Imagine being yoimiya. She always runs besides ultra hyped units is already not the best pyro dps and a unit comes out that buffs almost everyone with the same role except her. She definitily needs a hug.
She needs more representation from influencers that know what they're doing. There's a reason people respect her damage potential. Nobody wants to admit that it's EXTREMELY EASY AND F2P FRIENDLY to reach that level. If there's actually any new players reading this; just know that with a rust and lvl 4 talents with a 2pc/2pc 18% atk setup you could do more dmg than was shown here... likely by lvl 60.
Lyney’s my main, I was hesitant at first with the Charged bow attack playstyle, but the more and more I use him, the more satisfying his front loaded damage is. Plus, with defensive options, he’s a lot more comfy and his damage makes up for the slot. More so with vertical investment. As much as I agree with the choice, Flip I think you just put him on top because he can work well on Cheveruse teams… and in turn Fischl 😂
Even in the comments someone pointed out how it's obvious this vid was made before her release, and Flip replied by saying his list wouldn't change. He is beyond delusional
It is crazy, though, to have so many pyro DPS already. With Natlan around the corner, dropping Arlecchino and Gaming during Fontaine feels like pitching any kind of Pyro DPS during Natlan is going to be a hard sell. There are other niches that could be filled out, and we need people other than Bennet and Xiangling, but there's no way the PYRO nation isn't going to have another pyro DPS drop
I love how you dunk on Yoimiya while showing footage of her cranking the Abyss like it's an overworld encounter. :D Me: watching Bennett do plunge+vape damage that makes me wonder why my Hu Tao doesn't do that much damage. :(
If only klee’s burst didn’t stop when she left field… everyone would want her if this was the case. She wouldnt even be OP and Xiangling may still be better so idk why hoyoverse didn’t do this
As much as Lyney strong and has nice frontloaded damage, CA bow DPS is the most terrible torture created by humanity so I'd always play Hu Tao over him.
Well u don't hv to CA always like ganyu tho his skill and burst also deals way lot . Well this is subjective but i feel playing hutao is way annoying than lyney.
Eh back during 1.X most TCers considered Ganyu to be the best DPS due to having essentially no caveats if you could aim. Lyney is the same way. It’s just that abyss/enemy design has grown more aggressive since then. There are definitely DPS now with fewer caveats than Lyney (Neuv, Raiden, Haitham, Navia) but none of them are pyro.
I'd put Yoimiya in last too if I didn't know what a Yoimiya team looked like. That dmg in the background was dogwater. If you're going to say she's a bad unit at least invest enough to form an educated opinion. How do you even finish an attack chain (her last shot deals the most dmg) with 55k? You had Furina on your team, and that was after a swirl in a Kazuha ult. Edit: you forgot Dehya and still claim she's the worst pyro dps? Brother if you can't even take the time to do your own research to form an educated opinion, why bother making a video? Edit Edit: You ALSO included footage from a TikTok meme video of her tracking pre-patch that was fixed over a year ago. At least the creator of the TikTok clip put in a little effort into their video. Edit Edit Edit: "a gust of wind knocked Yoi down" - Zhong-li exists, you should try it. Edit x4: Yoimiya doesn't play circle impact and doesn't need Bennett because Yun-Jin AND Mika exist. Edit x5: You didn't even mention how f2p friendly she is. If that isn't ignorant enough, you also forgot that mobile exists. Units like her are far superior to more intensive units like Hu-Tao. Ayato is another example of this.
Hot Take I think Yoimiya is not as bad as you make her out to be. Is she Single Target Locked? Oh absoluteley and It can be a problem BUT !!! Current Abysses have Floors where one Side is a Single Boss like the Current one with the Chicken, PMA and that Machine Thing and I think Hoyo will make more Abysses like these in the Future and Yoimiya will be a lot better of an Option than someone like Yanfei. She may not use Xianyun but Furina herself was a very good buff for her and she can use the Furina,Yelan core very well alongside Benny or any other Healer like Jean or Charlotte. Sure you kinda need an Shielder or be a God at Dodging (which is not that Hard tbh) but Its not as Bad of you mess up her ICD because if you build her right with Decent Artifacts even her Weaker hits can do good DMG. Also one Positive I think she has over for example is that she doesn't need any ER because her Burst Sucks Ass, while Yanfei desperately needs it. Just buff her with Supports and do your Normal attacks. So yeah like I said I dont think Yoimiya is as Bad as you say But I CAN understand your arguments :3. (Btw sorry if my English Gramma Sucks ass its not my 1st Language)
Isn't tao do more charged atks in the rotation than lyney in about the same duration also with fuuena cloud tao has aoe and hee team mates probably do more dmg than Lynne's also lynne requires a shield so he doesn't get interrupted while tao moves alot because of her playstyle also she have inherit intruption risstance so she doesn't want a shield Tbh i don't have Lynne i wish his sister was the 5 star pyro dps but i don't see how lynee takes number 1 spot over tao
When you gain some proficiency with him, you wont be needing a shielder as much anymore and if you use him in teams like lyney-furina vape…he can outdmg tao in shorter timeframe due to his massive frontload. He is perfect for speedrunner becuz he can both do consistent dmg and deal huge frontload to finish enemy for. In CN commu…when it comes to speedrun tournamnet he is the #2 most pick/ban (#1 is nevi ofc) Well, he is harder to pull off thou so general player (and maybe mobile player) wont be able to use him to his full potential.
I agree that Yoimiya has many issues however you shat on her for many things she shares with other characters in this list. All of these characters can be played without a shielder if you're good enough, the footage in this video shows it. The tracking issue would be more credible if you had shown new footage AFTER the adjustment. The lack of play optimization is a lie, that you can't pull it off is another thing, You say that everyone depends on bennett but isn't Yoimiya the only character here who has an actual alternative in Yun Jin? Some issues you mentioned with Arle are shared with Lyney. Finally there's one thing that Yoimiya has that no one else shares, she is the only 5* pyro DPS that isn't annoying to play, of course you could get good and learn how to cancel with Klee or how to chain Yanfei, CA cancels with Hu tao and what not but as of today she is the only character in this category that is actually friendly to the Genshin playerbase, remember that while you may have no issue making a good rotation followed by an specific combo most of the playerbase struggles to even breathe without drooling on themselves, so what's easier? Zhongli Hold E. Yelan/XQ Q-E, Yunjin Q-E. Yoimiya E and spam click. Or. Anyone else minding the VV/Bennett durations and with combos looking like this after the set up: CA jump cancel X5 NA X2 or CA X 3 Q, move around to hit the enemies E, repeat if you can or NACA jump cancel whatever amount of times Klee can do so? We have so many characters that are single target as fuck but the only one that gets shit is Yoimiya because when it comes to that suddenly everyone is a master at hitting multiple enemies with Hu Tao CA, we have so many characters that depend on specific ICD timings but she is the only one that gets shit because it's forgivable on others for no reason, we have so many characters that depend on shielders/IR to not be interrupted but let's give shit to Yoimiya because getting flung across the room as Lyney isn't as bad somehow. Then these same content creators go onto another video saying that Neuvillette C1 isn't needed to just play him with a shielder or dodge, pick a lane, are your viewers stupid or capable? is this video aimed at what skill bracket exactly? because most of what you despict here isn't exactly something that little timmy on a 2017 tablet could pull off but somehow it's still a negative on Yoimiya to be easier to play? Sorry for the essay but I don't get the hypocrisy, and it's not only on Yoimiya but every single character here, I'm not even sure if saying she is the lowest DPS among all of these is accurate but as someone who has every single character here abyss ready (Arle on the way as well) I can tell you that half of the issues aren't real and the other half are shared.
