The scale of identity politics on both sides of the political spectrum in the US is quite shocking, imagine deciding your vote based on an immutable characteristic of nature, rather than the actual policies that person supports, or the quality of their character?!
The house divided actually works better than the central force of will, that's why democracy is the best (and worst) at governance. Fascism and authoritarianism is seductive for a reason: it makes sense on the surface, but turns into a monster in application.
Thank God that is less of a thing over here. We just had a gay leader of Indian descent here in Ireland, and his race and sexuality was almost never a topic of conversation before or during his time as Taoiseach.
@@StephenICBlimey, now that is progress! This should just be normal - why is it apparently impossible in so many countries? So many people putting so much effort into denying reality.
why even make that stupid comment when airtravel emissions is 0.000000001% of emissions compared with methane release from all oil wells. Get real you fool
I didnt like either trump or biden but im so happy that Biden can now retire. Seeing him up on atage was painful. I felt bad for him. I hope he has a long retirement.
Bluesy ."...Nancy is a formidable force it's a shame she like Ol joe too old to run for the presidentle race .i truly believe she would have kicked trump arse in 2016 two old war dogs binden / polozie .True war horses
I give him credit, and I think he had a more successful presidency than any other president since LBJ. Biden made that statement about himself and I agree. I am not a Biden hater or Trumpist. I will vote for any Democrat who ends up running against Trump However, he made this look bad for himself by failing to step down immediately after the debate. He looked like great grandpa yelling and screaming that his children are taking away his keys because he ran into the neighbor’s garbage cans.
@@mgm8822 Very true. However, if the US really had a media that holds truth to power (rather than being a propaganda tool for billionaires) the headlines would have been addressing all the lies Trump told, and that would have been the story for weeks. Let's face it, if the media actually told the truth, people like Trump or the Tories would never see power, ever.
I was gardening so a bit late to the news. Came straight here for Katty and Mooch and found all four of you. Even better. Thanks guys. Politics seems to have leap-frogged over itself this month. Love hearing all your thoughts.
Speaking as a UK observer, Harris is a virtual unknown quantity. She gets very little coverage in the media outside the US. Any chance of a more in-depth 'special' on her, especially if she gets the job.
@@emergingloki there's a reason for it. Same as pence. Neither are good on camera, kamala likes to look like she is but she's biased to herself lol not genuine and everyone can see it that doesn't look for exceptions.
She's the candidate who performed absolutely appallingly in the Democratic primaries the last time around, finishing essentially last and having to drop out in the early stages. Her own party members didn't think that she was competent to be President, but the Clintons liked her (they share politics) so she was chosen as Biden's running mate to mollify that faction of the party, whilst also attempting to appeal to black voters (she didn't, because she has a questionable record as a prosecutor, but they voted Democrat anyway, as has traditionally been the case). Centrist political wonks and Democratic voters who put party ahead of politics like her because she will tow the party line on anything, even in rare cases where she has previously expressed principles to the opposite. She probably can't beat Trump in an election, but she will most likely be chosen as the candidate anyway because the (Clinton-era) party apparatus will do everything that they can to rig the selection process, as they did in 2016 (à la the whole Wasserman-Schultz DNC emails fiasco, and subsequent court case). She's a bad choice, but DNC-aligned media are going to spin it as though she is the most gifted, talented, and perfect candidate for the job. In the unlikely event that sanity prevails and a decent candidate is chosen instead, she would again be a logical choice for VP. She's not incompetent, but she lacks the moral scruples and necessary vision to be an effective leader. (There's a reason Obama didn't endorse her.)
Y'all are misreading Obama. He strongly believes he should not endorse until AFTER a nominee is chosen. His statement today was about Joe Biden and not a comment on who should replace Joe on the top of the ticket.
Very likely true, but if Obama thought there is an existential threat to the US, that could change things. If she ran she would be very difficult to beat. Harris is polling terribly.
I am a bit baffled by the race obsession in USA.Obama was half black and half white..but was referred to as black or african american.Harris is half southeast asia(indian) and half jamaican...but she is "African" american.so weird and confusing.
@@jackparkes4092 maybe press secretary. He has done a horrible job in his current position from what I understand. He is a good talker though so do that.
With Biden out, Trump looks and sounds and acts obsolete. Country needs to move on without these two old men. Country needs new blood and fresh ideas to solve humongous internal problems.
Alistair really liked that jibe.. that shows his bias and personality, just in that one moment. Thats where Kamala will lose out, we perceive people by more than just their record or the statements they make.
Can we please have a President who allows and genuinely promotes their VP to be an effective member of the team! Everyone talks about the importance of picking the right VP, who is then stuck in a cupboard for 4 years.
You have a valid point .....every one bangs on about the presidentle race .yet have running mate get elected and put masking tape on their v.p mouth .Ive always been critical of the emperial presidentle system .But that's a other issue .If Kamla if nominated as leader which I'm sure the democrats will .Obama will fall behind Kamla after being the Devils advocate which he right you have to go in looking like healthy party .Unlike the the dickless republican s who sold their soul .
@@FireflyOnTheMoon I found it distracting and a bit childish. He seems to have this verbal diarrhoea and probably should do a solo podcast if he is not going to let others speak or finish. I found even AC was annoyed at times by his "enthusiasm".
Why is Camala Harris almost always described as the first Black woman president (if elected) while she can be described as the first Asian woman? And how is it perceived by Asian voters in the US?
