An interesting aspect of that is, our families always tell us to be ourselves and not let anybody stand in the way. Isis is the only person I've ever heard of that really takes that saying to heart and honors herself- in more ways than one. And that makes her the most beautiful person on this planet; inside and out.
This is awesome, I started crying afther the guy stood up and gave her the ring. My girlfriend is going trough something similar like this and I swear to God ill make everithing within my power to help her out in her journey.
Isis is so beautiful, it's amazing. She's even prettier than Tyra who was born a woman. There is absolutely nothing masculine looking about Isis. Incredible!
@amandadee03 but he clearly said they've known each other and been friends for 3,5 years if i recall correctly. they've only been a couple for a month. so that's a different situation to if they just met each other a month ago
@tissetatten There wasa model who died I think it was around 2005, more or less, and after that "skinny" models cannot be under a certain weight or naturally skinny. So, yes, there is such thing as too skinny to model. The article I read this from, I think it was titled "Size 0" Interesting read.
What a lucky girl Isis is. That man stuck with her throughout her change from man to the beautiful woman she is; a man that dedicated is hard to find these days. I cried when he proposed.
@271207 as far as i know it depends on the laws of the actual state. while in some states sex reassignment is recognized for the purpose of marriage (e.g. Kansas, New Jersey), in others it isn't. however most of the states permit name and sex to be changed on birth certificate. i'm not 100% sure how it actually works though, it is only what i've read on the internet
omg i cant b-lieve he proposed now I am in love with Desmond for being a real man for this and a real human to continue to love someone like this...Love is real ppl i am so happy for them
@GenerationalSavant I didn't type that to cause a discussion. The fact that they broke up not long after that only adds a bit to my point. I'm just saying, people can discuss marriage all they want, as in "I want to marry you one day." but it doesn't mean they were ready that day, week, or even year. I can talk about REALLY wanting a puppy, but if someone brought me one today, I wouldn't be able to care for it and it wouldn't be a comfortable and enjoyable experience for me.
@xTheFame The breakup? She said that herself on her website, weeks ago. She had just launched a blog or something where you could write to her, and I read through some of the questions. One person asked if she was still with the guy that proposed to her on the Tyra show, and she said NO, and that it ended shortly after the Tyra Show... Too bad. :(
This is just one example of all the poor people that have to go through this just because of the problem that occures in the mothers womb. So sad..brave people. It may sound icky but they do what they gotta do.
@amandadee03 But they have known each other for three years. So even though they've only been dating for 1 month, they have known each other for long enough.
In Isis's old photos, she looks like a female. She looks like she's supposed to be a female. And for the doctor, I would never have guessed she was transgender herself.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Nobody is saying that Tyra is not beautiful, but Isis, also, has an undeniable beauty that is more classic than Tyra's. For instance, she has those hugh eyes and those delicate features. Some men like large women and others like small women. Isis is fine boned and more delicate looking.
He said they knew each other for 3 yrs & he was suppressing his feelings for her. So he ACTUALLY proposed after 3 yrs of KNOWING Isis, 1 month of being in a relationship.
@webkinzfan432 Exactly. And I dunno. Obviously I could be wrong, but her expression didn't seem overjoyed and surprised so much as, caught off guard and a bit.. worried, or uneasy.
I love Tyra, she is a role model and she has a good sense of humour too. And she IS intellegent look at everything she's achieved. I know her looks and modelling career where a stepping stone but she could have not have achieved all she has if she didn't have the package.
I'm glad most people in the comments are so supportive!!! That's so awesome!! But for the few who aren't, how could you? We should feel lucky that we got to be born in the right bodies!!! That makes our lives much easier than Isis's as a beautiful girl just as feminine and just as much a woman as us, who had to deal with being in a male body. Be grateful, not judgmental.
i would like to knw why it is that when people have the opposing opinion to this are seen as predjudice or ignorant everyone has opinions but when you hae the minority one everyone looks at you negatively
in the 2nd part the doctor said that most patients are still able to orgasm after surgery, as the tissue from the penis is used to build the clitoris (which is actually the opposite of what happens in the womb). I was wondering the same thing :D It really is amazing!
