Missing multiple FGA combined with 12 penalties for 80 yards and multiple turnovers is how you lose to a team that couldn't score a touchdown all game.
Agree with first comment plus… Hidden yards is killing the Ravens too. The Steelers wanted them to return the ball from kickoffs. Only once can I recall the return making it back to the 30 and even then I think it got taken back 10 yards for a block in the back. They’re constantly starting drives from within their own 30 if not their own 20. Add on the Oline penalties and the ravens have to out gain their opponent by ~100 yards a game OR win the turnover battle. Against a good defence like the Steelers that’s tough.
@@JunctionWatcher I think that as we get more experience and history on the new kickoff rule you might see special teams coaches feel more comfortable kicking the ball down to the 0 - 5 yard line and the coverage team keeping the returner from getting even to the 20. So far I think the head coaches are just trying to keep another variable out of the game, as they are afraid of a game breaking 99 yard return.
he loses field goals? our punter bass, misses extra points regularly and when he does get them barely makes them........but hey he made ONE 66 yarder so i guess his job is secured this season 🙄 hes gonna cost us the damn playoffs just for us to learn and this isnour best year
The fact is… Justine Tucker is one of the weakest players ever He literally allowed Kelsey to be the reason why he won’t make the Hall of Fame. He allowed that one incident to totally change the trajectory of his NFL career. Kelsey got his head one time last year and Tucker he was never the same. He’s weak. And not a Hall of Famer. Or a legend
Tucker's only 34. Chris Boswell, 33, was 6/6 today and has had two bad seasons in his career (65% and 71%) and bounced back both times. Tucker is at 72% currently after today's bad performance. Not impossible to shake off, but a reset needs to happen somehow.
I said to my friend, the Bills and Ravens should swap kickers. I feel like this is going to be somewhat like the Goff/Stafford situation where they both just need a change of scenery. Both have been darn near automatic in the past and both are all aboard the struggle bus right now
@JKSSubstandard id be so unbelievably livid if they did that. Tucker will be fine and he'll be back at the top in no time. Barring injury or abrubt retirement lmao. Hes a ravens legend and he will have the well earned extended leash before any change is made.
A similar feeling as an eagles fan. Elliott has been okay this year, but he missed 2 field goals and an extra point with a perfect hold on Thursday against Washington. Definitely keeping him around, but frustrating.
Same now with the Bengals and McPherson. Elliot, McPherson, and Tucker were all deadly weapons for their teams and now that they’re regressing the teams are paying for it
@crimsonchin8916 Boswell is good but that’s not a great argument, he had to kick so many FGs cos Russell Wilson is washed and couldn’t ever put the ball in the endzone. Bates doesn’t need to kick 6 FGs to win, he lets Goff blow out opponents and eventually get a walk off FG when needed. Bates >
@ buddy Chris Boswell is the most accurate kicker OF ALL TIME from 50+yards. Google it if ur not sure. And has missed one kick all year. Not to mention Chris Boswell does this at home in Pittsburgh. No other kicker could do what he does in the environment he does it in.
If anything at the very least the whole FG unit and process needs to be looked at and analyzed. Timing and position are huge for kickers and it still bothers me that Tuckers stats started to take a dive once Jordan Stout started to hold.
I agree, but they also can't let past performance absolve him any blame moving forward. Correlation is not always causation, like ice cream truck sales causing murder rates to increase. Stout may be the problem or it could just coincide with a tucker decline. What kills me is no changes to any 3 pieces of the operation have been changed, we just keep banging our heads on the wall hoping it won't hurt next time. Pitt IRed boswell in his down year and if we won't do that they need to look at other LSers and holders
@@godc5073 I wonder if both may be true. He was already starting a decline, his subconsious noticed any change, even one(s) that wouldn't impact his kicking otherwise made by the holder and now it's the yips in a way
Ha! goodness me Pete b8n that is so funny! You really got everyone else out here laughing as well! You really should think about going into the comedy business!
Evan MacPherson has missed 6 field goals this season. It really is seeming like something is going on with the kicking balls in the NFL this year. There’s too many good kickers having a bad season to be a coincidence.
Still super weird to see such a rapid falloff from an elite player like that. Like, granted I don't really track Kicker career trajectories, but I feel like I normally see distance start to fade and the accuracy stays til they retire.
My wife asked me if there were dishes still in the sink and I just looked at her, smiled, and said "Justin Tucker." She smiled back. She knew they were washed.
@@thetheoryofeverything7129 Washed is slang for washed up, which itself is slang for saying a player, who was once good, is no longer good, usually not even decent. This joke, which has been popular in sports, and especially NFL, comment sections for a while now, plays on this. Each time its used, the commenter uses the same premise, but switches in the name of the player who they are indicating is "washed". The implication of this common joke is that the wife knows the player is washed, and thus the husband is telling her that there are no dishes in the sink because they've all been washed.
@@The_Bad_Guy. Maybe they're not American? Or they could be young. Either way, there's nothing wrong with asking a question if you don't understand something.