She plays up her African heritage for political reasons, there is not an identity politics block to lever for South Asians in the US, the population is too small.
I’ve listened to Rory for a long long time. Big fan. However I am still in awe of his depth of knowledge globally and how he imparts it. So so humble. Remarkably. Such an inspiration and role model of leadership. He needs to be cloned!!
These are no liberals. Liberals believe in free speech not censorship. They believe in freedom of choice not just reproductive choice but with medical intervention such as vaccines ! These people are radical communists. I know my family comes from a country like that. Open your eyes 😳
I'm 30 minutes in and there has been no mention of politics or policy. It's all been about who has the correct characteristics to win - this is horrendously sad.
you win elections with your character, not policy (assuming you have standard policy thoughts). if you can't see how the two are linked, you have a very, very poor understanding of the world.
Anthony is the voice of reason. He has great Instincts and always makes sense when he talks. He has his fingers on the pulse of the nation. He would make a valuable advisor for the DNC.
Intelligent and insightful discussion as always! I think everyone involved made very good points, especially Katty and Rory: on the one hand it's true that Democratics really want to get this nomination done with quickly lest they look chaotic and disorganised, but on the other hand it's also true that a proper open convention could potentially improve the legitimacy of whoever becomes the Democratic nominee (likely Kamala Harris) Honestly - I think anyone who says with any amount of certainty what'll happen now is lying to you. This entire election has been blown wiiiide open - no telling where things go from here.
They are so polite to and considerate of each other, not to mention incredibly well-informed. What a variegated mix. I’m like Solomon himself on all my WhatsApp groups with this kind of stuff in my regular information diet. People don’t know half of what I’m talking about; all I get is awed and respectful silence following my thunderous proclamations. 😎
@@adamgrimsley2900 And he accepted the writing on the wall, something many hubris-drunk men of his era could/would not do. Heroic and yes perhaps forced a bit, but ultimately understanding and welcome.
@@_o_while Biden did what he did and it looks good for him personally the optics still look bad for the dems. They just did what they’ve been yapping on about with the the billionaire Republican donor class and let their elites push this. The difference here is the democratic base doesn’t like that and wanted something done about it on the republican side and now it’s just seems like hypocrisy especially when lower level dems tried to bring this up BEFORE primaries started and they didn’t want to hear it.
It's all about turnout, not changing people's vote, who is going to excite their supporters to get out and actually vote? Surely a black women is more likely to do this... especially after Hilary lost in 2016 and the loss of abortion rights in multiple states.
He is the wisdom of all time and a great opportunity for you guys. Rory you are a great Intellectual and you did right to step down. Alistair II Have always been a fan,
Loved the "mooch"! Can we have him on again please 😊 🙏 Great piece all-round guys. Ps yes! Rory putting his hand up was more funny than it ought to be! Hilarious 😂
The hands thing probably works best for audio only podcasts, otherwise it's a bit distracting, mind you not talking over each other is a really valid goal. Might there be another way to achieve the same end? Good discussion thanks.
Imagine if he'd actually been allowed to speak more than a couple days as part of the administration! Unfortunately, he burned too brightly and caught the ire of the troll under the bridge.
Nancy Pelosi is the most accomplished political operator of her time. We might owe our democracy to her. Can’t help thinking Nancy Pelosi just did with Biden what Mitch McConnell never had the guts to do with Trump…
This really is a terrific team! In this case a bit loaded towards Brits, but Scaramucci held his own. I suspect every significant issue was given an airing, and that's what unbiassed political commentary should be about. If only as many people watched this as those who watch Fix News.
@@PatrickCoady-ud7mg Hillary was way smarter than Trump, too, but there are a whole lot of imbeciles out there who want to vote for somebody as idiotic as they are.
@@PatrickCoady-ud7mg It's not about competency but the extent that Trump can get the vote out, build momentum etc. There seem to be a lot of people in the States who are economically aggrieved from cost of living issues.... Harris is more of the same for them.
Thank you Rory and Alister for urgent podcast. I urge you two to have an urgent podcast on Bangladesh. Bangladesh's autocratic regime has deployed Army coutrywide to supress student movement, killed at least 500 students, internet and all social media remains shut..totally secluded from the rest of the world.. people want their voice to be heard by international community... the whole country is demanding Prime minister Sheikh Hasina's resignation in a bid to restore democracy and basic human rights.
@@billshun3963 India should stay away from Bangladesh politics. Peoples of Bangladesh hate Indian intervention and its puppet Hasina..Indian govt should have relationship with BD people on the basis of mutual interest and respect not a stooge like Hadina who has no legitimacy to govern Bangladesh.
The fact that Trump’s lies are not being talked about is shocking to me. There is 1 in particular about abortion, where he has said in Democratic states they terminate babies up to 9 months after birth, which is just sickening to me that anyone could say something that disgusting and not be challenged on it.
The fact that JB’s lies and corruption are not being talked about is far more shocking to many! Save your illness because Trump did NOT say that Democrat states terminate babies 9 months after birth. What he said is that they are terminated UP TO 9 months. Late term abortion absolutely does exist in the state of New York right up to the ninth month of gestation and the very hour of birth at a child’s due date. That is infanticide. Get over yourself. You do know ole Joe is a pervert and pedo though? Probably not!
