The red one looks exactly like the old original American Pitbull Terrier. That's amazing. It's hard to see a dog like that outside of very old photos and artwork. So many breeds in the modern day have had the original traits for their specific work bred out of them for a specific look. It's nice to see that some people appreciate the original breeds and how perfectly they where bred/evolved for their tasks
I heard on a pod cast from a trainer who deals with protection dogs for police military and I was surprised to hear him give a shout out to bandogs.he indicated that Protection dogs back in the days were what you have created. And not the German shepherd's, Dutch shepherd's or Belgian Mali. He said that he found Ban dogs to be able to tolerate more pressure, and are after the fight it self and not the cause like most shepherd's, Mali, etc. He said some are relentless and show no hesitation in their apprehension. I had no idea how few little German dogs are actually solid from start to finish. He said even top lines have produced weaker dogs and they were still handed down from department to department even though they showed hesitation and a willingness to back down from a fight should the bad guy decided to put up a fight.
Facts. This is why I love you, Lee. Keep it 100%. Another tidbit you didn't get to - dogge is the German translation of the Old English docga or dogga (also synonymous with dogo and dogue). Dogge was originally a job description, not a breed or type.
I actually have one of your dogs! He’s from your dog justice and he’s the best dog I’ve ever had! Always feel protected around him he’s 3 and a healthy 120lbs
@@metro76100 these are banddogs though not pitbulls... A pit is NEVER gonna be 80-100lbs lol american Bullys will, but not pits .. this guy just has pitbulls IN his dog's line.
What you said about people getting bit is absolutely correct. I live off grid in AZ,I'm originally from Louisiana, love dogs. Always had dogs. Most of my dogs lay around in the shade. They've bitten anyone but their pretty intimidating, that's fine. I had a stranger to house asked if my dogs bites, honest answer, I don't know, he ain't never bit me. But if your curiosity is getting the best of you, walk over there and slap the shit out him, I'm kinda curious too. If course he didn't and that was good enough for me. Love the dogs, love the channel, as a side note where I live, the dogs have to be able to defend themselves. As for me their pretty protective. If the property. Have a great day.
When u breed them right, that's what you'll get lol. I had Colby dog's when I first started out with APBT and when I did tight breedings (inbreeding) the pups would ALLL come out looking like Primo , Pincher and other well known OOOOLD Colby dog's . Genetics are weird with dogs! Even the other APBT lines I have, when I make a breeding, often I'll get dogs that look like clones of dog's that have been dead since before I was born.. I hafta go back and look through all my gramps pics and pedigrees to see where the traits come from.
The beginning explanation regarding language....beautiful. So fitting for the dog world ...but also our world today 🤝 great video and knowledge transfer as always
I have a Wrecker x Widow female of yours. That is a very tight breeding based mostly on a small pitbull, she is a solid 120#, which amazes me but kind of speaks to the idea that genetic potential for larger dogs is still present in the pitbull and you will never get the consistent gameness from any other type of dog.
the old 'Bandogge' (from old England cira 1250ce) was probably bred from the English mastiff and now extinct bull and terrier, though we don't really know. They were just any type of large aggressive (lots of gameness) mastiff-type dog that as you say were banded by a chain during the day and let off at night to guard the land. For me, Bantu will always optimize what a bandog is supposed to be like, in, type and looks, gameness and ability.
Great vid I been saying for a couple of years now that these dogs are gonna be worth far more than any ammunition, gold, silver etc.. Cause families will eat.. Beautiful dogs you have sir.
I used help my grandad back in 84 as a kid..he raised and conditioned dogs for white in georgia..i remember him tellin me names like carver and tudor i even met Mr.Abrams owner of queen of hearts...i was around 9 or 10 ..i stated breeding and matching in 92 started with tons of Hammond's and sorell crosses..i know longer bree yhem but i have a girl left i bred her with my cousins bullmastiff and the pups were omg fire...came out on go but loves to be around ppl i kept a girl named her willow.. gorgeous strong protection dog...going to get her ready for hog hunting...
I love that red/buckskin dog with the black mask! Looks like allot of my APBT but twice the size lol. Mine are all under 50lb besides one big old male I have..
Knowledge. Keep it up mate.. during the early 1800s these dogs where getting banned in england so they had to breed em small to take them in the cellars under the pub to do there work. Words from joe mallen.
Any dog can be taught to be aggressive to man or animal. That said the American pit bull terrier is highly intelligent and should be considered a working breed, they clean house in canine competition and even hold herding titles. As someone with thousands of hours of research, there are paintings of bull baiting dogs from 1600 and before, that look exactly like the dog in my avatar and in the 40 pound range. My thinking is the breed existed long before 150 years ago, and were modified (some more, and some none) by adding larger breeds, and by adding terrier. It seems that today the majority of the dogs have gone back to the original 45 pound dog. Mayday was an exception, with larger breed DNA, and some of the Colby dogs were an exception, with terrier dogs bred in (look at the photos from 1900) The “working” pit bull, whether a sheriff deputy, herder, or catch dog can have a wide range of looks, where the ADBA show dogs will have a specific look. Eli is a 45 pound working dog (now retired and loves the grand kids) The only way he would bite a human is if it threatens a loved one, especially the kids, and despite being only 45 pounds, is a frightening force to anyone that rings the doorbell. But do I consider him a guard dog, not really. If there’s a coyote in the back yard, he however becomes a catch machine. Human aggression and animal aggression are not related. Period
@@elithepitbulldog2209 if you follow these dogs enough u will know the original pittbull became a staffordshire because of the pease law in england around 1820s, these pitbulls couldnt do the work they where made for so old timers who appreciated the sport had to adapt to there enviroments. Prior to this the dogs where bred bigger. If you read arthur healds book make ready from the 1930s, he tells u about how the staffords used to be bigger an longer legged, an what they where bred for. Just like the fox terrier until the show ruined the work ethic an standard so any hunter that wanted a good dog would go see mr jack russel. Who kept the dog true to its nature. So if u wanted a fox hunter u would buy a jack russel. Once upon a time people named the dogs of the work they did origin they came from or bloodline they where. But i have spent many hours research myself an us humans have shaped these dogs since the roman days an before, dogs of conquest, u can see old statues in roman times that look like the pitbull. But like all a specific phenotype doesnt always win. The old brain vs braun, barnstormer vs smarts, just like big vs small smaller dont use as much energy an wind, but bigger is more power n strength, the double edge sword, but a dog just wants to please its owner an if the owners like an train it to do a certain task. Sfter generstions its just gonna get better at the task.. look at becerrillo an the conquistidors, christopher columbus said 1 dog is worth more than 10 soldiers.