Came straight to your channel to see what’s up cause I had a feeling you’d be on this. Always enjoy your analysis on kicking and your content in general, brother. Please keep up the great work
@@SelectCircle You can't just do that. There's something called a sweet spot of the ball that the middle of your foot needs to hit to kick it straight and powerfully. Having the ball leaning the wrong way, or even straight up takes away the sweet spot, making your kicks less powerful and MUCH less accurate. (I'm a football kicker/punter and rugby player who also punts and kicks btw)
@@sclice8680 Yeah yeah. And you can't pull an outside pitch. Unless you're Barry Bonds. If Tucker ain't Tucker anymore - then to hell with him. What you are is a mediocre kicker. Is there any comparing me to Barry Bonds? Give it up - Tucker's toast.
@SelectCircle no no, Tucker did fall off. I was just saying that having the ball leaning towards the side makes you ineffective. That isn't his problem though, his form is just falling apart and he's getting too old
It's the fault of Ian Eagle, the announcer who called the game on CBS! Before his first FG attempt: "The most accurate kicker in NFL history." Miss. Before his second FG attempt: "He has been Mister Automatic throughout his career." Miss. Double jinx!!
@@grogery1570 Of course it isn't real. When an announcer says, "he has made 25 straight kicks," or something like that, and the kicker misses, what we don't see is that the announcer also mentioned his streak at 24, at 23, etc.
@chesscomsupport8689 its definitely just confirmation bias, but sometimes its fun to imagine it is real. now the Madden curse, that one might actually be real.
"Father time is undefeated" I mean at this point, LeBron has not only defeated father time but feasted on his flesh afterwards like Cronus eating his children. But I suppose father time is undefeated with all non- LeBron humans.
Boswell had a horrible season one year, fans were chanting for him to be fired. Now he is probably one of the most consistent kickers in the league and is single-handedly winning games. Sometimes you just show up to work a little off, and unfortunately for kickers their work is binary, they either make it or don't, making it much more obvious.
I always do find it amazing that no matter how good for how long a kicker is, that once they start screwing up their kicks even a little.... suddenly there is an intervention..... Talk about a position has to be literally the most perfect at their position than anyone else on the team.....
it hurts worse because of this huge kicking renaissance going on right now where it feels like all you hear about from TV talking heads is how every other kicker in the league is banging out 70 yard FGs and punts before breakfast. yes I am exaggerating because the loss to the Steelers yesterday still stings but it feels like younger kickers around the league are upping the game and starting a new era and we have the guy who was the GOAT of the previous era of kickers, who isn't what he used to be.
Look, I love Justin Tucker and everything he done for us... I remember the 2010, 2011 runs we done with Billy Cundiff, and maybe, maybe we need to look for another option before option before the 2025 season...
As a Steelers fan, I would not give up on Tucker. Those were long field goals and Heinz Field is a tough venue to play in. Even the best players have an off day
You never know what is going on behind closed doors. He could be dealing with a current injury or trying to heal from a previous one... 🤷♂️ The same thing was going on a couple years ago with Harrison Butker. It just takes time to heal...
Ravens had great kickers. Started with Stover on whom they relied far too much. Defense was great but offense bad and had to go on Stover’s kicks too much. With Tucker Flacco was in and finally getting decent offense, but yes they did have to rely on him too much still. Now it’s the opposite of 20 years ago. Bad defense, poor kicker, maybe.
Man, if there's a guy who deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's Tucker for all the killer kicks he's made over his career. But he's been bad enough that he's pulling them out of the division lead in a year where Lamar Jackson is looking likely to run away with MVP, and Derrick Henry could win OPOY alongside him. It's not a good look. If you want to bury him, you could say he's had a downward trend the last 3 years, with even 2 years ago being the lowest completion percentage since his 3rd year in the league. But I'm not ready to do that yet. I don't know if it'd hurt his confidence more, but maybe you can say he's injured and give him the rest of the year and off-season to figure out and correct whatever is wrong. Most NFLers are dealing with some sort of nagging injury a lot of the time, and I'd imagine that's even true for kickers, so coming up with something shouldn't be hard. That could also help public perception of him if you say he's been battling that injury most of the year. But that's probably dependent on finding another kicker who's better than Tucker has been this year, and given how many teams are using backup kickers at this point, I don't know what the remaining talent pool is. Although those backup kickers seem to be mostly handling business, so that bodes well.
Yes, Tucker could have won them the game yesterday, but it's the 92 penalties, more than eight PER GAME and ten more than the next most penalized team, that are killing them this season. The defense came around yesterday but it has been a liability during crucial games also.
Tuck has earned more slack than most kickers. We didn't lose that game because of him, but he sure didn't help. I hope he gets it figured out. It feels like a mental thing with him.
As a die hard ravens fan, I love what he's done for us for over a decade, but I do think it may be time to move on from Tucker. Man needs to focus less or RoFo chicken and more on kicking. If he doesn't bounce back for the end of the season, I think it's time to part ways with him. I'm rooting for him, but he's gotta make some adjustments and quick.
