I had watched 5 VOR videos before finding this one. This one is BY FAR the beast and explained it much better than did the other 5 combined. Thank you.
Thank you for this training method! I am self studying for my Private Pilot and just started learning about VOR. You're method made it so simple to learn and apply. I also loved your multiple step by step examples. I was a physics tutor in college and found that this was the best way to familiarize students with new topics. Thanks again! I'm glad I found your channel!
Concepts presented in this video for understanding VOR positions to the airplane are great. I'll use and recommend them as they are simple and easier to use. For those studying for the Private Pilot test be warned - the FAA has since changed the answers to the Allendale Savannah question at 12:37. I would like to point out that in Gian's video there is a discrepancy on the drawing of the Savannah vector. Why is he using the 330 radial from Savannah VOR? He should be using the 320 degree radial as stated in the question. Using 320 would put the intersection exactly 2 NM's East of Marlow which doesn't agree with the FAA's correct answer B) the town of Springfield. Using 330, as done in the video, would put the intersection near Guyton (not Springfield). Why is there this discrepancy? It appears Gian is using a newer version of the map for an obviously older FAA test question? In my 2011 edition of the Jeppeson test guide, the question and three answer choices DO match those mentioned in the video here. Using the corresponding map (2004) that came with the 2011 Jeppeson guide shows the Savannah VOR in a different location (about 5 miles ENE of the Airport). The intersection using this map is less than 1NM West of Springfield (therefore matches the correct answer B for this older edition). Again please note that the FAA has since changed the answers to this question. According the ASA 2019 edition test prep guide the new answer choices are now A) Southeast of Guyton B) The town of Springfield and C) Over Briggs airport, with the correct answer being A) Southeast of Guyton. My calculations using the 2018 edition map in the Airman Knowledge Testing Supplement that came with this 2019 ASA guide OR a current map (from today via SkyVector), my calculations show that the VOR intersection is 2 miles East of Marlow. That would make answer A) Southeast of Guyton, correct. Bottom line is care must be taken as to which map edition of the Airman Knowledge Testing Supplement is used with the test question. It appears the Savannah VOR location has changed position since then.
Ed Heyman Our software is updated continuously to reflect FAA changes (BTW updates are free for life not like our competitors who charge you for them), but RUclips videos cannot be updated without removing the old video and therefore deleting it’s history, likes and comments. The software has been since updated to reflect every change you mentioned. passfaaexams.com/
At 8:54, the correct answer is not listed. According to answer C. 6. the VOR would be southeast, which is wrong. In X-Plane 11 (flight sim), I started on the Cooperstown runway and tuned to the Jamestown (KJMS) VOR. With bearing set to 030, the needle is deflected left, indicating the VOR is southwest, which is correct.
22:10 seems completely wrong. The needle is originally pointing to 168 whereas for the animated parts it magically jumps to around 195. Quite obviously, if we're northwest from the station and head southwest, the station will be even farther to the west. Well, to start with, the question mentions illustration 2 and we're presented with illustration 1. That might explain things. As an aviation enthusiast, I really like your videos, but this one didn't quite live up to the expectations.
For the question at 11:31, my answer was 3 miles east-southeast of Marlow, where answer C is the best fit. In X-Plane 11, I took off from KSAV in the Cessna Skyhawk and I followed radial 320 (using VOR#2 tuned to SAV VORTAC). Meanwhile, on the Garmin 530 GPS, I used VOR#1 to watch the changing Allendale radial. When I hit radial 184 on VOR#1, I paused the sim and checked my position. I was above the FAPLI waypoint (32°15'12.71"N, 81°20'58.78"W) about 2.6 miles east-southeast of Marlow. For some reason, Marlow is not displayed prominently on Google Maps, but a good landmark is Marlow United Methodist Church.
Keep in mind that these FAA charts for the test are actually fairly old and the Magnetic North location has since changed so comparing todays data to these old charts will not work for most of them.
@@GianLucaNoia Good point about the charts and magnetic north changing over time. In 2009, KSAV runway 9/27 was renamed to 10/28 to stay aligned with magnetic north. According to the KSAV Airport Diagram, the annual rate of change is 0.1°W, not much over the short term. I get the same answer with today's chart and the original chart in the video at 11:38 (Marlow is marked but not labelled).
