This is a nice video, but one correction: Royal Enfield definitely *did* mass produce a diesel motorcycle. It was called the Taurus and it was produced from the 1980s until 2000. Unlike the bike in this video, it was by no means a performance machine, but it did get approximately 200 mpg.
The contra-rotating twin crank design goes back to Frederick Lanchesters original design in 1895! He was without doubt one of the world's true innovative engineers when it came to engine design. Balancer shafts today are still using his designs from over 100 years ago! It's a shame the video did not credit him for this twin crank invention. Queen Elizebeth's very first public appearance as a child was in a Lanchester car.
I think it's beautiful. Big, Bad, and Buff! It's a beasty. It;s a shame that the audio was so short, I'd love to hear it at full song. Imagine a 2 stroke diesel V-8 in a bike?
As someone interested in theoretical engine layouts like inline 7 engines, this twin crank design is extremely intriguing. It would eliminate the serious balance concerns and make it possible to build an engine with an exhaust that sounds like a musical note.
I'm a diesel mechanic. Do you realize how bad you would smell after driving a diesel motorcycle.How much more toxic breathing diesel fumes are. Great, cool they did it but that's where it ends.
@@fidelcatsro6948 they still get sucked in behind you due to bernoullis. theres simply no way to avoid that negative pressure zone... not without elaborate aerodynamics. used to ride the motorised pushbike, was always whined at about smelling like two stroke exhaust. no matter what, it gets sucked up and sits behind you... had a flag on the back of my motorbike... only one person could explain why it pointed TOWARDS me rather than fluttering behind as one would intuitively expect was a helicopter pilot...
@@fidelcatsro6948 it still smells though. you cant avoid that, either. good turbo and fuel map. the visible smoke may disappear, still stinks though... maybe vege oil, smell like fish and chips :)
85,000 is just out of the question. Nice idea and may serve a good purpose, but for anyone to make money and sell these in the masses, they've got to have their production/sales cost cheaper
DOUBLE FORK IS FOR STYLE ON THAT BIKE ON THE NIKEN IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE 2 WHEELS ON THE FRONT AND A VERY COMPLICATED SUSPENSION IS NEEDED FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO LEAN
Wow i cant imagine how this didnt catch on $85,000 !!! who with 85k cares about fuel economy ?? which at the end of the day is the ONLY reason to put a diesil in a bike - and how many miles would you have to ride to get back the extra $65000 in fuel savings over an equivilent harley or honda or BMW ? - This would of been an intreasting bike if theyd actually made a Supermono race rep - they still would not of sold any at 85k -
Never underestimate the innate drive of some humans to spend enormous amounts of money to own something that others can't afford, no matter how ridiculous it may be.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Many companies do things like this, in an effort to push technology forward. I’m sure the first guy to spend two days fashioning a pair of wheels met with similar responses-“in the time you’ve wasted making those, you could have just made two trips to carry your stuff, and still had a day and half to accomplish something actually useful!” Or, for a more recent example, consider the lightbulb. When practically everyone already had a workable solution for interior lighting-coal gas or oil lamps-why would a loon like Edison spend so much time and money working on a cockamamie dream for a much more complex technology, relying on brand new and unproven manufacturing processes, and requiring a power source with no existing distribution network? The goal is to figure out how to make a new and worthwhile implement work, at any expense, and then afterward figure out how to make it economically feasible. That said, obviously the company has to figure out a way to balance the books, and many great products have failed disastrously because of brilliant designers’ lack of business acumen. I’m not saying a diesel fueled bike is a great idea, but I’m saying technological progress doesn’t usually match our expectations. In the 50’s they thought by 2024 everyone would be wearing a one-piece silver jumpsuit while commuting in his jet-powered car to his job in a floating cloud city, and that the moon, Venus, and Mars would all have thriving colonies. Instead, we’re streaming UHD videos to our old and crumbling houses and writing letters to each other on our magic pocket computers while growing out our ill-advised mullets and walling ourselves off from genuine human interaction to the greatest extent possible.
