I live in Melbourne, Australia. I bought a Benelli TRK 502X new 18 months ago. I’ve done 117,000 km on this bike with little trouble. Yes, it’s heavy…but when you get caught in a crosswind, or buffeting caused by road trains you’re going to appreciate the stability of the bike. I do a yearly trip to far North Queensland, over 10,000km in 12 days, and the bike is awesome to ride. I get mine serviced every month at the dealership I bought it from and they just laugh when the check the km. It doesn’t have the “grin factor” that my Tiger Sport 660 has, but I can’t do 1000km + days on the Triumph either. Seat is really comfortable and butt only starts getting numb around 800km mark. Great bike for the money.
@@mrrnigah643my friend rides a trk502. with him and his wife (their total weight 200kg minimum) on the bike they were able to go 147kph easily. He said that he wasnt even on full throttle.
I personally own a 250NK from CF Moto with over 52K kilometers on it, the last time I checked the valves all were still in spec (I checked them when the bike had 49k kilometers) never had issues with electronics nor engine, pretty happy with this brand to be honest.
Great to hear. I'm feeling best bike brand vibes. Being from china I feel is the only thing holding it back. Which to me is awesome. Just means I get choices at discount prices. Haven't bought a bike yet. But am looking at the 450 CLC, SRS and NK range for myself. But having no riding experience I'm torn between which styling is truly me. Think I might start by getting the kids a cx2e. Seeing them have fun might motivate me to make a choice.
my friend has bajaj boxer 150cc it lasted 160k before he just changed piston rings the thing is people in third world take care of their equapmint cause its valuable to them never rev the engine to high rpm change oil every 2k its just 1 liter 4 dollars bottle not a big deal that's why they last , Americans are the only people who would spend like 20000 dollars on a thing that they have no Idea how does it work and how to maintain it they are just consumers and often don't use their things enough they buy things and let it collect dust in the garag barley use it and when use it they beat the shit out of it like a children
Just got the 300NK from CFMOTO, man I'm loving it, I drove a 125cc bike for almost 3 years (Honda CB125F), and this machine feels really good all around
I had a Benelli TNT 125 for a couple of years and then switched to a TRK 502 X, 255 lbs to 518 lbs lol fell down 4 times from stopped, then got used to it and it's an incredible motorbike. Reached 11111 km today!
The CFMoto 300 NK is one of the few good quality bikes that get to Latin America for accessible prices. Most Japanese brands don't bother comercializing models with ABS, full LED lights, and good displays on the lower end, except in a few countries. Definitely what i'm aiming towards when i can afford it.
Nice, same for me, where are you from?, does cfmoto have good reputation in your country?, here in Costa Rica is somewhat marginal, but slowly getting acepted has good quality
@@jorgerivera6307 soy de Argentina. La marca esta aqui desde hace algunos años ya. Tiene buena reputacion entre los foros de mecanicos por su uso de buenos materiales, y muchos de sus repuestos son compartidos con motos KTM y con Honda, como los filtros de aire que son los mismos de la CB250 Twister. Lo unico que si me da cosita es que no tengo concesionarios cercanos para hacer valer la garantia, y que es dificil encontrar mecanicos que le entren a la parte electrónica de la moto, la cual tiene de sobra. Otros bloggers de paises como Chile, Colombia y demas hablan de experiencias similares. Algunos la tienen por muchos kilometros y el motor no se deprecia como usualmente se asocia con motos chinas. Otra marca muy bien tratada de entre las chinas es Voge, que viene de la mano de Loncin, aunque las Cfmoto son mas bonitas y mejor hechas en mi opinion.
Got 1500 miles on my 300NK, and loving the MPG life on it. It very nimbly weaves through Little Rock traffic, 7 miles one way, and is such a fun alternative to my 12mpg, but fun in a different way, Ram 1500. I am very soon getting the CLX700,or the 800NK next. The 700 is going as low as 4200 right now too.
I own a 2022 650NK and its great. Truly proper bike and my buddy that has an MT-09 rode it and he really liked it as well. Bought it brand new in November for 5300!!! I thought that was crazy and its been a great bike.
I have a Lifan KPX 250 which is a Chinese bike. I got it new for $2600 and i love it. I have put a little over 22,000 miles on it with no trouble so far. It is a dual sport and i always still get a smile on my face when riding it. That's what it is all about.
Benelli and QJ are both owned by Geely Holding Group. Geely also owns Volvo. I own a Geely car that was designed and engineered by Volvo engineers. The quality is just fantastic. There are some companies that are aware that Chinese products have a bad rap for being low quality. So they are making huge strides in quality by hiring engineers from reputable companies to improve their products. CFMoto has partnered with Japanese companies to make sure their products are of higher quality.
Fun fact the Police force of China uses CFmoto 650MT's and 800MT's and recently Greece's police force has ordered dozens of them also. If the popo is using them then they have got to be somewhat reliable.
@@eflanagan1921 That too but from what I hear from peeps that have bought these and put miles on them they have had no issues easy acces to parts if needed, service intervals okay. Dare I say it it's like buying a kawasaki. The 650MT is based on the Kawasaki Versys engine design and the 800MT I think it's the same as the KTM 790 Adventure. So ya value for money and also reliable. The big 4 just became the big 5 it seems.
@@nokia5359budget cuts have been kind of drastic though I think CFMoto isn’t a bad idea. Typically they use v-stroms and Hondas with the occasional aprilia. Honestly it’s good to see they are finally getting newer equipment as most of their vehicles are over 15 years old
Benelli is overall a great manufacture. Here in Europe they're pretty popular, especially the Trk 502 and Bn 125. Also please take a look at the 302s and 752s. They're absolutely fenomenal bikes, in some ways better than their non-chinese counterparts.
I rode the 800 leoncino and its really fun and good compare to mt07 or ninja 650. It has the ducati monster 821 vibe and was much better than cfmoto xcl700. Tho it specs are not that good.
I have a Benelli 302S that I basically stole from a local dealership as nobody wanted it, and I bought it with only 200 miles on the clock. Two and a half years and a couple thousand miles later, still a great bike with zero issues. All I’ve done to it are oil changes. I am very pleasantly surprised with it, especially considering what I paid for it.
6 years of riding a CFMoto 650nk to and from work every day , weekend thrashes and it's not had a major mechanical break down , the water pump springing a leak within warrenty has been all . I do all servicing on a regular basis myself and I am really impressed with this bike , 72 hp so it goes very well .
I am really happy for this video. Not all Chinese bikes are equal. Especially if they are build for a European brand that is responsible for the quality check as well. BMW, KTM, etc. I own a Benelli TRK 502X and I love it. A bit on the heavy side but it is also very stable. Has a great road presence that makes it safe. Car drivers actually see you. Also the dealership in Cyprus is amazing. I totally recommend it. I am not a new rider. I am 52 and I have a background of a lot of sport bikes (NSR 250R, ZXR400SP, ZZR600...) so I believe that my opinion has some value.
Late to the party, but if you stumble on motorcycle called Haojue, it is literally just a Suzuki. Same quality, love it or hate it depending on your taste, and slightly cheaper. That's because Haojue was licensed directly by Suzuki to manufacture many of their low-end motorcycle and have their expert QC senior engineers. Haojue, in turn, use a lot of Suzuki technology and design. And yes, you can even find Haojue Gixxer clone.
SEA? all I see is Honda Supra, Honda beat, Yamaha Nmax, or Yamaha MX King/Exciter everywhere. Rarely see Lifan. It's there but it's not that huge. Just exist and forgettable.
Bennelli 500 Rider in the US here, LOVE this little beast...just enough torque and power to be fun in the city and back roads, and still get you down the HW if you don't mind the slightly stiff tail turning your tailbone to dust. The 702 is not a beginner bike, it is the Adventure Bike you buy when you get divorced and she gets the BMW...you can even slap some badged boxes on the back and just block out the rest of the branding and only other BMW riders will know your pain and commiserate with you.
Zontes G1 125 ccm, spoke wheels - I just bought it for urban commuting for my partner. Spending like 3000+$ you get really ..... not joking .... high quality. Surprised?
I have a Lifan Xpect 200, at 63 just started riding again in 2021. Decided to get my license. This for 2100 was well worth the money. Well built. Great engine
You should check Zontes too, the 300cc (now they are 350cc) are pretty good for their price. I got the R310 (19 model) they look awesome and they seem to be OK.