The difference between the best yoimiya team and the best Hu Tao team can be up to 20k DPS which is massive while offering less AOE. But yeah the tracking problem are overblown and they all get fucked over without defensive utility.
@@jijidu69right now its about 10k. Yoimiyas best team in the calcs I've seen is with chevy at 75k~ and the best hu tao team I've seen is around 83k although some people probably calc'd like 86k. It's not 20k blud.
and if she's not running a vape team she doesn't really give a fuck about ICD timings or even getting her full N5 combo because as raw damage goes she's got really consistent MVs across the whole string (so there goes the backloaded issue, too) Also, the gameplay optimization you mentioned involves dashing, which you can use to reposition her in Bennet's circle
@@apostlerecap Kazuha burst can infuse with other elements that's the definition of not reliable, the circumstances can push you out of the circle, the reduced mobility because you're confined to the circle to deal your optimal damage is what makes what HotPeppeLala said true. Lyney for example has a quasi long duration on his burst and even tho the buff lingers for a bit if you're at the edge and get out you lose it by the end, that's not reliable. Hu Tao can hit multiple enemies with a well aimed CA but having to mind the circle makes it not reliable because you can't position yourself freely. To have a reliable AoE despite being dependent on Bennett you need a character that snapshots most of the damage and Xiangling isn't on this list so no one who is qualifies, is not about Kazuha is about the pyro DPS characters not being able to leave the circle without consequences.
Why is your yoimiya hitting like that even with Kazuha and Furina + abyss buffs? You even have her weapon and what do you mean bad tracking? The video youve shown was years ago that has now been patched.
Yoimiya might be better than you think. Not saying her playstyle is not that bad because it is that bad. However she has high sheetdps with the assumption that enemy wont hit you 😂. About leyney and hu tao. Hu tao Being tied to vape isn't that important because the number of vape teams she has is actually quit big. And her playstyle isn't favorable to many but its still better than leyney. So i think she should be first. Also klee should be higher than diluc because she has more team options and not that reliat on an specific unit. About arlechino she has the highest team dps on spreadsheets for now(at c0). And her dmg is frontloaded. And all her consolations are good(other than c5). But she cant be healed which WILL cause problems for most people. Also she is much less reliant on doing full normal ATK combo than yoimiya. And why Bennet and Xiangling arent there btw?
google Klee c2 jokes aside, yoimiya is way too single target and has less synergy with Furina than Klee, who has a lot of synergy with Furina, practically giving 5 star amber a death sentence.
This is basically whale investment furina-xianyun plunge tierlist. Also how can you get all characters in right team except yoimiya? All you did was slapping her in a whaled up double hydro team with no synergy whatsoever. Can't be any more misleading than this for majority of players. Yoi takes are mostly bad combined with awful team choice and investment, but this is so far the worst example I have seen, it's as if the player never plays Yoimiya before. Also animation cancel on yoi also existed from day one. It's not that learning cancels can improve Hu Tao a lot, she just sucks without cancelling.
Geo Lyney with Zhongli and Chiori and Bennett is his best comfy team right now so that’s an option. It doesn’t do as well as his non shield teams but it’s good enough for abyss and very smooth to play.
Yoimiya's one of my favorite characters in the game and my favorite pyro character in general. Because of this, it genuinely HURTS how dirty they did her meta/gameplay wise. From Abysmal banner timings, sub-par kit, little to no buffs that push her beyond the rut she's currently in, can't use Xianyun, etc. I still love my firecracker and wouldn't abandon her for the world. But it certainly sucks when my favorite pyros (Yoi and Dehya) both are great characters but poor gameplay. I really hope she gets SOME sort of big buff in the future (characters, weapons, artifacts etc)
Bruh. I had to check the title because DPS ranking? Where? I thought it was a " Why Yoimiya sucks" type of video. Using a niche team to shit on Yoimiya and putting Klee ( no Klee hate she's just an old character and she's hard to master ) and an UNRELEASED character ahead is crazy. Also, how many bow users have built in interrupt resistance? Bring a shielder. I'm not a Yoi fan, she kinda catfished me but her section was just a rant. Her kit is a mess, tracking is a bow issue, but her dps is good and she's very easy to use. Definately not dead fucking last. I won't comment about others because I'm too biased 😂 Don't get me wrong, if you want to make a rant video go ahead, they're fun, but this wasn't it. 😅
@@gizdra1128 Yup, you got me. I'm really bad. But somehow got lucky into clearing Floor 12 with 9 stars every single time with Yoimiya and other trash units like Dehya.
Dunno about arlechinno but lyney best team can outdmg hutao and no I’m not talking about only mono-pyro… im talking about vaping with lyney and furina(yes lyney can play vape with furina & kazuha). You will have to sacrifice shielder for that thou and its harder to execute properly.
I'm sorry but Xiangling still a strongest Pyro DPS ever made here why: 1.She doesn't need to be onfield to does damage 2.She can vape avery "pyronado" hit with no ICD on it 3.She can buff onfield units with her cons 4.She can using any polearm with any stats 5.She free at the beginning of the game 6.She can snapshot with her burst that mean in 14s you have all buff to destroy everthing.
I mean every dps in the video are all onfield. Xiangling is great her utility strong but her most dmg comes from off-field pyronado. Sure she has no ICD but Lyney also has non. Basically speaking she is not doing more dmg onfield comparing to these top 3 spot. It is fine off-field she is still da best pyro comparing to Dehya, utility wise still use to this day > da best off-field pyro dps to this day.
Xiangling does not do the most damage in almost all of her teams. Whether it's with hu tao, neuvillette, lyney, klee, furina, wriothesley, cyno chev teams, raiden chev teams etc. She just isn't built like that. She is obviously the most valuable unit here but still. If we made a team built around maximising her damage, she might unironically score lower dps than even plundge spam teams.
@@putent9623Clearing bottom half of 4.2 abyss in 43 seconds in 0 cost sucrose national begs to differ. Like seriously, until Xianyun rolled around, a C0 Hu Tao objectively could not dream of matching a C6 XL's DPR.
XL is the best sub-dps but she could not replace a main dps role like hutao or lyney for example. Try making her stand on a prolong fight or without bennet and we shall see what will happen.
I think saying hu tao's tied to vape is not that accurate, it's devinitely her best archetype but she's still really good in mono pyro/chevy teams, you included gaming's mono pyro and chevy teams sooo ...
@@saberbestgirl6469 gaming is terrible in those teams i'm just saying that explaining she's vape locked while mentioning those teams for him is weird, also how do chev teams go against her kit ?
