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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Russia is a great place to raise a child. Especially Beslan 2004
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They are still holding Putin hostage like that. He can't do anything because they have guns and he shares his appreciation for life with his friends (it's as if he's stuck in Pakistan and is calling us for help). That's why he said everything was normal
Make a video about Ryazan sugar (how russia blew their own apartment buildings to legitimize the start of war in Chechnya)
@@maqwerderwuwilliam how tf it should legitimize the second chechen war if chechens invaded Dagestan by themselves
How did we go from “we won’t use force” to this absolute clusterfuck
"...at least 80% of the hostages were killed by indiscriminate Russian fire."
That's why you don't ask the Russian Army to deal with terrorists when they have hostages
They *will* use force
A lot of it
Russia: we will not attack , calm down, we wanna talk
*still attack*
@@lioninjawarloc I remember there was a guy with an orange label on his backpack who was trime traveling in reverse
the first guys on scene were the local militia of ossetia, which is a republic within russia, the ossetians and vainakh (chechens and ingush) people were involved in a brutal ethnic conflict at the time so a lot of the stupidity was surrounding this.
@@lioninjawarloc even though it wasnt really their fault that some if the hostages suffocated
How tf do you bring enough fire power to level a city block, focus it on one building, yet 13 people manage to get by you? One of them long enough to get lynched by civilians?
the islamist that was lynched was trying to hide among the wounded, they figured out he was a terrorist because he wore those fingerless leather glove thingys. so they killed him.
@@Oscar-ds2vb csgo drip betrayed the man
"Look uh commander we just thought they were bodies being thrown by the explosions.....how could we see they were running
It's the Russian army. Competency is not its strong suit.
@@vedantbelurkar imagine your military was so god damn incompetent it tooks a mob of angry parents to finish the job.
The one day you missed school:
lmfao☠️
Besides, 1st September is the first day of a school year in post-USSR countries (not sure about Baltic), after three months of holidays.
@@Gegebaka Yes, you are correct. Here in Baltics is same. 1st September School year starts.
@@kkarhiiv95 in moldova is also so
Lol
I like how the Wikipedia article says the tanks DESTROYED the terrorists while the others were simply killed
I mean it ain’t wrong. Those terrorists definitely got DESTROYED
@@Phantom-bh5ru Nothing left of them. Just a few bits of bones and a red poodle
@@sarminder4357 poodle :)
In all seriousness, this was a great tragedy and people of Russia are still remembering it with fear.
Does it look like any of these fuckos care
“Under no circumstances should you call Russian military or security services to your location.” -Thomas Paine, Common Sense
@@DogeickBateman I like how people in the West always stay the same. You're coward enough to joke about Jews in Holocaust or Black people and slavery/lynching, but you feel so empowered when you can joke about Russians and other people who were genocided by Chechen zealots. Finally, you can dehumanize and hate someone so openly, probably feels like a fresh breath for such a pathetic scumbag like you are. I'm not even surprised of seeing anti-semitic videos on your account. One can only imagine how you will be pissing your pants when someone in your surrounding finds out about your beliefs and ruins your life. Just like thousands of your mates got their lives ruined before. Or whatever you pussies fear the most. At least you can always hide and shitpost something edgy on RUclips as your personal free space :>
The Russian federation times are even wilder than the Soviet union
@@DogeickBateman What are you supposed to do when there are nearly a thousand hostages? There were people in the building busting out of the seams. Of course there will be collateral damage. Maybe it was a but excessive to bring explosives and incendiary ammo but what do I know.
You forgot the part where some parents of these captived children lost patience before the police and army, decided to open fire themselves.
Incredible.
This is more second amendment than the second amendment
"fine, I'll do it myself." -some Russian mom of five, 2004
@@vladimiradidas1945 several seconds before firing into the windows, killing 7 hostages and injuring 18
@@kv4648 sounds about right
2:11 The Russian Goverment investigated the Russian Goverment and decided that the Russian Goverment never did anything wrong
Nothing changed since then. "No reason not to trust what police officer said" is a real quote from one of russian's court decisions.
Happens every time
@@AyoKeito To be fair. That also sounds like something a US court would say.
@@Casshio honestly, yeah. Russian court is not exclusively shitty. US still has its Snowden.
@@Casshio and I remember how US court given sentences to American war criminal in My Lai Massacre...Oh surprise surprise, there isn't any sentence.
That one terrorist that survived long enough to get lynched saw all kinds of shit he did not expect before he died.
He overestimated the Russian government's care for its people.
@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen Based
He's like one of those team mate who log off in near end of match.
@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen A common mistake for beginners
@@randomka-52alligatorthatis34 How is that based, 300 kids died
Negotiator: please release the hostages!
Militant: No!
Negotiator: Well I tried. Ivan get the flamethrower
"Ok this is the law enforcement force of Russian Federation. Your action is considered terrorist act in the Russian criminal code. Pls release the hostage to keep your own life"
"No way Russian b*tch"
"Well, its time for some nuke, comrade"
Fun fact: many of the important personalities that offered to mediate were prevented from doing it. It's very likely that the rus gov intentionally made the talks break down to create a useful tragedy
Wtf you are talking about? Terrorists themselves demanded certain negotiators and they came.
@@mrmakhno3030 “sergei get the obiekt 148”
@@scarab2622 There was nothing to negotiate for. These psychos wanted Russia to declare chechnya independent. Why would they in their right mind ever do that?
This makes Waco look like a child’s birthday party.