A feeling of gender misplacement (for lack of a better term) makes sense, because although Sperm contain X or Y sperm, for the first stages as an embryo, all babies are of the X chromosome; for female. We're all originally female. Then the change occurs at a certain stage depending on the chromosome of the sperm. So...i think gender confusion is possible.
Yes - Isis is no longer Male, and is thus a Female. Once an individual is bound to the greater of feminine characteristics, they are thus a female; the contrary also applies (e.g. if a given species if bound to a greater capacity of masculanity, they are thus a male; a male can become a female, and a female can become a male). Gender characteristics are also present in physiology and mentality; you can have a female mind with a male body.
@supergymnast1017 maybe a dating for just a month and just after such a life-changing experience it was too soon of him we don't know, but maybe it would've turned out better if he waited a little longer
I think that it is really great that tyra is bringing this to light HOWEVER it is so inappropriate to ask her to if she can orgasm. Do you ask biological women if they can achieve an orgasm? No, because everyone just assumes that every cis woman can achieve an orgasm. It is just TMI for that to be on a talk show, I hope it didn't make Isis uncomfortable because if someone asked me that as a cis woman, I would be offended.
"Until you unite your body with your soul." LOVE that line. It seems like a perfect description.
1:40 when Tyra said “you were hot” you can hear tamar braxton in the audience say “she tried it”
The swimsuit pics I absolutely LOVE the third pic that is amazing!
Wow...I teared up when he got on his knee! That was so sweet!
An interesting aspect of that is, our families always tell us to be ourselves and not let anybody stand in the way. Isis is the only person I've ever heard of that really takes that saying to heart and honors herself- in more ways than one. And that makes her the most beautiful person on this planet; inside and out.
I think the engagement was used to advertise the jewelry store using the ring lol
the end made me tear up. IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUUULLL OMG ><
My mouth legit DROPPED when he proposed....AWWWWWW!
Omg I started crying when he proposed to her. God does not make mistakes, and he has been smiling on Isis.
When he proposed....i started crying :") Isis is a great women... she deserves happiness forever!
OMYGOD! Tht was so adorable, congrats to Isis!
Isis looks gorgeous, and the ending was so sweet
OMGoddes that ending is a tear-jerker
This is awesome, I started crying afther the guy stood up and gave her the ring.
My girlfriend is going trough something similar like this and I swear to God ill make everithing within my power to help her out in her journey.
This is just so touching, it makes me want to melt into a little puddle
wow that proposal came from nowhere, how lovely! :) x
Isis has some great women in her life strong beautiful women...and a damn cute boyfriend too! She deserves everything that has come her way.
@Nikolai2099 That's amazing, do you mind me asking how it's going?
best way to propose...
I totally cried! Desmond and Isis
awwww! so cute together! Have a long and happy life, Isis my idol :).
It doesn't really matter what we think anyway. She seems to be happy, and the man she loves loves her. I'm happy for her.
wow....when i looks at the doctor's family picture...it breaks my heart...such a beautiful family....
Wow, really I new the minute I saw her you can always tell by the voice
isis is so fortunate to have a supportive momma and a man that loves her no matter what!
oh my god I screamed when he proposed to her, this is so adorable
oh my god i squealed so hard when she was proposed to holy crap
@iBrendaaah Yeah, I just read it on her blog a few days ago, someone asked her and she said it didn't last till long after the Tyra episode..
Isis is so beautiful, it's amazing. She's even prettier than Tyra who was born a woman. There is absolutely nothing masculine looking about Isis. Incredible!
