Yea, but he does fight like Yoda does. In fact, if I had to say that when Kyle is fighting Pic all by himself, it would probably look alot like the duel between Count Dooku and Yoda!
MrJesusPerson The music I used was taken from other RUclips videos. I basically Googled "Star Wars Remixes" and got new versions of the Cantina Theme, Imperial March, etc.
***** ahh. I was playing through this game again and I was downloading one of the mods you used but I goofed something up now I can't even get the game to turn on. :( my brother had it working until I tried to put the mod in and did something I was supposed to. So now I am watching your walkthrough again :) I can't wait to see what other star wars games you do in the future.
Gorc's lightsaber is actually called a lightclub. Much like how the lightsaber shoto suits Yoda's small stature, the lightclub is used by large muscle-bound Force-sensitives like Gorc.
Pic and Gorc are called "Brothers of the Sith" because they are Sithspawn, a product of Sith alchemy. They are classified as dark jedi because they were not instructed in the Sith teachings.
Another thing that separates Dark Jedi from Sith is that while they use the dark side, they do not have eyes set on a bigger goal or picture. They just want to satisfy their own desires and they also do not let the Dark Side consume them 2 as much of a degree as a Sith.
I've found the strategy to this level to be jumping to the platform immediately at the start. Gork will follow you but Pic will get stuck where they spawn. Run around Gork and hit him with your regular attack, he should die in around 10 hits. Pic is very easy if you use your secondary attack, it will block his attack and kill him in 2-3 hits.
Idk if you know but if you sit up in the far right corners of that larger area, Gork will keep falling down and hurting himself and will eventually die on his own. It’s weird.
Pic actually had a lightsabre belonging to Yoda, a 'lightsabre shoto', designed for either use in the off hand or for those species so small a normal lightsabre would just be too big for them
This battle gave me so much trouble as a kid, I never understood to use force see when he turned invisible. This was one of the more challenging boss battles in the game for me. I was also never smart enough to separate them.
I dont know why but when I played this way back in the day as a kid I could never beat pik, he just kept blocking my hits, only way I beat him was with a glitch I climbed on the side ledge and he would force jump at me repeatedly untill he died from fall damage lol
I'm definitely glad you won't be stopping. And yeah, I was just curious because if I have it my way, Let's playing will become my job and I won't have to stop. That's the dream anyway. :)
Pic is way weaker in the force, much less trained to be precise in Force Telekinetics, much much younger, unnatural, and is reliant on his force bond with Gorc. Yoda is an Ataru master. Pic is probably/seemingly a Niman practitioner.
An efficient macro strategy I've found for the aftermath is to simply avoid all "core" abilities altogether for the next couple of levels, and only keep neutral powers, while also stockpiling force stars such that I always have at least four of them unused. Then I keep a manual alternate save at the end of stage 13, just before getting onto the final elevator. Doing this allows you to choose which side of the Force you want for the final third of the game by putting four stars onto one side or the other, accessing either side's ultimate ability as well, without having to redo the entire game a second time if you want to play both.
just like you said, the thing is to keep those two apart. took me around ten tries to beat those guys on Hard and by that time i had succeeded in killing either of them separately so getting down the strategy was fairly easy. just by the way, is it just me or it's harder to beat the last man standing, whichever it might be? anyway, here are some tips i got for anyone who might get stuck on those two: 1) immediately after getting control of Kyle, back out and go to the left, there is a narrow space between the platform and the wall you can use to descend downstairs without taking damage (the way LBF did this works too, naturally, but i get the feeling it might prove a bit too difficult for the less experienced) 2) if you do that, chances are only one will come after you (most likely Pic) and if you play on Hard i seriously doubt you can take those two at the same time (unless you're a JK pro like LightningBolt that is) 3) it's better to fight them downstairs so once you're done with the first guy get back up and try to lure the other one to jump down as well (you're gonna have enough things to keep you occupied without worrying about falling off the platform) 4) Pic takes about 15-17 hits on Hard (he'll squeak when you cut him). the key is to keep walking around but don't make the circle too big or else he'll start jumping. use Force Seeing when he turns invisible if you have it; if not, just run around the room until he turns back to normal, he won't catch up with you as long as you keep running. just let him run (not jump!) over to you, then quickly walk away, hack at him, get the hell away and again. your route should look like a really twisted circle. repeat this about 30 times and he'll go down (he'll be able to deflect your every second hit or so but with no harm done to you). during this time Gorc will most likely not bother you two for some reason (the same generally holds true for Pic if it's Gorc you fight first) 5) Gorc takes about as many hits but is much slower than Pic. whatever you do, DON'T STAY IN HIS FIELD OF VISION for more than a couple seconds or he'll Force Grip the shit out of your health. whenever you see him raise his hand, run, jump, whatever, just keep moving. other than that, keep running around him and cutting with your lightsaber. fortunately, he's a big target so shouldn't take you even a third of the time it takes to beat Pic. try not to be too fast though or else you'll end up in the scope of his bigass lightsaber. when he turns off his weapon it means he's a goner (so you know you can immediately focus your attention onto Pic in case you haven't beaten him yet) good luck! i actually like this fight way more than i did the one with Yun, even though it's more challenging. mostly because with Yun there's always this goddamned Force Blinding and you don't have Force Seeing at this point so it's five seconds of fighting, then twenty seconds of running around like a crazy person. this fight is way more dynamic and cool. but damn, i used up all five of my bacta tanks to beat them (got those at the top after the fight but still). i don't even want to think about fighting Maw...
