Renee's father was also a police officer, that makes it so much more difficult to leave. No police will believe you, it's easy for him to have hurt them after they left.
sometimes families need to be separted no matter how hard it is, if you care about your kids and they are your life, if its for the better, if its for the better for their future, you have to do whatever it takes, I wish my mom knew that.
I'm actually with Bianca on this. She sounded genuine, and I understand how it might be taken the wrong way. She was just thinking aloud, and wondering about Renee, she certainly wasn't acting like she was way better. It's just confusing and tough for someone to understand who didn't go through it. Also it's a sensitive subject for Renee so even if it's not meant in a certain way I think she overreacted.
I remember watching this and I kinda got where Bianca was coming from. And I appreciate Renee defending Bianca. Reading more about Bianca's background I kinda knew where she is coming from with this. Tyra as usual playing psychologist without a degree. Damn if there were no cameras Bianca would have gone hardcore NY on her
Bianca is just pretty lucky that she didnt undergo any abusive issues. Think of it, Lauren, Renee, Dom and Fatima did. Each have a different issues of abuse. I feel that she got to understand about the real issues and also maybe just to keep her opinion by herself. If she wanna said out loud, at least warn the girls if it may came out wrong or it may sound like an insult. Well, what i am trying to say is that always put others feeling before yours. Respect them the way you wanna be respected.
Bianca was just trying to understand. And Renee had just finished explaining why she lashes out at people, I think Renee is the one who needs to think about what she did.
I liked the manner in which Tyra explained to Bianca about her behavior or lack of understanding with Renee's situation. I know Bianca's intention was not to be insensitive to Renee's backstory, but she came off as judgemental. I come from an abusive background and I have friends like Bianca who are baffle by my past experiences with family members. Like Tyra said, Bianca was ignorant of Renee's story and therefore tend to come off a little cruel or slightly bitchy when asking questions.
i understand why bianca asked that question because i would have done the same ... and they're being flipping hiporcritical in saying bianca judges when they judge her
1:29 I have always been a huge fan of Lauren and now knowing I feel extremely sorry for her and I feel the same way she feels not being able to trust someone especially men because I myself have been molested by a male school teacher when I was 8 through 12 so I know just how she feels.
On another note, no wonder Renee got booted for 'photographing old' after they gave her a Karen hair cut. She does look a lot younger with long hair and a bang.
Man This Is Hard To Watch It Was Hard To Watch Then And Extremely Hard to watch now especially knowing how bad things got for Renee I always had a soft spot in my heart for her even though I didn't like some of her ways on cycle 8 I know she was trying to better her life for her son. And you can clearly see that she is hurting AT ALL TIMES it's like a grey energy that follows her that you even see and feel through the television I PRAY THAT ALL IS WELL FOR HER AND HER SON IN 2020 I'm afraid to google because I don't want to feel sadder than I already am right now. I just hope things are much better for her. And I do understand what Bianca means because my mother has said the same thing to me and my siblings and would die for us as well but in a moment like that if it something you don't understand just try to be a listening ear sometimes thats all that is needed And Also BTW Rest Well Jael 😢
I doubt any of the people who have never been in emotionally abusive and physically abuse relationships know what they're talking about. Leaving an abusive relationship isn't like moving house or whatever. This woman had CHILDREN for crying out loud.
I think Tyra was being a BIT TOO biased towards Bianca in this case. Problem was Bianca also had difficulty trying to explain herself and how she didn't mean for things to come out the way they did since having Renee's mum = more pressure. She should have I think toned what she said down a notch though since - they WERE dealing with a VERY sensitive topic.
Tyra was saying 'ignorant' and saying that she 'judges things too quickly.'. Yet she is such a hypocrite, because she is not trying to see Bianca's point of view and is already judging her by it.