More like a little brawl
@@DasKaiserManfred just your average fight in a pub vs somebody bombing the pub and the surrounding town
Waco was still worse, as the government murdered those people out of hand. Not saying the Russians did better, but at least there were hostage taking terrorists there, more than can be said for Waco, Waco was the government showing you there IS NO escape.
Chances are, it was at least one of those kids' birthday.
In a way it was.
American: The police is cowards, they didn't do anything to rescue the children in that school shooting.
Russian police: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
shock and awe
They did everything they could to handle the hostage situation. Tank and attack helicopter included. Incendiary and explosive bullets.
ngl buddy I think it's a little different case, but whatever :)
@@madbrokendream7653 they thought the school building itself was holding the kids hostage
@@papa_ptthis is what police brutality can look like
"We will not use force to rescue the hostages"
(Explosion is heard)
"On second thought-"
We will not use force to "rescue" the hostages, however...
We will not use force to rescue the hostages, however this is not a rescue
The best part is that nearly all witnessess claim the first shots were fired from outside into the school...
Also the idea of claiming not wanting to use force while also wheeling in tanks, attack helicopters, and FLAMETHROWERS is wild af.
Like did not one soldier go "huh... maybe indiscriminate rocket attacks and firebombing will hurt the hostages"
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 no, you see, they were not using force to RESCUE the hostages, perfect logic, 10/10
"good thing we brought the tank, the BTR, the attack helo to the hostage situation, oh and get me the thermobaric rocket launchers... what is vasily doing with that flamethrower?... oh well he passed basic training so who am i to say anything, lets solve solve this problem by turning it all into a fine red mist boys"
You know you're fk'ed up as a hostage when you see your would-be rescuers bring flame throwers,Schmels, APCs, MBTs and attack helicopters in the rescue operation
Lucky enough for them, Putin didn't use his Cheget to "rescue" the hostage 😂
Ah yes, Russia, the country where in a hostage crisis your hostage takers who mistreat you severely are somehow the safer option to the people supposed to rescue you
The Shmel were the Flamethrowers.
To be more correct it was elimination operation. Saving hostages was collateral task, main task was to kill or capture all terrorists.
Yes, that was really harsh policy, but you must know context before this situation. After this any serious attemps to take hostages from chechens was meaningless - goverment shoved clearly, that army forces will try to kill ghem at any cost, disregard the losses of hostages.
This happened during the second Chechen war, so they were pretty much under martial law at the time. Though I admit it's quite unbelievable they went through these great lenghts and still failed spectacularly. I actually had to google it to make sure it wasn't some shitpost.
Imagine being the kid who skipped school the day the siege happened
It was on 1st of September, when in Russia there're big mandatory ceremonies because of the begining of the studying year
@@kxmapperthe kid who was very late must’ve seen everything
@@kxmapperKid could have been sick
@@floridaball4896 yea, that would be very lucky
bro acting like kids cant skip school@@kxmapper
They used thermobarics in a hostage situation....
*_THEY USED THERMOBARICS IN A FUCKING HOSTAGE SITUATION_*
Only in Russia
What are thermobaric bombs?
@@user-uf3tr5bp9dafaik they are explosive devices that upon detonating suck in air suffocating people nearby (if they didnt die as a result of explosion itself)
@@user-uf3tr5bp9dleftist buzzword
@@user-uf3tr5bp9d Bombs that disperse aerosolized that is to say gaseous or liquid or powder dispersed in the air as to be practically gaseous, fuels into an environment and then lights aforementioned fuel. They often kill people no through the fire but through the differences in pressure they create. Which are known to cause agonizing deaths.
"International law does not prohibit the use of flamethrowers on terrorists"
Gigabrain moment
Ahh yes loopholes
get yo ass outta here wars aint for someone that watches anime go back watching your anime kiddo
Neither does it ban using flamethroqer on hostages.
“But sir what about the rescue operation?”
“Rescue? Isnt this a raid on a terrorist base?”
Raid, Rescue
Eh they both start with an R
Same thing
The American response: couple of armed police
The Russian response: THE WHOLE GODDAMN ARMY
You forgot the most important part about American response
The police just stands outside and prevents anyone from going in to rescue the kids.
One edgy 18 and an armed group of militants need different reactions
That's why it's rare.
Casualty:terrorist:20 death(possible half from suicide belt)
:russian army: 10 injured 5 dead
:hostages 300 released 300 dead from russian airstrike
Basiclly every hostage islamist terrorist situation in russia
Chechen hostage takes and bombings were common in Russia since the 90s - ofcourse it makes sense sending the army, since its not the first "barbeque" :D
“We showed ourselves to be weak, and the weak get beaten”
Typical words of a free country
*meanwhile looks at the war in Ukraine*
Well he's not wrong
@@dragon_ninja_2186 1/3rd the Russian army single-handedly taking on the combined weapons vehicles funding ammunition intelligence technology and training facilities of 20 countries and still winning the war while cnn and reuter and other western news agencies come out and say nato is literally running out of ammo with the worst economies they’ve had in decades and Russia is unaffected by the sanctions… 👀
Isn't that a good thought? Most of the powers of the world are such animals, so it is, so to speak, unprofitable to be looking weak in their eyes.
@@user-ve3hs5hq5i its true, weaker countries get screwed over by stronger countries, always happens
This siege was the inspiration for creating Fuze in Rainbow Six Siege when the developers were deciding what operators to add for hostage rescue.
love going fuze in hostage
only weaklings avoid launching grenades into hostage room
Wasn’t it the theatre one? The one where they pumped gas into the building killing a lot of the hostages?
