@@TominatorGaming the royal navy had 1 M class sub converted to a sub aircraft carrier and it sank in 1932 in all likely hood most of the us navy won't have know about HMS M2. Also M2 was 90 meters long with a beam of 8 meters and displaced 1600 ton on the surface the the i-400 subs where 122 meters long with a beam of 12 meters and displaced 6560 tons. No one was really amazed that they could launch aircraft the USN evan experimented with that. The colossal for size for that time is what surprised most.
@@That_Soviet_Memer Er... America had it. Lol. More like, America wasn't going to hand the USSR a way to sneak planes right up to the American coastline.
Same. If it had been me, I would have scuttled only two of the subs and a mock-up, and then stored the last one in a secret facility, to see if its technology could be refined, improved, and utilized, and then, when we determined it was safe, donated it to a museum.
Who said their isn't some preserved? ;) Stuff like this is cocaine for american generals and military scientists, one way or another they did get a full model and kept it in a secret facility. Ofcourse stuff like that isn't supposed to be known to the public. America has alot of tricks up its sleeves and has hundreds of secret weapons of war
@Epinephrine He's making a joke since a spacecraft carrier would be much more intimidating and that Gundam is a brand in Japan would make a very Hilarious and terrifying scene. I might be wrong unless night parade explains it himself 😅
If you think this is cool you should see the Aircraft Carrier zeppelins the US navy had. Just imagine a giant balloon looking thing in the sky launching and picking up aircraft.
This concept is quite brilliant. Imaine the bombers replaced with unmanned drones with jet engine. They could literally deploy these drones in a matter of minutes and disappear into the sea and simply never engage directly. Wouldnt need a huge fleet like carriers since they can just hide underwater and get out before things heat up
@@iancrowley420 That’s not the same thing. SSBNs are not intended to be used for conventional warfare nor expected to recover their aircraft/weapon carriers after they finish their missions. Instead they’re used for Nuclear Deterrence.
@@belmarkestrellanes8188 Nowadays? It's a bit less impractical. At least modern planes could have GPS to locate the carrier and use jump jets to take off and land. I'm sure there's still some reason no one has built one though. Crush depth springs immediately to mind. Hard to mate a pressure hull with an aircraft hanger.
@@saturn5mtw567 They never do. They(USA, British) are forced to work with Soviet because there is common enemy(The Axis). Once the common enemy is gone(ww2 ended), the reason for cooperation gone with it.
hole WW2 was a big scam 2,5 superpowers (US,Russia,GB) vs 1 little 80mio people land. Yes japan and italy where alies, but the list of Allies of US is a long list. When you take Manpower,Resources and aviable land space into concideration its even a bigger scam like odds above > 20:vs 1
Japan forced the US to declare on them, Germany could have done nothing, there was no part of the tripartite pact that said Germany would have to declare war on Japans enemies, instead Hitler and Germany *CHOSE* to join Japan in the war
The sun (like other stars) is a hydrogen fusion reactor; the bombs which the USA used to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians were uranium fission devices.
The boat ride getting called off when Japan surrendered must have been a relief for that crew. Would make a great movie or documentary. The Last Tour-I Should Be Dead 😂
For those that are interested, these submarines play a large role in the animated alternative series (as well as novel & 90s games) konpeki no kantai (紺碧の艦隊）、which is still untranslated due to its notoriety; wherein Japan is able to win the war by bringing an expanded fleet of I-400 type machines to bear. It's absolutely a power fantasy, but interesting if only for that reason.
Ironically while that would have helped, Japan would have still lost the war no matter what they did. Simply put there was no way for them to beat the American's in the pacific, they lacked the raw manpower and industrial capacity for it.
@Omar Khurshid I would have to disagree with you there as I believe that the might of the USA military economy would hold on. I do agree that the USA wouldn't be able to hold they pacific island but Japan was struggling in China as well as in Papua new Guinea but hey this is just speculation
@Omar Khurshid I can't remember where (sorry about that) but I remember a sorcue saying by 1946 the US had 36 carriers with that info I think the US could maybe hold out and I would have to disagree when it comes to China I do think the nationalist would of falling but not the communist as that popping up all across the occupied territory of course it was the "useless" lands where it was sparce :note as I'm writing this think changed my mind a little I think China would become another France or Poland with fierce resistance but for territory terms they would be over
From Vietnamese on trees to Americans on-air to Japanese on the seas to Russians In the snow to Muslims on the sands to Europeans not knowing where to go.
Not exactly a dick move but rather a strategic one. You don't give weapons that can be used against you to a possible rival or enemy. Considering what happened afterwards we can say that it was a wise choice. What are the methods of delievery of nuclear warheads nowadays? Among other things, through the launch of misiles that are carried in submarines. The Soviets committed to the delivery of nuclear weapons using ballistic missiles first. The U.S relied on bombers to do the deed. The development of American ICBMs came later and the idea to deploy nuclear weapons from submarines as well. Who's to say that the USSR wouldn't have come up with it first had the U.S caved in to their demands? They would've had a huge headstart considering they developed ICBMs first, and even when they started developing submarine launched missiles like a year after the U.S they managed to beat the Americans to have a successful test with a live nuke. That goes to show that guarding such weapons was vital for both parties before and during the Cold War. So not a dick move
All you need to do is design a drone that can launch from a missile tube. A lot nuclear submarines don’t actually use all their tubes so it would be easy to implement.
Every one says that whenever there's an experimental weapon that never reaches it's fullest potential. In reality it's just that a single weapon like that won't win a war on it's own. Remember how good the british got at dectecting uboats? Yeah that kind of nonsense could've happened and then the I-400s would've had a formidible ememy in the form of anti submarine warfare.
@@ajorsomething4935 *I'm positive no single weapon was ever created to win a war.* *This submarine aircraft carrier wasn't meant to win the war but to destabilize the Japanese enemies, especially America, with surprise attacks.* *US fought WWII from a position of absolute comfort. Not fighting any defensive war at home unlike other countries involved in the war, and simply putting all efforts on attack.* *If these subs had made it to the war on time, the US military efforts would've been divided thus reducing their military outputs to Europe.*
@@theotherside931 Eh it'd be a a problem for costal defence but given just how big the us was and how at it's max at the start of thr project there'd be only be like 60 planes in total at a single time it definitely seems more like a minor annoyance.
The launch time was *_strived_* to be 30 minutes but never achieved. This documentary states the quality of the aircraft was low due to parts shortages, probably due to the USA's blockade and mining of Japan's harbors. BTW, this documentary leaves out the first Japanese planned, but never executed, use of the I-400's: *Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night.* 5 I-400's were to surface off the coast of San Diego. All 15 aircraft were to be loaded with plague contaminated fleas, courtesy *Unit 731* , and were to be dropped on the county. The USA was moving too fast forward for the Japanese to carry out this plan so they switched to attacking the Panama Canal which was also too late to carry out.
This nuke has the means to spread the fire of revolution everywhere around the world ...and completely end the world in definitive and -elegant- manner -Stalin probably
If you like this video, you should look up the Japanese I-25 submarine aircraft carrier, which carried a single plane that completed the only "successful" aerial bombing of the Lower 48 (I put "successful" in quotes because while they did drop a couple bombs in southwest Oregon, the fires were put out pretty quickly without much damage).
I once got some information that leading industrials in Japan had already a deal with the US to lead Japans economy after the war if they let Japan fail in the war. I never had the time to verify that. Information on this one seems scarce. This would explain the quote.
I-400, I-401, I-402 Submarines so Iconic to Japan. An anime was made about one of em, I-401 Mental Model Iona, designation Flag Ship of the Arpeggio of Blue Steel. Granted Takao was also involved well because she's a very famous Heavy Cruiser for ship enthusiasts.
Between superheavy battle ships and submersible aircraft carriers, Japan had some uniquely amazing naval concepts. Imagine redeveloping a carrier division around these.
@@Stefan7067 But with 3 bombs per attack, unless were talking about chemicals that weren't available in that time, or a biological weapon, it would have been a very limited attack. And don't count nuclear devices in that, the technology to have small weapons took decades to be deployed.
Now a days R&D requires years, but in those days during the critical times of Wars they have planned designed implemented and make new ideas and technology. That's awesome.
