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@@davidegaruti2582 Tbf we still were on top of the best air fighters and then we made the gap even bigger of course it didn't kill the F35, not in a time of war where we need to allocate funds properly
It’s incredible that the concept was not only tested, but proven multiple times in combat. I can’t believe I haven’t heard this story sooner. Great video!
Because they are doing away with truth , history and _who_ made these machines, whether Allied or Axis powers. They want to rewrite history to fit their narrative.
@@PotniMuzik they shoulda developed this instead of those submarines. Like yeah seems like a money sink but like honestly if ya could get this concept to work as well as an American aircraft carrier the Soviet Union might still exist.
I'm blown away by the fact that they ACTUALLY FLEW COMBAT MISSIONS. I had NO CLUE that they actually existed. I'd always seen things about experimental airborne carriers but never knew that a successful model made it into service and combat. Awesome video, I'm always excited to see and learn about things like this. So thank you again. 😊
I freaking love many of the Soviet and Russian concepts, they look so strange, almost alien, in other parts of the planet, almost like something coming from a sci fi show.
@@WE-WUZZING-KANGS-N-SHEEOYT you have "genius" and then you have "too stupid to realise a bad idea" Tell me again how long aerial aircraft carriers lasted again?
@brentonherbert - Soviet aircraft aircraft-carriers lasted until fighter jets could carry enough fuel to reach deep into enemy territory. Then, the carriers became obsolete. Doesn't mean they didn't cleverly fill a much-needed niche at the time. And quite successfully, at that.
The bridge in Romania (King Carol I bridge) was actually critically important for the axis war machine since it was one of the few railway bridges over the enormous Danube. It connects the romanian harbor of Konstanza with the Bukarest. Repairs took four months, involving romanian railway engineers from the CFR Resicabánya and specialists coming from MAN in germany. The bridge stands to this day but has been taken ouf of service in 1987.
Still perfectly operational and used occasionally if the volume of traffic demands it, as I've passed it a few times even in the last 10 years when one of the spans of the new bridge was undergoing maintenance. The problem with is is that it's single line, whereas the new bridge built in 1987 is double line.
Almost made me cry seeing the planes that had seemed fated to die without ever flying a mission being used so brilliantly and proving that looks aren’t everything.
@@termiusprime Nah, Found and Explained is a wannabee Mustard copycat. It is so blatant that he has been trying so hard to copy Mustard's style and voice for a while now. Doesn't deserve to be anywhere near Mustard.
The idea of having the fighters provide extra power to the bombers while attached is brilliant. It keeps them from being dead weight and boosts the speed and range of the bomber-carriers themselves. Fascinating and well-done as always, Mustard!
At the cost of reducing the useful range of the attached aircraft. And since re-attaching in flight was impossible, it would limit the maximum return-flight distance: And thus, operational radius.
@@NuiJagaa it's either: “Wow, the Soviets waren't as incompetent as Hollywood makes them out to be” or “It's the Soviets we are talking about [Insert the most absurd and worn off propaganda wall of text to ever exist]” In both cases it's childish.
I heard that russians guys' voice somehere else and it took my head for a spin. I was thinking that people have mulitple channels and that is the case sometimes.
Unusual project, based on outdated planes, doing battle missions and surviving them is already shocking But the fact they _worked_ is next level of completely amazing stuff
So this unique, obscure, seemingly doomed to fail military aircraft: 1. Finished much development before the war, 2. Actually saw combat use during the war, and 3. Was effective in what it was intended to do?! This is now my favorite video by you, Mustard. Success after all the effort done is great to hear! Thank you for talking about Vladimir Vakhmistrov and the Zveno airborne aircraft carriers he envisioned!
@@shoam2103 Initially, due to near-total surprise. The video goes on to explain how Soviet records abruptly stopped on the deployment of this carrier-fighter combination, which given Soviet reticence to discuss or document their mistakes, indicates that it wasn't very successful once the Germans caught on.
This is one of those odd circumstances in war where a seemingly obsolete solution to a now technically obsolete problem was used to extremely great effect simply due to a disbelief that such a solution existed. Really interesting stuff. Hadn't heard of the Zvenos before but this was a great summary of their development and usage! Good work chief.
I was not aware of this project’s existence, much less it’s use in the war. The fact it worked as well as it did is a testimony to the the designer and the crews of the planes. We need more Paper Skies/ Mustard collaborations. Excellent video
It's such a Soviet classic to have some sort of lumbering beast of a machine come out of seemingly nowhere and wreck havoc on axis forces while they can't do anything but stand and watch.
The first successful flight of Zveno-1, which consisted of a TB-1 heavy bomber carrying two I-4 fighters on its wings, took place on December 4, 1931. One of the I-4 pilots was the famous Soviet test pilot Valery Chkalov. He is known for being the commander of the crew of the ANT-25 aircraft, which made the first non-stop flight over the North Pole from Moscow to America (Vancouver, Washington) on June 18-20, 1937.
I love a underdog story like this. A old and outdadet machine, being pult from storage to try out a stupid idee someone had years ago.... And then WIN! The old boy did it. Love it when old machines can shine one more time to show that they can do it
Or, imagine a giant contact the size of a city splitting into hundreds. This and the American attempt at this concept inspired the existence of the Arsenal Bird from Ace Combat 7.
