7 Chinese Motorcycles that are WORTH IT
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Despite the majority of Chinese bikes-in-a-box out there being total pieces of junk, there are a select few that are decent or even good. In this video, I filter them out so you don't have to...you're welcome.
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Should've added Benelli TNT 600 papa yams
NK400 bro it's very famous here in PH because 400cc is the minimum requirements for you to be able to enter expressway.
You forgot Zontes
i want to win, i only have 125cc china bike for 11 years.
The bike you forgot was the new Moto Morini ADV Bike.
I live in Melbourne, Australia. I bought a Benelli TRK 502X new 18 months ago. I’ve done 117,000 km on this bike with little trouble. Yes, it’s heavy…but when you get caught in a crosswind, or buffeting caused by road trains you’re going to appreciate the stability of the bike. I do a yearly trip to far North Queensland, over 10,000km in 12 days, and the bike is awesome to ride. I get mine serviced every month at the dealership I bought it from and they just laugh when the check the km. It doesn’t have the “grin factor” that my Tiger Sport 660 has, but I can’t do 1000km + days on the Triumph either. Seat is really comfortable and butt only starts getting numb around 800km mark. Great bike for the money.
To be fully honest, Benelli is probably more reliable now than when it was Italian
This dude probably owns a benelli
Eyyy we made them to go fast not to last.
Not hard.
That's a very low bar
Believe me CFmoto has better quality then Qj or benelli
The CFMoto 300 NK is one of the few good quality bikes that get to Latin America for accessible prices. Most Japanese brands don't bother comercializing models with ABS, full LED lights, and good displays on the lower end, except in a few countries. Definitely what i'm aiming towards when i can afford it.
Nice, same for me, where are you from?, does cfmoto have good reputation in your country?, here in Costa Rica is somewhat marginal, but slowly getting acepted has good quality
@@jorgerivera6307 soy de Argentina. La marca esta aqui desde hace algunos años ya. Tiene buena reputacion entre los foros de mecanicos por su uso de buenos materiales, y muchos de sus repuestos son compartidos con motos KTM y con Honda, como los filtros de aire que son los mismos de la CB250 Twister. Lo unico que si me da cosita es que no tengo concesionarios cercanos para hacer valer la garantia, y que es dificil encontrar mecanicos que le entren a la parte electrónica de la moto, la cual tiene de sobra. Otros bloggers de paises como Chile, Colombia y demas hablan de experiencias similares. Algunos la tienen por muchos kilometros y el motor no se deprecia como usualmente se asocia con motos chinas. Otra marca muy bien tratada de entre las chinas es Voge, que viene de la mano de Loncin, aunque las Cfmoto son mas bonitas y mejor hechas en mi opinion.
Got 1500 miles on my 300NK, and loving the MPG life on it. It very nimbly weaves through Little Rock traffic, 7 miles one way, and is such a fun alternative to my 12mpg, but fun in a different way, Ram 1500. I am very soon getting the CLX700,or the 800NK next. The 700 is going as low as 4200 right now too.
In my country
It's just an overpriced bike
It cost like Duke 390 but is weaker than Duke 250
@@jerrybhai3362 let me guess, colombia or brazil, not trying to mock you, just geniunely trying to guess the market
I personally own a 250NK from CF Moto with over 52K kilometers on it, the last time I checked the valves all were still in spec (I checked them when the bike had 49k kilometers) never had issues with electronics nor engine, pretty happy with this brand to be honest.
Benelli is overall a great manufacture. Here in Europe they're pretty popular, especially the Trk 502 and Bn 125. Also please take a look at the 302s and 752s. They're absolutely fenomenal bikes, in some ways better than their non-chinese counterparts.
I got a tnt300 as my first bike and fell in love, such a unique motorcycle and definitely underappreciated.
What u prefer cb500x or trk502?
I rode the 800 leoncino and its really fun and good compare to mt07 or ninja 650. It has the ducati monster 821 vibe and was much better than cfmoto xcl700. Tho it specs are not that good.
I have a benelli vlx 157cc which is good though
Would you guys recommend the 302s over a Gixxer 250? I'm researching where to spend my hard earned moneyz
Benelli and QJ are both owned by Geely Holding Group. Geely also owns Volvo. I own a Geely car that was designed and engineered by Volvo engineers. The quality is just fantastic. There are some companies that are aware that Chinese products have a bad rap for being low quality. So they are making huge strides in quality by hiring engineers from reputable companies to improve their products. CFMoto has partnered with Japanese companies to make sure their products are of higher quality.