There are two other reasons: Range Fuel interchangeability The first would probably be better achieved by a small efficient petrol engine, or just a bigger fuel tank. But the second, that is an absolute enormous problem requiring a diesel motorcycle… for the military. That’s why a few militaries use diesel KLR bikes. Because, for example, the entire US military runs on diesel (or uranium). A parallel tanker system for petrol motorcycles would be a logistical nightmare.
It is obvious you have no knowledge of what and how a diesel engine works and the advantages of the diesel engine. Stop dwelling on money and expand your world by not being so negative, and also stop trying to impress every body with your wisdom. You may find a friend finally.
That is an amazing bit of kit. I never even knew they existed! It's a pity they were never able to mass produce them. Their overall shape and appearance reminded me of crazy Boss Hoss V8's 😳🤯. That was a really good watch 😉👍🏻. However, your engine specification and output data, at around 2m 40secs, was fired out at such a rapid pace that I had to listen to it 3 times before I understood it all. Just slow it down a bit, my friend 😉👍🏻. We're not going anywhere. And, as a new subscriber, I'm looking forward to seeing what other weird and wonderful bits of bike insanity are out there. Do you look at just new bike design manufacturers and innovators, or do you also look at guys in their sheds who are creating weird and wonderful 'one off' works of art? Ever heard of a guy called Allen Millyard? 🤯🤯🤯. The guy is a bona-fide genius.
Thank you🤝 The thing is those videos - all my works. They just translated and optimized for eng audience. Yeah a bit too fast, buuut in pretty good format of 8-10 mins. Just technically tough to do it all longer. You’ll see here tons of unique content about weirdest, rarest and most interesting bikes. No matter if its small serial production, market bikes or motorcycles in one example.
I’m not sure that there’s even a human being behind these lame videos! For sure, whoever it is seems to be immune to sarcasm. Like maybe they don’t speak English!
The British firm known as Ariel built a 1000cc Square Four gasoline engined bike with two crankshafts for the same vibration elimination reason. The first Square Four was sold in 1929 and the last one in 1959.
One of the biggest advantages of a diesel is the fact that diesel fuel has approximately 20% more calories by weight than petrol. Thus ensuring better mpg.
😂 yeah that's true but your overlooking that we buy motorcycles for smiles per mile not miles per gallon. E85 has less than gas but it gives bigger smiles than gas and far bigger smiles than diesel
That costs more than my house. Really. Now how about making something that isn't an expensive cruiser, how about an around town bike with a smaller displacement diesel engine? Affordable, too.
Your comment about diesel engines and motor cycles is wrong. Harley Davidson made bikes with diesel for US ARMY. Although the bike didn't enter service , there's bikes out there carrying a diesel. Look around RUclips. There a motor cycle guy that has a page about all kinds of bikes . He bought one , out of the crate directly from Harley Davidson. He made a great video about it
the problem with diesel motorcycles is someone's always trying to turn the diesel engine into something that isn't if someone make a 500cc diesel engine basic low revving put it on a small bike to compete with the 250 class and sell it for between 6000 and 7000 dollars they would have a winner on their hands
Would be a shame to put garbage oil in such a fine machine. I would use No2 or No1 pure dinasaur oil in that bad boy. Waste oil just introduces problems. The vegetable oil diesel just turns to a jell and clogs up the works
With 2 crankshafts this 2 cylinder would probably be more expensive than a 4 cilinder. Also strange: now that ICE is obsolete and everyone is transitioning to electric, there have never been as much videos about new ICE tech. 🤔
Thats because its far from obsolete. Electric powered vehicles at this point are just a gimmick. Battery tech isnt there to make them truly practical and the resources to make the batteries are limited. Hydrogen power is the way. Infact the HySE-X1 (hydrogen powered) is being entered into the Dakar rally which is well over 4000k miles total.
No no no... The Niken has 2 WHEELS on the front forks. There are plenty of cruisers weighing around the same this monstrosity does with standard forks.. 🤦
Yeah, it’s computer generated voice track. This channel is mostly a copy and paste job; take someone else’s videos and add a lame narration. A fake and lame narration created by a computer. Strike One, Strike Two, Strike Three-you’re outta there, fool!