The Steam version should work on Win7, I think. I have Mysteries of the Sith on Steam and it seems to run just fine, provided it runs with the original 8-bit graphics.
I had trouble with this as a kid but I found a way to cheese it. There's a spot in the corner of the top level that you can reach with a force jump. It's like a 45 degree slope. Once you get up there, the bosses try to force jump up to you, but keep falling down. They eventually die from taking fall damage lol.
there was a rumor that Pic's lightsaber belonged to Yoda, Luke Skywalker sent someone to retrieve it after Pic's death. But this information is unknown at this point.
Just played this and both of them were much harder for me to kill than in your video (I'm playing on medium). I used the same tactic was with Yun; Run past them and swipe with the saber as I pass, then turn around and make another pass. Each would make a noise when I hit them and it seemed to take quite a few hits to kill each one. I got lucky with Gorc's force grip a few times. I saw him raise his hand while I was more or less in front of him, but it didn't connect.
Ok something funny happened with me (with these guys). I was dueling Gorc (took out the fatass as per strategy) then once I killed Gorc, I went to duel Pic, got under the platform (on the bottom) and Pic just... sort of got stuck. This happened after me trying to rip him a new hole like 20 times but he just stood there. Under the platform near the vent thing that brings you back up he just wouldn't move. So I just whacked away till he died. He didn't even jump back and counterattack. Just outright froze and glitched. Won me the battle though. Just thought this was amusing if anyone else had it
What is really weird is that you do not earn any stars when fighting dark Jedi. If anything, this should earn you one or two stars at least. What has finding secret areas to do with using the force? It would even make more sense to earn stars for actually making a lot of use of your new force powers and the light saber. Let’s say, for example, that you earn a star for using your LightSaber to defeat most of the enemies or something like that.
+Console generic thug actually, i don't know if i like Gorc & Pic that much... i mean they have a cool design but just a bit on the cartoonish side (you know, a big Silent Bob and his little smartass companion), i don't know if they really fit the Star Wars climate. but it may just be me...
I'll never stop making videos, Granted I do take breaks now and then, but still. And what do you mean what do I wanna do? My plans are going to college and then having a career in engineering, writing, or music, if that's what you meant. Yeah, I know, quite the contrary options. But hey, that's me! =D
This is my theory as to what a dark Jedi is: they're Jedi who have gone to the dark side but owing no alligence to neither Jedi or Sith, or they're dark siders who have had no Sith training.
I think I got lucky in this battle. The thing that can really be difficult is when Gorc uses Force Grip, making it impossible to move. And since Kyle can't move, that gives Pic a chance to swing on in and kill Kyle before he even has a chance to retaliate. But thank you though! =)
That just makes me wonder why George Lucas would do that. It's been killing fans everywhere who really want to know what species Yoda is. But yeah, that creature in Jabba's palace. I think that thing's name was Salacious Crumb (thank you Star Wars Wiki). But anyway, if anything, Yoda is probably a species relative to the Kowakian monkey-lizard. I guess we'll never find out...