The winds that swirl around the confluence of rivers near the open end of Heinz Field give visiting kickers fits. Boswell knows them best and is better able to compensate for them. I'm willing to give Tucker a mulligan on this one. No bias as I'm a Steelers fan and I dislike the Ravens.
And with that, FLORIDA GATOR Eddy Pineiro takes his place as the most accurate kicker in NFL history. Amazing for a guy who didn't even kick until college. (Just forget for now that McPherson is also a Florida Gator)
In a year where it looks like it’s the Ravens year. The admired veteran might be their downfall. He I still solid but can’t make the long ones anymore, and coach will have to give him a shot at those because of his legendary history. Sad really
He always takes such an aggressive angle and lean while he has been awesome for years does that translate well when you get older. Too early to tell I think but the older kickers with longevity have usually had a smooth simple kick. You don't hit from 66 though being simple! Different sport but Tiger Woods like. That swing was so unique and powerful in 20's/30's but tough to translate when 40.
4 misses isn't the worst thing. It's when he starts missing badly on field goals under 30 yards that you should worry. And great kickers often have very long careers, so I doubt the Ravens would be quick to pull the plug on his time in Baltimore just yet.
It’s like Jenga. You can only ascend to great heights (have success) by destroying your base. That’s why so many athletes come from broken homes AND injure their legs, ankles, hips, etc… even on plays without contact. Look it Tyson. His bum knee aint because of age. You just watch and see how Justin performs in relation to his family life.
All these pundits and commentators nobody’s talking about the fact that Tucker’s contract was restructured and he had to take a pay cut to make room for bigger salaries like that didn’t have anything to deal with his accuracy
Honestly...if he loves and wants to play he should keep goin next yr. Mason Crosby went to have a historically bad yr out of nowhere one yr and then the next yr and going forward he was so gold. Kickers have slumps....it happens if he is a proven kicker...u just gotta ride the wave out.
If a field goal kicker “loses the game” then the team failed to secure a win. Blaming the kicker is manchild nonsense. Like the posturing of all the coaches shaking their heads like their offense didn’t fail to make a third down conversion and get further down the field.
But that's nonsense. Teams play calling takes field goals into account. They would just go for it on 4th down if kickers didn't exist Teams don't score a TD on the last drive of the game not because they can't, but because is strategic to run the clock and kick the FG.
It’s funny to me that there are elite athletes who go from GOAT one day and eventually they lose that status. Streaks are meant to end. Eventually you lose that title. People aren’t infallible.
I haven't been watching all session, but the Steelers stadium is hard to kick in. It has the highest amount of misses out of every stadium. I know he's used to kicking there, but doesn't mean it's easy
It’s hard for me to notice because they never show a close up angle but I believe JT has stopped doing his little catholic prayer thing he use to do before every kick I’m Baptist idk what it was called.
If the Ravens cut Tucker, where are they going to get a better kicker to replace him? Every player's career ends eventually, no matter how great they are.
You must be new if you haven't seen Justin Tucker before this year. You can't just let go of one of the greatest kickers of all time after a few down games. Give it some time, maybe a season or two, then the decision can be made.
Hes merely an above average kicker now... hes still only missed 3 under 50 in 2 years. His range has absolutely dropped for the time being and we have to stick to 50 max for right now but I believe he will come back from this and ill laugh at all the doomers lmao he hasnt even been missing by alot, he basically grazed the uprights on 2 of his last 3 misses. Yes its a concern, but struggles happen and you gotta keep the faith in the man.
I'll think he just had a bad day. I don't blame him for the loss. The golden boy with the hurt leg trying to run the ball for a two point conversion is at fault.
Someone said on Reddit that Tucker had mentioned on a podcast that a change to his technique to generate more power a few years back really took a toll on his body. Any truth to that? I remember McAfee saying he flat out can't kick a ball anymore, he's so busted.
The issue is.. your previous seasons don't matter when it's mechanics. He has an issue with mechanics. He could be done with being the best kicker in nfl history and never kick another season.
Looking at the stats table you showed at 1:35 - it actually isn't that bad. Yeah, he's currently at his lowest percentage ever, but it's entirely due to misses from long range. He was actually worse last year from 50+ than he has been so far this year (and comparably bad in 2014 and 2015), it's just he kicked more FGs from shorter range in those years. He's not performing at the elite level that he often has in the past, but there's still plenty of games left for him to avoid this being his worst year ever.
They're all missing for the exact same reason to the same degree. Something something Tyler Bass on Opposite Day. His current mechanics are the manifestation of precision without accuracy. A single tweak, however slight, could fix all of this. Obviously, I'm not a kicking coach, so I can't tell you what he'd need to do, but even just aiming a bit to the right might fix the problem in the short term. For something more sustainable, the technology to analyze and alter mechanics to get the optimal rotation and placement exists; we've seen it in baseball (and, I'm guessing, probably golf) for years now. It's just a matter of unlearning whatever habit created this change. There's so much potential money in this that *someone* has to have the answers. Hell, it's probably down to an exact science, already adapted for the idiosyncracies of placekicking.
