Not banning xiangling is a mistake. She can abuse the giant hit box and hydro aura of the hydro tulpa. The boss was made for xiangling. Picking zhongli for wanderer and triple hydro nilou without Nahida were also bad decisions too.
@@polychromaa for sure. he would've gotten more dmg with thoma over zhongli, as he already had enough RES shred with faruzan and jean. Would've gotten 15% NA dmg, pyro swirl for 30% atk, another random effect from scara c4, as well as been able to trigger freedom sworn in the first 2 chambers. And for second half he def should've went with nahida as first pick. Would've opened up way more options than a nilou team
i think the biggest mistake was likely choosing the main dps's first or key units that allowed the opponent to block them from using needed units. like if you want to do Nilou you don't pick her first so the opponent can take Nahida away from you... same with Wanderer, pick Benny first. that leaves plenty of options even if the opponent happens to take wanderer.
Xiangling deals almost double damage against hydro tulpa cause of the large hitbox shenanigans, already knew that team would be faster. The immediate nahida steal was the nail in the coffin, congrats finally to team aether 😂
Kinda sad that the game ended at 6:10. If the Aether team knew ahead of time that Nilou Bloom was Lumine's only option left, they could just pick either Nilou or Nahida and the other team will be at a massive disatvantage immediately. Although it's an effective tactic, it made the video kinda unpleasant to watch. The teams were not balanced at all.
@@keiryeleison2933 It seems like they either didnt have Collei built or wasnt thinking because Collei is actually one of the best teammates for Nilou bloom and trumps as Nilou bloom’s bis teammate as her frontloaded dmg is actually really good along with her dendro app. At C6, Collei is definitely a better pick than C6 Xingqiu who’s already mediocre with the abundance of hydro app
if they picked nahida first aether team couldnt be sure it was nilou and even if they banned nilou team lumine would still have a lot of team to do, it was an absolute idiotic move
@@keiryeleison2933the biggest throw is when he choose nilou over nahida because u can see he actually get to choose first, the match is over before it's even started 😕
Congrats to Topclass-A on breaking the Aether loss streak, well deserved first W for team Aether! Unfortunate Nahida steal from Haru's Nilou team but still very well played! Also loved the Wanderer first team as I main him myself. Thanks to both players for participating!
Haru shot themselves in the foot with Nilou!!!!pick nahida first wtf?! You are soooooo easy to read by picking Nikou bcz everyone goad Nilou Nahida!!!!
Watching the draft was stressful, locking wanderer out of his A1 and C4 constellation for first two chambers, then picking Nilou before Nahida...well at least Haru had fun :D
It was pretty obvious who was going to be the winner . Choosing Nilou before nahida was a disaster, plus having wonderer R1 and not his set it's a huge dmg lost. Well played to Aether team
@@sy9843 oh ok.. btw do you think i should save for r5 tulaytullah or just stick for r1? I am planning to c5 wanderer and was wondering whether r5-ing his weapon is too much of an overkill..
@ym7402 yes m8 , wonderer relies on atk speed also the more the merrier, 4 set sheminawa grants u 50% atk dmg but only for 10 seconds( kinda like widsith) ,compared to 4 set DP where u gain extra atk speed and increases ur dmg the longer u fight. At c6 he doesn't gain any atk speed so no argument on that , he gains 30% Atk from his set /R1/C1. And on top of that u my not be able to burst every rotation with sheminawa (his c3 gives huge burts dmg increases ) u can do 100k x5 I have done my own tests in my account, c2 R1 and believe for a better total dmg DP it's better then sheminawa. And if u are c6 the faster u atk more often u will activate the passive ( dealing 40% of the attack's original DMG) My experience My opinion so feel free to disagree NOTE: IF U HAVE C6 R5 u should try Echos if u have a good set
Yesterday I randomly stumbled upon this channel, and I like this type of content a lot. Gives a new meaning to abyss. But the content availability is quite low on this subject. Please make this type of videos on every abyss. I believe people will be eager to watch such videos.
Imagine playing 3 hydro without nahida 😭 before i got nahida, i use yaoyao and dmc as dendro appliers and that's still not enough dendro. Idk why they chose xingqui over collei/yaoyao
Lumine’s picks were confusing… there’s an abundance of dps characters, but not of supports. You always want to get the supports chosen before the dps since even if they choose the dps you want, supports are flexible. You can change the dps to fit them easily - you can’t change the supports to match the dps easily if they’re taken.
Since we are having a lot of characters right now I propose you can add one more banned state in the second half and picking Nilou first was crazy instead of Nahida.
