Every new character seems to have installs. It's a pretty lazy way to design characters in my opinion. Tekken 8 game play just doesn't feel as rewarding to me as 7 did. I play Tekken 8 almost everyday. I made it to Tekken God. I love Tekken but damn this game is hard to defend the direction they are taking things
He has by far one of the most broken df1 in Tekken history. Its up there with Jin's from 3 and Feng in 5. First hit is -3 on block, the high extension into the just frame is normal hit guaranteed and wall splats
everything is safe and every move does everything. ss1+2 being + on block, unseeable i19 ch low, ss22 being hitconfirmable for my grandpa, not being able to mess up db11 with all its features tbh just every move you talked about has something really fucking strong aboutt it, and he has all of them at once.. i hate it here. excellent video tho
@@Snuredrams while i personally think that 19 frames is not really reactable even offline, given all the other stuff you gotta worry about. Lets assume it was reactable offline: that is irrelevant for 99.9% of players
among the strongest moves he has the most concerning is f1+2, that shouldnt track at all, it also becomes a hit confirmable heat dash launcher in heat, really OP move.
Copying Ulsan's Tweet - This character is crazy... Clive have Devil jin. B4 Jun 1+2 Lars victor db4 Dragunov d2 Julia ws3 Victor r2 mindgame Ff2 no punish CH combo Side step1+2 +2 normal hit combo Maybe more
For the sample combos sure lol, he’s got pretty damn decent damage and hella good damage if he’s got Zan at 5. Just gotta give it a few hours and people will figure out the good shit lol
Why do you think they are when everyone crying about a character before he’s even out then get the character nerfed while other characters get off Scott free
Dude, idc what the "tekken is fistfight" purists have to say about this character, he's just so super fun and cool to play, and somewhat very familiar if you played 100+ hours of FF16. I can definitely see him getting nerfed very soon though.
His combo damages seem fine overall ? My biggest issue is how safe his moves are, paired with the range he has and his CH potential. He seems like a safer Victor with Bryan's CH abilities, with less damages but less frames aswell. Definitely gonna try and lab him extensively.
One more thing you missed. Phoenix dash 1 is also guaranteed after b2. If you don’t want to go into heat yet and don’t care about Zan meter, this is the highest damage option.
I blame you, I meet this clive player, dude sidestepping every single time, like, 20 time per second XD but tbh, facing clive is so freaking fun! Either if I lose or not, its still fun to face him so if people mad at you, just say skill issue to them :D
People complaining about him... Y'all know he has more than 2 safe CH launchers, a lot of his moves has great range and tracking, literally every damn move that he does wallsplat, he can wall bound from damn miles away..... He has multiple combos that does more than 100 damage 😭😭 why y'all complaining
it seems like his flame dash stance 2 > 1 has a much larger hit confirm window than 2 - 2 and heals on hit rather than giving you meter, so that has value imo
I want Iron man to be in tekken and use jet blasters with maximum bloom and shiny effects that is safe on block and can teleport with 20 seconds animation so that we can put down our controller mid match when we get launched
Honestly, Im new to tekken, I have been playing Kaz from the launch and only other character that was kinda interesting to me was Jin and then Hei when he came out. But Clive... I'm really excited for him! I think maybe he's gonna replace Kaz az my new main for a while.
He's seeming like a good archtype for new players, like a: "If you don't small-tekken me, i'll freestyle on you" kinda character. Seems weak against characters with fast counter-hits, like Kazuya, King, Steve, Azucena, etc. I could be wrong though.
definitely is weak against fast CH characters yep, and those with good mixups. Think being -9 all the time is okay cuz its safe? think again, hellsweep, ff3 (kaz)
He does average damage for most of the game, then the chance to do one INSANELY DAMAGING combo with Zantetsu lv5 I think it's best to think of it as a once-per-match comeback mechanic rather than a part of his neutral toolkit Interesting design 😁
14:05 Clive has a steel pedal funnily enough because there is ground oki in ff16 as well for enemies, walk up to a grounded enemy and hold X or square clive will do a downward stab and then a steel pedal, however in this game it’s just a steel pedal. Now as for if he needs it idk if it’s op or not but just so you know it’s literally the same animation as clive’s steel pedal in game so it’s faithful
At this point they might as well do a spin off series with a hybrid of Soul Caliber and Devil May Cry with a hint of Tekken. This is clearly the direction they want to take. While I don't hate Clive but he doesn't fit in Tekken. Too much fantasy and over the top. If they're going to add a sword user why not someone that does fencing, kendo, gatka or eskrima. Would like to see grounded martial back in Tekken.
todo esta royo par ti no puede ser la generacion de cristal siempre llora . antes en tekken tag 1 era matar oh morir y ya . que prefieres que el personaje quite 5% con cada ataque o que sea fuerte .