I don't at all. I've seen him win enough games with clutch kicks. It was great to seem him dejected for a change and knowing he's costing them the game.
Can you make a video on the regression of McPherson over the past season and a half? I felt like dude was automatic in 21 and 22, but has fallen off since then
it becomes even more glaring when the steelers won the whole game off the back of 6 boswell FGs
Just like week 1
got me 24 fantasy points and the win so im happy
Placekicking is the most mediocre aspect of football….other than the officiating. It needs to be done away with.
@@newagain9964 it puts the foot in football though.
@@FreedomForMaryland 🙄🤦.
Missing multiple FGA combined with 12 penalties for 80 yards and multiple turnovers is how you lose to a team that couldn't score a touchdown all game.
Offense and special teams looked like they skipped practice for the past couple of weeks.
That part!!!!!
Agree with first comment plus…
Hidden yards is killing the Ravens too. The Steelers wanted them to return the ball from kickoffs. Only once can I recall the return making it back to the 30 and even then I think it got taken back 10 yards for a block in the back. They’re constantly starting drives from within their own 30 if not their own 20. Add on the Oline penalties and the ravens have to out gain their opponent by ~100 yards a game OR win the turnover battle. Against a good defence like the Steelers that’s tough.
@@JunctionWatcher I think that as we get more experience and history on the new kickoff rule you might see special teams coaches feel more comfortable kicking the ball down to the 0 - 5 yard line and the coverage team keeping the returner from getting even to the 20. So far I think the head coaches are just trying to keep another variable out of the game, as they are afraid of a game breaking 99 yard return.
he loses field goals? our punter bass, misses extra points regularly and when he does get them barely makes them........but hey he made ONE 66 yarder so i guess his job is secured this season 🙄 hes gonna cost us the damn playoffs just for us to learn and this isnour best year
its always sad to see a legend fade
The fact is… Justine Tucker is one of the weakest players ever
He literally allowed Kelsey to be the reason why he won’t make the Hall of Fame. He allowed that one incident to totally change the trajectory of his NFL career.
Kelsey got his head one time last year and Tucker he was never the same. He’s weak.
And not a Hall of Famer. Or a legend
@@Thesinfultruth shut up
@@Thesinfultruthhe’s at worst 2nd ballot HOF. Ur just a troll.
@@Thesinfultruth that was hilarious but Justin as been ~90% for 12+? Years that's HoF level play for sure
Looks more like he's got a draw issue if you ask me. *ba-dum tshhh*
Tucker's only 34. Chris Boswell, 33, was 6/6 today and has had two bad seasons in his career (65% and 71%) and bounced back both times. Tucker is at 72% currently after today's bad performance. Not impossible to shake off, but a reset needs to happen somehow.
Tucker needs to stop eating so much Royal Farms' chicken!!!
I said to my friend, the Bills and Ravens should swap kickers. I feel like this is going to be somewhat like the Goff/Stafford situation where they both just need a change of scenery. Both have been darn near automatic in the past and both are all aboard the struggle bus right now
@JKSSubstandard id be so unbelievably livid if they did that. Tucker will be fine and he'll be back at the top in no time. Barring injury or abrubt retirement lmao. Hes a ravens legend and he will have the well earned extended leash before any change is made.
@@JKSSubstandardbass has been struggling with 50+ before this season
A similar feeling as an eagles fan. Elliott has been okay this year, but he missed 2 field goals and an extra point with a perfect hold on Thursday against Washington. Definitely keeping him around, but frustrating.
Hey, at least you know Elliot has been a top kicker. As a bills fan, Bass has never been good but our gm loves to keep him around.
nah just something in the air for kickers recently. Lots of missed kicks in the past few weeks.
And he has missed a couple of others you expect him to make recently as well. Last year he was incredible from outside the 50, this year he's 0-4
all kickers have bad days
Same now with the Bengals and McPherson.
Elliot, McPherson, and Tucker were all deadly weapons for their teams and now that they’re regressing the teams are paying for it
As a Ravens fan, I'm REALLY worried Tucker's gonna go out the way Billy Cundiff did and cost us a playoff game.
Chillll
Ravens fans blaming this game on 2 FG attempts from the 1st quarter is exactly why they’re the Ravens and will never win anything
@@matrixphijr it was the reason tho lmao
@@Airi_Iwinif we make it to the playoffs😂
@@Muten_Ison98 man chilll 🤣🤣
Jake Bates vs Aubrey era has started
Umm buddy Chris Boswell exists and has now won two games for the Steelers off his FGs alone
@crimsonchin8916 Boswell is good but that’s not a great argument, he had to kick so many FGs cos Russell Wilson is washed and couldn’t ever put the ball in the endzone. Bates doesn’t need to kick 6 FGs to win, he lets Goff blow out opponents and eventually get a walk off FG when needed. Bates >
@@crimsonchin8916Boswell is NOT as good as Aubrey. And I’m an eagles fan🙏😭
@ Chris Boswell is the most accurate kicker of all time from 50+ yards and has missed 1 kick all season which was a desperate 60+ yarder in Pittsburgh
@ buddy Chris Boswell is the most accurate kicker OF ALL TIME from 50+yards. Google it if ur not sure. And has missed one kick all year. Not to mention Chris Boswell does this at home in Pittsburgh. No other kicker could do what he does in the environment he does it in.