@@victorrenevaldiviasoto9728 Just as good as Japanese bikes now in terms of quality and reliability, infact a lot of japanese manufactures make bikes in their chinese factories these days
if you buy a Chinese bike. Change the engine oil , run it for a few minutes , replace the oil and the filter and you are good to go . Replace the front fork oil , its usually cat piss , which in China is cheap
@@TheSunMoon Benelli, QJ Motor & CFMoto is the number 1 dominating China brand here. Me too own a Benelli. In terms of parts it's easier to aquire than Zontes.
I own a 2022 Venom KPR 200 made by Lifan and it’s a great motorcycle. Build quality is very good and reliability over the year that I’ve owned it has been outstanding. For a 200cc it does really well cruising around town or even hopping onto the interstate. Gas mileage has been great also, just an all around fun bike that I enjoy very much. I purchased it online from Venom motorsports and they have been great. Budget motorcycles may not be for everyone, Y noob included but for some of us they are a very viable option.
I’m heavily leaning towards a Venom Sportster 200, it’s $2000 and need something to learn on that I won’t be scared to scrape up. Is it essentially the same motor/transmission as the KPM 200?
@@SCIFIguy64 No it's not the same engine as the KPM200, it actually has a 223cc engine. I'm not really familiar with the venom sportster but venom has been good about taking care of their customers, and the sportster would probably be a good bike to learn on.
@@SCIFIguy64YES!! I literally just bought the 2022 VENOM SPORTSTER CHOPPER | 250CC MOTORCYCLE. Comes in in 2 weeks fully assembled. I never rode a bike before so wanted a nice cheap starter so we shall see.
The suzuki v strom 650 is so proven and for me seeing them going round the clock, you know its going to be better at 3 years old secondhand than a new benelli 502.
I’ve recently picked up the CFMoto 400GT as my second bike, and it’s perfect for me. Smooth and chill enough for riding comfortably in the streets, yet packs a decent punch on the highways.
If Chinese motorbikes are so bad as you insinuate, how come I see them doing very well all over Africa, the Middle East and many other parts of the world - in some of the toughest conditions imaginable. This reminds me of what western media was saying years back about Japanese products - and today, we don't see Land Rovers much. Toyota Land Cruisers are everywhere.
exactly. so bad that in Europe you can find them on every road. Voge, Kove, Benelli, Cf Moto, and now Qj 550x, 650x and some Zontes (I don't know Zontes so I can't judge especially since they only have small capacities and scooters in our country) The truth is that the companies I mentioned, except for Zontes which I simply don't know, make really good motorcycles that are not inferior to the Japanese and often have more accessories for which you have to pay extra
The Benda LFC 700 is worth a look too. It is an awesome "Cruiser" powered by an inline four cylinder 680cc motor that was derived from Honda. With a huge 310mm wide rear tyre, this machine looks like no other on the planet.
I have a Kove 510x adv. Engine like a Honda 500cc (498) 48hp 45nm. Ground clearance 220mm. Nissin two-piston front, two discs at the rear single-piston. Steel braided lines. 210mm Kayaba suspension with full adjustment at the rear the same 198mm with adjustment, 20l tank, fuel pump and ABS from Bosch and ABS can be turned off at the back or all. Two maps (eco and sport), on-board computer, tire pressure and temperature, navigation. Central stand, crash bars, crash pads and engine plate as standard, folding gearbox and set levers. USB and cigarette lighter socket 12v as standard. It drives very nicely, agile with a twist (for a motorcycle with only 48 HP). The gearbox is really great, works better than in many Japanese ones. Its younger brother 450cc, rode the Dakar which also says something. There is no problem with parts in Europe and there are also many dealers and the price is lower than the Honda NX500 which is without accessories. I am very happy and there are already motorcycles that have ridden 50k -80k km and do not behave differently than motorcycles from Japan. I think that a brand like Kove, cf moto, qj after making a reputation will be often seen on the roads in the States , there are already a lot of them in Europe... Sorry for my English but it is not my native language. Regards.
so I actually own a 700clx sport and I have to say; this bike is amazing, fun, reliable, and looks great. I've owned mine for abt 7-8 months now and it has treated me extremely well. I did have a unfortunate scenario happen just a month back though here a piece of metal was found in my long block just messing everything up so I had to get it replaced. so I had to do the break in period again but its running amazing now. with how cheap the bike is its so worth is adding on the gap insurance and getting the warranty to cover you aswell. as someone who got this bike for his first do i think its a good choice? yes absolutely, if you are looking for something thats in the budget of 6k or less with all the same tech as a 30k bike then i highly recommend it. as far as preformance goes though id say its a little slower than the mt07 and has less torque but still a great option!
You have it backwards, CFMoto makes the engine for KTM. So KTM is using a CFMoto engine. Hope that helps. Actually looking forward to the CFMoto NK800, which will be a Duke 790 but cheaper.
I live in Mexico, I hate the usual Chinese motorcycles, so I bought an unusual chinese (Benelli) Keeway Superlight, it is not that bad for someone who works 2 jobs and makes 15,000 USD a year, Imagine me buying a Fat boy, or an Indian Scout... I'd have to live on it or under it hahahaha! You are right, some of us are gonna buy them anyway, I'll wait for when I finish paying for my mortgage to buy a Scout, in about 10 years, I am 37 next month, by then, they should cost around 5,000 USD I plan to buy a 2015-ish scout or an HD forty-eight. I am not on the uneducated percentage of Mexican population, who are poor just for the sake of being poor, we just do not make as much as we wish, sometimes they say Harleys are for Dentists and retired people... where's my Harley???!!! I am an actual dentist! hahahaha
If I remember correctly Benelli Armi S.p.A. is an Italian firearm manufacturer located in Urbino, Marche, Italy. Founded in 1967 as an offshoot of the Benelli motorcycle factory that sold motorcycles through Montgomery Ward, Benelli and Benelli USA have been owned by Pietro Beretta SpA since 2000.
Voge is also a pretty cool chinese manufacturer having also constructed parts for big vompanies for example BMW. The Voge 500ds is a pretty cool and seemingly reliable ADV bike.
Voge (Loncin) are making excellent bikes, and when the 900 hits the European market, Yamaha, Honda and BMW sales will be hit. I have the 650dsx and engineering wise it’s great value for money and fun to ride. You made a good point and I feel Voge should have been included but the video seemed to centralise on Benelli.
As a chinese here, here are my personal recommended models if you wanna try chinese brands: CF moto: 450 SR (sports), 800MT (ADV/Touring), NK450/CLX700 (Street) Beneli: TRK 502 (ADV/Touring), 752 (cruise) Kove: 450 RR (Sports), 800X (ADV/offroad) Not recommending QJ moto bikes as they are bad for quality in general. I would vote for Kove with extra credit as the brand is really investing heavily on innovation and manufacturing their own stuff, the new 450RR parts/engine is really fantastic
@@i-am-learning-life I would rank Zonte as Tier 2 brands as their engine quality may not be consistent from one to the other, can give a try for their Scooter 350D.
@@FernovVoge 300rr was popular like 2-3 yrs ago where not many manufacturers in the market ( their bike quality slightly better than others in old days). The engine is a reverse engineering from Kawasaki 300cc engine by manufacturer called Loncin.
I have a CFMOTO 450SS as my first bike. I can’t say much because I’m so new but everyone who sees it absolutely falls in love. Maybe a check on this or the 300SS would be a cool thing to look into!
@@jtec99 oh yeah I love the look, there are many added features into it that help you from buying added accessories some of the people where showing me. I think so far it’s really great, but then again this is my first so I’m in love haha.
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights lmao well idk how else to say it to make it seem legit. “This bike is fucking badass bro, this is not a Chinese user at all!” 😂
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights I’d add a picture of YT was cool but it doesn’t allow that. But, I guess for a good reason 😂 I’m not chatGPT either so yeah 🤘🏽👍🏽
I have a egl 300 cc dirtbike With 31 hp and really good torque for 240 pounds and findable parts its nice If I would describe in a non specs sheet nerd way Its lightweight the low end and high end is good for a longer stroke engine and I can rev it like crazy and it doesn't blow up on me and a nice suspension adjust and it feels quite different I love that the front end is light weigh and it wheelies very easily
isnt zontes there in the states? here in Spain they sell 125 and 350cc bikes with loads of technology, good styling and much lower price than brands such as KTM, yamaha, etc
I got the CF Moto ADVentura 650MT and for the price I don’t feel like I could’ve done better. A similar Japanese bike would’ve cost 50% more money and I still don’t think that it would’ve had all the features this bike has. I feel like bikes are way overpriced and I don’t want to pay for a bike what I paid for my car- it’s gotta be way less and with CF moto I feel like I’m getting my moneys worth. I’ve had many bikes in the past and the build quality is just as good as the Japanese bikes I’ve had. So far I’ve had zero issues with the bike it’s been stone reliable.
