The Casualties of War in Ukraine
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CORRECTIONS AND REMARKS:
- 00:24 - “Denys is due to be relieved from his duties the next morning”: This is a mistake, Denys was due to be relieved in the morning of February 24th.
- 01:49 - “Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022”: Several comments mentioned that the war started in 2014 with the Russian invasion of Crimea. Although the video should have made it clearer, it only discusses the casualties of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine that started in February 2022, as mentioned in the footnote.
- 03:34: Many comments are questioning or denying the claims of forced deportations and child abductions by Russia. I do agree the video should have phrased the claims with “according to [source]” (the point of this video is to discuss who says what, afterall). However, it is my opinion that these claims have to be in the video, especially when they are backed by human rights non-governmental organisations such as the Amnesty International: www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/6136/2022/en/
- 05:20: There were 617,000 Russian troops deployed in Ukraine according to Putin as of Dec 15th 2023. I missed this data because the script was written and recorded before this date.
- A few comments mentioned that Ursula von der Leyen (EU Commission chief) claimed 100,000 Ukrainian military had been killed. I did not include these declarations because they were redacted. The statement allegedly had a mistake was corrected later: www.euractiv.com/section/europe-s-east/news/eu-commission-chief-in-hot-water-over-ukraine-war-loss-estimates/
- This is mentioned in the video description, but I’ll mention it here as well: This video was inspired by ‘The Fallen of World War II’ by Neil Halloran. I strongly recommend it: ruclips.net/video/DwKPFT-RioU/видео.htmlsi=7s-UaMkaIzxR3S76
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You should be using the Western figures published by national governments. Those are the most accurate that we have, as Russia intentionally undercounts their own dead.
"44 million"
That however includes the 7 million of Crimea and Donbass. So no, Ukraine had about 35-37 million population.
"190 thousand soldiers at the Ukraine border""On February 24th"
And on February 14th, Ukraine started mass-shelling Donbass, while marching up 60 thousand troops in blatant preparation to attack, supported by another 100 thousand. This was the direct trigger for the Russian INTERVENTION INTO THE UKRAINE CIVIL WAR that started with the USA/nazi coup of 2014, against Yanukovich, which at the time had over 70% popular support in Ukraine.
"Ukrainian refugees"
You completely ignore that by end of 2021, there were already over 2 MILLION Ukraine refugees in Russia.
And today it is estimated that there is a total of around 5 million Ukraine refugees in Russia.
"forcibly deported by Russia"
No. That propaganda rubbish and you SHOULD KNOW IT.
"children abducted"
So, you actually want those children dead instead? Because they were removed because Ukraine kept shelling civillian areas, and there were literally thousand of children every year being injured and killed. What are you, a massmurdering sadist?
Maybe you should look into how many times western nations have done the EXACT SAME THING. Or worse, much much worse.
Go look up Operation Babylift.
"have left the country"
Uh yeah, how about no. The real number is at most a third of that and half of them have already returned.
But hey, if you want to base your numbers on videos of the weekend rush traffic between Russia and Georgia, that's your stupidity. And i'm not joking here, THAT is what western propaganda literally did. In one case, they even used footage that were years old and had absolutely no connection to 2022 at all.
As proof of how many people were "fleeing the country".
Maybe you should go to Rand corporation website, and look up the publication "Extending Russia" which is freely available there since 2019.
In it, is discussed how Russia is to be destroyed by forcing it into war with Ukraine so that USA can exploit the political chaos they can cause and generate a regimechange.
Or maybe go look up how Angela Merkel admitted that the Minsk treaties were nothing but a ruse to trick Russia into giving EU and Nato the time to militarise Ukraine for its PLANNED WAR WITH RUSSIA.
"Ukraine had about 179 thousand soldiers"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Correction:
At start of 2022, Ukraine had around 700 thousand soldiers. The majority of which were trained and equipped to the best degree that Nato was capable of.
260 thousand regular troops.
45 thousand paramilitaries.
250 thousand "ready reserve" which all just happened to be fully in service for over a year by February 2022.
100 thousand in nazi militias.
45 thousand in non-nazi militias.
Over 3 thousand tanks, 9 thousand IFVs, 12 thousand other AFVs, 500 combat aircraft. The most powerful Nato ground force on Earth. The 2nd most powerful Nato military.
Despite Russia warning in 2006 that Nato in Ukraine cannot ever be accepted.
With Zelensky BRAGGING at the Munich conference about soon having nuclear weapons.
With Ukraine ATTEMPTING TO USE BIOLOGICAL WEAPON against Lugansk in 2021.
With Ukraine USING chemical weapons both against Donbass militia and civillians and then against Russian troops. Thank you USA for building a chemical weapons factory in Ukraine, great idea!
"how many casualties have this conflict caused so far"
Current numbers of Russian casualties according to western propaganda outlet Mediazona, 39 thousand KIA. Plus 6-12 thousand DPR/LPR from before becoming part of Russia. That includes the 2700 Wagner KIAs and the 7400 ex-convict KIAs.
Current number of Ukraine casualties:
Andrei Martyanov, geopolitical author with contacts in both Russian and Ukraine military, December 2023, over 1 million KIA. He's not been wrong about Ukraine conflict so far...
Phil Giraldi, ex-CIA analyst, November 2023, at least 750 thousand KIA.
Douglas Mcgregor, ex-US colonel, as of late summer 2023, "550 thousand KIA at minimum".
Various sources summer 2023 and forward, noone credible gives a lower number than 500 thousand KIA. Most state over 600 thousand, many state over 700 thousand.
Ukraine accidental online posting of May 2023, "over 400 thousand who are no longer among us". This did not include the MIAs who are mostly KIAs, over 200 thousand.
Ukraine also hastily created a new military cemetary in summer 2023, for 600 thousand graves.
Also notable how everyone that have travelled in Ukraine in 2023 reports that every graveyard is filled to the limit with recent military graves.
Russian reporting on Ukraine casualties are limited to only the hard confirmed and the ones they are effectively certain of. It should be considered the absolutely lowest possible. Because they do not even count any KIAs for completely vaporising a Ukraine tank, as the tank COULD have been remote controlled.
Investigating group in USA found that by end of August 2023, Ukraine had mobilised AT LEAST 2 million, and Ukraine at the time was claimed to have 500 thousand trops. Together with the starting personnel of 700 thousand, that means over 2.2 million total casualties at the time.
"multiplies by 4"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Dear gods, this is turning into complete and utter propaganda nonsense.
Russian MoD is WELL KNOWN to UNDERREPORT casualties of their enemies. This has been firmly established for over 25 years.
And MEDIAZONA IS A WESTERN PROPAGANDA SITE using a wellestablished and highly reliable methodology. And yet they cannot confirm more than 39 thousand Russian KIAs right now. A magnitude less than Ukraine claims!
"for every death, there's multiple injured people"
That is an assumption.
And Ukraine has pisspoor medevac, not to mention the horribly overworked healthcare of the nation, to the degree that thousands have been sent to other Nato and EU nations, which means they have a very high degree of deaths to longterm or permanently injured. Somewhere between 1:1 and 1:3.
Meanwhile, Russia has exceptionally good medevac and healthcare. As long as you don't die, you're very likely to get patched up ok again.
Which ironically leads to a similar or even lower ratio.
The big difference is in shortterm injured. Russia has comparatively lots of them, while most of what would be Ukraine's shortterm injured die or become longterm injured due to the bad medevac.
"in June 2022"
ALSO in June/July 2022, a Ukraine internal memo leaked with a statement of 191 thousand KIAs. Yeah, sure, 10 thousand KIA and 30 thousand injured, while the bureaucracy talks about 191 thousand. Very credible reporting.
"scientific paper"
Any paper which in 2023 thinks Ukraine has lost 17 thousand KIA, has absolutely ZERO scientific credibility. To the point of absurdity.
"that wasn't reported by one of the fighting sides"
Uh, say what now? The British have had soldiers involved in fighting in Ukraine since day 1. UK is one of the fekin instigators of the war!
That's like assuming Italy in WWII would provide neutral information about Germany.
"civillian casualties"
The DPR published the number of civillian deaths openly. Over 9 thousand in Donetsk city between 2014 and 2021. Over 5 thousand just in 2022 thanks to all those lovely advanced weapons Ukraine got their hands on. Because clearly, it is so important to use HIMARS against street markets and funerals.
Such fun to shell a city every day for 9 years right?
"targeted civillian areas"
No, RUSSIA have been EXTREMELY careful to do its utmost best to avoid causing civillian casualties.
Ukraine is the side which published a manual online for how to use civillians as human shields. A manual that just happened to be made in USA. Fancy that.
Ukraine has caused over 98% of civillian casualties.
"paramilitaries supported by Russia"
No, when the Donbass regions held REFERUNDUMS that they wanted nothing to do with the nazis taking over Kiev, and declared themselves independent.
There was no support by Russia.
But with this kind of grossly distorted history writing, i guess you support the nazi coup that USA comitted?
"far from being the deadliest"
That's because you're using propaganda as your basis.
You clearly have not the slightest understanding of reality.
Russia has applied very roughly and extremely oversimplified dozens of times more firepower against Ukraine than vice versa. And many times more in the form of precision weapons as well.
Russian artillery usage has peaked at over 70 thousand shells per DAY. USA against Iraq used a TOTAL of just over 60 thousand during the entire invasion.
Russian airforce has conducted an average around 250 airstrikes per day. Ukraine's average is below 5 and even that is probably overestimation.
Russia has used more cruise missiles against Ukraine than the EU and Nato has ever manufactured, combined.
Russia uses at minimum 3 times as many drones against Ukraine as vice versa.
