Which AA Battery Last The Longest?
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The camera made the dying batteries so much more apparent. That was cool.
Ya for the fan test you can see the speed of each fan because of the camera's shutter speed. Human eyes can't see that. It was really cool to view it that way.
yeah. as is slowed down it was closer to matching the frame rate of the video
I wanted to see if he'd had any point of footage where the shutter speed matched the fans rotation speed and just for a small bit you might see the blades stand still.
@@talaeyn8326 that would be cool
The Duracell fan looked animated when it started slowing. I thought I looked pretty cool
I definitely recommend doing a “best rechargeable battery” video. Test their starting power, how long they take to charge, how long they last, how fast the battery degrades, ext…
Energizer and GP are the BEST rechargable by far,
I know itd be cool for him to do it, but if you need results now-project farm did battery tests a few years ago
@@chuckkolancz4969 yeah I’m sure I could find videos of that on RUclips. I just want to see Tyler’s flair that he adds to his video. You know? But thank you for the top on where I can find it :)
Panasonic Eneloop for me. By far the best I’ve tried.
@@greekveteran2715 I have used Energizer rechargeable batteries and various others for years. Like you said, Energizer is 2-3 times the life of the competition. The only thing I have noticed with Energizer aa bats is that there are 2 sizes. I want to say 1200 and 1600 mAh. So the smaller one is a significant difference.
TLDR =
1. Thunderbolt Edge - 7:47:49 5 cents/hr
2. Energizer - 6:59:09 12 cents/hr
3. Amazon Basics - 6:33:52 5 cents/hr
4. Energizer Lithium - 5:56:34 33 cents/hr
5. Duracell - 5:41:12 13 cents/hr
6. Powermax - 5:05:46 4 cents/hr
7. AC Delco - 3:58:21 8 cents/hr
8. Thunderbolt Magnum - 3:35:46 8 cents/hr
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The lithium can just dump more power into the fan. It's just a fan and a switch. The lithium was running faster but didn't last as long. Overall it provides more power but kills itself faster.
Like Americans
Lithium is more used in cameras. Something you don't use continuously ?? My Blink system and Sony camera ask for them.
Yeah, lithium batteries provide 100% at all times, even when it’s just about to die. Alkaline slows down and gives less of a consistent current as it’s used
@@brotheman11 That's about what I was thinking as well. Lithium is more for electronics that could be negatively affected by the slow power dropoff due to decreasing voltage.
Lithium batteries are expensive, but they have some significant advantages: They perform well in very cold temperatures, have a shelf life measured in decades, and do not leak and destroy expensive equipment. Well worth the money in the right use case.
I would love to see if the thunderbolt edge batteries are consistently this good within a pack or between the packs. Redoing the fan and light test with either a whole pack or a battery from multiple packs and comparing data for variation would be interesting
Good suggestion. And all in the SAME device. Not all manufactured devices are the same. There can be some slight variances.
excellent suggestion. The thing with batteries is that there are a lot of factors that count. Storage, age, even application and how long they are next to other batteries.
For a proper test, you should actually use batteries with the same manufacturing date.
Definitely.
Yes ….repeat repeat and compare various lots !!!
Yes same. I would grab like 3 from each package and set up 9 fans and see what happens.
its kinda scary watching him do semi-professional science. he's unlocked more of his brain.
not really
He's learnding
He just spent his skill points, no worries
@@MonstertruckBadass forza?
Needs at least: 1) Replication. There could have been variances in the fans themselves that affected power draw. Should have had 5+ fans for each battery and both taken the average time and examined the variance (quartiles, SD, SE, etc), 2) Should have checked either if the blade rotation rate or the power draw of each fan was the same at the start. Some batteries may have output more power and spun the blades at a faster rate, while also draining the power faster. Probably a few other variables there as well.
Personally, I love the dragging out! It shows how dedicated and intrigued you are. Love your videos, keep being you!
Actually depleted batteries do weigh less than they do when fully charged, it's just that there is no consumer grade scale that is sensitive enough to detect the extremely small difference.
It's a physics thing. A compressed spring also weigh more than the same spring in a relaxed state. .
Pretty sure that’s not true. The whole conservation of mass thing and all…
@@TheCoolcatcleoI promise it is true.