Am I crazy or is the stated conclusion on the example that starts around 5:45 just wrong? The needle is *very nearly centered* in that example, so you must be in a location where flying the selected course takes you nearly to the station. I.e. you must be on a radial such that flying 210 is within just a few degrees of taking you to the VOR. If flying 210 (south-west) takes you to the station, you must be north-east of it. (Stated conclusion is that we are currently north-west of the VOR.)
For the magnetic heading 320 question...instead of drawing a new heading and moving the needle and all that, you can read the original figure that the heading is 225. But since it’s asking you for a heading of 320, you subtract 320 from the original 360. Gives you a difference of 40. Then take original 225-40= 185. I arrive at the same solution as you did without having to draw and move a needle. But that’s some easy math that helped me arrive at this answer
Exactly, really frustrating that part. "You don't wanna do math in an airplane when you are in a storm" .... ehm, but you DO want to draw a new heading and '''Move'''' the needle to the heading indicator?? HOW would you do that and HOW is that an easier solution.......??
This is a great and easy way to learn your instruments as they were meant to be used. It know makes more sense to me, what you have taught here, and I can practice more of this with FSX. Thanks, keep up the great work for all of us!!!
You are welcome Vic. Keep in mind that our full software uses the same teaching methods as intuitive as the system used in this video. Using our software will not only guarantee you will ace your written test but also greatly increase your know how and allow you to become a much safer pilot: passfaaexams.com/
At 13:48 in the video the needle is to the right on the gauge....wouldn't this mean the plane is "left of course". Meaning the plane is actually North West of the radial and not South East?
Without a To/ From flag, you cannot tell whether you are "left" or "right" off course. However, you can still tell if you are "East" or "West" of it. In this case, in order to fly towards the needle, you need to fly towards the W. So that must mean you're east of the VOR. Here is another version of this lesson I found more helpful as he states why the TO/FROM indicator dissappeared. It is because he was right on the radial exactly perpendicular to the one he wanted to go to. ruclips.net/video/5IGUUPijPNQ/видео.html
Here is a Free Full Chapter from our Private Pilot Interactive Test Prep Software. Radio Navigation and all the Test questions that relate to this topic explained with our incredibly simple methods: ruclips.net/video/h0Z_j9Xy6Cw/видео.html
Negative the instrument at 20:30 is not an ADF it's an RMI (a heading indicator with the ADF needle directly inside of it). The Needle inside the RMI points directly to the station which is in fact the Magnetic Bearing to the station.
Not to mention, GPS can be jammed, (so it doesn't work for you) or even worse, it can be spoofed (meaning your instrument will appear to be working correctly, but it will tell you bad information)
6:43 you say "the closest cardinal direction is South", but closed to what ? West is closest to the Flag. Can you give a little bit more explanation why you way S is closest to the Flag than W ? Thanks
@@GianLucaNoia Yes, you are right, i heard it again i understood it. In my mind i heard close to flag, maybe because on the previous example the flag is directly pointing to it. My bad ... Thanks again. Good thing about videos is that we can come and listen again and again until we understand it ;-)
Thank you ZJ. Finding ways to simplify aviation topics is the name of the game at Pilot Training Solutions. Try one of our free demos at: passfaaexams.com/free-demo-downloads/ and see how we can help you increase your test scores tenfold!
One thing I just can't understand when playing flight simulator is the following, VOR usually give you a straight line for you to follow, but some landing sites have multiple runways in different direction, are there multiple frequencies for each runway or you just have to guess which it is. if you could answer I would very much appreciate it.
@@GianLucaNoia So let's say you are trying to land under terrible weather, how know exactly where the runaway is so that you can start descending? Is there a way to know precisely where the runway is just by using ILS or the only way to land under terrible weather is using GPS ?
1:26 Suggestion for your graphic: Display the red wave as concentric rings expanding outward from the VOR, and the blue wave as rotating beam, like the beam of a lighthouse, rotating round and round, but always pointing north when the red wave is in phase zero, and south when the red wave is phase 180. Like a lighthouse with one flashing light, and one rotating beam, where the beam is always pointing north as the omnidirectional light flashes.