Russia shoots down and neutralizes the majority of Ukraine drones. Ukraine neutralizes less than half that of Russian drones.
Western guided weapons, half the time or more, they are being jammed to miss their targets. Because unlike the west, Russia has dedicated Electronic Warfare forces.
Russian guided weapons are barely ever jammed by Ukraine. With the laserguided Krasnopol being the most used, which ironically is the old 1980s model, while the newer GPS/GLONASS guided version have been less used.
"started in 2022"!!!
The civil war started in 2014. Russia's intervention in the ONGOING CIVIL WAR started in 2022.
you didnt counted soliders missing, bc there is leaked document from ukraine witch says that there is 30 000 soliders missing
The war has been going on for 9 years actually. The invasion marked a high point.
A lot of people have no idea about the real conflict.
@@ServantOfTheSouth A lot are lied to about the conflict as well.
The invasion was the first time that russia officially took part. Before they always claimed they had nothing to do with it (Crimea Soldiers without flag etc.)
@@Crackshotsteph
On both sides. Finished it for you.
@@user-sp8qv9cx8s wagner was active in Syria before Ukraine. It was russian black and shit ops force since middle 00s
One thing I can say about war is that casualties won't be revealed until well after the end, and even then, it won't be accurate.
Yes it started in 2014 !
Well it depends...
not really. we still don't know exact number of casualities of soviet union during WW2
@@Sergtorye we are only going to be given perhaps more accurate estimates in the future but still those numbers could be off by thousands or even tens of thousands. However ww2 number of deaths could be off by million as it was ofc much bigger war. Lets hope this never escalates to such a level
Well, for starters, Ukraine would have no reason to lie about their losses after the war, they were the ones invaded.
Something that stuck with me was that one slip-up from the conference with Ursula von der Leyen back around December 2022, where she said Ukrainians have suffered over 100k KIA by that point. Something weird was that a few stations have cut and edited that part entirely.
Because what she said was taken out of context and was being used by russian propagandists for propaganda.
@@Joaquin546 There is no such thing as Russian propaganda. Most people don't speak Russian and all major social platforms are owned by the USA, and the Twitter Files already revealed that the govt and its agencies was deeply involved in social media.
@@dr.embersfield1551 🤣🤣 you were wrong right at the beginning
@@Joaquin546 You think I'm wrong? Who owns Google, Facebook, Apple, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, RUclips?
Dude it's a fact that Russia has a ton of disinformation campaigns going on in the west. And its helping them greatly.@@dr.embersfield1551they mostly use accounts on social media platforms like the ones you mention to spread either lies or just stoke hatred.
In war, countries tend to lower the military causalties because they don't want people to think they are losing, but they higher the count of civilians casualties to show the world:"hey, look how bad the other guy is." Bruh
Ok bot
Sick how fast people stop caring once something becomes "old news" regardless of what it is, even a war like this...
israel and gaza is the new hot topic
@@lobsteroids Right, so people just switch from bad news to the newer bad news
Sadly, it is how human brain works
@@user-vc8xx6qm1x To an extend... But you must not underestimate the conditioning people are subjected to when they glance through a television that determines their whole life and behaviour. it is normal for most to be soulless slaves to a puppet, not forget about a proxy war if it wasnt for the bread and games
People in Eastern Europe still care.
I wouldn't say BBC Russia is an unbiased source.
Did he say it was unbiased?
Yep it is biased in favor of Ukraine, since it belongs to the same BBC that does reporting on British issues. I'd say tge number of Russian losses are smaller than that
@@JosephCummington everything you typed was opposite.
@@Peter-lb8pv can you prove that BBC Russia does not belong to BBC? No? Then don't engage in rhetoric with a superior, just that simple
It's a bbc sponsored russian dissident side.😉 So i hardly think they are underestimating.
Where can i find this chart with all names like in 1:38?
I'm studying machine learning at the moment, I'd love to work on such a cool project. I'll dig into it
War was started in 2014 not 2022
I totally agree. It started in 2014. Our politicians D- C. Murphy, D- A. Klobuchour, R- John McCain, R- L. Graham went to Ukraine. BTW, Porochenko was installed by foreign intelligence & the legitimit Pres. was removed. The people of Ukraine were deceived.This guy is already on the wrong track
As a citizen of Ukraine, I will say that a full-scale war began in 2022, and in Donbass - in 2014.
@@SouldGame As a guy who understand logic, i will say there is nothing total about it even now. Total war means 20-30 million russians at least, against 5-10 million ukrainians at best.
@@sotir9299, I just said it like that, because some people just don’t really understand what year the war started or something like that
Well, yes, there is no logic here, I’m just saying it like that.
I deal with refugees from ukraine every day and at times I find myself exhausted, but the honest emotions and gratitude of the familie and women I'm helping is keeping me going! Scary to think about how much this could've escalated over Europe.
@@CR-rm4iy And what did you expect? Men that managed to run away from here already have very questionable morale qualities. I'm not surprised they're trying to abuse your help. This country considered very corrupted for a reason. It's not just government it's people. Women no better I personally know many women who have used various programs and hospitality in general not because they needed it, but simply as free tourism around Europe. Or, ideally, immigration and living on your money just as you described. It's kinda sad because there are a lot of people that actually need help here.
@@Gg3816 Oh, how I love these narratives about corrupt and dishonest Ukrainian refugees. What year are you both living in, and from which cave did you crawl out? Aren't you aware that many Ukrainian refugees (unlike many refugees fleeing wars in the Middle East and Asia) are trying to integrate into the host country's society, find jobs, and many of them are already paying taxes to your budgets? No one is taking money from your personal wallet. I won't speak for men of military age, but what have women refugees and elders done to you? It seems like envy and a complete lack of empathy.
@@CR-rm4iy For your information, rockets and combat drones reach the western part of Ukraine, so the entire territory is to some extent dangerous, Ternopil too. Also, 'Franek' cannot be written in passports because such a city doesn't exist in Ukraine. I guess you need to check your facts and if you're honest at all. Why European countries give shelter to men of military age who left Ukraine after a full-scale invasion is a question for your governments. I agree it's questionable, and I won't speak for that. But what other 'filtration' do you demand for people who are fleeing the war, are you sane? And what bullying behavior are you talking about, of course, there are rude people from every country, but overall it might be due to cultural differences and a lack of communication due to language barriers, but it's not a reason for 'filtration', what a nonsense
@@CR-rm4iy well, you mentioned 'it's written in the passport,' and I simply responded to that. Also, the place of birth doesn't necessarily mean the place of residence, where they actually lived. Anyway, I want to emphasize once again that the entire Ukrainian territory is at risk to some extent, so I don't understand why you highlighted the cities they're allegedly from. Ternopil or Ivano-Frankivsk may not be on the frontline, but all cities are exposed to rockets and other threats. There have been instances where russian drones even fell on EU territories close to the Ukrainian border, but this only caused 'deep concerns' from EU side. russia doesn't have mercy for any part of Ukraine or any country at all.
If those men who were already happily living in Europe before the full-scale invasion are now using the privileges of refugees, there might be a gap in the laws of the EU/US/Canada, etc., that they are exploiting, so in that case, those countries must fix the issue. However, I doubt it bothers these countries. I also doubt that Ukrainians are blocking other immigrants because Ukrainian refugees are not typical migrants; they live in those countries on totally different grounds. Migrants apply for other types of visas. Unfortunately, some people don't understand this and simply get jealous and complain that bad Ukrainians are taking their place. Hilarious.
I am sure you enjoy helping the women while you encourage the men go and die. Sickening. How about just praying for peace in Ukraine and everywhere but it seems that’s not your thing.
“No bias found”
6:05 (no bias found) just LOL :D
Yep. After that we can close that video.
So basically he shows that paper study estimates KIA as June 2022 for Ukrainian side as 17k but Ukrainian MOD reports 10K (NO BIAS FOUND LMFAO)
Ukraine recently stated that only 30,000 of its soldiers died from the beginning, but there is no bias on their losses... LMAO
Even "debunkers" and "fact checkers" are lying, the truth is you can't trust anyone, that's as simple as that. As always, we will eventually know the truth, but only when it is all over, when it is too late to act, to stop this bloodshed through diplomacy.
To be fair he said found so he couldn’t find it him self with his research meaning it’s not 100% accurate
Lol! and then went ahead to give us FAKE figures from Zelensky himself.
From 8 milion people who migrated from Ukraine is just 20 000 men, who emigrated to avoid military service you say? Where did you get it? Funny numbers. Just in Czech Republic is estimated to be 120 000 military service capable men.
i can confirm in finland like 50% are men capable to fight and it is RICH men mostly, with good cars and clothes
envy in silence. you can't do anything with who can fight but don't want to.
because seeking refuge from war - is a basic humanitarian right.
He mentioned 20 k as men who illegally escaped (thought forest, hidden in the car, etc) others have some issues (or corrupted doctors/connections) and they exited the country legally.
@@godsausage9197 cuz no one wanna die for corrupted government
Yes, he takes data from his stupid head. In his opinion, Russia forcibly deported 1 million people... this is complete nonsense! Almost 7 million refugees from Ukraine left for Russia in 2022. Voluntarily. He doesn't look at the other side at all, because there's a saucepan on his head. He did not see the video from Instagram of queues of cars in Crimea and on the border with Belgorod - there were endless traffic jams entering Russia.
Seeing the year "2000" as their birthday and dying in a war is a bit surreal to me.