That's not true, a spring will weigh the same compressed or related. Same with the battery, it has the same amount of electrons charged or dead, they are just on the opposite side
@@danelfernandez6571 that's not true. you can even look it up. Depleted batteries weigh less. you can even google it. THere is NOT the same amount of electrons charged vs dead.
@@danelfernandez6571 From what I understand it is true on a relativistic scale, but the change in mass is incredibly small. Think of E=mc2. The energy in the spring system is higher when compressed (or stretched) as it is "stored" as potential energy. c would be the speed of light constant, so the only remaining thing in the system that could change is the mass.
Good for you for getting a sponsor. I find this video put together and much better than your normal test/comparison videos. The gold standard would definitely be any video from 'Project Farm'. Your lineup of fans/batteries was easy to see and actually measuring time for each was well done...actual measurable data which you don't often do, imo. In this test, for example, I'd recommend you get one of those RPM measuring devices and you could have measured rpm of each on the hour or something until they died.
Anyway, well done and good improvement in your testing/comparison process and video.
Keep it up!
The brilliant change of background, how much more perfect can you get? Great vid as always Tyler!
Tyler just sits in his garage and sits there for hours and is probably bored out of his mind to tell us how long a battery lasts, love this man.
Keeping cool though 😮
The best rechargeable AA battery's would be a good follow up.
Agreed
my energizers have been recharged for over 5 years now...they're the only ones I have tried though
I thought about this and the time it would take to truly test them would take so long I don't know if it would be worth it to him lmao
@@Doja421 I bought my first set of rechargeable AA batteries about 15 years ago and they finally died a couple of months ago.
That's pretty easy. Enloops might not last as long per charge but can be charged 1000s of times and still perform
I would be curious to see tests for national store brand batteries such as Walgreens, aldi, Albertsons, cvs, Kroger, Walmart etc. Otherwise I'll definitely be looking into the thunderbolts
Dude, check out the Dollar tree Sunbeam alkaline. They are the reigning king in my own experience around my house and you cannot beat the price.
@@The_Conqueeftador they are the best in price, but they don't last long and by the time you keep replacing them you could've just bought a better performing battery. I stopped buying those a few years ago
@@The_Conqueeftador Those are only good for remotes, literally.
Thunderbolt Edge definitely beats the Sunbeams in value, especially when they're on sale or you have a 30% off coupon, and you go to Harbor Freight regularly.
The now sadly discontinued "Alkalisk" AA batteries from of all places Ikea were basically the best i've ever used that were non-lithium disopsables. Same with rechargable, the "Ladda" AA's from Ikea were just as good as, or often longer lasting than my eneloops.
Ikea Ladda's literally are Eneloops. They're the same battery from the same plant. Literally just a different wrapper on it
That's what I thought too i bought a ton of ladda aa cells before they changed the label to green which i don't know if they are as good.
i remeber like in 2015 so not sure if they still ahv ethem that the publix brand batteries were good adn i saw batteries for decen tprice at bells and citi trends i woulden tthink would find that there
More Harbor Freight locations than Ikeas, so there could be less overall driving to move on but you still need to use disposable batteries.
In middle school the duracells crushed it during a battery test for science class. Sad to see then fall. I think Amazon basics will be my next try. Would love to see store brand batteries tested since I work at Walmart, if those are good, then saves me a trip.
I've been using Amazon Basics Rechargeable Nickel Metal Hydride AA Batteries for the past 6-7 years. The first 4 batteries are still going strong, and are showing absolutely NO sign of aging or loss of charge. The box came with 16 batteries, I'm still on the first four. I still have 12 that haven't been used. That's how good they are. Down with the Lithium/Lithium-Ion garbage, up with Nickel Metal Hydride. Nickel Metal Hydride and Nickel Cadmium Master Race! 😀
video by video, tyler is working his way towards a phd in experimental physics. next step is when he pulls out the excel charts. you can do this tyler!
edit: 29:47 - i spoke too soon, he has done just that! way to go tyler, you are getting more scientifically rigorous ;)
In other words, you watched the video through, then made the comment and edited it immediately.
@@X22GJP yep
The idea to use fans on camera for this test was honestly just brilliant.
Thanks Tyler. I been asking the same question for years. I always wondered what double a battery lasts the longest. I would of never thought In a million years that the thunderbolt edge would turn out to be the best battery.
Even compared to twice or more of a price difference. It's cheaper to just change a cheaper battery than to have a more expensive one run an extra hour.