Fun fact the Police force of China uses CFmoto 650MT's and 800MT's and recently Greece's police force has ordered dozens of them also. If the popo is using them then they have got to be somewhat reliable.
Politics not engineering steer purchases,
@@eflanagan1921 That too but from what I hear from peeps that have bought these and put miles on them they have had no issues easy acces to parts if needed, service intervals okay. Dare I say it it's like buying a kawasaki. The 650MT is based on the Kawasaki Versys engine design and the 800MT I think it's the same as the KTM 790 Adventure. So ya value for money and also reliable. The big 4 just became the big 5 it seems.
KTM reliable ??? LOL
i knew Greece is in deep shiet but this much troubles ?
@@nokia5359budget cuts have been kind of drastic though I think CFMoto isn’t a bad idea. Typically they use v-stroms and Hondas with the occasional aprilia. Honestly it’s good to see they are finally getting newer equipment as most of their vehicles are over 15 years old
I had a Benelli TNT 125 for a couple of years and then switched to a TRK 502 X, 255 lbs to 518 lbs lol fell down 4 times from stopped, then got used to it and it's an incredible motorbike. Reached 11111 km today!
I’m about to buy my first big bike after my 125cc.The TRK 702 looks so good in forest green and the reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. They listened to people and apparently fixed the issues they had with the 502.
As a chinese here, here are my personal recommended models if you wanna try chinese brands:
CF moto: 450 SR (sports), 800MT (ADV/Touring), NK450/CLX700 (Street)
Beneli: TRK 502 (ADV/Touring), 752 (cruise)
Kove: 450 RR (Sports), 800X (ADV/offroad)
Not recommending QJ moto bikes as they are bad for quality in general. I would vote for Kove with extra credit as the brand is really investing heavily on innovation and manufacturing their own stuff, the new 450RR parts/engine is really fantastic
How about zontes?
@@i-am-learning-life I would rank Zonte as Tier 2 brands as their engine quality may not be consistent from one to the other, can give a try for their Scooter 350D.
@@jw8767what about voge 300rr?
I recently bought a localized version of dayang vorei 150. I have had 1100 kms on it and I'm pretty happy about it. How it is recepted in China?
@@FernovVoge 300rr was popular like 2-3 yrs ago where not many manufacturers in the market ( their bike quality slightly better than others in old days). The engine is a reverse engineering from Kawasaki 300cc engine by manufacturer called Loncin.
I am really happy for this video. Not all Chinese bikes are equal. Especially if they are build for a European brand that is responsible for the quality check as well. BMW, KTM, etc. I own a Benelli TRK 502X and I love it. A bit on the heavy side but it is also very stable. Has a great road presence that makes it safe. Car drivers actually see you. Also the dealership in Cyprus is amazing. I totally recommend it. I am not a new rider. I am 52 and I have a background of a lot of sport bikes (NSR 250R, ZXR400SP, ZZR600...) so I believe that my opinion has some value.
Which Chinese brand builds BMW?
@@gigihanmandarin Voge.
@@gigihanmandarin
Voge.
KTM is connected with CFMOTO.
Benelli is connected with QJMotors.
Late to the party, but if you stumble on motorcycle called Haojue, it is literally just a Suzuki. Same quality, love it or hate it depending on your taste, and slightly cheaper. That's because Haojue was licensed directly by Suzuki to manufacture many of their low-end motorcycle and have their expert QC senior engineers. Haojue, in turn, use a lot of Suzuki technology and design. And yes, you can even find Haojue Gixxer clone.
I bought a Benelli TRK 502 back in December as my first bike.
Big bike small guy
But sure as hell big fun crushing those Kms here in Europe!
Lifan is HUGE here in Bangladesh and south-east Asia region.
Their engines are rebranded everywhere as various chinese brands.
SEA? all I see is Honda Supra, Honda beat, Yamaha Nmax, or Yamaha MX King/Exciter everywhere. Rarely see Lifan. It's there but it's not that huge. Just exist and forgettable.