It's totally normal, all ww2 Napoleonic wars, ww1 iraq Afghanistan are fought by 17 to 25 years old soldiers, soldiers need to be in shape and the prime time to be in shape is from 18 to 27 years old, only officers are old hence the fatherly figures they become. And are still in the 30s to 40s, only high-end generals are above 40.
Another surreal thing is that some people in russia was born with putin as president and died with putin as president.
Democracy works in an interesting way in russia.
@@Damglador "democracy"
@@Damglador Still more democracy than in your country.
@@dr.embersfield1551 🤡🤡hahah, lmao sure.
"Soldiers aren't numbers. They are husbands, fathers, sons and brothers"
yeah, men in Ukraine are now directly called "resource" by officials
they don't even pretend anymore
From where did you source your information?
for every piece of data its source is mentioned right under the number of casualties
погибло более 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 людей для тупых американцев верящих в это
OTAN
Ты слепой или да? (Не в обиду)
from enemies of Russia
I HIGHLY doubt a claim that any party in a war is reporting casualties without bias. Be it civilians, enemies or their own.
bruh, in Russia you are free to fight or flee or get back to Russia. In Ukraine they locked their man in the country and are hunting them down like animals to send to war. More over they demand that europe send fleed ukrainian men back to Ukraine. Do some math.
That's right. I doubt either side will tell the truth. Independent organizations won't be able to determine the true death toll either. They can't just go counting bodies in the middle of a war zone.
wow, you think you so smart gosh, nobody even claim it in this video
Ukraine reports its casualties to their US superiors. Russia's casualties are known only to the Russian government
@@alexr.4746 it was said that Ukraine reports military casualties without a bias (1.0) 6:06
When calculating military casualties, you need to add Missing in Action to the dead+injured, since both sides hide high percentage of death as MIA
You're forgetting that the Russians leave their dead and wounded behind, while the Ukrainians retrieve their dead and wounded, and treat their wounded.
You cannot leave out the sheer incompetence of the Russian military.
Even when they aren't purposely hiding numbers using MiA. Its also just very common for people to go MiA because they got blown up and can't be found anymore and nobody knows what happened to them. Or maybe they got injured, left behind and lost then died. Keeping track of casualties is harder than you'd think. War is absolute chaos, so it results in confusion until the chaos is over. And often we never get answers about what happened during thay chaos.
America has a lot of MiAs from vietnam, and korea. And while, Yes, America had something to gain by hiding deaths with MiA's (considering the Korean war is now officially called: "The Forgotten War" by the government & military because back in the 50s the USA tried to cover up the war and put gag orders on the media who tried to report it. And considering Vietnam was basically ended due to mass protests by american civillians). Despite all the reason the USA had to hide numbers eith MiAs it turns out, it is just really easy to lose people in dense mountainous jungles of Vietnam, ot the freezing cold rocky pin tree covered mountains of Korea. On top of that, the frontlines in Korea and Vietnam both rapidly changed. Both sides controlled the majority of the country at different points in the war. The north koreans basically controlled all off south korea at one point, then not much oster the Americans & SKs had push north korea so far north American troops were on the border of China. Then china came back down and pushed them back. Similar thing happened in Vietnam, south Vietnam was almost conqueted, then north Vietnam was almost conquered, then south Vietnam was almost conquered, then it finally fell.
When frontlines move that far and that fast, from the very top og the country to the very bottom of the country back & forth, on a terrain that is dense jungle, you are bound to have a lot of troops go MiA.
Luckily America has tons of private organizations led by civilians and veterans who try to find these MiA soldiers and they have been very successful.
That number heavily skews the numbers in favor of Russia. This channel is pro-Ukrainian.
Their lying to us abt Ukraine so the real number are probably incredibly heart breaking I hate that ppl are being killed bc of the us and all the greedy ppl making money off this
His sources are trash. US government reports on casualty figures are a joke. They are not reliable.
This war made me realize that both sides in conflicts lie and therefore usually casualty/deaths statistics in human history is flawed and probably unrealistic
At the very beginning of the video, the author of the channel mentions that this video is not about politics, but I had doubts about this.
3:25 *_But there is a nuance. It is estimated that more than 1,000,000 Ukrainian citizens were forcibly deported to Russia_*
Source: Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.
All of Europe is under US pressure. Any European organizations participating in the international agenda are somehow working for the United States. This organization's report is not an authoritative opinion. But the author chose to refer to only one source, on the one hand. To be fair, it is necessary to show data from another source, from Russia, for example.
It is also quantitatively provable that Russian sources are even more unreliable than Ukrainian sources in terms of reporting on the war.
Почему-то не удивлён, что ты Александр, и ты хочешь видеть дата фром эназер соурс, фор экзампл Рашан)
@@Hacker12333 по факту есть что возразить? чел рассуждает вполне логично, а ты докопался до имени. И так всегда. За два года я уже отчаялся встретить хоть один пример логичной аргументированной позиции подтверждающей правоту Украины в этом конфликте. Каждый раз либо прямая ложь, либо кринжовый хейтспич, а как правило и то и другое. Вы же сами себя дискредитируете в глазах любого думающего человека пытающегося разобраться в том как и почему всё пришло к этой кровавой бане.
@@user-cj2od5lm4j, спасибо, за десять лет я уже понял, что с вами вести никакой адекватный диалог, с доводами, нельзя. Ещё в 2014 году, когда моя семья потеряла половину имущества из-за русских господ, я догадался, что вам нужно доказывать свою правоту агрессией и силой. Прежде чем рассуждать кто плюётся желчью и рвотными массами, стоит понаблюдать за своими соотечественниками, ибо вот такие приступы "адекватности" у вас, выглядят жалко. Особенно после видео казней военнопленных и отрезания генеталий вашими солдатами.
Уж лучше неавторитетный опинион, чем авторитарный опинион 😂
for me as a ukrainian living my whole life in europe it still feels so personal and shocking to see these numbers. Alot of people here already almost forgot about the war in ukraine as it doesn‘t impact them. I find it quite useful to have such an overview, really gives someone a perspective about all the suffering people in this war, its horrible. Thanks for the really good video, respect
Yeah, the West really should stop sponsoring this war to end the suffering.
@@dashanben Shut up.
@@dashanben it's so funny!
@@dashanben Sadly, he may be mobilized by Ukrainian laws
He lives in Europe whole his life and Ukraine is only historical home
According to the military, there are many cases when it is impossible to take a body, or even a part of it. Therefore, a certain percentage, and quite a large one, are missing. And commanders can do this specifically so that there is no payment to relatives.
Yours should be top comment. This world is so fucked.
thats something..
А ти першніж таке писати неподумав про те що тіла можут лежати на тереторії яка: прострілюється або захоплена ворогом?
@@stounhold1339 навіть якщо і так то його слова в цілому правдиві
@@alexgrusha5903 какая разница, можно ли отправить часть тела домой или нет. домой уходит похоронка и все, после которой человек ещё может вернуться живым. нахуй скрывать чтобы не было выплпат родственникам это не чвк они платят не из своего кармана
How could you explain Ukraine´s consecutive massive calling for reserves that were 50+ years old? Those were not in the 250K+ reserve group. For that, for sure, almost all 400K+ soldiers and reserves should have been KIA. That would not match your data by far...
What is the name of the song that starts at 1:17?
WHO CARES!??
@@mnnative7790- I mean, the simple act of someone asking the question means they care but I guess that was too complicated for you to figure out 😂
@@mnnative7790 let the man ask his question if he wants to know how this song is called. you little ....
Corals Under the Sun Instrumental · Yehezkel Raz · Sivan Talmor
@@tilt9 - Awesome, thank you!
The population of Ukraine (excluding uncontrolled Crimea and parts of Donbass) in 2020 was estimated to be approximately 38.3 million. 43.7 million is a very optimistic estimate and it actually doesn't reflects reality, because this number also takes into account uncontrolled territories and people who no longer live in the territory of Ukraine. It is difficult to accurately determine the exact population for the last decade, as the census has not been carried out since 2001, but it is definitely not 43.7.
But this also applies to other data that is very controversial/politically biased. It’s too early to make such videos about a war that has not yet ended.
Take the video with a grain of salt.
Or to be less subtle, this video is pure ukrainian/western propaganda 😁
@@ktrimbach5771 yeah, because showing statistics of all kind, from Russia included, and basically saying "Hey guys, the war is fucked up, many people have died!" is an example of ukranian/western propaganda. Did you even watch this video?
This doesn't devaluates every other point of this video, why should I take the video with a grain of salt?
0:44 This is the author’s deliberate separation of Russia from Europe. Suddenly Ukraine turned into Europe. It is propaganda.
@@gush5436
How is the total population of Ukraine related to the number of refugees or the number of killed people?
It breaks my heart. I don't know the real losses of the dead Ukrainians and I don't want to know, because this is a cruel truth. It's hard to realize the amount of damage; six months ago, I was repairing pipes myself simply because I couldn't find a plumber in town. About once a month I attend a funeral, someone I know dies. It's good to have information. Sometimes friends just disappear, stop responding to messages. Usually, one of our mutual acquaintances reports the death of a friend, but sometimes these mutual friends don't exis, and although I realize they are probably dead, I don't have that confirmation. The hardest thing was not the funeral of the best friend, because we talked a lot about life and death, but of the schoolmate 3 years younger than me, I remember him as a child, but he has already died.
These Banderists brought it on themselves. No empathy whatsoever from me.
@@lioneldemun6033no one asked brainwashed russian
@@lioneldemun6033Great post, Ivan. We have deposited 1 potato in your account. Keep up the good work for our dear dictator, comrade! 🙃
It's now 9 years, since Nazis in Ukraine, supported by NATO, started the bloody, illegal coup in Kiev. Since then, despite all warnings made by Russia, despite the Minsk Agreements, the Ukrainian far-right regime never was willing to stop the murdering of Russians in Ukraine. Till now, the US regime is not allowing Ukraine to stop the war, despite Ukraine losing so many soldiers. And Zelensky doesn't care, since he claims to be a J..., not an Ukrainian.