7:49 ok, I know this is a for fun thing and we shouldn't be nit picking But who gives a maxed out R5 engulfing xiangling and ER sands in a triple pyro team with the shogun with her refund
@@barbaradesigns1774 "Even though they said all but Zhongli is C6 r5." Meaning in the video, they said everyone besides Zhongli was C6 R5. The commentor is saying that this was false; Wanderer wasn't R5.
(Just after draft) I don't wanna be that guy, but this feels like "lost at draft" situation for Haru. I mean just look at the two teams next to each other. Edit: Yeah, that Overload team was cracked and the Nahida snipe absolutely mattered.
Why not making pvp competition video everyday,i actually enjoying the idea of characters picking and banning and the speed run of the chosen teams, waiting for the next video
I use the same exact team in the first half and i tell you, xiangling carries 😂 I don't have good build but i can 2 full rotations that tulpa My xiangling deals 50k+ vape and my raiden burst highest dmg was 199k 😂
these guys are making good tournament meanwhile. hoyo be like look we make card game also we spend million of money making tournament for mode that nothing to do with main game mechanic. good work guys let hoyo embarrassed them self.
I always want to get in on this but my account is to streamlined. Don't build the characters that I don't really care about so the banning part would probably screw me over.
Love the format, the commentary, the matchups and the way everything is organized so well that it makes it very easy to tell what is going on at all times. You guys are so underrated, please keep it up!
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Thank you Xin and HGC for invitation to this tournament. It was a nice experience with you all. 😊
Lord not banning a pyro units against tulpa and then not taking a pyro yourself when you opponent did is just pure suicide.
Not banning xiangling is a mistake. She can abuse the giant hit box and hydro aura of the hydro tulpa. The boss was made for xiangling. Picking zhongli for wanderer and triple hydro nilou without Nahida were also bad decisions too.
@@polychromaa for sure. he would've gotten more dmg with thoma over zhongli, as he already had enough RES shred with faruzan and jean. Would've gotten 15% NA dmg, pyro swirl for 30% atk, another random effect from scara c4, as well as been able to trigger freedom sworn in the first 2 chambers. And for second half he def should've went with nahida as first pick. Would've opened up way more options than a nilou team
he was cooking with anemo lol
Yeah, but I think team Lumine was just having a good time showing off their characters instead of trying to win badly lol
i think the biggest mistake was likely choosing the main dps's first or key units that allowed the opponent to block them from using needed units. like if you want to do Nilou you don't pick her first so the opponent can take Nahida away from you... same with Wanderer, pick Benny first. that leaves plenty of options even if the opponent happens to take wanderer.
Xiangling deals almost double damage against hydro tulpa cause of the large hitbox shenanigans, already knew that team would be faster. The immediate nahida steal was the nail in the coffin, congrats finally to team aether 😂
3 upload in one week? This is fire, maybe 2024 will be not so bad
nice video keep up the good work. Amazing to see Top Class A destroy that abyss!
Yeah... this is why Chevreuse should be a ban on sight against tulpa
The biggest draft gap
This is more about mistake on drafting rather than DPS fighting.
me sees the nilou pick: " OH they are going for bloom!"
toop class picks nahida
me: "what an *ss"
XDXDXD
Let's goooooo
No way this is the first Team Aether win LOOOOOL
15:28 😂😂😂😂
You let Aether have Xiangling/Bennett first half and also allowed for Nahida second half.
That's a loss straight from Draft.
If you want a real competitive tournament, watch the chinese one
These guys are just whales
whats the name
@@Lilia·Liuu
and nilou first pick
Kinda sad that the game ended at 6:10. If the Aether team knew ahead of time that Nilou Bloom was Lumine's only option left, they could just pick either Nilou or Nahida and the other team will be at a massive disatvantage immediately. Although it's an effective tactic, it made the video kinda unpleasant to watch. The teams were not balanced at all.
he should have picked collei instead of xingqiu.
@@keiryeleison2933yeah that would have made it at least decent
@@keiryeleison2933
It seems like they either didnt have Collei built or wasnt thinking because Collei is actually one of the best teammates for Nilou bloom and trumps as Nilou bloom’s bis teammate as her frontloaded dmg is actually really good along with her dendro app. At C6, Collei is definitely a better pick than C6 Xingqiu who’s already mediocre with the abundance of hydro app
if they picked nahida first aether team couldnt be sure it was nilou and even if they banned nilou team lumine would still have a lot of team to do, it was an absolute idiotic move
@@keiryeleison2933the biggest throw is when he choose nilou over nahida because u can see he actually get to choose first, the match is over before it's even started 😕
if lumine got nahida first instead of nilou this could be really different!! c6 nahida changes a lot for both teams
Always sad to see someone lose the match before the draft has ended. 😭
Congrats to Topclass-A on breaking the Aether loss streak, well deserved first W for team Aether!