Tbf this concept worked exactly because of the lack of radar which meant that the Zveno fleet could appear suddenly anywhere and release its fighters where you least expect it.
No wonder this took time. Heck, I'm surprised it only took 2 months to animate all of detailed air battle. Mustard really has expanded his animation skills from plain water and air backgrounds, to dynamic land vehicle movements and now aerial battles
Zveno is probably the only successful parasite aircraft system ever operated in combat, while the other system (Akron/Macon, Goblin, Tip-Tow, Tom-Tom, FICON, 747 AAC) were all canceled
@cssstylescommand4 idk, perhaps because people who study history know more than those who don't? Or, some may call this "nerdy" content, and us nerds like to learn and discuss practical things? I'm not verbalizing well, make sense?
Post WWII, efforts were canceled or half-hearted mostly because In-Flight Refueling was, for most intents and purposes, a more flexible evolution of the concept In the interwar period and WWII, the concept was marred not by performance factors, but the sheer difficulty of connecting with another aircraft mid flight
Your animations keep getting better! I love flying carriers. I hope you’ll cover the USS Akron and Macon along with the f9c sparrowhawks in depth someday. Insane to think Goodyear wanted a flying battleship out of the whole thing.
Much fueled by arrogance and imperialism.. To the dispare of Soviet soldiers. Otherwise they wouldn't have been russians, if they had refused to fly a kamikaze vessel
@@skaniukas but the idea is kinda cool even with how much tech they have in hand but some how it work :P if they have better tech maybe it will be even cooler
Boeing designed a flying aircraft carrier too, but in the end it was decided that designing unique parasite fighters would have been way too expensive as opposed to just using standard fighters that refueled from airborne tankers.
I'd love to see a video on the history of German airships in WWI. It was the only time in history when airships were used in large numbers (around 100 throughout the war). There are absolutely bizarre details and anecdotes from that era, like an airship blocking the wind flow against a sailship (and subsequently engaging in piracy against the poor trader). Another fun story involves the issue of landing these behemoths in the fog, which often involved ground crews singing - though at one point an airship almost landed on top of an unrelated singing company on the march. Near the end of the war, there was also a mission to send an airship all the way to the African colonies for a resupply mission. While unsuccessful, they still broke records with that daunting trip. The technical details are also fascinating. They had to invent many safety features regarding electrical lines, access to the engines and simply keeping people from freezing on fully exposed structures at immense heights. They created a tube system with oxygen to keep at least the bridge crew in good shape, tried out a gondola to peek below the clouds, and used melting ice for ballast. The comments from high-ranking officers of the time are also very interesting. Quite a few were fully aware that airships weren't an effective weapon and would soon be surpassed by planes. They pretty much gambled on the allies using more resources to fight airships and that supposedly panned out.
As a 37yr old, with kids, and a racecar.. I genuinely get excited when you post a new video. The quality is unmatched by any other in this field. Keep it up bud. We greatly appreciate the awesome historical work that you do.
How odd that I spent 5 years studying in the Soviet Union and while they proudly mentioned their achievements during their Great Patriotic War, they never mentioned this incredible technology once. Was it still a state secret back in the eighties? 😮
First edition of Shavrov’s “History of aircraft design in USSR” was printed in 1969 and was covering almost all the projects till early 50’s. I had this book (in fact, two volumes of several hundred pages) when I was schoolboy, and this Zveno project was well described there. If you were interested in aviation in 80’s, you had to know about it. ;) Regards.
Нет, секрета тогда уже не было. Но не было и интернета, надо было целенаправленно интересоваться историей авиации или Великой Отечественной Войны, чтоб найти эту информацию
@@derek8564 and i'm not an attention seeking idiot, i just really appreciate mustard and his great content that has actual effort put in, unlike a lot of other youtube videos nowadays
So excited for the nebula original later this month, Been following you since your first video and cant wait to see your new ones every month, The rewatchability in them is amazing ❤
It's awesome to see you cover this! I used to and occasionally continue to play IL-2 Sturmovik, and it had this very setup modelled and working in the game, both as the pilot of the bomber, and as a pilot of one of the carried aircraft. Was always... interesting... trying to separate without running into the mother plane. 😅
I’m dying to see you do another video on a spacecraft or planned space structures that were canceled. I know it may be too much but if you could do a video on the proposed ways we could have and still can live on other worlds, that’d be epic.
@@MustardChannel I can't believe that the soviets actually made working flying aircraft carriers, and that they were actually highly successful! Such a shame no other country ever made their own, bc now you can't make a video on it
To have Paper Skies and Mustard come together in this video is amazing! Would love to see them do more work together in future videos! Especially on the crazy and legendary soviet aircraft ones. 👌🏻
Ive been watching Mustard since the very beggining and somehow i keep on getting surprised by the amount of detail every single time they upload. It's a good day when mustard uploads. i think everyone in this comments group will agree.
I'd absolutely love to see you do a video on the A-10 Warthog, it's a marvel of engineering and the history and story behind it are amazing and I think you would do a superb job of telling it. I also think you would do fantastic doing a video on the F-22 Raptor for the same reasons.
I'm so glad for this video! After playing IL 2 Sturmovik in my childhood it was one of the most unusual and breathtaking missions in game. I'm very happy to see the full story behind this!