@@literallyhuman5990 Philippines not sure about other SEA. We have many Honda CG-125 and TMX 155 copies here, and scooter copies too.
I have Lifan LF 250b from 2009 and i have 130k km :)
I have a Benelli 302S that I basically stole from a local dealership as nobody wanted it, and I bought it with only 200 miles on the clock. Two and a half years and a couple thousand miles later, still a great bike with zero issues. All I’ve done to it are oil changes. I am very pleasantly surprised with it, especially considering what I paid for it.
I bought a 2023 benelli 302s in March 2023 I have almost 10k miles on mine with zero problems
I own a 2022 650NK and its great. Truly proper bike and my buddy that has an MT-09 rode it and he really liked it as well. Bought it brand new in November for 5300!!! I thought that was crazy and its been a great bike.
You should check Zontes too, the 300cc (now they are 350cc) are pretty good for their price. I got the R310 (19 model) they look awesome and they seem to be OK.
Their models look neeeat in person, but I would wait a little to learn more about their quality
@@victorrenevaldiviasoto9728 Just as good as Japanese bikes now in terms of quality and reliability, infact a lot of japanese manufactures make bikes in their chinese factories these days
Planning to change my SYm NXH 125 for a Zontes ZT310-V
Zontes t310 is value for money
@@Konstantinio I was pleasantly surprise by their build quality at the agency
Just got the 300NK from CFMOTO, man I'm loving it, I drove a 125cc bike for almost 3 years (Honda CB125F), and this machine feels really good all around
I have a Lifan KPX 250 which is a Chinese bike. I got it new for $2600 and i love it. I have put a little over 22,000 miles on it with no trouble so far. It is a dual sport and i always still get a smile on my face when riding it. That's what it is all about.
I have about 1000 miles on my Lifan X-pect 200, paid $2200. Zero trouble. Excellent mileage. Fast enough. Absolutely worth what I paid.
In Singapore, we have another Chinese bike manufacturer that's being imported, Zontes. Their bikes have good reviews too.
Nobody bats an eye on Zontes here in Malaysia 😂
@@azizuladha8201 cus there have many more options than here 🥲 and price not handicapped by COE
@@TheSunMoon Benelli, QJ Motor & CFMoto is the number 1 dominating China brand here. Me too own a Benelli. In terms of parts it's easier to aquire than Zontes.
I own a 2022 Venom KPR 200 made by Lifan and it’s a great motorcycle. Build quality is very good and reliability over the year that I’ve owned it has been outstanding. For a 200cc it does really well cruising around town or even hopping onto the interstate. Gas mileage has been great also, just an all around fun bike that I enjoy very much. I purchased it online from Venom motorsports and they have been great. Budget motorcycles may not be for everyone, Y noob included but for some of us they are a very viable option.
I’m heavily leaning towards a Venom Sportster 200, it’s $2000 and need something to learn on that I won’t be scared to scrape up. Is it essentially the same motor/transmission as the KPM 200?
@@SCIFIguy64 No it's not the same engine as the KPM200, it actually has a 223cc engine. I'm not really familiar with the venom sportster but venom has been good about taking care of their customers, and the sportster would probably be a good bike to learn on.
@@SCIFIguy64YES!! I literally just bought the 2022 VENOM SPORTSTER CHOPPER | 250CC MOTORCYCLE. Comes in in 2 weeks fully assembled. I never rode a bike before so wanted a nice cheap starter so we shall see.
@@Vasquez19781 Awesome Vasquez! Congratulations on the new bike? I hope you have a lot of good times on it.
These all read like paid comments lmao
Bennelli 500 Rider in the US here, LOVE this little beast...just enough torque and power to be fun in the city and back roads, and still get you down the HW if you don't mind the slightly stiff tail turning your tailbone to dust. The 702 is not a beginner bike, it is the Adventure Bike you buy when you get divorced and she gets the BMW...you can even slap some badged boxes on the back and just block out the rest of the branding and only other BMW riders will know your pain and commiserate with you.
I recently bought a CF Moto 650NK and I’m very shocked of how well it’s built, it’s quick for what it is and rides absolutely smooth
I have the trk502 for 4 years and i only change the engine oil and filter . It’s an awesome bike
Zontes G1 125 ccm, spoke wheels - I just bought it for urban commuting for my partner. Spending like 3000+$ you get really ..... not joking .... high quality. Surprised?
@ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇs ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ👉@MrYammie_noob👈 Yeah, i ride one to, best money I ever spent on an everyday bike city
Bought my Leoncino Trail last year and I love it.
What costs$2 an hour to build in China costs $100 an hour to fix in USA.
Recently bought a Leoncino 500 2020, and man does it both look and ride beautifully, hopefully, the long-term quality will be reliable as I have found multiple bikes with well over 50.000KM for sale used. Wish me luck
I’ve recently picked up the CFMoto 400GT as my second bike, and it’s perfect for me. Smooth and chill enough for riding comfortably in the streets, yet packs a decent punch on the highways.
The Benda LFC 700 is worth a look too. It is an awesome "Cruiser" powered by an inline four cylinder 680cc motor that was derived from Honda. With a huge 310mm wide rear tyre, this machine looks like no other on the planet.
Yes, a beautiful bike !.Will buy one if landed in my country !
Yup, I'm getting myself a QJmoto svr250 for birthday. It's gonna arrive this coming June. It's a beginner cruiser bike. Looks neat in that army green😬
CFMoto also has 450 & 300 sport bikes for the beginner track riders
6 years of riding a CFMoto 650nk to and from work every day , weekend thrashes and it's not had a major mechanical break down , the water pump springing a leak within warrenty has been all .
I do all servicing on a regular basis myself and I am really impressed with this bike , 72 hp so it goes very well .
A licensed Kawasaki 650 twin engine
i remember when i was riding my little moped, no one else were, i was like the first ever person around my town and surrounding towns lol. i went everywhere with my moped, even up to the mountains lol. it was a kymco ZX-50. that little 50cc was a beast and the whole bike itself was built with exceptional quality... i obviously progress to motorcycles but that little kymco zx50 was like the first girl that you'll never forget... not all chinese product is junk.
thanks yam!
Bought a 90 cc Munster built in china ,10 yrs of abuse in,it has had two wheel bearings 1 chain and few back tyres ,fun little road bike
Solid inputs squid idol
Voge is also a pretty cool chinese manufacturer having also constructed parts for big vompanies for example BMW. The Voge 500ds is a pretty cool and seemingly reliable ADV bike.
Voge (Loncin) are making excellent bikes, and when the 900 hits the European market, Yamaha, Honda and BMW sales will be hit. I have the 650dsx and engineering wise it’s great value for money and fun to ride. You made a good point and I feel Voge should have been included but the video seemed to centralise on Benelli.
Honorable mention to CFMOTO 450SS. Hopefully picking one up soon❤
They have an ADV touring version now
There’s only a handful of dealers that sell theses bikes in the CA SF Bay area. A few of these I didn’t know existed. I like this type of vid.
I have a egl 300 cc dirtbike
With 31 hp and really good torque for 240 pounds and findable parts its nice
If I would describe in a non specs sheet nerd way
Its lightweight the low end and high end is good for a longer stroke engine and I can rev it like crazy and it doesn't blow up on me and a nice suspension adjust and it feels quite different
I love that the front end is light weigh and it wheelies very easily
Dang he skipped the benelli 302s :( I love that bike
@ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇs ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ 👉@MrYammie_noob oh hey scammer
Benelli is italian
@@Ethnomad03607 Benelli was bought by SSR unfortunately.
@@chrisslayton6549 yeah sorry I commented too early
Maybe because the weight
I have a CFMOTO 450SS as my first bike. I can’t say much because I’m so new but everyone who sees it absolutely falls in love. Maybe a check on this or the 300SS would be a cool thing to look into!
Saw it today. May be the nicest "entry level" sport bike I've ever seen.
@@jtec99 oh yeah I love the look, there are many added features into it that help you from buying added accessories some of the people where showing me. I think so far it’s really great, but then again this is my first so I’m in love haha.
@@EdwardGarciaTV This reads like fake payed bs.
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights lmao well idk how else to say it to make it seem legit. “This bike is fucking badass bro, this is not a Chinese user at all!” 😂
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights I’d add a picture of YT was cool but it doesn’t allow that. But, I guess for a good reason 😂 I’m not chatGPT either so yeah 🤘🏽👍🏽
Seen those Harley’s at the local Harley show for their learning school, they look cool, but a lot like the 750 that went belly up.
