It’s ridiculous you can’t judge players by international level because you can’t choose where you’re born so we have to look at club football and he’s won everything. With a golden boot. IMO he’s table 1
@@JermaineWilliams-t7j shut up, international matters a lot. Even if you were born in a ass country, you can lead them to sucess of their own standards(ex. Bale leading wales to their first WC in 60+ years
@@wingedhussar1453nah that's not true. Hazards greatest runs were all in the Premier League & he's being glazed as one of the greatest wingers in the world lol
As a german I can tell you that the whole country would be fuming if they saw someone claiming Sane is better than Reus. Even the biggest Bayern or Schalke fan would admit that Reus is like 10 times the player Sane ever was.
@@markuse4620 ja hat ihn in keinem der Rankings gelistet. Ich meine aber Spieler wie Del Pierro oder Dybala sind auch in keinem Ranking gewesen. Ist halt iwie schwer solche Spieler einer der Kategorien zuzuordnen, irgendwas zwischen Mittelfeldspieler und Stürmer halt
@Yamamashouse247who are you to say what matters and what doesn’t? I could say the same for Salah at Chelsea. And for Egypt. What’s your point? Hazard won two PLs carrying the team. Does that not matter? He was the greatest ever player for Lille as a teenager, winning them a domestic double at 20. Does that not matter? Better not preach here with your nonsense.
The Salah disrespect is unreal. Pick a all time PL 11 and he walks into the RW(F) spot. All this nonsense that he is just a numbers guys is pretty desperate. Why is him having similar numbers to Henry a bad thing? Why is the PL's leading CL goalscorer a bad thing? Salah V Hazard should not even be a debate.
@raihankhan2922 salah is not even better than kdb while kdb was here salah was ridiculous in 2018 since then he hasn't been the the PL player, kane, kdb and rosri lately have been better
@@mark-kq7rc it is also a myth that Hazard was the best player during his years at Chelsea. He had seasons where Suarez, Yaya, Sanchez, Mahrez, Vardy, Salah, KDB all outperformed him. We all can play this game.
@6TimesBaby yes hazard was, Salah only year was 2018, after that he's was not even liverpool top 3 players lol. Van dikj, mane, Henderson, trent was better in all of those years
Facts. It's nasty work how he glazes Hazard for what he's done in the Premier League, but won't give that same energy to Mertens & Reus who easily would sit Table 3
@@osas5883 it’s not based on G/A. Sarah has never had a bad year for Liverpool. Hazard sacked off a whole season for Chelsea and then was a huge flop at Madrid. Nothing to do with numbers.
@@parksy1017well you forgot they had careers before 2017. Salah was literally warming the bench at Chelsea at some point. So your point doesn’t make sense.
Salah lacks moments but Hazard best moments are in the Efl cup whilst Salah are in the UCL? Who took their country to their first WC in 30 years? Salah has 36 more goal contributions in the UCL than Hazard. Origi has more ucl knockout goals in a span of 2 games than hazard has his whole life. Fraudulent list.
Nah I have to say internationally they are both lacking a bit even tho hazard had that crazy 2018 WC. One couldn’t win the afcon with the “best” afcon nation and the other had no international accolades with the golden generation of Belgium.
We get it, you are a Liverpool fan that is hurt. It hurts even more that it is Chelsea's player who Salah is compared to. However, Salah deserves more respect in my opinion. I remember he started that game in April 2014 and even got booked. His celebrations after Demba Ba goal were joyful and sincere. Big up to Chelsea legend Mo Salah!
I’m going to make a longer post about Figo because I don’t think people quite understand who this guy was (maybe an age thing). Individual Club: Ballon d’or winner in 2000 (5th in 99, 6th in 01). The ballon d’or win was in Zizou’s iconic Euros 2000 year, that’s how good Figo was. FIFA World Player of the year in 2001 (6th in 99, 2nd in 2000) 3x La Liga foreign PotY (99-01) Best player in primeira (1994) 2x leading assister in La Liga 1x CL top assister Inter PotY - 2006 Portuguese footballer of the year every year from 1995-2000 There are more but these are the top level. Individual International: World Cup all star team - 2006 Euros Team of the Tournament - 2000, 2004 FIFA 100 list (flawed though it is) Major Club Success: 4x La Liga Titles (2 Barca, 2 RM) 1x Champions League (RM) 4x Serie A Titles (Inter) International: Euros Final with Portugal Objectively, Luis Figo was a top 3-5 player in world football from 1999-2001 and probably top 10 in the couple of surrounding seasons. This was a time when you had Zizou, Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Shevchenko, Raul, Totti, early Thierry Henry and tons of other insane players. How many other players on this list can claim to be arguably the best player in the world and top 3-5 for a 3 year stretch? I would argue only Ronaldinho, Neymar, and maybe Mbappe. On top of that, he has a better international career and as much or more team success at the highest level than most names in tier 1. I just cannot see how he’s not tier 1, and to be honest, the higher end of tier 1 at that. Realistically, you cannot have a guy like Hazard above Figo, I don’t think it’s even close.
crazy that I have to scroll so long to see this comment. It's purely an age thing man. Only a handful of players from each generation will be held as some sort of mythical figure that still appears on top of these lists, the rest will just be forgetten. Figo's club career was arguably better than Zidane's, that's all you have to know. For me he is no.2 after Ronaldinho or Neymar.
@@ScheppundFries Absolutely. Crazy how guys the calibre of Figo and Rivaldo are being lost a bit to history. These were best player in the world level guys. Also, Hazard seems to be as high as he is based on his technical brilliance and match winning capabilities. Figo was easily as technically gifted and a match winner in his own right. I agree with your take. I personally do have Neymar marginally over Figo, but it’s close and you certainly wouldn’t see a strong argument from me on this topic. I’ve kind of changed this stance very recently. He’s an absolute no brainer tier 1. Top 3 of these guys for sure.
@@AlexBrown-xp7mt It's also a thing about the audience. This channel is an English speaking channel and has many young viewers from countries, which are not as developed in football culture than the traditional powerhouses. Ask anyone in Germany/Spain/Italy/South America, and no one in their mind would rank Hazard above Figo, even the younger ones. Heck, I live in Germany, and most people would put Reus above Hazard here.
@@ScheppundFries yeah that’s fair enough. I’m English myself so like to think I manage that bias pretty well. Hazard was exceptional at Chelsea for sure, but the prem was kind of in a weaker period during his peak as well. I do think he was the best player in the prem in 2015, surrounding seasons probably in and around that top 3-5 level, but Figo was in the discussion for best player on the planet for 3 years. Big difference. Hazard for me was never in that convo, probably even if you put Messi and Ronaldo to the side, still not.
I feel like cams values aesthetics too much. I saw a list where he said Saka has done well to even be in a tier with Joao Felix similar to what he said with Salah. The game is about impacting games and delivering for your team to help them win. It’s fair to put hazard above Salah but to say he’s lucky to be on the table just cause of aesthetics is crazy. If you watch a 90 minute game, Salah is a constant threat and usually the most dangerous player, I don’t get why he’s judged differently.
shows a lack of understanding of the game. this guy would look at players from the 80s and before and call them all trash because their foot work wasn't as aesthetic. its like judging a striker on the aesthetics of their finishing technique, or comparing passes by how good a player looks while playing them.
If you’re making a list based on how ‘great’ a player is, then sure. If it’s a ‘best player’ list. Aesthetics/technical ability matters the most. Output also matters here, but not as much.
@@LiamPowelluuu2Again, in terms of greatness, haaland has a great resume so far and is one of the best strikers of this generation. But based on his technical ability as a footballer, He’s nowhere near RVP for example.
Salah deserves more respect in my opinion. I remember he started that game in April 2014 and even got booked. His celebrations after Demba Ba goal were joyful and sincere. What a talent he was back then. Big up to Chelsea legend Mo Salah! 😆
Insigne is so underrated. Hazard gets table 1 even though most of what he did was in the prem only. Insigne was absolutely insane in Serie A but gets no flowers for that. From 2015 to 2022 he has like 150 G/A in Serie A. He scored 18 goals in 16/17 and 19 goals 20/21. And was a great dribbler and great passer on top of that. For me easily table 4. Edit: I just now saw the Part where Cams comes in slanders Insigne even more. Insane idk what you are smoking to think he belongs into table 6. Insigne below Nani and especially Nasri is insane to me tbh.
Agreed I was surprised how easily he was dismissed. If he played at a bigger club with more eyeballs he would be respected way more. Easily table 4 arguable table 3
@@russellmorgan7624 exactly my opinion as well. Just because he stayed loyal to Napoli and picked the worst possible time to leave them he could not win any trophies. Still a baller could have easily featured in any top teams starting 11.
Love the fact that you stuck with Vini at table 2. There are very few players in recent history who had the consistency and perfomances (especially in big games) he had over the last 3 season. If he had an international career to match he legit could've put up an all timer 3 year stretch.
@@akarshakz3922 brother he hit double digit goals and assists (separately) I each season besides the last one where he 15 goals and 6 assists but played only 26 games due to injury. He was Madrid's second best player in the league behind Jude last season, who's also a Ballon d'Or candidate and the second best player in La Liga behind Benzema 2 years back when he won the Ballon d'Or. What are you talking about
Let’s get one thing clear here. Figo is the 2nd best winger on this list behind Neymar, an undisputed table 1. He was arguably the best player in the world in club competitions for 3 years - the most monumental statement signing ever made by Fiorentino Perez. He was the most consistent player in the stacked Barcelona and Madrid teams he played in during his prime years. Always carried Portugal on his back. His only flaw was/is PR. Table two and behind Di Maria (who I rate immensely) is rancid stuff.
Yea crazy to think ballondr winner and best player in the world for 2000 2001 isn't in tier 1 .also he carried portugal team for years along with robben they should be tier 1. Hazard is tier 2 flops hard in bigger games.salah also hasn't carried egypt although he's more class then hazard. Salah should be top tier 2 along with hazard behind him.figo and robben tier 1 bottom
EH10 is the definition of football. Football these days measured by G/A but he was one of those players who would get you excited every time he was with the ball. Some of those solo goals in PL can't be replicated.
people are acting like hazard is a god, he never put consistent positive games, yes he had really good set of games but i would take a salah who is more impactful in a game or even a bale
Neymar shows that you can combine beauty with effectiveness compared to people on that list 100+ for 3 different clubs One of the best playmakers in his time in Europe and he looked amazing while doing it For me he was better than Hazard
@@Ed3nborg imo Neymar was behind Messi and Ronaldo, I think if Messi and Ronaldo weren’t born in this world, Neymar would have Atleast 2-3 ballondors while hazard would have 1
Notice how there ALL the players have either aesthetics but nothing to show for it, or something to show for it or lack aesthetics or have aesthetics and something to show it but to an average level. And then there's Neymar who's the most aesthetically pleasing footballer ever and has one of the best end products oat😂. The guy's an anomaly in EVERY aspect of the game. I'll never understand people who call him overrated or say he isn't a top 3 footballer in his gen. He gets insistently critized for not being one of the 3 greatest ever, they act like the dude isn't an alltime FAR CLEAR of the guys they uncritically laud it's frankly insane😂😂😂. Quite literally a GOAT level talent(up there with Messi) who got nerfed by injuries. Insane player a top 5 footballer ever idc what anyone says. Ability wise+stats+performances in big games for club and country there aren't 5 better in the history the sport.