A lot of people really aren't thinking this through. This weapon is a "counting coup" weapon at best, and even in the beginning of the war most likely ends its service life even more ignobly than most battleships in this era. A few of many flaws in the plan: 1) This is not like modern ultra stealthy nuclear submarines that can stay submerged 6 months. Presuming they could overcome the endurance difficulties (many months of fuel and food) mentioned in this video, it is a diesel, meaning that for most of its cruise it needs to breathe air, hence the cut of the prow for surface operation but inefficient underwater. Even if they invented a workable all-weather snorkel that could let the diesels breathe, it keeps the submarine near the surface, noisy, and visible. 2) If against all odds it makes it to its operation zone undetected, one attack, maybe two, and surprise is over. If they launch without floats, one attack is all they get. One way or another, those aircraft will be lost. Now there's an expensive sub deep in enemy territory that even had it been constructed using the best methods and materials of that era, is still several times more vulnerable due to its size and the now dead mass of the equipment to support the aircraft. Meanwhile every coastie, civil air patrol, reserve unit, and patrol destroyer along the coast has absolutely nothing better to do than to hunt it down, and the sub has no intel to help it evade. If it had the best radar of the day, it would still have to surface to use it. Even if the Americans didn't know they were attacked by a submarine, they know they're looking for something, and have a good estimate of the operational radius they're looking in from the aircraft they were attacked by. A sub running on lead acid batteries just can't stay submerged long enough. 3) Just how much damage can three aircraft, or even 3*18 ships = 54 do? Look at Lt Tomonaga's strike against Midway Is. during the Battle of Midway. 108 attack aircraft, Kates, Vals, and Zeroes that have no compromise in design like draggy pontoons, facing only AAA and largely obsolete cap cover. And it wasn't enough to knock out operations at Midway, a small base on an atoll. And at the cost of 11 planes lost and 14 planes damaged. And that was a successful attack by WW2 standards. If the intended attack profile in the video is accurate, this is the same Samurai-hero-muddy thinking that made the attack on Pearl Harbor seem like a good idea but ultimately a failure both strategically and (arguably) tactically. It assumes you are heroic, quick, and smart, and your enemy is cowardly, slow, and prone to superstition. It is a far more expensive Doolittle-style raid that in the end would serve no purpose in the era of industrial capacity warfare. The best this sub could achieve is surprise special operations during a larger battle, and that unlikely with the design difficulties, just like the micro submarines that Japan used that really didn't accomplish much. Those who are correlating it to modern SLBM/cruise missile nuclear warfare are seriously overestimating the capabilities of the technology of the time.
Bravo. The first comparison I thought of was the Doolittle raid. Which accomplished just as much-or more-than the proposed fleet could have accomplished while using a normal aircraft carrier and modified versions of pre-existing bombers. I think a lot of people are also discounting how poor navigation was back in the days before GPS. Even in peacetime, pilots often got lost. Expecting the launched planes to return to their sub, by dead reckoning on an open ocean, was expecting a minor miracle.
Pearl harbor attack WAS a good idea IF they didn't fuck up the timing and attacked when the main pacific fleet was there. But, it was a bad idea as there was no plan B and plan A would've relied mostly on dumb luck and wishful thinking. The Doolittle-style raid had a profound effect on Japanese operations in the Pacific and is a great example of how a small force can shit on the entire war plans of an entire country. Obviously, the losses/damages were trivial at best but the psychological damage on the populace and hence the war effort, was profound. resources and personnel that would've otherwise been used elsewhere had to be diverted back to the mainland in preparation for another attack and appease the populace.
@@nannerrammer I doubt there really could have been a plan B, other than not attacking at all. Even had they caught the carriers, this victory would have been temporary at best. There's simply no way they could have simultaneously fought on four fronts: continuing fighting in the south Pacific/Australia, continuing fighting in China, consolidating and securing gains in southeast Asia and Indonesia, and fighting on the US west coast. Fighting across the Cascades and Sierra Nevadas would have been a terrible slog even if (and I wouldn't bet on it) the entire coast fell, as well as having to secure the Panama Canal (or render unusable, since their ships weren't designed for it). They may even having to secure the Straits of Magellan, or at least set up the Argentinians to attack US ships skirting the coast. There would never be a point where all the 16 or so shipyards on the east coast were ever in real danger from more than raids by sea. Heck, they were even building destroyers in Colorado, then sending them by train to the Gulf. The real pain arguably would be the complete loss of all the B-17 manufacturing facilities, leaving only B-24s. Also, to be clear, it was my point that these submarines could not have had the same effect the Doolittle raid did, By that time US war production was so high that relatively trivial amounts of resources would have been redirected to the US coast, there wouldn't have been a desperate rethink like there was in Japan, and the news would have had little effect in Japan as B-29s kept up daily firebombings. Interesting bit of trivia: calculating land area devastated by bombing in Japan, the atomic bombs accounted for only 2%.
Should also be noted that there were already Japanese submarines that could carry airplanes such as the Type B1, and one of them did manage to launch an airstrike on US soil; in 1942, I-25 launched two airstrikes in an attempt to firebomb forests on the American west coast, striking off the coast of Oregon as well as shelling a coastal fort. Ultimately these attacks were insignificant and did virtually no damage, but it proved that such attacks were at least possible and that, conceptually, it was doable.
@@zidniafifamani2378 Eh, that might be more relevant now, but back in the 40's not as much. Climate wasn't as dry & hot, & population was much lower than it is today. But even today, doubt very many militaries would much commit time & resources to sending a few planes to bomb trees over strategic military targets
@@jinatlas8674 And make it even more stupid and ineffective? I say go right ahead. You realise that making something bigger doesn't make it more cost-effective, right? It tends to do the opposite. Also, the Soviets didn't stupidly enlarge their technology. That was the Germans. The clickbait 'massive Soviet tech' videos were all small experiments.
@@olivernorth7418 I don't think so. I feel that the Soviets would do anything to try to keep up to the US by improving it by a ton. Thank god they did not find this.
@@Mdmdnnskaojcnnrjwiaopx How would they 'improve it a ton'? If the Soviets would have been able to improve the design enough to be able to rival the US navy with a tiny number of these subs, they should have been able to design significantly better tanks, planes and guns than the US in our timeline. They weren't able to, so I have no idea why you think that they had the capability turn this crappy boat into an effective weapon.
We the Japanese Navy could point it at your China's vessels and deep ocean of submarine, in and out of the earth already! Just wait for the command and.....
Visakh R because it’s better to nuke a few cities with hundreds of thousands dead than to burn a whole country with millions dead, and if you don’t think that just look at the example in Germany.
To be honest, the Americans would’ve considered a cripple wielding a stick a danger. I-400 was a very bad idea, but considering the context, it was for the better, it diverted Japanese ressources from other more critical areas to a project that even if completed, would’ve still been a farce. 15 subs with 3 planes, no means of resupplying in the middle of the ocean? That’s a one trick pony. And even if they would’ve managed to launch one attack with all 45 planes, the damage would’ve been minimal. After the shock, the Americans would double sea patrols and hunt down all these lumbering subs, riveted, so once they were located it was game over. A complete joke.
Yeah, the purpose it was made was for a surprise attack, so once it's known, it would become a complete joke. It's just a waste of materials, they should've just find another way of keeping the americans off the pacific or just focused on stabilizing their conquered territories and proceeded to conquer more once they've stabilized themselves. Look at where their poor decision-making led them, 2 cities just got bombed and a lot of lives were lost, the disadvantages far outweighed the advantages. Would've been badass to see Japan becoming a superpower, maybe they'd make gundams, lmao.
pretty juvenile and arrogant to assume that not one person in the Japanese army managed to realize these issues that is so apparent to RUclips viewers lol. This was the 40s. A movable, undetectable base, even with only 3 bombers, that can submerge itself under water was definitely a threat. There is a reason why there was so much interest for the engineering/design of these things way past the war as well. 'The damage would've been minimal', patently false. 40 (54 theoretically) surprise bombers (with plausible ability to return base) can very easily change the course of war. Gunpower matters way lesser than planning and execution when the countries are eons apart with no apparent warfront/trenches/embargo. This wasn't a traditional conflict (still isn't) from a technical pov
Well this is why you aren't an Admiral. If Japan had even a quarter of the resources America did, Japan would have done a full scale attack with the I-400 class in a heartbeat. They could level New York City in one go with only 45 planes strapped with bombs, it would have been devastating. Factories completely disabled. US fleets would have to be spread thin after even one surprise attack, allowing for a smaller fleet in the Pacific.