Just saw the Ibex 800 T and The 800s in person. Don't care what anyone says... They're fuqin nice.
KTM engine
I got the CF Moto ADVentura 650MT and for the price I don’t feel like I could’ve done better. A similar Japanese bike would’ve cost 50% more money and I still don’t think that it would’ve had all the features this bike has. I feel like bikes are way overpriced and I don’t want to pay for a bike what I paid for my car- it’s gotta be way less and with CF moto I feel like I’m getting my moneys worth. I’ve had many bikes in the past and the build quality is just as good as the Japanese bikes I’ve had. So far I’ve had zero issues with the bike it’s been stone reliable.
Glad cfmoto got mentioned here
From a person who owned cfmoto 450sr (rr if you're Western)
I think hear in the UK most 125 bike's are Chinese and they aren't doing to bad like lexmoto and zontes they are holding their value well I mean there 40 percent cheaper so when they get sold people aren't really loosing that much money percent wise there holding their value better than I thought they would bigger displacement I can't comment as there aren't many Chinese bike's available except CF moto
Yea Zontes are the more popular brand in the UK
Ive been riding a cfmoto 300NK for the past 3 years. Recommended 👍🏽
I’m on a little lexmoto zsb 125, not my normal type of thing but it’s a great little bike and handles nicely
I've been watching yaminoob vids for years on and off but haven't liked or subscribed to the channel until this video. This was probably not paid for buy OEMs but so honest in bringing up the conversation of global manufacturing. Everyone's favorite new bikes are made using these design and build techniques. Really cool exposure to some more legit Chinese brands.
The 350cC... Yummy yum I likey. But thanks for the education till now I thought that Beneli was still an expensive Italian brand.
If this video doesn't include Loncin motors I'll riot...
come on, even chinese are making sideeye towards Loncin motorcycles ,they are nothing but making shit motorcycle
The Boom BD250 haha soften the heart of Papa Yam
You have it backwards, CFMoto makes the engine for KTM. So KTM is using a CFMoto engine. Hope that helps. Actually looking forward to the CFMoto NK800, which will be a Duke 790 but cheaper.
Hey hey hey papa yam that benelli Leoncino 500 trail video was not the 500 but the new 800 trail you should test that one, that’s a real good bike
Should have mentioned the Keeway sub brand MBP. I have a MBP M502N and until now have nothing to complain about it. They are releasing a lot of new models soon
That's too wired, a sub brand, but actually a better quality one from a sub brand of Benelli, which is a sub brand of qj motors..
But it's actually a better version of the Honda cb 500 in every shape or form!
A wasted opportunity, because Keeway succeed where Benelli didn't, cheap naked bikes. MBP is a more expensive Keeway, it's basically without purpose or meaning. If i choose Keeway, it's because of it's untouchable asked price to value ratio, not because it's supposed to be better than x or y..
Rkf 500 needs to be born, as a natural upgrade for those millions of squids, MBP is just another voge 500.
Bn 125 is a very popular beginner bike, and TRK502 is also very popular. Every motorcycle show you go to now, 60% of the bikes are Chinese. They are taking over. All CF moto bikes are cool, but a bit expensive.
i live in Belize and to be honest the Lifan brand of Chinese motorcycles are known to be quite reliable here they get the crap beat out of em and just keep going especially the ones with the Cg engine clone that uses a pushrod system and not timing chains they are crazy durable.
i love the cf moto 450sr but no proper dealers with stock in East Malaysia with good workshop (mostly oily on pavement servicing) parts no stock yet and second hand value possibly an issue to face...but what a great review sounding and looking bike!
My first bike was a Lifan Lycan 250 cc cruiser. Now I got a cfmoto 650 Adventura
No CSC? The California based company has been selling Chinese motorcycles for the best part of a decade and making a good name for themselves. All their bikes are made by Zongshen in China, and rebadged as CSC. Their small adventure bikes, RX3 and RX4, have gathered a lot of praise, and now they're selling the newer model, RX6. Definitely check them out.
I think that would be because CSC are Cali based. Even though they sell rebadged Chinese bikes, company is still not Chinese.
@@worthy_escapes i think they represent Zongshen in the US. CSC does no development on the bikes other than naming and branding. I think it definitely qualifies as a Chinese bike.
