This is perhaps the most amazingly simple explanation and the Gian Luca is a gift to aspiring pilots. Each time I watch this I have so much respect for the instructor. I heard so many other instructors and they left me more confused till Gian Luca explained. You are a master.
This is the clearest, most cogent explanation of VOR nav that I have come across. There are some really good, well-explained videos, but the "throw away what you've been taught" approach worked for me! I cannot believe how EASY it is now. I shouted out the answer to your test question even before you finished the sentence. This is fabulous 🙂
you're 100% different from the other instructors! the opposite! You make this simple ...it seems that these guys working so hard to make it impossible to understand...THANK YOU!!!
And all the struggles I had when I was training IFR to learn NDB and VOR approaches… no instructor ever taught me that simple…eventually I figured out all by myself . Much appreciated that NDBs are decommissioned, because most of the times I didn’t get it !
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This method seems to make sense but I'm a little confused about the VOR reading at 2:37. Using this method, the plane should be northwest of the station but with 210 dialed in and the "to" flag displayed, doesn't that mean you're inbound on the 210 radial? That would place the plane roughly northeast of the station, wouldn't it?
Last example….yes you are in sector…north east and need to fly south west to get to the VOR but…..I don’t think you can determine figure 8 as the VOR is not going to tell you about where the nose of the aircraft is pointing…still interesting way to look at general area
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correct me if I am wrong but your second example is wrong. what I see is that You are actually in north north east of the station. in fact you are on 026 radial.
Nice presentation. However, I'm bit confused about what are you taking as reference north? Is it aircraft heading? So you tell if vor is south east. Is it respect to aircraft's nose? Then in that case the direction of vor would keep changing according to aircrafts heading. And we dont know what is aircrafts heading. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to keep the reference north as simply magnetic north?
How do I translate this to reading an HSI so I know which direction ‘shrimpboats’ (as seen in the ASA Instrument Written Test Study Book) are pointing?
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It's a nice method. Maybe that works in an exam. But in reality unfortunately it doesn't work. For example the second question. The needle shows, that you are only 4 degree away from the actual VOR setting. 4 degrees in the east direction (from 210) is still SW. Put it in a flight simulator, if you don't believe me. Also in the first question could the right answer SE, but of course more likely is NE the right answer. Or do I overlook something?
+Gian Luca Noia Great method and thanks for clearing it for me but I agree with +Markus Agricola. Just try putting it in a simple simulation: HDG 045, OBS 045 with FROM indication and VOR will show us the SAME EXACT POSITION OF THE AIRCRAFT BETWEEN RADIAL 055 AND 135 RADIAL (same exact position of the VOR even though the aircraft is NE or SE) TO and FROM regions begin 90 degrees on both sides of the selected radial SO THE METHOD DOES NOT SHOW PERFECTLY CORRECT EVERY TIME. SORRY, NOT TRYING TO BE A SMART ASS.. try online sim luizmonteiro.com IT IS FREE and use the example I have used. GOOD LUCK!
+Matija Rajkovic First of all this method works 100% of the time (keep in mind that is you are within full deflection then you should look only at the flag and realize you are within 10º of the Top/Bottom number the flag points to). I do not believe I need to test this in a simulator (I have over 12,000 hours of flight time and 10,000 of those are instruction given in airplanes. If you have a full deflection than this method is perfect. If you are within full deflection you need to use your brain and knowledge a little harder. Finally in your example you mention the DG (the VOR has no clue what the DG is doing and there is no relationship between them) and you also do not mention whether the CDI is left or right. Assuming the needle is fully deflected to the left, in your scenario, then you would proceed West to get to the station as you are East of it (Both the needle and the flag point to the west). Try that on your sim and tell me if it does not work. We uploaded a new Video a couple of weeks which should clarify this concept further: ruclips.net/video/_vOl0cy8G3Y/видео.html
+Gian Luca Noia If You don't mind I would like to send you screenshots of what I am seeing in my 'little sim', not for the sake of argument but for the sake of your 12000 hrs and your theory that has helped me greatly to better understand the VOR.. I looked for a concrete answer and sorry for being unclear in my explanation but I just need You to see what I am seeing right now and tell me why is this happening with the VOR. It is the OpenOffice text document with two screenshots and explanation below. I haven't flown for years now and I am trying to review and refresh my IR... This is my real name and my email is matija.rajkovic@hotmail.com, I am from Serbia, and once again, I am just trying to learn, not participate in any kind of mocking or 'bad' argument. Thanks again for you response.
Not trying to bust your chops, but tell me if I'm wrong about this - The first question is "what is your position relative to the VOR" but the first example ends up telling us the VOR's position relative to the aircraft. In other words, you answered the OPPOSITE question to the one posed, making the video confusing. I had to watch it 3 times to figure it out.