I am a fan of both you and Paper Skies, and I gotta say; I was grinning the entire time on his parts of the narration. I found it to be really genius (and appropriate) to bring him in and have him narrate the video in the character of Vladimir Vakhmistrov selling the idea of the Zveno carriers and explaining how they could work. It's a bit sad that as cool as airborne carriers are, they're just simply too impractical to be viable, at least with regards to manned aircraft, which need quite a lot of things for the squishy human piloting them from within. If the concept is truly gonna be a reality, we're probably only likely to see them carrying unmanned aircraft in modest numbers (sad Arsenal Bird noises).
We could see something around the size of a B52 carrying drones around the size of a shahed 136. There is already drone swarms that have been deployed by the F16 or F18 if I remember right so we may see them scale it up. I think it was only a proof of concept but it was still cool to see clips of years ago.
Well the concept worked before radar because it gave you the element of surprise but fundamentally radar killed the idea because it just ends up being a bigger target.
This is such an interesting and enjoyable video. The production values and visualisation are top notch. I've been a WW2 buff all my life yet never came across this story until now. Well done on creating such engaging and fresh content! 👍
It's clever to play to your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. When you're rich in material but poor in industrial capacity, a design that can get you 80% of the effectiveness at 50% of the cost is well worth it Also, people can come up with some ingenious solutions when they don't have as much to work with
@@TheMonkeystick "Also, people can come up with some ingenious solutions when they don't have as much to work with". Absolutely correct. For example a soviet electronics engineer told me there were only two factories in the entire country that could produce the parts he needed, and those were overbooked. So his team had to come up with some completely unorthodox solutions to do the same thing without them.
Up until this point I thought that only airships had been used as aircraft carriers in a practical manner. I had no idea the USSR managed to repurpose a bomber as a functioning airborne aircraft carrier. One little mistake I noticed in the video is the Lockheed CL-1201 being mislabeled as "CL-2101" at 11:01. Quality videos as always, Mustard, and it was about time you collabed with Paper Skies!
It's good that Vladimir Vahkmistrov's concept was able to proof its worth and defend the Motherland but I wonder what happened to the man afterwards? In 1938 he was demoted from his head designer role and he passed away in 1972 but what happened in between, there doesn't seem to be much info publicly available.
He was sent to Crimea and took part in preparation process of those successful flights, than he worked on similar interesting projects with Polikarpov till the end of war. In 1949 he designed aerial refueling system. Married to the sister of one of the most famous Soviet engineer's that worked with Sergei Korolev. It's actually sad that even russian speaking sources have little information... modern russian government didn't want to look pathetic compared to Soviet Union, so they don't really want to remember all of the soviet history. This channel have more respect to soviet history than russian ministry of culture.
@@gasmask1795 Hmmmmmm... So Vakhmistrov wasn't purged or murdered or sent to GULAG... Surely there must be a way to shit on Russians anyway? Oh! There's few historical records on him, let's say he was forgotten and Russia hates him!
@@jeb123 No, it was first introduced by Alexander Seversky and performed by US pilots. Probably, It was modern adaptation in our case. I'll try to find more information anyway.
I love Mustard because while most of the Invention went like this - problem, need solutions - many designs, chosen one - all looks good, works as intended - ended up built a few And the problem is always : 1. Too expensive 2. Outdated 3. Not practical enough / other solution I love Mustard tho
The problem that parasite fighters always seem to run into is that they are rather complicated and require highly trained crews, particularly for redocking. It's far cheaper and safer to use drop tanks and aerial refuelling.
That animated shot of a whole squadron of F-4 Phantoms being carried under the wing of a superbomber at 11:20 really becomes all the more mind blowing when you think about how big the Phantom was all by itself!
Mustard, I have a video request for you. There is a one of a kind aircraft that in my opinion deserves some spotlight. Back in the 1940's - 1950's era, there was a Cargo variant of the B-36 known as the XC-99. Imagine a aircraft that was two B-36's stacked on top of each other. It was a one of a kind aircraft that enjoyed a surprisingly long flight service for a prototype. During its time, it set a fair amount of aviation records in transportation; among other categories. Currently, it is in parts being preserved at the Bone Yard (take with grain of salt, my source maybe out of date). It is hoped that one day, the plane will be rebuilt, but for now the price is to high because for Magnesium build up. If this could be made into a RUclips or Nebula video, it would be amazing. This aircraft had such a rich history for a prototype that in my mind, deserves to be remembered. Thank you for your consideration.
Honestly I'm really pleasantly surprised that for how crazy this design is that it actually worked! I knew this design existed but I had no idea it actually saw success!
I would love to see you branch into some spacecraft topics. There have been hundreds of super wacky proposals that actually had some work invested in them throughout the decades.
I'd love to see a "Making of a Mustard Video" type of episode. The overall production quality is always so incredible (3D models, narration, video details), taking a peek behind the scenes would be very interesting.
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More naval videos pls
Do the german highspeed ICE train, which was the fastest in the world in 1988.
Edison Trucks in BC would be an awesome topic to cover even though it's a work in progress.
More 60s era soviet engineering
Or about the Mercedes t80 before ww2?
''Too big and expensive'' has killed many of the coolest ideas ever.
war is rarely a competition of who can make the best but instead the most
Didn't kill the f35 ...