If anything at the very least the whole FG unit and process needs to be looked at and analyzed. Timing and position are huge for kickers and it still bothers me that Tuckers stats started to take a dive once Jordan Stout started to hold.
I agree, but they also can't let past performance absolve him any blame moving forward. Correlation is not always causation, like ice cream truck sales causing murder rates to increase. Stout may be the problem or it could just coincide with a tucker decline. What kills me is no changes to any 3 pieces of the operation have been changed, we just keep banging our heads on the wall hoping it won't hurt next time. Pitt IRed boswell in his down year and if we won't do that they need to look at other LSers and holders
@@godc5073 I wonder if both may be true. He was already starting a decline, his subconsious noticed any change, even one(s) that wouldn't impact his kicking otherwise made by the holder and now it's the yips in a way
“Yes I know I know blessed but sometimes I wish I could go back” ahh moment 💀😭🙏
bro messed up the lyric
Ha! goodness me Pete b8n that is so funny! You really got everyone else out here laughing as well! You really should think about going into the comedy business!
Evan MacPherson has missed 6 field goals this season. It really is seeming like something is going on with the kicking balls in the NFL this year. There’s too many good kickers having a bad season to be a coincidence.
McPherson was never good. Overhyped solely because he watched a Super Bowl halftime show once.
What about these dudes nailing over 60 yards? How do you explain that
@@frederikbrandt424a rookie kicker that scored them more points in the post season and sent them to the SB, yeah not good
There can be only one reason:
Tucker has finally given in and started living that rock star lifestyle that opera singers are renowned for
tucker the goat but at some point players will become washed.
It’s just unfortunate his fall off is the year they added great pieces like d.henry…
He’s not the goat.
If you fall off at 34 then you’re not the goat. The actual goat kickers played well into their 40’s
@@tony4534 definitely the goat
@@lamariselite729definitely not.
Funny that Russel Wilson is playing well… I guess Justin Tucker shouldn’t have made fun of him.
Still super weird to see such a rapid falloff from an elite player like that. Like, granted I don't really track Kicker career trajectories, but I feel like I normally see distance start to fade and the accuracy stays til they retire.
My wife asked me if there were dishes still in the sink and I just looked at her, smiled, and said "Justin Tucker."
She smiled back. She knew they were washed.
You sir won the internet today.
@@thetheoryofeverything7129 Washed is slang for washed up, which itself is slang for saying a player, who was once good, is no longer good, usually not even decent. This joke, which has been popular in sports, and especially NFL, comment sections for a while now, plays on this. Each time its used, the commenter uses the same premise, but switches in the name of the player who they are indicating is "washed". The implication of this common joke is that the wife knows the player is washed, and thus the husband is telling her that there are no dishes in the sink because they've all been washed.
Lmfao brutal
@@thetheoryofeverything7129 Lmao how could you not understand that??
@@The_Bad_Guy. Maybe they're not American? Or they could be young. Either way, there's nothing wrong with asking a question if you don't understand something.
Came straight to your channel to see what’s up cause I had a feeling you’d be on this. Always enjoy your analysis on kicking and your content in general, brother. Please keep up the great work
Is the hold supposed to lean away from him? The two he missed were leaning towards the holder, but the one he made looked more vertical.
Jesus. He's the "best ever". Make it anyway!
@@SelectCircle You can't just do that. There's something called a sweet spot of the ball that the middle of your foot needs to hit to kick it straight and powerfully. Having the ball leaning the wrong way, or even straight up takes away the sweet spot, making your kicks less powerful and MUCH less accurate. (I'm a football kicker/punter and rugby player who also punts and kicks btw)
What about all the FGs and xp he’s missed this season? Anyways. Place kicking is F stoopid🤷♂️
@@sclice8680 Yeah yeah. And you can't pull an outside pitch. Unless you're Barry Bonds. If Tucker ain't Tucker anymore - then to hell with him. What you are is a mediocre kicker. Is there any comparing me to Barry Bonds? Give it up - Tucker's toast.
@SelectCircle no no, Tucker did fall off. I was just saying that having the ball leaning towards the side makes you ineffective. That isn't his problem though, his form is just falling apart and he's getting too old
It's the fault of Ian Eagle, the announcer who called the game on CBS! Before his first FG attempt: "The most accurate kicker in NFL history." Miss. Before his second FG attempt: "He has been Mister Automatic throughout his career." Miss. Double jinx!!