@@user-pn3im5sm7k 1. Going straight for New York would have been pretty stupid as it is on the other side of a continent the other side of an ocean 2. No matter how many planes carrying such a small amount of bombs, they wouldnt be able to realistically bomb the US industrial power, even if they had a good reconnaisance of the plants. 3. AA guns, ships and the american airforce would make a good work for whatever flying thing made its way to such an important 4. The US also had the numbers, as even 100s of those submarines wouldnt be able to stop the ginormous amount of vessels the US had and could build at the time
Mustard in the near future: *here we found lost documents and blueprints for a bipedal AT-GT(All Terrain Ground Transport) designed by the imperial 4rth Reich led by the tyrannical emperor Rudolf whose uprising has been cancelled due to snow...*
Interestingly, the only attacks on the US mainland during WWII were from a Japanese submarine (I-25) and a float-plane it kept disassembled in it's conning tower. The submarine shelled FT. Stevens in Oregon in June 1942 and the plane dropped incendiary bombs near a couple of small Oregon towns in September the same year. No significant damage was done.
It did, however, cause a panic among air defenses in America that led to the Battle of Los Angeles incident, which due to misinformation has been immortalized as an example of UFO identification.
Arioch IV No, because it would have neglected to describe their secondary role as torpedo aircraft. Everyone with any kind of insight into WWII naval air warfare understood what he was talking about.
Thanks NEBULA I'm a retired 66 yo male this is the first time I heard this you have a new follower great story KUDOS JAPAN however even if JAPAN had this great weapon the PROBLEMS you DESCRIBED were INSURMOUNTABLE & BTW AUGUST 9th 1945 that's the day it didn't matter anymore!! 🙏I PRAY to our LORD THAT THIS BOMB IS NEVER EVER USED AGAIN IN OUR FUTURE🙏??
Tamamoto: "This plan could keep the Americans out of this, we could even get a truce with them." 4 years later: *A 5 ton bomb is falling out of the sky*
@faasd fer Not really, US opinions of Japan could not have been any lower anyway, and those pinpricks would not have made any difference militarily. It would tie up some air patrol resources, but once radar was out and about these huge ships would be sitting ducks.
Interestingly, I’d say this concept is not as crazy now as it was in WW2. Imagine a submarine sneaking into enemy territory undetected and deploying 10 F35s and F22s less than a mile from shore. The enemy would likely not have time to scramble interceptor sorties, if they even detected the jets at all. On paper, it’s not insane
"The element of surprise was the submarines main advantage". I would argue that its the ONLY advantage this thing has. Here are its downsides, that this doc fails to mention: 1. The seaplane torpedo bombers dont function as well as carrier based bombers (because the pontoons are heavy) 2. Its big and heavy, making it an easier target for bombers - remember the biggest killer of german subs in WW2 was aircraft! 3. Does being big and heavy make it better at being a torpedo sub? No. Its slower and easier to spot. Takes longer to submerge, easier to hit with depth charges, moves slower. Why even bother putting torpedo tubes on this thing? A destroyer would beat it in a fight either way. 4. All of that heavy armament! By the time germany was losing the war, they realized subs perform better without any heavy armament on the hull. It just slows the boat down and subs dont make good firing platforms (they rock and roll with the waves too much, unlike surface ships). The germans removed all of the heavy guns from their subs by the end of the war. 5. Are 3 torpedo bombers REALLY that good? Carriers like the Akage held 66 (+25 fighters/bombers in reserve). You would be unable to do anything with 3, slowed down pontoon bombers. There is a reason NO OTHER MILITARY EVER went with this design. It was real cool, ill give it that...but useless.
yup. pretty much this. imo you need to go bigger to have usable planes. (no pontoons, more planes) but then you lose more the advantage of the whole sub thing. I think just having aircraft carriers is the way to go.
I think point 4 is kinda addressed by the fact they already had a double hull to specifically prevent rocking and rolling as much to assist aircraft launch, and the guns wouldn't slow down a sub of that size by a large proportion. Agree on all the rest though.
The only way I could see this concept working is to take a full regular carrier and make it submersible somehow Something like this really needs the benefits of scaling up, and probably also a nuclear reactor too
The point of these weren’t to be in active war zones. As you saw they were for sneak attacks on the coasts of the US where there wasn’t even any battles happening. Especially attacking the eastern seaboard would have been the last thing the US expected from Japan. If all 18 were used and 9 for each coast thats 27 bombers to attack an unexpecting city. Then they go back and do it again somewhere else on the coast that’s unexpected. Also these submarines have way more defenses from air attacks than the German u boats
It should be noted - The I-400 did not have a functional underwater toilet, no refrigeration unit and so little space for the crew, members were forced to sleep in corridors. Because of the island, the ship always had to steer 7* to SB in order to go straight and the turning radius was much larger to starboard than to port It did however have a relatively high cruising speed of 14kn/h compared to the usually 10 for subs at the time. Imagine sailing 30.000nm in those conditions.
Being Japanese, I never knew how reckless the Imperial Japanese Armed forces were in the second world war. Watching your videos has informed me so much, thank you! 🇯🇵
We demand japanese to remember their atoricies But when "Ai Kayano" wanna respect her ancestor from ww2 why everyone get pissed off ? History is fking history No matter how much it didnt align with our self interest We cant deny their past Anyone who been in combat would know "good & evil" is just humanity propaganda against each other While the victor decide, what to ignored/stay in history BOOKS just how we busy with WMD in middle east, while African in havoc why soldier abide the rule ? despite knowing they being pawned against their common sense? They do have option, but world is not simple as A B C, Btw my country also invaded by japanese back then, and i been brainwashed to hate them at first After join reservist, it should make me more patriotic right ? those my old days, I am not being fk up badly enough yet, just got peek of it but reality is not same as what history tell me, luckily it enough for me to realize, No matter how much war crime other did, they still a human, like everyone No matter how much justice i preach, im still a human like everyone All human only care when it align with their interest Alturism just a way to comfort our own guilty we just a bunch of fool on fking floating rock called "Earth" What worse than thing i mention above despite all thing already been told Humanity just gonna blame it on other Or point someone else fault, when they running out of option
With modern technology this concept could be far more viable. F-35B fighters can launch from an incredibly short runway and land vertically. The sub would have to be enormous, probably in the ballpark of 800 feet long with a displacement of over 35,000 tons, but submarines of a similar size have been proven to be successful. Being able to conduct an airstrike or provide air support independent of a carrier strike group could be a game-changer.
At this point, they could bite the bullet and build them enormous, with facilities and means to operate in complete isolation from supply lines on board Like proto-spaceships
History Channel needs to watch these and remember what they're about
Another Hitler alien mermaid game show special coming right up
This was on History Channel back in the day, when they had good documentaries.
"Who taught the Japanese to build such a craft? Aliens."
drby0788 history Chanel at night is just blaming any human advancement on aliensALIENS
Pity the idea has been taken from other RUclips channels that have covered it all before. Easy to do your research when others have already done it.
I love the footage of the Americans walking around the sub, basically going “the frick is this?”
You mean fuck
dunno why, we brit's had one.....turns out you should always make sure the hanger doors are shut before diving
@@TominatorGaming the royal navy had 1 M class sub converted to a sub aircraft carrier and it sank in 1932 in all likely hood most of the us navy won't have know about HMS M2. Also M2 was 90 meters long with a beam of 8 meters and displaced 1600 ton on the surface the the i-400 subs where 122 meters long with a beam of 12 meters and displaced 6560 tons. No one was really amazed that they could launch aircraft the USN evan experimented with that. The colossal for size for that time is what surprised most.
I like the idea that they were walking around confused until one dude found his way into the hangar and was just like “oh shit, hey guys!”
The admiral realized what it was and was like, literally, "God damn it". I read his lips.
8:25 "it took nearly a year to design [I-400]."
When you look at what it was supposed to do, it's surprisingly fast!
Meanwhile Kendrick can't even release an album in four years
@@BruiserBrad meanwhile call of duty cant even make a good game in 6 years
@@oerlikon20mm29 Activision*
Laughs in Bradley IFV and F-35 Fighters.
Laughs in cyberpunk
Soviets: "May I take a look at the submarine?"
Americans: "no" *proceeds to blow up sub
"What submarine?"