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 while it is true that she has relatively low -50% uptime even in bennettless chevy teams, she does get to run mh wich does close the gap a bit and gets to have good sub dps characters like xiangling and fishcl, i've personnaly prefered playing her chevy teams over gaming's against bosses but there is a case to be made that it's because my hu tao's c1, also if you prefer sims, there are pretty high dpr teams at low investment for chevy hu tao that match some of her furinaless teams
His pyrotechnic strike has a little bit of aoe, his skill hv decent aoe, and his burst has really good aoe. U would probably want a groupper like kazu or venti thou.
i’d agree with you on hu tao at 2nd, if vape wasn’t the best reaction in the game, being tied to vape isn’t bad and on top of that she has the same flexibility as lyney with vape, furina, double geo, on top of that you need 2 more pyro characters with lyney to max out his dps
1.Vape isnt the best reaction in the game 2. Hutao double geo is an ancient relic thats significantly worse than her VV vape or double hydro archetypes. With lyney, u can also use furina instead of one other Pyro character. Plus, XL is free and bennet is also free.
@@deltaspecies1697I’m guessing you’re referring to hyperbloom? It’s great but vape is still really good and depending on the characters, it has better aoe
@@deltaspecies1697 besides bloom and transformative reactions like it, vape is actually some of the best for pyro dps cause it’s more consistent, on top of that double geo isn’t an accent relic that’s “worse” it’s still a good comp that makes up for the double hydro effect with the geo resonance, also furina allows bennet on a hu tao team as well, and water boy (i can’t spell his name) can also be obtained for free, even if you don’t choose him, pulling can get you one since he’s from launch basically
@flw7797 double geo does not make up for anything bruh. Its just worse than double hydro. Now with the release of albedo 2.0 its actually pretty good for lyney and hu tao but it's still worse for their other teams
The Lyney sneak is insane. Especially when your issue with Alrechino being her defensive utility while showing lyney clips where his misses his shots and gets knocked around by enemies.
Hey Flip do you think you're gonna do this for electro characters at some point? They're also kinda dps orientated and I think it'd be interesting. Probably best for after 2.7 comes out with Sethos and Clorinde coming.
so the best for hardcore tryhard players : Lyney , the best the casuals with skill issues (like me) : Arlecchino .. (sorry had to give something to father)
I know it's fun to hate on Yoi, and any resistance sounds like simping, but for the sake of the community: Yoimiya is the single most valuable pyro DPS by FAR. In every category she's probably a "B-" but she is the ONLY pyro DPS that can actually score in EVERY category. What I mean is a base Yoi team like the one I use of Zhongli, Fischl, and Yelan (or Xingqiu) can clear every floor of every abyss that ever came out. There is not a single other pyro DPS in the game that can do the same. Especially without using multiple S-tier 5*s such as Furina, Kazuha, and Xianyun. Flexibility is FAR more important than strength in Genshin because they love to cancel out characters with specific enemies that become unhittable to much of the cast. Don't care if people hate on her, strictly talking about account value for new players looking to get the most out of their pulls. If you want the most useful pyro DPS, it's not even close.
@@jy1178 Yes. If you've played the game since the beginning, this really shouldn't be controversial. Genshin designs the abyss to favor and occasionally directly nullify certain characters. These "nerfs" affect Yoimiya the least because of her DMG flexibility. That's really all I'm saying. Arlecchino is actually dethroning her, not because she does a ton more DMG like many other DPS, but because she's nearly equally flexible about how and when she can do it.
@@nottyseel949 there have been zero abyss cycles that Yoimiya can do and the other pyro dps characters cannot though, I don't get what flexibility you speak of. They all play in pretty much the same teams.
@@jy1178 I assume that if the stars align every DPS can clear every floor of the abyss, but 9 out of 10 runs will be a reset when the enemy is uncooperative. The abyss is nearly entirely about timing and positioning and the enemies deliberately do things to mess those two situations up. How does Hu Tao, Klee, or Diluc knock the Robot Chicken out of the sky for example? Flexibility: -apply pyro without wasting their DPS rotation -do damage without wasting their DPS rotation -consistently hit specters and flying mobs -kill pyro specters solo -break a pyro shield in mono pyro -kill 15 doggos without Kaz, Venti, or Bennett -deal with the 4 ruin robots no matter where they teleport -hit the geo dog boss with max DPS his no matter which move he starts with -doesn't need to reset because of getting pushed out of Bennett's circle -doesn't need to reset because the enemy sprinted away from Bennett's circle -apply pyro fast enough to kill multiple abyss lecters. -doesn't need burst/particles/feeder There's more, but I really can't remember all of the abyss cycles and I think you get the point. Some other pyro characters have some of these traits, but Yoi has ALL of them. So, any complication that would force a reset OR force them to add a very specific teammate does not affect her teams. That's what I mean by account value.
@@nottyseel949 How does Hu Tao ect. knock the robot chicken out of the sky?" ....they bring Yelan or Fischl. Everything else you wrote is cope lol literally every pyro dps can deal with all of those situations just as good, and most often better than Yoimiya.
shitting on arlecchino for having no survivability when for one you can just fucking dodge lol and also her ult is a full heal is wild, this video is so wrong
I know C6 Furina Dosen't Counts but her plunge vape is literally The Highest DPS and DPR in the Entire game even Surpassing Neuvillette himself (Btw im a C4R1 Neuvillette main so don't attack me) Her plunge vape Dmg on average is 1.4 Million per plunge and with a good build she can go 2 million, you can do 3-4 Plunges per rotation. So a good build C6 Furina with Key can do 6-8 Million DMG per rotation.
If we’re playing reset impact with lyney I don’t see how gaming isn’t on par with hu tao. Gaming has lots of skill expression by reacting to man chai and the mechanically intensive double swirl set ups. Gaming has more teams and does dps on par if not better than hu tao. Gaming has many easy f2p weapons and can run a full 4 star team and compete with hu tao and even surpass her in dps and abyss clears at equal investment. The main problem with gaming is that he’s inconsistent and hard to play but if u put lyney at the top who has those same problems I don’t see why you wouldn’t give the same privilege to gaming. Also obvious arle was better than u thought.
You had to not include xiangling because we all know, in hearts of hearts Xiangling is the pyro archon (the best dps)and her only competition is a C6 benny with jade cutter
Lyney has the highest ceiling as a pyro dps but in practice is usually worse than hutao which is why most people put hutao over lyney, since hutao doesn't lose as much output from zhongli or actually gains output from xianyun furina and bennett vv vape
Flip is one of those people that you will completely agree with or disagree with so much that you would like to personally meet him just to see what is inside his brain. Also like Genshin meta is not important cause I 36 spiral abyss using on field Furina with Candace on an atk% build so like....
Ngl i agree on all except arleccheno because i dont wanna misjudge her until she is out and i play test her and how hard she feels to play with her being unable to heal But good video nonetheless, also lyney shouldn't be on top that should be bennet 😂/jk but seriously bennet carry with double hydro xianyun tend to preform better than even most pyro carries
Yeah I agree. I think Lyney's damage is crazy. I actually got him BECAUSE of his damage, which I usually don't get characters solely for that. But his damage in the trial was CRAZY. My strongest character is still Itto though, for some reason. Bad artifact luck I guess.
Where's dehya amber xinyan... I guess most of those could go into plunge but it would have been fun assesing their original kit too since this isn't a serious guide for beginners anyways.