Actually, what Trump said is that in Democrat States (New York is an example) can legally abort UP TO the ninth month. This is absolutely the truth. Yet it doesn’t bother you a fig that a Dementia patient has been in power for the last 4 years ? 😫🤔 It’s a strange phenomenon that DJT’s flaws are hyperventilated upon while JB’s deep corruption is ignored and given a pass. Interesting that one! 🤔
Shocking is it? And yet the fact that a dementia patient has been in power for the last four years doesn’t disturb you in the least!? 😂🤣 Interesting phenomenon that the media hyperventilates on Trump’s flaws while at the same time ignores gross incompetence and deep corruption on the other side😫🤔 BTW what Trump actually said was that you can abort UP TO the ninth month which is true in New York State.
There’s a risk that it would be too progressive and alienate a significant number of people. The Democrats need to win as many hearts and minds (and, therefore, votes) as possible… not risk losing people to Trump and the slide to authoritarianism.
Great content as always. Just nitpicking here but it’s important: it’s the “Democrat” party, not the “democratic” party. Also Kamala is half-Indian. Her first name is Indian just to remind everyone of it. I wonder what makes her “black” more than she’s “Indian” or even “Asian” from a marketing and PR perspective.
Great question - and I suspect no liberal will take that on. If Kamala is honest she would quit the "I'm an African American schtick" supplemented by African American references and language. America needs to STOP characterizing every issue through a race lens.
We've never had a debate between two presidential candidates in June. Do you think that debate was scheduled so early by accident? The Democrats told Biden we're going to give you one chance to prove that you can do this and when he couldn't do it they replaced him.
I am 100% with Rory, let's open this thing up, it will generate so much excitement to snuff out Trump/Vance. Personally, Harris has not impressed me to date although I hear she has improved recently. Either way, the way to do it is through an open convention even if Harris is to win it instead of an automatic/default nomination. I just hope all the potential candidates won't be too calculative in thinking they should sit this one out and wait for 2028.
In normal times, yes, open it up, but the democrats have about 12 weeks to launch a presidential candidate and win! You can bet the movie studios are scripting the film of all this in real time.
@@JohnBeeblebroxIf you saw the video then you know those funds can be transferred to a PAC. And also donors will immediately fund the new candidate. Money will not be any issue!
@@JohnBeeblebrox Don't worry about the warchest, all the big donors have been waiting for this moment. Huge cheques will be rolling in, PLUS do not forget the big donors all want an open convention!!
I think the first person to make that comparison was trump’s own niece Mary Trump on her podcast yesterday. And she loathe trump so when she said it, it sounded way more savage lol
@@lnjluvuforevr I'm not a supporter of left politics but I even found that funny lol 😂 on the note of the bandages though I thought the idea was silly too until I realized the folks doing it see him as family. He's going to bat for them where they can't and almost lost his life. It's a move of solidarity. Personally I wouldn't do it but I understand. I wouldn't shave my head for a relative with cancer, I find it unnecessary, almost cruel. I wouldn't want someone to deminish themselves in one way or another for no reason but to support me idealogically. So I will not drag the Trump fans doing it because in a way I respect it even though I think it's silly lol
@@sh4dow2788 Good example of empathy and understanding. Trump represents something that those outside of the "in-group" simply cannot understand...and even belittle, which gives those who are fully in the tribe even more reason to hate the people who look down and spit on them.
@@_o_ Trump is pretending to represent regular people, but in reality he's governed just like any other establishment status quo politician. Serving his mega donors and himself. So yeah maybe he appears as the every man who doesn't judge anyone, but in reality he's part of the elite and he couldn't possibly care less about regular people. I don't look down on Trump voters, I understand that they are looking for answers, but I'm bothered that they are being preyed upon by a conman who is exploiting their legitimate fears for his own gain, while selling them out behind the scenes. It's also kind of wild to me that people can't see through it when it's rather obvious that he's completely lying about everything. It's like people have never met a liar before. Wild.
He didn’t “back out”. He was forced out. And, money, or the lack of it, is what did it. Big donors saw the writing on the wall if he was the candidate. These are multimillionaires who contribute millions. Pelosi and Schumer gathered forces and told Joe that he was going to get out, not asking by the way. Friends of a lifetime, threw him under the bus, and he was angry about how he was treated. You’d think after forty years in a cut throat business he’d know the axe was coming. They raised $100,000,000 in a single day after he withdrew. And, his weak, senile self will continue to man the helm for the next six months, in his own fashion. Wanna bet how often he speaks in public?
I don’t know how Rory has come to his conclusions about Kamala, but the polls show her ahead/neck-and-neck with other potentials. As for carrying a state, that’s what you pick a VP for. You don’t elect a presidential candidate to win a state; that’s too narrow a scope.
Rory with the voice a reason An open contest will strengthen a candidate not weaken them. There is a lot of anti democratic tendencies in liberal political parties
Rory putting up his hand was funnier than it should have been 😂
That or he is product placing the Samsung Ring.
The FOV on his camera makes it look enormous 🤣
I thought it was annoying! Absolutely no need to do that.
@@elainelight I agree...the first time I started to see Rory in a different light
@@elainelightlighten up
🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️ - Rory in the whole episode
Damn annoying right?
@@sophiejohereI'm an admirer of Stewart but he was like a school kid constantly trying to attract the teacher's attention.
@@martydav9475 I’m also fond, but it was a bit much
The scale of identity politics on both sides of the political spectrum in the US is quite shocking, imagine deciding your vote based on an immutable characteristic of nature, rather than the actual policies that person supports, or the quality of their character?!