Honestly, I just think Bianca lacks a filter. I mean, we all kind of think that - why can't an abuse woman leave? If you haven't gone through it, you DON'T understand, and it's not Bianca's fault for not understanding. And news flash: Tyra understands just as much as Bianca does, she is just interested in making fights seem bigger than they are.
Bianca looks like Naomi on the cover of the All Black Vogue issue... hopefully through Modellville we'll learn why Bianca is the way she is, it seems like Tyra gathered all the mean girls of the recent seasons to show that they're the way they are because of their past issues, and to inspire people to be more conscious of why they act the way they act... to show them as humans, and not just model divas
THIS IS SOO UNFAIR! bianca is getting a THIRD chance!!!!! She's on the NEXT cycle!!!! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE! i swear they just want her their to piss people off
Same here. I've grew up in an abusive household. Once I notice a pattern of abuse began to repeat itself after leaving home, I immediately left the relationship. No ifs, ands, or buts.
Bianca wasn't considering ,BUT she was right a MOM has to protect their children She has to choose her children OVER an ABUSING MAN period !!! If Renee's mom left right away with Renee wen the abuse started she maybe didn't had to go true this.
She is juss sum1 who has a lot to learn. Hopefully she will not learn these things the hard way...She should not b judgin any1 in that situation and we should not judge her back either. It really is sad when a person is so set in their own ways. Tyra handled that so well :)
Renee is so annoying...I think she's bipolar. One minute she's sobbing, and the next she's spazzing out. Even she herself admitted that she gets angry for no reason
I agree! I think it's wrong to blame but you have to think, your parents are there to support you and if they can't support you through a disgusting thing like rape or physical abuse then they're not fully supporting you as they should do if they're your parents. It's sad that they don't think like that... :(
Bianca needs to calm down. She was blatantly dissing both of their parents. Bianca had a good life and can't even comprehend what a hard life feels like. When someone is giving you that kind of info, you don't trash the people involved as if they purposely put themselves in that situation. You shut your trap and the only time you open it is when you are giving understanding, non threatening feedback. Wow Bianca, for a girl that's pushing 30 years old. You have the tact of someone in grade school
Well, it is about your state of mind. In my situation and looking back. I was a weak minded individual to stay in a relationship where I was being abused mentally and physically. I did not love myself or my kid. Bianca is not to blame. One of my friends told me, while I was going through the situation, and it was true, I needed to love myself and value myself more than that man. She did not understand either. Her reaction was like Bianca's because her man treated her right. She did chose to put
LOOK PEOPLE THIS ANNOYS ME THAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING BIANCA IGNORANT! I HAVE BEEN THROUGH WHAT BOTH LAUREN AND RENEE WENT THROUGH AND I HAD A MOTHER THAT DID NOT CARE AND WAS NOT IN MY LIFE MUCH LESS CARING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT I SUFFERED THROUGH!I HAD NOONE TO PROTECT ME! I UNDERSTAND WHAT BIANCA IS SAYING!! SHE IS BAFFLED BY HOW THEIR MOTHERS COULD ALLOW THESE THINGS TO CONTINUE HAPPENING WITHOUT DOING SOMETHING! I HAVE A DAUGHTER AND I WILL BE DAMNED IF ANYONE EVER EVEN DREAMT OF ANYTHING
I have to say that Renee is a very emotional person and she has been through a lot so I guess she is hurt by a lot of things that some people said cuz they never lived like she did. I think that Renee is a good model and she is a good person too.
you dont have to be insane or troubled to see a therapist u could be have relationship problems or issues with and might just go and see a therapist just to sort things that type of thinking that only insane and troubled people go see therapist is untrue
youre so right, people have a right to add an opinion, and I didnt think she was attacking, the only reason shes backing up renee is because shes the "victim" int his whole thing. lol if you dont want to explain the whole situation and talk about it when people ask questions then you shouldnt have brought it up renee. lol a month later and it still baffles me how psychologist tyra thinks she always right. but Im addicted to her shows
I really see nothing wrong with what Bianca said to Renee, most of us would wonder the same thing. How could you let your child be hurt and for so long. And I also, understand Renee and her mom, it can be hard leaving someone, especially if you have nothing to fall back on.