Figo is one of the most disrespected player based on what he was rated during his playing days and being rated currently. He was rated like zidane R9 during late 90s and early 2000s. I rate giggs ahead of salah but at that time giggs and figo has considered to be in complete different tier
@ not a united fan. Giggs was left midfielders who was much more complete. Davies type speedster at 90s Beckham type intelligent crossing wide midfielders at early 2000s and scholes type rooming playmaker at late 2000s and 2010s. And I am a Madrid fan
@ronakshrestha5988 More complete than Salah? I'll give him crossing and that's about it lol at no point was Giggs ever in the conversation for best player in the world, unlike Salah who was in late 2022.
@LiamPowelluuu2Salah is better then giggs he's closer to figo. But figo at his time was best player in the world for couple of years and carried teams and portugal to finals
Hazards creation numbers in the UCL are 3rd all time to Neymar and Messi btw. He wasn’t a 30 goal scorer because he’s wasn’t an inside forward he’s dropping deep. How many defensive managers he played with. Hes easily table 1 for me. Peak for peak he’s better than bale for me too
Bale's peak edges hazard in aspects hazard wasn't elite in, pace, power, heading, shooting, not to mention bale had more big game moments throughout his career than eden
Not only that, he has the most chances created in open play per 90 in the last 10 years!! I agree, he was the focal point of Chelsea build-up phase for years, so to judge him on g/a is criminal. I also think its kinda weird to put Mbappe above him ngl, it's quite obvious he's not, Hazard was dropping insane numbers in Ligue 1 at 18 years old. He was also better then mbappe in wc18, but the france team as a whole was so clear of Belgium.
Hypotheticals aren't an interesting thing to talk about because they aren't real. "It's crazy how if Chris Wood scored 3,000 goals last game he'd be considered the greatest striker ever". I just did the same thing you did, is that an interesting discussion you'd like to have? Speaking about school, maybe you'd be a smarter person if you weren't day dreaming about football fantasies all day.
I agree but he talks about 2000 or later. Figo had his best years 96-03 so many years being during the 90s. For that reason I think it´s fair to have him in tier 2
I’ve seen people question Bale? Forgot trophies, as a footballer Gareth Bale was unplayable in a way the likes of Salah, Hazard etc weren’t. The guy could literally do everything. He was lighting quick, he could dribble, shoot with both feet, he was agile and acrobatic, great in the air, he had power. Prime Bale was the complete package
@@akarshakz3922 Hazard was a better dribbler than Bale, though, so I don't understand your point. Bale had the pace and power, but Ribery and Hazard were the two most technical dribblers on the wing after Ronaldinho and Neymar, so...
@@Al-ji4gd I never said Hazard wasn’t unplayable? Im js talent at their best.. Bale was literally unstoppable in a way Hazard wasn’t. Ive seen both live, Bale in his prime was an absolute freak. Bale was singlehandedly winning games for Wales, a terrible Spurs side and then at the highest level in Madrid. Like cmon bro, Bale is a ridiculous player
The thing a lot of Premier League fans do not grasp is that during the mid 2010s the league itself did not have the status it has today. It was known to be entertaining, because of many teams on a similar level, but the top teams could not compete with the big hitters in Europe. The top players in the league therefore also did not get the recognition outside of England as they do now. You could probably compare Hazard's status in Spain or Germany back then to the one of Raphael Leao nowadays. That's why his ranking will always vary a lot depending on who you are asking
The leao analogy is so spot on both phenomenal footballers with generational ability and profiles yet both well at least leao always seems to be limiting himself
We can say the same for Laliga and any other league, since 2018 an elclassico isnt even a big game anymore. The people who tend to watch it mostly is the fans of Messi and Ronaldo looking for the pleasure they once got. I mean who wakes up in the morning and wants to watch Osasuna vs Valencia? Id rather watch brentford vs Southampton which will be a genuinely entertaining match than any laliga match besides the big 3
Exactly, name one great UCL Prem performer from 2012-2017? Hazard, Aguero, Sanchez, De Gea, Silva etc all were unlucky to have their primes in the PL during that era, they were more than capable of doing what Salah/KDB/Kane etc are doing nowadays
People tend to focus on the age that a player declines but hardly focus on the age that a player ascends. There was no mention of what Hazard did at Lille. Plus the fact that he came to Chelsea at quite a young age, at a time when most players who went to Chelsea at a young age couldn't make it.. especially flare players. Hazard came and made an immediate impact at Chelsea and in the PL. Salah came to Chelsea at a similar age and couldn't break through. He was the best player at the world cup in 2018. So I'm glad you spoke on the first half of Hazards career compared to Salahs. I'm not saying you can't put Salah over Hazard.. you definitely could argue that too.
Can’t lie I love Lyes but his bias against Liverpool is where he gets let down. His United bias doesn’t even show as much but idk how someone can put salah in table 2 and how you can even think of putting gerrard in table 3 2 vids ago
37:40 Lyes, it's not even an argument. Mane was clearly the better player in 18/19 and 19/20 for Liverpool than Salah. Salah was better than him in every other season but those 2 seasons Liverpool's two best players were Van Dijk and Sadio Mane.
No, Mané was better in 19-20 but Salah was better in 18-19. Don’t forget in the first half of 18-19 when Mané struggled and it was Salah carrying Liverpool. When Liverpool needed to beat Napoli to make it to the UCL knockouts it was Salah who scored and came up clutch while Mané almost got us knocked out by missing 3 big chances.
@@Honest_LFC_Fan_YNWA Bale is light years ahead of Salah. His career suggest that and talent at their best.. Bale was literally unstoppable in a way Salah wasn’t. He could do everything. Ive seen both live, Bale in his prime was an absolute freak. Bale was singlehandedly winning games for Wales, a terrible Spurs side and then at the highest level in Madrid. Like cmon bro, Bale is a ridiculous player
Ribery's UCL 12/13 is soooo overrated lol. he was arguably worse than robben in those semi finals and final lol. i don't understand how ribery gets so much praise on that, while robben was out there destroying teams
As a Bayern fan I 100% agree. Robben was the main man in the champions league. Not only that season but he consistently outperformed Ribery in big occasions
@@Lu149 As a Bayern fan as well I cannot agree on that take. Robben was amazing in the semis and obviously in the final, but we should not forget that he was not an undisputed starter until Kroos' injury in the quarters against Juve. As a matter of fact he was often booed by a lot of our fans for his selfishness and the performances in big games the years before 2013. Until the World Cup 2014 there was not a shadow of a doubt that Ribery was our best player
@@ichmagreis69 you’re crazy, Robben was always an undisputed starter when fit. It was Kroos that wasn’t a guaranteed starter cos Müller played in the 10. Robben was just injury prone but when fit he was the guy to win us games, not Ribéry. Robbens peak is higher than Riberys
You don't know what you're talking about. Robben might have been better of one or two matches, but Ribery was decisive for most of the season in ALL competitions. You saying it's an overrated season proves you don't know shit about ball.
Salah's productivity and output could arguably put him number 1 on this list let alone in table 1. He has put up goal and assist numbers over the last 7-8 years which are more comparable with the likes of Messi, CR7, Suarez, Lewa etc than anyone else on this tier list (except Neymar & Mbappe).
Exactly. There is a better argument for Salah being 1st on the entire list than him being in Table 2. Also, people talk about his output but forget that he was playing like Messi at times in the second half of the 17-18 season and first half of the 21-22 season. Salah in October 2021 was literally like Messi, it was insane.
Your rating of Pedro is very lacking. You summarized him as a player who has done much, but was never the main guy while having a decent season in the prem at some point in his career. It's insulting and shows a lack of knowledge that you spend mention his PL accomplishments more than his La Liga accomplishments. Pedro was a huge big game player with huge contributions in meaningful moments (CL Final vs Man United, La Liga Classico's,European Supercups,Club World Cup and so many other games). He was the first player ever to score in all six competitions that he played in one season. He was part of both of Barcelona's trebles. He's scored the fastest hat-trick for Barcelona in 9 minutes. He should be top of Table 3.
I am a Barcelona fan and even I think his placement is completely fair. He played in the best club side in football history of course he is going to perform well. His longevity is terrible as he basically had like 4 great years only and he was not putting out performances like the other players on that table.
I have a crazy hot take some actually might agree. For me, Salah is a better player then Bale was. He just got Liverpool on his back since he joined for most of the seasons he does have some support ofc but mainly he's the man. Can't say the same about Bale for Madrid since he's probably not in the top 3 most important players for Madrid while he was there
Thank you. Bale is honestly overrated. Great player of course, but people never bring up how inconsistent and injury prone he was. Sure, he scored crucial goals in finals, but that was after Ronaldo and his other teammates dragged him to those finals while he barely had an impact leading up to it. It’s like saying Origi was one of Liverpool’s best players in 18-19 because he scored 2 vs Barcelona in the UCL semi final and then 1 in the UCL final. And everyone forgets that Bale complained about not being respected and playing enough in 17-18 only for Ronaldo to leave instead of him and then he completely flopped in 18-19 when he was meant to be the main man. Meanwhile Salah has gone from strength to strength since Mané and Firmino left. He’s had to take an increased role as a creator which he’s done brilliantly while also still maintaining his scoring rate. I think once Salah’s career is over he’ll start getting more respect.
@@LBJ-s9nhazard top tier 3 honestly.once he was put in a good team liek real madrid he couldn't hang. People say it's injuries etc but I'm not to sure.hazard honeslty is closer to reus
You have no consistency with your criteria brother lol. How does Vini not get marked down for being awful at an international level when other players do? Vini in the same tier as Salah is insulting at this stage in his career icl
Because Vini's club career and peak rivals and even outdoes most of the guys in tier 2, how many of them can say they put up a 3 season run of performances for club level like Vini? Also, I agree his international career isn't up to par but remember the guy is 24 and has many tournaments ahead he has time to turn it around.
Salah is clear of the table 2, please put the Algerian agenda aside, what he has done in the prem, country and UCL cannot be ignored, arguably the greatest prem winger of all time (him or Ronaldo)
Salah is no way near the level of the other players in Tier 1. Him and Hazard are debatable, which is usually down to preference but the other 4 are light years ahead of Salah 🤣 talent wise and accomplishments. Figo should be ahead of both Hazard and Salah
Salah is the most underappreciated footballer of all time. Hazard was a lovely player but not even close to Salah as far as a footballing icon. Insanity.
There are very few picks on any of these lists I disagree with, but a lot of them are Madrid players and i suspect that will be the case for Varane as well. I get that winning so many CLs is impressive, but Bale is not better than any of Hazard, Ribery, Salah or Robben. I also think Di Maria is too high, I don't understand how you could rank him above Figo. You call him the best 2nd guy, but fact is that at the best teams he wasn't even the 2nd guy other than maybe at Argentina. At Madrid it was BBC, not BBCD. At PSG he was always the third guy at best behind Mbappe and Neymar. He's a really good player, but table 3 IMO.
I think people should start holding Vini accountable for Brazil as well, cause he's a weird one, you could put him high and people would agree, you could put him low and people would also agree. He's similar to Foden but Foden gets a lot more criticism cause he doesn't play for Madrid.
To me I just think Neymar is better than Dinho and it’s not close. Ney is a better goal scorer, passer, playmaker, creator,dribbler, more two footed, better vision, he’s as complete as it gets. Neymar has better numbers at Club and International level than Dinho. He’s carried some sorry ass Brazil squads so deep into international competitions until he gets injured and the team crumbles. Dinho has a bigger cultural impact since everyone adored how he played with a smile, and he looked flashier with his skills and he’s a magnificent player, but I don’t think that’s enough to argue what Neymar has done. Keep in mind, this is without us having seen Neymar at his “best”, scary to think about the player we missed out on.