@@davidegaruti2582 Tbf we still were on top of the best air fighters and then we made the gap even bigger of course it didn't kill the F35, not in a time of war where we need to allocate funds properly
@@davidegaruti2582 except it's not big, unique or unproven it's just expensive
@@davidegaruti2582. And B-2
It’s incredible that the concept was not only tested, but proven multiple times in combat. I can’t believe I haven’t heard this story sooner. Great video!
Because they are doing away with truth , history and _who_ made these machines, whether Allied or Axis powers. They want to rewrite history to fit their narrative.
yeah, actually there's so many stories about my country, but unfortunately the majority of them are still hiden in shadows
This would make a great movie
@@PotniMuzik The west thinks the whole of Russia is always lurking in the shadows, so we hide ourselves away in the darkness like utter losers.
@@PotniMuzik they shoulda developed this instead of those submarines. Like yeah seems like a money sink but like honestly if ya could get this concept to work as well as an American aircraft carrier the Soviet Union might still exist.
I'm blown away by the fact that they ACTUALLY FLEW COMBAT MISSIONS. I had NO CLUE that they actually existed. I'd always seen things about experimental airborne carriers but never knew that a successful model made it into service and combat. Awesome video, I'm always excited to see and learn about things like this. So thank you again. 😊
I freaking love many of the Soviet and Russian concepts, they look so strange, almost alien, in other parts of the planet, almost like something coming from a sci fi show.
They were not successfull
@@Wen6543ikr they were quite genius
@@WE-WUZZING-KANGS-N-SHEEOYT you have "genius" and then you have "too stupid to realise a bad idea" Tell me again how long aerial aircraft carriers lasted again?
@brentonherbert - Soviet aircraft aircraft-carriers lasted until fighter jets could carry enough fuel to reach deep into enemy territory. Then, the carriers became obsolete. Doesn't mean they didn't cleverly fill a much-needed niche at the time. And quite successfully, at that.
Mustard x Paper Skies is an elite combination. Thank you both for your collaboration!
Thank you!
Oh, he was the narrative voice of Vukhmistrov!
The voice change is a bit jarring though. @@MustardChannel
@@singular9 but very fitting, plus they snuck in some soviet propoganda which i found to be kind of funny
The bridge in Romania (King Carol I bridge) was actually critically important for the axis war machine since it was one of the few railway bridges over the enormous Danube. It connects the romanian harbor of Konstanza with the Bukarest. Repairs took four months, involving romanian railway engineers from the CFR Resicabánya and specialists coming from MAN in germany.
The bridge stands to this day but has been taken ouf of service in 1987.
The bridge was still somewhat used into the '90's. I clearly remember passing on it as a kid as late as 1991-1992.
Still perfectly operational and used occasionally if the volume of traffic demands it, as I've passed it a few times even in the last 10 years when one of the spans of the new bridge was undergoing maintenance. The problem with is is that it's single line, whereas the new bridge built in 1987 is double line.
It looks like it could have taken twi ce the tracks, like the rail bridge between the PRC and SRVN. Bombers had trouble with that one, too.
Poland?
Didn't exist or?
@@wingsofwrath4647 Interesting, I remember seeing the power lines half dismantled in the early 2000's
Almost made me cry seeing the planes that had seemed fated to die without ever flying a mission being used so brilliantly and proving that looks aren’t everything.
This is Mustard, not Soysauce...
You’re a very emotional person
Time to start exercising daily
@biohazard8295 Old planes participating against odds maybe is a little inspiring but traumatic? No way
@biohazard8295well he's obviously not being emotional over people that died lol.
Mustard and Paper Skies is a match as natural as Soviet engineers and batshit insane aircraft.
Don't forget Found and Explained!
@@termiusprime Nah, Found and Explained is a wannabee Mustard copycat. It is so blatant that he has been trying so hard to copy Mustard's style and voice for a while now. Doesn't deserve to be anywhere near Mustard.
Mustards is on his own league, he takes his time to release videos, but it is always worth the wait.
@@ugochukwueze496 His videos, truly are the best, and they go by way to quickly
Lol whoever said communisim stifiles innovation never looked at soviet aircraft!
As a long-time fan of Mustard, I think this is by far his best video. 😜
Wonder who that guys doing the soviet voice over was? 😏
I like to see your content too! Especially the booze carrier video
I was surprised to see you! and happy, I enjoy your content a lot :)
No idea why. Voice sounds familiar though. 😜😏j/k
Was about to ask if that was Paper Skies I heard
The idea of having the fighters provide extra power to the bombers while attached is brilliant. It keeps them from being dead weight and boosts the speed and range of the bomber-carriers themselves. Fascinating and well-done as always, Mustard!
I thought of carried planes to be useless until release, but the fact they can be useful even before that is truly outside-the-box optimisation
Very innovative
They are not only extra weight, they are also extra horsepower and lift.
It didn't give them extra range
At the cost of reducing the useful range of the attached aircraft. And since re-attaching in flight was impossible, it would limit the maximum return-flight distance: And thus, operational radius.
Mustard never fails to dissapoint , always finding the most intresting and entertaining machines
shouldn't it be "always fails to disappoint"? since he is not disappointing?
@@sepalmq1229 He cannot remove his mistake. Or he loses the heart.
Never failing to disappoint us a bad thing bro
Bro your fricking comment was 1 minute after the video came out
@@mmodernzzHe's been waiting the past two months, eagerly glued to his computer, to pull the trigger on the comment.