@@curbotize I agree with you 💯.
@@curbotize Even cheaper to buy rechargeable and even more environment friendly (although can be debated with how we make them, still creates less waste though.)
Take Tyler's test with a grain of salt. Not every device runs the same as a fan. Each battery is going to have a unique discharge curve that may lend itself more useable in different scenarios. For example, in a higher discharge device, the lithium would've been head and shoulders about the alkalines, getting triple the runtime in an item like a high powered flashlight or a camera flash.
ALL THESE BATTRIES GOT WAY MORE ENERGY THAN SLEEPIE JOE brandon!!! HE SURE LOVES PUTTIN!!!!
I have to say I'm a fan of this video. the results really blew me away...
Finally there are reasonably affordable AA-sized Li-Ion rechargables. They are amazing. BTW, There is more to batteries than their longevity. Some batteries are better for heavy loads, others for long length at low currents, or under various surge behaviors, etc. Energizer ultimate lithium is also a favorite. Energizer alkaline are also very good. Eneloop NiMH batteries are fine if you can deal with 1.2V instead of 1.5. BTW, the expired batteries are probably micrograms lighter because of E=mc^2 and all that. EV's weigh a couple grams more when fully charged. It is not a nonsequitur to say that this is why people are so excited about the prospect of nuclear fusion.
You have also demonstrated one reason why people prefer lithium technologies for EVs, power tools, etc: -- the output, after an initial fall-off, remains nearly constant until it drops below useful levels. Thus, devices can rely on full power until there is none, a good feature.
When a battery is advertised as "Lasting X times longer", They generally compare them to standard Carbon batteries or their most basic battery. Rarely they compare to opposition batteries of the same type.
do it again with rechargeable batteries
and once they die, do it one more time after you've charged the dead batteries
@Amd Power ok, same thing would go for the batteries tested in this video. I wanna see what types of rechargeable batteries will last over others, what their prices are, and how recharging effects them. The non rechargeables we saw in this video have varying price points, some lasted longer than others even though they costed less. I wanna see if that holds true for some brands and if the lower price will effect the quality of recharge
ruclips.net/video/CzZrB974Zro/видео.html&ab_channel=ProjectFarm since Tyler is just stealing ideas now. Down to the same fans. Project Farm even does a one year update for them.
The best part of the Thunderbolt Edge is that they go on sale all the time, so they are an even better value than what's shown in the video.
Does anyone remember the Duracell batteries that you pressed and it showed how much life was in the battery?
I do, those were the good old times, they were called Duracell power check.
And you had to push so damn hard on the thing it made your fingertips hurt? Yeah those were fun to have as a kid.
I still have some of them surprisingly
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Application is key here. I have an outdoor sensor for an indoor/outdoor thermometer. I use only Energizer Lithium for this, due to temp extremes. It gets direct sun in the morning and well below freezing temps at night during the winter. Each cell lasts about two years. There is a transmitter pulse every 20 or 30 seconds. The weight savings adds up with multi cell flashlights. Great video! A real bargain is the Panasonic Carbon Zinc AA. Very inexpensive, and they last longer than the cost might indicate.
I remember when Energizer didn't have the Max. When the Max was being made, it was compared to the non-Max Energizer batteries. I guess they stopped making the non-max and just kept the labeling?
I still find non MAX , MAX and MAX PLUS which are their best Alkaline. They added the "MAX" label every time they produced a better Alkaline, that lasts longer. Their non "MAX" label are the common Alkaline they make, the MAX are the middle of the road and the MAX PLUS are their best ALkaline that lasts the longest. Their 2000 mAh rechargable, are actually 2300mAh and generally, these are the BEST batteries I've tested personaly. Panasonic are overated for what they are. The Eneloops patend that got from SANYO is not that bad, but their common Panasonic Alkaline, are some of the worst batteries out there! Duracel isn't bad, but not as good as Energizers are, and they also are suspectible to leakage... Energizer was is and probably will always be the best. Another brand I suggest are GP .
alot of stores dont carry non max ones anymore
Ran my own test on Energizer Lithium and Thunderbolt Edge batteries. Put them in a 512 Eotech, and the Edges can't keep up with the power demand. The Energizers stayed brighter longer, and last about 35 minutes more. Ran them both on the highest setting. If you need a consistent output I would just deal with the more expensive Energizer Lithium batteries. But for everyday items the edges are good.