@@MrCobalt it's not that crazy when facist think that they are the sole good human in planet, works for every Nazi superiority complex
The funny thing is that neither side declared war on the other. All conversations about the war are conducted only on the Internet.
Do you even fammiliar with custom, that if foreigen soldiers cross border thats de facto eclaration of war?
Then two days later, the UN released a further report, switching its sourcing to the health ministry. The result of this was that although the overall recorded death toll was almost unchanged (34,844), the number of registered deaths of women (4.959) and children (7,797) as of 30 April had both fallen significantly in gaza
I pray for all those affected by this tragedy. I really liked the beginning of this video, because it’s very easy for people living far away to distance themselves from conflicts. To only see people as numbers on a chart. It’s easy to forget that every single one of those people had a life, a family, a story. I only hope this conflict ends soon.
NATO fault
Russia invasion of Ukraine BUUUUUUT War in Iraq. War in Afghanistan!!!! WHo invaded and killed people in iraq and Afghanistan?
Yeah, it's like the 7th different version of "how the invasion started" that I've heard, so probably pure fantasy/speculation.
@@McAwesomeReaperWar usually starts with many actions happening at the same time, so all of those stories can be true.
@@WedrowniczekJas They can all be untrue.
Seeing people, soldiers, born after 2000 die in this war makes my stomach turn
Ak bude existovať ľudstvo o 1000 rokov, tak budú vojaci a civilisti zomierať aj po roku 3000 . Ľudstvo je najlepšie vo vzájomnom vyvražďovanii a to sa nezmení pravdepodobne nikdy. Je zbytočné prehnane moralizovať v tejto téme. Vyvraždíme sa sami alebo to zariadi nakoniec vesmír.
This year, men born in 2006 will go to war. The Russian Ministry of Defense will recruit prisoners born in 2006. And just yesterday they went to kindergarten. Now they will fight for 80 year old Putin
you must have missed primary school then. Heard of other wars besides this one?
Are you autistic?@@Druze_Tito
Google alley of angels Donetks, if you don't know about it
This video’s format seems awfully familiar. Neil Halloran? Some of the wording is eerily similar in structure and order too.
you should watch combat footage from ukraine on a daily basis for one year straight.... and come back here and tell me with a straight face that this video still NOT underestimating real results
The reliability of the data is a challenge. But I appreciate your attempt to find the highest quality data possible. And the way you present the data is absolutely beautiful. So clear and informative. Thanks for trying to answer this question.
The casualities of the data can be estimated if the author actually uses their brain when making these, Mediazona and UAlosses had made good estimation and both doesnt even pass 100k KIA,
@@Vyklon every single person thinks that he "uses their brain" so it's a pointless comment
@@different_stuff On what? Spreading bad data? Thats the problem with youtubers, they post into a subject they didnt know any better and spread fake news.
About zero reliability
For a moment we can say for sure Ucrain lost AT LEAST 400k dead. Russian loses 7-10 times less/ These facts have no doubt, vautor uses a lot of propagande, hi has no factcheching
А как же обстрел Донецка в конце января 2022 года? А как же Майдан?
What I would like to understand is how they estimate the deaths in a place like Mariupol. If they count deaths by what is officially validated, I would speculate the death count would be severely underestimated because of how many obliterated or abandoned bodies would accumulate from the bombing of that city
не пизди, бомбили русачки марик так, що от него целые районы пропали@@ural-pol
It is probably around 100k deaths there..
@@akov595😂 автор некомпетентен. Из Мариуполя подавляющая часть населения была эвакуирована в Россию, остальные эвакуировались на Запад. Принудительно никого не эвакуировали. В городе оставалось очень мало гражданских. И большинство из них были в заложниках у украинских боевиков
@@Bravo4chk бооже😂 сколько же много пропаганды вы наслушались, люди до обстрелов не уезжали, почти все там были. А депортация в рашу вашу была насильной. Вы только посмотрите на большое количество фото новых кладбищ там. Так что руснявую пропаганду сюда не нужно писать
@@Bravo4chk Русских послушать с ума сойти можно!
this is a Russian-Ukrainian war, not a “war in Ukraine”
Sim, a guerra é amplamente considerada um desastre humano, econômico e social. Ela traz consigo uma série de consequências devastadoras, incluindo perda de vidas humanas, destruição de infraestrutura, deslocamento em massa de pessoas, sofrimento emocional e trauma duradouro.
Aqui estão algumas das razões pelas quais a guerra é vista como um desastre:
1. **Perda de vidas humanas:** A guerra resulta em um número significativo de mortes, incluindo soldados e civis inocentes. As consequências para as famílias e comunidades afetadas são devastadoras.
2. **Destruição de infraestrutura:** A guerra leva à destruição de casas, escolas, hospitais, estradas e outras infraestruturas vitais. Isso prejudica gravemente o bem-estar das comunidades afetadas e dificulta a recuperação após o conflito.
3. **Deslocamento em massa:** Muitas guerras resultam em deslocamento em massa de pessoas, forçando-as a fugir de suas casas para buscar segurança em outras regiões ou países. Isso cria uma crise humanitária e gera problemas adicionais, como a falta de moradia, acesso a alimentos e água, e serviços básicos.
4. **Custo econômico:** A guerra é extremamente cara, tanto em termos financeiros quanto em oportunidades perdidas de desenvolvimento. Os recursos que poderiam ser investidos em educação, saúde, infraestrutura e outros setores são frequentemente desviados para financiar a máquina de guerra.
5. **Impacto ambiental:** As guerras causam danos significativos ao meio ambiente, incluindo poluição do ar e da água, destruição de habitats naturais e contaminação por resíduos tóxicos e armas.
Além desses aspectos, a guerra também alimenta o ódio, a divisão e o trauma emocional duradouro nas sociedades afetadas. Por essas razões, muitos esforços são feitos globalmente para prevenir conflitos e promover a paz e a resolução pacífica de disputas.
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic.
Please do remember, that each of those numbers represent not just deaths or displaced people but destroyed families and homes, broken dreams and future, woe and cry of mothers and children.
I truly love this Stalin quote. Its so honestly cynic.
"The war only started in 2022" 🤣
I guess he meant 'invasion'. We all remember Donetsk airport shot to pieces in 2014, Crimea, MH17, etc.
@@vangestelwijnen, ukranian invasion was started in 2014 when they invade DPR and LPR
@@secretbunnie2206 Cope harder, everyone knows about Girking and other special forces groups invading into Donetsk and Luhansk regions to create separatist groups from the very few radical russians there and taking the local government to say all this bullshit. 86% of all citizens there voted for staying as part of Ukraine in 1991, there never was a russian ethnic majority in those regions after you russians comming here and forcing one half of Ukrainians to flee for their lives, while the other half has to stay silent, since there is not government to protect their pro-Ukraine position.
they invaded their own country?@@secretbunnie2206
@@volodymyr_budii Это бред, у меня по материнской линии живут родственники в Донецке. Я посещал его каждый год начиная с 2006 года по 2013, людей говорящих на Украинском языке я встретил всего пару раз, все вывески были на Русском и люди говорили на Русском языке и очень плохо отзывались о власти Киева, думаю если бы им дали присоединится ещё в 2010 году - они бы это сделали не задумываясь. Я не сомневаюсь что со стороны России так же были действия, но даже если это так, то это не составило никакого труда, что уже о многом говорит. Ну и по классике - учите историю, чтобы лучше понимать какой и где этнос населения был.
it is not easy to be not an observer but a potential object which is considered in this video. For only two years, we in Ukraine were the same observers of the war in Syria, which has already claimed a large number of victims. I wish everyone who watched this video not to be affected by war throughout their lives. For this, I am very much asking you to help Ukraine!
we do have over 25,000 dead in Mariupol. I lived through it all and moved my family out of there.
"no bias found" because they dont even want to report any
It's incredibly sad on how the human psychology works, how fast people forget about the wars. It's happening literally in Europe, every day and yet the media seem to have gotten bored. I'm happy that there are people out there that still create content about it.
What is incredible to me is western media omitting the purposefull bombing of ethnic Russians in the Ukrainian civil war and then claim that Putin just wants to conquer as if there is nothing else going on. Ukraine is dirty corrupt and Zelenski isn't some clean and virtuous leader.
That being said, some western leaders should be deeply ashamed, for they sabotaged an early peace. The deaths since then are on them and Zelenski for following them.
Expendable Life is money in the eyes of the elite
USA on average militarily attacks/invades 3-5 countries per year, for the last 50 years or so. Most of them doesnt even get much mention in western media to begin with. The US propaganda focus on Ukrain is diminishing now, because it is by now clear that US proxy Ukraine will suffer a total defeat. But with US elections coming up, Biden would like people to forget their disastrous proxywar as soon as possible. After all, if an anti war candidate would win in the USA, how would the Military industrial complex make the same amount of money the next 4 years?
Gotta prepare the people for the ukrainian defeat. "Which war? oh, I didn´t care."
There is a "but" in the russian victory. Putin needs to politically control the whole of ukraine to make sure he can trade through slovakia/ hungary to germany the nederlands and belgium. If ukraine is split and the western side remains under USA influence russia will have lost.
@@Azrael1st One could eventually get such impression. However I don't think there is a huge difference between the "elite" and common people. It lies in nature of undivided attention. We pay attention only to this what is shown. And we are responsible for what we pay attention to only partially. One can not pay undivided attention to many topics at the same time.