The Soviets actually managed to make the concept work. Actually incredible. It’s did pretty good too considering the German aircraft they faced.
Are you new on this planet?
@@HundshuntI have no idea what you're trying to say, this is borderline illegible.
@@NuiJagaa it's either: “Wow, the Soviets waren't as incompetent as Hollywood makes them out to be” or “It's the Soviets we are talking about [Insert the most absurd and worn off propaganda wall of text to ever exist]”
In both cases it's childish.
@@Hundshunt The USSR was something else.
@@Hundshunt The theory of Lebensraum existed before the Operation Barbarossa.
I would pay so much to see a full-fledged movie about this aircraft and its designer and the trials and tribulations they both faced.
The collaboration between Paper Skies and Mustard is so cool 😎
Let's hope there are more of them!
Paper Skies did mention he got a video coming out next Thursday so….. maybe
There was also an Easter egg me tin of Mustard in last video in regards to his voice and accent
Mustard and paper are kind of an odd combination, but it works.
I heard that russians guys' voice somehere else and it took my head for a spin. I was thinking that people have mulitple channels and that is the case sometimes.
Literally did not expect the cameo
Over 30 missions and only one fighter loss?😮 Not bad at all especially that they were outdated already
The I-16 was the A-Wing of WWII. In both positives and negatives.
@@TheEDFLegacy I like that metaphor. A surprise to be sure, but a velcome one.
They wasn't outdated. Stop listening to you Rusophobic propaganda of jealous losеrs
Unusual project, based on outdated planes, doing battle missions and surviving them is already shocking
But the fact they _worked_ is next level of completely amazing stuff
Especially for the Russian front
I can just imagine the Zveno just goes "attack them, my children"
laughing my ass of after reading this shit
German pilot seeing mulitple fighters spawn from bomber: Was zum Teufel ist hier los?
So this unique, obscure, seemingly doomed to fail military aircraft:
1. Finished much development before the war,
2. Actually saw combat use during the war, and
3. Was effective in what it was intended to do?!
This is now my favorite video by you, Mustard. Success after all the effort done is great to hear!
Thank you for talking about Vladimir Vakhmistrov and the Zveno airborne aircraft carriers he envisioned!
As the Vietnameses said: "First, where's money?"
Unfortunately, the combination of aircraft it was based on, the TB-3 and I-16, was obsolete by 1941.
As usual, the USSR succeeds where the capitalists fail. As a communist I'm not surprised.
@@katherineberger6329
4. Used obsolete aircraft 30+ years older and (maybe?) outperformed more modern designs with the combination?
@@shoam2103 Initially, due to near-total surprise. The video goes on to explain how Soviet records abruptly stopped on the deployment of this carrier-fighter combination, which given Soviet reticence to discuss or document their mistakes, indicates that it wasn't very successful once the Germans caught on.
Mustard's channel is really the definition of Quality over Quantity.
This is one of those odd circumstances in war where a seemingly obsolete solution to a now technically obsolete problem was used to extremely great effect simply due to a disbelief that such a solution existed. Really interesting stuff. Hadn't heard of the Zvenos before but this was a great summary of their development and usage! Good work chief.
I was not aware of this project’s existence, much less it’s use in the war. The fact it worked as well as it did is a testimony to the the designer and the crews of the planes. We need more Paper Skies/ Mustard collaborations. Excellent video
It's such a Soviet classic to have some sort of lumbering beast of a machine come out of seemingly nowhere and wreck havoc on axis forces while they can't do anything but stand and watch.
Mustard is fr the textbook definition of Quality over Quantity
And Lemmino, both of them are godly creators
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why under every videos there are always these same boring, inattentive comments.
@@lerbronk🗿🗿🗿you = based
@@lerbronkthey wanna be the first to post a likable comment.
Mustard and Paper Skies have finally collabed my life is complete
Now we need a Drachinifel collab with either one of them. 😅
The first successful flight of Zveno-1, which consisted of a TB-1 heavy bomber carrying two I-4 fighters on its wings, took place on December 4, 1931. One of the I-4 pilots was the famous Soviet test pilot Valery Chkalov. He is known for being the commander of the crew of the ANT-25 aircraft, which made the first non-stop flight over the North Pole from Moscow to America (Vancouver, Washington) on June 18-20, 1937.
I love a underdog story like this. A old and outdadet machine, being pult from storage to try out a stupid idee someone had years ago.... And then WIN! The old boy did it. Love it when old machines can shine one more time to show that they can do it
на тот момент, те самолеты были новыми.
This concept is so badass, imagine looking into your radar and seeing only 3 Air presence and it suddenly splits into 6 right before attacking
Or, imagine a giant contact the size of a city splitting into hundreds. This and the American attempt at this concept inspired the existence of the Arsenal Bird from Ace Combat 7.
It would be 9. Two for each fighter plus the bomber.
That's still better than seeing 0 air presence and suddenly your plane tells you to eject.
Tbf this concept worked exactly because of the lack of radar which meant that the Zveno fleet could appear suddenly anywhere and release its fighters where you least expect it.
I CANNOT tell you how hyped I got when you started to explain how the newer bombers weren't getting anywhere with that bridge. Every dog has his day!