Try making an rpm measure of the fanblades with the Edge and the Lithium, you should see a decent difference. Lithium have a higher discharge rate, so they power things to the max from start to finish.
Yeah, it's not just about runtime. A battery that delivers less peak performance because it has a lower voltage under load, can actually increase runtime, because it basically chokes whatever it's running, making less current flow through the circuit it's powering, and thus run longer
I wish there was also a convenient way to test how consistent the performance between all the batteries in a package was, but without taking the time to do all these tests for every battery in all those packs idk how you’d get a big enough sample size to draw a meaningful conclusion.
Also seven hours to sit in a garage is a lot, the sacrifice for science is appreciated!
Lately I've been looking to try those newer style rechargeable batteries. They have almost all the sizes and they charge by micro usb. I don't think they last longer run time wise but the extended life and number of uses are suppose to be a major difference.
Same I thought they were cool. They cost about as much as rechargable batteries+a battery recharger though. And when your normal rechargable battery eventually dies you can get new ones pretty cheap or you can get more if you need more than the ones that initally come with the recharger. So I do not think they are really worth it yet. That being said these are certainly convinient as you can charge them with a battery pack while travling for example. Generally if you go through a lot of batteries lets say with a wireless controller, even these more expensive ones are gonna be worth it eventually. It's also better for the environment.
I use rechargeable batteries for my Xbox controller. They are great.
Shoot, now there are some that charge with USB-C.
I use Duracell rechargeable batteries. No micro USB tho. Bought them earlier this year. For things that need frequent battery changes they're worth it.
@@ThePrufessa The main issue with the Duracell rechargeable cells is that they have switched to Chinese made cells.
As such, they are quite inconsistent from cell to cell.
This is fairly common with Chinese cells.
The older Duracell rechargeable cells were Japanese made, and they were pretty good, (and were likely relabeled Enerloops)
The 2 look IDENTICAL, except for the text stating "made in xx".
overall, I would say the lithium battery is the best because it delivers a more consistent voltage throughout its lifetime. it sucks that they are so expensive though. this was an interesting video, I'd love to see something similar with rechargeable batteries, which is where I personally look for the best value proposition.
If you do this again, I’d love to see you include the batteries from dollar tree!
Yea I’d like to know the difference between those and harbor freight magnum, I switched from dollar tree to those lol
I was thinking the same thing, but a comparison between all the dollar store batteries like Dollar General, Dollar Tree, and Family Dollar.
I came here to say the same thing
I had tiny christmas lights on my desk at work, used Dollar Tree batteries to run them, thinking the lights were so small they wouldn't take much juice to run, but I found myself switching out the Dollar Tree batteries about every 2hrs... just wasn't worth the hassle OR the money because it didn't actually save anything.
Include the battery I made for my high school science project.
0:15 when he said '8 fans' i laugh and I really donno why 😂
Just wanted to say I can recognize how much work this took, I bet the post production work took twice as long as the filming. Good video now test how well different brands of flushable wet wipes break down
Answer: they don't and they create fatburgs. Get a bidet or moisen a wad of TP before you go.
Slight critique. There could be manufacturing differences in those fan, especially if they are cheap. There could be pretty varying current draws from one fan to the next
same I was thinking, variance of motors and the blades
Just wondering how sharp an A4 battery can get...?!🧠
Oh yeah grinding an acid filled container, very smart 🧐 I’ll try it and tell u how it goes
@@maxgotthemstacks661 Grinding an acid filled container....sounds like getting nasty with a bottle of balsamico vinegar 😁
@@toxictrumptube7763 😂😂😂
@@BillyLeeGoodman 😇😅
@@toxictrumptube7763 Now that you put it that way, it makes sense, balsamic vinegar is a battery
“We all know I tend to talk too much” then immediately proceeds to superimpose himself over himself talking too much anyways. 😂
the best battery that i remember using in every nerf gun is the radioshack enercel. they for some reason increased the speed of the motors making it shoot faster, and lasted just as long.
RIP Radio Shack 📻 😢
I was tired and about to go to bed, but then saw this in my recommended and said *fuck it let's find out!*
I have used Rayovac batteries all my life and I'm disappointed that you did not include these in this test... Please don't repeat manufacturers when doing tests like this.
