a lighter tool in your hands. Standard Oregon 3/8" LP bar & chain.
    I also have that DeWalt 18V ("20V") saw and that's a great light tool for small jobs. I'm excited to try the top handle "60V" saw which seems far better. But for a long bar and firewood processing, DeWalt's batteries are insufficient, and Ego is far better. Maybe they'll release a saw that uses their upcoming Powershift 60V battery (equivalent to a 9Ah Ego) eventually...

  • @beebop9808
    @beebop9808 9 месяцев назад +2

    Think I'll be sticking with my Husky and Stihl smokers. hahaha I have had one of those little Dewalt pole saws for a while now. Love that little thing. Amazing what it'll cut and the runtime just on a 2ah battery is crazy. Work you to death with a 5ah battery. Well worth the $129 bucks it costed.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад +1

      I got one of those too just for the hell of it. It's impressive but very heavy when you extend it all the way out.

    • @beebop9808
      @beebop9808 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah that extension is ridiculous. Need some tightrope experience to plug that thing in! 🤣

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 9 месяцев назад +1

      I was doing creek restoration on a big pipeline job here in British Columbia,we pound a lot of wooden posts into the ground on the edge of creeks after they put the pipe in the ground to restore the creek edge. I bought the dewalt pruning saw for the job to cut the posts down and it worked awesome,it leaks a lot of bar oil but I got my 200$ worth of cutting out of it so I’m happy.

    • @beebop9808
      @beebop9808 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Whateva67 Got to be careful where you store them if you don't want oil everywhere. Can't say the chain isn't well lubed though. lol. I've abused the crap out of the one I've got and it just keeps on going. Def earned it's worth if it blows up tomorrow.

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 9 месяцев назад

      @@beebop9808 true,I don’t want it to die after only owning it a year but if it does,cest la vie. I have gas powered saws for the big stuff.

  • @bigfoot-wo3qy
    @bigfoot-wo3qy 9 месяцев назад +3

    60v and 54v are the same saw. USA you can rate it at unloaded v Europe is loaded v

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад

      I figured it was something like that. 👍

  • @kentduggan8626
    @kentduggan8626 9 месяцев назад

    I got the 18 in and it rocks, I do keep 3 batteries if one starts to overheat I swap and let it cool off

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад

      Does it overheat as easily as mine does? Granted I was basically maxing out the 20" bar.

  • @gole8724
    @gole8724 Месяц назад

    My 20v 12" dewalt stopped a lot while cutting and now it's toast. 3 years of moderate use...not happy. You can get a 56V 16" Ego for less money than the 12" Dewalt so might try that next and hope it lasts longer.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  Месяц назад

      3 years of moderate use for a $100 saw man that sounds like a good deal.

    • @gole8724
      @gole8724 Месяц назад

      @@Bearbait01 More like $150 for a bare tool. All my other Dewalt 20V tools are still going strong with much more use and abuse. If you think only 3 years of use is a "good deal" I've got a bridge I'll sell ya.

    • @angrybeavers1175
      @angrybeavers1175 7 дней назад

      The ego batteries overheat and go bad on the chainsaw

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  7 дней назад

      @@gole8724 you could just be poor

  • @Thebankfisher
    @Thebankfisher 8 месяцев назад +2

    You can't replace a good 50cc gas saw

  • @trekmcdonald9608
    @trekmcdonald9608 9 месяцев назад

    I think you took the rakers down a bit too much on the 12 inch, I never have problems with mine stopping so easy. I had the 18 for awhile, in my opinion it's too much for a 9ah. I had the 16 for a long time and the 18 came up for a decent price so I got it. All I have are 9ah batteries but I didn't like the 18 at all after having the 16. The other bummer (which makes sense) is that the larger the bar the lower the chain speed. It's super obvious going from the 16 to the 18. I think the 16 is the best

  • @henryhenry4377
    @henryhenry4377 10 дней назад

    Hi I liked your demonstration video.Just wondering does the 14 inchsinsaw have more power then the the 12 inch chainsaw.Ty.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  10 дней назад +1

      Yes it's 3x as powerful

  • @Jeff-rk8hq
    @Jeff-rk8hq 8 месяцев назад

    On the flexvolt stuff you were speaking of the 60v and 56v tools are actually both the same tools and voltage but the 56v is nominal voltage and the 60v is at its fully charged state is all to my understanding but I’m no expert

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  8 месяцев назад

      Pretty sure they just rounded up from 54 to 60 as a marketing gimmick. They're all 54 volt. Only America will let them get away with calling them 60v when they're actually 54v. I bet it's some stupid shit like that. Legal BS.