I love your videos always learn something every time I watch them!! I talked to your daughter via social media didn’t know it was her and totally freaked out of excitement when she told me who she was since I’ve been following you for some time, she was so sweet and awesome to chat with!!
I wish I can send you a picture of boomerang, he looks identical to the black dog that you have there, I'm glad that most people are ignorant when it comes to these dogs because I have one, and I will admit and I will tell the truth that Boomerang is my first dog, and yes I was in over my head but I've devoted my life to him I make sure that he is part of every decision that I make especially when it comes to having a very large yard and when it comes to his food he is on a raw diet, I love this dog so much he is my life I've had him for almost 10 years now, When he was 8 years old, we move to a townhouse where I was smack dab in the middle of these two narcissistic women who were jealous envious everything that a narcissist is and they tried to ruin my life, they hated me so much, and anyone who knows what a narcissist is all about you would know that you don't have to do anything to anger these people and for them to do horrible things to you, one of the women call the police and said that my dog bit her autistic son, and that's all the information the police got they didn't bother to check anything else out, and the only reason why he wasn't taken from me is because I had the whole community stand up for me, they knew me they knew Boomerang they watched him grow up I only moved five blocks away, the police tasered him, over a lie, he didn't do anything wrong, by the way my dog never bit anybody he's never bitten anybody he is a gentle giant, and her son is 6 ft 2 300 lb and 20 years old, this changed him, we were only there for 6 months but it was the worst 6 months of my life and his, I don't care what anybody says, you hear people say if some cop taser my dog I'd lose my s*** on him know you wouldn't, you would have a nervous breakdown like a normal person LOL, and that's exactly what I did I actually was put in the hospital because of it, it just didn't seem fair like it blew my mind because of the breed of my dog and the way he looks that someone can do this to me that someone could do this to him and lie, anyways, he is super protective of me now overprotective, and yes it was like night and day, I work with him everyday, and my son helps me out quite a bit because I am obviously biased because I love this dog, thank you for all the work you do and thank you for educating people on these wonderful dogs, it's just too bad that we have humans that have these dogs and use them for either Flex or nefarious reasons, when Boomerang met my family he was just a little puppy and they asked me what are you going to do when he's big and I said I haven't thought that far ahead yet LOL I don't suggest anybody do that , I do live in a one-bedroom, but I have the bottom floor and 1,000 square foot backyard, I take him everywhere with me, when I go to work the families that I work for ask me to bring him so the kids could play with him they missed him and they wait for him to come every week or every other week, he came to school with me, when I went back to get a GED and an English 30 so I can get a business degree, he graduated with us he even had his own outfit, I would have done a lot of things different, and I am lucky and blessed that he turned out the way he did because he is an amazing dog,
Thank you for a first class education, greetings from Wales, the game dog, bandog, bulldogge is a topic I have been interested in, looking forward to watching your videos
I have a sweet Sproodle (English Springer/poodle) because I needed a dog to be taught to be around my 4 rescue rabbits. Rabbits are dumped so often it’s heartbreaking. Use them for meat, fur, or commit to a 14 year pet with $$ vet bills. I also couldn’t find any ethical poodle breeders or rescues that had stable animals. My 45lb sproodle female who wouldn’t hurt anyone has the best ears and deepest bark I’ve ever heard. This is including pitties and honest to goodness mastiffs. She’s tall, long, and very slim (we have a slow feeder for her)- but I think people would consider twice before breaking in.
A shy mean dog can be deeply game. Has had no bearing on performance in my experience. in fact I have one that comes to mind. Wouldn’t come out his house and growled the whole time anyone was in the yard, even at feed time. Look at him pretty hard. Ended up sending him back to the breeder. Thibodeaux/Mims cross. Had another Jeep/Rascal cross, Long’s Margie to Loner. Wouldn’t let anyone touch him but me. Never even tried to lick me. A deeply game dog. Talented too.
Nice dogs. I had a rottweiler/apbt mix. It was a fantatic and very stable dog. Would protect me from man and beast. Very smart dog. Great with people or dogs as long as they werent a threat. He was 80 lbs so not the biggest dog but one of the best dogs ive ever owned. A mixed apbt actually fits well with my uses of athletic companion, protector, and an occasional wild boar hunt where it's legal.
I loved this video, Lee. Never heard of you before. Looking into what kind of dog i want to own in the future. As you menhion, a trainable in and outdoor gladiator type dog. And I love your social aswell as your scientific approach, openness, wisdom, and honestly. It's nice to see there are real people still out there. Thank you for your video. I will like your channel, and watch more of it. I had an Amstaff, she was the sweetest dog alive, turned 16 before she passed away, trainable till the end, very intellectual, and guarding when asked. Brilliant with children and in public, and a loss we mourned. I'd love a similar kind of dog, yet maybe a bit bigger. So I'm exploring the www. Be safe and carry on sir. Regards Ant Nijholt, the Netherlands
Hey lee. Im from California and am hoping to find a caliber of your dog eventually.. Just really ran into your channel and have been loving the content. I lost my boxer 2 years ago and am still waiting for the right pup but your vids help fill the void. Thanks
Since he mention the Jeckle and Hide ability of his well-bred American bandogs, you know , a protection family dogs that can judge the unwanted situation concerning j
I got a bandog , not a sentinel, he is a good boy and pretty good gaurd instincts. Pretty similar to your sentinel in appearance but more stocky. I really like the conformation of your dogs
That part about why people get bitten reminds me of rottweiler people on youtube hugging and leaning over and kissing their dogs, and their dog is snarling loudly, baring teeth, whale eyed, stiff, the whole deal, and the idiot human goes "oh, he's *purring* he loves daddy's kisses! This is just a rottweiler purring! He would never hurt a fly!"