Wtf I've been stuck here for more than 2 hours! How did you killed them so easily?! I tried lightsaber (hit/run) and emptied all my ammo on these bastards and they won't die :(
I'm running this on Windows 7. I could not, for the life of me, figure out how to run it for the longest time on Win7, but I eventually found out after watching a tutorial. It's pretty good. If you want you can watch it here: /watch?v=OcpICJI40iQ
This doesn't help me at all. I can't hit the little shit for the life of me, and every time I get close, he hits me, and kills me in 3 hits. Last I checked, my lightsaber didn't protect me from explosives, so where the hell do these assholes get off being immune to my biggest guns? Such a bullshit battle. You aren't even playing the same version I have; the graphics are different and the hud design too. You're probably playing on easy? Not a jab, I just counted how many hits it took to kill Gorg, and I know I managed to get a few on Pic and he still wouldn't die.
At one point I thought, Pic was of Yoda's species. But in reality he is just a mutated Kowakian monkey-lizard.
That's what I thought, too, especially when I first saw him here.
Yea, but he does fight like Yoda does. In fact, if I had to say that when Kyle is fighting Pic all by himself, it would probably look alot like the duel between Count Dooku and Yoda!
***** where did you get or find the music you use at the end of your videos?
MrJesusPerson The music I used was taken from other RUclips videos. I basically Googled "Star Wars Remixes" and got new versions of the Cantina Theme, Imperial March, etc.
***** ahh. I was playing through this game again and I was downloading one of the mods you used but I goofed something up now I can't even get the game to turn on. :( my brother had it working until I tried to put the mod in and did something I was supposed to. So now I am watching your walkthrough again :) I can't wait to see what other star wars games you do in the future.
Gorc's lightsaber is actually called a lightclub. Much like how the lightsaber shoto suits Yoda's small stature, the lightclub is used by large muscle-bound Force-sensitives like Gorc.
Pic and Gorc are called "Brothers of the Sith" because they are Sithspawn, a product of Sith alchemy. They are classified as dark jedi because they were not instructed in the Sith teachings.
Another thing that separates Dark Jedi from Sith is that while they use the dark side, they do not have eyes set on a bigger goal or picture. They just want to satisfy their own desires and they also do not let the Dark Side consume them 2 as much of a degree as a Sith.
@@mattgerrish908 that's kinda why I envy them more than Sith...
@evangriner411 Came here to say that.
I've found the strategy to this level to be jumping to the platform immediately at the start. Gork will follow you but Pic will get stuck where they spawn. Run around Gork and hit him with your regular attack, he should die in around 10 hits. Pic is very easy if you use your secondary attack, it will block his attack and kill him in 2-3 hits.
I liked this boss fight. Very challenging yet quite easy to understand
Idk if you know but if you sit up in the far right corners of that larger area, Gork will keep falling down and hurting himself and will eventually die on his own. It’s weird.
Pic actually had a lightsabre belonging to Yoda, a 'lightsabre shoto', designed for either use in the off hand or for those species so small a normal lightsabre would just be too big for them
Fighting the little brother is like fighting Yoda in Soul Caliber. Too damn low to hit while he jumps on you.
Lovely, yes?
Our master is on its way to the Valley of the Jedi, as we speak...
Unfortunate, you would not be so lucky to experience!
This battle gave me so much trouble as a kid, I never understood to use force see when he turned invisible. This was one of the more challenging boss battles in the game for me. I was also never smart enough to separate them.
Cue Ornstein and Smough's theme.
ruclips.net/video/oX51T-EipOo/видео.html
^Play it while watching the duel lol
I dont know why but when I played this way back in the day as a kid I could never beat pik, he just kept blocking my hits, only way I beat him was with a glitch I climbed on the side ledge and he would force jump at me repeatedly untill he died from fall damage lol
yea this is childhood game bro
I'm definitely glad you won't be stopping. And yeah, I was just curious because if I have it my way, Let's playing will become my job and I won't have to stop. That's the dream anyway. :)
You make it look so easy! I played this game obsessively as a kid and I never could do these guys without an invincibility cheat :)
Same here, except I didn't have any cheats, so I never got past this part of the game.
Pretty sure he's playing on Easy. I just played this fight and they both took many times more hits.
0:16 I wonder what music is this? I couldnt find it
Pic is like a dark side yoda. Small and drops a lot during battles
That's what I said. It's like fighting a dark-sided Yoda!
Pic is way weaker in the force, much less trained to be precise in Force Telekinetics, much much younger, unnatural, and is reliant on his force bond with Gorc.
Yoda is an Ataru master.
Pic is probably/seemingly a Niman practitioner.
why do they remind me of Master Blaster? :P
+BleachFan2007 Oh wow, I never thought of it like that. It's almost the exact same dynamic.
Smol boi and big boi? Figured that was the idea.
It's so awkward that the default audio setting meant you could never hear the guy's narration.