The house divided actually works better than the central force of will, that's why democracy is the best (and worst) at governance. Fascism and authoritarianism is seductive for a reason: it makes sense on the surface, but turns into a monster in application.
Thank God that is less of a thing over here. We just had a gay leader of Indian descent here in Ireland, and his race and sexuality was almost never a topic of conversation before or during his time as Taoiseach.
@@StephenICBlimey, now that is progress! This should just be normal - why is it apparently impossible in so many countries? So many people putting so much effort into denying reality.
@@_o_ Eh?
No one ever mentioned Sunak's heritage until Starmer did when he became PM. Although Farage hinted at it.
Rory trying to prove hes got bigger hands than Trump 😂
Rory’s hand makes a HUGE statement in comparison to Trump’s 🙌🏼😁
... and a bigger brain ....and a much, much MUCH bigger Johnson
Holder of the magic oura ring, the ring the ring
X
He sounds so much like Richard Dawkins that it's distracting....
:)
So sad that in 2024 race and sex are still the key voting factors not policies or even content of character...
This is the US we are discussing. Half the country is living in 1748. BC or AD I'm not sure.
Anthony really said the best ticket is Harris/Buttigieg cause gender/race/gay, welcome to America! lol
Because Trump and Maga have put us back to an earlier, more primitive time
@@lisabolo26definitely Russia China and most Middle East countries do not want to Make America Great Again.
I really hate to admit this but you may have a point 🤔👍
Rory Stewart must have some carbon footprint; every time I catch this podcast he’s in a different country.
And he still had the nerve to support ULEZ. Selfish little worm.
why even make that stupid comment when airtravel emissions is 0.000000001% of emissions compared with methane release from all oil wells. Get real you fool
I think he walks there.
He's still a spy
I travel monthly by plane however I believe I offset my carbon footprint by the fact I walk everywhere and don’t own a car 😂
I didnt like either trump or biden but im so happy that Biden can now retire. Seeing him up on atage was painful. I felt bad for him. I hope he has a long retirement.
I give it a year at most before its announced that he's suffering some cognitive degenerative disease.
Bluesy ."...Nancy is a formidable force it's a shame she like Ol joe too old to run for the presidentle race .i truly believe she would have kicked trump arse in 2016 two old war dogs binden / polozie .True war horses
@@jonathanwilliams9697 that is likely to apply to Mr Trump too.
I give him credit, and I think he had a more successful presidency than any other president since LBJ. Biden made that statement about himself and I agree. I am not a Biden hater or Trumpist. I will vote for any Democrat who ends up running against Trump
However, he made this look bad for himself by failing to step down immediately after the debate. He looked like great grandpa yelling and screaming that his children are taking away his keys because he ran into the neighbor’s garbage cans.
@@mgm8822 Very true. However, if the US really had a media that holds truth to power (rather than being a propaganda tool for billionaires) the headlines would have been addressing all the lies Trump told, and that would have been the story for weeks. Let's face it, if the media actually told the truth, people like Trump or the Tories would never see power, ever.
I was gardening so a bit late to the news. Came straight here for Katty and Mooch and found all four of you. Even better. Thanks guys. Politics seems to have leap-frogged over itself this month.
Love hearing all your thoughts.
Speaking as a UK observer, Harris is a virtual unknown quantity. She gets very little coverage in the media outside the US. Any chance of a more in-depth 'special' on her, especially if she gets the job.
to a significant degree, for many voters, she has a blank slate
All I know about her is that she loves saying "what can be, unburdened by what has been"
Look up the compilations, it's hilarious
@@peppigue But she IS known, though.. Known, unfortunately, for standing behind. I don't think she'd win against Trump.
@@emergingloki there's a reason for it. Same as pence. Neither are good on camera, kamala likes to look like she is but she's biased to herself lol not genuine and everyone can see it that doesn't look for exceptions.
She's the candidate who performed absolutely appallingly in the Democratic primaries the last time around, finishing essentially last and having to drop out in the early stages. Her own party members didn't think that she was competent to be President, but the Clintons liked her (they share politics) so she was chosen as Biden's running mate to mollify that faction of the party, whilst also attempting to appeal to black voters (she didn't, because she has a questionable record as a prosecutor, but they voted Democrat anyway, as has traditionally been the case). Centrist political wonks and Democratic voters who put party ahead of politics like her because she will tow the party line on anything, even in rare cases where she has previously expressed principles to the opposite. She probably can't beat Trump in an election, but she will most likely be chosen as the candidate anyway because the (Clinton-era) party apparatus will do everything that they can to rig the selection process, as they did in 2016 (à la the whole Wasserman-Schultz DNC emails fiasco, and subsequent court case). She's a bad choice, but DNC-aligned media are going to spin it as though she is the most gifted, talented, and perfect candidate for the job. In the unlikely event that sanity prevails and a decent candidate is chosen instead, she would again be a logical choice for VP. She's not incompetent, but she lacks the moral scruples and necessary vision to be an effective leader. (There's a reason Obama didn't endorse her.)
Y'all are misreading Obama. He strongly believes he should not endorse until AFTER a nominee is chosen. His statement today was about Joe Biden and not a comment on who should replace Joe on the top of the ticket.
Exactly, lots of journalists apparently cannot read
Exactly, Rory really lives in some kind of parallel rarified world where he says stuff without much idea about how ordinary people think or act.