Clive looks amazing. Kinda bummed out that his moves are usually on the slower side but that's a fine price to pay for range 3 sword normals lol 17:55 19f is reactable if you're really looking out for it but this is super hard. Basically the same situation as Kaz ff3 and Jin LLRK, albeit it might be a bit easier due to blue cape. Not downplaying this that's a crazy low
Oh man, another Soul Caliber character. It's frustrating when most characters fight without weapons. That's the essence of Tekken-fighting style vs. fighting style. Soul Caliber was all about weapons vs. weapons. Now here we go again with Noctis 2.0 or another Victor clone. The problems are: a) Without labbing him, you're going to lose 80% of your matchups. b) He's a DLC character, which means he's often overpowered at release before they nerf him (to prevent buyer's remorse). c) Being a DLC character, he's behind a paywall, which some casual players refuse to pay for. Overall, he is downplayed as A tier. He will be actually an S-Tier character because of his "strange" mechanics that breaks all the Tekken logic + his stupid paywall.
My man, it's cool you got this video up quick but you're throwing out the word "broken" waay too much, lol. For example, sidestep 1+2 is not broken. It's hella linear. Steppable both ways. It's a good move but far from broken. ff2 is not broken. It's very steppable both ways. b2 is not the best whiff punisher in the game. You can't combo from it even in heat, the heat move doesn't allow you to tornado after. Can't say it's the best whiff punisher in the game when moves like Jun f2,1+2 exist. That's only naming one. You didn't say ff2 was broken but I just want to mention that move is brain dead easy to step. Reminds me of Zafina's wr3. Slow and super linear. Broken to me is no counterplay. I might be missing the vibe here. Maybe you're just really excited about the character or you want to get others excited for him. I just don't want the crybaby army of Tekken players who see Clive and instantly say stuff like, "This isn't Tekken! WTF?", to have any fuel when it comes to shit talking this character.
I mean this constructively - there are WAY too many errors in this video and it feels like you rushed it out to be one of the first and quality control fell off the deep end. I'm not talking subtle frame inaccuracies - I'm saying you give the wrong notation for moves a bunch of times, you mix up on block and on hit a lot, that sort of thing. For a starter guide you're giving out far too much misinformation for the sake of speed and it's disappointing to see.
I was disappointed by the character reveal, and was so ready to hate this character. But after this guide all I could think was "...shit, he actually looks really fun."
Can’t wait to try out Nocti.. I mean Clive later 😆and despite all the backlash surrounding this character I have a feeling he’s gonna be pretty popular in ranked
I was disappointed it wasn't Tifa but glad Clive is in the game. He is looking too strong... Gonna buy him the level bundle and put those pesky devils in their place!
How are you guys feeling about Clive in Tekken 8 so far?
Every new character seems to have installs. It's a pretty lazy way to design characters in my opinion. Tekken 8 game play just doesn't feel as rewarding to me as 7 did. I play Tekken 8 almost everyday. I made it to Tekken God. I love Tekken but damn this game is hard to defend the direction they are taking things
Its easier to get high damage with clive than kuma or king (both mine are tekken gods)
F1+2 seems like the dumbest move to ever exist in tekken
@@raidennc his oki traps are gonna be fun
He has by far one of the most broken df1 in Tekken history. Its up there with Jin's from 3 and Feng in 5. First hit is -3 on block, the high extension
into the just frame is normal hit guaranteed and wall splats
Dude ain't been released a whole 24hrs and bro already got a beginners guide.
Gotta get them views
Ppl want the views so they be posting anything about Clive
everything is safe and every move does everything. ss1+2 being + on block, unseeable i19 ch low, ss22 being hitconfirmable for my grandpa, not being able to mess up db11 with all its features tbh just every move you talked about has something really fucking strong aboutt it, and he has all of them at once.. i hate it here. excellent video tho
I do think in offline settings we will see people reacting to his db4 since it has such a unique animation with the blue wings.
@@Snuredrams while i personally think that 19 frames is not really reactable even offline, given all the other stuff you gotta worry about. Lets assume it was reactable offline: that is irrelevant for 99.9% of players
It’s pretty incredible how faithful they made Clive even to the point everyone’s gonna be focusing on Odens Judgment Cut.
Odin’s Zantetsuken* put some respect on the Ashen King, The Warden of Darkness, Ultima’s Kash of Ash
@@shaquilleIVgoat
@@karmabased i’m sayin
Anna Williams bring her back
@@unseeninja83 wait til you find out that zantetsuken is the original judgement cut
among the strongest moves he has the most concerning is f1+2, that shouldnt track at all, it also becomes a hit confirmable heat dash launcher in heat, really OP move.