I do these calculations with my plotter and I place it on a piece of paper first I make it a fixed ADF 0 degrees ontop relative bearing I mark this on the paper, then I put the heading on top and read of the magnetic bearing (same place where u marked relative bearing)
Excellent explanation though as I followed along... On your triangulation question with VOR Allendale & VOR Savannah, GA.. I found that by using Google Earth and drawing vector lines from the Allendale airport at 184 deg and Savannah airport at the 320deg I found myself much closer to the town of Guyton leaving Springfield further North.... Again... Google vs Sky vector which has no vector tools.. Thanks.. Will
It appears that we can't show our monetized videos in Peru because of a RUclips policy. Keep in mind though that all these videos are extracts from our courses which you can purchase at passfaaexams.com/
Sorry but this is the most confusing method I ever seen. I learned VOR navigation in the 70s and it wasn’t even close to this method. This video is confusing for a new pilot.
After listening to numerous VOR basic lessons; your method should be the golden standard/best practice to teach Radio Naviation! THANK YOU for this!!!
Pyramyth Liu I disagree, the concept is Easy enough without trying to rewrite the concept in your mind. Terrible method.
I had watched 5 VOR videos before finding this one. This one is BY FAR the beast and explained it much better than did the other 5 combined. Thank you.
Thank you for this training method! I am self studying for my Private Pilot and just started learning about VOR. You're method made it so simple to learn and apply. I also loved your multiple step by step examples. I was a physics tutor in college and found that this was the best way to familiarize students with new topics. Thanks again! I'm glad I found your channel!
Hands down the best explanation, So glad I found this video
Concepts presented in this video for understanding VOR positions to the airplane are great. I'll use and recommend them as they are simple and easier to use. For those studying for the Private Pilot test be warned - the FAA has since changed the answers to the Allendale Savannah question at 12:37. I would like to point out that in Gian's video there is a discrepancy on the drawing of the Savannah vector. Why is he using the 330 radial from Savannah VOR? He should be using the 320 degree radial as stated in the question. Using 320 would put the intersection exactly 2 NM's East of Marlow which doesn't agree with the FAA's correct answer B) the town of Springfield. Using 330, as done in the video, would put the intersection near Guyton (not Springfield). Why is there this discrepancy? It appears Gian is using a newer version of the map for an obviously older FAA test question? In my 2011 edition of the Jeppeson test guide, the question and three answer choices DO match those mentioned in the video here. Using the corresponding map (2004) that came with the 2011 Jeppeson guide shows the Savannah VOR in a different location (about 5 miles ENE of the Airport). The intersection using this map is less than 1NM West of Springfield (therefore matches the correct answer B for this older edition). Again please note that the FAA has since changed the answers to this question. According the ASA 2019 edition test prep guide the new answer choices are now A) Southeast of Guyton B) The town of Springfield and C) Over Briggs airport, with the correct answer being A) Southeast of Guyton. My calculations using the 2018 edition map in the Airman Knowledge Testing Supplement that came with this 2019 ASA guide OR a current map (from today via SkyVector), my calculations show that the VOR intersection is 2 miles East of Marlow. That would make answer A) Southeast of Guyton, correct. Bottom line is care must be taken as to which map edition of the Airman Knowledge Testing Supplement is used with the test question. It appears the Savannah VOR location has changed position since then.
Ed Heyman Our software is updated continuously to reflect FAA changes (BTW updates are free for life not like our competitors who charge you for them), but RUclips videos cannot be updated without removing the old video and therefore deleting it’s history, likes and comments.
The software has been since updated to reflect every change you mentioned. passfaaexams.com/
At 8:54, the correct answer is not listed. According to answer C. 6. the VOR would be southeast, which is wrong.
In X-Plane 11 (flight sim), I started on the Cooperstown runway and tuned to the Jamestown (KJMS) VOR. With bearing set to 030, the needle is deflected left, indicating the VOR is southwest, which is correct.
22:10 seems completely wrong. The needle is originally pointing to 168 whereas for the animated parts it magically jumps to around 195.
Quite obviously, if we're northwest from the station and head southwest, the station will be even farther to the west. Well, to start with, the question mentions illustration 2 and we're presented with illustration 1. That might explain things.
As an aviation enthusiast, I really like your videos, but this one didn't quite live up to the expectations.