No wonder this took time. Heck, I'm surprised it only took 2 months to animate all of detailed air battle. Mustard really has expanded his animation skills from plain water and air backgrounds, to dynamic land vehicle movements and now aerial battles
the animations are incredible to be honest
Zveno is probably the only successful parasite aircraft system ever operated in combat, while the other system (Akron/Macon, Goblin, Tip-Tow, Tom-Tom, FICON, 747 AAC) were all canceled
Party because aircraft weren't parasitic during the fly
Why are most commentators of this channel experts
@cssstylescommand4 idk, perhaps because people who study history know more than those who don't? Or, some may call this "nerdy" content, and us nerds like to learn and discuss practical things? I'm not verbalizing well, make sense?
Akron and Macon did work and flew a good number of non-combat missions, they were just lost to weather because airships
Post WWII, efforts were canceled or half-hearted mostly because In-Flight Refueling was, for most intents and purposes, a more flexible evolution of the concept
In the interwar period and WWII, the concept was marred not by performance factors, but the sheer difficulty of connecting with another aircraft mid flight
Your animations keep getting better!
I love flying carriers. I hope you’ll cover the USS Akron and Macon along with the f9c sparrowhawks in depth someday.
Insane to think Goodyear wanted a flying battleship out of the whole thing.
There’s a lot more flying aircraft carrier concepts/projects than I knew of! Thanks to Mustard for another awesome vid.
Didn’t expect Paper Skies to make an appearance. A welcome surprise.
I knew I recognized the voice!
no wonder the voice sounded familiar
Both are fantastic channels. Glad to see the collab!
''Too big and expensive'' has killed many of the coolest ideas ever.. Mustard's channel is really the definition of Quality over Quantity..
"Comrade, can we have the Arsenal bird. "
"Soviet Union already has Arsenal bird."
Arsenal bird at Soviet Union:
80 years later we still don’t have arsenal bird :/
I was not expecting a Paper Skies and Mustard collaboration and i love it!
Why in the world there isn’t more channels like this?? Please keep the great work man! You’re just a treasure hunter!
Soviet aviation never cease to amuse and in fact shock you with how seemingly out of the blue it is
they also had the flying tank, literally
@@archer8849and it went nowhere because to make it fly they needed to reduce its weight by removing its guns, ammo, and fuel
Much fueled by arrogance and imperialism..
To the dispare of Soviet soldiers.
Otherwise they wouldn't have been russians, if they had refused to fly a kamikaze vessel
@@skaniukas but the idea is kinda cool even with how much tech they have in hand but some how it work :P if they have better tech maybe it will be even cooler
Boeing designed a flying aircraft carrier too, but in the end it was decided that designing unique parasite fighters would have been way too expensive as opposed to just using standard fighters that refueled from airborne tankers.
The fact that it was actually effective makes this story so much better. Thanks Mustard!
I wonder how difficult it would be to rebuild a modernized version of one of those behemoths. That would be fascinating to see fly.
Yep a nuclear powered aircraft carrier with modern light weight materials
"Coughs in Ace Combat 6 and 7" 😅
@biohazard8295Totally would not be a disaster just waiting to happen
I’ve watched this channel for over 3 years, it’s honestly a great day when mustard uploads. I’m happy this channel still uploads
Mustard and Paper Skies? Fantastic! Your animations are always top knotch :D
Nice to see you here, Rex. Love your videos, keep up the good work. Looking forward to someday hearing your voice alongside Mustard and Paper’s. :)
Fun fact: this project lead to the most produced dive bomber of ww2; the Petlyakov Pe-2
I'd love to see a video on the history of German airships in WWI. It was the only time in history when airships were used in large numbers (around 100 throughout the war). There are absolutely bizarre details and anecdotes from that era, like an airship blocking the wind flow against a sailship (and subsequently engaging in piracy against the poor trader). Another fun story involves the issue of landing these behemoths in the fog, which often involved ground crews singing - though at one point an airship almost landed on top of an unrelated singing company on the march. Near the end of the war, there was also a mission to send an airship all the way to the African colonies for a resupply mission. While unsuccessful, they still broke records with that daunting trip.
The technical details are also fascinating. They had to invent many safety features regarding electrical lines, access to the engines and simply keeping people from freezing on fully exposed structures at immense heights. They created a tube system with oxygen to keep at least the bridge crew in good shape, tried out a gondola to peek below the clouds, and used melting ice for ballast.
The comments from high-ranking officers of the time are also very interesting. Quite a few were fully aware that airships weren't an effective weapon and would soon be surpassed by planes. They pretty much gambled on the allies using more resources to fight airships and that supposedly panned out.
Melting ice for ballast... good idea!
So awesome that you got an actual Soviet aircraft engineer to help. Paper Skies and Mustard are a match made in heaven.
As a kid I always wondered if something like this was possible but I never thought it would work
As a 37yr old, with kids, and a racecar.. I genuinely get excited when you post a new video. The quality is unmatched by any other in this field. Keep it up bud. We greatly appreciate the awesome historical work that you do.
How odd that I spent 5 years studying in the Soviet Union and while they proudly mentioned their achievements during their Great Patriotic War, they never mentioned this incredible technology once. Was it still a state secret back in the eighties? 😮
First edition of Shavrov’s “History of aircraft design in USSR” was printed in 1969 and was covering almost all the projects till early 50’s. I had this book (in fact, two volumes of several hundred pages) when I was schoolboy, and this Zveno project was well described there. If you were interested in aviation in 80’s, you had to know about it. ;)
Regards.