Without a doubt, this video about dogs, but for the trained ear, it was about a lot more than just dogs... the political climate in our nation, heck the world is sheer poison in 2020...
I have a PresaxAPBT and wondering if she's too old to start protection training? She's just turned 3 and she's a rescue. Also, what age are protection dogs in their primes and what age are they too old? Hope someone can help answer these questions 🙏
The Bulldog is a small mastiff. They come from the Alaunt. A dog of the Alani tribe - a Persian group that now are associated with the Ossetians. There were three variants of the Alaunt: The Alaunt Veantre (large coursing mastiff like a Great Dane), the Alaunt Gentile ( more like an Argentinean Dogo) and the Alaunt de Boucherie (the Butcher's dog). In the 1400s the English Bulldog was called... "Bandogges" and... "Butcher's Alaunt". Bulldogs were crossed with Terriers in the 1700s. It has been documented that it was to improve the hardness and gameness of the Terrier. DOUBTLESS, some of these hybrids would be tested as the Bulldogs was tested. And they were. So we have the "Victorian Era Baiting Bulldog", Bulldog-Terrier hybrids (of two types: Improved Terrier and Hybrid Combative Dog). Eventually, the Bulldog and the Bulldog-Terrier blend that WORKED WELL would be recombined or blended together. And that's what I believe we have today.
I watched a purebred chocolate English labs. Massive dog. Could have killed me if it wanted to. I was extremely careful with the dog. Started out reading to it with my side towards it and threw out some treats. I hadn’t owned dogs at the time and I no experience wirh aggressive dogs. I had worked with other dogs so knew not to stare it down and bratty kids who would calm down during their favorite story. After a few days we could remove the gate and I was the *only* person who could watch the dog. There were two locked doors between us whenever I couldn’t carefully watch it or had access to a cast iron skillet. This was due to bad associations with an electronic fence. Again, this was a purebred Labrador. The larger the dog the more damage it can do. Add genetics and breeding and you get the danger factor.
I recently rescued a bandog from shelter, he tends to try and pounce my cat. Will he hurt her? He hurts when he jumps, but we love him to bits, he sleeps with me every night.
Impossible to say. Bandog isn't a breed. It is a job. If whoever you got the dog from told you it was a breed, they misinformed you. It really depends on the dog.
@@APBT-Bandog all I know is I love the great big goober. People are petrified of him lol, but he only ever hurts me by accident while playing cause of his size. Definitely says bandog on his adoption papers. I've just found you and subbed, I'll go watch and learn figure some things out.
Wow that last part about population was so interesting to me, i disagree i believe we have the smarts to preserve wild life and our species so we should enforce population control, but regardless of that your take on protection breeds was fascinating in terms of them increasing as resources get more limited.
excellent video. though, the apbt was used for other jobs, the sole, original purpose was to engage in mortal combat with other dogs. if this society were to acknowledge and accept that, I guarantee it would be less accidents. game dogs is a term that is used far too loosely. game bred should be the term used instead.
I noticed the pits on a chain but the bandog was on a leather or nylon cord Is that because the pit would break or chew the through it and are higher tendency to attack other animals just my opinion the gameness of the pit is overwhelming compared to most Am I right or wrong just studying myself a true dog lover not much of a fan of the hearders though I like my bird dogs for intelligence myself just my preference love my bird dogs hound dogs sports dogs and guard dogs are my favorites
@@APBT-Bandog I kinda thought that but the pits on the chain I was asking is that because he’d be more dog aggressive and more likely to try getting off or did it just work out that way when you filmed the video
@@thomashutchins6408 That had nothing to do with it. it was because the chain was already there, so we used it for the kennel dog...and the leash was on our house dog...just ran the leash through the I-bolt...around the post, and then looped over the backside (if you look close).
Hello hi asking for help hear I have a 9 week old American bulldog male puppy that's biteing and shakeing very aggressively also biteing my kids and myself just can't seem to make him stop every video on RUclips say don't spank there snout. Well I tried hitting him and he don't feel pain I gave him and good one on his nose at night he was biteing me in my sleep made him cry. I felt so bad please anyone out there with advice I dont want to hit him but don't know how else to train him should I keep spanking his nose I don't want to mess up his personality he's house training perfectly going to door to go out when he's calm he sleeps with kids but he also tried biteing my son on the ear the other day just need some good advice from someone please
It sounds like you have a dog you don't know how to handle (no offense intended, but I have to be direct for safety of your family and pet). As a result, I would recommend you contact a professional trainer in your area for a professional assessment OR return the puppy to the breeder.
Pitbulls dont display agression towards humans infact the opposite only if they have been trained too do so as any dog breed. Naturally even when they where used as fighting dogs in england there specifics breeds where bred too not avoid humans at all as even in the dig fights they would be handled by there owners along the referees. This i lesrnt from the history off the apbts.