Gameplay:"Deploying cluster charge "
Reality:"We don't have cluster charges but we have this"
*Loading Shmel thermobaric rockets*
@@puma2334 no one was killed in the theater rescue.
British people realizing they can’t make fun of American shootings for being the worst
Yea school shootings are rare but can happen anywhere (even in states that are strict on guns). Honestly if anything the Brits should make fun of our mental health
@@enriqueperezarce5485 To make fun of something someone else doesn't have you need to have it.
Exactly🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@@enriqueperezarce5485 in the uk we don't have any
@@enriqueperezarce5485 if they are so ¨rare"then why do they happen all the time in America?
Russian government: we really appreciate our heroes, unlike the American government
Also Russian Government: oh my god, he has a Chechen name, GET HIM.
US: oh my God, he's a straight white man, GET HIM
Russian veterans wish they'd get treated as well as American vets and I'm not saying American vets get treated well, I'm saying that Russia is fucking trash and we should stop comparing ourselves with it.
@@lemieux-z8933 Lol you wish. Reality: oh my god it's a trans person, get him/her!
@@zippyparakeet1074 even better
Russia goverment: wow you Americans are so anti Muslims. I mean you freak out when you heard a Arabic name.
American goverment : *name a Chechen name*
Russia goverment : listen here you little shit and why those group are a plague!
Everything about this was excessive, but let's linger on them bringing flamethrowers to a hostage situation. What the fuck? The weapon is from over 50 years ago so someone had to put in deliberate effort to specifically equip the "rescue" forces with some. This is a 2004 school not a 1940's German pillbox. It's the one piece of technology that has the exact opposite effect of a counterterrorist sharpshooter, even more so than the goddamn tanks and attack helicopters with rockets. It does not neutralize quickly, it spreads to unintended targets and surroundings, and they KNEW the school had a gas line. Just...wtf.
The army unit sent to engage in counter terrorist operations was clearly disorganized and not trained for hostage situations. It's much more likely that the soldiers simply grabbed the weapons they were issued for their standard squad structure, and nobody was paying enough attention to say "hey give those guys extra rifles instead of flamethrowers and anti tank grenade launchers".
Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity.
That's still mild when you consider they even bring RPG-26, Schmel, Mi-24s and armoured vehicles into the rescue operation like wtf lol
Not to mention, the flamethrowers were special
It was something like a rocket launcher with thermobaric projectiles that incinerate everything in counted milliseconds. Using weapons of terror as per usual…
Russian army Uraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.🤓
they propably had orders to kill as many hostages as possible to make public opinion furious at chechens.
I’m Ossetian and we still hold “minute of silence” every first September at Ossetia at school to mourn Beslan children
In Moscow schools we did too
North or South?
Земляк, выходит
I remember this event from news. It was horrifying to listen about children dying for few days straight. Like, 300 people lost in a terror attack do not happen that often anymore
They don't make terrorism like they used to. :^)
I mean, now those children would be 20+ and would get a chance at fertilizing ground in Ukraine so being a Russian is a lose-lose scenario
@@freddekl1102 I hope it is joke:D
@@freddekl1102 what is fucking wrong with you people? Do you even have slightest respect for these children and their parents? "They would get a chance at fertilizing ground in Ukraine" Are you really trying to be the worst clown around here?
@@freddekl1102 that’s fucked up
US: he has Arab name, get him
Russia: he has Chechen name, get him
I don't think the US ever bombed their own ethnic minority so viscerally before just yet. Hanged some a few decades back though.
Facts 😂
one thing is common...both are musl
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Well, the end times are near or has started
@@brownerjerry174 Never ask the Christians why they killed 70-90% of Circassian Muslims in the name of the bible
To all the MF's who didn't think Fuse was a realistic representation of a Russian antiterrorism operator.
been laughing at this for 30 minutes now
well, antiterrorism alright.
The Russian army be like: We Did It, Patrick! We Saved the City!
@@altithoraxperotorum5133 you didn get the joke. Itś a reference from spongebob where the city was burned.
@@altithoraxperotorum5133 ratio
People who ran from Russia didnt dodge a bullet, they dodged a whole nuke
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were do you get reliable information on things like this every country have a different story
"a" nuke?
Which century exactly
@@Mohamedhassan-ox8kp what are you talking talking about?
"We have taken hostages!"
"I don't see how that's my fucking problem."
stupid russian governement 😂😂
2:14 Technically you can't use tear gas against the enemy invading you because it "delivers inhumane suffering", but you can against your own population. 🤔
B-b-but Their great grandfather joined the ROA during ww2!-some random RT NEWS reporter
EDIT:if you dont know about roa its basiclly a wemracht/waffen SS division full of soviet collaborators who defected to the nazis
The us uses it too, a lot of countries do in fact, its kinda fucked
Don't they tear gas people in the army to prepare them for if they ever run into it on the battlefield?
@@HitachiTRQ-225 but not in war....cause Geneva...or some bitch I can't remember and neither do the Japanese
@@HitachiTRQ-225 Geneva Conventions don't apply to your own population
"Hostages only work when your enemy cares if they live."
-War Criminal in Chief, Commander Shepard
Adrian?