I would really like a deep dive on "the commentators curse". Is it real or is it just we notice when their predictions are oh so wrong?
@@grogery1570 Of course it isn't real. When an announcer says, "he has made 25 straight kicks," or something like that, and the kicker misses, what we don't see is that the announcer also mentioned his streak at 24, at 23, etc.
@chesscomsupport8689 its definitely just confirmation bias, but sometimes its fun to imagine it is real. now the Madden curse, that one might actually be real.
I swear me and my wife said the same thing I’m Steelers fan but that was crazy how right when the commentator said something both times he miss
Rodgers and Tucker going band for band in the washed competition. Father time is undefeated
It's weird looking at Rodgers stats. They aren't even like....putrid or anything.
They....they are actually better then Mahomes this year lol
This is a surreal fucking experience every player that I grew up watching (not named russel wilson or travis kelce) is either washed or retired
"Father time is undefeated"
I mean at this point, LeBron has not only defeated father time but feasted on his flesh afterwards like Cronus eating his children.
But I suppose father time is undefeated with all non- LeBron humans.
Chris Boswell who went 6/6, had a poor 2018 season. It happens to everyone. Justin Tucker will be fine.
McQueen never fades.
Boswell had a horrible season one year, fans were chanting for him to be fired. Now he is probably one of the most consistent kickers in the league and is single-handedly winning games. Sometimes you just show up to work a little off, and unfortunately for kickers their work is binary, they either make it or don't, making it much more obvious.
He was kicking with an injury that year
I always do find it amazing that no matter how good for how long a kicker is, that once they start screwing up their kicks even a little.... suddenly there is an intervention..... Talk about a position has to be literally the most perfect at their position than anyone else on the team.....
Best NFL Kicker convo
Tucker out, Aubrey in.
What else needs to be said?
I NEVER THOUGHT THIS DAY WOULD COME!!
As a philly fan I find comfort that it's not just my kicker going through this right now 😔
it hurts worse because of this huge kicking renaissance going on right now where it feels like all you hear about from TV talking heads is how every other kicker in the league is banging out 70 yard FGs and punts before breakfast. yes I am exaggerating because the loss to the Steelers yesterday still stings but it feels like younger kickers around the league are upping the game and starting a new era and we have the guy who was the GOAT of the previous era of kickers, who isn't what he used to be.
Look, I love Justin Tucker and everything he done for us...
I remember the 2010, 2011 runs we done with Billy Cundiff, and maybe, maybe we need to look for another option before option before the 2025 season...
The rivers cause a weird swirl of wind making it hard to kick when kicking towards the big Jumbotron but Boswell can do it fine
Tucker definitely lost this game for us. Sad, but true.
Lmao if the game comes down to your kicker in a game where the other team only scores 18, then you have bigger issues than field goals
Stout starts holding and Tucker's performance drops. That can't be overlooked.
I remember Boswell had a bad years (2018 and 2022) and PIT kept him and he bounced back and is fantastic now.
The NEW holder and Justin just are not clicking The old holder who retired was the best!
He’s the LEAST of their worries right now. Let’s fix the penalties first. They are killing us.
As a Steelers fan, I would not give up on Tucker. Those were long field goals and Heinz Field is a tough venue to play in. Even the best players have an off day
I don’t remember him ever missing field goals to this year. Crazy. And whenever I saw him kick them they were long field goals.
You never know what is going on behind closed doors. He could be dealing with a current injury or trying to heal from a previous one... 🤷♂️
The same thing was going on a couple years ago with Harrison Butker. It just takes time to heal...
He will be in the Hall of Frame. Must keep him.
Age comes for all of us eventujally. Even kickers
Ravens fans are way too quick to forgwt how many games you won JuST because of HIM.
Ravens had great kickers. Started with Stover on whom they relied far too much. Defense was great but offense bad and had to go on Stover’s kicks too much. With Tucker Flacco was in and finally getting decent offense, but yes they did have to rely on him too much still. Now it’s the opposite of 20 years ago. Bad defense, poor kicker, maybe.
Man, if there's a guy who deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's Tucker for all the killer kicks he's made over his career. But he's been bad enough that he's pulling them out of the division lead in a year where Lamar Jackson is looking likely to run away with MVP, and Derrick Henry could win OPOY alongside him. It's not a good look.
If you want to bury him, you could say he's had a downward trend the last 3 years, with even 2 years ago being the lowest completion percentage since his 3rd year in the league. But I'm not ready to do that yet. I don't know if it'd hurt his confidence more, but maybe you can say he's injured and give him the rest of the year and off-season to figure out and correct whatever is wrong. Most NFLers are dealing with some sort of nagging injury a lot of the time, and I'd imagine that's even true for kickers, so coming up with something shouldn't be hard. That could also help public perception of him if you say he's been battling that injury most of the year.
But that's probably dependent on finding another kicker who's better than Tucker has been this year, and given how many teams are using backup kickers at this point, I don't know what the remaining talent pool is. Although those backup kickers seem to be mostly handling business, so that bodes well.