Unfortunate Nahida steal from Haru's Nilou team but still very well played! Also loved the Wanderer first team as I main him myself.
Thanks to both players for participating!
Many thanks to HGC for hosting this, it was a great experience with you all. And congrats to Topclass, gg guys!
you were gret
Thank you!!
Pick collei next time with Nilou bloom
Haru shot themselves in the foot with Nilou!!!!pick nahida first wtf?! You are soooooo easy to read by picking Nikou bcz everyone goad Nilou Nahida!!!!
Team Lumine threw so hard by locking in Nilou before Nahida, and even then picking YaoYao or Baizhu would have been way better that DMC
Or at least Collei
Watching the draft was stressful, locking wanderer out of his A1 and C4 constellation for first two chambers, then picking Nilou before Nahida...well at least Haru had fun :D
It was pretty obvious who was going to be the winner . Choosing Nilou before nahida was a disaster, plus having wonderer R1 and not his set it's a huge dmg lost.
Well played to Aether team
You mean wanderer with tulaytullah that is not on the desert pavilion set is not good?
@@ym7402 It's good but DPS isn't just as good
@@sy9843 oh ok.. btw do you think i should save for r5 tulaytullah or just stick for r1? I am planning to c5 wanderer and was wondering whether r5-ing his weapon is too much of an overkill..
@@ym7402 I recommend you C6 him first before thinking of getting his weapon above R1
@ym7402 yes m8 , wonderer relies on atk speed also the more the merrier, 4 set sheminawa grants u 50% atk dmg but only for 10 seconds( kinda like widsith) ,compared to 4 set DP where u gain extra atk speed and increases ur dmg the longer u fight. At c6 he doesn't gain any atk speed so no argument on that , he gains 30% Atk from his set /R1/C1. And on top of that u my not be able to burst every rotation with sheminawa (his c3 gives huge burts dmg increases ) u can do 100k x5
I have done my own tests in my account, c2 R1 and believe for a better total dmg DP it's better then sheminawa.
And if u are c6 the faster u atk more often u will activate the passive ( dealing 40% of the attack's original DMG)
My experience My opinion so feel free to disagree
NOTE: IF U HAVE C6 R5 u should try Echos if u have a good set
I did not expect myself watching this kind of “end game content “😂
Much more interesting than the drama stuff
@@caioreis350 true
yao yao or baizhu instead of XQ mightve changed the whole game...
yeaaah not picking Nahida before Nilou was the end for haru
Seeing a pyro units in team 1 already decided the winner. Period
I’m really happy these are being uploaded again. These are incredibly high quality videos.
Yesterday I randomly stumbled upon this channel, and I like this type of content a lot. Gives a new meaning to abyss. But the content availability is quite low on this subject. Please make this type of videos on every abyss. I believe people will be eager to watch such videos.
Yikes , Imagine playing nilou WITHOUT NAHIDA
Imagine playing 3 hydro without nahida 😭 before i got nahida, i use yaoyao and dmc as dendro appliers and that's still not enough dendro. Idk why they chose xingqui over collei/yaoyao
Lumine’s picks were confusing… there’s an abundance of dps characters, but not of supports. You always want to get the supports chosen before the dps since even if they choose the dps you want, supports are flexible. You can change the dps to fit them easily - you can’t change the supports to match the dps easily if they’re taken.
Why did team lumine picked Nilou first?
Definitely a tactical error. Should have locked in Nahida. Nobody would have locked in Nilou as a counterpick.. Nilou basically requires Nahida.
If the team lumine took nahida first before nilou then maybe the results would have been a bit different
Am I the only one that knew Haru would lose after the character selection?
Since we are having a lot of characters right now I propose you can add one more banned state in the second half and picking Nilou first was crazy instead of Nahida.
Skill issue smh
Let’s go haru and top 🎉
I respect both players but that video shows you that money maybe can give you cons but not skill tho
They should have choose collei instead of Xingqiu
With that dps kokomi lol with crit stats
Hello! I want a new video like this soon please!!! I love them
Not even a competition
Finally the aether curse is broken! This was disgustingly entertaining to watch xD very good job!