He’s backing an open convention rather than a coronation, which is significant
100% correct
So true!! Facts
My reaction to Obama waiting is he didn't want to be seen as the orchestrator
Very likely true, but if Obama thought there is an existential threat to the US, that could change things. If she ran she would be very difficult to beat. Harris is polling terribly.
100% right he's waiting and then will step in most likely after wed.
Or he knows she’s not good enough
@@markjonz She is at least a decent politician, and a media superstar. Whether she is willing to run is the question.
Which he is!
I am a bit baffled by the race obsession in USA.Obama was half black and half white..but was referred to as black or african american.Harris is half southeast asia(indian) and half jamaican...but she is "African" american.so weird and confusing.
it's to distract them from talking about class realistically
Historically there was a concept called the 'one drop rule' which has informed societal interpretations of racial identity.
it's largely about what they identify as themselves. which of course isn't simple either, but obviously matters with regards to their life experience
@@richardw3052yup and it’s sort of ingrained now
Not as confusing as gender. Muggins here thought there was just 2
I wonder with Kamala if we will be able to see what can be... and be unburdened by what has been
😂 brilliant
I'd like to see what can be, and be unburdened by trump
Yup, her repeat mantra can be disturbing.
The question is, can she speak for two minutes unburdened by Word salad?
YOU KNOW she ain’t burdened by a thing that’s happened…ain’t no conscience with her
Excellent thank you all. The world feels so much better tonight.
Rory so shocked about the news he reverted to primary school 😂
Fantastic how quick you all are to discuss this thoughtfully
I want to high-five Rory every time he puts his hand up ! Great guy - brilliant mind.
Pete Buttigieg is brilliant, he’d be such a strong addition to the ticket. Best communicator in US politics right now.
@@jackparkes4092 maybe press secretary. He has done a horrible job in his current position from what I understand. He is a good talker though so do that.
LOL @ brilliant. Puff, puff pass man.
@@2bb-2is being black and female a benefit or handicap in an election by the American public?
@@hjf3022 Kamala's definitely handicapped
You think small C conservative undecideds will vote for a gay guy?
Campbell and Stewart are the Neville and Carragher of political analysis.
Bloody brilliant. 👌💥.x
which one is which, in your opinion?
@@thestooshie cambell is cara and Rory is neville 😂
With Biden out, Trump looks and sounds and acts obsolete. Country needs to move on without these two old men. Country needs new blood and fresh ideas to solve humongous internal problems.
That’s how I would play it.
If the Democrats can find an electable replacement for Biden then there is a chance of that happening! :)
@@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV (they can’t)
Biden is wise with his years. Trump stays an eternal child. There's advantages to age and a lot more to Biden than you imagine.
@@deborahcurtis1385 I agree with you.
"Trump doesn't like smart people." Love it.
Interesting idea from Scaramucci that Trump might fire him. Surely even Trump wouldn't be that unhinged.
After Trump Annihilates Camilla at the Debates over her record On the border🤫
@@martydav9475Well that’s right after he passes the enabling act 💀
@@jamesbomd3503 DT is going to deport millions of people is he?
Alistair really liked that jibe.. that shows his bias and personality, just in that one moment. Thats where Kamala will lose out, we perceive people by more than just their record or the statements they make.
The idea to get the Mooch for the RiP USA was just pure genius
Yes, he and KK are slowly drawing me in.
Last episode mooch said it was trump’s election to lose, this week he’s changed, mr consistent.
I've completely changed my view on Anthony - he's just great now. 🙂
@@willdon.1279 He's a bit emotional but he has been through a lot.
Can't listen to him, unfortunately. I remember his history.
When you hear the news and your first thought is... emergency podcast🎉😁
Can we please have a President who allows and genuinely promotes their VP to be an effective member of the team!
Everyone talks about the importance of picking the right VP, who is then stuck in a cupboard for 4 years.
The dems put her in that cupboard because she's a total lunatic
You have a valid point .....every one bangs on about the presidentle race .yet have running mate get elected and put masking tape on their v.p mouth .Ive always been critical of the emperial presidentle system .But that's a other issue .If Kamla if nominated as leader which I'm sure the democrats will .Obama will fall behind Kamla after being the Devils advocate which he right you have to go in looking like healthy party .Unlike the the dickless republican s who sold their soul .
If Trump wins I'd be quite grateful if Vance gets locked in the cupboard.
Well the last VP given significant power was Dick Cheney haha, so be careful what you wish for.
I thought Biden was involved as VP
Great Chanel, thank you for your in-site👍🏼 Katy and Mooch adds so much Quality to this team up.
I bet it was fun being in class with Rory. Doesn't hesitate to raise his hand lol
Why should he?
@@FireflyOnTheMoon I found it distracting and a bit childish. He seems to have this verbal diarrhoea and probably should do a solo podcast if he is not going to let others speak or finish. I found even AC was annoyed at times by his "enthusiasm".
He had all the answers of course.............
Why is Camala Harris almost always described as the first Black woman president (if elected) while she can be described as the first Asian woman? And how is it perceived by Asian voters in the US?
She plays up her African heritage for political reasons, there is not an identity politics block to lever for South Asians in the US, the population is too small.
I don't think there could be a much greater contrast between Harris and Trump in any regard
Basically, you've got to remember that they never *really* got rid of the "One drop Rule".