Hello, Lee. I agree that the working dog will increase. It is one of the reasons I did not get another Jack Russell... (awesome breed to me I love Jacks) but decided to go with two APBTs. At least that is what some people say they are. They are PR UKC... but they are blue. I say "but" because as you probably are aware many people do not consider my dogs an APBTs. Perhaps, you can shed some light on why? I believe my quest is going to be focusing on the now extinct Blue Paul Terrier ( or blue Poll), and how it is related to the lines of APBTs in the United States. I'd love to hear your feedback on this and/or do a video on the subject if you believe it has any merit. I also noticed you are licensed in MS. My dogs were born in MS. Thank you.
The blue paul terrier is not likely to be the justification for the blue in a UKC “pit bull.” Odds are, those dogs simply have outcrosses in there that are not reported even though that may not be what you wish to hear. I say this because if the source was Blue Paul, then blue would most likely have been seen in the ADBA dogs as well from the 1930’s to today...& they were not seen in the 30’s-80’s.
From what I've read the Doberman is the only breed that was created specifically to protect an individual as opposed to property, livestock, etc. Would you ever consider using any in your breeding program? I know they're not catch dogs but it seems like from the right bloodlines they would be natural protectors.
The Dobermann is very fragile breed, has a very weak grip (bite), and tends to be very insecure. I would never use them. They are very intelligent though.
@@APBT-Bandog Ok thanks. How do you feel about Dogo Argentinos? I know they were bred for hog hunting but I've seen people trying to use them for personal protection.
Madman1 Rug I have been working protection dogs for 20 years and I have worked them myself with a compression sleeve and one can barely feel them on the grip. No comparison to a GSD or an APBT. “Breed based” “bite force” stats mean nothing since they vary on why the dog is biting, where the bite measuring decide is in the dog’s mouth, and the individual doing the bite.
Dobbies are not the only dog bred that way... and are not even top 10 battle dog... of all slim headed dogs I would use malinois or black Russian terrier...
Can I ask why your bandogge has a 3rd of its tail? Why not crop it as a stumb or just leave the full tail? A American pitbull shouldn't be over 70lbs and should have a Bruce Lee type body. Way tomany people class non pitbulls as pitbulls. Also I read Rottweilers were originally used to defend family treasures when on transport. Interesting each breeds back ground.
I speculate enough time and breed mixing has passed to where your dogs can be used for certain police departments imo. I may be wrong. What your doing here is fascinating because we don't have anyone in America on your level of facility, time , breeding and selective breeding to legitimize a breed.
Love to see dogs restrained on a six ft chain attached to a 4x4 post with not a drop of water or shade in sight. Very questionable attention to the animals in your care/
if there is overpopulation in this world, the forests would be cleared. There will be a potential human animal conflict and soon all the prey would probably disappear due to over hunting.. Overpopulation will reduce wilderness space for food production or agriculture. When there are prey animals who have to live in wilderness, very few animals may be able to adapt to the new landscape.
A broken tail or spine from someone grabbing the tail can be a ruined dog for life and a ruined dog can end up being bad enough to be a euthanized dog.... After hundreds of years of docking and cropping to avoid injury you'd think people would learn to understand the reason why its done
The red one looks exactly like the old original American Pitbull Terrier. That's amazing. It's hard to see a dog like that outside of very old photos and artwork. So many breeds in the modern day have had the original traits for their specific work bred out of them for a specific look. It's nice to see that some people appreciate the original breeds and how perfectly they where bred/evolved for their tasks
Looks like a sharpai mix to me
I heard on a pod cast from a trainer who deals with protection dogs for police military and I was surprised to hear him give a shout out to bandogs.he indicated that Protection dogs back in the days were what you have created. And not the German shepherd's, Dutch shepherd's or Belgian Mali. He said that he found Ban dogs to be able to tolerate more pressure, and are after the fight it self and not the cause like most shepherd's, Mali, etc. He said some are relentless and show no hesitation in their apprehension. I had no idea how few little German dogs are actually solid from start to finish. He said even top lines have produced weaker dogs and they were still handed down from department to department even though they showed hesitation and a willingness to back down from a fight should the bad guy decided to put up a fight.
"I'm willing to learn from anybody that can do or explain things that I cannot do or explain." 💯💯💯
Facts. This is why I love you, Lee. Keep it 100%.
Another tidbit you didn't get to - dogge is the German translation of the Old English docga or dogga (also synonymous with dogo and dogue). Dogge was originally a job description, not a breed or type.
I actually have one of your dogs! He’s from your dog justice and he’s the best dog I’ve ever had! Always feel protected around him he’s 3 and a healthy 120lbs
How much he selling them for
I wanna breed my pitbull
@@metro76100 these are banddogs though not pitbulls... A pit is NEVER gonna be 80-100lbs lol american Bullys will, but not pits .. this guy just has pitbulls IN his dog's line.
Big dog 👍🏾
Hearders like border collie ?
Nip at cattle sheep heels
What you said about people getting bit is absolutely correct. I live off grid in AZ,I'm originally from Louisiana, love dogs. Always had dogs. Most of my dogs lay around in the shade. They've bitten anyone but their pretty intimidating, that's fine. I had a stranger to house asked if my dogs bites, honest answer, I don't know, he ain't never bit me. But if your curiosity is getting the best of you, walk over there and slap the shit out him, I'm kinda curious too. If course he didn't and that was good enough for me. Love the dogs, love the channel, as a side note where I live, the dogs have to be able to defend themselves. As for me their pretty protective. If the property. Have a great day.
I bought a dog from Lee and I am very happy about the dog I got. My Bandog is a protector and that's what I wanted.
That pit bull looks like a throwback, like some of those dogs you see in old pictures way back in the day.
When u breed them right, that's what you'll get lol. I had Colby dog's when I first started out with APBT and when I did tight breedings (inbreeding) the pups would ALLL come out looking like Primo , Pincher and other well known OOOOLD Colby dog's . Genetics are weird with dogs! Even the other APBT lines I have, when I make a breeding, often I'll get dogs that look like clones of dog's that have been dead since before I was born.. I hafta go back and look through all my gramps pics and pedigrees to see where the traits come from.