@@denifnaf5874more like general shepherd
you could call this "mission failed succesfully"
Which, to Put in, it was good enough. I think Feature History said that they viewed it "it was a failure, yes... but it was not a defeat"
Just a few nuclear warheads short of "fission mailed"
@@tylerphuoc2653 tf u babbling about
1 random dude: manages to escape
Citizens: *WOOOO YEAH BABY THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!*
Some context from a russian:
1) Second chechen war (as first one) was ended because of elections, but there was shitton of different field generals that wanted to continue war with russia and all neighbours;
2) Chechen soldiers were not just some random dudes with ak-47, but a soldiers with a high morale. Not alot of chechen soldiers surrendered during wars with them;
3) Also russian was in great shitty competition with chechnya about "who will mutilate body of captured soldiers even more hardcore?" Which resulted in both sides having a reputation of absolute maniacs, and getting captured basically meant a death sentence;
4) In the end of august one suicide woman blowed herself up killing 10 people, which screwed up later negotiations even more;
5) School getting captured, be usual russian police officer: hostages already getting killed inside the school by chechens, people several days without food or water, chechen soldiers also put explosive devices everywhere using time they had, negotiations are failed several times already. Your face be like:
6) Fuckthis.jpeg Assault starts. Absolute chaos and missfire starts. Chechen soldiers got bonus points for shooting random running kids and people while russians got -5;
7) Shamil Basayev after this little prank gets an honor of #1 terrorist in russia and wanted by everyone dead. After 1.5 years he lost in that cat and mouse game;
8) After all of that some scumbag claims that he is medium and he will ressurect dead children of grieving mothers and asks money for that;
Also recommend to check other fights from both chechen wars. One is already a meme (Do Men Even Have Feelings vid.) and other is about 80 soldiers against 2000 chechens (bad ending)
Wait I can't find any info on the other one
@@imcool2931 I believe he is talking about Battle for Height 776
too long, didn't read, russian bad, you bot
@@duongngole4785 I blame the industrial revolution and its consequences that have been a disaster for the ruman race
@@duongngole4785 you're a bot kid.
This sounded like a horrible situation handled terribly by nearly everyone involved.
no shit sherlock (but seriously there are rumors of the russian government intentionally breaking down negotiations to keep anti-Chechen sentiment high, so some of this could be deliberate)
Ultimately there probably wasn't much the Russian government could have done. The terrorists demanded that Russia recognize the independence of Chechnya, something which Russia for many reasons would never do. So either the terrorists let everyone die from thirst or hunger, or kill them with explosives. If they are going to die anyway, it's better that it happens in a way which terrifies and discourages other would-be terrorists. This is a policy called "no negotiating with terrorists", and there is a reason many governments espouse it: if you do negotiate with terrorists and they get some concessions, it encourages other terrorists. So while this is obviously a horrible tragedy, it is at least somewhat possible to justify the actions of the Russian government here.
Russia just came out of the 90s, basically one of the worst periods for the country outside the 2nd world war. It was still recovering, and it didn't help that the entire situation was so dire.
@@unterhau1102 but come on flamethrowers in a hostage situation? this is just stupidity on a whole another level
@@Scourgeoftengri All of those hostages were already dead or had escaped by the time they used the flamethrowers
Watching this entire video was like watching a train from the distance get closer and closer to crashing until it finally does and all hell breaks loose.
"We have hostages!"
"Use armor-piercing rounds."
Literally just learnt about this in university today.
It was about post Cold War terrorism.
Try seach Moscow theater bombing
I hope you mean learning the exact chain of events and not that you never heard about this until going to a uni.
Was it during the “terrorism justification” course?
Same 💀
I mean, I joke about 9/11, so joking about Beslan is fair game too. But let me give some context to this
1. Russia/SU doesn't have hostage situations often. With terrorist this armed too. There were simply no proper training of police for dealing with stuff like this.
2. Police was in a sorry state since end of 80s. It lacked arms, training, technologies, even dedicated spec ops units were majorly unprepared for dealing with 2 dozen of armed trained terrorists
3. Terrorist had no plans of actually cooperating. 3 days spent trying to find a way to make them release hostages were simply wasted.
4. Terrorists spent those 3 days making the school into a fortress with traps, machine gun implacement and barricaded rooms with extra arms and ammo. They knew school's layout and planned this since the beginning. Including using hostages as human shields
5. School was giant, yet most hostages were kept in closed gym and other rooms with ventilation that couldn't keep up with hundreds of people. It was also very hot, hostages never had any food or water. By the third day most were incapable of escaping on their own legs.
This only meant one thing and one thing only: it wasn't a race against the clock, as that already failed. It was a matter of saving as much people as possible. Because either they killed by the scum that kept them there, they will die of severe dehydration or you they are killed in the attempt of storming the building. I am not defending anyone here, but the soldiers and the police were fighting a losing battle. The chaos that ensued only proves the points above: orders were stupid, planning stopped after initial attack and attack was barely coordinated, since the force consisted of severely different people, including armed and unarmed civilians.
And the fact that you don't hear about tradegies like this after 2004 also only proves that necessary steps were done to prevent this from ever happening in last 20 years
Make your own conclusions tho.
Also yeah, a lot of information here is presented in wrong order, skipping context and is largely biased against the police. Again, not defending anyone here, but no grenades were used to clear rooms with confirmed hostages inside and all goverment controlled units only used single/burst action on their guns until the majority of people inside were evacuated. Yes, even if those units had to fight through areas of school with no confirmed hostages
yeah thats why american hostage negotiators wouldve given them food water and medicine like they asked
" the fact that you don't hear about tradegies like this after 2004 also only proves that necessary steps were done to prevent this from ever happening in last 20 years" would apply if the majority of those hostages were killed by the hostage takers. Which isn't the case. This was beyond a fuck up for the Russian security forces.