Asians are NOT liked by a lot of Americans; much too smart - and NOT white!
So not victim material.
Being black is more useful than being asian...
You don't get cool special powers if you tick the asian box. ;)
I’ve listened to Rory for a long long time. Big fan. However I am still in awe of his depth of knowledge globally and how he imparts it. So so humble. Remarkably. Such an inspiration and role model of leadership. He needs to be cloned!!
Another superb broadcast and Scaramucci speaks brilliantly with Kay also impressive.
I really like this whole team. All of them knowledgable and thoughtful. Thank you.
Quite like this Scaramucci cat. That line about re-election with his wife was pretty good
Devils' advocates are important, good stuff Rory !
Be liberal be proud, don't back down. Give young minds hope so they'll come out and VOTE that's what's important
These are no liberals. Liberals believe in free speech not censorship. They believe in freedom of choice not just reproductive choice but with medical intervention such as vaccines ! These people are radical communists. I know my family comes from a country like that. Open your eyes 😳
Rory, get your fricken hand down.....
Brilliant stream, really enjoyed listening to you guys, can’t wait for the next one 👍
America has turned into an 80's soap opera.
I'm not sure if it ever left the 80s soap opera stage. My version: the USA got stuck in an episode of Jerry Springer and never escaped.
Maybe we’ll wake up in December and Bobby will be taking a shower
Alastair did well managing having 3 other different people. Well done.
Yet he can't manage to correctly pronounce the name of the party. It's the "Democratic" party NOT the "Democrat" party.
I'm 30 minutes in and there has been no mention of politics or policy. It's all been about who has the correct characteristics to win - this is horrendously sad.
That’s the USA for you.
you win elections with your character, not policy (assuming you have standard policy thoughts). if you can't see how the two are linked, you have a very, very poor understanding of the world.
@@bigbobabc123 You have very pathetically low expectations of the world 😩
I am thrilled that President Biden made the wise decision to withdraw
Go Kamala!
Apparently they’ve taken gullible out of the dictionary as well
He was forced out . Wow 🤪
Anthony is the voice of reason. He has great Instincts and always makes sense when he talks. He has his fingers on the pulse of the nation. He would make a valuable advisor for the DNC.
Intelligent and insightful discussion as always!
I think everyone involved made very good points, especially Katty and Rory: on the one hand it's true that Democratics really want to get this nomination done with quickly lest they look chaotic and disorganised, but on the other hand it's also true that a proper open convention could potentially improve the legitimacy of whoever becomes the Democratic nominee (likely Kamala Harris)
Honestly - I think anyone who says with any amount of certainty what'll happen now is lying to you. This entire election has been blown wiiiide open - no telling where things go from here.
Chaotic and disorganised or, possibly, dynamic and electric?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂g.i.m.p.s
Great, enlightening
YES 👍 I was going to say that but you took the wind out of my sail .Ill shut up 🙏
Thank goodness for your insightful, well informed, level-headed analysis!
How good is Mooch? Always brings energy and real insight. Impressive.
Weird that he wanted to (and did briefly) work for Trump. Could he not see what we all saw?
Absolutely amazing show, thanks for doing this on such a short notice.
Rory Stewart is incredibly annoying with the hand raising. Someone should tell him that.
Agreed! I specially came back to the comments section to see if it was just me this was annoying
Loving how keen each of these guys is to get into the conversation. What a good quality debate.
They are so polite to and considerate of each other, not to mention incredibly well-informed. What a variegated mix. I’m like Solomon himself on all my WhatsApp groups with this kind of stuff in my regular information diet. People don’t know half of what I’m talking about; all I get is awed and respectful silence following my thunderous proclamations. 😎
Biden put country first. RESPECT
What are talking about?? He was forced out
@@adamgrimsley2900country before party
@@adamgrimsley2900 And he accepted the writing on the wall, something many hubris-drunk men of his era could/would not do. Heroic and yes perhaps forced a bit, but ultimately understanding and welcome.
@@_o_while Biden did what he did and it looks good for him personally the optics still look bad for the dems. They just did what they’ve been yapping on about with the the billionaire Republican donor class and let their elites push this. The difference here is the democratic base doesn’t like that and wanted something done about it on the republican side and now it’s just seems like hypocrisy especially when lower level dems tried to bring this up BEFORE primaries started and they didn’t want to hear it.
RIGHT ON 🙏
It's all about turnout, not changing people's vote, who is going to excite their supporters to get out and actually vote? Surely a black women is more likely to do this... especially after Hilary lost in 2016 and the loss of abortion rights in multiple states.
You mean a privileged Brahmin elite woman
It's never been possible for a poor person to run for president, whatever gender or colour?
He is the wisdom of all time and a great opportunity for you guys. Rory you are a great Intellectual and you did right to step down. Alistair II Have always been a fan,
Thanks for emergency live show. Interesting analysis on this historic day
What historic day ?…
Fantastic stream, so great to hear everyone’s immediate reactions.
Loved the "mooch"! Can we have him on again please 😊 🙏 Great piece all-round guys. Ps yes! Rory putting his hand up was more funny than it ought to be! Hilarious 😂
Brava and Bravo to all four of you….great episode.
Brilliant analysis from four formidable people.
Trump can be fought!
And Bought. 😂
Not with Harris. As Rory stated.
🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🙌
Presently Trump is the only one who can save the Western world!
briliant conversation, as always.