I would recommend you try yoimiya overload team with chevy (my Chevy is c1 and she make yoimiya team feel very good and deal good damage with beidou aoe) I have all these pyro dps accross 2 accounts Hu tao benched (did not like her nor her gameplay) Lyne (very hard to play, mostly played him in mono pyro and rarely hav the corage to use him in floor 12m i did this abyss but tbh Xiangling was doing most the damage at that point) Diluc (benched since early inazuma) Dehya (convert for a support after I got massive disappointed by her dps) Yanfie (i did not build) Ga ming c6 is fun but not my go to for pyro character also i like to play him with yelan xianyun instead of furina Xiangling (please hoyo give us another Xinagling we need more off field pyro DPS) Benny (true pyro archon very flexible till hoyo put concentrated beast in abyss)
This is a tier list that I can fully agree with. I built 5 of these pyro DPS who do the same thing, and i thought diluc would be as fun to use as gaming, but hell no, damn wrong i was. Maybe i just suck at playing him, his team is clunky to use, slow at clearing mobs, inconsistent vape, and low damage. I can totally see why my C3 diluc is a waste of teyvat's oxygen, top 3% with serpant spine on akasha btw. NGL, although i dont have yoimiya, i think he deserves to be below her (for gameplay experience).
3:01 What are you even yapping about at least when you're trying to be nurd to be good nerd and tell that Lisa have the highest damage in the game even though she is the worst character in that game also I know that kirara and geo Daddy have a lot of damage multiplayer on their burst but I'm not sure how much because I'm not nurd like you 🤥
flip fills me up to the brim with so much TC knowledge that it's practically dripping out of me 😍
Pause?
@FliponYT don't worry this is what every comment section looks like now👍
but did you give consent before he filled you? 🚔
Flip backshots so much knowledge inside me that I randomly start leaking so much tc knowledge in middle of the day from time to time @@MojtaAS
@MojtaAS I would assume so considering the emoji he used
Although he has a Hu Tao pfp so maybe not
Had to exclude Xiangling cause she would cook the competition (GUOBA NO DIFF 🗣🔥)
Guoba is a god disqualified for unfairness
Nah gaming is better
Yeah sureeeee
She is best
Best offield pyro ofc, and one and only
@@DioBrando-xo7zd Thoma mains bouta find your location with their gallons of copium and burgeon comp.
Arlecchino when the competition is c3 yanfei and rust yoimiya.
Grass is the best Pyro DPS
Burning best reaction
Lol.... that's so true
Grass so op hoyo had to nerf it
You kinda forgot that Arle relies on BoL, so her highest multipliers are in the beginning
My brain unlearnt it after her EQE split rotations as it isn’t the case there for the the most part
@@FliponYT After the amount of changes, everyone just kinda gave up and waited for last week
waiting for part 2 where xinyan is rightfully ranked no1
My fault gang
The best DEF scaling Pyro DPS indeed
finally someone putting respect in lyney name.
He's way too underrated
@@ajbrawlstars8844 Fr
Lyney is stronger than hutao he just needs expensive supports and weapons
He's also less popular that's why people say he's mid
@@w444rbvthe amount of Lyney hate makes no sense
@@w444rbvoh the Hutao mains copes every time a new Pyro dps comes out ,let them be at this point
Imagine being yoimiya. She always runs besides ultra hyped units is already not the best pyro dps and a unit comes out that buffs almost everyone with the same role except her. She definitily needs a hug.
Devs have to hate her
I mean, her reruns... always w/ the worst matchup for her banners, is already a big enough indication that they hate her.
@FliponYT u hate her too 😭😭
She needs more representation from influencers that know what they're doing. There's a reason people respect her damage potential. Nobody wants to admit that it's EXTREMELY EASY AND F2P FRIENDLY to reach that level. If there's actually any new players reading this; just know that with a rust and lvl 4 talents with a 2pc/2pc 18% atk setup you could do more dmg than was shown here... likely by lvl 60.
Not including Dehya is WILD.
Also the best Pyro Dps is obviously Himeko. Not these frauds.
Also, Flip, when is the next court ?
Next court by the end of this month
@@FliponYT👀 Can we get a hint?
2 weeks later and we all know how wrong he was 😂
Arlecchino is leading by a lot just after 1 week
fr, its hilarious that some people just do some shit excel sheets, call themselves TC and people just believe anything they say
You can tell this video came out before Arlecchino was released lol
It doesn’t really change my list
@@FliponYT nah dawg you're delusional
This is a aquila level take right here lol
Lyney’s my main, I was hesitant at first with the Charged bow attack playstyle, but the more and more I use him, the more satisfying his front loaded damage is. Plus, with defensive options, he’s a lot more comfy and his damage makes up for the slot. More so with vertical investment.
As much as I agree with the choice, Flip I think you just put him on top because he can work well on Cheveruse teams… and in turn Fischl 😂
My hate for Chev leaving the room the moment i find out that I can use her to still Fischl
Flip should do a genshin court on himself for this video, it aged like milk. Arlecchino on the same level as Gaming? Be fr
😂😂 I was just about to comment this. Bro gotta stop drinking before theorycrafting
No dijo mentiras😳, C6 Gaming > C0 Arlecchino, por más que lloren es la verdad
Y’all are sleeping on gaming 0 cost gaming is on par with 4 cost arle
Even in the comments someone pointed out how it's obvious this vid was made before her release, and Flip replied by saying his list wouldn't change. He is beyond delusional
how are there 8 on-field pyro and only a single off-field? first xiangling competitor will be the highest grossing banner of all time i swear
Pyro archon
And we're most likely getting more in natlan
Are u good with leaks I can tell you the next off field pyro applicator
@@itzKhalhuh is there one?
It is crazy, though, to have so many pyro DPS already. With Natlan around the corner, dropping Arlecchino and Gaming during Fontaine feels like pitching any kind of Pyro DPS during Natlan is going to be a hard sell.
There are other niches that could be filled out, and we need people other than Bennet and Xiangling, but there's no way the PYRO nation isn't going to have another pyro DPS drop
lyney number 1 pyro DPS?
my respect for you,📈 finally a good take
I love how you dunk on Yoimiya while showing footage of her cranking the Abyss like it's an overworld encounter. :D
Me: watching Bennett do plunge+vape damage that makes me wonder why my Hu Tao doesn't do that much damage. :(
Was so confused watching this & realized this came out before Arlecchino was released xD Makes sense
lyney may be miserable sometimes as a CA bow user but have you considered that twinks are based?
We love femboys here
Im still hoping for the day that there would be an off field pyro unit who shoots fireballs similar to yelans/xinqiu ult
If only klee’s burst didn’t stop when she left field… everyone would want her if this was the case.
She wouldnt even be OP and Xiangling may still be better so idk why hoyoverse didn’t do this
Lyney, the best representation a power bottom could have
Real people already bottoming him so hard that hu Tao end up on top.
As much as Lyney strong and has nice frontloaded damage, CA bow DPS is the most terrible torture created by humanity so I'd always play Hu Tao over him.
Well u don't hv to CA always like ganyu tho his skill and burst also deals way lot . Well this is subjective but i feel playing hutao is way annoying than lyney.
@@ajbrawlstars8844sounds like a skill issue
Saved me typing this! 💯
Eh back during 1.X most TCers considered Ganyu to be the best DPS due to having essentially no caveats if you could aim. Lyney is the same way. It’s just that abyss/enemy design has grown more aggressive since then. There are definitely DPS now with fewer caveats than Lyney (Neuv, Raiden, Haitham, Navia) but none of them are pyro.