This is, in my opinion, a stupid design. I was intrigued when it was first annnounced, but the more I thought about it, the less impressed I was. I am a fan of diesels, they are my job, so the idea of a diesel bike appealed to me. But this engine design has a major flaw, in that it is kinematically redundant. The cylinder defines the axis on which the piston moves. The dual cranks and conrods also define the axis. They are very unlikely to agree given manufacturing tolerances. A normal engine will still work just fine if you move the crank relative to the bore axis left, right or down by several mm. (up is more limited....) This design requires the cranks to be phaesed _absolutely_ correctly, and the phasing to match _exactly) the bore axis. Anything even _slightly_ wrong can only be compensated by the piston rocking in the bore. It would probably work better with a single con-rod and no gears, but then the other crank is just a balance shaft driven in a stuopid way.
Actually, early in the video there is an animation of some sort of master con-rod with two subsidiary conrods to address this issue, but that feels like an over-complication to address a fundamentally flawed idea. Most of the other animations do not show this.
I can't see how adding extra mass is more efficient. More parts moving up and down and round and round means that more energy is used to move the parts. It takes more energy to rotate a heavier wheel which means less energy available to move the load.
Engine is uuuuuuglyyyy! Sorry. It's really ugly.that square block and head , yuck. Extend the side's of the head and round them out would be a major improvment. Sort of like and old triumph twin
This is a nice video, but one correction: Royal Enfield definitely *did* mass produce a diesel motorcycle. It was called the Taurus and it was produced from the 1980s until 2000. Unlike the bike in this video, it was by no means a performance machine, but it did get approximately 200 mpg.
Was it a turbo diesel or just a diesel I think the one ur talking about is just diesel
@@dillonjames-so5cz -- Just a regular diesel. If I remember correctly, it made 7 hp and *maybe* it could hit 45 mph.
It reached those 45mph in a very, veeeeeery slow time tho.
Lols there was one genius in office who had one for commuting... turned out he completely forgot to fill fuel and couldn't use it 😂
@@shaftdrive7567Aint got no gas in it😂
The contra-rotating twin crank design goes back to Frederick Lanchesters original design in 1895! He was without doubt one of the world's true innovative engineers when it came to engine design. Balancer shafts today are still using his designs from over 100 years ago!
It's a shame the video did not credit him for this twin crank invention.
Queen Elizebeth's very first public appearance as a child was in a Lanchester car.
I would buy one in a heartbeat “ if I could afford it “. Incredible bike!👍😊🇨🇦
I think it's beautiful. Big, Bad, and Buff! It's a beasty. It;s a shame that the audio was so short, I'd love to hear it at full song. Imagine a 2 stroke diesel V-8 in a bike?
As someone interested in theoretical engine layouts like inline 7 engines, this twin crank design is extremely intriguing. It would eliminate the serious balance concerns and make it possible to build an engine with an exhaust that sounds like a musical note.
I’m interested in the inline 9 and inline 13 engines. If I had to pick a favorite it would be the inline 9 cylinder.
I'm a diesel mechanic. Do you realize how bad you would smell after driving a diesel motorcycle.How much more toxic breathing diesel fumes are. Great, cool they did it but that's where it ends.
Naaah we just need to put the exhaust pipe vertically like a truck to ensure those fumes go way above our head
@@fidelcatsro6948 they still get sucked in behind you due to bernoullis. theres simply no way to avoid that negative pressure zone... not without elaborate aerodynamics.
used to ride the motorised pushbike, was always whined at about smelling like two stroke exhaust. no matter what, it gets sucked up and sits behind you...
had a flag on the back of my motorbike... only one person could explain why it pointed TOWARDS me rather than fluttering behind as one would intuitively expect was a helicopter pilot...
@@paradiselost9946 It wont be as messy as a truck because of the immense torque it makes without having to haul a ton of goods like a truck..
@@fidelcatsro6948 it still smells though. you cant avoid that, either. good turbo and fuel map. the visible smoke may disappear, still stinks though...
maybe vege oil, smell like fish and chips :)
@@paradiselost9946 its okay, nothing like the smell of Castrol 2 cycle oil from the thrusters of a 2 stroke engine..