  • @brimstone260
    @brimstone260 8 месяцев назад

    I reckon I could do a better hissy than this, but justified.😅
    Just about go start out with my Dewalt 14" 54v journey, all the fun to come!

  • @lackr0073
    @lackr0073 3 месяца назад

    I spend more time working on every chain saw I have ever owned more than I have actually used them for cutting wood.

  • @nicolaschampagne8988
    @nicolaschampagne8988 9 дней назад

    with the big 60v 20 inch i like to fell tree, cut it to length and prune it while it is on the ground. if you give it some time between big cuts by pruning stuff it wont be that bad. but definitively not made to continuously cut full plate for a while. also mine oil properly tho

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  8 дней назад

      I try pretty hard to like this saw and it always disappoints me. Broke it out the other day, been running my gas saws a lot but wanted to give this a second look. I couldn't do it. Also the bar is so flimsy I didn't notice before but it's so cheaply made it's kinda embarrassing on dewalt's part.

    • @nicolaschampagne8988
      @nicolaschampagne8988 8 дней назад +1

      @Bearbait01 you could look on youtube. People did modify it by switching the bar and the chain for a regular oregon one. Also i think you need to leave the rakers super high. If you take too much of them then it's worst on the batteries

    • @nicolaschampagne8988
      @nicolaschampagne8988 8 дней назад

      Chains
      Oregon 91PX068G AdvanceCut saw chain (low kickback)
      Oregon 91VXL068G VersaCut saw chain (NOT low kickback!)

  • @Zebraliked
    @Zebraliked Месяц назад

    After watching the video i clearly take the 20 inch dewalt.cleaning river sides or cutting down tree every 20 min is very good.for other purpose i just use petrol saw .simple...

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  Месяц назад

      Just get ready for the oiler to not work

  • @Mountain-Viking
    @Mountain-Viking 5 месяцев назад

    the difference between Dewalt 20V Max and 18V is essentially marketing in nature, rather than relating to electrical power. There is no functional difference between 20V Max and 18V! 18V is the nominal voltage for 5x 3.6V Li-ion batteries connected in series. 20V Max takes into account 5x 4.0V, which is the average maximum voltage at full charge with no load applied. In other words, if you have a Dewalt 20V Max 5Ah battery from the USA and a Dewalt 18V XR 5Ah battery from Europe, they are - for all intents and purposes - the same exact battery but with different labels.

  • @cjpirotelli8640
    @cjpirotelli8640 4 месяца назад

    Do you think a skip chain would help?
    That maybe the battery wouldn't dump as much draw from the battery = longer run time?
    Thanks for definitely one of the top realest video on this saw!
    I'm an arb worker too & recently been looking for electric for some night shifts. I have husqvarna electric top handle but there aren't any decent rear electric available in Australia apart from Stihls very expensive msa300

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  4 месяца назад +2

      I for whatever reason think a skip tooth chain will make the batteries heat up faster. Overheat faster. I feel like on these batter saws you need a sharp chain to keep it cutting and keep the RPMs down to a regular level to keep thr batteries happy.

    • @cjpirotelli8640
      @cjpirotelli8640 4 месяца назад

      @@Bearbait01 Yeah okay, maybe I'll do my own research & let you know. I thought maybe the reduced torque load might equal less draw -> heat on the battery. Like on a driver. But if you rpm it for a long time with no-low load the units motors can get pretty warm.
      I'll let you know if I find any worthy helpful info

  • @philodox7599
    @philodox7599 24 дня назад

    Look I like your video a lot and I am glad that you made it. BUT #1 that top handle stalled out a lot, #2 That bigger saw bulls more amps so OF COURSE it is going to instantly die on 1 bar when a smaller motor pulling LESS amps does not stall #3 I don't disagree with what you are saying I am just pointing things out, I am sure if i used those saws in real life I would understand better what you mean and why you are upset.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  24 дня назад

      The top handle stalled out? You must mean the 20v small rear handle. It's completely unacceptable for the big saw to overheat a fully charged battery after like 8 cuts through hemlock with a fresh chain.

    • @philodox7599
      @philodox7599 24 дня назад

      @@Bearbait01 No i mean the top handle saw you used last, Either it was stalling or you kept stopping it mid cut

    • @philodox7599
      @philodox7599 23 дня назад

      @@Bearbait01 Also I Totally agree with you, a 60v saw that costs that much should not stall and overheat. I would be PISSED if i spent that much and it kept doing that.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  23 дня назад

      I kept stopping it mid cut I think. I don't really have issues with that saw stalling keep in mind this is big wood for that saw too.