Why are they attacking Biana.. She was clearly just trying to understand and didn't mean to offend anyone. Why attack the wrong person?! They should have asked the mother what truly kept her there because i would do anything to protect my children and their childhood.. You are telling me noone is going to help you if you say you and your children are being abused?! Get intouch with the police..anything! she said it was happening from the time she was young so yes her mother could have been smar
these women need to stop blaming Bianca for the way This woman chose to live. She chose to put herself and her children through this because of her low self esteem. Bianca was not judging. I was going through a similar situation and I had to come to terms with If I loved my children and myself more than and man. You can get out of situations. You just have to love yourself enough to do it. So stop hating on Bianca. If you are going through this or have then you can say somehting
Heather was annoying. She had a mild form of autism, she acted normally, so why should she deserve to be babied? She doesnt. Bianca acted the same way she would to anyone with that type of personality.
I don't think Bianca did anything bad. She asked a question and stated about her home life and Renee decided to yell and scream instead of talking about how her father also abused the mother. Tyra should not have talked down to Bianca but should have counselled her about family abust and how everyone is affected.
What I love about the Tyra show is that she humanized both sides of this conversation. Renee explained why she and her mother could not get out and Tyra and Bianca explained how she was not aware of this dynamic. They also clarified that they got heated in the conversation, but do not take it personally. T
@abcumm23 yeah....specielly on top model....i love tyra banks but sometimes i think that she doesnt think clear either because most girl in fashion is like Bianca,
but i can tell you that lauren is veryyyyyyyy wounded inside.. neither lauren or renee is taken care of the situation the right way.. plus u can beat renee down because she cries about it some people just cant hide their emotions
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Couldnt agree more
Renee's father was also a police officer, that makes it so much more difficult to leave. No police will believe you, it's easy for him to have hurt them after they left.
And now look at world we live in today.......WOW AND THIS COMMENT WAS 8YRS AGO and Still hold so much weight in the year 2020 WOW
sometimes families need to be separted no matter how hard it is, if you care about your kids and they are your life, if its for the better, if its for the better for their future, you have to do whatever it takes, I wish my mom knew that.
I think the hardest part is money
I feel bad for Lauren she is so down to earth and getting on with her life though! GO LAUREN!
I'm actually with Bianca on this. She sounded genuine, and I understand how it might be taken the wrong way. She was just thinking aloud, and wondering about Renee, she certainly wasn't acting like she was way better. It's just confusing and tough for someone to understand who didn't go through it. Also it's a sensitive subject for Renee so even if it's not meant in a certain way I think she overreacted.
Bianca is GORGEOUS!
I remember watching this and I kinda got where Bianca was coming from. And I appreciate Renee defending Bianca. Reading more about Bianca's background I kinda knew where she is coming from with this.
Tyra as usual playing psychologist without a degree. Damn if there were no cameras Bianca would have gone hardcore NY on her
I totally agree but every situation is different
Bianca wasn't even judging Renee she was just giving her own opinion Renee is so crazy and historical.
Lauren’s story 😢
i totally agree...%100 Bianca isnt the easiest to like but she was right on this one.
The tyra show should have done a public vote for the casting of modelville
this was worded beautifully, much better than what i wrote.
Bianca is just pretty lucky that she didnt undergo any abusive issues. Think of it, Lauren, Renee, Dom and Fatima did. Each have a different issues of abuse. I feel that she got to understand about the real issues and also maybe just to keep her opinion by herself. If she wanna said out loud, at least warn the girls if it may came out wrong or it may sound like an insult. Well, what i am trying to say is that always put others feeling before yours. Respect them the way you wanna be respected.