@@lolihitler4198 there were no negotiators. Only 1 person managed to speak with terrorists face to face inside the building. And wouldn't you know, terrorist said "no" to every one of his requests. This isn't a matter of country, buddy, negotians were screwed from the beginning
Very informative comment. It’s appreciated.
I remember this event.
At primary school we wrote cards of condolences to the bereaved. Mine had on the cover, the flag of the Russian federation and the other the old soviet union flag.
And I wrote the words, time heals all wounds.
Holy s***! Was I such an insensitive little prick. If I could time travel, I'd smack my junior self across the back of head. And also warn him, "Ask dad to help you study for a-levels!!!"
Ha! Don’t worry Man U were a kid, also a levels are tough and held in a time of our lives where we’re so young but faced with deciding what we wanna do for the rest of our lives that’s so hard.
If I could go back I’d tell myself to study more too but I can’t so imma just do the best I can now.
@@Bornst3ll3r
I understand.
The past cannot be changed
So imma start my phd soon.
@@seanturner1197 Do great things with it for the people of the world.
@@Shaker626 I will try.
Damn
Forgot to mention how Putin walked out like 30 minutes into the victims' funeral service, because he got bored of it or something (that was also the only time he ever made a state visit to the Ossetian Oblast)
man I'm really starting to think that this Putin guy is kinda mean
very trustful words from guy who calls North Ossetian Republic a Ossetian Oblast
@@ye11owman29 just a tiny bit tho
btw he went to the parallel universe to honour the victims, cause in that universe there's no such thing as Ossetian oblast
I mean he is a president. He did his part by attending funeral, then he gone to do other important stuff, especially at that time
How to execute a hostage rescue operation
US: SWAT
Chinese: Armed Police
Japanese: run away
Russian: tactical IRBM with nuclear warhead
The japanese example is a reference for something?
in japan they run away until the suspect kills himself.@@jessnalulila5709
@@jessnalulila5709i second that
That some reference?
@@jessnalulila5709 I try look it up in the internet where I found this intriguing case where a Malaysian minister agreed to be swapped with hostages taken by Japanese terrorist before they flew together to Libya for a safe conduct. (1975 AIA crisis)
Still don't know what the OP is trying to say tho
Difference is that there was a war in the region. The way that the US "saved" Iraqi children during the invasion wasn't much better
Большая трагедия. Без шуток
And it’s Russia’s fault
@@bennittotheburrito9606 🤡?
@@k0lliak553is it not russias fault?
@@k0lliak553it is russias fault tho. if not for their warcrimes in chechenya it would have never happened
@@ussindianapolis487 "war crimes in Chechnya" bro 💀So you're just gonna ignore that Ichkeria movement (which is basically the main reason for the Chechen wars) is considered a terrorist organisation INTERNATIONALLY?
My heart breaks for those children and teachers who died in the siege.
America: This town isn't big enough for two supervillains! (Deadliest school shooting killed 33 people)
Russia: Oh, you're a villain alright, just not a super one! (Deadliest school shooting killed 334 people and is considered to be the deadliest school shooting of all time)
in US, the one that got kills are the preparator, while in Russia, the one that get MOST of the kills are the rescuers.
god bless lmao
@@drmaulana2600
In USA army of terrorists don't take in hostages public places with hundreds of civilians
@@drmaulana2600💪😤🇷🇺🇷🇺
>school shooting
Yeah, but remember that Twin-towers-shooting?
This is a terrorist attack, not a school shooting.
Hey, if the police kills the hostages that means that the terrorists can no longer pose a threat to the safety of those hostages.
Also, the russians literally gassed a theater full of hostages to kill some chechen terrorists
This was a sleeping gas, bro.
Google out Israel counter terrorism tactics.
@@jacobfrost2131 sleeping gas made from fentanyl...
"if the police kills the hostages that means that the terrorists can no longer pose a threat to the safety of those hostages"
*black man taps temple*
@@jacobfrost2131 Roof knocking is BASED
@@jacobfrost2131 Sleeping gas that promptly killed 131 of the hostages because of how it worked on the lungs when you're laid out
As an American, I wish I could have just one day where school was this safe.
Yeah I can only dream of being used as a human shield and blasted by the feds
@@PALACIO254 Feel for y'all, you'll probably be at the windows too but the cops outside will be eating donuts than entering 🙌
@@Kryuhunhaput the fat will absorb any damage
@@OsnoloVrach fat also works good as impromtu candle wax in case the cops pull up with thermobaric weaponry
@@Kryuhunhaput how dare you! They'll also practice social distancing and sanitize their hands that's the most important thing
I forgot the exact amount but multiple Russian soldiers died after jumping on grenades to protect the children escaping.
Rest in peace, brave soldiers.
You either die a hero (these guys)
Or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. (The absolute madmen wasting the building with thermobaric weapons, tank shells, grenades, and goddamned air to ground missiles fired by attack helicopters.)
Pff that a lie no orc grunt would do that they prefer use their spawn as meat shield
@@eddy_malouempereur_du_cong6536Exactly, sadly the ghost of Kiev was not present back then, he alone would have protected all the children
@@eddy_malouempereur_du_cong6536at this point it's hard to figure out whether you're trolling or being serious
Why when somebody joking about beslan tragedy, everybody like it
But when i joking about 9/11 tragedy...
You must be new to the internet,9 /11 jokes are everywhere. But they are different. People make fun if the Russian police and military for Beslan because of how the handled it. 9/11 has handled as well as possible.
I also quite enjoyed the 9/11 meme.