    • @philodox7599
      @philodox7599 22 дня назад

      @@Bearbait01 O ok. I could not tell but it looked like it was stalling. I stand corrected.

  • @canadoescalling1800
    @canadoescalling1800 7 месяцев назад +1

    Did you end up finding a thinner bar oil that pairs well with your new 60v top handle's adjustable oiler?

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  7 месяцев назад +1

      I started using Oregon bar and chain oil after I watched a Project Farm video that seemed like the oregon oil was the all around best. Seems to work well. I really like it on the husky 572, does WAY WAY WAY BETTER than the Husqvarns X guard stuff. THAT STUFF SUCKS!

  • @clintmiller88
    @clintmiller88 3 месяца назад

    I’ve heard the EGO electric ones are decent

  • @fwewefdew
    @fwewefdew 7 месяцев назад

    Hi @bearbait01 - thanks for the video. I'm from Denmark, I godt the small dewalt. My first chainsaw too, and I'm really happy about it. I could cut a ton of 3-4 inch hardwood tree just on 1 5Ah battery. I have also cut big logs up too 10-11 inches, It takes time yes, but its possible if you turn the saw up and down a but so u dont put too much work load on it. it leaks/uses oil as f**k like u mentioned, thats really the only disadvantage I woud say. In Denmark u could get a cheap gasoline saw for the same amout (like 200$) with a 14-15 inch sword, with a lot more power. But its a lot more noisey and heavyer to carry arround. it's the classic advantage/disadvantage petrol vs. eletrical eingine. more power, but also more maintenence. I'll consinder the small flexwolt at some point...

  • @benderman55
    @benderman55 9 месяцев назад +2

    I have both the little baby 12 inch and the 20 inch, the 20 inch works awesome with the 15ah battery, would not use it with anything less, I have 2 15ah battery and i can cut enough firewood to last me a week at camp with 2 batteries. I have the stihl 2 in 1 saw file and keep it rzr sharp. Go buy a 300$ gas saw if you want.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад +2

      I'm going to have to get a 15ah battery and test it. I really don't see how it could make that much of a difference. It ships with a 12ah. I doubt 3ah is going to stop it from overheating.

    • @benderman55
      @benderman55 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Bearbait01Not sure what your talking about over heating, I have cut a pile of wood until the battery's are dead, they are a high draw unit, maybe you should learn how to sharpen it, I have used mine extensively, I haven't touched my stihl 362 with 25 inch bar since purchasing. You need to sharpen that unit, let the saw do the work instead of laying into it the way you do.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад +1

      @benderman55 chain is sharp, dogging it in or not hasn't effected my results at all. Are you cutting 18" diameter wood using the full length of the bar or cutting things more in the 8-10" range. Because it can do that for a while and be fine but once you stick it in large wood it craps out.

  • @dasgeschueh
    @dasgeschueh 4 месяца назад

    The difference between 18V and 20V as well as 54V and 60V is just the marketing...
    Since batteries have a voltage depending on the charge level, no battery will have exactly 54V or 60V.
    The nominal voltage of LiIon is 3.6V. But if you charge it, it is only fully charged if one cell has 4.2V With 5Cells in Series this gives 18V or 21V.
    For the 60V Version you have 15Cells in Series -> 54V nominal or 63V fully charged.
    Why it is called 20V (US) or 18V(EU) i can not say.. maybe its some marketing thing, that round numbers are more comprehensive or just "historically". But its the same battery, motor and technology.

  • @patterdalezipsuzilil
    @patterdalezipsuzilil 4 месяца назад

    Its because the 54v charges at 60v

  • @browndog4299
    @browndog4299 5 месяцев назад

    They’re not a petrol saw😮! I’ve got the 18” , never leaked oil, never overheated a battery. It’s great…it’s not a petrol saw! Not a petrol saw. IT’s electric. By the way, it’s an electric saw.

  • @bread-gz3rl
    @bread-gz3rl 9 месяцев назад +9

    The 20" is meant to be run with the 15AH

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад +1

      It comes with a 12ah. Doesn't make a difference. Acts the same way, it actually acted better with the 9ah

    • @floraandflannel
      @floraandflannel 9 месяцев назад

      Truth.

    • @itsnot1673
      @itsnot1673 8 месяцев назад

      Yes the 9ah is the most "powerful" flexvolt battery due to the cells inside @@Bearbait01

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  8 месяцев назад

      @@itsnot1673 How do you figure that?