Facts, Neymar is comfortably better and more skilled than Dinho ever was most people base how good Dinho was on highlights, even at that Neymar has a far more impressive highlight reel. Better dribbler, 3× the end product , better goalscorer AND playmaker. The perception of Neymar is seriously skewed by the lies the media's spewing on his name. Neymar's game was also on a higher level closest to Messi's imo, he was elite in EVERY aspect of the game. You could give him more complex roles and tasks than Dinho and he'd do them with ease: shadow striker, 10/playmaker, 8/tempo setter heck even LWB which he played in Barca's 3-5-2 in last season there. Neymar's excelled in all these roles. Then there's the objective fact that Neymar peaked higher(17/18) AND REMAINED at that peak longer(prime) Neymar has 10-12 world class seasons(the most bar Messi, CR7 and Xavi), 8 calendar years with atleast 50G+A the most of anyone this century bar Messi and CR7. They'll say he "never hit his full potential and wasted his talent" like they have an accurate depiction of what he'd be like if did, that narrative never made sense to me. Neymar's the only player who gets insistently critized for not being one of the 3 greatest ever, they act like the dude isn't an alltimer better than all off the other guys they uncritically laud: Dinho, Salah, Iniesta, Modric, Suarez, Kaka, Muller, Neuer e.t.c It's frankly insane🤣🤣
Firstly, it is ignorant to compare numbers of a guy in the early to mid 2000s to a guy priming in the era with inflated stats (mid 2010s onwards). So Dinho would have way better numbers tody. Secondly, Dinho was not a worse passer, playmaker or dribbler. I get it Neymar is elite in all those categories BUT Ronaldinho was also elite and better in some. Simple as that. And there is NO argument suggesting otherwise IF you have watched him play. And no, you can not judge those things solely based on stats being counted 10+ apart from each other.
There’s no question hazard had another level in him. He’s admitted he didn’t work as hard as he could have, alot of his teammates say he was a lazy trainer. What a phenomenal player to watch but his shortcomings are all his own fault
Vini is not better than Mane. Just putting Mane's entire career to 2 seasons at Liverpool is absurd as well. He was amazing in 16/17 and 17/18 and second half of 21/22 when he moved to CF after they signed Luis Diaz. The only he season he was below par was the Covid season 20/21 where he lost his pace and battled long covid.
As a Barca fan growing up no player cared me more in the early-mid 2010’s than di Maria his work rate off the ball was also insane and his longevity has been insane too!
Becks was 100% robbed of the Ballon'dor that treble season was incredible. Before you come at me i am not saying hes better than Rivaldo but that season he was the best player. United went ahead of barca in the group of death and becks scores a brilliant goal in the 3-3 draw if united lose that game theyre out of UCL Everyone remembers 99 fa cup final giggs winner and the hairy chest but it was Beckham that opened the scoring. Everyone remembers roy keane header against prime zizou juve but it was beckhams cross Eveeryone remembers sheringham ans solsjkaer in the finals but it was beckhams pin perfect delivery that cause so much distress. Remember whole world watching 90th min the pressure ans he delivers CORNERS LIKE THAT!? People forget but i am old enough to remember. He was a stamina machine at united who cleared the Beep test.
Rivaldo is so underrated, it's crazy. He was far better than Beckham that season and had a 50 g+a season in Spain with many crazy goals and assists. Then went to Copa America and was the best player, scoring in the quarters, semis and twice in the final. Even in the CL, he dominated United and scored a bicycle kick, but he was unlucky to play for a mid Barcelona team. Rivaldo should be remembered as a Top 20 player of all time, yet all he gets is disrespect. Beckham is a fucking nobody compared to Rivaldo.
@@wise4833 he finished as the best player in a world cup and copa america, who is beckham against that? Beckham is good, but is a shit against Rivaldo.
I don't think comparing G/A for a cam borderline striker to a RM is fair Rivaldo had more G/A's it's true I think like 48 and Beckham only had 30 but his game that year was so clutch and his defensive work was unbelievable. I didn't say Becks was better player I just feel that year was really special from him.
Hazard over Robben, Ribery, Figo and Salah is plain stupid tbh. I understand this is YOUR list, but You really went for personal preference on that selection. Don't become an Eye test merchant bro 😂.. Stats, longevity, trophies won and big game moments are just as important as eye test and hazard is low on all of these other categories.
If you use longevity argument against hazard you can do the same for Neymar same for bale also hazard has better stats than Figo and ribery. Also Figo has never scored in a final
What on earth did Hazard do to deserve being top 5 on this list? Won 1 ucl to which he contributed absolutely nada, only scored more than 15 goals in a league campaign once, never won a golden boot or any major personal accolade apart from 1 POTY. Stats wise he isn’t even on par with Mane and Sterling, let alone Salah
To be fair Hazard did win the playmaker award in 18-19, but yeah I also wouldn’t have Hazard in tier 1 either. His disastrous 15-16 season and his entire time at Real Madrid pretty much ruined any chance of him being tier 1.
The only one I really disagree with is the placement of son because reus is one tier below him but if you really look at it reus and son have nearly identical careers for dortmund and spurs because they consistently got 20 g/a season and also reus in the CL he was better than son. both didn’t win anything really and both went to the CL final as biggest career achievement, stayed loyal to two clubs who both bottled it, if anything reus won some cups at dortmund. I think lyes is a giving a little bit too much PL bias. I don’t see a single reason why son should be table 3 and be above reus so for me son needs to go down a level but the list is very balanced and valid
Tbf, when you look at the rankings, there's only a spot between Son and Rues so they are close. I definitely think Reus peaked higher but a few cases you could argue he's below is that he was pretty injury prone, especially compared to Son who was very durable for Spurs. And internationally, Son has a much bigger impact for Korea than he does for Germany (mainly bcuz he missed most tournaments due to injury). But for most of the list, I can't complain.
Bro Ronaldinho's prime is on par with the greatest prime's in football history which are Maradona and Messi. Only player who reached those skies, definetely better than CR7 and Neymar, and I don't mention Pele as I haven't watched him.
Coming back to this, I genuinely have no major problems with his besides Bale. Should be below Hazard/Robben/Salah. You get distracted by his moments. He only really had 3 great league campaigns while the rest have had more. His Wales display was mostly at ST, not as a winger, and he was washed by 2016. Remember watching and Ramsay was the better player for Wales. The big free kicks and bicycle kicks often gloss over how many good performances he had post 2016, he really had a 5 year impressive prime, while the others have much longer peaks
@@dubialexander9802 He wasnt great in 17-18. I'll give him 4 seasons, still such a small sample size vs all the players I mentioned. Overrated moments player
@@RPCentral7 21 goals and 7 assists in 39 games for the 2017-18 season. And bale was one of the best players in the prem for 3 seasons. Including his 2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16, and 2016-17 (when he was fit), 2017-18, that's 8 seasons in total.
Eden Hazard Overrated 2014/15 Debunked: 1. Intro I’m not disputing that Eden Hazard didn’t deserve the PFA player of the year because I still think he was the best player in the best team that year which imo is the best criteria for an award like this (Unlike Ballon D’or might I add). But this Chelsea team was stacked being led by “the Special One” this team was anchored by a the best defense in the league with only 32 goals allowed. They did not have the best GD and they had a lot of draws as week (9). My point being that the accomplishements of Chelsea in 2015 was not from any carry job but from a masterful team effort from Captain John Terry to striker Diego Costa to the manager Jose Mourinho. 2. No Statistical Dominance: A. In 2014-25 Hazard had his 2nd best statistical season posting 14 goals and 9 assists in the PL. Ofc these are good numbers, especially in hindsight but in the moment these never blew me away. This is ofc the era of Messi and Ronaldo scoring 40+ league goals a season, CR7 a LW, and Hazard is barely posting 30 G/As all comps. B. Though Hazard was a fantastic dribbler and had the most successful dribbles in the PL in 2015, he was still behind the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, and Robbern across the Big 5 leagues and fun fact he has less successful dribbles and at a lower success rate than the year before. B. Then there was this kid named Neymar Jr… who is only a year younger then Hazard and burst onto the season around similar times in their farmer leagues and major clubs. The whole world knew who was better. Neymar had 22 league goals and 9 assists. Double-digit goals in the CL was arguably the best player in the tournament as they went on to win the treble. He is literally a better version of Haard at everything. More effective dribbling, more skill, better finishing, better touch, better technique, faster, stronger, everything. C. There were a number of other PL legends with great statistics and imo would have ran away with the PFA POTY if they had won the league. Not only do I think they had as good of seasons as Hazard in 2015 but I also think they are GREATER players all time wise -Sergio Aguero: 26 goals, 8 assists. He was averaging 1.21 G/As a game. That was literally better then Ronaldo that year. - -David Silva: 12 goals, 7 assists. I mean if he wasn’t the best midfielder in the PL to you then it had to be Fabregas -Harry Kane: Breakout season with 21 goals -Di Maria: In a FLOP season, being played at LW, CAM, ST, and more, Angel still had more assists (10) and .5 G/As a game to Hazard’s .6 -Alexis Sanchez 16 goals and 8 assists and 2nd best dribbler in the league. I would like to argue that Sanchez was not only AS good as Hazard in his prime… but that he had a BETTER 2014-15 season then him… For one Sanchez has 37 G/As in 52 games compared to Hazard’s 31 in the same amount. Both were unlikely losing to away goals in the CL I will say but what Sanchez did with Chile was unreal. Sanchez as Chile’s star player led them to their first Copa America victory ever over an Argentian side boasting Messi, Aguero, Di Maria, Mascherano, Higuain, Tevez, Otamendi, Rojo, Zabaleta, Garay, Romero, Lavezzi, Lamela, Biglia, and Banega…. and then he did it AGAIN the next year! And similar to Hazard 2015 wasn;t even Sanchez’s best season at Arsenal, in 2016 he was hurt, and in 2017 he had FOURTY-SEVEN G/As in 51 games. I mean Hazard’s best season in 2019 was 38 G/As in 52 games, and he was playing in Europa League, and Sanchez was in the CL. Sanchez also has 20 trophies to Hazard’s 15 (more like 9 if you don’t include all the Real Madrid ones that he didn’t contribute to. 4. Belgium’s Golden Generation: -Hazard has never ever ever been a better player or more impactful player then KDB for club or country. Even by 2015 Hazard was supposed already a wonderkid, and bursting into his prime… That same year KDB EXPLODED into world football with an all-time performance establishing himself as one of the best players the world. -16 goals and 28 assists all comps. The most assists in all of Europe. That was 5 goals and 5 assists in 11 Europa League games and won Wolfsburg’s FIRST and ONLY DFB Pokal. I mean KDB played there for two seasons and is a bigger Wolfsburg and Bundesliga legend then Hazard at Lille in Ligue 1. 5. Summary: I do respect Hazard I really do. He was worldclass and is an PL legend. But for one being an PL legend is overrated when the PL has only been the best league in the world for less then a decade. (Historically it was once Germany and then Italy and has been Spain for most of the 21st century). And Hazard is frankly a closer player all time to Sadio Mane then he was to Mo Salah much less Neymar Jr. I have an All-Time Modern Football Ranking. This ranks every player starting in 1992. I still believe Hazard is a top 100 Modern Footbaler ever: 81. Sanchez 82. HAZARD 83. Courtois But we’ll see far down he slides as imo Haaland has already surpassed him after his recordbreaking treble winning season.
You lost me at saying De Bruyne was better for Belgium ngl. Also think Hazard was a better dribbler than Neymar. Neymar was a skillful unpredictable dribbler where as Hazard was powerful and direct
@@RPCentral7What?? Neymar has averaged 4.2 succesful dribbles per 90 behind Messi's 4.3. He also has the most games with more than 10+ succesful dribbles. He's comfortably a better dribbler than Hazard
Love the Eden respect that one injury from Thomas Meunier (if you know you know) is what stopped him properly cooking at Madrid but regardless as a footballer he’s clear of Salah in terms of on the ball ability
What has Mbappe done to be considered in the top tier? Is he even a winger to begin with? Also, Salah should be in the first, the guy will forever be a victim of his nationality. There is no way Hazard matches up to him for 2 peak seasons vs 8 years ongoing peak and Salah being objectively a better footballer on every metric.