@@maalikserebryakov Look, if you have deep pockets and you can buy high end Euro bikes that's fine, no need to buy inferior Chinese bikes . I ride higher end bikes because they are within my budget However, if that's what you can afford.....use one and upgrade when you can.
No CSC? The California based company has been selling Chinese motorcycles for the best part of a decade and making a good name for themselves. All their bikes are made by Zongshen in China, and rebadged as CSC. Their small adventure bikes, RX3 and RX4, have gathered a lot of praise, and now they're selling the newer model, RX6. Definitely check them out.
@@worthy_escapes i think they represent Zongshen in the US. CSC does no development on the bikes other than naming and branding. I think it definitely qualifies as a Chinese bike.
@@RideWithRen The PR guy for CSC does have a tendency to be a jerk to critical reviewers, such as eveRide. He came to the conclusion that the RX3 is by far not ideal for Offroad riding due to it's lack of power and it's suspension. He did say that as a commuter, it's fine. He merely said that it is not the game changer some thought it to be. In response to this review, CSC's PR guy relentlessly slandered eveRide and dragged his name through the mud, until people started boycotting the company. Only then did he apologise.
Bn 125 is a very popular beginner bike, and TRK502 is also very popular. Every motorcycle show you go to now, 60% of the bikes are Chinese. They are taking over. All CF moto bikes are cool, but a bit expensive.
i live in Belize and to be honest the Lifan brand of Chinese motorcycles are known to be quite reliable here they get the crap beat out of em and just keep going especially the ones with the Cg engine clone that uses a pushrod system and not timing chains they are crazy durable.
I think hear in the UK most 125 bike's are Chinese and they aren't doing to bad like lexmoto and zontes they are holding their value well I mean there 40 percent cheaper so when they get sold people aren't really loosing that much money percent wise there holding their value better than I thought they would bigger displacement I can't comment as there aren't many Chinese bike's available except CF moto
Should have mentioned the Keeway sub brand MBP. I have a MBP M502N and until now have nothing to complain about it. They are releasing a lot of new models soon
That's too wired, a sub brand, but actually a better quality one from a sub brand of Benelli, which is a sub brand of qj motors.. But it's actually a better version of the Honda cb 500 in every shape or form! A wasted opportunity, because Keeway succeed where Benelli didn't, cheap naked bikes. MBP is a more expensive Keeway, it's basically without purpose or meaning. If i choose Keeway, it's because of it's untouchable asked price to value ratio, not because it's supposed to be better than x or y.. Rkf 500 needs to be born, as a natural upgrade for those millions of squids, MBP is just another voge 500.
Man you missed the specs on the Ibex 800T. It makes the same HP and Torque as the 790 Adventure... 94HP and 54 ft./lbs torque. CFMOTO is building the engines for the new 790 Adventure and the new 790 Duke.
CFmoto is being served in UAE Dubai as rental bikes for the desert and believe me they are worth it since I see everyone who rents one trying to destroys it 😂
I had a Benelli TnT 1130 Triple naked bike for 1 day back in 2007. I had made a deal trading in my Ducati Monster and rode home on a fabulous looking 1130 Triple in bright green. After riding it just 30 kms, I was back at the dealer demanding my Monster back - while that Benelli was fast and powerful, the gearbox was complete garbage. Missed shifts with false neutrals, and absolutely impossible to find the real neutral when stopping. Even with the engine off, rocking the bike trying to find neutral was almost impossible. The dealer tried riding around the lot, and in two minutes agreed to take it back, refund my money, and return my Ducati. It cost a few bucks to unwind the paperwork, but it was worth it. Months later, that same bike still sat in the showroom...of course, that was an Italian made bike.
i remember when i was riding my little moped, no one else were, i was like the first ever person around my town and surrounding towns lol. i went everywhere with my moped, even up to the mountains lol. it was a kymco ZX-50. that little 50cc was a beast and the whole bike itself was built with exceptional quality... i obviously progress to motorcycles but that little kymco zx50 was like the first girl that you'll never forget... not all chinese product is junk.
I've been watching yaminoob vids for years on and off but haven't liked or subscribed to the channel until this video. This was probably not paid for buy OEMs but so honest in bringing up the conversation of global manufacturing. Everyone's favorite new bikes are made using these design and build techniques. Really cool exposure to some more legit Chinese brands.
Recently bought a Leoncino 500 2020, and man does it both look and ride beautifully, hopefully, the long-term quality will be reliable as I have found multiple bikes with well over 50.000KM for sale used. Wish me luck
CFmoto, Benelli, Zongsheng, Lifan are sold all around the world and have quite reliable small/medium bikes. Unlike the US market which prefer to have gas guzzling, insane horsepower vehicles. The little trade war between the China and US also keeps the Chinese auto industry out of the US whereas its gaining market share all around the globe.
I could say, most if not all good chinese bike recommended in this video, has lesser build quality than other Japanese, continental or even India built brands like Bajaj, KTM 390 and BMW 310. The evidence at least to my eyes and personal testing on the bikes are shallower plastic fairings which feels light (the low quality light, not carbon like), signal stalks that break too soon (same issue as the fairings) and mechanical issue / assembly issue. Its kinda like you expect these kind of issues will happen to 3 or 4 years old bikes but it happen to 1 to 2 years old chinese bikes. So depend on the pricing and your inclination to learn fixing a bike yourself, its still worth buying but there's also much more great option in used market from japanese bike although they're probably too boring. At lease bikes from Benelli has great sound especially those with parallel twin engine like Leoncino and TRK.
I live in Beijing, I paid about $4,900 for a brand new HaoJue TR300 cruiser. Uses a Suzuki engine. This bike is damn near bullet proof, starts first time, every time, even at -15 C in winter. A full year of riding, and all it needed was the regular oil changes.
haojue has the best reliability among all, they produce all the bullet proof gsxr 250 in the world. but they have 0 innovation their own bikes are reliable small cc vanillas.
@@eflanagan1921 yes, they have a 150% import tax. But a lot of companies will do final assembly in China to avoid the tax. My bike was only about 35000RMB (€4000)
Since very few people are mentioning it, please take a look at Zontes. They are appearing alot here in Europe, personally the 125cc naked model is better than the benelli one (we have both at home).
Yup, Zontes is premium quality Chinese bike, picking up the pace with Honda and Yamaha, started to see them appearing in Europe. Currently looking at G1 as a tempting purchase.
I’ve got a 650nk from CFMOTO, bought it in September of 2022, currently sitting just shy of 11k miles, no issues out of it. I’m even planning on loading it down and taking it to key west (roughly 900 miles away from my house). Looking forward to seeing some market breakthrough.
Yeah, I'm enjoying my 650nk also. Not as punchy as I was hoping BUT!!! It's a lot faster, torquier and stable than I thought it was going to be. Definitely a great bike.
@@tyrant1178 I agree, after a few months of riding it as a daily, I understood it’s strong points were stop light to stop light, but I have a roughly 50mi round trip commute, so I’ve learned to deal with the shortcomings of it and assumedly all naked bikes
@@ianmoore1312 oh I get that. My commute is only about 15 to 20 minutes but all highway. I think a lot of the negative opinions unfortunately come from the pre break in period. Because I can definitely say my bike came right to life after about 1000 miles
@@tyrant1178 I know exactly what you mean. Btw if you are looking for a good windscreen to make the commute a little less of a beating the PUIG Rafael looks absolutely gorgeous on the bike.
Part of the marketing is to let good dealers, riders, etc test the cycles, these tests are used for upgrade the quality. They did it with EV and for ex Guitars (my business) Guitars from China are affordable and damned well, every year better and better.
In the end, you can check the bikes available in Europe (in France?). I guess the pretty strict legislation (and the Euro5 standard) only let the ok bikes get to the shelves. You can only find Chinese brands such as CFMoto, Benelli, Moto Morini or Voge here. All seem to be decent (nonetheless, we lack the long term feedbacks).
Benelli TRK251 owner here from malaysia...2 years of ownership...easy and cheap to maintain...17liter of petrol tank..just minor issue here and there...nothing serious...engine it self reliable so far...now 41k km on odo...