Yes, Tucker could have won them the game yesterday, but it's the 92 penalties, more than eight PER GAME and ten more than the next most penalized team, that are killing them this season. The defense came around yesterday but it has been a liability during crucial games also.
I'm a Steelers fan. And I'd take Justin Tucker on my team any day. Wouldn't bench Boswell mind you.
Tuck has earned more slack than most kickers. We didn't lose that game because of him, but he sure didn't help. I hope he gets it figured out. It feels like a mental thing with him.
Definitely lost it because of him. He missed two fgs and they lost by 2 points. He did it against Browns and Raiders too. Tucker is finished bro
@@JohnSmith-n1m5yhe also missed against the chiefs
We need a Brett thorston tackle video in the tenn game. Possibly a game turning moment
As a die hard ravens fan, I love what he's done for us for over a decade, but I do think it may be time to move on from Tucker. Man needs to focus less or RoFo chicken and more on kicking. If he doesn't bounce back for the end of the season, I think it's time to part ways with him. I'm rooting for him, but he's gotta make some adjustments and quick.
Cool vid. Now do McPherson
kicking is 98% in your mind and He is dead inside but nobody is cutting tucker this year or next....period
Before I watch, what convo? He’s the greatest kicker of all time 🤷🏾♂️
The winds that swirl around the confluence of rivers near the open end of Heinz Field give visiting kickers fits. Boswell knows them best and is better able to compensate for them. I'm willing to give Tucker a mulligan on this one. No bias as I'm a Steelers fan and I dislike the Ravens.
As a ravens fan, I say we bring in a new kicker, but keep Tucker. Just in case. It’s possible it’s jsut a rough year. I still have faith in him.
He's the GOAT regardless, but man, he's just not the same anymore.
He is one of the many reasons we lost Sunday. It's unacceptable and hard to admit as a longtime Tucker fan, but it's time for him to go.
The better team won the game
And with that, FLORIDA GATOR Eddy Pineiro takes his place as the most accurate kicker in NFL history. Amazing for a guy who didn't even kick until college. (Just forget for now that McPherson is also a Florida Gator)
Justin didn't start missing until he got the Royal Farms commercials
In a year where it looks like it’s the Ravens year. The admired veteran might be their downfall. He I still solid but can’t make the long ones anymore, and coach will have to give him a shot at those because of his legendary history. Sad really
Before the seasom started, tucker said he was working with a different technique. Perhaps he should go back to the old one.
1:26 is so funny
He always takes such an aggressive angle and lean while he has been awesome for years does that translate well when you get older. Too early to tell I think but the older kickers with longevity have usually had a smooth simple kick. You don't hit from 66 though being simple! Different sport but Tiger Woods like. That swing was so unique and powerful in 20's/30's but tough to translate when 40.
All I know is whatever Pittsburgh is paying Boswell they need to pay him more. Him and TJ Watt single handedly be winning us games.
Tucker has really been missing Sam Koch as a holder.
Yet Boswell went 6-6. Go figure.
Man...I hate the Steelers.....
and the Ravens.
4 misses isn't the worst thing. It's when he starts missing badly on field goals under 30 yards that you should worry. And great kickers often have very long careers, so I doubt the Ravens would be quick to pull the plug on his time in Baltimore just yet.
Anyone blaming Tucker for these horrible holds is out of their minds
Even vanderjact was the most accurate kicker in history but then booze won.
It’s like Jenga. You can only ascend to great heights (have success) by destroying your base. That’s why so many athletes come from broken homes AND injure their legs, ankles, hips, etc… even on plays without contact. Look it Tyson. His bum knee aint because of age.
You just watch and see how Justin performs in relation to his family life.
WTF? This Dude was good from another Area Code!
All these pundits and commentators nobody’s talking about the fact that Tucker’s contract was restructured and he had to take a pay cut to make room for bigger salaries like that didn’t have anything to deal with his accuracy
You KEEP him. Everyone can have a bad year. He's been great for many years. Maybe he has an injury......who knows.
He is one of the best kickers in the league he just had an off day
The greatest kicker in history vs the greatest kicker of today
He's bailed them out so many more times than he's missed so he gets a pass.
Justin Tucker wasn't the only kicker on Sunday to miss multiple kicks. Evan McPherson missed two critical kicks.
Browns kicker missed 2 and an extra point. Falcons kicker missed all 3 last week.
@PoboyMusic All I know is that the best player for my fantasy opponent this week was Chris Boswell.
I believe the Steelers stadium is built near a river, causing a ton of wind, which causes kickers to miss
Dude the flags on the post werent moving like not at all.
It's because of the Steelers field there's more wind coming that way. The percent of people that make it in that stadium is very low
Honestly...if he loves and wants to play he should keep goin next yr. Mason Crosby went to have a historically bad yr out of nowhere one yr and then the next yr and going forward he was so gold. Kickers have slumps....it happens if he is a proven kicker...u just gotta ride the wave out.