The Muc is courting Katty Kay. Playing the long game like a true democratic operative
I have just found your program and it’s great. Have subscribed. Love from Melbourne.
Katty's not looking happy. Not surprised ... guess she was having a relaxed Sunday evening.
Great show - insightful analysis of the world’s most important issue.
The hands thing probably works best for audio only podcasts, otherwise it's a bit distracting, mind you not talking over each other is a really valid goal. Might there be another way to achieve the same end? Good discussion thanks.
Thanks for the update great job “Rest is Politics” team
The Mooch is good. Top notch.
Imagine if he'd actually been allowed to speak more than a couple days as part of the administration! Unfortunately, he burned too brightly and caught the ire of the troll under the bridge.
Nancy Pelosi is the most accomplished political operator of her time. We might owe our democracy to her. Can’t help thinking Nancy Pelosi just did with Biden what Mitch McConnell never had the guts to do with Trump…
A senile power seeker whose husband benefited immensely from her assistance with insider trading. Yep, great operator.
Are us joking? That woman is the most corrupt and evil person of our time!
This really is a terrific team! In this case a bit loaded towards Brits, but Scaramucci held his own. I suspect every significant issue was given an airing, and that's what unbiassed political commentary should be about. If only as many people watched this as those who watch Fix News.
Great great discussion… I think the best I have heard…
Rory is 100% right on this. I am glad Biden stepped aside for the sake of the country, but I am not at all sure she can win.
What u think she cant beat a convicted felon are u kidding me she is way smarter than him
@@PatrickCoady-ud7mg Hillary was way smarter than Trump, too, but there are a whole lot of imbeciles out there who want to vote for somebody as idiotic as they are.
Really? I'm not at all sure Trump will ever demand a face-to-face debate with her
@@PatrickCoady-ud7mg this will age very poorly
@@PatrickCoady-ud7mg It's not about competency but the extent that Trump can get the vote out, build momentum etc. There seem to be a lot of people in the States who are economically aggrieved from cost of living issues.... Harris is more of the same for them.
Bloody good job, things were getting scary….
The best thing about Biden stepping down and a new candidate coming out is that the Democrats have moved the story away from Trump's 'bravery'.
Great talk, all. Thank you!
Thank you Rory and Alister for urgent podcast. I urge you two to have an urgent podcast on Bangladesh. Bangladesh's autocratic regime has deployed Army coutrywide to supress student movement, killed at least 500 students, internet and all social media remains shut..totally secluded from the rest of the world.. people want their voice to be heard by international community... the whole country is demanding Prime minister Sheikh Hasina's resignation in a bid to restore democracy and basic human rights.
thank you for spreading awareness 🙏
It’s time for India to shine.
@@billshun3963 India should stay away from Bangladesh politics. Peoples of Bangladesh hate Indian intervention and its puppet Hasina..Indian govt should have relationship with BD people on the basis of mutual interest and respect not a stooge like Hadina who has no legitimacy to govern Bangladesh.
I learnt a huge amount, thank you!
Great as always, love the 4 of you
Love it. Thanks for the podcast. Love the USA team.
Everything the mooch said. 🤞🏻
Sense at last, sense at last, let’s save America, with sense, grace and a woman’s touch at last 🎉
The fact that Trump’s lies are not being talked about is shocking to me. There is 1 in particular about abortion, where he has said in Democratic states they terminate babies up to 9 months after birth, which is just sickening to me that anyone could say something that disgusting and not be challenged on it.
There is no way Rupert Murdoch would hold his pal accountable not when they benefit from each other
I think that Biden’s lies and corruption are not being addressed is far more shocking!
The fact that JB’s lies and corruption are not being talked about is far more shocking to many! Save your illness because Trump did NOT say that Democrat states terminate babies 9 months after birth. What he said is that they are terminated UP TO 9 months. Late term abortion absolutely does exist in the state of New York right up to the ninth month of gestation and the very hour of birth at a child’s due date. That is infanticide. Get over yourself. You do know ole Joe is a pervert and pedo though? Probably not!
Actually, what Trump said is that in Democrat States (New York is an example) can legally abort UP TO the ninth month. This is absolutely the truth. Yet it doesn’t bother you a fig that a Dementia patient has been in power for the last 4 years ? 😫🤔 It’s a strange phenomenon that DJT’s flaws are hyperventilated upon while JB’s deep corruption is ignored and given a pass. Interesting that one! 🤔
Shocking is it? And yet the fact that a dementia patient has been in power for the last four years doesn’t disturb you in the least!? 😂🤣 Interesting phenomenon that the media hyperventilates on Trump’s flaws while at the same time ignores gross incompetence and deep corruption on the other side😫🤔 BTW what Trump actually said was that you can abort UP TO the ninth month which is true in New York State.
excellent overview, I learned a lot from this.
Anthony is right. A bold democratic ticket like Harris-Buttigieg would be a winner.
Don't think so, every poll has Harris losing to Trump
Agree unconditional support from progressive far left voters.
There’s a risk that it would be too progressive and alienate a significant number of people.
The Democrats need to win as many hearts and minds (and, therefore, votes) as possible… not risk losing people to Trump and the slide to authoritarianism.
You don’t understand Americans
@@billshun3963 too Panglissian I fear...