Cfmoto clx 700 sport is nice as well just bought a 2022 for $4999 as they’re making way for the 2023’s they have dual front disc with Brembo stylema calipers and most of the same stuff as the heritage model otherwise
I'm strongly considering a CFMoto clx-700 Heritage for my next bike. They have are actually very comfortable to ride, while still being more upright in the seating (a big plus for me).
As an Italian I can confirm this. Benelli has become a "known" and commonly sold motorcycle. With now a lot dealers all over and they seem pretty reliable (not japan level...but good enough ) and good looking. I think in part the name/brand played an important part, in the sense that even if a Chinese producer did make good motorcycles, that wouldn't be enough without the italian name/brand behind it. If I were to say I have a Benelli in Italy it's like "ok", however if I were to say I have a "ching chung chang" (any chinese name) the reaction would be negative and "what is that?" regardless of how good the motorcyle actually is. So it has to do with both the quality, but believe it or not, even just the name/brand behind it.
The Chinese made Harley is being used for their msf course at the Harley dealership I live next to in Omaha. They don't sell them but they are definitely using them as their training bikes.
@Kaitlyn Kenyon I can't speak to the quality of the bikes. The only way to get your hands on one is to take the MSF course. Don't want to do that again just for a parking lot ride.
i owned benelli tnt25 such a sweet bike, reliable aswell i had it for 6 years it aged so well i had to sale it, till end it rocked same engine no problem whatsoever. I only once checked top speed which was 151km/h. which is decent for 250cc
The TRK502 has a X variant Spoked wheels. Aluminium cases(3pieces) and longer suspension for mild offroading Like 600-700€ extra. Just for looks imo Some dealers sell em with the X package for sub 6k Heavy, yes. Fast, no. Good enough for most riders that want a long distance bike for cheap and new, yes And some ppl want a that GS look
The CFMoto 450 SR will soon replace the Ninja 400, R3 and RC390. Really solid bike for cheaper than any of these mentioned above. It's not about the bike... It's about the rider... so why not sharpen your riding ability for a smidge of the price. Forget the labels.
Green light for the Leoncino. Owned and tortured before buying a Rebel, my definitive ride. It’s in some way even better than the Rebel and it’s 100% reliable. Issues: lights are WEAK if you ride at night, i would have loved better plastic on the tail, plastic on the arrow is real sh*it and tend to curve with heat and use Other than that and some excess Kg, it’s GREAT
Took my license on a rebel 500, and recently bought the Leoncino and I will say the same in some ways it does actually feel better than the rebel. However, the rebel is still my definitive ride too (when i can afford one)
Yammie would love to see you do a review on the cfmoto 450sr I went and see one in person in australia and it looked amazing tbh for a small sports bike.
Benelli Tnt600 rider here. Got it last year as my first motorcycle, and other then the weight (just under 500 lbs) I have no complaints. Will probably get one more season before upgrading and turning into a spare/track bike.
Funny the second i seen this title i said the tnt 600 better be in here and this was the first comment i seen😂. I wanted one but theyre rare so i ride my hawk 250 dual sport
Yea they do seem to be rare lol, which is why I’ll never get rid of it. I’m the only person in my area with one, and not a lot of naked bike riders around here, so it’s unique enough to turn heads. The exhaust note is pretty nice as well.
I remember Benelli and Garelli from the 1976, when a friend owns a Benelli and I a Garelli. We bought it because of the pricing. Others were 3 times more expensive and upgrading to 50 cc, is a motor, was very easy. However....if you drove a day, next day you needed to check your bolts...it was possible your cycle fall apart 🤣🤣
Zontes 703F ZONTES 703RR Zontes 703T Zontes 703R They are crying in the corner, the strongest Chinese brand ever has been underestimated, which will take on a very large part of the market if it continues with this amazing power, for example their last adventure bike 703F It is a very powerful bike with a power of about 100 horsepower and more than 75 Nm of torque and a maximum speed of more than 230 km per hour. This bike is superior to all bikes in its class. In terms of strength In terms of equipment, with front and rear cameras, blind spot warnings, a 7-inch screen that contains the Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, and many more wonderful technologies.
Yeah great every machine looks perfect when new..but put 20k plus miles on a Chinese bike and then come and tell me you made a bloody expensive mistake buying one in the first place😁😁😁
Nothing wrong with CF Moto bikes. The quality is as good as any Suzuki from Japan. The new 450 is really good and the NK 650 very good value for money.
I own a Benelli TNT249S 3 years now and albeit being on the heavy side at 200kgs wet weight, the ride is very pleasant. Not fast for a 250 but then again it's a naked bike
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Should've added Benelli TNT 600 papa yams
NK400 bro it's very famous here in PH because 400cc is the minimum requirements for you to be able to enter expressway.
You forgot Zontes
i want to win, i only have 125cc china bike for 11 years.
The bike you forgot was the new Moto Morini ADV Bike.
I live in Melbourne, Australia. I bought a Benelli TRK 502X new 18 months ago. I’ve done 117,000 km on this bike with little trouble. Yes, it’s heavy…but when you get caught in a crosswind, or buffeting caused by road trains you’re going to appreciate the stability of the bike. I do a yearly trip to far North Queensland, over 10,000km in 12 days, and the bike is awesome to ride. I get mine serviced every month at the dealership I bought it from and they just laugh when the check the km. It doesn’t have the “grin factor” that my Tiger Sport 660 has, but I can’t do 1000km + days on the Triumph either. Seat is really comfortable and butt only starts getting numb around 800km mark. Great bike for the money.
What was the top speed you got on it ( I know silly question but ?)? And is maintenance cheap?
@@mrrnigah643my friend rides a trk502. with him and his wife (their total weight 200kg minimum) on the bike they were able to go 147kph easily. He said that he wasnt even on full throttle.
@@mrrnigah643 do the maintenance stop being lazy its a bike not truck
To be fully honest, Benelli is probably more reliable now than when it was Italian
This dude probably owns a benelli
Eyyy we made them to go fast not to last.
Not hard.
That's a very low bar
Believe me CFmoto has better quality then Qj or benelli
I personally own a 250NK from CF Moto with over 52K kilometers on it, the last time I checked the valves all were still in spec (I checked them when the bike had 49k kilometers) never had issues with electronics nor engine, pretty happy with this brand to be honest.
Great to hear.
I'm feeling best bike brand vibes. Being from china I feel is the only thing holding it back. Which to me is awesome. Just means I get choices at discount prices.
Haven't bought a bike yet.
But am looking at the 450 CLC, SRS and NK range for myself. But having no riding experience I'm torn between which styling is truly me.
Think I might start by getting the kids a cx2e. Seeing them have fun might motivate me to make a choice.
does the exhaust make buzzing sounds that make the bike vibrate?
my friend has bajaj boxer 150cc it lasted 160k before he just changed piston rings the thing is people in third world take care of their equapmint cause its valuable to them never rev the engine to high rpm change oil every 2k its just 1 liter 4 dollars bottle not a big deal that's why they last , Americans are the only people who would spend like 20000 dollars on a thing that they have no Idea how does it work and how to maintain it they are just consumers and often don't use their things enough they buy things and let it collect dust in the garag barley use it and when use it they beat the shit out of it like a children
@@ercanyesiltas It does, unfortunately
@@sebastianlemus8377 thats the single most annoying thing on this bike
Just got the 300NK from CFMOTO, man I'm loving it, I drove a 125cc bike for almost 3 years (Honda CB125F), and this machine feels really good all around
I had a Benelli TNT 125 for a couple of years and then switched to a TRK 502 X, 255 lbs to 518 lbs lol fell down 4 times from stopped, then got used to it and it's an incredible motorbike. Reached 11111 km today!
The CFMoto 300 NK is one of the few good quality bikes that get to Latin America for accessible prices. Most Japanese brands don't bother comercializing models with ABS, full LED lights, and good displays on the lower end, except in a few countries. Definitely what i'm aiming towards when i can afford it.