Chat GPT analyzed the transcript and gave me this....Based on the testing results you described, here is the order of the AA batteries ranked from longest to shortest lasting:
Harbor Freight Thunderbolt Edge - Lasted 7 hours 47 minutes 49 seconds.
Energizer Max - Lasted 6 hours 59 minutes 9 seconds.
Amazon Basics - Lasted 6 hours 33 minutes 52 seconds.
Energizer Ultimate Lithium - Lasted 5 hours 56 minutes 34 seconds.
Duracell - Lasted 5 hours 41 minutes 12 seconds.
Powermax - Lasted 5 hours 5 minutes 46 seconds.
AC Delco - Lasted 3 hours 58 minutes 21 seconds.
Harbor Freight Thunderbolt Magnum - Lasted 3 hours 35 minutes 46 seconds.
In summary, the Harbor Freight Thunderbolt Edge was the best-performing battery in this test, providing the longest runtime at a lower cost compared to others like the Energizer Ultimate Lithium, which was significantly more expensive but did not last as long.
I'll bet the lithium AA had a higher voltage throughout the test resulting in a higher fan rpm. ( Motors rpm is directly tied to voltage) so it probably died sooner due to running faster during the test
Yup, that'll be it exactly. In any fixed load test it would have smoked the other batteries, much like with the flashlight.
Yup, and you could see the hazard fraught titanium battery using a power curve trick to last so long, the voltage on that battery plainly dropped to a lower level really early in the test (going by the RPM), which is how it outlasted all the other batteries. If you used a test that measured actual air throughput, ie how many cubic grammes of air each battery shifted during its lifetime, the Duracell and Energiser would have smoked the HF Titanium.
And yes, the lithium energiser would have smoked all the others.
Yup, and you could see the hazard fraught titanium battery using a power curve trick to last so long, the voltage on that battery plainly dropped to a lower level really early in the test (going by the RPM), which is how it outlasted all the other batteries. If you used a test that measured actual air throughput, ie how many cubic grammes of air each battery shifted during its lifetime, the Duracell and Energiser would have smoked the HF Titanium.
And yes, the lithium energiser would have smoked all the others.
Yup, and you could see the hazard fraught titanium battery using a power curve trick to last so long, the voltage on that battery plainly dropped to a lower level really early in the test (going by the RPM), which is how it outlasted all the other batteries. If you used a test that measured actual air throughput, ie how many cubic grammes of air each battery shifted during its lifetime, the Duracell and Energiser would have smoked the HF Titanium.
And yes, the lithium energiser would have smoked all the others.
Also I know these ultimate lithiums quite well and they're ALWAYS 1.8v or more out of the packaging, so something is off there.. maybe a lemon but even then the rpm is obviously true if one could measure the total rotations instead of time would've been a more accurate test.
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This was a really good, very informative video. Thank you very much for making this!
From real world tests, I can say the Energizer Lithium is the best for electronics. Battery operated fans don’t have voltage or current regulation, so lithium batteries just dump everything into them, damaging the battery and resulting in shorter life, while regulated electronics can get a much longer life out of the lithium battery. Steady voltage output and steady current availability are also much better for digital equipment as opposed to analog.
Low power analog devices might get a better result out of the Thunderbolt Edge batteries like your fan test showed.
The fan didn't damage the battery. What happened was that the simple, unregulated motor is spinning significantly faster with the higher voltage (from start and sustained) throughout the whole test. A faster spinning motor means it draws more power.
Now if you like a slower fan that keeps going for an hour longer, a good alkaline might be a better choice in this case, but you're definitely getting better performance with the Lithium.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 If you wanna get really into it, there’s also the option of a resistor in series. This way, you set a max amperage no matter what’s on the other end. But since this was just a review of batteries… Eh. The fan was overdrawing and wore it out faster.
I'm always impressed how well many of the amazon basics products do.
agreed
I almost exclusively use Amazon basics phone chargers for my iPhone and they always outlast my Apple chargers at a fraction of the cost
It's like ozark trail. They source generic Chinese plants and slap their brand on em.
Chinese slave labor makes em cheap
The problem is its different each batch.
In US they use panasonic, in my country they use Fujitsu.
Its not consistent
Idk what in my life happened to bring me to watching a guy testing AA batteries but I’m here for it
Surprised i didnt see Rayovac, maybe thats just locally available in my area. They are cheaper than name brand batteries so would be cool to see if the savings are worth it.