Bianca was just trying to understand. And Renee had just finished explaining why she lashes out at people, I think Renee is the one who needs to think about what she did.
I didn't feel like Bianca was attacking Renee at all! I thought that she was genuinely curious about Renee's situation.
I liked the manner in which Tyra explained to Bianca about her behavior or lack of understanding with Renee's situation. I know Bianca's intention was not to be insensitive to Renee's backstory, but she came off as judgemental. I come from an abusive background and I have friends like Bianca who are baffle by my past experiences with family members. Like Tyra said, Bianca was ignorant of Renee's story and therefore tend to come off a little cruel or slightly bitchy when asking questions.
Renee literally look like her Mother her Mother is so gorgeous.
I like that Renee's mom is there with her now. I wish someone would have gotten through to Renee before she went to prison.
Me too
Which time
Bianca: your so lucky your mom did everything for you. But many mom's don't give a dam about there children.
dominique
tyra just cuts people off mid sentence wow
Lol right its rude
OMG I thought I was the ONLY one who thought that. She does.
Bianca looks gorgeous.
And Renee's mom is awesome.
Me either. Something about her grandfather...
i understand why bianca asked that question because i would have done the same ... and they're being flipping hiporcritical in saying bianca judges when they judge her
1:29 I have always been a huge fan of Lauren and now knowing I feel extremely sorry for her and I feel the same way she feels not being able to trust someone especially men because I myself have been molested by a male school teacher when I was 8 through 12 so I know just how she feels.
I feel like Bianca shouldn't have approached the question like that. She was being insentitive.
What she was not coming off like that
On another note, no wonder Renee got booted for 'photographing old' after they gave her a Karen hair cut.
She does look a lot younger with long hair and a bang.
Bianca is so fake😂
Man This Is Hard To Watch It Was Hard To Watch Then And Extremely Hard to watch now especially knowing how bad things got for Renee I always had a soft spot in my heart for her even though I didn't like some of her ways on cycle 8 I know she was trying to better her life for her son. And you can clearly see that she is hurting AT ALL TIMES it's like a grey energy that follows her that you even see and feel through the television I PRAY THAT ALL IS WELL FOR HER AND HER SON IN 2020 I'm afraid to google because I don't want to feel sadder than I already am right now. I just hope things are much better for her.
And I do understand what Bianca means because my mother has said the same thing to me and my siblings and would die for us as well but in a moment like that if it something you don't understand just try to be a listening ear sometimes thats all that is needed
And Also BTW
Rest Well Jael 😢
I doubt any of the people who have never been in emotionally abusive and physically abuse relationships know what they're talking about.
Leaving an abusive relationship isn't like moving house or whatever.
This woman had CHILDREN for crying out loud.
I think Tyra was being a BIT TOO biased towards Bianca in this case. Problem was Bianca also had difficulty trying to explain herself and how she didn't mean for things to come out the way they did since having Renee's mum = more pressure. She should have I think toned what she said down a notch though since - they WERE dealing with a VERY sensitive topic.
Laaaaaauren!!!
I love renne so much! I really wanted her to win cycle 8, hope she wins something. I really look up to her! She's beautiful
People on here need to look up the word 'ignorant' in the dictionary coz Tyra's got it right.
who won?
message from the future - dominique won.
Yes, Bianca attacked Heather, but she really wasn't attacking Renee, just trying to understand her situation
Tyra was saying 'ignorant' and saying that she 'judges things too quickly.'.
Yet she is such a hypocrite, because she is not trying to see Bianca's point of view and is already judging her by it.
Renee has been through a lot. Like a lot. I feel bad for her. And for bianca say that is really lack of sensitivity
Bianca was simply trying to understand the situation
Ugh Bianca. I never, ever liked her. She was just a mean person. I hope she's changed.