@@mikefrost8775 genetics are definitely weird,not only do they carry physical traits but also behavior.
@@MrImaghost oh like humans?
Fr I though that same thing
I enjoyed this one Lee! Im glad your son will takeover! Im gonna get one of your dogs next year if the world doesnt end.
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Did you end up getting one ?
The beginning explanation regarding language....beautiful. So fitting for the dog world ...but also our world today 🤝 great video and knowledge transfer as always
One of the best dog men I've seen in 35 years on this earth I can tell you love ur dogs like u love ur kids and family much respect Mr.Lee
Love your thought process. Thanks for sharing...
I have a Wrecker x Widow female of yours. That is a very tight breeding based mostly on a small pitbull, she is a solid 120#, which amazes me but kind of speaks to the idea that genetic potential for larger dogs is still present in the pitbull and you will never get the consistent gameness from any other type of dog.
I'm hoping you can do a Dogumentary feature soon.
I hope not
This would be great
@@wailalaun7256 700k subs,why not?great promotion!
@@zeljakis817 for promotion yes but not the same depth. Social Bulldog Podcast is about 45 mins minimum... but hardly 10 likes per video
pretty real stuff at the end of the video there... a year later and here we are.
Truly enjoyed this video. Refreshing to hear good content rooted in hands on experience and research.
I like your way of thinking. I want to learn more about Bandogs
thank you
the old 'Bandogge' (from old England cira 1250ce) was probably bred from the English mastiff and now extinct bull and terrier, though we don't really know. They were just any type of large aggressive (lots of gameness) mastiff-type dog that as you say were banded by a chain during the day and let off at night to guard the land.
For me, Bantu will always optimize what a bandog is supposed to be like, in, type and looks, gameness and ability.
Great vid
I been saying for a couple of years now that these dogs are gonna be worth far more than any ammunition, gold, silver etc..
Cause families will eat..
Beautiful dogs you have sir.
Should go into more of the terrier topic. Love these little short info video’s
I used help my grandad back in 84 as a kid..he raised and conditioned dogs for white in georgia..i remember him tellin me names like carver and tudor i even met Mr.Abrams owner of queen of hearts...i was around 9 or 10 ..i stated breeding and matching in 92 started with tons of Hammond's and sorell crosses..i know longer bree yhem but i have a girl left i bred her with my cousins bullmastiff and the pups were omg fire...came out on go but loves to be around ppl i kept a girl named her willow.. gorgeous strong protection dog...going to get her ready for hog hunting...
I love that red/buckskin dog with the black mask! Looks like allot of my APBT but twice the size lol. Mine are all under 50lb besides one big old male I have..
"The Working Dog will increase" Awesomeness! My boy is 28kgs, tho he looks lil bigger.
Knowledge. Keep it up mate.. during the early 1800s these dogs where getting banned in england so they had to breed em small to take them in the cellars under the pub to do there work.
Words from joe mallen.
Yep joe mallen what a guy,would of loved to of sat down with a pint or two just to talk game dogs...
Any dog can be taught to be aggressive to man or animal. That said the American pit bull terrier is highly intelligent and should be considered a working breed, they clean house in canine competition and even hold herding titles.
As someone with thousands of hours of research, there are paintings of bull baiting dogs from 1600 and before, that look exactly like the dog in my avatar and in the 40 pound range.
My thinking is the breed existed long before 150 years ago, and were modified (some more, and some none) by adding larger breeds, and by adding terrier.
It seems that today the majority of the dogs have gone back to the original 45 pound dog. Mayday was an exception, with larger breed DNA, and some of the Colby dogs were an exception, with terrier dogs bred in (look at the photos from 1900)
The “working” pit bull, whether a sheriff deputy, herder, or catch dog can have a wide range of looks, where the ADBA show dogs will have a specific look. Eli is a 45 pound working dog (now retired and loves the grand kids)
The only way he would bite a human is if it threatens a loved one, especially the kids, and despite being only 45 pounds, is a frightening force to anyone that rings the doorbell. But do I consider him a guard dog, not really. If there’s a coyote in the back yard, he however becomes a catch machine. Human aggression and animal aggression are not related. Period
@@elithepitbulldog2209 if you follow these dogs enough u will know the original pittbull became a staffordshire because of the pease law in england around 1820s, these pitbulls couldnt do the work they where made for so old timers who appreciated the sport had to adapt to there enviroments. Prior to this the dogs where bred bigger. If you read arthur healds book make ready from the 1930s, he tells u about how the staffords used to be bigger an longer legged, an what they where bred for. Just like the fox terrier until the show ruined the work ethic an standard so any hunter that wanted a good dog would go see mr jack russel. Who kept the dog true to its nature. So if u wanted a fox hunter u would buy a jack russel. Once upon a time people named the dogs of the work they did origin they came from or bloodline they where.
But i have spent many hours research myself an us humans have shaped these dogs since the roman days an before, dogs of conquest, u can see old statues in roman times that look like the pitbull. But like all a specific phenotype doesnt always win. The old brain vs braun, barnstormer vs smarts, just like big vs small smaller dont use as much energy an wind, but bigger is more power n strength, the double edge sword, but a dog just wants to please its owner an if the owners like an train it to do a certain task. Sfter generstions its just gonna get better at the task.. look at becerrillo an the conquistidors, christopher columbus said 1 dog is worth more than 10 soldiers.
And i also heard years ago from a vet the presa canario was bred specifically to hunt and catch ppl..
What would vets know about that? 🤷🏼♀️
I love your videos always learn something every time I watch them!! I talked to your daughter via social media didn’t know it was her and totally freaked out of excitement when she told me who she was since I’ve been following you for some time, she was so sweet and awesome to chat with!!