Those are known as the im broke batteries
We have a clock that only runs properly when we use rayovac, any other brands screw up the clock. 🤯
Rayovac are worldwide
3:25 We still have regular Energizer batteries, in Australia. They're probably the most commonly found, along with Duracell batteries.
I've always found energizer to be better value and last longer than duracell - I was surprised to see how well Amazon Basics did though!
duracell is puurelly marketing there batteries were never that good as they claim
For many years I’ve used them in test equipment. For sitting in test equipment, then needing that test equipment, I found Duracell the best bang for my buck. Also had a lot less issues with the battery leaking into my devices. Kind of hard to replicate this kind of test, except for many years of experience. Just my usage, experience and two cents.
Another thing to note here. Energizer Ultimate Lithium are for specific use, such as wireless cameras. They are not recommended for use in say keypad deadbolt locks.
This is the kind of testing I like, maybe think about displaying your results in a more digestible way but keep up the good work 👍🏾
the only thing i could say that could be different would be to try each battery in each fan because we all know manufacturing is never consistant
but that would also take over 60 hours so i understand the choice not to lol
The big Benifits to lithium are 1 that it maintains a steady voltage instead of the voltage tapering from older style batteries, that's not important for things like remote controls or other things that require only a low voltage to run, however for devices that require higher voltage to run you'll find it makes a huge difference in lifespan, 2 is weight, this makes a huge difference in high capacity batteries like for power tools, and in the case of smaller batteries for things like camping, hiking, or bugout bags. 3 i believe but can't swear to it the at in general lithium holds a longer shelf life.its Not always worth the price difference but sometimes it certainly is
3 is definitely true; look at the expiration dates. E.g., Energizer rates their alkaline AAs for 10 years' shelf life, but Li-FeS2 AAs for 20 years.
I like how this guy has two identical garages to do test and commercials in
it depends on what youre using it for, lithium is best for high drain situations. which would be more powerful stuff. the fan was kinda wasting its potential is the best way to put it
Those lithium batteries are the only thing that worked in my digital camera (when we still used cameras instead of phones). Any other battery drained within 20 minutes.
@@lordmysticlaw1991 yeah i run vape stuff, so ive messed with many many many a lithium battery. theres also this guy that does battery tests.
@@cerberus1166 battery mooch
@@illustriousbrainqueef1823 yup surprised you know.
You should publish the date codes of the batteries as well, if available. Batteries will self-discharge sitting on a shelf. I've had very bad luck with Amazon basic batteries for example. Maybe they have a better stock turnover and, therefore, are better charged when you receive them.
Now leave fresh ones in the flashlights and check them every couple days to see which leaks and corrodes first
Duracel leaks
I buy the Rayovac High Energy Alkaline batteries in the 36 pack from Walmart and they last pretty good. I use the energizer Ultimate Lithium for the high power stuff and they work well. I need to buy some more. I used them in my cameras before I used my phone for videos.
The lithium battery seems to be more for power. Like a 6 cylinder engine vs an 8 cylinder.
@Monochromatik Thanks for the info Monochromatik. I really appreciate it.
@Monochromatik the Energizer Lithiums are designed for extreme temperatures. Alkalines are near useless in below 0 (Fahrenheit) temperatures. Lithium will work exactly the same as they would in room temperatures.
@Monochromatik No, the Lithium has more "endurance" (=energy) at the same power draw. But when you power a simple motor like this fan, the motor runs faster at higher voltages and draws more power. The Lithium start with a higher voltage (1.8 V compared to 1.6 V for the alkalines) and keeps a higher voltage until the end. From a certain point, the voltage would have been significantly higher and the alkaline fans were probably running at around half the speed of the Lithium for the second half of the test.
Unless you prefer a slower fan that runs a bit longer, the Lithium is the better battery.
Ah so the best battery depends on what its being put in. Makes sense. Guess lithium is the best for anything light based while the edges are the most reliable for motor based devices. With the maxs a okay back up if you don't have those in your area. Surprised you didn't test Rayovacs. I usually grab those because they are cheap but fairly reliable and long lasting. Would love to see how they compare to the others.
Can we just give a bit of respect to Tyler for thinking of these video ideas.
testing batteries is a wild video idea?
Stealing from Project Farm is not coming up with wild ideas. Down to the same fans used to test them. ruclips.net/video/CzZrB974Zro/видео.html&ab_channel=ProjectFarm
This is one of your best videos imo, loved it!