Thanks for the correct naming "Russian invasion of Ukraine" but not "war in Ukraine". Such a small detail but a very big difference ❤
И что оно тебе дает? Хоть как называй это, сути не поменяется. Могу сказать что ты лицемер.
Very nice infographic video, really seen such video after longtime.
I've looked up a lot of these numbers myself a few weeks ago and came to the conclusion that I trust none of these sources, or that even if the sources would be trustworthy, they would not have the means of getting an accurate number in the first place.
It's horrifying and I hope this war ends soon. I always keep thinking that they really just as easily could have played a few games of ... list a game where AI doesn't outperform everyone else and has competitive team play ... over the territory instead.
in two years the EU will lose Ukraine, which they did not want to support and will be occupied by the united army of Russia and Ukraine within up to 5 years.
If only it was about land and not the militarization by the West of Russia's borders and trying to bring Ukraine into NATO regardless of telling Russia they wouldn't.
Sadly this will only end if America allows Ukraine to go back to the Peace talk table, our money runs out for this Proxy War, and/or the Ukrainian's get rid of Zelenskyy and another puppet regime is avoided.
Lets just hope our Politicians don't escalate this situation or continue to poke China into a proxy war with Taiwan.
Would you be okay with you and I playing a game of Go Fish where I keep all of your stuff if I win and you keep all of your stuff if I lose? It's a little one sided isn't it? You're right about not trusting sources though. One thing we can be quite certain of is that russian losses are at least 5-10 times higher because of terrible tactics / meatwave assaults. The russians have a well documented history of having little to no value in human life.
@@shannonroberts5080 I would be more okay with that than being murdered outright.
Like if I need to decide between a game of Go Fish for all my stuff and a fight to the death and don't get the option not to play, I'd prefer the game of Go Fish.
@@shannonroberts5080 I guess you haven't see the state of American cities these days. We don't put much value in it either. But we always can find money for wars.
Sorry, the war started in 2014.
2014 de facto
2022 de jure
@@Abdoulaye1995 Neither Russia nor Ukraine have imposed martial law, so de jure the war has not started yet.
Ukraine has martial law@@user-zp9gj1cf5n
@@user-zp9gj1cf5n Russian military officially crossed ukrainian borders on 24th February 2022 (Crimea is different case). After that Ukraine recieved support from other countries not just humanitarian but weapons and equipment which means they recognized the situation. Both Russia and Ukraine declared mobilization. Also USSR and Japan didn't signed up peace treaty but WWII (and Great Patriotic War) still ended in 1945.
@@user-zp9gj1cf5n source: trust me bro
Ukraine imposed nation-wide martial law on Feb 24th 2022 (martial law being in effect in Donetsk and Luhansk regions since 2014)
The european countries irrational reaction of banning issuing visas to Russians has helped Рutin significantly by stopping the brain drain and men fleeing the mobilization. Those European policies helped Рutin to keep country together from collapsing after initial military failures and botched extemporaneous mobilization efforts.
Moreover, many Russians have realized that the goal of the West is not to make us Europeans, but to destroy us... And that's why many people have changed their thinking, now in Russia any mention of Europe sounds like - I'm Navalny, I'm a CIA agent, I'm a TRAITOR. That's why more people in Europe know who Navalny is than in Russia itself)) And I swear, I promise, and I am 1000% sure that Navalny was killed by the CIA (Everyone in Russia knew that he was a US agent), and all the people who work and support their family didn't care who he was or why he was here. Navalny was supported only by young fools who grew up and now, looking at Ukraine and the Maidan, say thank you that they did not succeed... when I was a student in 2012, I was chairman of the university's trade union committee and one of the organizers of rallies for Navalny... It's even a shame to think about it now...
saw your video the other day several years ago about WW2. Watching a video of modern day war with my contry involved is truly a bone-chilling fucking terror
That video was made by Neil Halloran, not myself
I have always felt like understanding how terrible the deaths in a war are, is really hard just hearing numbers. This was the first time i really understood these numbers!
Это можно понять только пережив , я видел поля заваленные трупами русских орков они не хотят забирать своих мёртвых а иногда сами добивают своих раненых , на нашу позицию за день прилетало по 500 снарядов и мин . Трупы везде вряд-ли вы можете по настоящему предоставить всю эту дрянь . Не пытаюсь оскорбить , но даже те кто под ракетными обстрелами в тылу и те не понимают .
How can you possibly understand wrong numbers?
@@user-tl6qw7wk3xиди выпей таблетки,долбень😂😂
you obviously dont
@@osmanmemisevic2164
Почитайте про Первую Мировую войну,про ход боевых действий,про то как войска перемалывают друг друга.Очень отрезвляет.Потери тогда были около 10 миллионов человек.
Thank you for this video. The scale of the casualties is absolutely horrifying.
The AFU always mirror their own casualties.There is no mobilization in Russia but there is s huge one in Ukraine.
True and it is Slavs killing Slavs many of which have family/friends on each side.
Well that's not too far from how the world generally has reacted to russian war on Ukraine. Weak and pathetic.
@@devansa125 There were mobilizations in Russia, that is a flat out lie. Putin's approval ratings tanked after the first one. A third of Russian prison populations are empty. And in typical Russian fashion, the first people to be mobilized are russian ethnic minorities rather than the Moskals.
Also, Ukraine protects several groups from mobilization, students and young people, for starters.
@@devansa125 Source: trust me comrade? The Russians have been shadow mobilizing for months now.
It's 3:40 Am for me right now, so that's crazy.
I'm from Moscow, but I'm against this war 😢
Was 6:20 - 6:44 inspired by "The Fallen of WW2"? Anyways, very, bery strong moment
How did you create this video what did you use to render and create it? I'll like to do a similar video about my own country 😢😢
You can find all tools used listed in the link in the description. The 3D animations were made in Blender
Wow thank you so much😊
@@memeabledata Lots of inaccurate numbers in your video. The refugees in Russia are reported to be near 5.5 million, not 1 million. In other words, more than all the refugees EU countries combined. Also, the number of people displaced from the Iraqi war was 9 million, not 2.2 million.
"Over 38 million people in the war zones of Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, the Philippines, Libya, and Syria have been displaced, either abroad or within their own countries, and are living in grossly inadequate conditions. This is a very conservative estimate and the figure could be as high as 49-60 million." - Watson Institute
@@dr.embersfield1551 Saying the numbers are inaccurate is like saying your best friend is a bad person. You have no idea what's accurate. Noone knows. Maybe Ukrainian or Russian intelligence has a more accurate estimate, but they won't tell us for the life of them. There's a lot of propaganda involved on both sides.
It’s really easy to see all these numbers as just that, numbers and statistics, but we have to remember each and every number in this chart was a person with their own unique life, and each death effects countless others. War is hell.
Most countries support wars. There are very few peaceful countries like Russia that save lives rather than take them away.
A lot of the "people" from this statistics fully supported the invasion and what happened to the ukrainian people so for a lot of these numbers I really don't care and I hope they increase
russia is hell...
ukraine is way more hellish. been in both countries @@oman_ua
@@oman_ua ну не знай, вчера в кинотеатр ходил, сейчас клоу пью, а месяц назад плейстуху купил)
As they say, there are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Who fired the first round? Did he fire the machine gun? Why would he return to "hold his position" only to mount a machine gun not to fire it...
Personally, I think it's very important historically to know who fired the first shot...
a lot of latino americans died in the war fighting for ukraine, i dont think people realise how many soldiers from poor countries are fighting for money or just the feeling of the war
так рашка только делает
Feeling of war? Who would want to be in a war on their own free will? This is the most bs I've seen so far
True, even my country (poor country from south asia) fighters were fighting in ukraine and some of them died.
There is some foreigners but.. well.. "a lot" is a exaggeration
Any KA or prisoner from any country withtin old soviet occupation zone is a big news
Most of the Ukrainian foreing soldiers are fighting in International Legion, the mix of any_country english-speaking volunteers, which was never a numerous force (estimate of NYT in 2023 - 1500-3000)
In separate national forces serving altogether some similar amount of people (there is Belorussian, Chechen and few more national forces)
So.. the number of KA foreigners in Ukrainian army:
USA - 54
Georgia - 49
Belorus - 36
Columbia - 27
France - 23
Great Britain - 21
Russia - 16
Poland - 13
Azerbaijan - 11
Canada - 8
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(there is 33 more countries, each lost.. ahm.. 7-1 people.. there is 5 more latinoamerican countries, 12 KA total)
So.. well.. just like I have said in the beginning, "a lot" is a big exaggeration for 39 people on the whole continent, even considering that the number of wounded people will be 2-3 more than it is with KA
There is more Ukrainian KA every f day, not in some 2 years period
@@yuriy454what do you mean by "occupation zone"? Most of the countries joined USSR by their own will
This war is pretty explosives heavy war. Both sides shoot each other with artillery.
Explosions usually mean piles of flesh without recognition. Many people will be counted as lost, and their remains won't reach their respective graveyards.
I am not the person from the thumbnail of the video which was something like
Why your friends have more friends than you
comparing the war to other wars since 2000, you mention also wars that started earlier than 2000.
ah yes the most reliable and not biased sources: BBC, CNN and US gov
It's hilarious that you can easily tell which side of the conflict you're on after naming these three channels and leaving out one particular.
@@charleswinters9567 I'm neither so you didn't guess at all. I'm just able to think critically amd check different sources from different sides.
@@mr.danload that guy really doesn't like to look at both sides, he def a westerner only watching CNN...