I wish I can send you a picture of boomerang, he looks identical to the black dog that you have there, I'm glad that most people are ignorant when it comes to these dogs because I have one, and I will admit and I will tell the truth that Boomerang is my first dog, and yes I was in over my head but I've devoted my life to him I make sure that he is part of every decision that I make especially when it comes to having a very large yard and when it comes to his food he is on a raw diet, I love this dog so much he is my life I've had him for almost 10 years now,
When he was 8 years old, we move to a townhouse where I was smack dab in the middle of these two narcissistic women who were jealous envious everything that a narcissist is and they tried to ruin my life, they hated me so much, and anyone who knows what a narcissist is all about you would know that you don't have to do anything to anger these people and for them to do horrible things to you, one of the women call the police and said that my dog bit her autistic son, and that's all the information the police got they didn't bother to check anything else out, and the only reason why he wasn't taken from me is because I had the whole community stand up for me, they knew me they knew Boomerang they watched him grow up I only moved five blocks away, the police tasered him, over a lie, he didn't do anything wrong, by the way my dog never bit anybody he's never bitten anybody he is a gentle giant, and her son is 6 ft 2 300 lb and 20 years old, this changed him, we were only there for 6 months but it was the worst 6 months of my life and his, I don't care what anybody says, you hear people say if some cop taser my dog I'd lose my s*** on him know you wouldn't, you would have a nervous breakdown like a normal person LOL, and that's exactly what I did I actually was put in the hospital because of it, it just didn't seem fair like it blew my mind because of the breed of my dog and the way he looks that someone can do this to me that someone could do this to him and lie, anyways, he is super protective of me now overprotective, and yes it was like night and day, I work with him everyday, and my son helps me out quite a bit because I am obviously biased because I love this dog, thank you for all the work you do and thank you for educating people on these wonderful dogs, it's just too bad that we have humans that have these dogs and use them for either Flex or nefarious reasons, when Boomerang met my family he was just a little puppy and they asked me what are you going to do when he's big and I said I haven't thought that far ahead yet LOL I don't suggest anybody do that , I do live in a one-bedroom, but I have the bottom floor and 1,000 square foot backyard, I take him everywhere with me, when I go to work the families that I work for ask me to bring him so the kids could play with him they missed him and they wait for him to come every week or every other week, he came to school with me, when I went back to get a GED and an English 30 so I can get a business degree, he graduated with us he even had his own outfit, I would have done a lot of things different, and I am lucky and blessed that he turned out the way he did because he is an amazing dog,
Very informative
Thank you for a first class education, greetings from Wales, the game dog, bandog, bulldogge is a topic I have been interested in, looking forward to watching your videos
Our boy Chico is half American Bulldog and half Apbt .70 pounds and a natural guard dog.Easy to train but you have to respect him.❤
I have a sweet Sproodle (English Springer/poodle) because I needed a dog to be taught to be around my 4 rescue rabbits. Rabbits are dumped so often it’s heartbreaking. Use them for meat, fur, or commit to a 14 year pet with $$ vet bills. I also couldn’t find any ethical poodle breeders or rescues that had stable animals.
My 45lb sproodle female who wouldn’t hurt anyone has the best ears and deepest bark I’ve ever heard. This is including pitties and honest to goodness mastiffs. She’s tall, long, and very slim (we have a slow feeder for her)- but I think people would consider twice before breaking in.
A shy mean dog can be deeply game. Has had no bearing on performance in my experience. in fact I have one that comes to mind. Wouldn’t come out his house and growled the whole time anyone was in the yard, even at feed time. Look at him pretty hard. Ended up sending him back to the breeder. Thibodeaux/Mims cross. Had another Jeep/Rascal cross, Long’s Margie to Loner. Wouldn’t let anyone touch him but me. Never even tried to lick me. A deeply game dog. Talented too.
Nice dogs. I had a rottweiler/apbt mix. It was a fantatic and very stable dog. Would protect me from man and beast. Very smart dog. Great with people or dogs as long as they werent a threat.
He was 80 lbs so not the biggest dog but one of the best dogs ive ever owned. A mixed apbt actually fits well with my uses of athletic companion, protector, and an occasional wild boar hunt where it's legal.
I loved this video, Lee. Never heard of you before. Looking into what kind of dog i want to own in the future. As you menhion, a trainable in and outdoor gladiator type dog. And I love your social aswell as your scientific approach, openness, wisdom, and honestly. It's nice to see there are real people still out there. Thank you for your video. I will like your channel, and watch more of it. I had an Amstaff, she was the sweetest dog alive, turned 16 before she passed away, trainable till the end, very intellectual, and guarding when asked. Brilliant with children and in public, and a loss we mourned. I'd love a similar kind of dog, yet maybe a bit bigger. So I'm exploring the www. Be safe and carry on sir. Regards Ant Nijholt, the Netherlands
Hey lee. Im from California and am hoping to find a caliber of your dog eventually.. Just really ran into your channel and have been loving the content. I lost my boxer 2 years ago and am still waiting for the right pup but your vids help fill the void. Thanks
Gladiators , yes . I would love to see them work . And videos on how you train them.
I have one Bandog puppy , bluenose pitbull mixed with Bullmastiff.
Great knowledge! Just discovered the channel.
Since he mention the Jeckle and Hide ability of his well-bred American bandogs, you know , a protection family dogs that can judge the unwanted situation concerning j
This was very informative and very well broken down
Great video Lee ! Thanks
Lee, when is the podcast coming?? We need at least an hour of your wisdom!!!!
U made some good points!!!!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾💆🏾💆🏾💆🏾😉😉😉😉🧠🧠🧠
Thank you. I have learned so much from you.