@@mainfish88so playing lyney doesn't require skills ig anyway i play on mobile
QiQi is best pyro dps because she consolidates healing for fanfare stacking and dps.
TRUE
I'd put Yoimiya in last too if I didn't know what a Yoimiya team looked like. That dmg in the background was dogwater. If you're going to say she's a bad unit at least invest enough to form an educated opinion. How do you even finish an attack chain (her last shot deals the most dmg) with 55k? You had Furina on your team, and that was after a swirl in a Kazuha ult.
Edit: you forgot Dehya and still claim she's the worst pyro dps? Brother if you can't even take the time to do your own research to form an educated opinion, why bother making a video?
Edit Edit: You ALSO included footage from a TikTok meme video of her tracking pre-patch that was fixed over a year ago. At least the creator of the TikTok clip put in a little effort into their video.
Edit Edit Edit: "a gust of wind knocked Yoi down" - Zhong-li exists, you should try it.
Edit x4: Yoimiya doesn't play circle impact and doesn't need Bennett because Yun-Jin AND Mika exist.
Edit x5: You didn't even mention how f2p friendly she is. If that isn't ignorant enough, you also forgot that mobile exists. Units like her are far superior to more intensive units like Hu-Tao. Ayato is another example of this.
I did not know Yoimiya had shooters like this 😭🙏
Yoimiya is ass and my Diluc does more damage then your triple crowned limited 5 star. Cope and seethe.
I don't play Yoimiya anymore coz I find her playstyle a lil boring but you hit the nail with every point
Absolutely based omg.
give me some of that cope pls
Hot Take I think Yoimiya is not as bad as you make her out to be.
Is she Single Target Locked? Oh absoluteley and It can be a problem BUT !!!
Current Abysses have Floors where one Side is a Single Boss like the Current one with the Chicken, PMA and that Machine Thing and I think Hoyo will make more Abysses like these in the Future and Yoimiya will be a lot better of an Option than someone like Yanfei.
She may not use Xianyun but Furina herself was a very good buff for her and she can use the Furina,Yelan core very well alongside Benny or any other Healer like Jean or Charlotte.
Sure you kinda need an Shielder or be a God at Dodging (which is not that Hard tbh) but Its not as Bad of you mess up her ICD because if you build her right with Decent Artifacts even her Weaker hits can do good DMG.
Also one Positive I think she has over for example is that she doesn't need any ER because her Burst Sucks Ass, while Yanfei desperately needs it. Just buff her with Supports and do your Normal attacks.
So yeah like I said I dont think Yoimiya is as Bad as you say But I CAN understand your arguments :3.
(Btw sorry if my English Gramma Sucks ass its not my 1st Language)
Saul BennettIsBetterThanYourFavAsADamageDealerGoodMan
Isn't tao do more charged atks in the rotation than lyney in about the same duration also with fuuena cloud tao has aoe and hee team mates probably do more dmg than Lynne's also lynne requires a shield so he doesn't get interrupted while tao moves alot because of her playstyle also she have inherit intruption risstance so she doesn't want a shield
Tbh i don't have Lynne i wish his sister was the 5 star pyro dps but i don't see how lynee takes number 1 spot over tao
When you gain some proficiency with him, you wont be needing a shielder as much anymore and if you use him in teams like lyney-furina vape…he can outdmg tao in shorter timeframe due to his massive frontload. He is perfect for speedrunner becuz he can both do consistent dmg and deal huge frontload to finish enemy for. In CN commu…when it comes to speedrun tournamnet he is the #2 most pick/ban (#1 is nevi ofc) Well, he is harder to pull off thou so general player (and maybe mobile player) wont be able to use him to his full potential.
Lyney's "magic pocket" reigns supreme.
Hu tao been real quite since arlecchino came out
Yanfei might not be the strongest, but her playstyle and amount of QoL at C6 just makes her the most pleasant pyro carry to play.
REALL
I agree that Yoimiya has many issues however you shat on her for many things she shares with other characters in this list.
All of these characters can be played without a shielder if you're good enough, the footage in this video shows it.
The tracking issue would be more credible if you had shown new footage AFTER the adjustment.
The lack of play optimization is a lie, that you can't pull it off is another thing,
You say that everyone depends on bennett but isn't Yoimiya the only character here who has an actual alternative in Yun Jin?
Some issues you mentioned with Arle are shared with Lyney.
Finally there's one thing that Yoimiya has that no one else shares, she is the only 5* pyro DPS that isn't annoying to play, of course you could get good and learn how to cancel with Klee or how to chain Yanfei, CA cancels with Hu tao and what not but as of today she is the only character in this category that is actually friendly to the Genshin playerbase, remember that while you may have no issue making a good rotation followed by an specific combo most of the playerbase struggles to even breathe without drooling on themselves, so what's easier?
Zhongli Hold E. Yelan/XQ Q-E, Yunjin Q-E. Yoimiya E and spam click.
Or.
Anyone else minding the VV/Bennett durations and with combos looking like this after the set up: CA jump cancel X5 NA X2 or CA X 3 Q, move around to hit the enemies E, repeat if you can or NACA jump cancel whatever amount of times Klee can do so?
We have so many characters that are single target as fuck but the only one that gets shit is Yoimiya because when it comes to that suddenly everyone is a master at hitting multiple enemies with Hu Tao CA, we have so many characters that depend on specific ICD timings but she is the only one that gets shit because it's forgivable on others for no reason, we have so many characters that depend on shielders/IR to not be interrupted but let's give shit to Yoimiya because getting flung across the room as Lyney isn't as bad somehow.
Then these same content creators go onto another video saying that Neuvillette C1 isn't needed to just play him with a shielder or dodge, pick a lane, are your viewers stupid or capable? is this video aimed at what skill bracket exactly? because most of what you despict here isn't exactly something that little timmy on a 2017 tablet could pull off but somehow it's still a negative on Yoimiya to be easier to play?
Sorry for the essay but I don't get the hypocrisy, and it's not only on Yoimiya but every single character here, I'm not even sure if saying she is the lowest DPS among all of these is accurate but as someone who has every single character here abyss ready (Arle on the way as well) I can tell you that half of the issues aren't real and the other half are shared.
This guy gets it
The difference between the best yoimiya team and the best Hu Tao team can be up to 20k DPS which is massive while offering less AOE. But yeah the tracking problem are overblown and they all get fucked over without defensive utility.
@@jijidu69right now its about 10k. Yoimiyas best team in the calcs I've seen is with chevy at 75k~ and the best hu tao team I've seen is around 83k although some people probably calc'd like 86k.
It's not 20k blud.
and if she's not running a vape team she doesn't really give a fuck about ICD timings or even getting her full N5 combo because as raw damage goes she's got really consistent MVs across the whole string (so there goes the backloaded issue, too)
Also, the gameplay optimization you mentioned involves dashing, which you can use to reposition her in Bennet's circle
Pyro hillichurl>>>>>
He was able to break Baizuh’s shield fr.
Arlecchino is out and I think she is easy no. 1
As much as I want to agree with you, any dps who is bennett reliant does not have a reliable AoE
It honestly feels like that sometimes 😭
Except the King Afumedo
If you exclude Xiangling since she snapshots this is actually a very fair point.