From a vatnik who believe RT 😂
@@etramulnn785Shite like you believe RT and Sputnik 😂
In this video guy is saying that the “mediazona” is the independent Russian website, but, the founder of that website - Peter Verzilov is literally fighting in trenches for Ukraine. Please be more accurate with sources and on how you present them
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Надо еще добавить что он имеет двойное гражданство (Россия,Канада),является иноагентом (спонсируется иностранными государствами),да и его психологический портрет вызывает сомнения в его адекватности.
The statistics presented in the video are distorted. The author of the video calls independent data, figures provided by BBC Russia - an American media company. In fact, the irretrievable losses of the parties are approximately at the moment: Ukraine has 560 thousand soldiers, Russia has 110 thousand soldiers.
Да не, у нас думаю погибших и того меньше, в районе 50 тыс человек, ну и реальные безвозвратные потери у украины (пока ещё украины), около 350 тыс.
@@Protos85 I'm talking about losses, taking into account the dead soldiers of the PMCs Wagner
Attacking side will usually have more losses than defenders, especially in this case.
@@eddiebutkaliuk4681 Yes, you're right. But in this case, the Russians have many times more tanks, artillery and shells for these systems. Ukraine has practically no aviation and lacks air defense systems, Ukrainian air defense systems supplied by NATO countries are light targets for Russian hypersonic missiles. Russian electronic warfare systems make high-precision weapons ineffective.
LOL, attacking side loosing 5x less than defending
russia fans have really low iq these days
Thank you for the video!
A moment of silence for the young guys who had to fight and the civilian who were murdered. Its sad they got their life, freedom and education taken away from them forever, and the ones that were spared only to have incurable memories from this damn war. And we hope the guys still fighting to come back home soon... 🫡 💪❤🩹
Скажите спасибо хозяевам из США.
@@alxei328 Скажи дякую своєму хазяїну Путіну, що тебе ще на війну не відправили
@@kreyda_gibson9450 Дякула ты че не в ВСУ?
@@kreyda_gibson9450 А что вы будите говорить тем людям которые в 2014 году лишились всего? А тем кого сожгли и забили цепями в Одессе? А про геноцид Крыма? перекрытие воды, уничтожение линий электропередач (с оплаченным электричеством)?
До неприличия цинично. Вы за мир или за войну? Да и про образование смешно. У меня брат 3-ды сдавал "украинский" в донецком университете, потому, что имел несчастье родится в 80 году в Москве. Профессор. преподаватель одесского мореходного училища, который несколько лет подряд отдыхал с нами под Одессой, в конце 90 сказал, - "Нам из Киева прислали преподавателей украинского языка, не один из них языка не знает, даже на уровне школьной программы..."
1:37 The first victim of this war was Serhii Kukurin 1 January 1978-18 March 2014.
Wtf is "serhiiii"
You mean Sergey?
Первыми жертвами стали люди, убитые в одесском доме профсоюзов
@@yesandno389еще до этого они сотнями ре3али людей в центре столицы
@@hulking_presenceSure. "Sergey" is in russian. "Serhii" (or "Serhiy") is in Ukrainian language.
@@hulking_presence He means the Ukrainian name...
this is just sad. i will never understand how politicians and weapons industry start such wars.
Don’t blame only politicians. If Russians didn’t want to invade Ukraine, the war would have lasted a couple of weeks. But no, Russia conscripts people and they go to war to fight because they don’t mind killing ‘hohols,’ as they say about Ukrainians. Russia is gradually becoming a fascist state, or maybe it is already one
You have one key factual mistake in your video. The war in Ukraine didn't start in 2022, it started in 2014 with the annexing of Crimea !
It's possible that russian soldiers are burried secretly, but I haven't seen so many videos with huge cemeteries from Russia, while from Ukraine I've seen a lot of such videos
In the cemetery of my city (my city has near 300k inhabitants) there are only a couple dozen graves of soldiers died in war, in the meantime I've seen in telegram-channel a video from Vinnitsa city' cemetery (this ukranian city also has (maybe had) near 300k inhabitants) and the ammount of graves with flags (soldiers graves) is incredible
Я из России, в моём регионе население 1 миллион человек, за 2 года с Украины кого вернули и похоронили на миллионное население примерно 90-110 человек, не более.
Russia was preparing for war. And they secretly made an incredible number of mobile crematoria Tourmaline. Unfortunately, RUclips’s policy did not allow videos of captured installations by Ukrainian Armed Forces fighters.
As they say in Russia, no body, no business.
Есть картина, которую я наблюдал лично на линии фронта, на протяжении года. Это очень маленький участок средней интенсивности. Так вот, статистика. На одного убитого или раненого бойцы украинской армии от пяти до 15 бойцов российской армии. Объясняю как так выходит. Акцентирую внимание что большой процент раненых возвращается в строй. Так вот причина дисбаланса в потерях кроется в повальном использовании пехоты на поле боя. Большая плотность личного состава приводит к большим потерям. Современные средства наблюдения, выявления и уничтожения Почти не оставляют шансов пехоте. Второй момент, это характер боевых действий. Украинская армия ведёт в основном оборонительные бои. Прекрасный пример, это битва за Угледар. Имея 10-ти кратный перевес в технике и 30-ти кратный перевес в пехоте, российская армия не смогла достичь сколь каких нибудь значимых успехов. Силами батальона(И приданных ему средств) были разбиты 2 бригады морской пехоты РФ. Официально были потеряны 130 единиц техники. Потери в пехоте катастрофичны. Удивительно что 155 бригада ВМС РФ была разбита дважды в Украине. Под Киевом, и во второй раз под Угледаром. Иронично что в обеих случаях противником выступала 72-я бригада ВСУ.
Кстати о потерях среди гражданских. Наведу личный пример. Своими глазами видел могилу во дворе дома в прифронтовом городе. И таких примеров тысячи. Усложняется подсчет жертв на оккупированных территориях. Где базовые права человека нарушаются систематически. В том числе право на жизнь. Напоследок хотел бы отметить. Украинская статистика потерь ВС РФ искажена именно по причине занесения в эту статистику и раненых солдат. Часть из которых со временем может быть возвращена в строй.
@@user-mt4bj2sj1j загугли численность армии РФ.
@@antonyakushenko Lying is an art that you do not possess. The average age of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is 54 years old, and that says it all. The Russian Federation is trying to minimize its losses, and it is succeeding quite well.
I want to mention something that, in my opinion, makes these deaths more tragic, the fact that both Ukraine and Russia suffer from demographic decline.
Many families in both countries, like the rest of Europe, have only one child, usually a son.
I don't say that if you have 5 children it's easier if you lose one but if you have only one, how can you continue in life?
Every human life was always valuable but in today's world counts more because of change in mentality and families with less children than in the past, it was not unusual 50% of children not to reach adult age.
why the ripples of this war will be felt for decades
Знаешь, война это ужасно и все это понимают. Но украина убивала мирных людей 8 лет каждый день обстреливая Донецк и Луганск, помимо этого в 2014 украинские нацисты убили множество людей и никто не ответил перед судом за это..... Украина поддерживает нацизм и фашизм, а Запад им помогает убивать людей😢
Russia has always had weak demographics and filled its territory with immigrants from neighboring countries. Those undesirable were killed or exiled to Siberia.
When, with Perestroika, the KGB opened some documents, data appeared on how much the number of peoples had decreased. According to the reference book of building standards, more than 80 million citizens lived in Ukraine in 1922.
The rat Russia was not bad at eating people.
привет! я из России, у меня четверо. происходящее является большой трагедией для обоих сторон. но для России это вынужденная мера. что касается видео то это глупость больного сознания автора. какая депортация? В России всегдашняя тепло относятся к украинцам, машины с их номерами встречаются в Москве и никто их не трогает.
я желаю вам, что бы вам не оказаться в такой ситуации, что бы родной брат хотел вашей смерти и вам бы не пришлось, его лечить!
@@alikdeda8207, какую шовинистическую и ксенофобскую чушь вы написали! 😕👎
So basically not a single person actually knows (with 95% confidence)😂
If Ukraine is running out of personel then what happened to the 800 thousand soldiers they had when the war starts? If Russia is deliberately targetin civilian, why the civilian casualties is lower campared ta Israel Gaza war, wher US made weapons are used to bomb innocent weman and children
One simple answer. “Ukranian officials” is a very unreliable source. Or to be more precise they are all lying peace of sh…!
This video lost credibility when using BBC as reliable source, come off it!
Thankyou , it's hard to believe anything you see or read regarding the war.
You right, the first casualty of war is the truth.
Keep up the good work.
this helped, my moms brother died last month in the ukraine, we got told last week.
I wasnt that closed with him because I live in germany and my moms family was far away, because of covid and the war now, we couldnt meet and my mom really suffers because of that.
This is the first death I have ever experienced and I didnt want to have it because of the damn war, he was too young.
Until now I didnt actually feel the war but since the death and this video rn I do feel it.
The war started and was designed by a US Vet in a POOW camp who eventually got out and took revenge with political power against Russia using Ukraine trouble next door to do it knowing few would be able to trace its origin and dynamics.
This war, as any war, is a sad reflection on our species. Thank you for trying to give us a real understanding of the toll. Your presentation skills are amazing and made for a concise and easy to understand video.
Literally every species on earth fights territorial wars. From apes to rabbits to bacteria.
> real understanding
Yeah, lmao, take a look at the list of sources. Wikipedia, NY Times, Guardian, BBC. 11/10 real frfr
That’s literally what humans do
You can thank NATO
@@just_a_turtle_chad Yes the war is because of NATO definitely not Putin trying to claw back the days of USSR.