*scuttling charges going off*
@airlockengage Lmao
America: If i cant get it no one will
@@That_Soviet_Memer Er... America had it. Lol. More like, America wasn't going to hand the USSR a way to sneak planes right up to the American coastline.
@@jeffmorris5802 I'd go more sligned with comment of Mark. Just check MIR-1 and MIR-2 out as well. And why the production and development got halted
I really wish one of these were preserved, truly one of a kind
Same. If it had been me, I would have scuttled only two of the subs and a mock-up, and then stored the last one in a secret facility, to see if its technology could be refined, improved, and utilized, and then, when we determined it was safe, donated it to a museum.
Who said their isn't some preserved? ;)
Stuff like this is cocaine for american generals and military scientists, one way or another they did get a full model and kept it in a secret facility.
Ofcourse stuff like that isn't supposed to be known to the public. America has alot of tricks up its sleeves and has hundreds of secret weapons of war
Don't need the whole ship to understand the concept and then go about building one
Americans: naaah its not ours lets wreck it
I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if the us was secretly building an alicorn or two
0:55 that shot is so beautiful I want it as a background
I back that
We need that
1:49 way better before the text in my opinion
Put your playback speed to .25 and at around 50 secs the shot you want has no text
Matthew Noud or just pause it and screenshot
imagine just vibeing on a beach then seeing a bunch of planes launch out of the water
If we take a look at this Tech, with the current Drone tech available, this is a VERY good weapon.
CT-Buzzer CT vibing
@Epinephrine He's making a joke since a spacecraft carrier would be much more intimidating and that Gundam is a brand in Japan would make a very Hilarious and terrifying scene. I might be wrong unless night parade explains it himself 😅
If you think this is cool you should see the Aircraft Carrier zeppelins the US navy had. Just imagine a giant balloon looking thing in the sky launching and picking up aircraft.
Epinephrine “Then the WEEB NATION attacked”
This concept is quite brilliant. Imaine the bombers replaced with unmanned drones with jet engine. They could literally deploy these drones in a matter of minutes and disappear into the sea and simply never engage directly. Wouldnt need a huge fleet like carriers since they can just hide underwater and get out before things heat up
thats just a nuclear sub
we have those now, they’re called ballistic missile submarines
You just described the Alicorn from Ace Combat
@@Overneed-Belkan-Witch yeah now it needs the 600 meter rail cannon
@@iancrowley420
That’s not the same thing. SSBNs are not intended to be used for conventional warfare nor expected to recover their aircraft/weapon carriers after they finish their missions.
Instead they’re used for Nuclear Deterrence.
Everybody gangsta till the water starts launching planes
Everybody gangsta till the ocean starts speaking Japanese
IDIOT
STUPID
*NO U*
Lol
World of Warships community:
"I fear no man... but that thing..."
*Carrier submarines*
"... it scares me."
Though. I think its not really that overpowered considering it doesn't have large amount of planes and also really fragile
well... WoWS already screwed up the carrier flight controls, so not a big deal when you only have 3 planes that need to be launched separately.
Well last year in warthunder April Fools event we got nuclear attack sub that fires active sonar torpedo.
許進曾 yeah... tho it was quite boring being underwater dodging guided torpedoes
*Edward Chan* It would be better IF the guns and catapult are removed, it would carry *7 Aircraft* .
Mustard pulling out top quality content as always.
Nice
Indeed
His content is basically history channel level.
ruination126 nah, better than the history channel
Man I wan too pay for weekly episodes of this quality.
I had no idea something like this ever existed. They seemed really cool honestly!
The idea is incredibly impractical. But darned if it isn't awesome just the same.
@@Emptybee That sums up a lot of WWII technology. Probably a big part of why it’s such a popular setting for games and movies
@@Emptybeewhat if we made a new one?. Probably that would be larger than the typhoon class submarine from Russia
@@belmarkestrellanes8188 Nowadays? It's a bit less impractical. At least modern planes could have GPS to locate the carrier and use jump jets to take off and land.
I'm sure there's still some reason no one has built one though. Crush depth springs immediately to mind. Hard to mate a pressure hull with an aircraft hanger.
The idea is impractical, but it may have served as a basis for nuclear submarines
Ace Combat has shown me that Submarine Aircraft Carriers can be a real sight to behold
Would you say that ace combat 7 is worth getting for a newbie (like me) who has never touched an AC game
@@sleepylion9511 if you like them games then yes because its great
@@georgetomlinson9922 alright thanks now I have something to do in lock down.
@@sleepylion9511 The story took me 10 hours to complete and my god... It's amazing
*loud Latin choir noises
Soviets: Hey, can we see the Japanese carrier subs?
Americans: Carrier subs? I don't remember seeing any.
Edit: wth going on down there
Yea, nobody trusted the Soviets.
@@DirectorBird i wonder why
You can see them under water, sunk!
@@saturn5mtw567 They never do. They(USA, British) are forced to work with Soviet because there is common enemy(The Axis). Once the common enemy is gone(ww2 ended), the reason for cooperation gone with it.
@@leontam221 as churchill once said "there are no friends of the british empire, just common interest."
I already know this gonna be good
It's always good
So do I, I watched it on Nebula.
Agree dude
It’s Mustard it’s always good that’s just how it works
Proper English please
"War is not often kind to the side with fewer weapons." - Tex Talks Battletech
Unless you’re British… 😅
I do love me some Tex...and Battletech
Japan: _"So Germany, we blew up a harbor, and the US is in the war now."_
Germany: *"YOU WHAT?"*
Germany: "BRILLIANT! We'll declare war on them. That'll finish them!"
hole WW2 was a big scam 2,5 superpowers (US,Russia,GB) vs 1 little 80mio people land.
Yes japan and italy where alies, but the list of Allies of US is a long list.
When you take Manpower,Resources and aviable land space into concideration its even a bigger scam like odds above > 20:vs 1
@ET Hardcorgamer Lmao
america is already in the war before they attack pearl harbor
Japan forced the US to declare on them, Germany could have done nothing, there was no part of the tripartite pact that said Germany would have to declare war on Japans enemies, instead Hitler and Germany *CHOSE* to join Japan in the war
The trees: start speaking Vietnamese
The sky: Starts singing fortunate son
The snow: Starts speaking Finnish
The Sea: Starts speaking Japanese
I don't know, I always thought the skies sung Flight of the Valkyries.
That Meme nah Fortunate Son is more *AMERICAN*
@@risk5485 ok kid
Hi, veitnamese but born in the u.s, I'm Dad!
Sea is speaking scrap- that’s what was left of Japanese naval fleet.
What’s next? Flying submarines?
Japan: heheh
It will not going to be called submarines if it was flying, we need good name that suitable
Tricarrier?
An evolution of the propeller plane could approach that idea.
@@youwantmyname9208 idk maybe humans can create something like that. I already thought of a name for it......
AIRPLANES
How about invisible submarine..invisible warship..invisible aircraft and attack helicopter or invisible nukes..invisible on everything
Japan: designing a gigantic submarine aircraft carrier.
The US: Figuring out how to drop a miniature sun on japan
The sun (like other stars) is a hydrogen fusion reactor; the bombs which the USA used to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians were uranium fission devices.
he he he oh bowy
Last time I was this early the DC10 was still safe.
So when it wasn't in production or after they fixed the problems?
@Razi Aftab don't quit your day job dude, time for some new material
So you’ve never been this early?
The DC10 type have a safety record a like other planes of the era even with the cargo door disaster counted in...
Hilarious and original
US: Man what an interesting piece of engineering, this would be bad if it got in the wrong han-
Soviet Union: Hey Hey!
i love that i get this reference
Wouldn't matter though cuz the soviets made their own nuclear subs.
Finally a fellow man of culture
@@livethefuture2492 implyong the japanese had nuclear subs
HEY HEYY, A ME RI KA-KUN !
Plot twist: They were actually designed to launch gundams
Now I hate you
Ah shit, ahahahaa
Carries 6 Mobile suits
Zaku's would make more sense
nostalgic
The boat ride getting called off when Japan surrendered must have been a relief for that crew. Would make a great movie or documentary. The Last Tour-I Should Be Dead 😂
Engineer: What do you want? Aircraft Carrier or Submarine?
Yamamoto: YES!
Engineer n commander did some smoochy smoochity?