I got a bandog , not a sentinel, he is a good boy and pretty good gaurd instincts. Pretty similar to your sentinel in appearance but more stocky. I really like the conformation of your dogs
My dog has much shorter legs as well
I had a Doberman went 105 he was a beast to my boy one my best and I’ve had em all
That part about why people get bitten reminds me of rottweiler people on youtube hugging and leaning over and kissing their dogs, and their dog is snarling loudly, baring teeth, whale eyed, stiff, the whole deal, and the idiot human goes "oh, he's *purring* he loves daddy's kisses! This is just a rottweiler purring! He would never hurt a fly!"
Great video. Long live the working dogs🙏🐕🙌❤
Without a doubt, this video about dogs, but for the trained ear, it was about a lot more than just dogs... the political climate in our nation, heck the world is sheer poison in 2020...
That is a handsome pitbull
thanks
It's beloved family in a dangerouse situations
Excellent video, interesting information. Thank you sir
I have a PresaxAPBT and wondering if she's too old to start protection training? She's just turned 3 and she's a rescue. Also, what age are protection dogs in their primes and what age are they too old? Hope someone can help answer these questions 🙏
Your first dog in video stunning dog
Thank you very much! His name is Reptar, and he is my son's dog. He is currently 10 years old and doing very well.
I love the pitbull and demeanor. RLTW
Looks like there is alot of Presa in the American Sentinel dog.
None
My guy we think alot alike....subscribing
Good after noon and happy holiday, What made you first decide to breed banddogs
No one had dogs with all the traits I desired
I want ask Mr. Lee Robinson if I can raise his produce bandogge as a house family oriented, but fully prepared to protect my family from intruders,
I said same thing about the working breeds like the Doberman Rottweiler and others ppl will be buying them more in the future than pets
Does it matter for work purposes/is it common for a bandog to lose an upper canine tooth? As the bite power actually comes from the back of the jaw?
The Bulldog is a small mastiff. They come from the Alaunt. A dog of the Alani tribe - a Persian group that now are associated with the Ossetians.
There were three variants of the Alaunt: The Alaunt Veantre (large coursing mastiff like a Great Dane), the Alaunt Gentile ( more like an Argentinean Dogo) and the Alaunt de Boucherie (the Butcher's dog). In the 1400s the English Bulldog was called... "Bandogges" and... "Butcher's Alaunt".
Bulldogs were crossed with Terriers in the 1700s. It has been documented that it was to improve the hardness and gameness of the Terrier. DOUBTLESS, some of these hybrids would be tested as the Bulldogs was tested. And they were. So we have the "Victorian Era Baiting Bulldog", Bulldog-Terrier hybrids (of two types: Improved Terrier and Hybrid Combative Dog). Eventually, the Bulldog and the Bulldog-Terrier blend that WORKED WELL would be recombined or blended together. And that's what I believe we have today.
I watched a purebred chocolate English labs. Massive dog. Could have killed me if it wanted to. I was extremely careful with the dog. Started out reading to it with my side towards it and threw out some treats. I hadn’t owned dogs at the time and I no experience wirh aggressive dogs.
I had worked with other dogs so knew not to stare it down and bratty kids who would calm down during their favorite story. After a few days we could remove the gate and I was the *only* person who could watch the dog. There were two locked doors between us whenever I couldn’t carefully watch it or had access to a cast iron skillet.
This was due to bad associations with an electronic fence. Again, this was a purebred Labrador. The larger the dog the more damage it can do. Add genetics and breeding and you get the danger factor.
Gorgeous dogs!! 😍
Good content thank you for your knowledge
Healthy looking dogs.
I enjoyed this video!!
I have Cane Corso/Great Pyrenees mix pups now, would that be considered as Bandogs
I wouldn’t consider it one
Great video
Are bandogge and American Neo bull the same breed?
Yes
I recently rescued a bandog from shelter, he tends to try and pounce my cat. Will he hurt her? He hurts when he jumps, but we love him to bits, he sleeps with me every night.
Impossible to say. Bandog isn't a breed. It is a job. If whoever you got the dog from told you it was a breed, they misinformed you. It really depends on the dog.
@@APBT-Bandog seriously omg that's what is says on his papers, I'm in Australia.
@@APBT-Bandog all I know is I love the great big goober. People are petrified of him lol, but he only ever hurts me by accident while playing cause of his size. Definitely says bandog on his adoption papers. I've just found you and subbed, I'll go watch and learn figure some things out.
@@APBT-Bandog My dog looks a lot like bumper, different markings but the same figure. Are their tales docked? And by job you mean pig hunting?
@@APBT-Bandog sorry to bug ya ey, so many questions.
What’s the difference in Bandogge and Bandog is it just two ways of spelling it or two different breeds
Spelling
@@APBT-Bandog thanks for clearing that up I appreciate it
What style of ear cropping does that Pitbull have that's interesting I like it
Looks like a regular short crop just folded over
It’s ears remind me of the shar pei.
The future of dogs will be dogs that can hunt & or protect family, food & property will replace the average pet dog👍🏼
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Ever since my friend ROBERT intro duced me to you, I have been educated. Do you have any dogs with more livestock guarding qualities?
We don't have livestock guardian types. We have dogs bred for protection work of humans and bred to catch hogs.
Wow that last part about population was so interesting to me, i disagree i believe we have the smarts to preserve wild life and our species so we should enforce population control, but regardless of that your take on protection breeds was fascinating in terms of them increasing as resources get more limited.
A quarry is not a ditch or a valley. Lol
You're a scientist? Lmfao. I can tell.
sharp bulldogs 🤠💪would a bandog work as a chicken yard dog
Seems like you have resurrected the aluant dogs
Isn't that pitfall on the bigger side of the breed?
Yes. But hes still within the standard. Prob 55 60lbs
excellent video. though, the apbt was used for other jobs, the sole, original purpose was to engage in mortal combat with other dogs. if this society were to acknowledge and accept that, I guarantee it would be less accidents. game dogs is a term that is used far too loosely. game bred should be the term used instead.
