Technician’s Choice 582 Ceramic Detail Spray VS. 584 G-MAX/auto detailing
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Taking a look at Technician’s Choice Ceramic Detail Spray and their new graphene G-Max. These can be used as stand alone or toppers for your vehicles. Check out the video for side by side comparisons.
Excellent real world "honest" review of these two products. I've been using 582 for the past year. I was one of the viewers on your 584 video asking for a comparison between these two products. (I'm located in South FL) What I've found is that 582 lasts anywhere from 2 to 3 months. (White vehicle stays outside) At 3 months it is pretty much done. I now detail my vehicle every 6 weeks so longevity isn't an issue. IMHO I really don't see any other benefit purchasing 584 so I'm gonna stay with the 582! Thanks again for this video! Your channel ROCKS!
Awesome! Ty
These companies with these scams count on uneducated people like you. You people keep them in business. I got a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you but you're going to have to pick it up because I can't ship it to you
Hello,
Thank you for this demonstration. It's great to see people performing similar testing to what we do both internally and in the field with our customers.
The addition of graphene does add more product benefits versus the standard TEC582 Ceramic Detail Spray. Users of the G-Max should see increased levels of shine, slickness, and overall surface protection. Based on your video we would like to highlight a few things:
1. Panels should be sprayed directly, not the towel itself.
2. Most panels only need a couple passes with the microfiber towel to wipe through/light buff.
3. We recommend allowing 24 hours for both products to fully cure.
The most important thing to take away from the G-Max products is that water beading does not equal protection. We understand water beading is demonstrable, but true surface protection does not always equal water beading.
Thank you
How much time of real protection is expected from the GMAX in the worst of real world conditions?
How do you measure protection? curious to understand the measurable standards / equipment that is used . As you can imagine most consumers don't have lab equipment, so we go by the water beading test, which I agree with you it's not accurate, but it's the best the average consumer has.
@@luckypaco1148 Not necessarily. Brian at Apex Detail has two similar products as far as protection but one beads and one sheets. It's a preference really. Sheeting tends to be agreed is better for the paint due to less water spotting. Beading is more an aesthetic thing that is enjoyable.
@@reeb9016 Unfortunately that's an urban myth, sheeting requires A LOT of water, most afternoon showers, sprinklers or water splashes don't produce the volume of water necessary to generate enough sheeting to be superior to beading. Watch the waxmode channel beading v sheeting, he has the best comparison of both. ruclips.net/video/PF3joA36K6Q/видео.html
@@luckypaco1148 Ah, interesting. The search for that perfect formula continues then.
I first started using the 582 2 years ago. That stuff is amazing! I'm also a fan of their aqua glow too. I unfortunately live in a state that has lots of snow during winter. I do what I need to in order to keep the chassis protected with LOTS of fluid film black in the fall. I also do one last big detail right before it starts getting cold and nasty out. Anyway, I noticed with 582 on top of the technicians choice ceramic coating my car will bead all winter long. Absolutely a huge fan of their products.
It’s a fantastic product for the price.
After 24hrs gloss really pops. I've used this for awhile now. One of the most versatile and affordable products out. Can be cut down for a waterless wash also.
I’m gonna try as a waterless
What is your dilution ration to use this as a waterless wash?
Per Apex detail 5:1 This might be for a rinseless wash.
You’re speaking on the yellow or grey?
Yellow @@Phuong_Nguyen_
582 all day wow. Thank you the recommendation bro it’s so slick I am impressed ❤️
Right
If you believe this nonsense I got a bridge in Brooklyn I could sell you if you're interested
I like the 582. It’s the only sealant we use. We also rebottle it and sell it to our coating customers as a maintenance spray
Fantastic!
THIS IS THE BEST DETAILING CHANNEL ON THE RUclips, PERIOD!
😂 thank u!!
Exact! 👍
No doubt
thanks for the honest review...graphine is the new marketing word
I don’t have anything against graphene products but I like the 582 better in this case.
man, awesome video, exactly something that I wanted to see!!!
apparently the magic dust aint improving the product, maybe will have better durability who knows but I love 582, to me is much better than Bead Maker, keep bringing this content, really like your videos
582 is excellent
If you think this video was awesome I got a bridge in Brooklyn I could sell you. Why is it everybody who is uneducated in the detailing industry think that these videos are real life test of products that are nothing but scams.