I'm afraid to say that if you are unable to understand that if "you are North of NY" is the same as "NY is South of you", becoming a pilot is a questionable choice.
Let's assume setting the N and S of HSI to horizontal line N=original position of west. The arrow points to 320 degree (down left) and the yellow line in the middle moves "upward". What will be the direction?
Carrot To intercept the radial you would fly a heading of 005 as you would intercept at a 45º angle (on an HSI "connect the needles"). The station is probably North of you. If less than a full deflection then the station is NNW of you.
Thank you so much.....very informative. I hope you have more helpful 'Made Simple' videos. This has been so helpful. Do you have anything for -Helicopter Private Pilot Student
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The answer is correct and the logic is correct but the direction of the aircraft is wrong if the heading is stable and we have just tuned in. The flag simply tells you the signal is behind you. That is why the question puts the disclaimer : denoting aircraft position and hence not direction . Devious! So guys if you try to Match Heading and your location no simulation will give you this figure. All the question says is where , with respect to the VOR.
The flag points to the South and the Needle towards the West. This means you need to fly South West to get to the station. This also means that you are North East of it. Out of the 3 answers only #8 is on the NE quadrant.
This is perhaps the most amazingly simple explanation and the Gian Luca is a gift to aspiring pilots. Each time I watch this I have so much respect for the instructor. I heard so many other instructors and they left me more confused till Gian Luca explained. You are a master.
This is the clearest, most cogent explanation of VOR nav that I have come across. There are some really good, well-explained videos, but the "throw away what you've been taught" approach worked for me! I cannot believe how EASY it is now. I shouted out the answer to your test question even before you finished the sentence. This is fabulous 🙂
you're 100% different from the other instructors! the opposite! You make this simple ...it seems that these guys working so hard to make it impossible to understand...THANK YOU!!!
You are 100 % Genius. you are the only one that really clarified this as needed, thank you.
I really cant believe this is so simple. You have saved my life. !
Thank you for finally making this complex concept simple! 👏🏻👏🏻
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And all the struggles I had when I was training IFR to learn NDB and VOR approaches… no instructor ever taught me that simple…eventually I figured out all by myself . Much appreciated that NDBs are decommissioned, because most of the times I didn’t get it !
that made more sense than anything I have seen to date ! thanks so much !
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you’re not trying show how knowledgeable or impress how qualified you are.putting yourself in the new student shoes.
Good job 👍
Thank you so much for this video, anyone who sees it will understand, definitely earned a sub.
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This method seems to make sense but I'm a little confused about the VOR reading at 2:37. Using this method, the plane should be northwest of the station but with 210 dialed in and the "to" flag displayed, doesn't that mean you're inbound on the 210 radial? That would place the plane roughly northeast of the station, wouldn't it?
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I have tried this method in my friend's Cessna 172. I absolutely works. 100%.
Last example….yes you are in sector…north east and need to fly south west to get to the VOR but…..I don’t think you can determine figure 8 as the VOR is not going to tell you about where the nose of the aircraft is pointing…still interesting way to look at general area
I was looking for a simple method to explain this to a new student and you made it really simple…thanks for the KISS explanation
You are welcome Sir.
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extremely well explained...thank you.
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correct me if I am wrong but your second example is wrong. what I see is that You are actually in north north east of the station. in fact you are on 026 radial.
Thanks a lot, the only video that has actually clicked for me lol
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That "to" and "from" sure makes a lot of people confused. Your method is 100% better
I was very easy to understand explanation.
I am very grateful. Thank you.
The VOR can also be southeast of you or just east of you when CDI shows that!
Nice presentation. However, I'm bit confused about what are you taking as reference north? Is it aircraft heading? So you tell if vor is south east. Is it respect to aircraft's nose? Then in that case the direction of vor would keep changing according to aircrafts heading. And we dont know what is aircrafts heading. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to keep the reference north as simply magnetic north?
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Excellent explaination
How do I translate this to reading an HSI so I know which direction ‘shrimpboats’ (as seen in the ASA Instrument Written Test Study Book) are pointing?
thanks for this material man. Greetings from Costa Rica. Looking forward to do my IFR written test
Wow, i never heard it explained like that, very nice and simple, i like it. Thanks for posting!
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so simple now!! why don't they teach this in school? Lol thank you
Thank you!!!!!!!! That explanation makes it so easy to understand!
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Thank you ! I'm crying 😭
Interesting way of looking at it, I take my instrument written this weekend and this may help. Either way thanks for taking the time.
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It's a nice method. Maybe that works in an exam. But in reality unfortunately it doesn't work. For example the second question. The needle shows, that you are only 4 degree away from the actual VOR setting.
4 degrees in the east direction (from 210) is still SW. Put it in a flight simulator, if you don't believe me. Also in the first question could the right answer SE, but of course more likely is NE the right answer.