Nice, same for me, where are you from?, does cfmoto have good reputation in your country?, here in Costa Rica is somewhat marginal, but slowly getting acepted has good quality
@@jorgerivera6307 soy de Argentina. La marca esta aqui desde hace algunos años ya. Tiene buena reputacion entre los foros de mecanicos por su uso de buenos materiales, y muchos de sus repuestos son compartidos con motos KTM y con Honda, como los filtros de aire que son los mismos de la CB250 Twister. Lo unico que si me da cosita es que no tengo concesionarios cercanos para hacer valer la garantia, y que es dificil encontrar mecanicos que le entren a la parte electrónica de la moto, la cual tiene de sobra. Otros bloggers de paises como Chile, Colombia y demas hablan de experiencias similares. Algunos la tienen por muchos kilometros y el motor no se deprecia como usualmente se asocia con motos chinas. Otra marca muy bien tratada de entre las chinas es Voge, que viene de la mano de Loncin, aunque las Cfmoto son mas bonitas y mejor hechas en mi opinion.
Got 1500 miles on my 300NK, and loving the MPG life on it. It very nimbly weaves through Little Rock traffic, 7 miles one way, and is such a fun alternative to my 12mpg, but fun in a different way, Ram 1500. I am very soon getting the CLX700,or the 800NK next. The 700 is going as low as 4200 right now too.
In my country
It's just an overpriced bike
It cost like Duke 390 but is weaker than Duke 250
@@jerrybhai3362 let me guess, colombia or brazil, not trying to mock you, just geniunely trying to guess the market
I own a 2022 650NK and its great. Truly proper bike and my buddy that has an MT-09 rode it and he really liked it as well. Bought it brand new in November for 5300!!! I thought that was crazy and its been a great bike.
I have a Lifan KPX 250 which is a Chinese bike. I got it new for $2600 and i love it. I have put a little over 22,000 miles on it with no trouble so far. It is a dual sport and i always still get a smile on my face when riding it. That's what it is all about.
I have about 1000 miles on my Lifan X-pect 200, paid $2200. Zero trouble. Excellent mileage. Fast enough. Absolutely worth what I paid.
Benelli and QJ are both owned by Geely Holding Group. Geely also owns Volvo. I own a Geely car that was designed and engineered by Volvo engineers. The quality is just fantastic. There are some companies that are aware that Chinese products have a bad rap for being low quality. So they are making huge strides in quality by hiring engineers from reputable companies to improve their products. CFMoto has partnered with Japanese companies to make sure their products are of higher quality.
Fun fact the Police force of China uses CFmoto 650MT's and 800MT's and recently Greece's police force has ordered dozens of them also. If the popo is using them then they have got to be somewhat reliable.
Politics not engineering steer purchases,
@@eflanagan1921 That too but from what I hear from peeps that have bought these and put miles on them they have had no issues easy acces to parts if needed, service intervals okay. Dare I say it it's like buying a kawasaki. The 650MT is based on the Kawasaki Versys engine design and the 800MT I think it's the same as the KTM 790 Adventure. So ya value for money and also reliable. The big 4 just became the big 5 it seems.
KTM reliable ??? LOL
i knew Greece is in deep shiet but this much troubles ?
@@nokia5359budget cuts have been kind of drastic though I think CFMoto isn’t a bad idea. Typically they use v-stroms and Hondas with the occasional aprilia. Honestly it’s good to see they are finally getting newer equipment as most of their vehicles are over 15 years old
Benelli is overall a great manufacture. Here in Europe they're pretty popular, especially the Trk 502 and Bn 125. Also please take a look at the 302s and 752s. They're absolutely fenomenal bikes, in some ways better than their non-chinese counterparts.
I got a tnt300 as my first bike and fell in love, such a unique motorcycle and definitely underappreciated.
What u prefer cb500x or trk502?
I rode the 800 leoncino and its really fun and good compare to mt07 or ninja 650. It has the ducati monster 821 vibe and was much better than cfmoto xcl700. Tho it specs are not that good.
I have a benelli vlx 157cc which is good though
Would you guys recommend the 302s over a Gixxer 250? I'm researching where to spend my hard earned moneyz
What costs$2 an hour to build in China costs $100 an hour to fix in USA.
I have a Benelli 302S that I basically stole from a local dealership as nobody wanted it, and I bought it with only 200 miles on the clock. Two and a half years and a couple thousand miles later, still a great bike with zero issues. All I’ve done to it are oil changes. I am very pleasantly surprised with it, especially considering what I paid for it.
I bought a 2023 benelli 302s in March 2023 I have almost 10k miles on mine with zero problems
6 years of riding a CFMoto 650nk to and from work every day , weekend thrashes and it's not had a major mechanical break down , the water pump springing a leak within warrenty has been all .
I do all servicing on a regular basis myself and I am really impressed with this bike , 72 hp so it goes very well .
A licensed Kawasaki 650 twin engine
I am really happy for this video. Not all Chinese bikes are equal. Especially if they are build for a European brand that is responsible for the quality check as well. BMW, KTM, etc. I own a Benelli TRK 502X and I love it. A bit on the heavy side but it is also very stable. Has a great road presence that makes it safe. Car drivers actually see you. Also the dealership in Cyprus is amazing. I totally recommend it. I am not a new rider. I am 52 and I have a background of a lot of sport bikes (NSR 250R, ZXR400SP, ZZR600...) so I believe that my opinion has some value.
Which Chinese brand builds BMW?
@@gigihanmandarin Voge.
@@gigihanmandarin
Voge.
KTM is connected with CFMOTO.
Benelli is connected with QJMotors.
Late to the party, but if you stumble on motorcycle called Haojue, it is literally just a Suzuki. Same quality, love it or hate it depending on your taste, and slightly cheaper. That's because Haojue was licensed directly by Suzuki to manufacture many of their low-end motorcycle and have their expert QC senior engineers. Haojue, in turn, use a lot of Suzuki technology and design. And yes, you can even find Haojue Gixxer clone.
Lifan is HUGE here in Bangladesh and south-east Asia region.
Their engines are rebranded everywhere as various chinese brands.
SEA? all I see is Honda Supra, Honda beat, Yamaha Nmax, or Yamaha MX King/Exciter everywhere. Rarely see Lifan. It's there but it's not that huge. Just exist and forgettable.
@@literallyhuman5990 Philippines not sure about other SEA. We have many Honda CG-125 and TMX 155 copies here, and scooter copies too.
I have Lifan LF 250b from 2009 and i have 130k km :)
Bennelli 500 Rider in the US here, LOVE this little beast...just enough torque and power to be fun in the city and back roads, and still get you down the HW if you don't mind the slightly stiff tail turning your tailbone to dust. The 702 is not a beginner bike, it is the Adventure Bike you buy when you get divorced and she gets the BMW...you can even slap some badged boxes on the back and just block out the rest of the branding and only other BMW riders will know your pain and commiserate with you.
Bought a 90 cc Munster built in china ,10 yrs of abuse in,it has had two wheel bearings 1 chain and few back tyres ,fun little road bike
Zontes G1 125 ccm, spoke wheels - I just bought it for urban commuting for my partner. Spending like 3000+$ you get really ..... not joking .... high quality. Surprised?
@ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇs ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ👉@MrYammie_noob👈 Yeah, i ride one to, best money I ever spent on an everyday bike city
I have a Lifan Xpect 200, at 63 just started riding again in 2021. Decided to get my license. This for 2100 was well worth the money. Well built. Great engine
I recently bought a CF Moto 650NK and I’m very shocked of how well it’s built, it’s quick for what it is and rides absolutely smooth
You should check Zontes too, the 300cc (now they are 350cc) are pretty good for their price. I got the R310 (19 model) they look awesome and they seem to be OK.
Their models look neeeat in person, but I would wait a little to learn more about their quality
@@victorrenevaldiviasoto9728 Just as good as Japanese bikes now in terms of quality and reliability, infact a lot of japanese manufactures make bikes in their chinese factories these days
Planning to change my SYm NXH 125 for a Zontes ZT310-V
Zontes t310 is value for money
@@Konstantinio I was pleasantly surprise by their build quality at the agency
I have the trk502 for 4 years and i only change the engine oil and filter . It’s an awesome bike
if you buy a Chinese bike. Change the engine oil , run it for a few minutes , replace the oil and the filter and you are good to go . Replace the front fork oil , its usually cat piss , which in China is cheap
In Singapore, we have another Chinese bike manufacturer that's being imported, Zontes. Their bikes have good reviews too.