I agree. The graphene is slower. I think until they find a better way to introduce graphene I think ceramic is the way to go. Maybe in the future graphene will be the way but for now the science just isn't there to convince me that it's a better product.
Some graphene products work well. Whether it’s the graphene or not remains to be heard. But the Tech Choice GrapheneType is not better than their 582 ceramic one
I’ve used TEC 582, as a topper it will last 4 - 5 weeks as standalone a 2 - 3 weeks, hoping that the graphene version has better longevity
Ok, good to know. The graphene I’ve tested on my other car and got a few months out it at before it started to break down.
I'm in the same boat, about 4-6 weeks durability on the Tec582. It's so easy to apply and remove that a few more weeks of durability isn't important to me since I wash my vehicles regularly. Based upon the price, I find the 582 a better value, especially when you can get it on sale for $32/gal.
The thing I can think of where the 584 might be better is for a detailer doing a maintenance wash for a customer and they want to add a topper for a little extra hydrophobicity and slickness for the customer. The Tec582 will already do this, but supposedly the 584 will last a little longer.
The 582 looks and smells like it would taste good.
😂
Just discovered your channel and really enjoying it. I'm a new weekend warrior. I put Cquartz Lite on my car. Looking for your recs on top 1-2 values/favorites in these: topper for coating, snow foam, wheel and tire cleaner safe for coating. Thank you for your time!
Gyeon Ceramic Detailer, McKee’s Ceramic Detailer, or you could use a spray and rinse like Wet Coat from Gyeon or Hydro Blue from McKee’s, Manett’s Megashine also has some nice products like this. There are so many good ones out there. Snow foam, same companies, McKee’s 37 has Sio2 soap, gyeon has Bathe, Foam, Restart Wash, or Foam. As far as wheel cleaners, you have again, many choices, maybe try PRO Products Wheelie Clean( I like it’s dilution ratios) but the above mentioned companies also have plenty to offer for wheels as well. Look through my videos, I use all these. Thank you for watching!
@@DetailingBreakdown thank you for the quick reply. I'll definitely check those out.
@@Owen_Charles.11 anytime
582 will definitely feel better and you will definitely like it more.
Ya, I can see in person that is the way to go unless it doesn’t last as long
I was my car weekly or every 10 days. Is ok to apply TC 584 each time that I wash? Also would this work as an drying aid or its best to apply product like how you're doing in the vid? Thanks.
U can try as a drying aid and if it works sure. Maybe cut it 1:1. I don’t think u need it weekly but once again if that makes u happy do it.
i really hope graphene becomes more functional the science is there just hard to apply practically, ceramic so far has hit their stride i think i would stick to those for awhile
Ya, I don’t think so much about it. I just try out products. If they work, I don’t care what’s in them. Always looking for the best deal on a product that works.
@@DetailingBreakdown cant agree more
The science is not there I don't know where you get that information from.
@@DetailingBreakdownYes in these manufacturers bank on guys like you who will fall for anything they tell him. Do you buy bridges because I have one I could sell you
@@willsrestorations actually taking my time to do research on the product, graphene is more then a protective coating if you didn’t know… its new and apparently better then ceramic if applied correctly
Have you done a 3/ 6 month longevity test of these two products, to see which one holds up the best.
No I haven’t
@@DetailingBreakdown There's been a lot of good talk also about TEC426 Aqua Glow
@@seabreezeof I’m sure, because it’s a good spray wax product. But I think these 2 in my video will do a better job of protecting your paint
Have you used the ceramic coating by tech choice, been wanting to try it . If so what are your thoughts?
I haven’t, sorry.
Interesting video and comparison. In your opinion, what is the advantage to using the spray device you used? Was it recommended for these products?
It’s just a Flairisol sprayer. They atomize very well. Not needed but I have a few empties so I used them.
I prefer the shedding over the beading. But that’s just me.
I understand and ur right but I like them beautiful little beads.
I'm in the opposite boat as you. I've used 582 for most of this year as a ceramic coating topper, but I just got a gallon of 584. I noticed that 584 is a little grabbier on application than 582. My plan is to use 582 at 1:1 as a drying aid for rinseless washes and use 584 when doing full details when there's been some time between washes.