That is just a bug in this relatively low-effort remaster. The original didn't have such problems.
Two Dark Jedi at once! But you made it look so easy!
0:30 Kyle; WHAT?! I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE LOUD BGM!
Oh, okay. Well, cool! And yeah, having Let's Playing as a job would just be awesome. I'd love doing that.
An efficient macro strategy I've found for the aftermath is to simply avoid all "core" abilities altogether for the next couple of levels, and only keep neutral powers, while also stockpiling force stars such that I always have at least four of them unused. Then I keep a manual alternate save at the end of stage 13, just before getting onto the final elevator.
Doing this allows you to choose which side of the Force you want for the final third of the game by putting four stars onto one side or the other, accessing either side's ultimate ability as well, without having to redo the entire game a second time if you want to play both.
this is useful tip, i'll keep it in mind now, thanks!
Lightsaber battles is always fun! Pic remembers me a Dark Jedi version of Yoda, lol. Anyway, nice job beating them.
just like you said, the thing is to keep those two apart. took me around ten tries to beat those guys on Hard and by that time i had succeeded in killing either of them separately so getting down the strategy was fairly easy. just by the way, is it just me or it's harder to beat the last man standing, whichever it might be? anyway, here are some tips i got for anyone who might get stuck on those two:
1) immediately after getting control of Kyle, back out and go to the left, there is a narrow space between the platform and the wall you can use to descend downstairs without taking damage (the way LBF did this works too, naturally, but i get the feeling it might prove a bit too difficult for the less experienced)
2) if you do that, chances are only one will come after you (most likely Pic) and if you play on Hard i seriously doubt you can take those two at the same time (unless you're a JK pro like LightningBolt that is)
3) it's better to fight them downstairs so once you're done with the first guy get back up and try to lure the other one to jump down as well (you're gonna have enough things to keep you occupied without worrying about falling off the platform)
4) Pic takes about 15-17 hits on Hard (he'll squeak when you cut him). the key is to keep walking around but don't make the circle too big or else he'll start jumping. use Force Seeing when he turns invisible if you have it; if not, just run around the room until he turns back to normal, he won't catch up with you as long as you keep running. just let him run (not jump!) over to you, then quickly walk away, hack at him, get the hell away and again. your route should look like a really twisted circle. repeat this about 30 times and he'll go down (he'll be able to deflect your every second hit or so but with no harm done to you). during this time Gorc will most likely not bother you two for some reason (the same generally holds true for Pic if it's Gorc you fight first)
5) Gorc takes about as many hits but is much slower than Pic. whatever you do, DON'T STAY IN HIS FIELD OF VISION for more than a couple seconds or he'll Force Grip the shit out of your health. whenever you see him raise his hand, run, jump, whatever, just keep moving. other than that, keep running around him and cutting with your lightsaber. fortunately, he's a big target so shouldn't take you even a third of the time it takes to beat Pic. try not to be too fast though or else you'll end up in the scope of his bigass lightsaber. when he turns off his weapon it means he's a goner (so you know you can immediately focus your attention onto Pic in case you haven't beaten him yet)
good luck! i actually like this fight way more than i did the one with Yun, even though it's more challenging. mostly because with Yun there's always this goddamned Force Blinding and you don't have Force Seeing at this point so it's five seconds of fighting, then twenty seconds of running around like a crazy person. this fight is way more dynamic and cool. but damn, i used up all five of my bacta tanks to beat them (got those at the top after the fight but still). i don't even want to think about fighting Maw...
When pic's using force persuasion, or any dark Jedi for that matter, you can see a set of moving stars if you're not using force seeing.
I definitely will. In fact, I'm working on Level 12 right now!
The Steam version should work on Win7, I think. I have Mysteries of the Sith on Steam and it seems to run just fine, provided it runs with the original 8-bit graphics.
I had trouble with this as a kid but I found a way to cheese it. There's a spot in the corner of the top level that you can reach with a force jump. It's like a 45 degree slope. Once you get up there, the bosses try to force jump up to you, but keep falling down. They eventually die from taking fall damage lol.
there was a rumor that Pic's lightsaber belonged to Yoda, Luke Skywalker sent someone to retrieve it after Pic's death. But this information is unknown at this point.
Oh, this is the second lightsaber battle. The first was in Level 7. =)
Just played this and both of them were much harder for me to kill than in your video (I'm playing on medium). I used the same tactic was with Yun; Run past them and swipe with the saber as I pass, then turn around and make another pass. Each would make a noise when I hit them and it seemed to take quite a few hits to kill each one. I got lucky with Gorc's force grip a few times. I saw him raise his hand while I was more or less in front of him, but it didn't connect.