85,000 is just out of the question.
Nice idea and may serve a good purpose, but for anyone to make money and sell these in the masses, they've got to have their production/sales cost cheaper
Brilliant! Minimal friction due to equal balance and piston central walls
DOUBLE FORK IS FOR STYLE ON THAT BIKE ON THE NIKEN IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE 2 WHEELS ON THE FRONT AND A VERY COMPLICATED SUSPENSION IS NEEDED FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO LEAN
Spitzenklasse 👍
Spitzmäßig 👍
Top Diesel👍
Top Performance 👍
Super Technik 🥰👍
Das braucht die Menschheit 👍
Technik die 100 Jahre hält 👍
Tested on my hometown racing circuit, Grobnik Automotodrom
In Germany?
@@wierdbike Croatia
Is there any video for the valve train, the camshafts and the cylinder head assembly.
I hope in the future there will emerge real turbodiesel motorbike with affordable price with more simple design..i will buy one for sure
It lacked a supercharger and it would have been awesome. Maybe even tinier and lighter. Love these weird bikes
Dude that was an impressive numbers rapp .You were spiting some facts awesome.
Somewhere and everywhere☺️
Wow i cant imagine how this didnt catch on $85,000 !!! who with 85k cares about fuel economy ?? which at the end of the day is the ONLY reason to put a diesil in a bike - and how many miles would you have to ride to get back the extra $65000 in fuel savings over an equivilent harley or honda or BMW ? - This would of been an intreasting bike if theyd actually made a Supermono race rep - they still would not of sold any at 85k -
Never underestimate the innate drive of some humans to spend enormous amounts of money to own something that others can't afford, no matter how ridiculous it may be.
👌🏻 Perfect!@@wheressteve
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Many companies do things like this, in an effort to push technology forward. I’m sure the first guy to spend two days fashioning a pair of wheels met with similar responses-“in the time you’ve wasted making those, you could have just made two trips to carry your stuff, and still had a day and half to accomplish something actually useful!” Or, for a more recent example, consider the lightbulb. When practically everyone already had a workable solution for interior lighting-coal gas or oil lamps-why would a loon like Edison spend so much time and money working on a cockamamie dream for a much more complex technology, relying on brand new and unproven manufacturing processes, and requiring a power source with no existing distribution network? The goal is to figure out how to make a new and worthwhile implement work, at any expense, and then afterward figure out how to make it economically feasible. That said, obviously the company has to figure out a way to balance the books, and many great products have failed disastrously because of brilliant designers’ lack of business acumen. I’m not saying a diesel fueled bike is a great idea, but I’m saying technological progress doesn’t usually match our expectations. In the 50’s they thought by 2024 everyone would be wearing a one-piece silver jumpsuit while commuting in his jet-powered car to his job in a floating cloud city, and that the moon, Venus, and Mars would all have thriving colonies. Instead, we’re streaming UHD videos to our old and crumbling houses and writing letters to each other on our magic pocket computers while growing out our ill-advised mullets and walling ourselves off from genuine human interaction to the greatest extent possible.
There are two other reasons:
Range
Fuel interchangeability
The first would probably be better achieved by a small efficient petrol engine, or just a bigger fuel tank.
But the second, that is an absolute enormous problem requiring a diesel motorcycle… for the military. That’s why a few militaries use diesel KLR bikes. Because, for example, the entire US military runs on diesel (or uranium). A parallel tanker system for petrol motorcycles would be a logistical nightmare.
It is obvious you have no knowledge of what and how a diesel engine works and the advantages of the diesel engine. Stop dwelling on money and expand your world by not being so negative, and also stop trying to impress every body with your wisdom. You may find a friend finally.
promising design. very clever.
Great topic! I still love 2 strokes.
That is an amazing bit of kit. I never even knew they existed! It's a pity they were never able to mass produce them. Their overall shape and appearance reminded me of crazy Boss Hoss V8's 😳🤯.
That was a really good watch 😉👍🏻.