Bruh, you haven't seen the 9/11 memes
I'm pretty sure you joke when ukrainian children get killed too yeah, the jokes about Beslan and the Russian Army will continue
Okay?
ruclips.net/video/8hWVSvzh9os/видео.html
All memes and jokes aside this is fucking horrifying even to learn about like I'd put this up with Jonestown on the list of most fucked up events in the last 50 years
No and get lost anyways. Memes and jokes forever. Get lost kiddo
@@Amis5474 why be so needlessly edgy?
normal countries: we don't negotiate with terrorists
russia: we won't be outdone by terrorists
Reminder that the parents of the students surrounded the school with guns and they started firing first which triggered the Russian army to engage
I'm Russian. I wasn't even in Russia when this siege happened, or of an appropriate age to understand what the hell just happened. Later in school, we discussed it with teachers. Not one word of police brutality. I did some research in Russian sources about this, and this situation didn't look like... this much of a clusterfuck. I was shocked when you said that they used *FLAMETHROWERS.* IN A HOSTAGE SITUATION. AND TANKS. AND *FUCKING CHOPPERS.* I never knew that the army was involved in this way, and now I have yet another reason to hate our government which deemed killing more hostages than terrorists did as acceptable. Thanks a lot!
Yes because the "english" side never lies either, totally. You do realize it was amidst the continuation of Chechen guerrilla wars, that chechens themselves targeted civilian buildings, hence why the army was involved?
@@rasputin924 Even if a war going on, it's still not acceptable to bring a flamethrower to a hostage situation because you're going to hit the very hostages you're trying to rescue.
@@reluctantcrusader8455 Yeah. And fire speard too. Seriously who bring flamethrower, tanks, helicopter and RPG to a hostage rescue?
"Flamethrowers" refer to thermobaric munitions shown in the video, i.e. the RPO-A 'Shmel' and RShG (RPG-26 /w thermobaric warhead). Just like a normal flamethrower, these use a flammable liquid to consume the oxygen in the air; the major difference is that the fuel burns so rapidly that it produces a blast wave, but is not particularly effective at setting things on fire.
As crazy as it sounds, using these correctly could theoretically have reduced casualties by rapidly incapacitating the terrorists due to a combination of temporary oxygen deprivation and a rapid change in ambient pressure (blast followed by vacuum).
Of couse when the thermobarics _did_ manage to start a fire and the military just started unloading with everything they had, any semblance of a plan had gone out the window.
@@maxjoechl5663 well then, what does the use of an anti-tank rocket refers to? Thermobaric munitions can be excused, you yourself mentioned how wild were choppers and tanks, but I can't even begin to comprehend regular troops firing a fucking RPG into a school.
Beslan School Siege is the very definition of how to beat your chess opponent with Brahmos II Supersonic Ramjet Cruise Missile.
this video is the same thing if russian guy was joking about 9/11 tragedy
People joke about 9/11 all the time nowadays
Firstly people make jokes about 9/11 all the time secondly 9/11 wasn’t the result of negligence and incompetence on the governments behalf
@@bennittotheburrito9606 so u wanna say that islam terrorists attacked the school because russian government was negligent??? It means 30+ shooting in US school were also because incompetence of govenment?
@@zmitforchik9461 I mean that's literally the truth. If our government was more competent and didn't constantly try to destroy or dominate itself from within. There would have been significantly less shootings.
This video released right after i finished reading the beslan school siege’s wikipedia page, i swear to god on my life. What a amazing coincidence.
Same brother
Same, frequency bias is odd.
Interesting point is that members of the Russian Alpha Group and Vympel Group, who were assigned to the hostage situation, entered the school without a proper operational plan when an explosion occurred and heroically rescued the hostages. Below are some examples.
Colonel Oleg Ilyin (Олег Геннадьевич Ильин)
Field chief of operation. Fight off the terrorists and cover the escaping children and emergency responders. During the battle, he was mortally wounded, losing one eye and ear, but died from excessive blood loss while protecting his children.
Major Roman Katasonov (Роман Юрьевич Катасонов)
Despite being on leave, he voluntarily went to Beslan. He rescues two children trapped in a room. He died while charging at a terrorist armed with a heavy machine gun so that they could escape safely.
Major Vyacheslav Malyarov (Вячеслав Владимирович Маляров)
He was once involved in the Moscow theater hostage crisis. During the situation, he was in a hurry and entered the building without any bulletproof gear. As soon as he entered, he discovered the terrorists targeting the hostages and immediately saved them by covering them with his body. He was mortally wounded and died while carrying out his mission to the end.
Lives that could have been saved if there was proper planning by the higher ups.
least evil chechen vs most careful russian
You support Israel then right? Because if Chechens are evil then palestinians are the literal incarnations of devil.
Perfect title
Imagine having a hostage situation and instead of sending specially trained tactical teams to infiltrate the building and neutralize the terrorists you send the army with tanks and helicopters to flatten the building with the hostages still inside.
So waco texas but in russia?
@@UNGOC_Engineer3231 You see, the FBI at least didn't bring thermobaric rockets to Waco
@@UNGOC_Engineer3231 the FBI didn't use rockets, tanks, and helicopters.
@@gibusspy5544 They did use tanks tho
A guy just below you wrote a very good analysis why it happened the way it did. I'm just going to copy and paste it here.
But let me give some context to this
1. Russia/SU doesn't have hostage situations
often. With terrorist this armed too. There
were simply no proper training of police for
dealing with stuff like this.
2. Police was in a sorry state since end of 80s. It lacked arms, training, technologies, even dedicated spec ops units were majorly unprepared for dealing with 2 dozen of armed trained terrorists
3. Terrorist had no plans of actually cooperating. 3 days spent trying to find a way to make them release hostages were simply wasted.