That's nonsensical because a lot of them use bennet alongside kazuha. E.g lyney.
@@apostlerecap Kazuha burst can infuse with other elements that's the definition of not reliable, the circumstances can push you out of the circle, the reduced mobility because you're confined to the circle to deal your optimal damage is what makes what HotPeppeLala said true.
Lyney for example has a quasi long duration on his burst and even tho the buff lingers for a bit if you're at the edge and get out you lose it by the end, that's not reliable.
Hu Tao can hit multiple enemies with a well aimed CA but having to mind the circle makes it not reliable because you can't position yourself freely.
To have a reliable AoE despite being dependent on Bennett you need a character that snapshots most of the damage and Xiangling isn't on this list so no one who is qualifies, is not about Kazuha is about the pyro DPS characters not being able to leave the circle without consequences.
Why is your yoimiya hitting like that even with Kazuha and Furina + abyss buffs? You even have her weapon and what do you mean bad tracking? The video youve shown was years ago that has now been patched.
I'm going to pretend this video is just Yanfei glazing
Amazing video
Finally my boy getting the respect he deserves
Yoimiya might be better than you think. Not saying her playstyle is not that bad because it is that bad. However she has high sheetdps with the assumption that enemy wont hit you 😂. About leyney and hu tao. Hu tao Being tied to vape isn't that important because the number of vape teams she has is actually quit big. And her playstyle isn't favorable to many but its still better than leyney. So i think she should be first. Also klee should be higher than diluc because she has more team options and not that reliat on an specific unit.
About arlechino she has the highest team dps on spreadsheets for now(at c0). And her dmg is frontloaded. And all her consolations are good(other than c5). But she cant be healed which WILL cause problems for most people. Also she is much less reliant on doing full normal ATK combo than yoimiya.
And why Bennet and Xiangling arent there btw?
almost completely agreed good job
Is the almost Yoimiya
@@FliponYTdefinitely lyney
@treysmith9371 yes jello glazes hu tao a lot
Ain’t no way Klee rates better than Yoimiya 💀💀
I’d be fine getting a Yoimiya con but pulling Klee would feel like a 50/50 loss lmao
google Klee c2
jokes aside, yoimiya is way too single target and has less synergy with Furina than Klee, who has a lot of synergy with Furina, practically giving 5 star amber a death sentence.
This is basically whale investment furina-xianyun plunge tierlist. Also how can you get all characters in right team except yoimiya? All you did was slapping her in a whaled up double hydro team with no synergy whatsoever. Can't be any more misleading than this for majority of players. Yoi takes are mostly bad combined with awful team choice and investment, but this is so far the worst example I have seen, it's as if the player never plays Yoimiya before.
Also animation cancel on yoi also existed from day one. It's not that learning cancels can improve Hu Tao a lot, she just sucks without cancelling.
One thing i dont like about lyney is he is really squishy
Geo Lyney with Zhongli and Chiori and Bennett is his best comfy team right now so that’s an option. It doesn’t do as well as his non shield teams but it’s good enough for abyss and very smooth to play.
@@cmcguire7901 most teams are good enough for abyss 🤣
@@mirai-9318 ok so what’s the problem then? If you’re not speedrunning just run a comfy team and he won’t feel squishy.
Yoimiya's one of my favorite characters in the game and my favorite pyro character in general. Because of this, it genuinely HURTS how dirty they did her meta/gameplay wise. From Abysmal banner timings, sub-par kit, little to no buffs that push her beyond the rut she's currently in, can't use Xianyun, etc.
I still love my firecracker and wouldn't abandon her for the world. But it certainly sucks when my favorite pyros (Yoi and Dehya) both are great characters but poor gameplay. I really hope she gets SOME sort of big buff in the future (characters, weapons, artifacts etc)
Bruh. I had to check the title because DPS ranking? Where? I thought it was a " Why Yoimiya sucks" type of video. Using a niche team to shit on Yoimiya and putting Klee ( no Klee hate she's just an old character and she's hard to master ) and an UNRELEASED character ahead is crazy. Also, how many bow users have built in interrupt resistance? Bring a shielder.
I'm not a Yoi fan, she kinda catfished me but her section was just a rant. Her kit is a mess, tracking is a bow issue, but her dps is good and she's very easy to use. Definately not dead fucking last. I won't comment about others because I'm too biased 😂
Don't get me wrong, if you want to make a rant video go ahead, they're fun, but this wasn't it. 😅
Hutao makes up for her flat chest with massive damage. Perfect.
You mean character & damage, right?
If Yoimiya is ranked last - then I guess I must be a damn good player ;)
or you are really bad and you use it because you like it and that's it :D
@@gizdra1128 Yup, you got me. I'm really bad. But somehow got lucky into clearing Floor 12 with 9 stars every single time with Yoimiya and other trash units like Dehya.
@@gasman555crazy like how is that possible, like the game is so hard😂, ofc its clearable this ain't some dark Souls
every night i wake up crying, remembering how i skipped kazuha and used my guarantee for yoimiya when i was a wee ar 30.
I don't get it , how can lyney win against hu tao or arle
His sister is hotter than both
Dunno about arlechinno but lyney best team can outdmg hutao and no I’m not talking about only mono-pyro… im talking about vaping with lyney and furina(yes lyney can play vape with furina & kazuha). You will have to sacrifice shielder for that thou and its harder to execute properly.
Yoimiya slander will now be tolerated, your home address is being tracked as we speak
I will never accept a tier list that doesn't have Klee as Godly SSS+ and Hu Tao in absolute trash tier, 6 feet under, where she belongs.
I'm sorry but Xiangling still a strongest Pyro DPS ever made here why:
1.She doesn't need to be onfield to does damage
2.She can vape avery "pyronado" hit with no ICD on it
3.She can buff onfield units with her cons
4.She can using any polearm with any stats
5.She free at the beginning of the game
6.She can snapshot with her burst that mean in 14s you have all buff to destroy everthing.
I mean every dps in the video are all onfield. Xiangling is great her utility strong but her most dmg comes from off-field pyronado. Sure she has no ICD but Lyney also has non. Basically speaking she is not doing more dmg onfield comparing to these top 3 spot. It is fine off-field she is still da best pyro comparing to Dehya, utility wise still use to this day > da best off-field pyro dps to this day.
Xiangling does not do the most damage in almost all of her teams. Whether it's with hu tao, neuvillette, lyney, klee, furina, wriothesley, cyno chev teams, raiden chev teams etc. She just isn't built like that. She is obviously the most valuable unit here but still. If we made a team built around maximising her damage, she might unironically score lower dps than even plundge spam teams.
@@putent9623Clearing bottom half of 4.2 abyss in 43 seconds in 0 cost sucrose national begs to differ. Like seriously, until Xianyun rolled around, a C0 Hu Tao objectively could not dream of matching a C6 XL's DPR.
XL is the best sub-dps but she could not replace a main dps role like hutao or lyney for example. Try making her stand on a prolong fight or without bennet and we shall see what will happen.
I think saying hu tao's tied to vape is not that accurate, it's devinitely her best archetype but she's still really good in mono pyro/chevy teams, you included gaming's mono pyro and chevy teams sooo ...
Mono pyro she's worse than her contenders and her damage isn't as great and chev teams go against her entire kit.