Unfortunately National team matters. So Salah who doesn't even have an African Cup should not be compared to one of the best players in world cup history.
This narrative that Hazard only did it for 2 seasons is absolutely ridiculous and only exists because he had that one poor season in between. Apart from that he was always Chelsea’s main guy, and before Chelsea was the best player in France where he won the league with LILLE. Also just because they played the same position (yes I know one right one left) doesn’t mean their roles were the same. Salah plays far more advanced where the false nine (Firmino) would drop deep to allow the wingers to run in behind. Hazard would orchestrate play from a much deeper position. Hazard is a better playmaker and dribbler than Salah I can’t believe that’s even debatable.
@@Hamzathefirst Unfortunately, Mbappe did score 50 Champions league goals at the age of 25 and Salah only has 49. Sadly, big moments matter in football too. Mbappe's world cup campaigns so far has been very big, he won the world cup, and world cup golden boot. Salah will never have something like that.
Give mbappe time this season. Once he stops feeling the pressure and goes back to his position at LW, he’ll be the best player on the planet again like he’s been since 2021 until this yr
Mbappés 'worst season', was his best in terms of productivity. He wins a domestic treble with PSG, & wins European Golden Shoe with Kane. A lot of people look at Vinicius as the main player at UCL, but Mbappé & Kane were the standout players last season, & had a bigger impact on the UCL than Vini.
Great list, could add Podolski, Kuyt, Maxi Rodriguez, Wiltord, Błaszczykowski and Walcott, instead of Arshavin, Duff, Kalou, Nasri, Vicente, all good players but underachieving or undeserving to be on this kind of list
Sterling over Sanchez is absolutely atrocious. You talk about peak, Sterling can’t lace Sanchez boots, he was one of the best player in the Prem only second to Hazard and what he did for Chile… he was the MAIN man. Sterling was a side piece. I mean they literally played in the league at the same time and not a single soul would pick Sterling over Sanchez
Im sorry but Ronaldinho clears. World Cup Winner + Balón D’Or is no joke. There might be an argument but dinho clears. Everything Neymar could do Dinho could do plus he didn’t have the Luxury of playing alongside juggernaut Messi and Suarez at their peak yet he won everything there is to win with a smile. He is the only player ever to have won a World Cup, a Copa América, a Confederations Cup, a Champions League, a Copa Libertadores and a Ballon d'Or. Nothing tops that I’m sorry. Btw let’s not act like Neymar had crazy longevity. Neymar is like 13/14-18/19. 5-6 years max. Ronaldinho was from 01/02-05/06. 5-6 years too. If we compare those two spans for both player you have your pick.
On an individual level, I personally think there are a few aspects in neymar's game that dinho slightly lacked...Ronaldinho however was a more headache to opposition defense, more pace more power
Neymar was one of the best players in the world at santos… top 10 in ballon dor from Brazil Copa libertadores to santos since pele days… do your research
What?? Neymar has been world class since 2010 and lost that tag in 2023 that's 11-13 world class seasons give or take. As an individual Neymar is the better playmaker and goalscorer, was just as aesthetic and had 2× the end product of Dinho. As a footballer it's Neymar, who had the better career however? Dinho
Salah could do everything hazard has ever done, while staying consistent with longevity, and pulling crazy numbers. It's no brainer bro, Salah is better than Hazard.
@@obed89601) salah cannot do what hazard can do( progressing the ball from the deep almost like a midfielder consistently) 2) why are we acting like hazard doesn't have longevity(ligue 1 player of the year carried lille to the title) 3)always played in better teams than hazard once in his prime in Liverpool and even then hazard was still considered the best player in the league up until 2018 after that it was kdb So yes a no brainer hazard>> salag
Salah has done nothing special at international stage. I am not even asking for a win but not performing in afcon is bad. hazard was the best player in the euro and wc
Salah fanboys gonna flood the comments lol. Good list. I personally have Ronaldinho over Neymar, and I'd also have Ribery in Table 1, but other than that, I don't have too many problems with it.
I’m a Bayern fan… and Ribéry was not better than Robben. He was consistently great but in the big games the main man was Robben… also Robben was way better for his country. If anything Robben is table 1.
I'm brazilian and I agree with you. Even though R10 was pure magic, and was Ballon D'or twice and also World Cup Champion, he had way better team mates on the national team that allowed him to be World Cup champion, like Ronaldo, Rivaldo, etc. Neymar on the other hand, was unfortunate to have played on the same generation as CR7 and Messi, that's why he never got his Ballon Dor.
Always remember it’s just a game of opinions my people!
centerbacks next?🫣
Centrebacks and Keepers list as well!!
Fullbacks
NO. And Block the guy that asked for keepers.
Link to tier lists if possible?
If you do too keepers then you make a 25 man list
Salah is so under appreciated. The guy has been absolutely unbelievable since he joined Liverpool.
Internationally a flop
He's taken Egypt to a AFCON final what??
@@andrewwehbe7822still a flop
He has an agenda against salah, Algerian
He's not underappreciated at all. Everyone knows how brilliant and prolific he is.
I wish I could see Salah’s rep in a world where he was Brazilian
Tbh brazil has been so shit in salah’s prime, but I would kill to see prime neymar and prime salah in the same team.
It’s ridiculous you can’t judge players by international level because you can’t choose where you’re born so we have to look at club football and he’s won everything. With a golden boot. IMO he’s table 1
@@JermaineWilliams-t7j shut up, international matters a lot. Even if you were born in a ass country, you can lead them to sucess of their own standards(ex. Bale leading wales to their first WC in 60+ years
I think Salah mistake is being in premier league. It just isn't as looked up as la liga
@@wingedhussar1453nah that's not true. Hazards greatest runs were all in the Premier League & he's being glazed as one of the greatest wingers in the world lol
Salah is closer to Henry than hazard is to Salah. Salah is a modern time great stop glazing hazard
Close to henry stfu Henry is considered one ot the best players in his gen. Mo is closer to mane then Henry
@@therealhb1763sorry ... Salah is very close to Thierry and he would tell you the same
@@Honest_LFC_Fan_YNWA🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣 close to Henry 🤦🏿♂️ these men have lost their marbles
@@mo2k638 what's so funny huh? 0 ball knowledge
As a german I can tell you that the whole country would be fuming if they saw someone claiming Sane is better than Reus. Even the biggest Bayern or Schalke fan would admit that Reus is like 10 times the player Sane ever was.
Hab mich gefragt was Sané und Gnabry da überhaupt machen 😭
So true. Reus was magical player during his prime. Much more intelligent and complete than most wingers. Was a joy to watch.
He's easily table 3.
@@markuse4620 ja hat ihn in keinem der Rankings gelistet. Ich meine aber Spieler wie Del Pierro oder Dybala sind auch in keinem Ranking gewesen. Ist halt iwie schwer solche Spieler einer der Kategorien zuzuordnen, irgendwas zwischen Mittelfeldspieler und Stürmer halt
Reus ist das überbewerteste was der deutsche Fußball je hervorgebracht hat, overrated af in Deutschland
Reus & Mertens are easily Table 3. Idk how he put Quaresma & Arshavin table 6, but puts Sane & Nasri table 4 lol
Hazard ahead of Robben and Salah is nasty work
Hazard was a cheat code
Why
@Yamamashouse247who are you to say what matters and what doesn’t? I could say the same for Salah at Chelsea. And for Egypt. What’s your point? Hazard won two PLs carrying the team. Does that not matter? He was the greatest ever player for Lille as a teenager, winning them a domestic double at 20. Does that not matter? Better not preach here with your nonsense.
@@timchan007 Salah was better mate.
@@siberianTiger639 thats some good reasoning. dude gave a whole paragraph and thats all you say. Ig hazard's better
Salah has like a 70 G/A against the top 6 and surpassed Aguero in G/A
His record is great but was he usually the top 2 performer for his team in those games? I would say more than half of those games he wasn't
@@mark-kq7rc that argument makes zero sense
He hasnt surpassed Aguero in the PL
Aguero clear bro
@@FlifeSworld Salah is getting Aguero numbers from the wing
Need the CB tier list next 🔥🔥
He won't don't it 😅😅
The Salah disrespect is unreal. Pick a all time PL 11 and he walks into the RW(F) spot. All this nonsense that he is just a numbers guys is pretty desperate. Why is him having similar numbers to Henry a bad thing? Why is the PL's leading CL goalscorer a bad thing? Salah V Hazard should not even be a debate.
I think it's a perfect debate, 4 me hazard was the best player in the prem during his time and salah is the best pl player rn
Tbh once Salah leaves is when this guys will finally clock how good he was
@raihankhan2922 salah is not even better than kdb while kdb was here salah was ridiculous in 2018 since then he hasn't been the the PL player, kane, kdb and rosri lately have been better
@@mark-kq7rc it is also a myth that Hazard was the best player during his years at Chelsea. He had seasons where Suarez, Yaya, Sanchez, Mahrez, Vardy, Salah, KDB all outperformed him. We all can play this game.
@6TimesBaby yes hazard was,
Salah only year was 2018, after that he's was not even liverpool top 3 players lol. Van dikj, mane, Henderson, trent was better in all of those years
marco reus deserves being at the top of table 3, his peak was something to see man
Facts. It's nasty work how he glazes Hazard for what he's done in the Premier League, but won't give that same energy to Mertens & Reus who easily would sit Table 3
Salah is above hazard. If Madrid went okay for hazard it’s a different story. But salahs consistency makes him table 1 comfortably.
Yeah but if your rate a player just by his g/a you have a very sad view of football
@@osas5883 it’s not based on G/A. Sarah has never had a bad year for Liverpool. Hazard sacked off a whole season for Chelsea and then was a huge flop at Madrid. Nothing to do with numbers.
@@parksy1017well you forgot they had careers before 2017. Salah was literally warming the bench at Chelsea at some point. So your point doesn’t make sense.
@@timchan007 forgot his stint of 2 seasons at roma? Watch highlights and check stats ...
@@osas5883 goals and assists impact games . If you want to judge by aesthetics , then the tier list should be Most Skillful wingers not Best wingers .
Salah lacks moments but Hazard best moments are in the Efl cup whilst Salah are in the UCL?
Who took their country to their first WC in 30 years?
Salah has 36 more goal contributions in the UCL than Hazard.
Origi has more ucl knockout goals in a span of 2 games than hazard has his whole life.
Fraudulent list.
Nah I have to say internationally they are both lacking a bit even tho hazard had that crazy 2018 WC. One couldn’t win the afcon with the “best” afcon nation and the other had no international accolades with the golden generation of Belgium.
He’s just biased asf
You sound hurt man😂😂
Make your own list and then put salah wherever you want. You don’t have to agree it’s fine. These are just opinions
@@Hamzathefirst Ok Hamza
We get it, you are a Liverpool fan that is hurt. It hurts even more that it is Chelsea's player who Salah is compared to. However, Salah deserves more respect in my opinion. I remember he started that game in April 2014 and even got booked. His celebrations after Demba Ba goal were joyful and sincere. Big up to Chelsea legend Mo Salah!
I’m going to make a longer post about Figo because I don’t think people quite understand who this guy was (maybe an age thing).
Individual Club:
Ballon d’or winner in 2000 (5th in 99, 6th in 01). The ballon d’or win was in Zizou’s iconic Euros 2000 year, that’s how good Figo was.