For those that are interested, these submarines play a large role in the animated alternative series (as well as novel & 90s games) konpeki no kantai (紺碧の艦隊）、which is still untranslated due to its notoriety; wherein Japan is able to win the war by bringing an expanded fleet of I-400 type machines to bear. It's absolutely a power fantasy, but interesting if only for that reason.
Ironically while that would have helped, Japan would have still lost the war no matter what they did. Simply put there was no way for them to beat the American's in the pacific, they lacked the raw manpower and industrial capacity for it.
Hey is it notoriety
@Omar Khurshid I would have to disagree with you there as I believe that the might of the USA military economy would hold on. I do agree that the USA wouldn't be able to hold they pacific island but Japan was struggling in China as well as in Papua new Guinea but hey this is just speculation
@Omar Khurshid I can't remember where (sorry about that) but I remember a sorcue saying by 1946 the US had 36 carriers with that info I think the US could maybe hold out and I would have to disagree when it comes to China I do think the nationalist would of falling but not the communist as that popping up all across the occupied territory of course it was the "useless" lands where it was sparce
:note as I'm writing this think changed my mind a little
I think China would become another France or Poland with fierce resistance but for territory terms they would be over
@Omar Khurshid I'm gonna say something never said on the internet
You have changed my mind I agree
Japan: Good thing they didn't find the submarines with the Gundam yet.
Or the lolicon
Good thing they didnt find the giant shapeshifting samurai robots yet
(Red Alert 3 reference)
Good they haven't found the space battleship Yamato
Date Masamune, that’s just as well, Amaro still hasn’t grown up.
its called the 'mad angler' right? at least the zeon one in 0079
So this was the inspiration for the Alicorn-Class submersible aviation cruiser
A MILLION LIVES
@@galmlrssg210 CRISP WHITE SHEETS
History Channel: "Is tHiS the WoRK of A TIMe TrAVellINg PeRSon OR dId aliEns Give THe enGINEers tHe IdeA oN how tO MAKe it?"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
And don't forget the horrendous background music.
true, youtube channels are better than high budget tv shows nowadays
Noob the fonts look retarded like like your comment
General kenobi
Hammerschlägen M shut the f up
When I was watching this video, I couldnt help thinking: That is perfection
Everyone's a gangsta until ocean starts speaking Japanese.
*Every gangsta till the ocean starts speaking japanese
Banzai!!
From Vietnamese on trees to Americans on-air to Japanese on the seas to Russians In the snow to Muslims on the sands to Europeans not knowing where to go.
@@skxrblx383 your both dum
Bruh y'all suck at making memes
Plot: Hydra bought one of those to develop their flying air carrier.
that could actually fit well in the MCU. After all, hydra's been there for a long time
how the cold war started: soviet didn't get to see the sub
thats alot likes tysm
The tactical nuke subs were descendants of the aircraft carrier sub. In a way the Soviets have the sub.
U9
Not true
russia give us the fucking subz!
Well. I can see the Alicorn from Ace Combat wasn't entirely fictional.
S A L V A T I O N
@@megajeremy90001 HAHAHAHA, IMAGINE! TEN MILLION LIVES FOR JUST A MILLION
@@ninjastreet5 crisp white sheets
10 MILLION PEOPLE
@@rat7464 Something something CRISP WHITE SHEETS something
last time I was this early the
Buran-Energia was still flying
When I was this early the Bear Bomber was still in development.
it takes a long time to make these videos, give him some credit for not sacrificing quality over quantity :)
Ha
America: Dang, this is a fascinating submarine!
USSR: Let us see!
America: _destroys_ What submarine?
Pretty stupid and shameful what the US did
@@sovetskyskaiyastrigon1750 didn’t need the soviets catching us 🇺🇸
dick move from US lmao
"Its good but its not ours so lets destroy them"
Not exactly a dick move but rather a strategic one. You don't give weapons that can be used against you to a possible rival or enemy. Considering what happened afterwards we can say that it was a wise choice. What are the methods of delievery of nuclear warheads nowadays? Among other things, through the launch of misiles that are carried in submarines. The Soviets committed to the delivery of nuclear weapons using ballistic missiles first. The U.S relied on bombers to do the deed. The development of American ICBMs came later and the idea to deploy nuclear weapons from submarines as well. Who's to say that the USSR wouldn't have come up with it first had the U.S caved in to their demands? They would've had a huge headstart considering they developed ICBMs first, and even when they started developing submarine launched missiles like a year after the U.S they managed to beat the Americans to have a successful test with a live nuke. That goes to show that guarding such weapons was vital for both parties before and during the Cold War. So not a dick move
2040: Fighter Drone Carrier Subs.
You heard it here first.
Yes u genius
Ha! More like 2022 subs they almost already have them
There will be made within 10 years
I mean Americans already got the x-47b, kinda. Naval as well
All you need to do is design a drone that can launch from a missile tube. A lot nuclear submarines don’t actually use all their tubes so it would be easy to implement.
*The only failure here was the timing. This was a great weapon and would've made a lot of difference.*
*Plus the 30 minutes launch time.*
Every one says that whenever there's an experimental weapon that never reaches it's fullest potential. In reality it's just that a single weapon like that won't win a war on it's own. Remember how good the british got at dectecting uboats? Yeah that kind of nonsense could've happened and then the I-400s would've had a formidible ememy in the form of anti submarine warfare.
@@ajorsomething4935 *I'm positive no single weapon was ever created to win a war.*
*This submarine aircraft carrier wasn't meant to win the war but to destabilize the Japanese enemies, especially America, with surprise attacks.*
*US fought WWII from a position of absolute comfort. Not fighting any defensive war at home unlike other countries involved in the war, and simply putting all efforts on attack.*
*If these subs had made it to the war on time, the US military efforts would've been divided thus reducing their military outputs to Europe.*
@@theotherside931 Eh it'd be a a problem for costal defence but given just how big the us was and how at it's max at the start of thr project there'd be only be like 60 planes in total at a single time it definitely seems more like a minor annoyance.
The launch time was *_strived_* to be 30 minutes but never achieved. This documentary states the quality of the aircraft was low due to parts shortages, probably due to the USA's blockade and mining of Japan's harbors. BTW, this documentary leaves out the first Japanese planned, but never executed, use of the I-400's: *Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night.* 5 I-400's were to surface off the coast of San Diego. All 15 aircraft were to be loaded with plague contaminated fleas, courtesy *Unit 731* , and were to be dropped on the county. The USA was moving too fast forward for the Japanese to carry out this plan so they switched to attacking the Panama Canal which was also too late to carry out.
All the subs would have been sunk.
This boat has the means to end this hideous war, in a definitive and elegant manner.
- Imperial Japan, probably
SALVATION
-Yamamoto, maybe
These bombs have the means to end this hideous war, in an absolute manner.
-America, probably.
The Plague Bombs could be worse than Atomic Bomb (I'm not sure). It would infect more people to get sick.
This nuke has the means to spread the fire of revolution everywhere around the world
...and completely end the world in definitive and -elegant- manner
-Stalin probably
Torres, in Japanese dub, basically
If you like this video, you should look up the Japanese I-25 submarine aircraft carrier, which carried a single plane that completed the only "successful" aerial bombing of the Lower 48 (I put "successful" in quotes because while they did drop a couple bombs in southwest Oregon, the fires were put out pretty quickly without much damage).
The legend has uploaded once again.
All hail das legend.
Pity the idea has been taken from other RUclips channels that have covered it all before. Easy to do your research when others have already done it.
@@xr6lad This channel brings plenty of unque content to the table and no one else is creating CGI like Mustard
xr6lad no one really does it this high quality though
It's a requiem
Set off as soon as we're ready
SALVATION
This boat has the means to end this hideous war, in a definitive and elegant manner
there it is
There goes the crisp white bedsheets
SO USE YOUR IMAGINATION, MY FELLOW SUBMARINERS!
Admiral Yamamoto: “I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant.”
Godzilla?
@@ShinGojira54 american industrial might is far more scary than godzilla
Yes, very scary
@@ShinGojira54 Technically, yeah. Godzilla absorbed radiation and mutated.
I once got some information that leading industrials in Japan had already a deal with the US
to lead Japans economy after the war if they let Japan fail in the war.
I never had the time to verify that. Information on this one seems scarce.
This would explain the quote.
The illustrations and animations on Mustard just keep getting better and better. Nice job!