Stfu
Honestly, I just think Bianca lacks a filter. I mean, we all kind of think that - why can't an abuse woman leave? If you haven't gone through it, you DON'T understand, and it's not Bianca's fault for not understanding. And news flash: Tyra understands just as much as Bianca does, she is just interested in making fights seem bigger than they are.
Poor Renee.
I meant renee* not lauren
Bianca looks like Naomi on the cover of the All Black Vogue issue... hopefully through Modellville we'll learn why Bianca is the way she is, it seems like Tyra gathered all the mean girls of the recent seasons to show that they're the way they are because of their past issues, and to inspire people to be more conscious of why they act the way they act... to show them as humans, and not just model divas
Omg tyra is so dismissive of everybody lol
THIS IS SOO UNFAIR! bianca is getting a THIRD chance!!!!! She's on the NEXT cycle!!!! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE! i swear they just want her their to piss people off
bianca was right on that.
hell yeah!
because some people like to play the " victim " card!!
Same here. I've grew up in an abusive household. Once I notice a pattern of abuse began to repeat itself after leaving home, I immediately left the relationship. No ifs, ands, or buts.
I'm beginning to think the Top Model only cast girls that are not completely stable. This is very very sad!
Thank you for uploading these.
wow Renee looks beautiful
Bianca is really a bigmouth.
Bianca wasn't considering ,BUT she was right a MOM has to protect their children
She has to choose her children OVER an ABUSING MAN period !!!
If Renee's mom left right away with Renee wen the abuse started she maybe didn't had to go true this.
That's what I thought. Ick...
oh my god. lauren. take care! win that contract and lead a good life!
She is juss sum1 who has a lot to learn. Hopefully she will not learn these things the hard way...She should not b judgin any1 in that situation and we should not judge her back either. It really is sad when a person is so set in their own ways. Tyra handled that so well :)
Bianca & Renee both held good points from their points of view but it got out of hand.
Renee is so annoying...I think she's bipolar. One minute she's sobbing, and the next she's spazzing out. Even she herself admitted that she gets angry for no reason
Who only wanted to make her feel worthless.
i love dominique for listenling to them
@LouBeBostock it's not that easy!
Lisa D'amato and Renee Alway actually have a lot in common as far as experiences.
Heather wasn't Autistic Tyra. She had Asperger's sweetie!
Bianca seriously needs education.
i sorta get were bianca was coming from
Wow Renee looks INCREDIBLE
what happened to Lauren ??
Dominique looks just like a man on the sofa.
@peanutmmss they said because all stars is all about fans fav. voila your question is answered. NEXT
I agree! I think it's wrong to blame but you have to think, your parents are there to support you and if they can't support you through a disgusting thing like rape or physical abuse then they're not fully supporting you as they should do if they're your parents. It's sad that they don't think like that... :(
Well what would you do if your father ever abused you before during your childhood?
Bianca needs to calm down. She was blatantly dissing both of their parents. Bianca had a good life and can't even comprehend what a hard life feels like. When someone is giving you that kind of info, you don't trash the people involved as if they purposely put themselves in that situation. You shut your trap and the only time you open it is when you are giving understanding, non threatening feedback. Wow Bianca, for a girl that's pushing 30 years old. You have the tact of someone in grade school
Well, it is about your state of mind. In my situation and looking back. I was a weak minded individual to stay in a relationship where I was being abused mentally and physically. I did not love myself or my kid. Bianca is not to blame. One of my friends told me, while I was going through the situation, and it was true, I needed to love myself and value myself more than that man. She did not understand either. Her reaction was like Bianca's because her man treated her right. She did chose to put
LOOK PEOPLE THIS ANNOYS ME THAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING BIANCA IGNORANT! I HAVE BEEN THROUGH WHAT BOTH LAUREN AND RENEE WENT THROUGH AND I HAD A MOTHER THAT DID NOT CARE AND WAS NOT IN MY LIFE MUCH LESS CARING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT I SUFFERED THROUGH!I HAD NOONE TO PROTECT ME! I UNDERSTAND WHAT BIANCA IS SAYING!! SHE IS BAFFLED BY HOW THEIR MOTHERS COULD ALLOW THESE THINGS TO CONTINUE HAPPENING WITHOUT DOING SOMETHING! I HAVE A DAUGHTER AND I WILL BE DAMNED IF ANYONE EVER EVEN DREAMT OF ANYTHING
I have to say that Renee is a very emotional person and she has been through a lot so I guess she is hurt by a lot of things that some people said cuz they never lived like she did. I think that Renee is a good model and she is a good person too.