FIFA World Player of the year in 2001 (6th in 99, 2nd in 2000)
3x La Liga foreign PotY (99-01)
Best player in primeira (1994)
2x leading assister in La Liga
1x CL top assister
Inter PotY - 2006
Portuguese footballer of the year every year from 1995-2000
There are more but these are the top level.
Individual International:
World Cup all star team - 2006
Euros Team of the Tournament - 2000, 2004
FIFA 100 list (flawed though it is)
Major Club Success:
4x La Liga Titles (2 Barca, 2 RM)
1x Champions League (RM)
4x Serie A Titles (Inter)
International:
Euros Final with Portugal
Objectively, Luis Figo was a top 3-5 player in world football from 1999-2001 and probably top 10 in the couple of surrounding seasons. This was a time when you had Zizou, Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Shevchenko, Raul, Totti, early Thierry Henry and tons of other insane players. How many other players on this list can claim to be arguably the best player in the world and top 3-5 for a 3 year stretch? I would argue only Ronaldinho, Neymar, and maybe Mbappe.
On top of that, he has a better international career and as much or more team success at the highest level than most names in tier 1.
I just cannot see how he’s not tier 1, and to be honest, the higher end of tier 1 at that. Realistically, you cannot have a guy like Hazard above Figo, I don’t think it’s even close.
crazy that I have to scroll so long to see this comment. It's purely an age thing man. Only a handful of players from each generation will be held as some sort of mythical figure that still appears on top of these lists, the rest will just be forgetten. Figo's club career was arguably better than Zidane's, that's all you have to know. For me he is no.2 after Ronaldinho or Neymar.
@@ScheppundFries Absolutely. Crazy how guys the calibre of Figo and Rivaldo are being lost a bit to history. These were best player in the world level guys.
Also, Hazard seems to be as high as he is based on his technical brilliance and match winning capabilities. Figo was easily as technically gifted and a match winner in his own right.
I agree with your take. I personally do have Neymar marginally over Figo, but it’s close and you certainly wouldn’t see a strong argument from me on this topic. I’ve kind of changed this stance very recently. He’s an absolute no brainer tier 1. Top 3 of these guys for sure.
@@AlexBrown-xp7mt It's also a thing about the audience. This channel is an English speaking channel and has many young viewers from countries, which are not as developed in football culture than the traditional powerhouses. Ask anyone in Germany/Spain/Italy/South America, and no one in their mind would rank Hazard above Figo, even the younger ones. Heck, I live in Germany, and most people would put Reus above Hazard here.
@@ScheppundFries yeah that’s fair enough. I’m English myself so like to think I manage that bias pretty well. Hazard was exceptional at Chelsea for sure, but the prem was kind of in a weaker period during his peak as well.
I do think he was the best player in the prem in 2015, surrounding seasons probably in and around that top 3-5 level, but Figo was in the discussion for best player on the planet for 3 years. Big difference. Hazard for me was never in that convo, probably even if you put Messi and Ronaldo to the side, still not.
@@AlexBrown-xp7mt Figo is just a level above Hazard, facts.
I feel like cams values aesthetics too much. I saw a list where he said Saka has done well to even be in a tier with Joao Felix similar to what he said with Salah. The game is about impacting games and delivering for your team to help them win. It’s fair to put hazard above Salah but to say he’s lucky to be on the table just cause of aesthetics is crazy. If you watch a 90 minute game, Salah is a constant threat and usually the most dangerous player, I don’t get why he’s judged differently.
shows a lack of understanding of the game. this guy would look at players from the 80s and before and call them all trash because their foot work wasn't as aesthetic.
its like judging a striker on the aesthetics of their finishing technique, or comparing passes by how good a player looks while playing them.
@@luca17653 the small cameo from Cam confirmed he doesn’t know ball anywhere near like Lyes
@dragndorf9 Facts, if Haaland was judged by aesthethics, he'd be a low ranked striker.
If you’re making a list based on how ‘great’ a player is, then sure.
If it’s a ‘best player’ list. Aesthetics/technical ability matters the most. Output also matters here, but not as much.
@@LiamPowelluuu2Again, in terms of greatness, haaland has a great resume so far and is one of the best strikers of this generation. But based on his technical ability as a footballer, He’s nowhere near RVP for example.
Salah deserves more respect in my opinion. I remember he started that game in April 2014 and even got booked. His celebrations after Demba Ba goal were joyful and sincere. What a talent he was back then. Big up to Chelsea legend Mo Salah! 😆
Generational run of tier lists from Lyes
His missing Lukas Podolski
agreed
Insigne is so underrated. Hazard gets table 1 even though most of what he did was in the prem only. Insigne was absolutely insane in Serie A but gets no flowers for that. From 2015 to 2022 he has like 150 G/A in Serie A. He scored 18 goals in 16/17 and 19 goals 20/21. And was a great dribbler and great passer on top of that. For me easily table 4.
Edit: I just now saw the Part where Cams comes in slanders Insigne even more. Insane idk what you are smoking to think he belongs into table 6. Insigne below Nani and especially Nasri is insane to me tbh.
Agreed I was surprised how easily he was dismissed. If he played at a bigger club with more eyeballs he would be respected way more. Easily table 4 arguable table 3
@@russellmorgan7624 exactly my opinion as well. Just because he stayed loyal to Napoli and picked the worst possible time to leave them he could not win any trophies. Still a baller could have easily featured in any top teams starting 11.
Won the euros too
Nasri so mid
Hazard isn't table 1
Love the fact that you stuck with Vini at table 2. There are very few players in recent history who had the consistency and perfomances (especially in big games) he had over the last 3 season. If he had an international career to match he legit could've put up an all timer 3 year stretch.
he was inconsistent in liga
@@akarshakz3922 brother he hit double digit goals and assists (separately) I each season besides the last one where he 15 goals and 6 assists but played only 26 games due to injury.
He was Madrid's second best player in the league behind Jude last season, who's also a Ballon d'Or candidate and the second best player in La Liga behind Benzema 2 years back when he won the Ballon d'Or. What are you talking about
@@akarshakz3922lies
5 international goals for ballon d'or ahhahahah game fell off
@@nicemachu Football did falloff but even in that context he's still good enough for table 2.
Let’s get one thing clear here. Figo is the 2nd best winger on this list behind Neymar, an undisputed table 1. He was arguably the best player in the world in club competitions for 3 years - the most monumental statement signing ever made by Fiorentino Perez. He was the most consistent player in the stacked Barcelona and Madrid teams he played in during his prime years. Always carried Portugal on his back. His only flaw was/is PR. Table two and behind Di Maria (who I rate immensely) is rancid stuff.
Yea crazy to think ballondr winner and best player in the world for 2000 2001 isn't in tier 1 .also he carried portugal team for years along with robben they should be tier 1. Hazard is tier 2 flops hard in bigger games.salah also hasn't carried egypt although he's more class then hazard. Salah should be top tier 2 along with hazard behind him.figo and robben tier 1 bottom
Hazard above robben and figo is a crime. Thts pure fanboyism. Hazard flopped hard in real shows he was never that great talent
EH10 is the definition of football. Football these days measured by G/A but he was one of those players who would get you excited every time he was with the ball. Some of those solo goals in PL can't be replicated.
who tf is EH10?
@@Too_mhazard I think
Eeic10Hag my goat
people are acting like hazard is a god, he never put consistent positive games, yes he had really good set of games but i would take a salah who is more impactful in a game or even a bale
@@DeathLol fr... using their logic then pogba is the best midfielder of all time
Atp what else can salah do to be considered better than hazard? It’s ridiculous he’s surpassed him, even hazard said salah is better than me
Hazard also said his brother is better than lol
hazard is also a friend of salah.
Lyes, Fayz and Cams been going crazy on youtube lately!!!
bro that faysal fm series got me dying
Lyes saving the international break with this series🙌
Felt that
Neymar shows that you can combine beauty with effectiveness compared to people on that list
100+ for 3 different clubs
One of the best playmakers in his time in Europe and he looked amazing while doing it
For me he was better than Hazard
it shouldnt even be a debate neymar CLEARS hazard
@@peterdian3349 prem fans(especially chelsea) had people convinced that Hazard was behind Messi and Ronaldo
@@Ed3nborg imo Neymar was behind Messi and Ronaldo, I think if Messi and Ronaldo weren’t born in this world, Neymar would have Atleast 2-3 ballondors while hazard would have 1
Notice how there ALL the players have either aesthetics but nothing to show for it, or something to show for it or lack aesthetics or have aesthetics and something to show it but to an average level. And then there's Neymar who's the most aesthetically pleasing footballer ever and has one of the best end products oat😂.
The guy's an anomaly in EVERY aspect of the game. I'll never understand people who call him overrated or say he isn't a top 3 footballer in his gen. He gets insistently critized for not being one of the 3 greatest ever, they act like the dude isn't an alltime FAR CLEAR of the guys they uncritically laud it's frankly insane😂😂😂. Quite literally a GOAT level talent(up there with Messi) who got nerfed by injuries.
Insane player a top 5 footballer ever idc what anyone says. Ability wise+stats+performances in big games for club and country there aren't 5 better in the history the sport.
@@LBJ-s9n that's the thing
Neymar is the best winger in this generation bar the GOATs.
People have the nerve to say Hazard was better than Neymar😭
Still haven’t forgotten you put SEEDORF in tier 3 for your other midfield vid. That’s criminal!
Figo is one of the most disrespected player based on what he was rated during his playing days and being rated currently. He was rated like zidane R9 during late 90s and early 2000s. I rate giggs ahead of salah but at that time giggs and figo has considered to be in complete different tier
Giggs is not better than Salah
You rate Giggs ahead of Salah? Only logic for that is you must be a United fan.
@ not a united fan. Giggs was left midfielders who was much more complete. Davies type speedster at 90s Beckham type intelligent crossing wide midfielders at early 2000s and scholes type rooming playmaker at late 2000s and 2010s. And I am a Madrid fan
@ronakshrestha5988 More complete than Salah? I'll give him crossing and that's about it lol at no point was Giggs ever in the conversation for best player in the world, unlike Salah who was in late 2022.
@LiamPowelluuu2Salah is better then giggs he's closer to figo. But figo at his time was best player in the world for couple of years and carried teams and portugal to finals
Hazards creation numbers in the UCL are 3rd all time to Neymar and Messi btw.
He wasn’t a 30 goal scorer because he’s wasn’t an inside forward he’s dropping deep. How many defensive managers he played with.
Hes easily table 1 for me. Peak for peak he’s better than bale for me too
Hazard is scoring 20+ league goals every season in Klopp a system btw
Bale's peak edges hazard in aspects hazard wasn't elite in, pace, power, heading, shooting, not to mention bale had more big game moments throughout his career than eden
@@EthicalBallSo you think Klopp is that good
Not only that, he has the most chances created in open play per 90 in the last 10 years!! I agree, he was the focal point of Chelsea build-up phase for years, so to judge him on g/a is criminal. I also think its kinda weird to put Mbappe above him ngl, it's quite obvious he's not, Hazard was dropping insane numbers in Ligue 1 at 18 years old. He was also better then mbappe in wc18, but the france team as a whole was so clear of Belgium.
@@Ricardo33- Did u just say hazard wasn't elite in pace, no chance?
It's crazy how if Hazard went well at Madrid and won a UCL he'd be in all time table 1 winger conversations
But he didn't
@@kunoCS. Thanks for stating the obvious lil bro, I suggest you stay in school
Hypotheticals aren't an interesting thing to talk about because they aren't real.
"It's crazy how if Chris Wood scored 3,000 goals last game he'd be considered the greatest striker ever".