I-400, I-401, I-402 Submarines so Iconic to Japan. An anime was made about one of em, I-401 Mental Model Iona, designation Flag Ship of the Arpeggio of Blue Steel. Granted Takao was also involved well because she's a very famous Heavy Cruiser for ship enthusiasts.
SAVIOR OF SONG
❤️
I agree also they made the yamato as a supreme flagship of fleet of fog
I loved that anime, including the transformation of ships I the Fog fleet
Like a Hotdog in New York: *I need more Mustard*
Well played....
Well played
+1 pun points
"Can we get a SLBM?"
"We have SLBM at home."
SLBM at home:
Between superheavy battle ships and submersible aircraft carriers, Japan had some uniquely amazing naval concepts. Imagine redeveloping a carrier division around these.
I’m still trying to find out why this channel is named Mustard...
Yea,its named mustard should be cooking channel but instead a history channel.
well its just a name isnt it? why is pewdiepie called pewdiepie? its just a name
Mustard Gas
Mustard as in mustard seed being small
mustard is a slang term for "really good" - that might have something to do with the thinking behind it.
Belkan's navy be like : *WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!*
I love ace combat
Ave Belka!!!
More like the yukes
Scinfaxi and hrimfaxi dudes.
Mattias Torres wants to know your location
Launching Torpedoes against a city seems like a flawed tactic
Especially carrying just one torpedo!
they planed to load some chemical stuff on the planes
Did you not hear the part where he talked about bombs? Also torpedos can be deadly launched against shipyards and docked ships.
@@Stefan7067 But with 3 bombs per attack, unless were talking about chemicals that weren't available in that time, or a biological weapon, it would have been a very limited attack. And don't count nuclear devices in that, the technology to have small weapons took decades to be deployed.
@@EduardoEscarez It is true that the whole project was too ambitious at the time, but it was surely a precursor to the modern missile submarines.
Now a days R&D requires years, but in those days during the critical times of Wars they have planned designed implemented and make new ideas and technology. That's awesome.
You would be surprised what can be done when you change up the manufacturing method
Somewhere, a crisp white sheet of some admiral's bed is getting ruined.
This boat has the means to end this hideous war, in a definitive and elegant manner.
SALVATION!
Can't you see, Three Strikes!
*< < S A L V A T I O N ! > >*
And in the end his boat gets split in half and exploded underwater
Mustard is one of my absolute favorite channels. The videos on here are so incredibly high quality that it's unbelievable.
This channel is the literal definition of quality over quantity
Ahoy is another good example of quality over quantity.
the Japanese ZERO had Paper wings and Tail.
A lot of people really aren't thinking this through. This weapon is a "counting coup" weapon at best, and even in the beginning of the war most likely ends its service life even more ignobly than most battleships in this era. A few of many flaws in the plan:
1) This is not like modern ultra stealthy nuclear submarines that can stay submerged 6 months. Presuming they could overcome the endurance difficulties (many months of fuel and food) mentioned in this video, it is a diesel, meaning that for most of its cruise it needs to breathe air, hence the cut of the prow for surface operation but inefficient underwater. Even if they invented a workable all-weather snorkel that could let the diesels breathe, it keeps the submarine near the surface, noisy, and visible.
2) If against all odds it makes it to its operation zone undetected, one attack, maybe two, and surprise is over. If they launch without floats, one attack is all they get. One way or another, those aircraft will be lost. Now there's an expensive sub deep in enemy territory that even had it been constructed using the best methods and materials of that era, is still several times more vulnerable due to its size and the now dead mass of the equipment to support the aircraft. Meanwhile every coastie, civil air patrol, reserve unit, and patrol destroyer along the coast has absolutely nothing better to do than to hunt it down, and the sub has no intel to help it evade. If it had the best radar of the day, it would still have to surface to use it. Even if the Americans didn't know they were attacked by a submarine, they know they're looking for something, and have a good estimate of the operational radius they're looking in from the aircraft they were attacked by. A sub running on lead acid batteries just can't stay submerged long enough.
3) Just how much damage can three aircraft, or even 3*18 ships = 54 do? Look at Lt Tomonaga's strike against Midway Is. during the Battle of Midway. 108 attack aircraft, Kates, Vals, and Zeroes that have no compromise in design like draggy pontoons, facing only AAA and largely obsolete cap cover. And it wasn't enough to knock out operations at Midway, a small base on an atoll. And at the cost of 11 planes lost and 14 planes damaged. And that was a successful attack by WW2 standards.
If the intended attack profile in the video is accurate, this is the same Samurai-hero-muddy thinking that made the attack on Pearl Harbor seem like a good idea but ultimately a failure both strategically and (arguably) tactically. It assumes you are heroic, quick, and smart, and your enemy is cowardly, slow, and prone to superstition. It is a far more expensive Doolittle-style raid that in the end would serve no purpose in the era of industrial capacity warfare. The best this sub could achieve is surprise special operations during a larger battle, and that unlikely with the design difficulties, just like the micro submarines that Japan used that really didn't accomplish much. Those who are correlating it to modern SLBM/cruise missile nuclear warfare are seriously overestimating the capabilities of the technology of the time.
Bravo. The first comparison I thought of was the Doolittle raid. Which accomplished just as much-or more-than the proposed fleet could have accomplished while using a normal aircraft carrier and modified versions of pre-existing bombers.
I think a lot of people are also discounting how poor navigation was back in the days before GPS. Even in peacetime, pilots often got lost. Expecting the launched planes to return to their sub, by dead reckoning on an open ocean, was expecting a minor miracle.
the bombers dont carry bombs, the Japs are planning to have them equipped with fucking Bubonic Plague and other nasty Bioweapons they developed
Very good points!
Pearl harbor attack WAS a good idea IF they didn't fuck up the timing and attacked when the main pacific fleet was there. But, it was a bad idea as there was no plan B and plan A would've relied mostly on dumb luck and wishful thinking.
The Doolittle-style raid had a profound effect on Japanese operations in the Pacific and is a great example of how a small force can shit on the entire war plans of an entire country. Obviously, the losses/damages were trivial at best but the psychological damage on the populace and hence the war effort, was profound. resources and personnel that would've otherwise been used elsewhere had to be diverted back to the mainland in preparation for another attack and appease the populace.
@@nannerrammer I doubt there really could have been a plan B, other than not attacking at all. Even had they caught the carriers, this victory would have been temporary at best. There's simply no way they could have simultaneously fought on four fronts: continuing fighting in the south Pacific/Australia, continuing fighting in China, consolidating and securing gains in southeast Asia and Indonesia, and fighting on the US west coast. Fighting across the Cascades and Sierra Nevadas would have been a terrible slog even if (and I wouldn't bet on it) the entire coast fell, as well as having to secure the Panama Canal (or render unusable, since their ships weren't designed for it). They may even having to secure the Straits of Magellan, or at least set up the Argentinians to attack US ships skirting the coast. There would never be a point where all the 16 or so shipyards on the east coast were ever in real danger from more than raids by sea. Heck, they were even building destroyers in Colorado, then sending them by train to the Gulf. The real pain arguably would be the complete loss of all the B-17 manufacturing facilities, leaving only B-24s.
Also, to be clear, it was my point that these submarines could not have had the same effect the Doolittle raid did, By that time US war production was so high that relatively trivial amounts of resources would have been redirected to the US coast, there wouldn't have been a desperate rethink like there was in Japan, and the news would have had little effect in Japan as B-29s kept up daily firebombings. Interesting bit of trivia: calculating land area devastated by bombing in Japan, the atomic bombs accounted for only 2%.
I'm a simple man
I see mustard, I click
Two uploads in less than two months! You’re on fire man :D
*quarantine, he's in quarantine
We all are
@@SomewhatSummarized sty safe
Should also be noted that there were already Japanese submarines that could carry airplanes such as the Type B1, and one of them did manage to launch an airstrike on US soil; in 1942, I-25 launched two airstrikes in an attempt to firebomb forests on the American west coast, striking off the coast of Oregon as well as shelling a coastal fort. Ultimately these attacks were insignificant and did virtually no damage, but it proved that such attacks were at least possible and that, conceptually, it was doable.
🤣well sure... if you want to spend all that fuel & resources to cross the Pacific, just to blow up some trees
@@corey2232 Two Words: California Wildfire.