4. Terrorists spent those 3 days making the school into a fortress with traps, machine gun implacement and barricaded rooms with extra arms and ammo. They knew school's layout and planned this since the beginning. Including using hostages as human shields 5. School was giant, yet most hostages were kept in closed gym and other rooms with ventilation that couldn't keep up with hundreds of people. It was also very hot, hostages never had any food or water. By the third day most were incapable of escaping on their own legs.
This only meant one thing and one thing only: it wasn't a race against the clock, as that already failed. It was a matter of saving as much people as possible. Because either they killed by the scum that kept them there, they will die of severe dehydration or you they are killed in the attempt of storming the building. I am not defending anyone here, but the soldiers and the police were fighting a losing battle. The chaos that ensued only proves the points above: orders were stupid, planning stopped after initial attack and attack was barely coordinated, since the force consisted of severely different people, including armed and unarmed civilians.
And the fact that you don't hear about tradegies like this after 2004 also only proves that necessary steps were done to prevent this from ever happening in last 20 years
Make your own conclusions tho
As a Russian, I can confirm that once in a while, somewhere inside our country, it's a COD TDM match between some random militant group and dumber-than-rock foot soldiers
In the Dobrovka theatre siege you can defend the Russians, but here at Beslan their performance was truly abysmal
They smoked the hostage in Dubrovka 😂
@@mrmakhno3030 should have just used heroine laced syringes as bayonets at that point. They straight up OD'd 170+ people
What do you mean you can defend the russians, they literally gassed the hostages and hid the corpses from families to avoid authopsy
131 fatalities out of 850 hostages in Dubrovka, I'm pretty sure that's abysmal as well.
@@mrmakhno3030 In Russia there is no hostage just Unwilling Terrorist
"The russian goverment announced it wouldn't use force to rescue the hostages"
Aaaaand place your bets
Edit: Yup, but way off what I suspected. Also; funny thing how all this lead to Putin consolidating/gaining more power....
never let a crisis go to waste
It always does. His entire career has been about gaining and consolidating more power. It's probably the main reason nobody has tried to kill him. He's just gotten such a tight grip on power even when losing it he still has a lot.
The video does not shares the details how this terrorist act leads to Putin gathering more and more power, and it's indeed a really long sequence of events to analyze and lament on
Just to give an idea on how "local KGB enjoyer bamboozles unsuspecting citizens":
- evening of Sep 3, 2004: the last terrorists are killed,
- Sep 13, 2004: Putin announces a plan of reforms, one of them is to remove elections of the heads of regional government 😊 "because we are facing the hard times and we need to gather up and stay strong 💪"
Imagine cancelling state governors elections after 9/11
The Second Chechen War is basically how and why he is still around.
Bro I'm trying to picture something like that happening to my school, and I just can't. Insane.
I can't comprehend this either
Consider yourself lucky
As far as I know, Poland isn't a multinational country where one of the nations can be pumped with weapons so much that for the sake of their "independence" it will waging war and take hostages. So good for you.
All jokes aside I think these tragic events show how little the life is worth in russia
"We dont negotiate with terrorists" - sound familiar? lmao
@@meganoobbg3387 don't negotiate with terrorists =/= level school with children inside with tanks
@@illiafilatov5521 of course the Americans would not level a school full of children with tanks. That's what predator drones are for.
How did you manage to connect these two absolutely different things together? One's incompetence doesn't mean life is worthless somewhere. Otherwise, according to your logic, the country with the most worthless lives would be USA with its almost daily mass shootings or Afghanistan with its almost daily bombings
@@illiafilatov5521 Russian school was barely damaged compared to schools in Iraq and Syria :D
“Operation successful”
Imagine being the kid who faked being sick that day
"We don't negotiate with terrorists, and we certainly don't negotiate with their hostages"
-Putin
I’m Russian, and I can tell you how are government works in any situations:
- We will not use force to *insert anything*
*Proceeds to fire tank shells, rockets, grenade launchers and refuses to elaborate*
Клименко… sounds Ukrainian to me, bud.
@@user-ru3ne9br2b ну конечно, у нас же в России живут только люди с «русскими» фамилиями, а всех остальных тут переименовывают, ага
@@user-ru3ne9br2b are you gonna beat him to death because his name is different than yours too?
you know what? going to school in the us does not sound so bad anymore.
School shootings are rare here compared to Russia or the middle east, where they arent even reported on anymore
@@RossanaLupa where?
@@gustavesoucy-breton6841 Italia.
@@RossanaLupaschool shootings are just called shootings in Brazil, mostly because it happened in schools or around schools but was just clashes of rival faction of drug dealers.
Playing hooky doesn't seem so morally reprehensible under these circumstances.
Hostage negotiating in the US: "We need to be methodical and deliberate in our approach."
Hostage negotiating in Russia: "Broken Arrow."
Does the US Method work though
@@Johndoe-mv5ii not quite
Well there hasnt been there a major situation recently where hostage negotiations were able to take place. Both Uvalde and nashvilla ended in bloodshed before FBI negotiators could arrive.
@@Johndoe-mv5ii far better than whatever the fuck this was
That's why I like this channel, it's proof that as bad as it is now, it could always be worse.
Lmao
Ох, Википедия... Надёжный источник, xd.
You say there's more casualties?
"We won't use force"
_("Guys we're gonna use ALL the force")_
Hostages? What hostages? I only see terrorist comrade
Now pass me the vodk- rifle
Pass me the rifle
"Uh sorry comrade....we only have rpg 7 and anti tank missile....soo will you take vodka?"