I just did the same thing you did, is that an interesting discussion you'd like to have? Speaking about school, maybe you'd be a smarter person if you weren't day dreaming about football fantasies all day.
Thts why he should be tier 3
I’m enjoying this series so much
Figo was way better than you made him out to be
Young people are just clueless. They don’t do their due diligence and research the legends that came before them.
I agree but he talks about 2000 or later. Figo had his best years 96-03 so many years being during the 90s. For that reason I think it´s fair to have him in tier 2
I’ve seen people question Bale? Forgot trophies, as a footballer Gareth Bale was unplayable in a way the likes of Salah, Hazard etc weren’t. The guy could literally do everything. He was lighting quick, he could dribble, shoot with both feet, he was agile and acrobatic, great in the air, he had power. Prime Bale was the complete package
You're bugging if you don't think Hazard as unplayable at times. Hazard was destroying teams almost single-handedly, as godo as Bale but for longer.
3rd best winger of all time is crazy
@@Al-ji4gd There is a difference between could dribble to being the third best dribbler of a generation.
@@akarshakz3922 Hazard was a better dribbler than Bale, though, so I don't understand your point. Bale had the pace and power, but Ribery and Hazard were the two most technical dribblers on the wing after Ronaldinho and Neymar, so...
@@Al-ji4gd I never said Hazard wasn’t unplayable? Im js talent at their best.. Bale was literally unstoppable in a way Hazard wasn’t. Ive seen both live, Bale in his prime was an absolute freak. Bale was singlehandedly winning games for Wales, a terrible Spurs side and then at the highest level in Madrid. Like cmon bro, Bale is a ridiculous player
The thing a lot of Premier League fans do not grasp is that during the mid 2010s the league itself did not have the status it has today. It was known to be entertaining, because of many teams on a similar level, but the top teams could not compete with the big hitters in Europe. The top players in the league therefore also did not get the recognition outside of England as they do now. You could probably compare Hazard's status in Spain or Germany back then to the one of Raphael Leao nowadays. That's why his ranking will always vary a lot depending on who you are asking
The leao analogy is so spot on both phenomenal footballers with generational ability and profiles yet both well at least leao always seems to be limiting himself
We can say the same for Laliga and any other league, since 2018 an elclassico isnt even a big game anymore. The people who tend to watch it mostly is the fans of Messi and Ronaldo looking for the pleasure they once got. I mean who wakes up in the morning and wants to watch Osasuna vs Valencia? Id rather watch brentford vs Southampton which will be a genuinely entertaining match than any laliga match besides the big 3
Exactly, name one great UCL Prem performer from 2012-2017? Hazard, Aguero, Sanchez, De Gea, Silva etc all were unlucky to have their primes in the PL during that era, they were more than capable of doing what Salah/KDB/Kane etc are doing nowadays
@@RPCentral7We can all play the ‘if’ game . If salah played in Madrid or city he would destroy goal scoring records for fun .
@@abhaysreekanth what Im saying is objectively true
Nah wtf is this Son disrespect placing him below Sterling, Alexis Sanchez, and sterling absolute zero ball knowledge
My Tier List :
TABLE 1 - Ronaldinho, Neymar, Kylian Mbappé, Mohammed Salah, Ángel Di María
TABLE 2 - Luis Figo, Sadio Mané, Arjen Robben, Franck Ribéry, David Beckham, Gareth Bale, Vinicius Jr
TABLE 3 - Marco Reus, Dries Mertens, Eden Hazard, Alexis Sánchez, Ryan Giggs, Heung-Min Son, Riyad Mahrez
TABLE 4 - Robinho, Nani, Salomon Kalou, Andrey Arshavin, Ricardo Quaresma, Serge Gnabry, Robert Pirès
TABLE 5 - Raheem Sterling, Lorenzo Insigne, Leroy Sané, Ezequiel Lavezzi, Ousmane Dembélé, Pedro, Freddie Ljungberg
TABLE 6 - Willian, Florent Malouda, Samir Nasri, Vicente, Joaquín, Damien Duff, Mauro Camoranesi
Centre Backs, Full Backs, Goalkeepers and Managers next, Lyes!
People tend to focus on the age that a player declines but hardly focus on the age that a player ascends. There was no mention of what Hazard did at Lille. Plus the fact that he came to Chelsea at quite a young age, at a time when most players who went to Chelsea at a young age couldn't make it.. especially flare players. Hazard came and made an immediate impact at Chelsea and in the PL. Salah came to Chelsea at a similar age and couldn't break through. He was the best player at the world cup in 2018. So I'm glad you spoke on the first half of Hazards career compared to Salahs. I'm not saying you can't put Salah over Hazard.. you definitely could argue that too.
Griezmann was the best player in the 2018 World Cup it was never hazard
He was not the best player on the 2018 WC wtf
@@olivermatos4889how
@@SASMADBRUV7who was then
@@LoyalFan9383 greizmann easily
Can’t lie I love Lyes but his bias against Liverpool is where he gets let down. His United bias doesn’t even show as much but idk how someone can put salah in table 2 and how you can even think of putting gerrard in table 3 2 vids ago
37:40 Lyes, it's not even an argument. Mane was clearly the better player in 18/19 and 19/20 for Liverpool than Salah. Salah was better than him in every other season but those 2 seasons Liverpool's two best players were Van Dijk and Sadio Mane.
No, Mané was better in 19-20 but Salah was better in 18-19. Don’t forget in the first half of 18-19 when Mané struggled and it was Salah carrying Liverpool. When Liverpool needed to beat Napoli to make it to the UCL knockouts it was Salah who scored and came up clutch while Mané almost got us knocked out by missing 3 big chances.
Overall, great effort Lyes, but I can’t have Figo at 10 😂. Bruh, Figo is top 3
Tier 1: Ronaldinho, Neymar, Figo, Mbappe, Salah
Salah clears mbappgay
@@Honest_LFC_Fan_YNWA Mbappgay 😂 that’s truly horrendous
Bale has to be above Salah
@@oscarrosales2015 how?
@@Honest_LFC_Fan_YNWA Bale is light years ahead of Salah. His career suggest that and talent at their best.. Bale was literally unstoppable in a way Salah wasn’t. He could do everything. Ive seen both live, Bale in his prime was an absolute freak. Bale was singlehandedly winning games for Wales, a terrible Spurs side and then at the highest level in Madrid. Like cmon bro, Bale is a ridiculous player
I don't know what was his worst take. Him saying that Diego Costa was Table 4 or Nasri being Table 4?
Ribery's UCL 12/13 is soooo overrated lol. he was arguably worse than robben in those semi finals and final lol. i don't understand how ribery gets so much praise on that, while robben was out there destroying teams
As a Bayern fan I 100% agree. Robben was the main man in the champions league. Not only that season but he consistently outperformed Ribery in big occasions
@@Lu149 As a Bayern fan as well I cannot agree on that take. Robben was amazing in the semis and obviously in the final, but we should not forget that he was not an undisputed starter until Kroos' injury in the quarters against Juve. As a matter of fact he was often booed by a lot of our fans for his selfishness and the performances in big games the years before 2013. Until the World Cup 2014 there was not a shadow of a doubt that Ribery was our best player
@@ichmagreis69 you’re crazy, Robben was always an undisputed starter when fit. It was Kroos that wasn’t a guaranteed starter cos Müller played in the 10. Robben was just injury prone but when fit he was the guy to win us games, not Ribéry. Robbens peak is higher than Riberys
@@Lu149 Is that why Ribery came closer to winning the Ballond d'Or and Robben never did? Hmmm
You don't know what you're talking about. Robben might have been better of one or two matches, but Ribery was decisive for most of the season in ALL competitions. You saying it's an overrated season proves you don't know shit about ball.
Salah's productivity and output could arguably put him number 1 on this list let alone in table 1. He has put up goal and assist numbers over the last 7-8 years which are more comparable with the likes of Messi, CR7, Suarez, Lewa etc than anyone else on this tier list (except Neymar & Mbappe).
Exactly. There is a better argument for Salah being 1st on the entire list than him being in Table 2.
Also, people talk about his output but forget that he was playing like Messi at times in the second half of the 17-18 season and first half of the 21-22 season. Salah in October 2021 was literally like Messi, it was insane.
Your rating of Pedro is very lacking. You summarized him as a player who has done much, but was never the main guy while having a decent season in the prem at some point in his career. It's insulting and shows a lack of knowledge that you spend mention his PL accomplishments more than his La Liga accomplishments. Pedro was a huge big game player with huge contributions in meaningful moments (CL Final vs Man United, La Liga Classico's,European Supercups,Club World Cup and so many other games). He was the first player ever to score in all six competitions that he played in one season. He was part of both of Barcelona's trebles. He's scored the fastest hat-trick for Barcelona in 9 minutes. He should be top of Table 3.
I am a Barcelona fan and even I think his placement is completely fair. He played in the best club side in football history of course he is going to perform well. His longevity is terrible as he basically had like 4 great years only and he was not putting out performances like the other players on that table.
Mo salah is a 100000 times better than Hazard. He should be t1.
I have a crazy hot take some actually might agree. For me, Salah is a better player then Bale was. He just got Liverpool on his back since he joined for most of the seasons he does have some support ofc but mainly he's the man. Can't say the same about Bale for Madrid since he's probably not in the top 3 most important players for Madrid while he was there
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Thank you. Bale is honestly overrated. Great player of course, but people never bring up how inconsistent and injury prone he was. Sure, he scored crucial goals in finals, but that was after Ronaldo and his other teammates dragged him to those finals while he barely had an impact leading up to it. It’s like saying Origi was one of Liverpool’s best players in 18-19 because he scored 2 vs Barcelona in the UCL semi final and then 1 in the UCL final.
And everyone forgets that Bale complained about not being respected and playing enough in 17-18 only for Ronaldo to leave instead of him and then he completely flopped in 18-19 when he was meant to be the main man.
Meanwhile Salah has gone from strength to strength since Mané and Firmino left. He’s had to take an increased role as a creator which he’s done brilliantly while also still maintaining his scoring rate. I think once Salah’s career is over he’ll start getting more respect.
Is figos 90s play in consideration because if so he’s tier 1. Also Dinho, Robben, ribery and salah over Neymar and hazard
No lol, Neymar is easily tier 1 and 1st place by quite the margin. Hazard tier 2 though
@@LBJ-s9nhazard top tier 3 honestly.once he was put in a good team liek real madrid he couldn't hang. People say it's injuries etc but I'm not to sure.hazard honeslty is closer to reus
@wingedhussar1453 😂😂😂
You have no consistency with your criteria brother lol. How does Vini not get marked down for being awful at an international level when other players do? Vini in the same tier as Salah is insulting at this stage in his career icl
cuz vini big game and especially champions league pedigree trumps all the players below him lmao
@@dapofakorede4791trumps mane chill out man
@@76soyes he trumps mane
Because Vini's club career and peak rivals and even outdoes most of the guys in tier 2, how many of them can say they put up a 3 season run of performances for club level like Vini?
Also, I agree his international career isn't up to par but remember the guy is 24 and has many tournaments ahead he has time to turn it around.
Anti Liverpool agenda by a fatzard fan @@LoyalFan9383
Randomly stumbled on this channel last month,content is amazing
Salah is clear of the table 2, please put the Algerian agenda aside, what he has done in the prem, country and UCL cannot be ignored, arguably the greatest prem winger of all time (him or Ronaldo)
Salah is no way near the level of the other players in Tier 1. Him and Hazard are debatable, which is usually down to preference but the other 4 are light years ahead of Salah 🤣 talent wise and accomplishments. Figo should be ahead of both Hazard and Salah
@@renerowe14715 mbappe? Bale? Haha
@@renerowe14715mbappe and bale light years ahead? God people have lost the plot
@Vrld-ie4uk he’s just a blind Salah hater, he’s been spamming comments everywhere hating on him.