Nobody bats an eye on Zontes here in Malaysia 😂
@@azizuladha8201 cus there have many more options than here 🥲 and price not handicapped by COE
@@TheSunMoon Benelli, QJ Motor & CFMoto is the number 1 dominating China brand here. Me too own a Benelli. In terms of parts it's easier to aquire than Zontes.
i own ZONTES and its very good bike im loving it
We also have zontes in Greece. The gk is reported to have electrical issues while g155 is reported to be a gook bike
I own a 2022 Venom KPR 200 made by Lifan and it’s a great motorcycle. Build quality is very good and reliability over the year that I’ve owned it has been outstanding. For a 200cc it does really well cruising around town or even hopping onto the interstate. Gas mileage has been great also, just an all around fun bike that I enjoy very much. I purchased it online from Venom motorsports and they have been great. Budget motorcycles may not be for everyone, Y noob included but for some of us they are a very viable option.
I’m heavily leaning towards a Venom Sportster 200, it’s $2000 and need something to learn on that I won’t be scared to scrape up. Is it essentially the same motor/transmission as the KPM 200?
@@SCIFIguy64 No it's not the same engine as the KPM200, it actually has a 223cc engine. I'm not really familiar with the venom sportster but venom has been good about taking care of their customers, and the sportster would probably be a good bike to learn on.
@@SCIFIguy64YES!! I literally just bought the 2022 VENOM SPORTSTER CHOPPER | 250CC MOTORCYCLE. Comes in in 2 weeks fully assembled. I never rode a bike before so wanted a nice cheap starter so we shall see.
@@Vasquez19781 Awesome Vasquez! Congratulations on the new bike? I hope you have a lot of good times on it.
The suzuki v strom 650 is so proven and for me seeing them going round the clock, you know its going to be better at 3 years old secondhand than a new benelli 502.
CFMoto also has 450 & 300 sport bikes for the beginner track riders
I think I'd rather buy a Benelli shotgun...
Glad cfmoto got mentioned here
From a person who owned cfmoto 450sr (rr if you're Western)
I’ve recently picked up the CFMoto 400GT as my second bike, and it’s perfect for me. Smooth and chill enough for riding comfortably in the streets, yet packs a decent punch on the highways.
If Chinese motorbikes are so bad as you insinuate, how come I see them doing very well all over Africa, the Middle East and many other parts of the world - in some of the toughest conditions imaginable.
This reminds me of what western media was saying years back about Japanese products - and today, we don't see Land Rovers much. Toyota Land Cruisers are everywhere.
exactly. so bad that in Europe you can find them on every road. Voge, Kove, Benelli, Cf Moto, and now Qj 550x, 650x and some Zontes (I don't know Zontes so I can't judge especially since they only have small capacities and scooters in our country) The truth is that the companies I mentioned, except for Zontes which I simply don't know, make really good motorcycles that are not inferior to the Japanese and often have more accessories for which you have to pay extra
Honorable mention to CFMOTO 450SS. Hopefully picking one up soon❤
They have an ADV touring version now
Just saw the Ibex 800 T and The 800s in person. Don't care what anyone says... They're fuqin nice.
KTM engine
The Benda LFC 700 is worth a look too. It is an awesome "Cruiser" powered by an inline four cylinder 680cc motor that was derived from Honda. With a huge 310mm wide rear tyre, this machine looks like no other on the planet.
Yes, a beautiful bike !.Will buy one if landed in my country !
I have a Kove 510x adv. Engine like a Honda 500cc (498) 48hp 45nm. Ground clearance 220mm. Nissin two-piston front, two discs at the rear single-piston. Steel braided lines. 210mm Kayaba suspension with full adjustment at the rear the same 198mm with adjustment, 20l tank, fuel pump and ABS from Bosch and ABS can be turned off at the back or all. Two maps (eco and sport), on-board computer, tire pressure and temperature, navigation. Central stand, crash bars, crash pads and engine plate as standard, folding gearbox and set levers. USB and cigarette lighter socket 12v as standard. It drives very nicely, agile with a twist (for a motorcycle with only 48 HP). The gearbox is really great, works better than in many Japanese ones. Its younger brother 450cc, rode the Dakar which also says something. There is no problem with parts in Europe and there are also many dealers and the price is lower than the Honda NX500 which is without accessories. I am very happy and there are already motorcycles that have ridden 50k -80k km and do not behave differently than motorcycles from Japan. I think that a brand like Kove, cf moto, qj after making a reputation will be often seen on the roads in the States , there are already a lot of them in Europe... Sorry for my English but it is not my native language. Regards.
so I actually own a 700clx sport and I have to say; this bike is amazing, fun, reliable, and looks great. I've owned mine for abt 7-8 months now and it has treated me extremely well. I did have a unfortunate scenario happen just a month back though here a piece of metal was found in my long block just messing everything up so I had to get it replaced. so I had to do the break in period again but its running amazing now. with how cheap the bike is its so worth is adding on the gap insurance and getting the warranty to cover you aswell. as someone who got this bike for his first do i think its a good choice? yes absolutely, if you are looking for something thats in the budget of 6k or less with all the same tech as a 30k bike then i highly recommend it. as far as preformance goes though id say its a little slower than the mt07 and has less torque but still a great option!
You have it backwards, CFMoto makes the engine for KTM. So KTM is using a CFMoto engine. Hope that helps. Actually looking forward to the CFMoto NK800, which will be a Duke 790 but cheaper.
I live in Mexico, I hate the usual Chinese motorcycles, so I bought an unusual chinese (Benelli) Keeway Superlight, it is not that bad for someone who works 2 jobs and makes 15,000 USD a year, Imagine me buying a Fat boy, or an Indian Scout... I'd have to live on it or under it hahahaha!
You are right, some of us are gonna buy them anyway, I'll wait for when I finish paying for my mortgage to buy a Scout, in about 10 years, I am 37 next month, by then, they should cost around 5,000 USD I plan to buy a 2015-ish scout or an HD forty-eight.
I am not on the uneducated percentage of Mexican population, who are poor just for the sake of being poor, we just do not make as much as we wish, sometimes they say Harleys are for Dentists and retired people... where's my Harley???!!! I am an actual dentist! hahahaha
If this video doesn't include Loncin motors I'll riot...
come on, even chinese are making sideeye towards Loncin motorcycles ,they are nothing but making shit motorcycle
If I remember correctly Benelli Armi S.p.A. is an Italian firearm manufacturer located in Urbino, Marche, Italy. Founded in 1967 as an offshoot of the Benelli motorcycle factory that sold motorcycles through Montgomery Ward, Benelli and Benelli USA have been owned by Pietro Beretta SpA since 2000.
I own a benelli bn125, and i can say nothing wrong about it, it's great, and doesn't cost much
Voge is also a pretty cool chinese manufacturer having also constructed parts for big vompanies for example BMW. The Voge 500ds is a pretty cool and seemingly reliable ADV bike.
Voge (Loncin) are making excellent bikes, and when the 900 hits the European market, Yamaha, Honda and BMW sales will be hit. I have the 650dsx and engineering wise it’s great value for money and fun to ride. You made a good point and I feel Voge should have been included but the video seemed to centralise on Benelli.
As a chinese here, here are my personal recommended models if you wanna try chinese brands:
CF moto: 450 SR (sports), 800MT (ADV/Touring), NK450/CLX700 (Street)
Beneli: TRK 502 (ADV/Touring), 752 (cruise)
Kove: 450 RR (Sports), 800X (ADV/offroad)
Not recommending QJ moto bikes as they are bad for quality in general. I would vote for Kove with extra credit as the brand is really investing heavily on innovation and manufacturing their own stuff, the new 450RR parts/engine is really fantastic
How about zontes?
@@i-am-learning-life I would rank Zonte as Tier 2 brands as their engine quality may not be consistent from one to the other, can give a try for their Scooter 350D.
@@jw8767what about voge 300rr?
I recently bought a localized version of dayang vorei 150. I have had 1100 kms on it and I'm pretty happy about it. How it is recepted in China?
@@FernovVoge 300rr was popular like 2-3 yrs ago where not many manufacturers in the market ( their bike quality slightly better than others in old days). The engine is a reverse engineering from Kawasaki 300cc engine by manufacturer called Loncin.
I have a CFMOTO 450SS as my first bike. I can’t say much because I’m so new but everyone who sees it absolutely falls in love. Maybe a check on this or the 300SS would be a cool thing to look into!
Saw it today. May be the nicest "entry level" sport bike I've ever seen.
@@jtec99 oh yeah I love the look, there are many added features into it that help you from buying added accessories some of the people where showing me. I think so far it’s really great, but then again this is my first so I’m in love haha.
@@EdwardGarciaTV This reads like fake payed bs.