@@zidniafifamani2378 Eh, that might be more relevant now, but back in the 40's not as much. Climate wasn't as dry & hot, & population was much lower than it is today.
But even today, doubt very many militaries would much commit time & resources to sending a few planes to bomb trees over strategic military targets
Imagine what the Soviets would have built if they got to inspect the Subs.
Well the idea is totally stupid and ineffective, so I imagine they wouldn't have done anything different.
@@olivernorth7418 they probably will make it bigger. As what they always do.
@@jinatlas8674 And make it even more stupid and ineffective? I say go right ahead. You realise that making something bigger doesn't make it more cost-effective, right? It tends to do the opposite. Also, the Soviets didn't stupidly enlarge their technology. That was the Germans. The clickbait 'massive Soviet tech' videos were all small experiments.
@@olivernorth7418 I don't think so. I feel that the Soviets would do anything to try to keep up to the US by improving it by a ton. Thank god they did not find this.
@@Mdmdnnskaojcnnrjwiaopx How would they 'improve it a ton'? If the Soviets would have been able to improve the design enough to be able to rival the US navy with a tiny number of these subs, they should have been able to design significantly better tanks, planes and guns than the US in our timeline. They weren't able to, so I have no idea why you think that they had the capability turn this crappy boat into an effective weapon.
The effect at the beginning was so nice
imagine when we have aircraft carriers underwate-
japan: say no more.
We the Japanese Navy could point it at your China's vessels and deep ocean of submarine, in and out of the earth already! Just wait for the command and.....
If Japan destroy other countries Japan will be bigger
Do United States have a secret? But Japan don't have a secret Japan wants a bigger Country
The ultimate Japanese super weapon is of course the Shogun Executioner
Ah yes, a fellow man of culture
I tip my hat to you, fellow legend
Where is... my body? , Giga Fortresses are among the most powerful weapons the Empire ever developed.
I imagine a single shogun executioner invade my country.
Ah man of culture I see
Having the Japanese being our friends now a days gives me a sense of comfort.
True lol😂😂😂😂They now have the industrial might and imagination to bring deadly weapons to life.
_World Wars never has a happy ending, but atleast we can see cool weapons in use._
They should've put a superlaser on it. That would've been useful
Nope world wars brought us most of the civilian technologies we are using today
It had a happy ending, America won
Visakh R because it’s better to nuke a few cities with hundreds of thousands dead than to burn a whole country with millions dead, and if you don’t think that just look at the example in Germany.
The War is bad, you should be ashamed
Soviets: “whatcha go there?”
US: “a smoothie”
FBI OPEN UP
Thanks for the like
This video: Submarine Aircraft Carrier
Me: *Ace Combat Intensifies*
*>*
Salvation
(SALUTEM AV DEUS intensifies)
real Alicorn hours
Scinfaxi and Hrimfaxi time
To be honest, the Americans would’ve considered a cripple wielding a stick a danger. I-400 was a very bad idea, but considering the context, it was for the better, it diverted Japanese ressources from other more critical areas to a project that even if completed, would’ve still been a farce. 15 subs with 3 planes, no means of resupplying in the middle of the ocean? That’s a one trick pony.
And even if they would’ve managed to launch one attack with all 45 planes, the damage would’ve been minimal. After the shock, the Americans would double sea patrols and hunt down all these lumbering subs, riveted, so once they were located it was game over.
A complete joke.
Yeah, the purpose it was made was for a surprise attack, so once it's known, it would become a complete joke. It's just a waste of materials, they should've just find another way of keeping the americans off the pacific or just focused on stabilizing their conquered territories and proceeded to conquer more once they've stabilized themselves. Look at where their poor decision-making led them, 2 cities just got bombed and a lot of lives were lost, the disadvantages far outweighed the advantages. Would've been badass to see Japan becoming a superpower, maybe they'd make gundams, lmao.
pretty juvenile and arrogant to assume that not one person in the Japanese army managed to realize these issues that is so apparent to RUclips viewers lol. This was the 40s. A movable, undetectable base, even with only 3 bombers, that can submerge itself under water was definitely a threat. There is a reason why there was so much interest for the engineering/design of these things way past the war as well. 'The damage would've been minimal', patently false. 40 (54 theoretically) surprise bombers (with plausible ability to return base) can very easily change the course of war. Gunpower matters way lesser than planning and execution when the countries are eons apart with no apparent warfront/trenches/embargo. This wasn't a traditional conflict (still isn't) from a technical pov
The attacks would divert US resources away from the assault and moved to coastal patrols to stop possible I-400 attacks
Well this is why you aren't an Admiral. If Japan had even a quarter of the resources America did, Japan would have done a full scale attack with the I-400 class in a heartbeat. They could level New York City in one go with only 45 planes strapped with bombs, it would have been devastating. Factories completely disabled. US fleets would have to be spread thin after even one surprise attack, allowing for a smaller fleet in the Pacific.
@@user-pn3im5sm7k
1. Going straight for New York would have been pretty stupid as it is on the other side of a continent the other side of an ocean
2. No matter how many planes carrying such a small amount of bombs, they wouldnt be able to realistically bomb the US industrial power, even if they had a good reconnaisance of the plants.
3. AA guns, ships and the american airforce would make a good work for whatever flying thing made its way to such an important
4. The US also had the numbers, as even 100s of those submarines wouldnt be able to stop the ginormous amount of vessels the US had and could build at the time
I have two models of the I-401, second ship of the class. However, they're a little different, seeing as they're equipped with super gravity cannons.
it came with waifus????
Arpeggio I think I-401 Iona
@@robinekhoodekful yes Arpeggio blue steel is the anime
So you have waifu models?
hmm that's funny my ships are pieces of ship randomly attached to some poor girl
Mustard in the near future: *here we found lost documents and blueprints for a bipedal AT-GT(All Terrain Ground Transport) designed by the imperial 4rth Reich led by the tyrannical emperor Rudolf whose uprising has been cancelled due to snow...*
Their main base? On the dark side of the moon.
Interestingly, the only attacks on the US mainland during WWII were from a Japanese submarine (I-25) and a float-plane it kept disassembled in it's conning tower. The submarine shelled FT. Stevens in Oregon in June 1942 and the plane dropped incendiary bombs near a couple of small Oregon towns in September the same year. No significant damage was done.
It did, however, cause a panic among air defenses in America that led to the Battle of Los Angeles incident, which due to misinformation has been immortalized as an example of UFO identification.
I lived there, Brookings Oregon. Has a small crater from an incendiary bomb.
A truely impressive design with innovative engineering. No wonder post war Japan did so well!
Dude, this thing was a piece of garbage. The practical military application of a huge, slow submarine that can only carry 3 bombers is insignificant.
"A calculated gamble" spoken like a true addict
Yes
Boy did he crap out hard on that one. Real doofus move considering USA didn’t wanna do war anyways lmao
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@@_joerooney skooin on m8
"Torpedo dive bombers" Hey, wait a minute
Torpedo / Dive Bomber
@@FirstDagger That's not remotely clear from how he talks about them. It sounds ignorant.
Imagine being dive bombed by a 9 meters long torpedo
I know what he meant, but saying "torpedo dive bomber" sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about. "Bomber" would have been sufficient.
Arioch IV No, because it would have neglected to describe their secondary role as torpedo aircraft. Everyone with any kind of insight into WWII naval air warfare understood what he was talking about.
There is an anime called Arpeggio of Blue Steel and the female lead, Iona, is the I-401.
Exactly what I was thinking! I-400, that sounded familiar!
Silly anime
@@nuclearwarhead9338 That doesn't mean that annoys to you. Not necessary to reply with no ideas.
Fucking weeb!!!!!
But I don't see the I-400s carry lasers in this video
Thanks NEBULA I'm a retired 66 yo male this is the first time I heard this you have a new follower great story KUDOS JAPAN however even if JAPAN had this great weapon the PROBLEMS you DESCRIBED were INSURMOUNTABLE & BTW AUGUST 9th 1945 that's the day it didn't matter anymore!! 🙏I PRAY to our LORD THAT THIS BOMB IS NEVER EVER USED AGAIN IN OUR FUTURE🙏??
Give Japan enough time, and they'll come up with real, combat-worthy Gundams.
Absolutely
Im not to sure
@@engihere5434 a real gundam that can moves already been realized in yokohama.