However, your engine specification and output data, at around 2m 40secs, was fired out at such a rapid pace that I had to listen to it 3 times before I understood it all. Just slow it down a bit, my friend 😉👍🏻. We're not going anywhere.
And, as a new subscriber, I'm looking forward to seeing what other weird and wonderful bits of bike insanity are out there.
Do you look at just new bike design manufacturers and innovators, or do you also look at guys in their sheds who are creating weird and wonderful 'one off' works of art?
Ever heard of a guy called Allen Millyard? 🤯🤯🤯. The guy is a bona-fide genius.
Thank you🤝
The thing is those videos - all my works. They just translated and optimized for eng audience. Yeah a bit too fast, buuut in pretty good format of 8-10 mins. Just technically tough to do it all longer.
You’ll see here tons of unique content about weirdest, rarest and most interesting bikes. No matter if its small serial production, market bikes or motorcycles in one example.
Congrats on your 1k subscribers buddy
Thank’s🤝🤝🤝
I’m not sure that there’s even a human being behind these lame videos!
For sure, whoever it is seems to be immune to sarcasm. Like maybe they don’t speak English!
In a time where they are pushing to ban diesel engines. I’m surprised the government hasn’t required it to have a DPF and DEF.
I WANT ONE !!! great video Dude 😉😎
There have been over 10,000 KLR650 HDT made over the years. Is that not mass production then?
The British firm known as Ariel built a 1000cc Square Four gasoline engined bike with two crankshafts for the same vibration elimination reason. The first Square Four was sold in 1929 and the last one in 1959.
There was another company that continued to build a bike with the square four engine in the 1970s,
Healey Brothers .
Don't forget the Suzuki RG500 twostroke racebikes please?
One of the biggest advantages of a diesel is the fact that diesel fuel has approximately 20% more calories by weight than petrol. Thus ensuring better mpg.
😂 yeah that's true but your overlooking that we buy motorcycles for smiles per mile not miles per gallon. E85 has less than gas but it gives bigger smiles than gas and far bigger smiles than diesel
👍 Thanks!
Can we see more videos on 2 crank and 2 con rods bikes.
Delly belly thank you for the video uncle, gandi will be proud of you
wat???
Unsure if this guys is an Aussie an yank or indian his accent changes every video
@@matthewwhite4008 he's ukrainian
That costs more than my house. Really. Now how about making something that isn't an expensive cruiser, how about an around town bike with a smaller displacement diesel engine? Affordable, too.
Just put a toyota hilux engine into the frame of a chopper bike😂😂😂
Seen one at the Isle of Man last august
I bet it sounded like a cummins truck
Your comment about diesel engines and motor cycles is wrong. Harley Davidson made bikes with diesel for US ARMY. Although the bike didn't enter service , there's bikes out there carrying a diesel. Look around RUclips. There a motor cycle guy that has a page about all kinds of bikes . He bought one , out of the crate directly from Harley Davidson. He made a great video about it
Nm is Newton metre not nanometre.
200 Nm is 200 Newton of force on a metre.
200 nm 0.0000002 metre of length.
I said “Nm” i guess…
@@wierdbike "nanometre" is what ca be heard.
It's AI read. This is Sewage content.
Same goes for the 650mm saddle height, says 650 Mim
@@gafrers Mim?
@@JoaoManuelCanelas Listen to when the saddle height is mentioned. Doesn't say Millimeters or mm
Engine size and weight is everything to a motorcycle.
This is a cruiser, not a sportbike. Its not designed for racing. Size/weight its not so much of a concern.
@@Pyroteknikid
Let's make it long, low and
and with a 'Jake break '!!! 👍
@@teamgonzo9289 Dont forget the stacks and light bars everywhere!
Nice
the problem with diesel motorcycles is someone's always trying to turn the diesel engine into something that isn't if someone make a 500cc diesel engine basic low revving put it on a small bike to compete with the 250 class and sell it for between 6000 and 7000 dollars they would have a winner on their hands
I wonder how this double crank would work in a gasoline engine
If it doesn't shake, it's not a diesel. Now what is this exactly???
this is breaking news for the last 20 years !