The author was not confused by the ratio of losses of the warring parties? And here one of two things - either all thoughts about Russia's multiple superiority in artillery (and this is without taking into account missiles and aviation, where the advantage is total) are not justified (and this is not the case) or the figures (ratio) of losses do not agree in any way with the main striking factor of this high-intensity conflict - artillery.
Thank you Sir for this video.
Note that downplaying casualties is an important factor in the war. It does two things. I prevents morale collapse and it makes the downplaying side look stronger amongst allies. If allies suspect that they're supporting a losing side then they may remove their support and/or see it as a waste. For Russia, downplaying is mostly about dealing with morale issues. For Ukraine, casualty reports are a state secret as they have to deal with not only morale but the potential collapse of allied support.
I looked at the PNAS report and was disappointed. The sources cited were "social media, news venues, and by various government sources". This is crazy as they believe the Ukrainians are overestimating Russians casualties by 1.9x but Russians overestimate Ukrainian casualties by 4.3x. For some reason, this report gives more credence to Ukrainian govt sources despite them having great reason to downplay their casualties. There is no justification either about this potential bias which they hand wave away. I mean the Ukr govt hasn't even admitted the total Leopard losses so far let alone many of the other APC's and tanks. The losses from the failed summer offensive and autumn attempts have also been hush hush despite the absolute pounding the troops have been taking at the south portion of the Dnipro river.
Mate, russia has no clue how many they lost because bad news are not reported back to the military leadership. pootin still thinks half of the battalions that disappeared are still figthing.
Ukraine was already proved to display more accurate numbers, even because they have access to the bodies to check them, unlike the russians. And of course, any russian moving his or her lips is lying.... that also helps.
Russia doesn't downplay anything kid, nor would they ever. After beating the Nazis, soldiers became a kind of sacred job in Russia you would never lie about.
Ukraine got horribly losses exactly for the reason you are whosing: denying reality. And reality gives a fuck about that, it just stomps you.
Military losses are secret on both sides, Ukrainian and Russian, but in different ways. The Ukrainian ones are really secret and are not disclosed, and the Russians claim that their losses are ridiculous, that is, they are lying.
On the other hand, Ukraine officially reports the losses it has inflicted on the enemy. It can be trusted or not, after all it can be verified. From the first day, the Russians declared that they had already completely destroyed the Ukrainian army. And if we compile the official Russian data on Ukrainian losses, then the Ukrainian army has already been destroyed many times, both in terms of equipment and personnel.
It is not real.
In any case, the Russian Federation is an aggressor, worse than the Nazis. Ukraine desperately needs help for its Victory over the aggressor.
@@miriamweller812 yeah never downplay, always tell the "true" there is nothing to hide... Cmon most populated KGB country in the world which always say true. Btw its not only USSR beat the nazis, just want to remind..
@@user-tt3bc7yk8r 1 The USSR never hid its losses in World War II and counted them at 27 000 000.
2. It was the USSR that inflicted a decisive strike on Nazi Germany. Not the West. The battle for Stalingrad, Kursk and Berlin will spark more than El Alamein or the shame of Dünkirchen.
I would name this video: "the quality of western media".
Russia : 1 wave of mobilization (300 000 men)
Ukraine : around 6 waves of mobilization (7th must add another 500 000 men)
also ruzzia before war 1,2M troops, UA 100-200k. So who wins now? Idioooooot!
@@epickzalpha8273 ,
Firstly, total numbers of soldiers in RAF before 24th were 1 013 628. Total numbers of RAF (soldiers + supporting personnel) were 1 902 758.
Secondly, in invasion took part 169 000 - 190 000 of soldiers and supporting personnel combined (and this information is from Wikipedia, one of the most bias sources that is against Russia). Now there are 617 000 of russian soldiers & supporting personnel combined (around 200 000 protecting borders, other deployed in Ukrain). In May 2022 Elenskyy claimed UAF had 700 000 soldiers & supporting personnel.
Thirdly, now total numbers of soldiers in RAF will be increased on 307 000 compared to pre war numbers (according presidential decree from December 1st 2023). And it will be done without any mobilization besides the 1 that already was (in which 300 000 men were mobilized).
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@@ashnazgthrakatulukii1165 If you think Ukraine can equip and supply an army of 500k-1million like russians think, then you are just stupid man. Ukraine barely has the ammunition for that.
Where did you get the figures on the number of mobilized? They are not reported anywhere. I guess, you just imagined them.
@@bilakpp ,
About numbers of mobilized by Russia:
❗️Meduza😮💨iо article from 28th of October 2022.
«Shoigu reported to Putin of conclusion of the mobilization»
About number of waves of mobilization in Russia:
❗️Worldcrunch😮💨соm article from 4th April 2023
“Why Putin hasn’t launched the second mobilization his army so desperately needs?”
🔴Еn😮💨topwar😮💨rū article from 14th of December 2023
“During the Direct Line, the President was asked the question: should we expect a second wave of mobilization?”
About numbers of russian forces taking part in war with Ukrain:
❗️BBC😮💨соm article from 14th of December 2023
«Putin told about numbers of russian troops taking part in war in Ukrain”
🔴Kommersant😮💨rū article from 14th of December 2023
«Putin told about numbers of russian troops participating in SMO»
About numbers of mobilized in upcoming ukrainian new wave of mobilization:
❗️Ensonhaber😮💨соm article from 20th of December 2023
“President of Ukrain Zelenskyy: ukrainian military command demands to mobilize 500 000 people”
About numbers of UAF in May 2022:
❗️Pravda😮💨соm😮💨uа article from 21st of May 2022
“Zelenskyy: 700,000 soldiers are defending Ukraine today”
I specially took for you mostly highly biased towards Russia newspapers (those who can claim that they personally saw how Putin eating newborns in front of their eyes and using blood of virgins as a souse). I marked them with❗️.
And I took 2 pro ŘF sources. They marked with 🔴
I pray, one day, your master will give you a phone instead of a typewriter, and it won’t be needed for me to give you information from the first Iinks of browser.
(And I hope someday ÝŤ will allow to add Iinks and won't dеIetе every comment with them)
Откуда 43 млн.? Вы с Донбассом и Крымом считаете что-ли, это не верно на начало сво было в урине около 37 млн.
yeah more people died in the conflict then ww2 makes lots of sense
Also Muscovia, or Russia was abandoned by not 900,000 people, but almost 4,000,000.
Thank you for this very understandable Metrics. Listing the sources like you did is so important to understandt and make informed decisions or form opinions. It is a sad statistic, but your high quality visuals made the video much more educational, not just about the numbers but also about a practice we sometimes neglect, that is making sure where what information is coming from.
Yeah, when someone uses crayola crayons to prove their point the science becomes unstoppable! 😂
at least they can eat the crayon afterwards 🤓@@rockerteen8300
That is number speculation...
Too bad the sources are cherrypicked and the numbers are far from real.
In 2008, the International Rescue Committee estimated that the Great African War and its aftermath had caused 5.4 million deaths, principally through disease and malnutrition, making the Second Congo War the deadliest conflict worldwide since World War II. Another 2 million were displaced from their homes or sought asylum in neighboring countries. Conflict minerals were a major source of funding for the war, and for subsequent fighting.
I think the author is very mistaken in most of the numbers using dependent sources. Especially about civilians. However, there is no doubt that these are huge numbers
До войны небыло в Украине 43 млн населения. Там 20 лет переписи населения не проводили. Предположительно там было порядка 30 млн населения.
@@homuchoghoma6789
Аналогічно в підєрації. Не факт шо є 100млн.
@@homuchoghoma6789есть альтернативные источники подсчёта населения, кроме переписи.
в отличие от хрюшек в рф перепись проводится@@eevviill
у нас в Мариуполе погибших явно выше 25 000
I got more confusion not less from your cartoon
As you said, both sides change the numbers in their favour, and i think it's not good to do these analyses before the end of the war. When the sides reach a peace, only then it's useful to grab all the data to study it
Nice numbers from the ceiling.
с потолка прямо не перевести епта, в английском это pull out of thin air
this is an incorrect statistic, in reality Russia has already lost about 100000000000 people, while Ukraine has 1 person per day, for a free press these will be exact figures, because this video is only for freedom and people who value democracy
@@dmitriiageev8718actually glorius mother communism russia with the power of russian spirit lost 0 men since they are russians that are famous for caring about their men and not throwing them on a machine guns through the history🤙🇷🇺😲. Remember those times when russia suffered less loses than their opponents? Only few wars were they lost more people than the defenders, 1905 they lost more than the Japanese (exception), lost more than the germans in ww1 (exception), lost more than the fins in 1939 (excpetion) lost more than the germans in ww2 (exception), First chechen war (excpetion), And Donbas conflict since 2014 till 2022 (exception), As you can see glorius wagner zov russia never lose more men then their enemy😲🤙 glory to russia😲🤙🇷🇺☦️🤲☪️
@@dmitriiageev8718 actually glorius mother communism russia with the power of russian spirit lost 0 men since they are russians that are famous for caring about their men and not throwing them like meat through the history🤙🇷🇺😲. Remember those times when russia suffered less loses than their opponents? Only few wars were they lost more people than the defenders, 1905 they lost more than the Japanese (exception), lost more than the germans in ww1 (exception), lost more than the fins in 1939 (excpetion) lost more than the germans in ww2 (exception), First chechen war (excpetion), And Donbas conflict since 2014 till 2022 (exception), As you can see glorius wаginer russia never lose more men then their enemy😲🤙 glory to russia😲🤙🇷🇺☦️🤲☪️
one should not forget most of the civil wars in 3rd world countries have primarily civilian casualties and not military ones, in 20 years of Afghanistan only 6-ish thousand western soldiers died
This is not civil war, it’s the war between two countries. So, it would be wrong to compare it to civil wars.