you dont have to be insane or troubled to see a therapist u could be have relationship problems or issues with and might just go and see a therapist just to sort things that type of thinking that only insane and troubled people go see therapist is untrue
what happened to lauren i didn't hear it clearly.
youre so right, people have a right to add an opinion, and I didnt think she was attacking, the only reason shes backing up renee is because shes the "victim" int his whole thing. lol if you dont want to explain the whole situation and talk about it when people ask questions then you shouldnt have brought it up renee. lol a month later and it still baffles me how psychologist tyra thinks she always right. but Im addicted to her shows
I really see nothing wrong with what Bianca said to Renee, most of us would wonder the same thing. How could you let your child be hurt and for so long. And I also, understand Renee and her mom, it can be hard leaving someone, especially if you have nothing to fall back on.
I love Lauren...she is so real, no crap and nice.
Why are they attacking Biana.. She was clearly just trying to understand and didn't mean to offend anyone. Why attack the wrong person?! They should have asked the mother what truly kept her there because i would do anything to protect my children and their childhood.. You are telling me noone is going to help you if you say you and your children are being abused?! Get intouch with the police..anything! she said it was happening from the time she was young so yes her mother could have been smar
Renee looks so different from when i saw her on Americas next top model .
yeah i replayed it over and over again i just didnt wanna beleive it
these women need to stop blaming Bianca for the way This woman chose to live. She chose to put herself and her children through this because of her low self esteem. Bianca was not judging. I was going through a similar situation and I had to come to terms with If I loved my children and myself more than and man. You can get out of situations. You just have to love yourself enough to do it. So stop hating on Bianca. If you are going through this or have then you can say somehting
Heather was annoying. She had a mild form of autism, she acted normally, so why should she deserve to be babied? She doesnt. Bianca acted the same way she would to anyone with that type of personality.
I don't think Bianca did anything bad. She asked a question and stated about her home life and Renee decided to yell and scream instead of talking about how her father also abused the mother. Tyra should not have talked down to Bianca but should have counselled her about family abust and how everyone is affected.
Geez it was not that serious to bring Renee's mom up there.
Lauren really resembles Jaime from Pussycat Dolls Presents: Girlicious... at least with this blonde haircut.
What I love about the Tyra show is that she humanized both sides of this conversation. Renee explained why she and her mother could not get out and Tyra and Bianca explained how she was not aware of this dynamic. They also clarified that they got heated in the conversation, but do not take it personally. T
@abcumm23 yeah....specielly on top model....i love tyra banks but sometimes i think that she doesnt think clear either because most girl in fashion is like Bianca,
Renee looks beautiful. So much younger with the long hair. She sounds just like her mom.
OMG I MISS HEATHER!!
I wished Heather would compete with Lauren. They were my idols!!
but i can tell you that lauren is veryyyyyyyy wounded inside..
neither lauren or renee is taken care of the situation the right way..
plus u can beat renee down because she cries about it some people just cant hide their emotions
I am on Renee's side for this, Bianca is not compassionate at all
wha did she say?? i didn't understand her, what she was saying...
LMFAO TYRA CALLED BIANCA IGNORANT To Her Face & Kept Talking Like She Wasn't Even There #Dead.....
Lol xD
Obviously is evident Bianca is both ignorant with no knowledge but also very stupid, an idiot.