@@RideWithRen The PR guy for CSC does have a tendency to be a jerk to critical reviewers, such as eveRide. He came to the conclusion that the RX3 is by far not ideal for Offroad riding due to it's lack of power and it's suspension. He did say that as a commuter, it's fine. He merely said that it is not the game changer some thought it to be. In response to this review, CSC's PR guy relentlessly slandered eveRide and dragged his name through the mud, until people started boycotting the company. Only then did he apologise.
Let's not forget their Honda cloned engines are indestructible
@@darko_lengkeek-jakupovic thats unfortunate but I personally know two people who have them and say good things.
I think I'd rather buy a Benelli shotgun...
I own a benelli bn125, and i can say nothing wrong about it, it's great, and doesn't cost much
Papa yam! Best motorcycle videos on youtube
Cfmoto clx 700 sport is nice as well just bought a 2022 for $4999 as they’re making way for the 2023’s they have dual front disc with Brembo stylema calipers and most of the same stuff as the heritage model otherwise
I'm strongly considering a CFMoto clx-700 Heritage for my next bike. They have are actually very comfortable to ride, while still being more upright in the seating (a big plus for me).
I own a Benelli TNT249S 3 years now and albeit being on the heavy side at 200kgs wet weight, the ride is very pleasant. Not fast for a 250 but then again it's a naked bike
I’ve got a 650nk from CFMOTO, bought it in September of 2022, currently sitting just shy of 11k miles, no issues out of it. I’m even planning on loading it down and taking it to key west (roughly 900 miles away from my house). Looking forward to seeing some market breakthrough.
I've got a 2013 one
Still going very strong
Yeah, I'm enjoying my 650nk also. Not as punchy as I was hoping BUT!!! It's a lot faster, torquier and stable than I thought it was going to be. Definitely a great bike.
@@tyrant1178 I agree, after a few months of riding it as a daily, I understood it’s strong points were stop light to stop light, but I have a roughly 50mi round trip commute, so I’ve learned to deal with the shortcomings of it and assumedly all naked bikes
@@ianmoore1312 oh I get that. My commute is only about 15 to 20 minutes but all highway. I think a lot of the negative opinions unfortunately come from the pre break in period. Because I can definitely say my bike came right to life after about 1000 miles
@@tyrant1178 I know exactly what you mean. Btw if you are looking for a good windscreen to make the commute a little less of a beating the PUIG Rafael looks absolutely gorgeous on the bike.
I own a Zontes u125 two years now. Not a singel problem.😊
would u be able to review the CFMOTO 450sr/ss it seems like a realy cool bike to me
great vid btw
I live in Beijing, I paid about $4,900 for a brand new HaoJue TR300 cruiser. Uses a Suzuki engine. This bike is damn near bullet proof, starts first time, every time, even at -15 C in winter. A full year of riding, and all it needed was the regular oil changes.
haojue has the best reliability among all, they produce all the bullet proof gsxr 250 in the world. but they have 0 innovation their own bikes are reliable small cc vanillas.
Are Import bikes very expensive in PRC ?
@@eflanagan1921 yes, they have a 150% import tax. But a lot of companies will do final assembly in China to avoid the tax. My bike was only about 35000RMB (€4000)
@@zforzed3344 I didn't want innovation, I wanted bullet proof 😅🤣
I'd like to add Lifan to this list.
Lifan X pect 250cc dual sport is really reliable and fun
I have the CF Moto 650 Adventura and love it!
Here is the list
- Benelli
- zontes
- keeway
- qjmotor
- motomorini
- cf moto
These are geniune and reliable chinese brands
Wait a minute. Where's the closing shot of Yammie swimming with the shark. dammit.😂
Really missing Moto Morini, Similar to Benelli as a Chinese bought Italian manufacturer. Also missing Voge (Loncin).
I shocked to see nothing from csc on the list. Thanks for the video
The suzuki v strom 650 is so proven and for me seeing them going round the clock, you know its going to be better at 3 years old secondhand than a new benelli 502.