@amandadee03 but he clearly said they've known each other and been friends for 3,5 years if i recall correctly. they've only been a couple for a month. so that's a different situation to if they just met each other a month ago
Oh my god!!!
made me cry.. :,) very sweet and beautiful isis.. :)
@tissetatten
There wasa model who died I think it was around 2005, more or less, and after that "skinny" models cannot be under a certain weight or naturally skinny.
So, yes, there is such thing as too skinny to model. The article I read this from, I think it was titled "Size 0" Interesting read.
glad to see that the man likes her.
he aint lusting for her, he loves her.
What a lucky girl Isis is. That man stuck with her throughout her change from man to the beautiful woman she is; a man that dedicated is hard to find these days. I cried when he proposed.
@271207 as far as i know it depends on the laws of the actual state. while in some states sex reassignment is recognized for the purpose of marriage (e.g. Kansas, New Jersey), in others it isn't. however most of the states permit name and sex to be changed on birth certificate. i'm not 100% sure how it actually works though, it is only what i've read on the internet
I am so happy for her! :D
aww that was so sweet. im so happy for her :)
"wow, you're hot" JAJAJAJAJAJ i love her tyra is so funny xD
Omg that was so cute, he's deffo one to keep:')
omg i cant b-lieve he proposed now I am in love with Desmond for being a real man for this and a real human to continue to love someone like this...Love is real ppl i am so happy for them
@GenerationalSavant
I didn't type that to cause a discussion.
The fact that they broke up not long after that only adds a bit to my point.
I'm just saying, people can discuss marriage all they want, as in "I want to marry you one day." but it doesn't mean they were ready that day, week, or even year.
I can talk about REALLY wanting a puppy, but if someone brought me one today, I wouldn't be able to care for it and it wouldn't be a comfortable and enjoyable experience for me.
i loved isis's photos the second one was my favorite one
Cause its on youtube?
What kind of remedial question is that?
OHHH GEZZZ sooo HAPPY for them... I CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!! GEZZZZ.... :)
@xTheFame The breakup? She said that herself on her website, weeks ago. She had just launched a blog or something where you could write to her, and I read through some of the questions. One person asked if she was still with the guy that proposed to her on the Tyra show, and she said NO, and that it ended shortly after the Tyra Show... Too bad. :(
This is just one example of all the poor people that have to go through this just because of the problem that occures in the mothers womb. So sad..brave people. It may sound icky but they do what they gotta do.
@amandadee03 But they have known each other for three years. So even though they've only been dating for 1 month, they have known each other for long enough.
In Isis's old photos, she looks like a female. She looks like she's supposed to be a female. And for the doctor, I would never have guessed she was transgender herself.
OMG!!!
This is SOOO cool...
T-T
@kittyangeldiva2 why'd that happen?
@Nimoisansvous no she had the surgery a month before the show but they knew eachother for 3 years. And been dating for the 3 years
Finally! I was always wondering about the Orgasm question. I thought its just for looks and looses the sensitivity.
these women are wonders of medicine and science.
@amandadee03 if you watch the first part of this episode he explains how they knew each other for 3 yrs and started out as friends
This man is a great man to not let the social norm keep him from loving her for who she is regardless.
And no he is not nuts he is in love
@Marblessa really? :OO how did you know? and why?
@rphay15 but they said they'd been dating for a month?
awesome !
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Nobody is saying that Tyra is not beautiful, but Isis, also, has an undeniable beauty that is more classic than Tyra's. For instance, she has those hugh eyes and those delicate features. Some men like large women and others like small women. Isis is fine boned and more delicate looking.
He said they knew each other for 3 yrs & he was suppressing his feelings for her. So he ACTUALLY proposed after 3 yrs of KNOWING Isis, 1 month of being in a relationship.
He proposed after a month of dating??
OMG BeCkY they were friends for like 3 and a half years before then tho
@webkinzfan432 Exactly.
And I dunno. Obviously I could be wrong, but her expression didn't seem overjoyed and surprised so much as, caught off guard and a bit.. worried, or uneasy.
OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE HE DID THAT, THAT WAS SOO CUUTE AND SWEET OF HIM!
How can you propose to someone only after a month of a relationship???????
awwwww... I cried!
I dont know,it just said that they split a couple months after the show :(
I love Tyra, she is a role model and she has a good sense of humour too. And she IS intellegent look at everything she's achieved. I know her looks and modelling career where a stepping stone but she could have not have achieved all she has if she didn't have the package.
ISIS YOU ARE GIVING IT GOOD...
omg! i'm so very happy for isis! I never thought she'd make it that far with Tyra's help. that's why I love Tyra!!
@icemage156 no it's after 3 years... Just one month since the surgery..
I'm glad most people in the comments are so supportive!!! That's so awesome!! But for the few who aren't, how could you? We should feel lucky that we got to be born in the right bodies!!! That makes our lives much easier than Isis's as a beautiful girl just as feminine and just as much a woman as us, who had to deal with being in a male body. Be grateful, not judgmental.
@Nikolai2099 I know that comment was 7months ago, but that's awesome... :)
i think it's amazing that desomd proposed, but only a month of dating? i mean 3 1/2 years of friendship isnt the same as 3 1/2 years of love.
I'll be balling when I get married.
too bad it didn't work out for them.. :( they broke up shortly hereafter...
Damn its only been a month & he's already proposing. She must be doing something right!
and it was also a Product-Placement...
so do that mean he didnt buy the ring himslef with his own money?
@shinocicada he didnt even like ask her, he just put the ring on her expecting her to say yes
i would like to knw why it is that when people have the opposing opinion to this are seen as predjudice or ignorant everyone has opinions but when you hae the minority one everyone looks at you negatively
i agree 100% how sad...and now I don't want to support tyra
Actually its the ANGLE. Shooting up elongates the image.
in the 2nd part the doctor said that most patients are still able to orgasm after surgery, as the tissue from the penis is used to build the clitoris (which is actually the opposite of what happens in the womb). I was wondering the same thing :D It really is amazing!
I agree he is quite sad
is she flatchested
GOT CHILLS.
thats crazy cuz i was thinking the same thing,I'm like he's gonna purpose!! Lol & he did...
@shinocicada even if it's on tv i am sure she would have say yes anyway
I did not expect a proposal o_o
A feeling of gender misplacement (for lack of a better term) makes sense, because although Sperm contain X or Y sperm, for the first stages as an embryo, all babies are of the X chromosome; for female. We're all originally female. Then the change occurs at a certain stage depending on the chromosome of the sperm. So...i think gender confusion is possible.
@spitearth hah! i didn't even notice! yeah she does look like Ciara kinda! especially with the nose
WOWW wist that was ma man!
hold on. i thought they were just dating. like 2 months. please correct me if im wrong. i think i am.
Yes - Isis is no longer Male, and is thus a Female. Once an individual is bound to the greater of feminine characteristics, they are thus a female; the contrary also applies (e.g. if a given species if bound to a greater capacity of masculanity, they are thus a male; a male can become a female, and a female can become a male). Gender characteristics are also present in physiology and mentality; you can have a female mind with a male body.
@supergymnast1017 maybe a dating for just a month and just after such a life-changing experience it was too soon of him
we don't know, but maybe it would've turned out better if he waited a little longer
@shinocicada well... it doesn't look like she wants to say no anyway o_0
I think that it is really great that tyra is bringing this to light HOWEVER it is so inappropriate to ask her to if she can orgasm. Do you ask biological women if they can achieve an orgasm? No, because everyone just assumes that every cis woman can achieve an orgasm. It is just TMI for that to be on a talk show, I hope it didn't make Isis uncomfortable because if someone asked me that as a cis woman, I would be offended.
I PROMISED MYSELF I WOULDNT CRY!! :[
@amandadee03 they knew each other within close proximity for 3 years.