There was some kids that die, fuck them kids!
"Huh, I could have sworn I brought a few bottles of vodka comrade."
*Meanwhile on the other side of the school*
"Hey Boris, I need more fuel for my flamethrower."
"We don't have that much, on the upside, I turned these bottles of vodka into moloktov cocktails."
"Good thinking."
'Everyone may be called comrade, but some comrades have the power of life and death over other comrades.'~Thomas Sowell
This is where tachanka got his highest kill streak
This just kept escalating and escalating and escalating that it stopped being funny and instead was concerning
Good, now make same with with World Traiding Towers
Ok bot
@@DogeickBateman saying kid
And then after that the Moscow Theater siege and their incompetence😊😊
@Osama Bin Laden good, the statue of freedom is very hight tier after Kremlin
@spawnerist to beat something, you have to become something.
Logic 1100 iq
"it is not a war crime if used against terrorists"
It's not a war crime if it is used against your people as well
I mean , yes becase to be something a war crime IT Has to be contacted in an active warzone
American school shootings: Some depressed kid gets a gun and injures several kids and a teacher
Russian school shootings:
I can’t suggest a better solution to a situation where unpredictable checan terrorist planted c4 explosives on the whole building and are wearing explosive belts
Every single new slide was like a punch to the gut.
“If the hostages die then so do you……and any surviving hostages that get in the way.”
Why on earth would a hostage situation need T-72s?
Least Retarded Russian commander i guess
Russians took "there ain't no hostage crisis if there IS NO HOSTAGE" to a new meaning.
The Terrorists had fortified & armed the School & The T-72s were used after most of the Hostages were rescued
@@Johndoe-mv5ii Yeah but why??? Just use the APC or armored fighting vehicle, not using a fucking tank to do it.
@@steammanx the APCs is taking much longer to arrive andthe tanks are probably only the closest one available
Rest in peace to all the innocent children and school teachers who were killed by this siege though. Not only were they taken by some really evil and cunning terrorists, but they also had to deal with the most careless counterterrorists of all time (maybe 2nd to Egypt’s Unit 777). Those Shmel thermobaric rockets are nasty when they hit buildings or fortifications, it’s like a small nuke going off for the people in the blast area. Even if you’re behind cover or wearing body armor, those fuel-air explosives can easily kill you from the concussive blast or extreme overpressure.
school: taken hostage
russian army: send in the whole division
“Man the American government is the worst thing possible, just look at Ruby Ridge!”
Russia:
I hope the lolberterian populist Americ*cks realize this and hop off ruSSia's Kutu.
That is what happens when three different groups are trying to deal with the terrorists, the first of which on the scene is made up mostly of an ethnic group that really hate the different ethnicity the terrorists are from. Basically like telling serbian soldiers to go rescue a school from croatian terrorists in 1990. Didn't help that some of their bombs exploded prematurely and the hostages started running away, so the terrorists ran after them and got shot, so they shot back, and then things kept escalating. And don't forget the group of local parents who probably also started shooting at the terrorists first. This whole thing was an absolute clusterfuck. Literally every second line you read about it is a different brand of stupid or funny on both sides.
I'm shocked the whole thing didn't escalate to the point that Russia deployed their experimental Space Marine units.
the way the russian government used this event to tighten their grip on control is unsettling
Isn’t that what a lot of countries do?
Already a glimpse on Putin's true intentions. I remember this sweeping through the international community and everyone being horrified by how Russia handled things
It's always been Putin's goal. Everything is just an excuse to gain more power.
@@Destroyer2150 It is absolutely terrifying how the US handled 9/11.
@@yaboyed5779 The issue is that this is a consistent theme to extremes. The fact that entire swaths of the Russian population unironically wanted to BAN ethnic Chechens from their cities is alarming. It's like that infamous "Muslim ban" thing in the US but cranked times a thousand.
how does chechen bomb kill 50% of the hostages, and russian fire kill 80%
Only in Russia...
That lie chechens dont have a bomb
In mother Russia, math makes its own sense.
Seems like a normal school day in the U S of A
sounds like cope
Dont remember the last school shooting (anywhere on the world) with 330 casualties my dear Ivan
definitely
@@hodisfut mention how many recently russian school shootings incidents happened on Russia since that incident and compare it to American ones... atleast Russia dint have 5 school shootings incidents per month.
@@hodisfut Well, atleast they don't have them every month.
Me at the time: "playing ps2 at home"
These mofo`s: "playing PUBG in real life at school"
If you're intrested, theres a documentary called Three Days in September that has eyewitness accounts from the Beslan School Seige. My parents watched it when I was a kid roughly around when it came out. Gave me nightmares
Nobody cares about you being kid. Get lost
Imagine being that kid who was left in the bathroom during the lockdown
We wont use force
30 seconds later
Brings out an entire fucking tank
Russians fighting against literally any minority: 😈👹🔥
Russians fighting against Ukraine: 🙈💖✨🍭
minority???? the minority was siege-of-leningrad-ing ONE THOUSAND SCHOOLCHILDREN here
chechens arent russiansukrops are
"they are our brothers"
seeing the comments section here makes me remember a sentence "laugh now, before laughing is forbidden"
It's easy to laugh at your opponent's failures, especially now at an inconvenient time for him.
@@SovPlyushFilm nah, You're just one of the Russian fun police who want to ban people from laughing.
Ah yes, the one and only Wikipedia - NAFO's main source of truth. 🙏
Source: I wrote this by myself bro, It turned out to be a great story