Salah is the most underappreciated footballer of all time. Hazard was a lovely player but not even close to Salah as far as a footballing icon. Insanity.
There are very few picks on any of these lists I disagree with, but a lot of them are Madrid players and i suspect that will be the case for Varane as well. I get that winning so many CLs is impressive, but Bale is not better than any of Hazard, Ribery, Salah or Robben. I also think Di Maria is too high, I don't understand how you could rank him above Figo. You call him the best 2nd guy, but fact is that at the best teams he wasn't even the 2nd guy other than maybe at Argentina. At Madrid it was BBC, not BBCD. At PSG he was always the third guy at best behind Mbappe and Neymar. He's a really good player, but table 3 IMO.
Bale worse than Hazard??🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@LBJ-s9n Absolutely
@@Philipstyrer On what basis?
@@LBJ-s9n I'm not sure what you're asking me.
@@Philipstyrer How is Hazard better than Bale?😂.
Will never tire of Beckham praise talk.
I think people should start holding Vini accountable for Brazil as well, cause he's a weird one, you could put him high and people would agree, you could put him low and people would also agree. He's similar to Foden but Foden gets a lot more criticism cause he doesn't play for Madrid.
People forget Ramsey was better than Bale in 2016. They missed prime Ramsey more in 2022 more than 2016 Bale
To me I just think Neymar is better than Dinho and it’s not close. Ney is a better goal scorer, passer, playmaker, creator,dribbler, more two footed, better vision, he’s as complete as it gets. Neymar has better numbers at Club and International level than Dinho. He’s carried some sorry ass Brazil squads so deep into international competitions until he gets injured and the team crumbles. Dinho has a bigger cultural impact since everyone adored how he played with a smile, and he looked flashier with his skills and he’s a magnificent player, but I don’t think that’s enough to argue what Neymar has done. Keep in mind, this is without us having seen Neymar at his “best”, scary to think about the player we missed out on.
At their very best dinho is more special but overall neymar is better
Facts, Neymar is comfortably better and more skilled than Dinho ever was most people base how good Dinho was on highlights, even at that Neymar has a far more impressive highlight reel. Better dribbler, 3× the end product , better goalscorer AND playmaker. The perception of Neymar is seriously skewed by the lies the media's spewing on his name.
Neymar's game was also on a higher level closest to Messi's imo, he was elite in EVERY aspect of the game. You could give him more complex roles and tasks than Dinho and he'd do them with ease: shadow striker, 10/playmaker, 8/tempo setter heck even LWB which he played in Barca's 3-5-2 in last season there. Neymar's excelled in all these roles. Then there's the objective fact that Neymar peaked higher(17/18) AND REMAINED at that peak longer(prime) Neymar has 10-12 world class seasons(the most bar Messi, CR7 and Xavi), 8 calendar years with atleast 50G+A the most of anyone this century bar Messi and CR7. They'll say he "never hit his full potential and wasted his talent" like they have an accurate depiction of what he'd be like if did, that narrative never made sense to me.
Neymar's the only player who gets insistently critized for not being one of the 3 greatest ever, they act like the dude isn't an alltimer better than all off the other guys they uncritically laud: Dinho, Salah, Iniesta, Modric, Suarez, Kaka, Muller, Neuer e.t.c It's frankly insane🤣🤣
Firstly, it is ignorant to compare numbers of a guy in the early to mid 2000s to a guy priming in the era with inflated stats (mid 2010s onwards). So Dinho would have way better numbers tody.
Secondly, Dinho was not a worse passer, playmaker or dribbler. I get it Neymar is elite in all those categories BUT Ronaldinho was also elite and better in some. Simple as that. And there is NO argument suggesting otherwise IF you have watched him play. And no, you can not judge those things solely based on stats being counted 10+ apart from each other.
Brazil won the Copa America when Neymar got injured.
@advenco344 Weakest Copa run OAT
There’s no question hazard had another level in him. He’s admitted he didn’t work as hard as he could have, alot of his teammates say he was a lazy trainer. What a phenomenal player to watch but his shortcomings are all his own fault
Vini is not better than Mane. Just putting Mane's entire career to 2 seasons at Liverpool is absurd as well. He was amazing in 16/17 and 17/18 and second half of 21/22 when he moved to CF after they signed Luis Diaz. The only he season he was below par was the Covid season 20/21 where he lost his pace and battled long covid.
As a Barca fan growing up no player cared me more in the early-mid 2010’s than di Maria his work rate off the ball was also insane and his longevity has been insane too!
Becks was 100% robbed of the Ballon'dor that treble season was incredible.
Before you come at me i am not saying hes better than Rivaldo but that season he was the best player.
United went ahead of barca in the group of death and becks scores a brilliant goal in the 3-3 draw if united lose that game theyre out of UCL
Everyone remembers 99 fa cup final giggs winner and the hairy chest but it was Beckham that opened the scoring.
Everyone remembers roy keane header against prime zizou juve but it was beckhams cross
Eveeryone remembers sheringham ans solsjkaer in the finals but it was beckhams pin perfect delivery that cause so much distress. Remember whole world watching 90th min the pressure ans he delivers CORNERS LIKE THAT!?
People forget but i am old enough to remember. He was a stamina machine at united who cleared the Beep test.
Rivaldo is so underrated, it's crazy. He was far better than Beckham that season and had a 50 g+a season in Spain with many crazy goals and assists. Then went to Copa America and was the best player, scoring in the quarters, semis and twice in the final. Even in the CL, he dominated United and scored a bicycle kick, but he was unlucky to play for a mid Barcelona team. Rivaldo should be remembered as a Top 20 player of all time, yet all he gets is disrespect. Beckham is a fucking nobody compared to Rivaldo.
@@wise4833 he finished as the best player in a world cup and copa america, who is beckham against that? Beckham is good, but is a shit against Rivaldo.
I don't think comparing G/A for a cam borderline striker to a RM is fair
Rivaldo had more G/A's it's true I think like 48 and Beckham only had 30 but his game that year was so clutch and his defensive work was unbelievable. I didn't say Becks was better player I just feel that year was really special from him.
I love these type of videos, keep going man
Salah tier 2 is a crime lmao
I agree he should be a tier below
Hating for no reason... Maybe he owned your club unless you're a refrid fan😂😂@@LoyalFan9383
way too high
@@zyzio8465 I believe he owned your club that's why
@@LoyalFan9383 easily top 3 of tier 1 ... Only behind Ronaldinho and arguably Neymar
Salah MASSIVELY knocked out Centurions City in 17/18 CL???
Goal against Napoli in the GS when Liverpool on the verge of elimination???
His performance vs Roma in the first leg of the 17-18 UCL semi final is better than any other UCL performance form these players on the list.
“Mane might’ve been Liverpool’s best player 18/19.” Van dijk who should’ve won a balon d’or over LM10:
This will probably get lost in the depths of the internet but I’m loving these tier lists you’re making man
Hazard over Robben, Ribery, Figo and Salah is plain stupid tbh. I understand this is YOUR list, but You really went for personal preference on that selection. Don't become an Eye test merchant bro 😂.. Stats, longevity, trophies won and big game moments are just as important as eye test and hazard is low on all of these other categories.
Ok so lampard is better than gerrard
@@teeqx7361yes isn’t this common knowledge
@@poptraxx418 apparently not. I have lampard over gerrard but I’m not basing these arguments solely on “stats” like a robot
If you use longevity argument against hazard you can do the same for Neymar same for bale also hazard has better stats than Figo and ribery.
If you use longevity argument against hazard you can do the same for Neymar same for bale also hazard has better stats than Figo and ribery. Also Figo has never scored in a final
I can't picture Neymar and Ronaldinho next to Bale Mbappe and Hazard, I just can't, there's no comparison.
Hazard & Bale aren't Table 1.
What on earth did Hazard do to deserve being top 5 on this list? Won 1 ucl to which he contributed absolutely nada, only scored more than 15 goals in a league campaign once, never won a golden boot or any major personal accolade apart from 1 POTY. Stats wise he isn’t even on par with Mane and Sterling, let alone Salah
Hazard is/was a magical player he just didn't have the best carreer he could've had, but ball on ball ability top 5 player of his generation
To be fair Hazard did win the playmaker award in 18-19, but yeah I also wouldn’t have Hazard in tier 1 either. His disastrous 15-16 season and his entire time at Real Madrid pretty much ruined any chance of him being tier 1.
figo ahead of hazard and should be tier 1
The only one I really disagree with is the placement of son because reus is one tier below him but if you really look at it reus and son have nearly identical careers for dortmund and spurs because they consistently got 20 g/a season and also reus in the CL he was better than son. both didn’t win anything really and both went to the CL final as biggest career achievement, stayed loyal to two clubs who both bottled it, if anything reus won some cups at dortmund. I think lyes is a giving a little bit too much PL bias. I don’t see a single reason why son should be table 3 and be above reus so for me son needs to go down a level but the list is very balanced and valid
Tbf, when you look at the rankings, there's only a spot between Son and Rues so they are close. I definitely think Reus peaked higher but a few cases you could argue he's below is that he was pretty injury prone, especially compared to Son who was very durable for Spurs. And internationally, Son has a much bigger impact for Korea than he does for Germany (mainly bcuz he missed most tournaments due to injury). But for most of the list, I can't complain.
@@youz_aepyeah but it supports my argument even more even though he has missed so many games he still has a arguably better career and more g+a
Bro Ronaldinho's prime is on par with the greatest prime's in football history which are Maradona and Messi. Only player who reached those skies, definetely better than CR7 and Neymar, and I don't mention Pele as I haven't watched him.
Arguably worst take ever💀💀😭. Dinho is so overrated it's insane. A showboater at best
having such meady players on the list but no rodrygo is crazy lol
rodrygo 5 or 4 on this list imo
@@peterdian3349he’s 3
@@peterdian3349 huh? he is easily mid of table 3. He has achieved more than 90% of the players on this list with contribution
How the hell can you say Hazard arguably reached the highest individual level when Salah literally bagged 60 G/A in 17/18. Be serious
1:27:00 "salahs not better than gigs" stop it man.
I love Hazard, he was my favorite player for a long time, because of his insane dribbles and character, but realistically he should be behind Ribery.
Coming back to this, I genuinely have no major problems with his besides Bale. Should be below Hazard/Robben/Salah. You get distracted by his moments. He only really had 3 great league campaigns while the rest have had more. His Wales display was mostly at ST, not as a winger, and he was washed by 2016. Remember watching and Ramsay was the better player for Wales. The big free kicks and bicycle kicks often gloss over how many good performances he had post 2016, he really had a 5 year impressive prime, while the others have much longer peaks
If he’s washed by 2016 what does that make Salah?
@@CodPatrol someone who did it 8 years consistently and is still doing it?
Bale in 2017-18 was fantastic. His 2016-17 season he was great but injury prone. And for 2 or 3 seasons in Tottenham he was amazing
@@dubialexander9802 He wasnt great in 17-18. I'll give him 4 seasons, still such a small sample size vs all the players I mentioned. Overrated moments player
@@RPCentral7 21 goals and 7 assists in 39 games for the 2017-18 season. And bale was one of the best players in the prem for 3 seasons. Including his 2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16, and 2016-17 (when he was fit), 2017-18, that's 8 seasons in total.
wingers are usually the best on their teams
Ribery over di Maria any day for me personally
Salah was definitely disrespected in this video but we can agree he was placed fairly 6th
No we can't
Salah is better than Hazard. He should be tier 1.