Now put desmodromic valves on it. Then you've got a real monster.
Am I the only one that noticed his accent changes in the video?
I'd love one! Run it on waste vegetable oil. How cool would that be?!
Old fish and chip oil , make everyone hungry when you ride around town ! .
Would be a shame to put garbage oil in such a fine machine. I would use No2 or No1 pure dinasaur oil in that bad boy. Waste oil just introduces problems. The vegetable oil diesel just turns to a jell and clogs up the works
Which motorcyclists dislike vibrations.
Single fork can't take load transfer of 278kilo bike..hasn't he heard of HD or gold wings.
Die Firma kommt aus Kiel in Deutschland. Ich hab die mal in echt gesehen. Ein gelesen Bike
With 2 crankshafts this 2 cylinder would probably be more expensive than a 4 cilinder. Also strange: now that ICE is obsolete and everyone is transitioning to electric, there have never been as much videos about new ICE tech. 🤔
Thats because its far from obsolete. Electric powered vehicles at this point are just a gimmick. Battery tech isnt there to make them truly practical and the resources to make the batteries are limited. Hydrogen power is the way. Infact the HySE-X1 (hydrogen powered) is being entered into the Dakar rally which is well over 4000k miles total.
dude, please pronounce the measurement units correctly!
I do my best, bro…
Does anyone know where the original video is, this robot voice is utter gash.
This is the original
No no no... The Niken has 2 WHEELS on the front forks. There are plenty of cruisers weighing around the same this monstrosity does with standard forks.. 🤦
While nice in a MC, it’s real application is aviation
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Amazing engineering, but why bother.
Take the turbocharger of diesels and you have a slug
Attach to a T-Rex RR Tri Wheel!
MPH/ miles per hour.
This machine (and anyone associated with it) will smell horrible. Also, I thought this would be a torquey cruiser, so why does it need six gears?
I WANT ONE OF THOSE NEW ONE'S AND ALLSO A TAURUS.
♥️🇩🇰K.H.C.🇩🇰.
🇩🇰♥️COPENHAGEN♥️DENMARK🇩🇰.
And: you can't buy nor afford it!
Kawasaki KLR650.
Cant listen to the narration.... so ta ta good by
Yeah, it’s computer generated voice track.
This channel is mostly a copy and paste job; take someone else’s videos and add a lame narration. A fake and lame narration created by a computer.
Strike One, Strike Two, Strike Three-you’re outta there, fool!
😢😢😢
This is, in my opinion, a stupid design. I was intrigued when it was first annnounced, but the more I thought about it, the less impressed I was.
I am a fan of diesels, they are my job, so the idea of a diesel bike appealed to me.
But this engine design has a major flaw, in that it is kinematically redundant.
The cylinder defines the axis on which the piston moves.
The dual cranks and conrods also define the axis.
They are very unlikely to agree given manufacturing tolerances.
A normal engine will still work just fine if you move the crank relative to the bore axis left, right or down by several mm. (up is more limited....)
This design requires the cranks to be phaesed _absolutely_ correctly, and the phasing to match _exactly) the bore axis.
Anything even _slightly_ wrong can only be compensated by the piston rocking in the bore.
It would probably work better with a single con-rod and no gears, but then the other crank is just a balance shaft driven in a stuopid way.
Actually, early in the video there is an animation of some sort of master con-rod with two subsidiary conrods to address this issue, but that feels like an over-complication to address a fundamentally flawed idea. Most of the other animations do not show this.
I can't see how adding extra mass is more efficient. More parts moving up and down and round and round means that more energy is used to move the parts. It takes more energy to rotate a heavier wheel which means less energy available to move the load.
Engine is uuuuuuglyyyy! Sorry. It's really ugly.that square block and head , yuck. Extend the side's of the head and round them out would be a major improvment. Sort of like and old triumph twin
AI narration makes me very sad. Please hire a real human narrator or just do it yourself.
Ive road big bore harleys the torque is rediculous. I bet this was insane. You DO NOT need that much tq in a bike. Its just a dumb toy
East-European accent...
India accent...
bro, take the marbles out of your mouth when you speak