@@saberbestgirl6469 gaming is terrible in those teams i'm just saying that explaining she's vape locked while mentioning those teams for him is weird, also how do chev teams go against her kit ?
@@jonathanettinger3104 Chev heals her. Sure Xianyun/Furina archetype exists but their dmg bonus *kinda* compensates HT's 33% Pyro DMG loss
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 while it is true that she has relatively low -50% uptime even in bennettless chevy teams, she does get to run mh wich does close the gap a bit and gets to have good sub dps characters like xiangling and fishcl, i've personnaly prefered playing her chevy teams over gaming's against bosses but there is a case to be made that it's because my hu tao's c1, also if you prefer sims, there are pretty high dpr teams at low investment for chevy hu tao that match some of her furinaless teams
Happy Father's day everyone!!
Where is this “Lyney AoE” you speak of? I am struggling to find it.
His pyrotechnic strike has a little bit of aoe, his skill hv decent aoe, and his burst has really good aoe. U would probably want a groupper like kazu or venti thou.
As a Hu Tao main and a Yoimiya stan...
I agree Lyney is the best pyro (he's mad underrated by the community)
I agree but EN community doesn't appreciate him. Meanwhile CN, JP 😮.
@@ShuraBeemhis only flaw is he's gay lol
@@leonardomeloni69 What? thats not canon
Lyney is the best. I said what I said.
Edit: AND APPARENTLY YOU DID TOO!!! GOOD JOB BBG 🥰🥰🥰
WAIT?! CHIORI LYNEY IS A VALID TEAM?!
SLAY
Also, Lyney is a switch. Not a bottom.
I love Lyney! ❤❤❤
LYNEY SEXO ❤❤❤❤
@@diamond_dust4164 Me too, he's the best girl 🥰
i’d agree with you on hu tao at 2nd, if vape wasn’t the best reaction in the game, being tied to vape isn’t bad and on top of that she has the same flexibility as lyney with vape, furina, double geo, on top of that you need 2 more pyro characters with lyney to max out his dps
1.Vape isnt the best reaction in the game
2. Hutao double geo is an ancient relic thats significantly worse than her VV vape or double hydro archetypes.
With lyney, u can also use furina instead of one other Pyro character. Plus, XL is free and bennet is also free.
I can see people run 2 pyro from time to time. Like in Lyney vape comb. Furina kazuha Lyney Bennet or Lyney survivor comb Lyney furina zhongli Bennet.
@@deltaspecies1697I’m guessing you’re referring to hyperbloom? It’s great but vape is still really good and depending on the characters, it has better aoe
@@deltaspecies1697 besides bloom and transformative reactions like it, vape is actually some of the best for pyro dps cause it’s more consistent, on top of that double geo isn’t an accent relic that’s “worse” it’s still a good comp that makes up for the double hydro effect with the geo resonance, also furina allows bennet on a hu tao team as well, and water boy (i can’t spell his name) can also be obtained for free, even if you don’t choose him, pulling can get you one since he’s from launch basically
@flw7797 double geo does not make up for anything bruh. Its just worse than double hydro.
Now with the release of albedo 2.0 its actually pretty good for lyney and hu tao but it's still worse for their other teams
The Lyney sneak is insane. Especially when your issue with Alrechino being her defensive utility while showing lyney clips where his misses his shots and gets knocked around by enemies.
This guy gets it lol
Lyney still claps
@@apostlerecap Lyney is gonna get spanked by his dad
@@treysmith9371lyney is gonna do to his dad what sasukes older brother did to theirs.
@@treysmith9371 The Traveler is Lyney's new daddy
Subaru praise jump scare
Very based indeed
Hey Flip do you think you're gonna do this for electro characters at some point? They're also kinda dps orientated and I think it'd be interesting. Probably best for after 2.7 comes out with Sethos and Clorinde coming.
When we get to the last beta cycle sure!
@@FliponYT So how about it? I understand if your video backlog is a bit full though.
so the best for hardcore tryhard players : Lyney , the best the casuals with skill issues (like me) : Arlecchino .. (sorry had to give something to father)
The best for skill issue would be plunge Bennet by far. Like there is absolutely nothing hard to do with him.
It depends but we can all agree arlecchino is the best on-field (We haven't seen her damage yet but eh)
After seeing her outperform my way more built hu tao at lvl 60- yes. We can.
Putting Klee and Yanfie ahead of Yoimiya? I think you just personally have an issue with her kit.
Guoba watching this from the upper realm:
I know it's fun to hate on Yoi, and any resistance sounds like simping, but for the sake of the community:
Yoimiya is the single most valuable pyro DPS by FAR. In every category she's probably a "B-" but she is the ONLY pyro DPS that can actually score in EVERY category. What I mean is a base Yoi team like the one I use of Zhongli, Fischl, and Yelan (or Xingqiu) can clear every floor of every abyss that ever came out.
There is not a single other pyro DPS in the game that can do the same. Especially without using multiple S-tier 5*s such as Furina, Kazuha, and Xianyun.
Flexibility is FAR more important than strength in Genshin because they love to cancel out characters with specific enemies that become unhittable to much of the cast.
Don't care if people hate on her, strictly talking about account value for new players looking to get the most out of their pulls. If you want the most useful pyro DPS, it's not even close.
Are you saying that there's no other pyro 5 star that can consistently 3 star abyss? Lol
If so, that's some major cope my guy
@@jy1178 Yes. If you've played the game since the beginning, this really shouldn't be controversial. Genshin designs the abyss to favor and occasionally directly nullify certain characters. These "nerfs" affect Yoimiya the least because of her DMG flexibility. That's really all I'm saying.
Arlecchino is actually dethroning her, not because she does a ton more DMG like many other DPS, but because she's nearly equally flexible about how and when she can do it.
@@nottyseel949 there have been zero abyss cycles that Yoimiya can do and the other pyro dps characters cannot though, I don't get what flexibility you speak of. They all play in pretty much the same teams.
@@jy1178 I assume that if the stars align every DPS can clear every floor of the abyss, but 9 out of 10 runs will be a reset when the enemy is uncooperative. The abyss is nearly entirely about timing and positioning and the enemies deliberately do things to mess those two situations up.
How does Hu Tao, Klee, or Diluc knock the Robot Chicken out of the sky for example?
Flexibility:
-apply pyro without wasting their DPS rotation
-do damage without wasting their DPS rotation
-consistently hit specters and flying mobs
-kill pyro specters solo
-break a pyro shield in mono pyro
-kill 15 doggos without Kaz, Venti, or Bennett
-deal with the 4 ruin robots no matter where they teleport
-hit the geo dog boss with max DPS his no matter which move he starts with
-doesn't need to reset because of getting pushed out of Bennett's circle
-doesn't need to reset because the enemy sprinted away from Bennett's circle
-apply pyro fast enough to kill multiple abyss lecters.
-doesn't need burst/particles/feeder
There's more, but I really can't remember all of the abyss cycles and I think you get the point. Some other pyro characters have some of these traits, but Yoi has ALL of them. So, any complication that would force a reset OR force them to add a very specific teammate does not affect her teams. That's what I mean by account value.
@@nottyseel949 How does Hu Tao ect. knock the robot chicken out of the sky?"
....they bring Yelan or Fischl.