@@pan17awa yep about few years ago
and Destroyed by 1 ATGM missle
*"Scinfaxi" starts playing*
Americans: Why do I hear boss music?
Alicorn: *LOUD LATIN CHOIR NOISES*
Hrimfaxi:what about me?
I knew I didn't needed to scroll down further to find an Ace Combat reference
*SALVATION*
Ooh yeah ace combat fans unite !
Tamamoto: "This plan could keep the Americans out of this, we could even get a truce with them."
4 years later:
*A 5 ton bomb is falling out of the sky*
Yamamoto was killed by P-38s which removed much of the funding for I-400 subs
Oof
Thanks!
"Ditch into the ocean" ....yeah, that's what they were gunna do...
more like 'Divine into the Wind'
Ditch directly into the nearest US naval vessel
If I recall correctly these pilots had special training, so they were more valuable
China: ok watch out for US carrier.
Chinese soldier: sir there is a submarine carrying planes...
They never thought of sending them to China they had already invaded like the rape of nanking was in 1941
America: thanks bud for the i 400 technology!!!!!
Japan: any time pal ......Just don't bring down the sun again......
America don't worry
Copy
@faasd fer Not really, US opinions of Japan could not have been any lower anyway, and those pinpricks would not have made any difference militarily. It would tie up some air patrol resources, but once radar was out and about these huge ships would be sitting ducks.
there must be a cooking channel somewhere called "Aeronautics Tech"...
lol
Interestingly, I’d say this concept is not as crazy now as it was in WW2. Imagine a submarine sneaking into enemy territory undetected and deploying 10 F35s and F22s less than a mile from shore. The enemy would likely not have time to scramble interceptor sorties, if they even detected the jets at all.
On paper, it’s not insane
Steve Rogers in avengers (2012): Is this a submarine?
Imperial Japan: YES
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Lol.... Love from Japan
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"The element of surprise was the submarines main advantage". I would argue that its the ONLY advantage this thing has. Here are its downsides, that this doc fails to mention:
1. The seaplane torpedo bombers dont function as well as carrier based bombers (because the pontoons are heavy)
2. Its big and heavy, making it an easier target for bombers - remember the biggest killer of german subs in WW2 was aircraft!
3. Does being big and heavy make it better at being a torpedo sub? No. Its slower and easier to spot. Takes longer to submerge, easier to hit with depth charges, moves slower. Why even bother putting torpedo tubes on this thing? A destroyer would beat it in a fight either way.
4. All of that heavy armament! By the time germany was losing the war, they realized subs perform better without any heavy armament on the hull. It just slows the boat down and subs dont make good firing platforms (they rock and roll with the waves too much, unlike surface ships). The germans removed all of the heavy guns from their subs by the end of the war.
5. Are 3 torpedo bombers REALLY that good? Carriers like the Akage held 66 (+25 fighters/bombers in reserve). You would be unable to do anything with 3, slowed down pontoon bombers.
There is a reason NO OTHER MILITARY EVER went with this design. It was real cool, ill give it that...but useless.
yup. pretty much this. imo you need to go bigger to have usable planes. (no pontoons, more planes) but then you lose more the advantage of the whole sub thing. I think just having aircraft carriers is the way to go.
I think point 4 is kinda addressed by the fact they already had a double hull to specifically prevent rocking and rolling as much to assist aircraft launch, and the guns wouldn't slow down a sub of that size by a large proportion. Agree on all the rest though.
I agree. Destroyers can literally drop depth chargers and call it a day. Though there's a mistake. It's Akagi not Akage
The only way I could see this concept working is to take a full regular carrier and make it submersible somehow
Something like this really needs the benefits of scaling up, and probably also a nuclear reactor too
The point of these weren’t to be in active war zones. As you saw they were for sneak attacks on the coasts of the US where there wasn’t even any battles happening. Especially attacking the eastern seaboard would have been the last thing the US expected from Japan. If all 18 were used and 9 for each coast thats 27 bombers to attack an unexpecting city. Then they go back and do it again somewhere else on the coast that’s unexpected. Also these submarines have way more defenses from air attacks than the German u boats
The animation is beautiful. That’s why I watch these. No modern documentaries compare to your skill.
It should be noted - The I-400 did not have a functional underwater toilet, no refrigeration unit and so little space for the crew, members were forced to sleep in corridors.
Because of the island, the ship always had to steer 7* to SB in order to go straight and the turning radius was much larger to starboard than to port
It did however have a relatively high cruising speed of 14kn/h compared to the usually 10 for subs at the time.
Imagine sailing 30.000nm in those conditions.
"Admiral, good day to you. I'm the eldest of the Sentoku-class, first ship, I-400. Hmm.... Shi...o...n? Yes... Shion... please call me that."
-shion
Ah yes. Man of culture
Everyone in the battleship gangsta tills the sinking aircraft carrier resurfaces else where
Now I'm imagining WW2 aircraft carriers unsinking themselves and just... Drifting into port.
Like a lost dog: "it took me a while, but I'm home!"
Its not god tho itll sink from an explosion 😆
me at 3AM: i'm going to bed.
youtube: wanna learn about japanase subarines?
me: well let's find out!
"All slow ahead! Flood the aft tanks!"
"But sir, that will make us sink aft first!"
"AND THAT WILL GIVE THE GUN THE ELEVATION IT NEEDS"
"1 MILLION LIVES!!"
So, nobody's going to talk about how badass the animations are?
Me: alright done with playing games time to slee---
Mustard: *Uploads a Video*
Me: _There goes my sleeping schedule_
Being Japanese, I never knew how reckless the Imperial Japanese Armed forces were in the second world war. Watching your videos has informed me so much, thank you! 🇯🇵
Still some of the firecrest warriors in human history.
@@badcornflakes6374 and some of the braveist
@@Narakagi2 and the god of war in asia
I hope your schools taught you the kind of atrocities your soldiers committed all over Asia.
We demand japanese to remember their atoricies
But when "Ai Kayano" wanna respect her ancestor from ww2
why everyone get pissed off ?
History is fking history
No matter how much it didnt align with our self interest
We cant deny their past
Anyone who been in combat would know
"good & evil" is just humanity propaganda against each other
While the victor decide, what to ignored/stay in history BOOKS
just how we busy with WMD in middle east, while African in havoc
why soldier abide the rule ?
despite knowing they being pawned against their common sense?
They do have option, but world is not simple as A B C,
Btw my country also invaded by japanese back then,
and i been brainwashed to hate them at first
After join reservist, it should make me more patriotic right ?
those my old days,
I am not being fk up badly enough yet, just got peek of it
but reality is not same as what history tell me,
luckily it enough for me to realize,
No matter how much war crime other did,
they still a human, like everyone
No matter how much justice i preach,
im still a human like everyone
All human only care when it align with their interest
Alturism just a way to comfort our own guilty
we just a bunch of fool on fking floating rock called "Earth"
What worse than thing i mention above
despite all thing already been told
Humanity just gonna blame it on other
Or point someone else fault,
when they running out of option
Can’t wait for Wargamming to add this to World of Warships, I’m sure the community will “luv” it
A submarine that can just appear out of nowhere and has 8 torps with 3 aircraft? I can see why they will ‘love’ it lmao
"Humanity can be crafty when they fight each other."
- i heard this somewhere but it's true 😂
The vast majority of major technological advances are made for the purpose of war. Pretty much everything you can think of.
Necessity is the mother of all invention. War barely accounts for anything, that’s just what idiot neocons love to say.
Yuktobania: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
*(cue Scinfaxi, Hrimfaxi and the Alicorn)*
A knower i see
Ace Combat 4 the win
Ah, you are a man of culture as well!
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Ace Combat 5. I love that game!
Nobody:
Mustard in every video ever:
“Unlike anything they have seen before”
Also! *ITS REVOLUTIONARY*
Probably because they all are as far as I know... Something fresh and new to talk about
Nono, he's got a point
With modern technology this concept could be far more viable. F-35B fighters can launch from an incredibly short runway and land vertically. The sub would have to be enormous, probably in the ballpark of 800 feet long with a displacement of over 35,000 tons, but submarines of a similar size have been proven to be successful. Being able to conduct an airstrike or provide air support independent of a carrier strike group could be a game-changer.
At this point, they could bite the bullet and build them enormous, with facilities and means to operate in complete isolation from supply lines on board
Like proto-spaceships