For the question at 11:31, my answer was 3 miles east-southeast of Marlow, where answer C is the best fit.
In X-Plane 11, I took off from KSAV in the Cessna Skyhawk and I followed radial 320 (using VOR#2 tuned to SAV VORTAC). Meanwhile, on the Garmin 530 GPS, I used VOR#1 to watch the changing Allendale radial. When I hit radial 184 on VOR#1, I paused the sim and checked my position. I was above the FAPLI waypoint (32°15'12.71"N, 81°20'58.78"W) about 2.6 miles east-southeast of Marlow.
For some reason, Marlow is not displayed prominently on Google Maps, but a good landmark is Marlow United Methodist Church.
Keep in mind that these FAA charts for the test are actually fairly old and the Magnetic North location has since changed so comparing todays data to these old charts will not work for most of them.
@@GianLucaNoia Good point about the charts and magnetic north changing over time. In 2009, KSAV runway 9/27 was renamed to 10/28 to stay aligned with magnetic north.
According to the KSAV Airport Diagram, the annual rate of change is 0.1°W, not much over the short term. I get the same answer with today's chart and the original chart in the video at 11:38 (Marlow is marked but not labelled).
Am I crazy or is the stated conclusion on the example that starts around 5:45 just wrong? The needle is *very nearly centered* in that example, so you must be in a location where flying the selected course takes you nearly to the station. I.e. you must be on a radial such that flying 210 is within just a few degrees of taking you to the VOR. If flying 210 (south-west) takes you to the station, you must be north-east of it. (Stated conclusion is that we are currently north-west of the VOR.)
Yes I am confused as well.
Thanks for the way you explained the VOR method very helpful, hopefully starting my Pilot training soon.
For the magnetic heading 320 question...instead of drawing a new heading and moving the needle and all that, you can read the original figure that the heading is 225. But since it’s asking you for a heading of 320, you subtract 320 from the original 360. Gives you a difference of 40. Then take original 225-40= 185. I arrive at the same solution as you did without having to draw and move a needle. But that’s some easy math that helped me arrive at this answer
Exactly, really frustrating that part. "You don't wanna do math in an airplane when you are in a storm" .... ehm, but you DO want to draw a new heading and '''Move'''' the needle to the heading indicator?? HOW would you do that and HOW is that an easier solution.......??
This is a great and easy way to learn your instruments as they were meant to be used. It know makes more sense to me, what you have taught here, and I can practice more of this with FSX.
Thanks, keep up the great work for all of us!!!
Braden Bogdan ... good deal, I have X-Plane and have yet to use this function of it.
what an incredible way to consider location to/from the VOR radial! Thank you!!
You are welcome Vic. Keep in mind that our full software uses the same teaching methods as intuitive as the system used in this video. Using our software will not only guarantee you will ace your written test but also greatly increase your know how and allow you to become a much safer pilot: passfaaexams.com/
Gian's courses are great! I am a happy customer
+Brian Edlin Thank you Cpt. Edlin
At 13:48 in the video the needle is to the right on the gauge....wouldn't this mean the plane is "left of course". Meaning the plane is actually North West of the radial and not South East?
Without a To/ From flag, you cannot tell whether you are "left" or "right" off course. However, you can still tell if you are "East" or "West" of it. In this case, in order to fly towards the needle, you need to fly towards the W. So that must mean you're east of the VOR.
Here is another version of this lesson I found more helpful as he states why the TO/FROM indicator dissappeared. It is because he was right on the radial exactly perpendicular to the one he wanted to go to. ruclips.net/video/5IGUUPijPNQ/видео.html
Here is a Free Full Chapter from our Private Pilot Interactive Test Prep Software. Radio Navigation and all the Test questions that relate to this topic explained with our incredibly simple methods:
ruclips.net/video/h0Z_j9Xy6Cw/видео.html
I am very confusing the 20:30 question. Why the RB is not 210? The needle is pointing at 210 right?
Negative the instrument at 20:30 is not an ADF it's an RMI (a heading indicator with the ADF needle directly inside of it). The Needle inside the RMI points directly to the station which is in fact the Magnetic Bearing to the station.