8:46 is that zhongli with an anemo goblet and jean with a cryo one? Lol I'm stunned they still did amazing
I need 2 mins to finish floor 11 💔
YEAHHHHH I LOVE THESE PLUS YALL VOICES SOUND NICE NO WEIRDNESS INVOLVED
7:49 ok, I know this is a for fun thing and we shouldn't be nit picking
But who gives a maxed out R5 engulfing xiangling and ER sands in a triple pyro team with the shogun with her refund
What even is this ? Whoever picks the best characters first wins challenge? Do you get a prize at least if you "win"?
Emmm c6r5 raiden is that legal? Its kinda too op to give opportunity to pick such characters
bro whats the point of doing a competition in genshin😂 everyone can have strong characters It doesnt make sense
or lumine team could picked baizu for the applicator beside xingqiu
never facepalm so hard after seeing the nilou pick without nahida
17sec on Tulpa is insane...🤯🤯
Team aether with the fccing 2 R5 Engulfing lightning on Raiden and XL
imagine banning yelonte instead of nahida, u already know the answer lol
Finally he won
Me encantan estos vídeos, siempre los miro a la hora de la cena
8:40 Wanderer is R1 even though they said all but Zhongli is C6 r5.
Zhongli is C0
@@barbaradesigns1774 "Even though they said all but Zhongli is C6 r5." Meaning in the video, they said everyone besides Zhongli was C6 R5. The commentor is saying that this was false; Wanderer wasn't R5.
@@Glast04 thanks for explaining, english is my second language and I got confused with the wording.
@@barbaradesigns1774 Np 😅
I would love to compete, but I can barely 9 star floor 12 with my main team 😢
When will the next tournament be? And where can I watch it?
Finally team Aether win something jajajajaja leeeeeeesgoooooo
Triple hydro nilou team is stupid move😂
this should have it's esports
One dendro character with nilou is a bad decision
where can i find a pvp community'
finally a human playing on aether side
17:53 SONG MATCHES NILOU BURST
this is so beuty draft how u do this
Good content ill sub
nahida could game changes lumine's team
Always love to see this series and new uploads, quality is always great. Thanks guys 😁
Love these championships
Wanderer could do 7-10 sec early
I am sad that these c6 nahida players don't use the ICD optimal combos =(
the CA jump cancel has a huge frame advantage people!!!
(Just after draft)
I don't wanna be that guy, but this feels like "lost at draft" situation for Haru. I mean just look at the two teams next to each other.
Edit: Yeah, that Overload team was cracked and the Nahida snipe absolutely mattered.
18:54
7x lost streak so sad aether team
You guys are the best! I love your work and voices
Why not making pvp competition video everyday,i actually enjoying the idea of characters picking and banning and the speed run of the chosen teams, waiting for the next video
Where do this stream happens?
And that's why "Genshin pvp" can never work in a fair manner even with full whale accounts. This video shows why.
I just saw 2 R5 engulfings.. I can only imagine how many R5 standard banner weapons of each kind this whale would have
I use the same exact team in the first half and i tell you, xiangling carries 😂
I don't have good build but i can 2 full rotations that tulpa
My xiangling deals 50k+ vape and my raiden burst highest dmg was 199k 😂
these guys are making good tournament meanwhile. hoyo be like look we make card game also we spend million of money making tournament for mode that nothing to do with main game mechanic.
good work guys let hoyo embarrassed them self.
I knew Team Aether lost before it even began just from the pick and ban phase. No surprises
Limit 4star weapon and c0 caracter for better fight
I always want to get in on this but my account is to streamlined. Don't build the characters that I don't really care about so the banning part would probably screw me over.
I hadn't thought about what super whales would be called, but Leviathan's sounds so sick!
CAN YOU DO A STAR RAIL ONE
Kokomi on Widsith 10:22
It's not balance 😢
The draft picks is just like playing TCG lmao
first to pick the best card
Lmao why didn’t haru pick nahida first
It would’ve changed a lot
Love the format, the commentary, the matchups and the way everything is organized so well that it makes it very easy to tell what is going on at all times. You guys are so underrated, please keep it up!
Much much love from Germany, I'm very enjoying this content of competition of my favorite casual game. It gives many ideas for team building.
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
That tygnari…..
If u guys want to see way more professional abyss tournaments -> "Ken Ruroni" has streamed some of them
Just outdrafted
Why was Haru using widsith on Kokomi instead of EM weapon...
10:50 this was bad luck.. the mc skill didn't hit so she couldn't create any particles so the ult didn't come back, this was the moment they lost.
I would love to participate as a representer of the f2p community