Incredibly well done sir! Appreciate the great lengths you went to, to collect and record and present all of that data. I feel like we all have wondered this and I know different battery types are better for different applications but you really demonstrated things well and solid data presentation
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26:22 is when you let a good feeling fart out 😂 but great and interesting video nonetheless 👍👍
Love this because i have a 8 month old and everything basically takes batteries! I always buy Duracell , and they always die like within a week or so of him playing or his little sound machine at night.. I thought i was going crazy like how could the second best die so fast? Good thing a harbor freight is literally down the street and i will be buying a pack of the edge!!! Amazing content keep it up please!
Buy rechargeables and a good charger, you'll save yourself money in the long run.
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That face is me telling my pets whenever they wake me up in the morning to let me sleep
Thanks, Tyler, for doing all of this testing for us. If you ever do this again, it would be interesting to see what happens if you turn off the devices for comparable amounts of time during the test. I'm curious how much Peukert's Law would affect the results. Thanks for the video. Just sane... :^) Saint
(Just sub'd BTW)
never thought watching batteries die would be so entertaining
Very interesting results for sure. I am a diabetic and use an insulin pump and I've tried many different brands of batteries and I've found that most batteries last 1 to 2 weeks the only one that always last longer is the energizer lithium last a whole month but when it dies it dies. Didn't know that the different types of loads would make that much of a difference in how long they lasted between them all.
Why not go with rechargeables?
@@Ghakimxepends on the usage and how often you want to be troubled with replacing them. With a game cam, would you rather check your camera battery level once a month or once every 3 1/2 months in the winter?
Battery types are designed for specific uses. Lithiums are excellent in cold weather. Alkalines are not good at all in cold weather and rechargeables probably much worse.
very nice presentation.Your experiments highlight one of the main properties of lithium batteries. The cell voltage remains very " flat" as the cell discharges. This is why you don't notice any change in the performance of your electric drill until the battery almost completely poops out.
I wish you also tested some rechargeable batteries to see how they compare to non rechargeable.
i worked at a duracell. they make descent batteries. types like the 9v is where some questions could come up
Damn you're getting more and more scientific with each video!
Only thing missing is Thomas Dolby screaming "Science" every now and then
So I was hoping you'd do these tests to see if my purchase of the amazon basic batteries were worth it, I would say yes
I might start ordering them too.
Between Tyler Tube & Project Farm, I feel I can safely purchase batteries.
Oh yay, project farm from wish uploaded
FYI, I've been buying the AC Delco on Amazon, 100ct at a time for .25/ea. So while I'd love to try the edge, it's quite a bit pricier!
Interesting to know how different brand performs! Though the lithium batteries are intended for specific products so does not belong with these test objects.
Couldn't agree more.
How about the same tests at 32 degrees F.
Then we would agree the other batteries didn't belong in the test. 🤣
I think lithiums would wipe their tushies...... Including the cost.
@19:58 the word you were looking for was moreerer!🤣
I think the Energizer lithium made the fan spin faster maybe that's why it died so fast kinda like how Duracell optimum batteries work they can deliver longer battery OR increased performance like speed or torque ECT.
They definitely did. They start at a higher voltage of 1.8 V and also keep a high voltage for a long time until the end. A simple motor like this runs faster with higher voltage, draws more power and puts out more energy. So basically the Lithium Energizer produced significantly higher airflow throughout the whole test.
I've been buying Edge ONLY for 2 years now. Also learned the hard way which batteries last the best.
you should do this experiment again multiple times to get an average. also see if you can constantly measure fan speed. and make a graph of voltage drain and fan speed.
This is more scientific than what Tyler normally does.
I listen to/ watch you all the time now and definitely enjoy the scientific vids more. Love ur channel ❤
Ok, camera nerd here... lithium batteries tend to do best, from my experience, in high-drain non-continuous applications, like cameras and flash units. In that case, they pull really hard for a short amount of time and then sit basically idle until the next time the camera/flash is fired. I know that cameras (or off-camera flash units) will chew through alkaline batteries like candy, but lithium versions (and lithium-ion rechargeable) seem to fair a lot better. I put my Speedlight's rechargeable Li-ion batteries in a flashlight once just because I didn't have any new AA batteries handy, and it lasted about 1/3 the time it normally takes to run down a set of normal Energizers. And yes, for those of you thinking, "those rechargeable batteries must have just been worn out or charged badly or something," that was a fairly new set of batteries and they'd only been used in a smart charger. Alkaline and Lithium just seem to be optimized for different applications, from what I've seen
What about for kid toys?