Why is this so difficult
Not to mention, GPS can be jammed, (so it doesn't work for you) or even worse, it can be spoofed (meaning your instrument will appear to be working correctly, but it will tell you bad information)
6:43 you say "the closest cardinal direction is South", but closed to what ? West is closest to the Flag. Can you give a little bit more explanation why you way S is closest to the Flag than W ? Thanks
South is 30 degrees to the left of the top center, West is 60 to the right.
@@GianLucaNoia ah ok ! Closest to the top center, not closest to the flag. Thanks for quick reply.
@@JoaoAmadoTV Yes if you start from your timestamp you will hear "straight from the top".
@@GianLucaNoia Yes, you are right, i heard it again i understood it. In my mind i heard close to flag, maybe because on the previous example the flag is directly pointing to it. My bad ... Thanks again. Good thing about videos is that we can come and listen again and again until we understand it ;-)
Thank you sir, it's a great very informative video.
Thank you sooooo much, I was struggling with some of this stuff... you make it deceptively simple.
Thank you ZJ.
Finding ways to simplify aviation topics is the name of the game at Pilot Training Solutions. Try one of our free demos at: passfaaexams.com/free-demo-downloads/
and see how we can help you increase your test scores tenfold!
can someone explain: intercepting bearing 180,!!! why we are heading 220? it doesn't make sense in my opinion. our current heading is 345 or 015?
Remember that a Bearing is TO the station, while a Radial is FROM the station. passfaaexams.com/
One thing I just can't understand when playing flight simulator is the following, VOR usually give you a straight line for you to follow, but some landing sites have multiple runways in different direction, are there multiple frequencies for each runway or you just have to guess which it is. if you could answer I would very much appreciate it.
That would be an ILS frequency not a VOR
@@GianLucaNoia oh, so only ILS have an specific frequency for each runaway? Thanks again
@@UncarteD Well yes and no. Not every runway has an ILS Approach.
@@GianLucaNoia So let's say you are trying to land under terrible weather, how know exactly where the runaway is so that you can start descending? Is there a way to know precisely where the runway is just by using ILS or the only way to land under terrible weather is using GPS ?
@@UncarteD ILS will align you with the runway and give you lateral and vertical guidance down to the runway (Cat III ILS)
Thanks for sharing this very informative video.
1:26 Suggestion for your graphic: Display the red wave as concentric rings expanding outward from the VOR, and the blue wave as rotating beam, like the beam of a lighthouse, rotating round and round, but always pointing north when the red wave is in phase zero, and south when the red wave is phase 180. Like a lighthouse with one flashing light, and one rotating beam, where the beam is always pointing north as the omnidirectional light flashes.
I do these calculations with my plotter and I place it on a piece of paper first I make it a fixed ADF 0 degrees ontop relative bearing I mark this on the paper, then I put the heading on top and read of the magnetic bearing (same place where u marked relative bearing)
thank you so much, absolutely amazing and that's make sense and easy way to understanding .
Happy Flying and Blue Skies from all of us at PTS!
The gauges are different. I'm told to understand this is how testers try to trip you up.
Thanks a lot ! Very useful :)
You are welcome Sir. For more tips and tricks see our full software in action at: passfaaexams.com/
I read that the ADF questions were going to be removed from the test, is that true
k vasnaik Yes, but not all of them, some ADF questions are still present. with these incredibly simple methods it doesn't really matter anyway!
Excellent explanation though as I followed along... On your triangulation question with VOR Allendale & VOR Savannah, GA..
I found that by using Google Earth and drawing vector lines from the Allendale airport at 184 deg and Savannah airport at the 320deg I found myself much closer to the town of Guyton leaving Springfield further North....
Again... Google vs Sky vector which has no vector tools..
Thanks..
Will
because I can not see the other videos, I appear blocked video for your country, I am from Peru, you can enable it please.
It appears that we can't show our monetized videos in Peru because of a RUclips policy. Keep in mind though that all these videos are extracts from our courses which you can purchase at passfaaexams.com/
amazing video
Excellent demo
Awesome!!!! Thank you!!!
Thank you
Finally found a vidio to make me hate vor
I think you made a mistake when you choisen nomber 8. Its should be n6.
Sorry but this is the most confusing method I ever seen. I learned VOR navigation in the 70s and it wasn’t even close to this method. This video is confusing for a new pilot.
Thank you