Haha, yes 584 is more tacky. I think your plan is good.
@@DetailingBreakdown I'm in Vegas as well so based on how quickly you responded, I know what time it is. Hope I didn't wake you, haha.
@@el__2handed I’m always awake early. No problem
Yes feel is very important to me. So is depth and gloss and longevity..
Right on, kinda hard to have all those in 1. But this is a great product (either of them) for the price
@@DetailingBreakdown I can sacrifice a little longevity for really good slickness and depth and gloss. .
Just curious if you’ve compared Tec582 to Phoenix Titan spray. Could you please let me know? I’m not a big fan of beading but rather love products that sheet water quickly
Both bead so they will sheet if u flood the panel. Both are slick. Love both. Buy what’s easier for u to get
Doesn't matter if it beads up faster. There is definitely more water left on the panel with the ceramic. The graphene gets more water off the panel for sure.
It won’t hurt my feelings if u buy the graphene. These are my opinion on both at my view. Thanks for watching
Damn Bro, you're gonna run out of room if you keep buying gallons of products. You have a serious arsenal of detailing tools. High dollar polishers, extractors to name a few.
What do you normally work on when that Mercedes isn't around?
Haha, it’s just accumulating stuff over time. I have a 9-5 and squeeze in anything I can in between. It relaxes my mind.
584 as I just purchased 303 graphene nano spray
So u have 2 graphene products?
Great video , isnt it easier to use tec choice 582 as spray and rinse? Thanks
I’ve never tried a spray n rinse with it.
@@DetailingBreakdown
Try , just aim 582 tech choice spray on pressure water and go over it .
@@jules198625 I guess I have to try now. Ty
The yellow one looked better to me as well. How did you like using the products in those sprayers?
Love the sprayers
@@DetailingBreakdown what sprayers are these?
@@vincentjones278 flairisol
@@DetailingBreakdown thank you so much and love your content so far.. also I love 582 use it at the shop I worked at when it first came out great product i have to get some here soon keep up with the videos 💯
@@vincentjones278 that’s awesome! I saw Amazon had gallons of it on sale yesterday for $37
i did the grahene coating from turtle wax would you go with the 582 or the 584
I like 582 but since u used graphene then go with 584
They say the Tech 582 has a very short durability life, hopefully the G-Max last longer?
I had G-Max go 2 months before showing signs of wear.
Thanks for the review, was great. How is the chemical resistance.
I’m not sure as I don’t put harsh chemicals on my car. Maybe a high PH soap here n there. This lasts me about 6-8 weeks in my climate. It’s fantastic for the price. Highly recommend it.
@@DetailingBreakdown thank you for the speedy response. The reason why I ask this question is most people in my country wash there car with harsh chemicals, example dishwasher etc.
@@shamieghbehardien2710 I’ve never really used that soap so I’m not sure
@@DetailingBreakdown thank you and thank you again for your review.
I don't think graphene is cracked up to be as good as ceramic coatings are right now. But maybe in a year or two graphene will be the king of coatings.
Yes, you’re right about that!
That's because scientifically there is no physical or chemical way to apply a graphene across a painted surface evenly. It is the biggest scam perpetrated on the American car owner in many many many years. If you believe that graphene or infused graphene in these products are doing anything then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I could sell you but you're going to have to pick it up cuz I can't ship it
Thank you
I will see if Pan the Organizer has done video on these.................
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Awesome head to head video B.where did u get those spray bottles?can u shoot me an link.b well good friend
Amazon, or beauty supply stores. Here is a link but I’m not sure it’s the same one I bought. Looks similar. Beautify Beauties Hair Spray Bottle - Ultra Fine Continuous Water Mister for Hairstyling, Cleaning, Plants, Misting & Skin Care (5 Ounce) www.amazon.com/dp/B07GRD5WLD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_3C45WV3NX6682T91BXCS
So which detailer should I get for my ceramic coating
582
@@DetailingBreakdown Thx already on order
@@djsthemetereman 👍
What machine polisher is that? I need a small wireless one like that?
Flex PXE-80
How often fo they recommend applying 582? Like every 4th wash? Monthly? Curious what you've seen before it begins to stop beeding, ty.