    • @Rocketfistmooga
      @Rocketfistmooga 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Bearbait01it has to do with the type of cells the 9ah uses. They are able to discharge at a higher rate than any other dewalt battery. The 15ah has the most runtime potential but can’t discharge at the same current the 9ah can. Someone else could tell you the type of battery the 9 uses over the other flexvolt batteries. Or a simple google search reveals more answers

  • @John-cj3ve
    @John-cj3ve 4 месяца назад

    'All' the big battery operated saws overheat too easy. I've seen tests where the big commercial EGO overheats rather quickly; as well as the commercial Greenworks 20".
    I can personally vouch for the EGO CSX5000 doing this; because I have one.
    I spent over half a thousand dollars on the largest battery EGO makes to try to fix the issue; to no avail.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  4 месяца назад

      They're especially bad with overheating if your chain isn't 100% sharp. An even slightly dull chain overheats them really fast.

  • @jamesgilles7764
    @jamesgilles7764 Месяц назад

    DeWalt places a sticker in the handle with the chain number.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  Месяц назад

      In the handle? I've found the part numbers for the Dewalt chains on their website but I've not been able to find them in stock anywhere. Maybe it's better now idk I haven't bothered to look for chains for this thing as I don't use it.

  • @dogzer
    @dogzer 8 месяцев назад

    I want the 60v dewalt chainsaw.... because it looks cool

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  8 месяцев назад +1

      I bought it for the memes

  • @ggpaintballer
    @ggpaintballer 8 месяцев назад +1

    Which bar did you go with specifically? You stay at .325?

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  8 месяцев назад

      On the top handle it's the same bar and chain you'd use for a t540xp. Still .325

    • @ggpaintballer
      @ggpaintballer 8 месяцев назад

      Thanks dude. Keep up the reviews. You're the only one doing them still. @@Bearbait01

  • @JustinMiales
    @JustinMiales 2 месяца назад

    I seen a DeWalt saw on a video with dual batteries

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  2 месяца назад

      Must be new. Sounds heavy

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  2 месяца назад

      I just saw an ad for a milwaukee saw with 2 batteries that's probably the one you're thinking of. As far as I know Dewalt has no dual battery saws.

    • @TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet
      @TheNicestAssholeYouWillNvrMeet Месяц назад

      Hi girls 😉

  • @RAMtrails
    @RAMtrails 7 месяцев назад

    would you get the 12" or 14" for just cutting firewood while camping? I want something I'm going to enjoy and that will last for years to come.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  7 месяцев назад +1

      Depends how much you want to spend. That's the only factor I'd worry about. If you don't need speed get the 12" if you need speed and don't mind paying for speed get the 14".

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  7 месяцев назад +1

      I will tell you I never reach for the 12" for anything, It's the saw that I don't mind letting other people use also though because of how inexpensive it was. If you have kids and you want then to be able to help cutting wood get the 12", a kid won't be able to handle the 14".

  • @MrCubflyer
    @MrCubflyer 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love my Dewalt chainsaw

  • @Gillteixeira
    @Gillteixeira 2 месяца назад

    Milwaukee vs Dewalt ? Which top handle is better

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  2 месяца назад

      Likely the Dewalt. I don't have a milwaukee but i don't see how it could be better than the Dewalt.

  • @ericnichols9275
    @ericnichols9275 8 месяцев назад +1

    I GUESS you have to have about 4 Batteries for the DEFAULT or just buy what I have EGO 18 inch CHAIN saw with 4 Batteries worth $1500

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  8 месяцев назад

      So change nothing but the brand? Lol ok

  • @rawdawg_
    @rawdawg_ 7 месяцев назад

    Im on the fence between the 16inch dewalt or the top handle 12inch. What do you prefer?

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  7 месяцев назад

      Depends what you want it for, what your use case is. I personally don't really recommend either of them but if you must, the 12in 20v saw is good for small occasional jobs and the 60v with a 16" bar would be good for larger occasional jobs.
      I think a used stihl ms250 is what you should be buying if you're in the market for either of these saws and don't care if it's electric or not.

  • @patterdalezipsuzilil
    @patterdalezipsuzilil 9 месяцев назад

    I just got the 500mm only because I read it has a 3000w motor but now I got it its too big can I put a 400mm bar on it

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад

      You can if you find a bar that's compatible. If you bought the 20" saw you can put an 18" on it no problem. Not sure about the 16" but I bet it's compatible.

  • @timchiriac7194
    @timchiriac7194 6 месяцев назад

    Did you put a oregon 16 inch bar on that top handle saw ?