Wait, rechargeable Li-Ions from a Speedlight that are the size of an AA? Those only contain very small 3.7 V lithium cells and a voltage converter that converts it to 1.5 V. These are really inefficient (because of the converter) and with very little capacity.
If you want to compare on an even playing field, you need an AA flashlight that also takes real 14500 Li-Ion cells with 3.7 V. You'll see that the Li-Ion will run the flashlight longer at the same brightness, and about the same amount of time at a higher brightness (that can't be reached with AA batteries or NiMH)
Your test is flawed my friend.
Like your videos, you have a great presence on screen, likeable, excellent ideas, a great work ethic and the giant subscriber base that goes with it. If you either hired or partnered with someone as a science/methodology consultant and an info graphics guy you could have one of the best test, hardware, fun entertainment channels out there. I would love to see you make that step and the growth and exposure that would go with it. Keep up the good work.
The problem with Duracell is that we noticed leaving them in whatever your using them for, they tend to leak battery acid and you have to throw away your items, ie flashlight, Christmas decorations, child toy, etc. We switched to the Energizer which do not leak and corrode .
@BellaDonna49 I noticed the same thing with Duracell, all these years of using them I just thought it was the nature of the beast but now I know better and have stopped using Duracell.. there are many post online about the leaking issue with Duracell. I now use Energizer MAX
I've had just the opposite experience. I am a retired electrical engineer. In my business I had custom dataloggers that needed to operate for 30 days. The batteries operated in series with a series diode across an ac supply wall wart acting as a simple UPS. It was only the Duracell batteries that never gave me leakage and corrosion issues. The Duracell batteries would last months in this configuration. Other manufacturers' batteries including the Energizer brand would leak and corrode the battery holder terminals. I only trusted using the Duracell batteries.
This was the coolest video yet. Guess you can say I’m a fan.
I can't afford the higher end AA batteries, let alone the Ecoflow power station 🙃
I've been buying the Thunderbolt EDGE batteries for a while now and they do seem really good. And at a very reasonable price.
It's nice to see Tyler interacting so nicely with his fans!
Energizer Lithium have up to 20 year shell life and they don't leak. They work in freezing temperatures and are light weight. I use them in remote controls, and wall clocks because alkaline always end up leaking and damaging then. Great for emergency flashlights and radios, because if a battery leaks it will not produce power. I have some new (old stock) AA Energizer lithium cells, they expired this year. I bought them 15 years ago and they still read 1.7 volts and out of 12 batteries I have, none have leaked. Worth the price in certain situations. If all those batteries were 15 years old, I will bet the Energizer Lithium would be the only batteries functioning and not leaking.
I literally did this as a 4th grade science fair project...this is sick. We concluded that normal (not extra strength) Duracell were the best, they did not last the longest, but had the best price/hour ratio. This is so cool to see more than 10 years later...good vid
Duracells defo last longest in my experience especially if you use them till they die in one day like in a radio or flashlight being used for like 12 hours continuous use but don't leave them in anything more than a week they leak BIG TIME! I've had lots of stuff ruined by them including wall clocks. They come in packages that say they are guaranteed for 10 years but if you but them up somewhere to store them they'll leak out and be ruined in only a few years, they are GARBAGE for long term storage or intermittant use of something over a few years. I switched to Energizer that's the 2nd longest lasting IMO and they don't leak!!!
Great job! Love how you tested in different ways. I will be picking up some Thunderbolt Edge batteries at Harbor freight.
I've always preferred energizer and I also felt like they were better than all the other brands
I love when u drag the videos out lol u don’t need to cut straight to it😭😂
Those harborfreight edge batteries are good quality they have served me well since I switched to them
My smoke detectors last 2 weeks with the Duracell batteries, and last around a year with the Energizer Ultimate Lithium. The Energizer Ultimate Lithiums do best where low power long life is needed. (My smoke detectors are the Nest Protect and have the night light function enabled and still Energizer Ultimate Lithium’s last around a year).
One of the most scientific unscientific tests :)
Btw, battery death voltage need to be measured while still in the fan under load. Otherwise without the load it will grow up.