Salah is tier 1 and the only players that have an argument over him are Neymar and Ronaldinho.
@ Ngl with you thinking back a month ago I was wrong he gets 5th easily
Lyes try doing a list with cams having a dual perspective to list the players
Eden Hazard Overrated
2014/15 Debunked:
1. Intro
I’m not disputing that Eden Hazard didn’t deserve the PFA player of the year because I still think he was the best player in the best team that year which imo is the best criteria for an award like this (Unlike Ballon D’or might I add). But this Chelsea team was stacked being led by “the Special One” this team was anchored by a the best defense in the league with only 32 goals allowed. They did not have the best GD and they had a lot of draws as week (9). My point being that the accomplishements of Chelsea in 2015 was not from any carry job but from a masterful team effort from Captain John Terry to striker Diego Costa to the manager Jose Mourinho.
2. No Statistical Dominance:
A. In 2014-25 Hazard had his 2nd best statistical season posting 14 goals and 9 assists in the PL. Ofc these are good numbers, especially in hindsight but in the moment these never blew me away. This is ofc the era of Messi and Ronaldo scoring 40+ league goals a season, CR7 a LW, and Hazard is barely posting 30 G/As all comps.
B. Though Hazard was a fantastic dribbler and had the most successful dribbles in the PL in 2015, he was still behind the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, and Robbern across the Big 5 leagues and fun fact he has less successful dribbles and at a lower success rate than the year before.
B. Then there was this kid named Neymar Jr… who is only a year younger then Hazard and burst onto the season around similar times in their farmer leagues and major clubs. The whole world knew who was better. Neymar had 22 league goals and 9 assists. Double-digit goals in the CL was arguably the best player in the tournament as they went on to win the treble. He is literally a better version of Haard at everything. More effective dribbling, more skill, better finishing, better touch, better technique, faster, stronger, everything.
C. There were a number of other PL legends with great statistics and imo would have ran away with the PFA POTY if they had won the league. Not only do I think they had as good of seasons as Hazard in 2015 but I also think they are GREATER players all time wise
-Sergio Aguero: 26 goals, 8 assists. He was averaging 1.21 G/As a game. That was literally better then Ronaldo that year. - -David Silva: 12 goals, 7 assists. I mean if he wasn’t the best midfielder in the PL to you then it had to be Fabregas
-Harry Kane: Breakout season with 21 goals
-Di Maria: In a FLOP season, being played at LW, CAM, ST, and more, Angel still had more assists (10) and .5 G/As a game to Hazard’s .6
-Alexis Sanchez 16 goals and 8 assists and 2nd best dribbler in the league. I would like to argue that Sanchez was not only AS good as Hazard in his prime… but that he had a BETTER 2014-15 season then him… For one Sanchez has 37 G/As in 52 games compared to Hazard’s 31 in the same amount. Both were unlikely losing to away goals in the CL I will say but what Sanchez did with Chile was unreal. Sanchez as Chile’s star player led them to their first Copa America victory ever over an Argentian side boasting Messi, Aguero, Di Maria, Mascherano, Higuain, Tevez, Otamendi, Rojo, Zabaleta, Garay, Romero, Lavezzi, Lamela, Biglia, and Banega…. and then he did it AGAIN the next year! And similar to Hazard 2015 wasn;t even Sanchez’s best season at Arsenal, in 2016 he was hurt, and in 2017 he had FOURTY-SEVEN G/As in 51 games. I mean Hazard’s best season in 2019 was 38 G/As in 52 games, and he was playing in Europa League, and Sanchez was in the CL. Sanchez also has 20 trophies to Hazard’s 15 (more like 9 if you don’t include all the Real Madrid ones that he didn’t contribute to.
4. Belgium’s Golden Generation:
-Hazard has never ever ever been a better player or more impactful player then KDB for club or country. Even by 2015 Hazard was supposed already a wonderkid, and bursting into his prime… That same year KDB EXPLODED into world football with an all-time performance establishing himself as one of the best players the world.
-16 goals and 28 assists all comps. The most assists in all of Europe. That was 5 goals and 5 assists in 11 Europa League games and won Wolfsburg’s FIRST and ONLY DFB Pokal. I mean KDB played there for two seasons and is a bigger Wolfsburg and Bundesliga legend then Hazard at Lille in Ligue 1.
5. Summary:
I do respect Hazard I really do. He was worldclass and is an PL legend. But for one being an PL legend is overrated when the PL has only been the best league in the world for less then a decade. (Historically it was once Germany and then Italy and has been Spain for most of the 21st century). And Hazard is frankly a closer player all time to Sadio Mane then he was to Mo Salah much less Neymar Jr.
I have an All-Time Modern Football Ranking. This ranks every player starting in 1992. I still believe Hazard is a top 100 Modern Footbaler ever:
81. Sanchez
82. HAZARD
83. Courtois
But we’ll see far down he slides as imo Haaland has already surpassed him after his recordbreaking treble winning season.
You lost me at saying De Bruyne was better for Belgium ngl. Also think Hazard was a better dribbler than Neymar. Neymar was a skillful unpredictable dribbler where as Hazard was powerful and direct
@@RPCentral7 Neymar was undoubtedly a better dribbler 😂😂what are we saying here.
Hazard was better then KBD at ONE tournament smh
@@RPCentral7What?? Neymar has averaged 4.2 succesful dribbles per 90 behind Messi's 4.3. He also has the most games with more than 10+ succesful dribbles. He's comfortably a better dribbler than Hazard
Love the Eden respect that one injury from Thomas Meunier (if you know you know) is what stopped him properly cooking at Madrid but regardless as a footballer he’s clear of Salah in terms of on the ball ability
What has Mbappe done to be considered in the top tier? Is he even a winger to begin with?
Also, Salah should be in the first, the guy will forever be a victim of his nationality. There is no way Hazard matches up to him for 2 peak seasons vs 8 years ongoing peak and Salah being objectively a better footballer on every metric.
Unfortunately National team matters. So Salah who doesn't even have an African Cup should not be compared to one of the best players in world cup history.
This narrative that Hazard only did it for 2 seasons is absolutely ridiculous and only exists because he had that one poor season in between. Apart from that he was always Chelsea’s main guy, and before Chelsea was the best player in France where he won the league with LILLE. Also just because they played the same position (yes I know one right one left) doesn’t mean their roles were the same. Salah plays far more advanced where the false nine (Firmino) would drop deep to allow the wingers to run in behind. Hazard would orchestrate play from a much deeper position. Hazard is a better playmaker and dribbler than Salah I can’t believe that’s even debatable.
@@MongolGabonclub team matters, mbappe has done anything significant ever at club level. Nor is his club resume comparable to Salah.
@@Hamzathefirst Unfortunately, Mbappe did score 50 Champions league goals at the age of 25 and Salah only has 49. Sadly, big moments matter in football too. Mbappe's world cup campaigns so far has been very big, he won the world cup, and world cup golden boot. Salah will never have something like that.
Man said 2 peak seasons hazard😂😂😂😂 also salahs influence over the game is nowhere near hazards
Give mbappe time this season. Once he stops feeling the pressure and goes back to his position at LW, he’ll be the best player on the planet again like he’s been since 2021 until this yr
Mbappés 'worst season', was his best in terms of productivity. He wins a domestic treble with PSG, & wins European Golden Shoe with Kane. A lot of people look at Vinicius as the main player at UCL, but Mbappé & Kane were the standout players last season, & had a bigger impact on the UCL than Vini.
Hazard is tier 1. Also think Giggs is at least tier 2. Both very underrated nowadays coz of stats
Hazard is not tier 1💀
1:08:31 knowing Vini didn’t win it makes this so much better, he did not deserve the ballon dor
Great list, could add Podolski, Kuyt, Maxi Rodriguez, Wiltord, Błaszczykowski and Walcott, instead of Arshavin, Duff, Kalou, Nasri, Vicente, all good players but underachieving or undeserving to be on this kind of list
I’ll always pick on Lyes’s tier lists but you have to give it to bro this is elite content.
Hazard respect 🫡
Sterling over Sanchez is absolutely atrocious. You talk about peak, Sterling can’t lace Sanchez boots, he was one of the best player in the Prem only second to Hazard and what he did for Chile… he was the MAIN man. Sterling was a side piece. I mean they literally played in the league at the same time and not a single soul would pick Sterling over Sanchez
Im sorry but Ronaldinho clears. World Cup Winner + Balón D’Or is no joke. There might be an argument but dinho clears. Everything Neymar could do Dinho could do plus he didn’t have the Luxury of playing alongside juggernaut Messi and Suarez at their peak yet he won everything there is to win with a smile.
He is the only player ever to have won a World Cup, a Copa América, a Confederations Cup, a Champions League, a Copa Libertadores and a Ballon d'Or. Nothing tops that I’m sorry.
Btw let’s not act like Neymar had crazy longevity. Neymar is like 13/14-18/19. 5-6 years max. Ronaldinho was from 01/02-05/06. 5-6 years too. If we compare those two spans for both player you have your pick.
On an individual level, I personally think there are a few aspects in neymar's game that dinho slightly lacked...Ronaldinho however was a more headache to opposition defense, more pace more power
Dinho at his very best was better than neymar but neymar overall is better than dinho, and dinho at his worst was horrific
Neymar was also great in 22/23 , 19-21 he led psg to the ucl final and Brazil to the Copa America final
Neymar was one of the best players in the world at santos… top 10 in ballon dor from Brazil
Copa libertadores to santos since pele days… do your research
What?? Neymar has been world class since 2010 and lost that tag in 2023 that's 11-13 world class seasons give or take. As an individual Neymar is the better playmaker and goalscorer, was just as aesthetic and had 2× the end product of Dinho. As a footballer it's Neymar, who had the better career however? Dinho
I think Hazard is the captain of tier 2, for me he was on the verge/edge of being one of the greatest but needed one step, one jump.
Salah over hazard ffs!!!!!!!
Salah could do everything hazard has ever done, while staying consistent with longevity, and pulling crazy numbers. It's no brainer bro, Salah is better than Hazard.
Nah
@@obed89601) salah cannot do what hazard can do( progressing the ball from the deep almost like a midfielder consistently)
2) why are we acting like hazard doesn't have longevity(ligue 1 player of the year carried lille to the title)
3)always played in better teams than hazard once in his prime in Liverpool and even then hazard was still considered the best player in the league up until 2018 after that it was kdb
So yes a no brainer hazard>> salag
Easily
Salah has done nothing special at international stage. I am not even asking for a win but not performing in afcon is bad. hazard was the best player in the euro and wc
Sanchez beingthat low feels criminal😭🙏
Salah fanboys gonna flood the comments lol. Good list. I personally have Ronaldinho over Neymar, and I'd also have Ribery in Table 1, but other than that, I don't have too many problems with it.
Ribery is definitely not table 1
@@LoyalFan9383 To me, he is.
I’m a Bayern fan… and Ribéry was not better than Robben. He was consistently great but in the big games the main man was Robben… also Robben was way better for his country. If anything Robben is table 1.
Yeah anti salah agenda ... Ribery in table 1😂
@@Honest_LFC_Fan_YNWA Ribery is a better footballer than Mohamed Salah.
Keep going please. No one does these giant tier list for players and that's shocking to me
Liverpool nation will be suing.
I'm brazilian and I agree with you. Even though R10 was pure magic, and was Ballon D'or twice and also World Cup Champion, he had way better team mates on the national team that allowed him to be World Cup champion, like Ronaldo, Rivaldo, etc. Neymar on the other hand, was unfortunate to have played on the same generation as CR7 and Messi, that's why he never got his Ballon Dor.
next... center backs
Loving this series!
plz rank centre backs bro