My local Harley dealer has the 350X’s for their training courses according to a FB post…
My Nov. 2008 China Scoot, was mechanically ok (did about 4,000 miles on it before giving it to my father in law), but it did have fit and finish problems/ as in the seat opening mechanism failed in the first month/ and myself and the local moto shop never figured out how to "reattach" the spring cables to "fix" it. but that aside/ it was an ok ride for a 150cc "touring size" body (had to mount the windshield, battery, rearview mirrors, and floor mats) Oh, and don't forget the REASON people buy cheap China Bikes, it was $1300 bucks delivered.
**although I do like my Kawasaki, Versys x300 I ride now/ nice to have well made everything.
Living in China - the main newer big 3 here: Voge, Kove (Colove), and Zontes - and the resale is weak here as well, but they are some sweet bikes. I currently have a 2019 GW250 - great machine, I’m fighting with the idea of getting something larger … just too many options in the candy store😂
i got a cf moto 800 nk. not a big one but a light one, extremly maneuverbal. good power (95hp) weight (186kg) ratio.
isnt zontes there in the states? here in Spain they sell 125 and 350cc bikes with loads of technology, good styling and much lower price than brands such as KTM, yamaha, etc
Figured I'd watch this moments after getting back from a ride on my new X-Pro Lanai 150 scooter lol. Yes it came in the box 80% assembled and yes it's Chinease. But I'm 88 miles in and I'm loving it. It has also started with the first push of a button every single time I have ridden it so far including the first time. There is this weird whine at super low speeds (below 30 mph) and for the life of me I can't get the front brakes not to half drag but it's a lot of fun. Quick too for what it is. Kawasaki z400 is next on my list, got this to see if I like riding.
Man you missed the specs on the Ibex 800T. It makes the same HP and Torque as the 790 Adventure... 94HP and 54 ft./lbs torque. CFMOTO is building the engines for the new 790 Adventure and the new 790 Duke.
Glad to see this clarified..
That CLX700 looks really good in the flesh.
Can't wait for the CFMoto 450SR/SS review
Early zongshen dynasty dohc 4 valve porcelain, beautiful
Since very few people are mentioning it, please take a look at Zontes. They are appearing alot here in Europe, personally the 125cc naked model is better than the benelli one (we have both at home).
You can check voge too it has nice bikes
Yup, Zontes is premium quality Chinese bike, picking up the pace with Honda and Yamaha, started to see them appearing in Europe. Currently looking at G1 as a tempting purchase.
We have Zontes brand in South Africa
Poor Yammie has never heard of Kayo. I have a MR150 and love it.
I have the Leoncino 500 for 3 yearsband I love the bike
I had a Benelli TnT 1130 Triple naked bike for 1 day back in 2007. I had made a deal trading in my Ducati Monster and rode home on a fabulous looking 1130 Triple in bright green. After riding it just 30 kms, I was back at the dealer demanding my Monster back - while that Benelli was fast and powerful, the gearbox was complete garbage. Missed shifts with false neutrals, and absolutely impossible to find the real neutral when stopping. Even with the engine off, rocking the bike trying to find neutral was almost impossible. The dealer tried riding around the lot, and in two minutes agreed to take it back, refund my money, and return my Ducati. It cost a few bucks to unwind the paperwork, but it was worth it. Months later, that same bike still sat in the showroom...of course, that was an Italian made bike.
The Benelli 300 is cool too. Have a Ducati monster and the Benelli 300
Have you done a talk about the arc vector motorbike and haptic suit etc yet?
You didn't include the ktm 790 knock off, the cf moto 800NK! Very new, but I'm personally keeping an eye out for it.
My Yamaha was manufactured in China. It's fun and reliable.
13:28 Quick note, The CFMoto 800MT actually makes 91hp, not 79hp!
Thank you. I thought it was me.
I own a Zontes which is the very best of the Chinese manufacturers. Its high spec and its most comparable bike would be tue KTM Duk. It looks amazing and built quality is high and its performance and handing are as good as any Japanese bike in its class.
I am glad that you enjoy your Zontes bike. In China, Zontes gained reputation largely by its 350 scooters and its after sales service attitude. Its earlier geared bikes are often criticized for their chassis rigidity and stability. The upcoming 3-cylinder series would feature improved chassis design.
The Cf moto 450sr also good motorcycle. It has Crossplane 2 cylinder and 47hp
papa yam can you please make a video about Cfmoto 450SR or 450SS for the American boys?