Or do I overlook something?
Markus Agricola Trust me it works all the time. You just need to think a little harder if the needle is not fully deflected.
+Gian Luca Noia Great method and thanks for clearing it for me but I agree with +Markus Agricola. Just try putting it in a simple simulation: HDG 045, OBS 045 with FROM indication and VOR will show us the SAME EXACT POSITION OF THE AIRCRAFT BETWEEN RADIAL 055 AND 135 RADIAL (same exact position of the VOR even though the aircraft is NE or SE) TO and FROM regions begin 90 degrees on both sides of the selected radial SO THE METHOD DOES NOT SHOW PERFECTLY CORRECT EVERY TIME. SORRY, NOT TRYING TO BE A SMART ASS.. try online sim luizmonteiro.com IT IS FREE and use the example I have used. GOOD LUCK!
+Matija Rajkovic First of all this method works 100% of the time (keep in mind that is you are within full deflection then you should look only at the flag and realize you are within 10º of the Top/Bottom number the flag points to). I do not believe I need to test this in a simulator (I have over 12,000 hours of flight time and 10,000 of those are instruction given in airplanes. If you have a full deflection than this method is perfect. If you are within full deflection you need to use your brain and knowledge a little harder. Finally in your example you mention the DG (the VOR has no clue what the DG is doing and there is no relationship between them) and you also do not mention whether the CDI is left or right. Assuming the needle is fully deflected to the left, in your scenario, then you would proceed West to get to the station as you are East of it (Both the needle and the flag point to the west). Try that on your sim and tell me if it does not work.
We uploaded a new Video a couple of weeks which should clarify this concept further: ruclips.net/video/_vOl0cy8G3Y/видео.html
+Gian Luca Noia If You don't mind I would like to send you screenshots of what I am seeing in my 'little sim', not for the sake of argument but for the sake of your 12000 hrs and your theory that has helped me greatly to better understand the VOR.. I looked for a concrete answer and sorry for being unclear in my explanation but I just need You to see what I am seeing right now and tell me why is this happening with the VOR. It is the OpenOffice text document with two screenshots and explanation below. I haven't flown for years now and I am trying to review and refresh my IR... This is my real name and my email is matija.rajkovic@hotmail.com, I am from Serbia, and once again, I am just trying to learn, not participate in any kind of mocking or 'bad' argument. Thanks again for you response.
+Matija Rajkovic I just sent you a PM with my email address
Really helpful thanks
Excellent.
Thankyou so much .. very helpful
This is brilliant!! Never heard it explained this way before. Thanks!
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Great, great and again great. Thank you very much for this. So simple explained. Really, this is GREAT ! Thumbs up
thanks too much I know now what a VOR does.....thanks Afghan pilot Azimi
This is great. You made it stupid simple which is amazing for for stuff
Student Pilot...thnx, very helpful.
Not trying to bust your chops, but tell me if I'm wrong about this - The first question is "what is your position relative to the VOR" but the first example ends up telling us the VOR's position relative to the aircraft. In other words, you answered the OPPOSITE question to the one posed, making the video confusing. I had to watch it 3 times to figure it out.
I'm afraid to say that if you are unable to understand that if "you are North of NY" is the same as "NY is South of you", becoming a pilot is a questionable choice.
thank you, it now makes sense.
Great 👍🏼
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May I ask does this work the same on HSI? thanks!
Yes. Its actually even easier.
Let's assume setting the N and S of HSI to horizontal line N=original position of west. The arrow points to 320 degree (down left) and the yellow line in the middle moves "upward". What will be the direction?
Carrot To intercept the radial you would fly a heading of 005 as you would intercept at a 45º angle (on an HSI "connect the needles"). The station is probably North of you. If less than a full deflection then the station is NNW of you.
Gian Luca Noia
thanks!
and I will think it again :)
Carrot I will actually upload a new video by the end of either today or tomorrow going over this scenario.
Thank you so much.....very informative. I hope you have more helpful 'Made Simple' videos. This has been so helpful. Do you have anything for -Helicopter Private Pilot Student
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great - thanks
THANK YOU!
The answer is correct and the logic is correct but the direction of the aircraft is wrong if the heading is stable and we have just tuned in. The flag simply tells you the signal is behind you. That is why the question puts the disclaimer : denoting aircraft position and hence not direction . Devious!
So guys if you try to Match Heading and your location no simulation will give you this figure. All the question says is where , with respect to the VOR.
BEST!!!
Thanks!
I missed that answer on #8. Please be more clearly on answer #8 again.
The flag points to the South and the Needle towards the West. This means you need to fly South West to get to the station. This also means that you are North East of it. Out of the 3 answers only #8 is on the NE quadrant.
Your way is much more complicated than traditional analogy.....
I am assuming that you are joking. It doesn't get easier than go West and North or go North West....
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