How it was to study in aquarium created for western students in ussr by ussr?
Нет, секрета тогда уже не было. Но не было и интернета, надо было целенаправленно интересоваться историей авиации или Великой Отечественной Войны, чтоб найти эту информацию
The fact he spared praise to the party for being provided with... a tractor is a funny reminder of where and when this was all taking place.
It's always an awesome day when mustard uploads
how many channels do you post that on looking for a like from the channel owner?
@@derek8564 only mustard so far
@@derek8564 and i'm not an attention seeking idiot, i just really appreciate mustard and his great content that has actual effort put in, unlike a lot of other youtube videos nowadays
amen
my bad. I apologize. @@skipslash7367
So excited for the nebula original later this month, Been following you since your first video and cant wait to see your new ones every month, The rewatchability in them is amazing ❤
I love this channel so much :) Congrats on another masterpiece!
These videos are consistently phenomenal, in animation and just how endlessly intriguing they are
These are my favorite type of videos from Mustard, something so outrageous and weird but was used at one point.
Thanks!
Thank you!
It's awesome to see you cover this! I used to and occasionally continue to play IL-2 Sturmovik, and it had this very setup modelled and working in the game, both as the pilot of the bomber, and as a pilot of one of the carried aircraft. Was always... interesting... trying to separate without running into the mother plane. 😅
I’m dying to see you do another video on a spacecraft or planned space structures that were canceled. I know it may be too much but if you could do a video on the proposed ways we could have and still can live on other worlds, that’d be epic.
We're working on a spacecraft topic, and it should be pretty epic.
@@MustardChannelnice
@@MustardChannel I can't believe that the soviets actually made working flying aircraft carriers, and that they were actually highly successful! Such a shame no other country ever made their own, bc now you can't make a video on it
Wow, these graphics are beautiful. Very pleasing to look at!
Mustard always trying to talk about the most unknown vehicles and we all love him for that
Incredible! Thanks for teaching us about these awesome pieces of technology.
Soviet Union: It’s a numbers game, we will win eventually; like the Casino.
Also Soviet Union: We don’t like gambling on new ideas.
To have Paper Skies and Mustard come together in this video is amazing! Would love to see them do more work together in future videos! Especially on the crazy and legendary soviet aircraft ones. 👌🏻
Ive been watching Mustard since the very beggining and somehow i keep on getting surprised by the amount of detail every single time they upload. It's a good day when mustard uploads. i think everyone in this comments group will agree.
I'd absolutely love to see you do a video on the A-10 Warthog, it's a marvel of engineering and the history and story behind it are amazing and I think you would do a superb job of telling it. I also think you would do fantastic doing a video on the F-22 Raptor for the same reasons.
I'm so glad for this video! After playing IL 2 Sturmovik in my childhood it was one of the most unusual and breathtaking missions in game. I'm very happy to see the full story behind this!
I am a fan of both you and Paper Skies, and I gotta say; I was grinning the entire time on his parts of the narration. I found it to be really genius (and appropriate) to bring him in and have him narrate the video in the character of Vladimir Vakhmistrov selling the idea of the Zveno carriers and explaining how they could work.
It's a bit sad that as cool as airborne carriers are, they're just simply too impractical to be viable, at least with regards to manned aircraft, which need quite a lot of things for the squishy human piloting them from within. If the concept is truly gonna be a reality, we're probably only likely to see them carrying unmanned aircraft in modest numbers (sad Arsenal Bird noises).
I see it as a very primitive, man controlled cruise missile carrier, the like of modern day B52 - tomahawk combo
We could see something around the size of a B52 carrying drones around the size of a shahed 136. There is already drone swarms that have been deployed by the F16 or F18 if I remember right so we may see them scale it up. I think it was only a proof of concept but it was still cool to see clips of years ago.
Well the concept worked before radar because it gave you the element of surprise but fundamentally radar killed the idea because it just ends up being a bigger target.
This is such an interesting and enjoyable video. The production values and visualisation are top notch. I've been a WW2 buff all my life yet never came across this story until now. Well done on creating such engaging and fresh content! 👍
Mustard I just wanted to say I’ve always loved your content keep up the great work
The soviet commitment to the "simple is the best" approach has always fascinate me.
More like “bodies are cheaper than research.”
@@youmongrelwhich wasn't unique to them nor was it common, the red army was on the preceptive of a genocide of their peoples and had to play it safe
It's clever to play to your strengths and minimize your weaknesses. When you're rich in material but poor in industrial capacity, a design that can get you 80% of the effectiveness at 50% of the cost is well worth it
Also, people can come up with some ingenious solutions when they don't have as much to work with
@@TheMonkeystick "Also, people can come up with some ingenious solutions when they don't have as much to work with".
Absolutely correct. For example a soviet electronics engineer told me there were only two factories in the entire country that could produce the parts he needed, and those were overbooked. So his team had to come up with some completely unorthodox solutions to do the same thing without them.
@@youmongrelKeep watching Hollywood bud
astounding program with facts I had never heard. Love this thank you
Up until this point I thought that only airships had been used as aircraft carriers in a practical manner. I had no idea the USSR managed to repurpose a bomber as a functioning airborne aircraft carrier. One little mistake I noticed in the video is the Lockheed CL-1201 being mislabeled as "CL-2101" at 11:01. Quality videos as always, Mustard, and it was about time you collabed with Paper Skies!