Everything else you wrote is cope lol literally every pyro dps can deal with all of those situations just as good, and most often better than Yoimiya.
Freminet being here out of nowhere is crazy😂
Anyway gd list but arlechino below hu tao ig u hv started a war👍
shitting on arlecchino for having no survivability when for one you can just fucking dodge lol and also her ult is a full heal is wild, this video is so wrong
I know C6 Furina Dosen't Counts but her plunge vape is literally The Highest DPS and DPR in the Entire game even Surpassing Neuvillette himself (Btw im a C4R1 Neuvillette main so don't attack me)
Her plunge vape Dmg on average is 1.4 Million per plunge and with a good build she can go 2 million, you can do 3-4 Plunges per rotation. So a good build C6 Furina with Key can do 6-8 Million DMG per rotation.
What about Wrio C6?
@@manday2267 Does he can do 1 Million+ Per plunge melt consistently?? because i haven't seen anything like that on RUclips.
@@SainInabanhis CA does tho. I see him 1 shot 3 Chambers in a row lmao.
lol best speedrun team is c6 wrio melt. melt is just that strong.
Nah, Bennett is the best pyro dps, you literally can't dps without him
His plunges are also higher than any other plunger because he can free up a slot for another support.
HAVENT WATCHED IT BUT LYNEY IS THE BEST RIGHT?
I HAVE A TOP 1% HU TAO WHO CAN ONE ROT GRAVITY LEGEND IN ABYSS BUT LYNEY IS DEFO STRONGER
The bottom joke😭 you dirty flip
Same, I have a top 1% Hutao too but you gotta agree that Lyney is better in multitargets
And on top of that Lyney has cheaper supports than Hutao
If we’re playing reset impact with lyney I don’t see how gaming isn’t on par with hu tao. Gaming has lots of skill expression by reacting to man chai and the mechanically intensive double swirl set ups. Gaming has more teams and does dps on par if not better than hu tao. Gaming has many easy f2p weapons and can run a full 4 star team and compete with hu tao and even surpass her in dps and abyss clears at equal investment. The main problem with gaming is that he’s inconsistent and hard to play but if u put lyney at the top who has those same problems I don’t see why you wouldn’t give the same privilege to gaming. Also obvious arle was better than u thought.
Gaming has powerful melt teams that absolutely destroy the abyss at zero cost.
I find it funny that yoi mains can still batchest her after nevuwet, xianyun, gaming/diluc fiasco
1:55 why is furina on healing?
Don’t ask questions when you aren’t ready for the answers
@@FliponYTno one will ever be ready for that answer
@@FliponYT Dont be stupid and be mad when people ask questions
@@X3R0u WHAT
@@FliponYT You saw and heard me. You were being stupid and i called you out for it!!!
You had to not include xiangling because we all know, in hearts of hearts Xiangling is the pyro archon (the best dps)and her only competition is a C6 benny with jade cutter
Idk man lyney doesnt feels very good against aggresive enemies
If it's not about the shields/IR then maybe the CA bow gameplay isn't to your taste, he can be annoying against some enemies that move a lot I agree.
Lyney has the highest ceiling as a pyro dps but in practice is usually worse than hutao which is why most people put hutao over lyney, since hutao doesn't lose as much output from zhongli or actually gains output from xianyun furina and bennett vv vape
You need to be REALLY good at aiming if you want a good practical use of Lyney
Flip is one of those people that you will completely agree with or disagree with so much that you would like to personally meet him just to see what is inside his brain. Also like Genshin meta is not important cause I 36 spiral abyss using on field Furina with Candace on an atk% build so like....
Ngl i agree on all except arleccheno because i dont wanna misjudge her until she is out and i play test her and how hard she feels to play with her being unable to heal
But good video nonetheless, also lyney shouldn't be on top that should be bennet 😂/jk but seriously bennet carry with double hydro xianyun tend to preform better than even most pyro carries
You dare slander my lovely femboy, I’ll find you.
Yeah I agree. I think Lyney's damage is crazy. I actually got him BECAUSE of his damage, which I usually don't get characters solely for that. But his damage in the trial was CRAZY.
My strongest character is still Itto though, for some reason. Bad artifact luck I guess.
is flip a cute E-Girl？😍
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Where’s oppa XL
Where's dehya amber xinyan... I guess most of those could go into plunge but it would have been fun assesing their original kit too since this isn't a serious guide for beginners anyways.
In my head i just didn’t consider them as dps same reason why Bennett isn’t here
@@FliponYTcheck out xinyan mono pyro 😢
So, it’s just ranking every pyro character from worst to best
Did you click on the video with you eyes closed?
Plunge vape with Xianyun and c6 benny is Hydro travelers best team. Change my mind
Finally Lyney got what he deserves.
Only thing I can say is that using song of days past with furina in the team is pointless she steals all 6 of the hits almost instantly
I would recommend you try yoimiya overload team with chevy (my Chevy is c1 and she make yoimiya team feel very good and deal good damage with beidou aoe)
I have all these pyro dps accross 2 accounts
Hu tao benched (did not like her nor her gameplay)
Lyne (very hard to play, mostly played him in mono pyro and rarely hav the corage to use him in floor 12m i did this abyss but tbh Xiangling was doing most the damage at that point)
Diluc (benched since early inazuma)
Dehya (convert for a support after I got massive disappointed by her dps)
Yanfie (i did not build)
Ga ming c6 is fun but not my go to for pyro character also i like to play him with yelan xianyun instead of furina
Xiangling (please hoyo give us another Xinagling we need more off field pyro DPS)
Benny (true pyro archon very flexible till hoyo put concentrated beast in abyss)
So ferminet is a better option for pyro dps then half of the cast
With C6 Bennett and Xianyun yeah he can cook
I don't like Lyney but having pyro bow is recommended for exploration. So Amber, Yoimiya or Lyney. 😊
as the only lyney main in the world I STAY WINNING!
YOOOO FLIP FINALLY POSTED A VIDEO AGAIN!!!
Haven’t watched the video but it’s probably Xiangling 0:02
Who’s gonna tell him
This is a tier list that I can fully agree with.
I built 5 of these pyro DPS who do the same thing, and i thought diluc would be as fun to use as gaming, but hell no, damn wrong i was. Maybe i just suck at playing him, his team is clunky to use, slow at clearing mobs, inconsistent vape, and low damage. I can totally see why my C3 diluc is a waste of teyvat's oxygen, top 3% with serpant spine on akasha btw. NGL, although i dont have yoimiya, i think he deserves to be below her (for gameplay experience).
I guess I'm not wrong with investing yanfie as my Main DPS as starter Paired with Kazuha makes her AOE more accurate.
LOL watching this months later with gaming and arle in the same spot is so funny considering post release shes leading in #1 by a good margin
Based for having Lyney no.1
While I am still waiting for the best Pyro DPS character for me, I am quitely building Diluc...
3:01 What are you even yapping about at least when you're trying to be nurd to be good nerd and tell that Lisa have the highest damage in the game even though she is the worst character in that game also I know that kirara and geo Daddy have a lot of damage multiplayer on their burst but I'm not sure how much because I'm not nurd like you 🤥
wdym lyney's first😭
Came for Yanfei
Seeing that you didn't clown and hype arlcheno ,put her in number 1 spot because she is tall gives me faith in humanity