About 8 weeks I would apply more. It will still be there but not like day 1
@@DetailingBreakdown any down sides to applying it once a week?
@@TXAslingr u waste product
Do you think the 582 could be used as a lubricant with a decontamination towel?
I’d use this instead ruclips.net/video/4SNV5ftArts/видео.htmlsi=yjOBaKq6DjaG6Lio
Im alo from Vegas! Were you able to get these local? Thanks!
No, online
Would you recommend this over mckees graphene detail spray?
Ya, I think this over many products as it’s cheap and works just as well or better.
Can both be used as a daily detailer at a diluted ratio?
Sure
@@DetailingBreakdown what kind of ratio would you use? 3-4 oz per gallon of water?
@@edsmale I would use it 1:1
Jeremy Lefebvre wants his theme music back
😂
What spray bottle are you using?
Something like this. Beautify Beauties Hair Spray Bottle - Ultra Fine Continuous Water Mister for Hairstyling, Cleaning, Plants, Misting & Skin Care (5 Ounce) www.amazon.com/dp/B07GRD5WLD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_3C45WV3NX6682T91BXCS
Can either be used as a drying aid?
Sure can
Great Vid
Thank u
Any link on 584 G-Max ?
Amazon is where I got mine
can you use this as a dry aid to clean windows?
It’s not going to clean anything but it can be a drying aid
Both are good products. The graphine will last longer
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Lol he said feel your car 😂
Actually he said "if you like to feel your car"?
Sure I like to feel my balls too, but I'm not going to advertise it. LMAO!
Would be nice to review tec 585 graphene coating
I’ll keep that in mind ty
What spray bottles are those?
Flarosol spray bottles
The graphene clearly states not to soak it for about 4 hours after applying for cure time. This test is inaccurate
What’s inaccurate? That they both worked pretty good or that I like the 582 better? 😂.
Graphene spray takes approximately 4 hours too fully bond, not 20 mins. I've been using it for several years, I've been detailing 13 years. Ceramic beads and sheds faster, graphene is more resistant to elements and is longer lasting than ceramic.
@@frelmar I’m glad u like it better. I don’t like it better. It has particles that get all over the sprayer. It’s not night and day difference from 582. The choice is definitely yours. Thanks for your info.
To each his own... Just sharing facts; what you do with it is up to you
@@frelmar I appreciate your facts even though it won’t change anything. 582 is very good and cheaper and cleaner to use.
What dilute Ratio is best for Tech 582?
Straight
we use 3 to 1 and it works very well.
I noticed it will sometimes causes streaking if you use it straight
I would like to contact you personally, but not sure how to... I've not uploaded anything yet, but I have a guy that knows how to edit at least now... Would you be into doing a co-op with you using tech choice ceramic coating, me doing tech choice graphing coating? Not a competition, but a comparison, independently? Will use my own car, which needs a TON of Correction prior
I appreciate it but after thinking about it, I’m not really interested in ceramic coatings. I have about 20 sitting here that everyone sends me and I have no desire to use them.
@@DetailingBreakdown fair enough
@@frelmar ty
No clue either of them, as I have never seen or heard of them here in Finland, but in some test on youtube the Tec 582 was a let down, so I'll say G-max is better. Edit: And thanks for the great videos!
Thanks for watching
582
Guga Food?
Maybe
Leave them in the sun and report back monthly to check for durability.
That car stays outside most the day. I’ll do the best I can for the remaining time I have the car.
Hydro2 vs
@@francoismarcil9242 ???
Carprohydro2 vs this ?
Any link to these products?
Just use Amazon and order them.
Plus the yellow smells like pineapple😜
Easy choice
Great video. What you may or may not know the 582 adds a layer of flame retardant to the car. Just wait till one day your wife pisses you off and you go to torch her car with some gas and blow torch and it won’t light. So not sure if putting this on is a good thing or not atleast on the wife’s car.
Lol, I’m not sure how to react to that
You put nothing in your comments. I will not subscribe
What r u talking about?
@@DetailingBreakdown maybe he wanted you to put links to all the products you used in the video under your video description ? 🤔
@@kirkwilson5900 ohh, then ya, he is right. But anyone can Google it.
582
Yes!!