Anthony, is right Pete is a great communicator and orator and always on message
Great content as always. Just nitpicking here but it’s important: it’s the “Democrat” party, not the “democratic” party. Also Kamala is half-Indian. Her first name is Indian just to remind everyone of it. I wonder what makes her “black” more than she’s “Indian” or even “Asian” from a marketing and PR perspective.
Great question - and I suspect no liberal will take that on. If Kamala is honest she would quit the "I'm an African American schtick" supplemented by African American references and language. America needs to STOP characterizing every issue through a race lens.
Democratic Party is the official name, Democrat Party is just a nickname.
Australia desperately needs a podcast like this one.
We've never had a debate between two presidential candidates in June. Do you think that debate was scheduled so early by accident? The Democrats told Biden we're going to give you one chance to prove that you can do this and when he couldn't do it they replaced him.
Thanks for this video - so helpful!
I am 100% with Rory, let's open this thing up, it will generate so much excitement to snuff out Trump/Vance. Personally, Harris has not impressed me to date although I hear she has improved recently. Either way, the way to do it is through an open convention even if Harris is to win it instead of an automatic/default nomination. I just hope all the potential candidates won't be too calculative in thinking they should sit this one out and wait for 2028.
If not Harris then how are you going to resolve the campaign funding question? Only Harris has legal access to the large warchest...
In normal times, yes, open it up, but the democrats have about 12 weeks to launch a presidential candidate and win! You can bet the movie studios are scripting the film of all this in real time.
@@JohnBeeblebroxIf you saw the video then you know those funds can be transferred to a PAC. And also donors will immediately fund the new candidate. Money will not be any issue!
@@JohnBeeblebrox Don't worry about the warchest, all the big donors have been waiting for this moment. Huge cheques will be rolling in, PLUS do not forget the big donors all want an open convention!!
@@moow950 A PAC can only make a small maximum donation of $3,300 per election to another candidate.
"......the very white or very orange Donald Trump" love it
With all due respect to Alex and Rory, needed more Katty and much more Mooch.
Who’s Alex
What a great team. Great insight and opinions.
I love Anthony and his “ my pillow” response to trump’s bandage , and the ridiculousness of maga imitating the bandage 😊
I think the first person to make that comparison was trump’s own niece Mary Trump on her podcast yesterday. And she loathe trump so when she said it, it sounded way more savage lol
@@lnjluvuforevr I'm not a supporter of left politics but I even found that funny lol 😂 on the note of the bandages though I thought the idea was silly too until I realized the folks doing it see him as family. He's going to bat for them where they can't and almost lost his life. It's a move of solidarity. Personally I wouldn't do it but I understand. I wouldn't shave my head for a relative with cancer, I find it unnecessary, almost cruel. I wouldn't want someone to deminish themselves in one way or another for no reason but to support me idealogically. So I will not drag the Trump fans doing it because in a way I respect it even though I think it's silly lol
@@sh4dow2788 Good example of empathy and understanding. Trump represents something that those outside of the "in-group" simply cannot understand...and even belittle, which gives those who are fully in the tribe even more reason to hate the people who look down and spit on them.
@@_o_ Trump is pretending to represent regular people, but in reality he's governed just like any other establishment status quo politician. Serving his mega donors and himself. So yeah maybe he appears as the every man who doesn't judge anyone, but in reality he's part of the elite and he couldn't possibly care less about regular people. I don't look down on Trump voters, I understand that they are looking for answers, but I'm bothered that they are being preyed upon by a conman who is exploiting their legitimate fears for his own gain, while selling them out behind the scenes. It's also kind of wild to me that people can't see through it when it's rather obvious that he's completely lying about everything. It's like people have never met a liar before. Wild.
I get a great kick out of the way these men interact with each other.
Harris will energize and unite the party and Republicans are terrified! Bring Trump on
She’s a bought and paid for plant of the establishment! That was more than evident by the way she was installed!
He didn’t “back out”. He was forced out. And, money, or the lack of it, is what did it. Big donors saw the writing on the wall if he was the candidate. These are multimillionaires who contribute millions. Pelosi and Schumer gathered forces and told Joe that he was going to get out, not asking by the way. Friends of a lifetime, threw him under the bus, and he was angry about how he was treated. You’d think after forty years in a cut throat business he’d know the axe was coming. They raised $100,000,000 in a single day after he withdrew. And, his weak, senile self will continue to man the helm for the next six months, in his own fashion. Wanna bet how often he speaks in public?
Can Rory Stewart stop putting his damn hand up like some irritating teachers pet
It’s called manners.
Come on Mooch - please help the Dems win!
Pence did not get any attention either . What was he doing . He didn’t take care of Covid
@@TheLilly248 he suddenly got busy not getting hanged
No one could take care of a pandemic!
I heard he was trying to pray the gay away, but that's just a rumour
@@elinstar6034I mean he was buried so deep in trump that even if he isn’t gay that act may have felt uncomfortable
I felt as though I were attending a meeting of the clinically optimistic.
I don’t know how Rory has come to his conclusions about Kamala, but the polls show her ahead/neck-and-neck with other potentials. As for carrying a state, that’s what you pick a VP for. You don’t elect a presidential candidate to win a state; that’s too narrow a scope.
He's both clueless and arrogant...always a winning combination.
the cult of unwarranted optimism (aside from Rory)
Rory with the voice a reason
An open contest will strengthen a candidate not weaken them. There is a lot of anti democratic tendencies in liberal political parties
We didn't engsge in voter suppression. That was the right.
Deep insight - great debate.