@@ukrainer7723 that is what i said
@@ukrainer7723 Civil wars can be equally if not more destructive than two countries at war to civilian population.
1:38 Imagine, that we played with this guys CS GO together
Having watched some more of your video I must say, you are hyper-biased and obviously never even considered what the Russian side says or checked the Ukrainian/Western side for plausibility.
There are people who do this out of ignorance and there are people who do this because they are making money, whether directly or indirectly by surfing the augury that promotes the pro-Western side much more. In both cases, this type of video is useless.
Russia had reported they had destroyed the entirety of Ukrainian aircraft and tanks multiple times over lmao. Cope.
@@p_serdiuk How about a proper citation? Can't? Well, then maybe what you said isn't true in the first place.
@@wassollderscheiss33 What proper citation? Konashenkov's presentations are a matter of public record, as is the relevant Ukrainian data. You can just look it up.
@@p_serdiuk As in "do your own research"? 🤣
Holy shit Denys's story 😮💨. What a fucking MAN. He must've known that was the end, and he chose to sacrifice himself so his squad could live.
I thought you were talking about denys davydov
@@mohamedmido4866 deny airplane driver ?
@@HNH421
Yes the stupid one
Many more stories like his untold
You're extremely talented I really appreciated your video.
can you tell how it starts?
russia invaded Ukraine 24 february 2022. The End
with Canada saving Ukrainian Nazies collaborants in it's houses after WW2, sponsoring anti-russian groups on western ukraine after USSR collapse, 2004 and 2014 coups etc. Ukrainian nazies were in every war (except Serbian Kosovo and Transnistria) against Russia(with baltics etc)
Long-term investions, rly
Thank you. It seems like we were interested in the war until it had gone on beyond our attention span, but people continue to suffer in Ukraine. Then the Israel/Hamas war broke out and we hear more about that than Ukraine, which is sad because both wars deserve the world’s attention.
Was quite expected sadly, Pytin's "wait until westerners stop caring" strategy worked 3 times before and it doesn't seem West actually wants it to stop working.
you guys have had a more luxurious spotlight and more sympathy than any other country in modern times.
1 has a real war other is just a massacre
@@lmnk US allways carried and created the war and when the US public gets tried of it they throw them away they should have just done the peace deal in Turkey insted of listing to Boris that they u help them with anything they needed
@@MRXi0 its just a border dispute which is vastly exaggerated by the media
Good job on the video. But, it is much more complicated that this because the DPR and LPR have their own troops fighting in the conflict. The DPR and LPR (especially the DPR) losses have been catastrophic. I have friends fighting on both the Ukrainian and Russian sides and I think your numbers are very low. Many losses are never reported. And, with rail and bridges destroyed, road unsafe to travel, and MANPADS making helicopter/air evacuations impossible many deaths are never reported and soldiers are buried in the field in unmarked graves.
Even today, Russia is still searching for unmarked mass graves from the Siege of Leningrad (and finding them regularly). It will be the same situation with this war nearly 80 years later.
I agree. When he said 190 thousand Russian soldiers invaded, he forgot to mention the mercenaries, DPR/LPR, mercenaries and lots of international fighters
i think its true for both sides, though the dpr and lpr are at least by russia considered russian losses now. not so much at the start of the war.
And it should be noted that the west is only to happy to label losses in the annexed region as either russian or ukrainian losses depending on what suits the propaganda needs at the moment.
@@islandwills2778 Yeah its iffy, At the start of the war, it didnt feel like the LPR and DPR were reporting their losses. I noticed alot of the front line fighting in the east was mainly done by LPR and DPR, with Russian forces used as clean up crews. The siege of Mariupol was mainly spear headed by DPR troops, until they took heavy casualties and Russian regular units were rotated in.
@@islandwills2778 I completely agree. I think that there is a lot of misunderstanding about this leading to people thinking Russia is severely under reporting their numbers. But Russian army was reporting Russian army losses, not their losses + everybody else on their side (DPR/LPR/etc). This is likely why there is such a big difference between eg the early UK estimates of 15000 and Russian army 6000. The 15000 is might be on the high side, but the main reason for the difference are very likely the losses of other forces like DPR & LPR.
The Russian BBC numbers are likely a reasonably good true estimate of the actual Russian KIA. Unfortunately we dont have anything similar for Ukraine, but the numbers posted in this video however for sure is pure propaganda. "USA not a party to the conflict" is just not true. Its US money and military factories driving this war, and to keep the money flowing the numbers have to "look good enough" (ie Russia hurting more than Ukraine).
Considering the amount of 40,50,60,70 year old men, men being force "drafted" right of the streets, increasing number of women fighters, and Zelenski trying to get all of EU to force return male refugees are surely all witness of the horribly large losses on the Ukr side, many times higher than the US numbers used in this video. The pool of young males to draw new soldiers from are literally empty when you need to use these methods for a year already. It also makes logical sense for Ukr to have much higher losses, since 80-90% of causalities in this type of warfare comes from indirect fire (mainly Artillery), where Russia has about a 10:1 advantage vs Ukraine. Add to this Ukr has mostly been attacking into prepared Russian defenses and also that Ukr very likely has much worse resources for treating hurt soldiers (eg lots of hospitals far away from a war zone), logically leading to many more Ukr soldiers dying due to lack of care than Russian. Thus I would assume the true Ukr KIA is likely around 5x the US propaganda numbers.
@@stefanh616 What i will never understand is in a war where 80% of the casualties are from artillery and this according to ukraine why would anyone ever think that ukraine is outperforming russia? Russia has had and continues to have a LOT more artillery than ukraine. When most deaths and injuries are from artillery and one side has more its going to be pretty obvious which side suffers more.
Russia has captured female POWs who were PREGNANT if such an event does not show just how bad the manpower shortage is for ukraine i just dont know what will.
Now does ukraine have more men (and women) that they can throw into the meat grinder? Yes absolutely but the quality of the "recruits" will go down simply because they will be getting less and less capable soldiers.
All the healthy, fit, motivated men will be gone. That will leave men of increasingly lower physical abilities, mental abilities and lower over all moral.
Then there is the factor of the more men you send to the battlefield the more impact it will have on the economy. So long as the usa and allies are paying the soldiers and propping up the economy i suppose thats not an issue but one should never fight a war where you are completely reliant on foreign aid.
One has to wonder just what the final consequences of this will be for ukraine? What will be left because one way or the other the west will need to be paid.
Great vid !!!! Really interesting. Thanks for not begging for subs at the start. So I’ve subbed and liked 😊
It is impossible to talk about lost lives without mentioning that these lives were killed thanks to Russia
flat thinking
It's very likely and believable that, in a conflict where ~80% of casualties are the result of artillery, the side which has been firing 4-5x more artillery throughout the entire conflict has been taking more casualties, actually.
Well artillery can be owerwelming (Russian style) or precision artillery (Nato style), considering that a lot of ucraine have nato level equipment + they are in the defensive and open source intelligence (like oryx) call many more Russian veicles destroyed in comparison to Ucraine i think ucrainian casualty are similar or even In small UA favor
@@jacopofolin6400 ukraine did receive western artillery, but it was only a few percent of the total number of artillery pieces. Most of Ukraine's artillery is of Soviet and Russian origin. And be under any illusions about the accuracy of Western artillery systems, the M109 paladin howitzer has a CEP accuracy of about 300m at its maximum range. Russian howitzers Msta-S and Msta-B reach the same values. Ukraine only received tens of thousands of accurate guided shells for artillery. these were Exculiber shells . Russia, on the other hand, uses Krasnopol shells . In terms of accuracy, both sides are the same. The only thing where the Ukrainians have higher accuracy is the Himars MLRS system, but only 20 of those were delivered from the USA, and from Europe a few more pieces of the German MARS and the original MLRS M270 version. Alternatively, you can find videos where Ukrainians praise the high accuracy of the loot system Msta. the MSTA system and today the Koalicia system are some of the best artillery systems and It achieve the same accuracy with a standard shell as for example the PZh2000.
And what you need to be aware of is that the Russians use TOS systems with a thermobaric warhead in addition to regular MLRS, and there the mortality rate in the target area is almost 100%, it won't help you to hide in a trench or bunker there, if a vacuum is created in the target area you will still be injured or it kills, blast syndrome is the worst thing that can happen to you, after the attack ends you feel fine, just shaken, but within a few hours your lungs and internal organs collapse from the shock wave that hit you. and if you weren't injured at the beginning, you're still in the trench on the fort and dying without medical help, just because you weren't visibly injured during the attack.
@@jacopofolin6400But the real truth is that Russia has overwhelming and at the same time accurate artillery. Denying that is fatal. For Ukraine.
@@MrZlocktar Ur wrong, this might be in the first 2-3 months of the war, but latest with the Himars the game changed completely in favor of Ukraine. This is obvious when you watch wildfire maps from satellites. And Russian artillery was never as precise as the NATO one, not even close. Therefore Russia should avoid a real conflict with NATO, they wouldn't have any chance to withstand for more than max. 4 weeks.
@@MrZlocktar we know they have a lack of guided shells because are extremly expensive and even before the war they relied on mostly standard shells. They correct them Whit drone but still Is way less accurate of nato/ucrainian. Think about It, during the Summer offensive th moving veicles werent destroyed by artillery like the ucrainians do but Whit kamikaze drones and White atgm lunched from elicopters. They wouldent had to risk the eli if they had artillery precise as the west