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  6 месяцев назад +1

      It's a 14in oregon bar.

  • @goldienakamoto7894
    @goldienakamoto7894 Месяц назад

    "INDOOR WORK RIPPING 2X4'S" 😂😂

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  Месяц назад

      That's my honest opinion lol

    • @goldienakamoto7894
      @goldienakamoto7894 Месяц назад

      @@Bearbait01 I KNO BUT ITS FUCKING HILARIOUS GREAT CONTENT THIS WAS VERY HELPFULLY I HAD A TREE FALL AND THIS 20V JUST AINT CUTTING IT THINKIN ABOUT THE 14" BUT MAN 700$ I GUESS MOST NICE TOOLS ARE THAT EXPENSIVE THO LIKE MY FENCE STAPLE GUN

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  Месяц назад

      @goldienakamoto7894 i did another video on the 14" it did something like 118 cuts back to back no overheating it anything on a 9AH battery

    • @goldienakamoto7894
      @goldienakamoto7894 Месяц назад

      @@Bearbait01 WOW THATS IMPRESSIVE MAN REALLY APPRECIATE U SHOWING THAT OTHER 60V OVERHEATING NOBODY HAS TIME FOR THAT

  • @JoseGonzales-ul9sv
    @JoseGonzales-ul9sv Месяц назад

    Don't know why you hating i have know issues with mine

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  Месяц назад

      I showed the issues so that should explain why I'm hating

  • @andrewepp6763
    @andrewepp6763 2 месяца назад

    Great video!

  • @LeeRoy1234
    @LeeRoy1234 5 месяцев назад

    That 20v is complete trash. I was given one and I would say it is completely useless. So to say the bigger saw is worse is a bold statement 😂

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  5 месяцев назад +1

      I tell it like I see it lol.
      Don't get me wrong I never ever reach for the 20v saw. But for $100-150 it does what it's supposed to.
      I really like the 60v top handle saw though. It's really really good.

  • @OUTILSCLIPSQC
    @OUTILSCLIPSQC 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this video !

  • @patriotridge
    @patriotridge 9 месяцев назад +1

    Same disappointment as battery mowers...they suck.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад

      Except the top handle is minty. Electric saws make no sense imo except for the climbing saws. I love the 60v climbing saw.

  • @Thebankfisher
    @Thebankfisher 8 месяцев назад

    That 20" bar version is a miserable design, long, heavy, underpowered. The climbing saw is nice but thats where electric saws should stop.

    • @patterdalezipsuzilil
      @patterdalezipsuzilil 7 месяцев назад

      The 20inch as a 3000w motor use a 15ah battery as dewalt recommends don't know what your problem is with it

  • @PageMarker1
    @PageMarker1 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Milwaukee is better from what I've seen.

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  7 месяцев назад +2

      No one's done an actual head to head of the Milwuakee M18 Top Handle vs the Dewalt 60v Top Handle so we don't know yet. I'm sure they're just about the same but the dewalt is likely faster because the Milwaukee I believe is only 40v or somwthing close to that.

    • @PageMarker1
      @PageMarker1 7 месяцев назад

      @@Bearbait01 I've got a Greenworks, not sure the oiler works but it suffices around the house. DeWalt has really upped the ante when it comes to impacts these days, the DCF961 had Milwaukee seeing red...) Got the DeWalt drill and impact from Home Depot a couple years ago, it suffice my needs. Best wishes!

  • @РамильВладимиров-д1о
    @РамильВладимиров-д1о 5 месяцев назад

    На строике аккумуляторный пила 💪💪💪💪💪👍

  • @JustinPuzey
    @JustinPuzey 9 месяцев назад

    Clean you oiler out it get clogged easy

    • @JustinPuzey
      @JustinPuzey 9 месяцев назад

      Sounds like you dog it in hard I or sharping saw chain right

    • @Bearbait01
      @Bearbait01  9 месяцев назад

      Nah it's just a junk product.

  • @goldienakamoto7894
    @goldienakamoto7894 6 месяцев назад

    well done

  • @jimkelly2272
    @jimkelly2272 9 месяцев назад

    Love my Makitas. Love my Sthil mini boss tho

  • @РоманЯровынский
    @РоманЯровынский 5 месяцев назад

    Хороший обзор. Прошу тебя, не используй пилу одной рукой, это не круто, и тем более не безопасно

  • @adamsorell4851
    @adamsorell4851 10 дней назад

    I got the old 40v one.

  • @bornforfreetaxtothedeath..7542
    @bornforfreetaxtothedeath..7542 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for heads up about electric chainsaws...