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights lmao well idk how else to say it to make it seem legit. “This bike is fucking badass bro, this is not a Chinese user at all!” 😂
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights I’d add a picture of YT was cool but it doesn’t allow that. But, I guess for a good reason 😂 I’m not chatGPT either so yeah 🤘🏽👍🏽
Dang he skipped the benelli 302s :( I love that bike
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Benelli is italian
@@Ethnomad03607 Benelli was bought by SSR unfortunately.
@@chrisslayton6549 yeah sorry I commented too early
Maybe because the weight
I have a egl 300 cc dirtbike
With 31 hp and really good torque for 240 pounds and findable parts its nice
If I would describe in a non specs sheet nerd way
Its lightweight the low end and high end is good for a longer stroke engine and I can rev it like crazy and it doesn't blow up on me and a nice suspension adjust and it feels quite different
I love that the front end is light weigh and it wheelies very easily
My Yamaha was manufactured in China. It's fun and reliable.
isnt zontes there in the states? here in Spain they sell 125 and 350cc bikes with loads of technology, good styling and much lower price than brands such as KTM, yamaha, etc
I got the CF Moto ADVentura 650MT and for the price I don’t feel like I could’ve done better. A similar Japanese bike would’ve cost 50% more money and I still don’t think that it would’ve had all the features this bike has. I feel like bikes are way overpriced and I don’t want to pay for a bike what I paid for my car- it’s gotta be way less and with CF moto I feel like I’m getting my moneys worth. I’ve had many bikes in the past and the build quality is just as good as the Japanese bikes I’ve had. So far I’ve had zero issues with the bike it’s been stone reliable.
I won't ride a Chinese brand or Chinese made bike. I have self respect, I will ride the bus instead.
WTF
Same here. Chinese bikes are the only ones i can afford but won’t buy despite being a squid
I would sacrifice anything for my self respect.
@@maalikserebryakov Look, if you have deep pockets and you can buy high end Euro bikes that's fine, no need to buy inferior Chinese bikes . I ride higher end bikes because they are within my budget However, if that's what you can afford.....use one and upgrade when you can.
Here is the list
- Benelli
- zontes
- keeway
- qjmotor
- motomorini
- cf moto
These are geniune and reliable chinese brands
No CSC? The California based company has been selling Chinese motorcycles for the best part of a decade and making a good name for themselves. All their bikes are made by Zongshen in China, and rebadged as CSC. Their small adventure bikes, RX3 and RX4, have gathered a lot of praise, and now they're selling the newer model, RX6. Definitely check them out.
I think that would be because CSC are Cali based. Even though they sell rebadged Chinese bikes, company is still not Chinese.
@@worthy_escapes i think they represent Zongshen in the US. CSC does no development on the bikes other than naming and branding. I think it definitely qualifies as a Chinese bike.
@@RideWithRen The PR guy for CSC does have a tendency to be a jerk to critical reviewers, such as eveRide. He came to the conclusion that the RX3 is by far not ideal for Offroad riding due to it's lack of power and it's suspension. He did say that as a commuter, it's fine. He merely said that it is not the game changer some thought it to be. In response to this review, CSC's PR guy relentlessly slandered eveRide and dragged his name through the mud, until people started boycotting the company. Only then did he apologise.
Let's not forget their Honda cloned engines are indestructible
@@darko_lengkeek-jakupovic thats unfortunate but I personally know two people who have them and say good things.
Bn 125 is a very popular beginner bike, and TRK502 is also very popular. Every motorcycle show you go to now, 60% of the bikes are Chinese. They are taking over. All CF moto bikes are cool, but a bit expensive.
i live in Belize and to be honest the Lifan brand of Chinese motorcycles are known to be quite reliable here they get the crap beat out of em and just keep going especially the ones with the Cg engine clone that uses a pushrod system and not timing chains they are crazy durable.
I bought a Benelli TRK 502 back in December as my first bike.
Big bike small guy
But sure as hell big fun crushing those Kms here in Europe!
I think hear in the UK most 125 bike's are Chinese and they aren't doing to bad like lexmoto and zontes they are holding their value well I mean there 40 percent cheaper so when they get sold people aren't really loosing that much money percent wise there holding their value better than I thought they would bigger displacement I can't comment as there aren't many Chinese bike's available except CF moto
Yea Zontes are the more popular brand in the UK
Should have mentioned the Keeway sub brand MBP. I have a MBP M502N and until now have nothing to complain about it. They are releasing a lot of new models soon
That's too wired, a sub brand, but actually a better quality one from a sub brand of Benelli, which is a sub brand of qj motors..
But it's actually a better version of the Honda cb 500 in every shape or form!
A wasted opportunity, because Keeway succeed where Benelli didn't, cheap naked bikes. MBP is a more expensive Keeway, it's basically without purpose or meaning. If i choose Keeway, it's because of it's untouchable asked price to value ratio, not because it's supposed to be better than x or y..
Rkf 500 needs to be born, as a natural upgrade for those millions of squids, MBP is just another voge 500.
Man you missed the specs on the Ibex 800T. It makes the same HP and Torque as the 790 Adventure... 94HP and 54 ft./lbs torque. CFMOTO is building the engines for the new 790 Adventure and the new 790 Duke.
Glad to see this clarified..
Correction: Ibex 800T/800MT is 95HP, Yammie! hahah
CFmoto is being served in UAE Dubai as rental bikes for the desert and believe me they are worth it since I see everyone who rents one trying to destroys it 😂
Yeah CFMoto, Lexmoto, and mainly Benelli gets the most pass for the sake of reputation for me.
I had a Benelli TnT 1130 Triple naked bike for 1 day back in 2007. I had made a deal trading in my Ducati Monster and rode home on a fabulous looking 1130 Triple in bright green. After riding it just 30 kms, I was back at the dealer demanding my Monster back - while that Benelli was fast and powerful, the gearbox was complete garbage. Missed shifts with false neutrals, and absolutely impossible to find the real neutral when stopping. Even with the engine off, rocking the bike trying to find neutral was almost impossible. The dealer tried riding around the lot, and in two minutes agreed to take it back, refund my money, and return my Ducati. It cost a few bucks to unwind the paperwork, but it was worth it. Months later, that same bike still sat in the showroom...of course, that was an Italian made bike.
CFMoto are really good quality motorcycles, i have many friends who use them some even reached 50 km with minor issues, even Benelli are good 👍🏻
50km is a feat for you? lol ?
few "Chinese" motorbikes are actually european brands that bankrupt
i remember when i was riding my little moped, no one else were, i was like the first ever person around my town and surrounding towns lol. i went everywhere with my moped, even up to the mountains lol. it was a kymco ZX-50. that little 50cc was a beast and the whole bike itself was built with exceptional quality... i obviously progress to motorcycles but that little kymco zx50 was like the first girl that you'll never forget... not all chinese product is junk.
I've been watching yaminoob vids for years on and off but haven't liked or subscribed to the channel until this video. This was probably not paid for buy OEMs but so honest in bringing up the conversation of global manufacturing. Everyone's favorite new bikes are made using these design and build techniques. Really cool exposure to some more legit Chinese brands.
Recently bought a Leoncino 500 2020, and man does it both look and ride beautifully, hopefully, the long-term quality will be reliable as I have found multiple bikes with well over 50.000KM for sale used. Wish me luck
My local Harley dealer has the 350X’s for their training courses according to a FB post…
CFmoto, Benelli, Zongsheng, Lifan are sold all around the world and have quite reliable small/medium bikes. Unlike the US market which prefer to have gas guzzling, insane horsepower vehicles. The little trade war between the China and US also keeps the Chinese auto industry out of the US whereas its gaining market share all around the globe.
Seen those Harley’s at the local Harley show for their learning school, they look cool, but a lot like the 750 that went belly up.
There’s only a handful of dealers that sell theses bikes in the CA SF Bay area. A few of these I didn’t know existed. I like this type of vid.
I could say, most if not all good chinese bike recommended in this video, has lesser build quality than other Japanese, continental or even India built brands like Bajaj, KTM 390 and BMW 310.
The evidence at least to my eyes and personal testing on the bikes are shallower plastic fairings which feels light (the low quality light, not carbon like), signal stalks that break too soon (same issue as the fairings) and mechanical issue / assembly issue. Its kinda like you expect these kind of issues will happen to 3 or 4 years old bikes but it happen to 1 to 2 years old chinese bikes.
So depend on the pricing and your inclination to learn fixing a bike yourself, its still worth buying but there's also much more great option in used market from japanese bike although they're probably too boring. At lease bikes from Benelli has great sound especially those with parallel twin engine like Leoncino and TRK.