Ok something funny happened with me (with these guys). I was dueling Gorc (took out the fatass as per strategy) then once I killed Gorc, I went to duel Pic, got under the platform (on the bottom) and Pic just... sort of got stuck. This happened after me trying to rip him a new hole like 20 times but he just stood there. Under the platform near the vent thing that brings you back up he just wouldn't move. So I just whacked away till he died. He didn't even jump back and counterattack. Just outright froze and glitched. Won me the battle though. Just thought this was amusing if anyone else had it
This must be where they got the inspiration for Ornstein and Smough...
Thank man ❤️
Pic was so hard lol
Please continue the series! I red help on this!
What is really weird is that you do not earn any stars when fighting dark Jedi. If anything, this should earn you one or two stars at least. What has finding secret areas to do with using the force? It would even make more sense to earn stars for actually making a lot of use of your new force powers and the light saber. Let’s say, for example, that you earn a star for using your LightSaber to defeat most of the enemies or something like that.
two creative enemies ..could have been in some of those movies ...
+Console generic thug actually, i don't know if i like Gorc & Pic that much... i mean they have a cool design but just a bit on the cartoonish side (you know, a big Silent Bob and his little smartass companion), i don't know if they really fit the Star Wars climate. but it may just be me...
I'll never stop making videos, Granted I do take breaks now and then, but still. And what do you mean what do I wanna do? My plans are going to college and then having a career in engineering, writing, or music, if that's what you meant. Yeah, I know, quite the contrary options. But hey, that's me! =D
Against the brothers I usually spam concussion rifle shots.
Asterix and Obelix
Orange lightsabers? These guys don't look like negotiators.
GG 😎👍
This is my theory as to what a dark Jedi is: they're Jedi who have gone to the dark side but owing no alligence to neither Jedi or Sith, or they're dark siders who have had no Sith training.
That's not a theory bro 😂
That's actually what they are 🤣
is this for pc? my PC version of dark forces 2 doesn't look at good as this :/?
tom windley He installed a mod
For some reason that little shit won't die!Like it's with infinite health
I think I got lucky in this battle. The thing that can really be difficult is when Gorc uses Force Grip, making it impossible to move. And since Kyle can't move, that gives Pic a chance to swing on in and kill Kyle before he even has a chance to retaliate. But thank you though! =)
LightningBoltForever
They were both difficult, I agree, but these two, Maw and Sariss are my favorite boss battles, despite their toughness.
How long do you plan on making videos? And what do you wish to do with your life? (Unless if course it's a secret.)
That just makes me wonder why George Lucas would do that. It's been killing fans everywhere who really want to know what species Yoda is. But yeah, that creature in Jabba's palace. I think that thing's name was Salacious Crumb (thank you Star Wars Wiki). But anyway, if anything, Yoda is probably a species relative to the Kowakian monkey-lizard. I guess we'll never find out...
Wtf I've been stuck here for more than 2 hours! How did you killed them so easily?! I tried lightsaber (hit/run) and emptied all my ammo on these bastards and they won't die :(
I beat them on the third try.
They are challenging but fun to beat
HOW did you DO that! I keep DYING. I can kill Gorc easy but Pic is just slicing and dicing me!
You need to look down in order to beat Pic, because Pic is too small to hit.
how you kill'em of two hits O_o
i got stuck around this part
These two remind me of the Brothers GF from Final Fantasy VII
uh oh. Double Trouble
Hang on, I'll send a message your way.
I'm running this on Windows 7. I could not, for the life of me, figure out how to run it for the longest time on Win7, but I eventually found out after watching a tutorial. It's pretty good. If you want you can watch it here: /watch?v=OcpICJI40iQ
Kylan kartar is manber of jide luke skywalker concil
This doesn't help me at all. I can't hit the little shit for the life of me, and every time I get close, he hits me, and kills me in 3 hits. Last I checked, my lightsaber didn't protect me from explosives, so where the hell do these assholes get off being immune to my biggest guns? Such a bullshit battle. You aren't even playing the same version I have; the graphics are different and the hud design too. You're probably playing on easy? Not a jab, I just counted how many hits it took to kill Gorg, and I know I managed to get a few on Pic and he still wouldn't die.
Needs better graphics nothing else
The original ornstein and smough