I love it when you post man. I haven’t watched the video yet but I can already tell it’s going to be epic
Not gonna lie, I had a smile creep up when I instantly recognized PaperSkies's voice.
Awesome collab partner.
It's good that Vladimir Vahkmistrov's concept was able to proof its worth and defend the Motherland but I wonder what happened to the man afterwards? In 1938 he was demoted from his head designer role and he passed away in 1972 but what happened in between, there doesn't seem to be much info publicly available.
He was sent to Crimea and took part in preparation process of those successful flights, than he worked on similar interesting projects with Polikarpov till the end of war. In 1949 he designed aerial refueling system. Married to the sister of one of the most famous Soviet engineer's that worked with Sergei Korolev.
It's actually sad that even russian speaking sources have little information...
modern russian government didn't want to look pathetic compared to Soviet Union, so they don't really want to remember all of the soviet history. This channel have more respect to soviet history than russian ministry of culture.
@@gasmask1795 Hmmmmmm... So Vakhmistrov wasn't purged or murdered or sent to GULAG... Surely there must be a way to shit on Russians anyway? Oh! There's few historical records on him, let's say he was forgotten and Russia hates him!
@@gasmask1795Is that the first aerial refueling system in the history?
@@jeb123 No, it was first introduced by Alexander Seversky and performed by US pilots. Probably, It was modern adaptation in our case. I'll try to find more information anyway.
@@gasmask1795 Thanks for info!
I love Mustard because while most of the Invention went like this
- problem, need solutions
- many designs, chosen one
- all looks good, works as intended
- ended up built a few
And the problem is always :
1. Too expensive
2. Outdated
3. Not practical enough / other solution
I love Mustard tho
Happy fifth year birthday mustard,we are glad to have you on the RUclips content community
The problem that parasite fighters always seem to run into is that they are rather complicated and require highly trained crews, particularly for redocking. It's far cheaper and safer to use drop tanks and aerial refuelling.
Redocking isnt necessary.
How has no one else made a decent video on this plane
Of all the crazy things done with the TB-3 it's insane that this is the one that worked best
Mustard and Paper Skies coming together has been a long time coming, and I'm glad it resulted in a wonderful result
That animated shot of a whole squadron of F-4 Phantoms being carried under the wing of a superbomber at 11:20 really becomes all the more mind blowing when you think about how big the Phantom was all by itself!
I got hundreds of hour flying this, both the TB-3 and the I-16 in IL-2 1946
Part of my childhood
Mustard, I have a video request for you.
There is a one of a kind aircraft that in my opinion deserves some spotlight.
Back in the 1940's - 1950's era, there was a Cargo variant of the B-36 known as the XC-99.
Imagine a aircraft that was two B-36's stacked on top of each other.
It was a one of a kind aircraft that enjoyed a surprisingly long flight service for a prototype.
During its time, it set a fair amount of aviation records in transportation; among other categories.
Currently, it is in parts being preserved at the Bone Yard (take with grain of salt, my source maybe out of date).
It is hoped that one day, the plane will be rebuilt, but for now the price is to high because for Magnesium build up.
If this could be made into a RUclips or Nebula video, it would be amazing.
This aircraft had such a rich history for a prototype that in my mind, deserves to be remembered.
Thank you for your consideration.
Amazing content, the incredible art style is simply icing on the cake!
It's always a good day when Mustard uploads 👍
Agreed!
It's a good day when Mustard uploads
Said everyone ever. Including me
Sadly he Only uploads twice a yeay
@@dexterroble6930He uploads every 10 weeks, there's 52 weeks in a year...
@@heidirabenau511 I guess I have to wait 10 weeks for the next video
having fantasies about something is one thing getting something useful out of it is something else
Hi Mustard! Love the videos! They’re always so informative and presented better than some documentaries! Keep it up :)
This is wild. Cannot believe I had never heard of this before. Another phenomenal video as always Mustard! Well done.
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love your videos , thank you bro
Honestly I'm really pleasantly surprised that for how crazy this design is that it actually worked! I knew this design existed but I had no idea it actually saw success!
I would love to see you branch into some spacecraft topics. There have been hundreds of super wacky proposals that actually had some work invested in them throughout the decades.
I'd love to see a "Making of a Mustard Video" type of episode.
The overall production quality is always so incredible (3D models, narration, video details), taking a peek behind the scenes would be very interesting.
he already made one, its on nebula
Wonderful animation. I particuarly liked the animation sequence at 1:51!
as drones become more present on the modern battlefield, i think we'll see this kind of tactic making a come back.
This feels straight out of a Hayao Miyazaki movie. So cool.
Great video! I never thought this concept was actually done and accomplished before with a bomber mother ship!
soviets took "backup engines" to a whole new level
Oh my god I just watched Paper Skies video and I'm so happy I saw both! It feels like a happy dream seeing both of you in each other's videos!!!
I absolutely love hearing about ingenuity displayed in dire situations!
What a cool concept! It's pretty amazing what humans are able to come up with when profit motive isn't a factor.
Slav-Aryan Humans with R1a haplogroup 80% minimum Are able to come up with it ONLY! And no one else can
@@johnvgrand nah, all goes from monke who cared about monke with hepatitis
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