I live in Beijing, I paid about $4,900 for a brand new HaoJue TR300 cruiser. Uses a Suzuki engine. This bike is damn near bullet proof, starts first time, every time, even at -15 C in winter. A full year of riding, and all it needed was the regular oil changes.
haojue has the best reliability among all, they produce all the bullet proof gsxr 250 in the world. but they have 0 innovation their own bikes are reliable small cc vanillas.
Are Import bikes very expensive in PRC ?
@@eflanagan1921 yes, they have a 150% import tax. But a lot of companies will do final assembly in China to avoid the tax. My bike was only about 35000RMB (€4000)
@@zforzed3344 I didn't want innovation, I wanted bullet proof 😅🤣
Since very few people are mentioning it, please take a look at Zontes. They are appearing alot here in Europe, personally the 125cc naked model is better than the benelli one (we have both at home).
You can check voge too it has nice bikes
Yup, Zontes is premium quality Chinese bike, picking up the pace with Honda and Yamaha, started to see them appearing in Europe. Currently looking at G1 as a tempting purchase.
We have Zontes brand in South Africa
I’ve got a 650nk from CFMOTO, bought it in September of 2022, currently sitting just shy of 11k miles, no issues out of it. I’m even planning on loading it down and taking it to key west (roughly 900 miles away from my house). Looking forward to seeing some market breakthrough.
I've got a 2013 one
Still going very strong
Yeah, I'm enjoying my 650nk also. Not as punchy as I was hoping BUT!!! It's a lot faster, torquier and stable than I thought it was going to be. Definitely a great bike.
@@tyrant1178 I agree, after a few months of riding it as a daily, I understood it’s strong points were stop light to stop light, but I have a roughly 50mi round trip commute, so I’ve learned to deal with the shortcomings of it and assumedly all naked bikes
@@ianmoore1312 oh I get that. My commute is only about 15 to 20 minutes but all highway. I think a lot of the negative opinions unfortunately come from the pre break in period. Because I can definitely say my bike came right to life after about 1000 miles
@@tyrant1178 I know exactly what you mean. Btw if you are looking for a good windscreen to make the commute a little less of a beating the PUIG Rafael looks absolutely gorgeous on the bike.
Part of the marketing is to let good dealers, riders, etc test the cycles, these tests are used for upgrade the quality. They did it with EV and for ex Guitars (my business) Guitars from China are affordable and damned well, every year better and better.
In the end, you can check the bikes available in Europe (in France?). I guess the pretty strict legislation (and the Euro5 standard) only let the ok bikes get to the shelves.
You can only find Chinese brands such as CFMoto, Benelli, Moto Morini or Voge here. All seem to be decent (nonetheless, we lack the long term feedbacks).
Benelli TRK251 owner here from malaysia...2 years of ownership...easy and cheap to maintain...17liter of petrol tank..just minor issue here and there...nothing serious...engine it self reliable so far...now 41k km on odo...
Cfmoto clx 700 sport is nice as well just bought a 2022 for $4999 as they’re making way for the 2023’s they have dual front disc with Brembo stylema calipers and most of the same stuff as the heritage model otherwise
I'm strongly considering a CFMoto clx-700 Heritage for my next bike. They have are actually very comfortable to ride, while still being more upright in the seating (a big plus for me).
it might not be common in the US but in Europe benelli is one of the most sold brands (1st in Italy as least)
@ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇs ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ 👉@MrYammie_noob oh hey scammer
As an Italian I can confirm this. Benelli has become a "known" and commonly sold motorcycle. With now a lot dealers all over and they seem pretty reliable (not japan level...but good enough ) and good looking. I think in part the name/brand played an important part, in the sense that even if a Chinese producer did make good motorcycles, that wouldn't be enough without the italian name/brand behind it. If I were to say I have a Benelli in Italy it's like "ok", however if I were to say I have a "ching chung chang" (any chinese name) the reaction would be negative and "what is that?" regardless of how good the motorcyle actually is. So it has to do with both the quality, but believe it or not, even just the name/brand behind it.
The Chinese made Harley is being used for their msf course at the Harley dealership I live next to in Omaha. They don't sell them but they are definitely using them as their training bikes.
@Kaitlyn Kenyon I can't speak to the quality of the bikes. The only way to get your hands on one is to take the MSF course. Don't want to do that again just for a parking lot ride.
i owned benelli tnt25 such a sweet bike, reliable aswell i had it for 6 years it aged so well i had to sale it, till end it rocked same engine no problem whatsoever. I only once checked top speed which was 151km/h. which is decent for 250cc
The TRK502 has a X variant
Spoked wheels. Aluminium cases(3pieces) and longer suspension for mild offroading
Like 600-700€ extra. Just for looks imo
Some dealers sell em with the X package for sub 6k
Heavy, yes. Fast, no. Good enough for most riders that want a long distance bike for cheap and new, yes
And some ppl want a that GS look
CFMoto is probably the best out of all the Chinese brands mentioned in this video
not all chinese bikes are equal, but thats irrelevant when it comes to ethics, so ill pass on all of them.
I'd like to add Lifan to this list.
Lifan X pect 250cc dual sport is really reliable and fun
The CFMoto 450 SR will soon replace the Ninja 400, R3 and RC390. Really solid bike for cheaper than any of these mentioned above. It's not about the bike... It's about the rider... so why not sharpen your riding ability for a smidge of the price. Forget the labels.
Lmao I’ve got some beachfront property to sell you in Kansas.
Green light for the Leoncino. Owned and tortured before buying a Rebel, my definitive ride.
It’s in some way even better than the Rebel and it’s 100% reliable.
Issues: lights are WEAK if you ride at night, i would have loved better plastic on the tail, plastic on the arrow is real sh*it and tend to curve with heat and use
Other than that and some excess Kg, it’s GREAT
Took my license on a rebel 500, and recently bought the Leoncino and I will say the same in some ways it does actually feel better than the rebel. However, the rebel is still my definitive ride too (when i can afford one)
Yammie would love to see you do a review on the cfmoto 450sr I went and see one in person in australia and it looked amazing tbh for a small sports bike.
Benelli Tnt600 rider here. Got it last year as my first motorcycle, and other then the weight (just under 500 lbs) I have no complaints. Will probably get one more season before upgrading and turning into a spare/track bike.
Funny the second i seen this title i said the tnt 600 better be in here and this was the first comment i seen😂. I wanted one but theyre rare so i ride my hawk 250 dual sport
Yea they do seem to be rare lol, which is why I’ll never get rid of it. I’m the only person in my area with one, and not a lot of naked bike riders around here, so it’s unique enough to turn heads. The exhaust note is pretty nice as well.
Mines from rya it works for me and my bikes tend to last 4 to 5 years
I have a benelli 302s and its a very good bike, but also very heavy for a 300 (429 lbs). Other then that no complains either and its sounds great
Benelli 600 and 302s are ridiculously heavy. Was going for the TNT 600 for first bike but the weight turned me off. Went with z650 instead.
No, none of them
I remember Benelli and Garelli from the 1976, when a friend owns a Benelli and I a Garelli. We bought it because of the pricing. Others were 3 times more expensive and upgrading to 50 cc, is a motor, was very easy. However....if you drove a day, next day you needed to check your bolts...it was possible your cycle fall apart 🤣🤣
Bought my Leoncino Trail last year and I love it.
Zontes 703F
ZONTES 703RR
Zontes 703T
Zontes 703R
They are crying in the corner, the strongest Chinese brand ever has been underestimated, which will take on a very large part of the market if it continues with this amazing power, for example their last adventure bike 703F It is a very powerful bike with a power of about 100 horsepower and more than 75 Nm of torque and a maximum speed of more than 230 km per hour. This bike is superior to all bikes in its class. In terms of strength In terms of equipment, with front and rear cameras, blind spot warnings, a 7-inch screen that contains the Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, and many more wonderful technologies.
I just bought a 300nk out right. Loving it so far. My first bike.
Mind giving an update? Is it still running?
Yeah great every machine looks perfect when new..but put 20k plus miles on a Chinese bike and then come and tell me you made a bloody expensive mistake buying one in the first place😁😁😁
Nothing wrong with CF Moto bikes. The quality is as good as any Suzuki from Japan. The new 450 is really good and the NK 650 very good value for money.
I own a Benelli TNT249S 3 years now and albeit being on the heavy side at 200kgs wet weight, the ride is very pleasant. Not fast for a 250 but then again it's a naked bike