If a field goal kicker “loses the game” then the team failed to secure a win. Blaming the kicker is manchild nonsense. Like the posturing of all the coaches shaking their heads like their offense didn’t fail to make a third down conversion and get further down the field.
But that's nonsense.
Teams play calling takes field goals into account. They would just go for it on 4th down if kickers didn't exist
Teams don't score a TD on the last drive of the game not because they can't, but because is strategic to run the clock and kick the FG.
It's manchild nonsense to expect offenses to score 9/10 possessions. Kickers have one job, there is zero excuse not to kick 9/10. 😂🤡
This is so sad to watch.
It’s funny to me that there are elite athletes who go from GOAT one day and eventually they lose that status. Streaks are meant to end. Eventually you lose that title. People aren’t infallible.
To be honest, there was signs of this the past few years.
I think it started against the Saints on a PAT
Maybe an overreaction. He’s missed 4 total FG’s this year 3 of those from 50-59 yards. I think he’ll be fine 🤷🏻♂️
Not sure where you got those numbers from, he's had 2 sub 50 yard field goal misses this year
No it is not time to have this conversation 😂 he will be just fine. You just wanted to post a video
I haven't been watching all session, but the Steelers stadium is hard to kick in. It has the highest amount of misses out of every stadium.
I know he's used to kicking there, but doesn't mean it's easy
as a bills fan........i think yall will be fine with him still.......
still one of the best of all time idc
It’s hard for me to notice because they never show a close up angle but I believe JT has stopped doing his little catholic prayer thing he use to do before every kick I’m Baptist idk what it was called.
If the Ravens cut Tucker, where are they going to get a better kicker to replace him?
Every player's career ends eventually, no matter how great they are.
Draft next year, there's some good college kickers.
get rid of him he's got one job and he cant do it at a pro level
You must be new if you haven't seen Justin Tucker before this year. You can't just let go of one of the greatest kickers of all time after a few down games. Give it some time, maybe a season or two, then the decision can be made.
@@vishnurayavarapu7850 You sound like the kind of guy who lets his pet die of cancer rather than euthanize it.
Well ya know, JT won plenty of games for the Ravens. Of course most fans have a pretty short memory.
Field goals leagewide seem hard this year
all of the kicking has suddenly gotten worse this year. is it possible it could be an equipment thing?
Hes merely an above average kicker now... hes still only missed 3 under 50 in 2 years. His range has absolutely dropped for the time being and we have to stick to 50 max for right now but I believe he will come back from this and ill laugh at all the doomers lmao he hasnt even been missing by alot, he basically grazed the uprights on 2 of his last 3 misses. Yes its a concern, but struggles happen and you gotta keep the faith in the man.
I'll think he just had a bad day. I don't blame him for the loss. The golden boy with the hurt leg trying to run the ball for a two point conversion is at fault.
bad year ** casual
I thought the Steelers red zone offense was bummy but it was actually Tucker, he lost them the game.
Someone said on Reddit that Tucker had mentioned on a podcast that a change to his technique to generate more power a few years back really took a toll on his body. Any truth to that? I remember McAfee saying he flat out can't kick a ball anymore, he's so busted.
The issue is.. your previous seasons don't matter when it's mechanics. He has an issue with mechanics. He could be done with being the best kicker in nfl history and never kick another season.
Love your vids, move the mic further from your mouth it will sound better
Looking at the stats table you showed at 1:35 - it actually isn't that bad. Yeah, he's currently at his lowest percentage ever, but it's entirely due to misses from long range. He was actually worse last year from 50+ than he has been so far this year (and comparably bad in 2014 and 2015), it's just he kicked more FGs from shorter range in those years. He's not performing at the elite level that he often has in the past, but there's still plenty of games left for him to avoid this being his worst year ever.
But realistically, there's no difference between a 45 yard FG and a 50 yard FG for kickers in 2024
55+ is when it gets different.
They're all missing for the exact same reason to the same degree. Something something Tyler Bass on Opposite Day. His current mechanics are the manifestation of precision without accuracy. A single tweak, however slight, could fix all of this. Obviously, I'm not a kicking coach, so I can't tell you what he'd need to do, but even just aiming a bit to the right might fix the problem in the short term. For something more sustainable, the technology to analyze and alter mechanics to get the optimal rotation and placement exists; we've seen it in baseball (and, I'm guessing, probably golf) for years now. It's just a matter of unlearning whatever habit created this change. There's so much potential money in this that *someone* has to have the answers. Hell, it's probably down to an exact science, already adapted for the idiosyncracies of placekicking.
my coping mechanism yesterday was telling people that this is because missed holds... can we delete this video please 🤣😂
As a Steelers fan even I felt kinda bad when he missed the second one lol
I don't at all. I've seen him win enough games with clutch kicks. It was great to seem him dejected for a change and knowing he's costing them the game.
Can you make a video on the regression of McPherson over the past season and a half? I felt like dude was automatic in 21 and 22, but has fallen off since then