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I noticed the pits on a chain but the bandog was on a leather or nylon cord Is that because the pit would break or chew the through it and are higher tendency to attack other animals just my opinion the gameness of the pit is overwhelming compared to most Am I right or wrong just studying myself a true dog lover not much of a fan of the hearders though I like my bird dogs for intelligence myself just my preference love my bird dogs hound dogs sports dogs and guard dogs are my favorites
None of my dogs are EVER left on a leather or nylon tether. That is just temporary for the video.
@@APBT-Bandog I kinda thought that but the pits on the chain I was asking is that because he’d be more dog aggressive and more likely to try getting off or did it just work out that way when you filmed the video
@@thomashutchins6408 That had nothing to do with it. it was because the chain was already there, so we used it for the kennel dog...and the leash was on our house dog...just ran the leash through the I-bolt...around the post, and then looped over the backside (if you look close).
Hello hi asking for help hear I have a 9 week old American bulldog male puppy that's biteing and shakeing very aggressively also biteing my kids and myself just can't seem to make him stop every video on RUclips say don't spank there snout. Well I tried hitting him and he don't feel pain I gave him and good one on his nose at night he was biteing me in my sleep made him cry. I felt so bad please anyone out there with advice I dont want to hit him but don't know how else to train him should I keep spanking his nose I don't want to mess up his personality he's house training perfectly going to door to go out when he's calm he sleeps with kids but he also tried biteing my son on the ear the other day just need some good advice from someone please
It sounds like you have a dog you don't know how to handle (no offense intended, but I have to be direct for safety of your family and pet). As a result, I would recommend you contact a professional trainer in your area for a professional assessment OR return the puppy to the breeder.
Pitbulls dont display agression towards humans infact the opposite only if they have been trained too do so as any dog breed. Naturally even when they where used as fighting dogs in england there specifics breeds where bred too not avoid humans at all as even in the dig fights they would be handled by there owners along the referees. This i lesrnt from the history off the apbts.
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90% of bandogs or what a bandog should look like are black with brindle stripes are tall and very athletically built and aren't short and stocky
Hello, Lee. I agree that the working dog will increase. It is one of the reasons I did not get another Jack Russell... (awesome breed to me I love Jacks) but decided to go with two APBTs. At least that is what some people say they are. They are PR UKC... but they are blue. I say "but" because as you probably are aware many people do not consider my dogs an APBTs. Perhaps, you can shed some light on why? I believe my quest is going to be focusing on the now extinct Blue Paul Terrier ( or blue Poll), and how it is related to the lines of APBTs in the United States. I'd love to hear your feedback on this and/or do a video on the subject if you believe it has any merit. I also noticed you are licensed in MS. My dogs were born in MS. Thank you.
The blue paul terrier is not likely to be the justification for the blue in a UKC “pit bull.” Odds are, those dogs simply have outcrosses in there that are not reported even though that may not be what you wish to hear. I say this because if the source was Blue Paul, then blue would most likely have been seen in the ADBA dogs as well from the 1930’s to today...& they were not seen in the 30’s-80’s.
From what I've read the Doberman is the only breed that was created specifically to protect an individual as opposed to property, livestock, etc. Would you ever consider using any in your breeding program? I know they're not catch dogs but it seems like from the right bloodlines they would be natural protectors.
The Dobermann is very fragile breed, has a very weak grip (bite), and tends to be very insecure. I would never use them. They are very intelligent though.
@@APBT-Bandog Ok thanks. How do you feel about Dogo Argentinos? I know they were bred for hog hunting but I've seen people trying to use them for personal protection.
@@APBT-Bandog Doberman have a bite force of 245/305 psi , APBT 235 psi. German Shepherd 238 psi and you call the Doberman bite force weak?
Madman1 Rug I have been working protection dogs for 20 years and I have worked them myself with a compression sleeve and one can barely feel them on the grip. No comparison to a GSD or an APBT. “Breed based” “bite force” stats mean nothing since they vary on why the dog is biting, where the bite measuring decide is in the dog’s mouth, and the individual doing the bite.
Dobbies are not the only dog bred that way... and are not even top 10 battle dog... of all slim headed dogs I would use malinois or black Russian terrier...
Can I ask why your bandogge has a 3rd of its tail? Why not crop it as a stumb or just leave the full tail? A American pitbull shouldn't be over 70lbs and should have a Bruce Lee type body. Way tomany people class non pitbulls as pitbulls. Also I read Rottweilers were originally used to defend family treasures when on transport. Interesting each breeds back ground.
americanbandog.com/cropped-ears-docked-tails
I was with you until you dropped the stick twice
I speculate enough time and breed mixing has passed to where your dogs can be used for certain police departments imo. I may be wrong. What your doing here is fascinating because we don't have anyone in America on your level of facility, time , breeding and selective breeding to legitimize a breed.
Love to see dogs restrained on a six ft chain attached to a 4x4 post with not a drop of water or shade in sight. Very questionable attention to the animals in your care/
He is doing it to make the video and keep them safe from each other.
who is that tatonka dog off of
I don't have a "Tatonka" dog. My Sorrells dogs are from stock off Bert's yard and Madison Parker's stock...nothing to do with Joanie.
if there is overpopulation in this world, the forests would be cleared. There will be a potential human animal conflict and soon all the prey would probably disappear due to over hunting.. Overpopulation will reduce wilderness space for food production or agriculture. When there are prey animals who have to live in wilderness, very few animals may be able to adapt to the new landscape.
I love the American sentinal just wish they had a longer tail. No hate just sayn 🙏🏽
They're docked to protect the tail from injury
A broken tail or spine from someone grabbing the tail can be a ruined dog for life and a ruined dog can end up being bad enough to be a euthanized dog....
After hundreds of years of docking and cropping to avoid injury you'd think people would learn to understand the reason why its done
dont act like we are stupid.
Can definitely tell he is a sorrells dog