It’s like Bryan’s qcf1+2
Bs they doing crap in Tekken now
Sure tell that to law with everything that tracks on that guy 😂
Copying Ulsan's Tweet - This character is crazy...
Clive have
Devil jin. B4
Jun 1+2
Lars victor db4
Dragunov d2
Julia ws3
Victor r2 mindgame
Ff2 no punish CH combo
Side step1+2 +2 normal hit combo
Maybe more
The downplaying already I’m in a discord and people say he’s got low damage.
He kinda does I was testing him out on one of my friends ghost and was like damn kinda low damage
For the sample combos sure lol, he’s got pretty damn decent damage and hella good damage if he’s got Zan at 5. Just gotta give it a few hours and people will figure out the good shit lol
Shittt he does all 100 damage without and rage
Why do you think they are when everyone crying about a character before he’s even out then get the character nerfed while other characters get off Scott free
Yeah he kind of does just from doing big combos you can still only get no more than 75 to 78
Dude, idc what the "tekken is fistfight" purists have to say about this character, he's just so super fun and cool to play, and somewhat very familiar if you played 100+ hours of FF16. I can definitely see him getting nerfed very soon though.
I know right😂 he’s too strong for the tekken verse.
Thanks so much for this. Very helpful overview for someone who doesn’t have early access
He's so getting nerfed into oblivion later lmao
One other comment says he got low damage and one says he’s getting nerfed into oblivion… probably mean he’s balanced lmao 😂
@@DiabolicCrusher No this is the most mid tier character of all time, if you don't believe me just wait a few days for the tier lists to drop
@nerotv836 Wouldn't that kind of information tell you to maybe watch vids of people going through his move list in depth?
@@ShikiRyougi05 If you think he's mid teir, go watch Rsky Luck and Chadthethird.
@@ShikiRyougi05mid tier? Nah, he’s def Low A tier at the least.
My man! I was wondering who was gonna be the first with a good quick tip guide
His combo damages seem fine overall ? My biggest issue is how safe his moves are, paired with the range he has and his CH potential. He seems like a safer Victor with Bryan's CH abilities, with less damages but less frames aswell. Definitely gonna try and lab him extensively.
25:35 THATS A BARRR
One more thing you missed. Phoenix dash 1 is also guaranteed after b2. If you don’t want to go into heat yet and don’t care about Zan meter, this is the highest damage option.
20:34 it IS too good, it can be fully hitconfimed... unlike 2,2!
Nice breakdown. Might buy this guy
Y'all really wanted Tifa over this dude?
Look at how flashy his move set is
This is what DLC should be like
Listen I mainly wanted Tifa cause I hadn't even considered that My Boy Himself could be added, I'm absolutely THRILLED
@jameji_phd Most people wanted another martial artist 🥱🥱🥱
Tekken needs more than that as DLC but yeah Bandai cooked with this one.
No seriously she would’ve been boring icl
@@ImaNeedHalf Fellas would've forgotten about that chick and there would be nude mods on day 1
@@Abstrahues hentai lovers, tifa is nr3 most search anime char on phub i saw on a post
I blame you, I meet this clive player, dude sidestepping every single time, like, 20 time per second XD but tbh, facing clive is so freaking fun! Either if I lose or not, its still fun to face him so if people mad at you, just say skill issue to them :D
Damn that was quick
Great work! Looking forward to the combo guide.
Quick note that the phx 2,1 is a very good tool in his combos for a tornado option. Probably the only reason to use it.
People complaining about him... Y'all know he has more than 2 safe CH launchers, a lot of his moves has great range and tracking, literally every damn move that he does wallsplat, he can wall bound from damn miles away..... He has multiple combos that does more than 100 damage 😭😭 why y'all complaining
Personally i really liked Clive and FF16 so I’m pretty hyped to use him.
I'm sure being broken OP DLC character has nothing to do with it
Clive is just 😮💨
Bro has more resource managent in tekken than in ff16 LMAO
Not at all it's just a single meter compared to final fantasy having like 6 different resources to manage
Also, his df121 is a normal hit combo, a i14 punisher and great option to use after a quick sidestep into df1
Don't care about him waste of consumers time and money
Better they should of keep the previous final fantasy player
@@levicarrington2009 not even real english bruh, try again
Dawg u were flash speed uploading this video. Can't wait to try these when I get home from work!
They need to add option to disable the vfx
Rhere are 3 different levels of intensity for the vfx
How is that even going to work? You just see a black screen whenevr a cinematic is playing?
@@Jinkuzu brother there is a setting for that since launch 😭🙏
So fast! Great guide thank you
it seems like his flame dash stance 2 > 1 has a much larger hit confirm window than 2 - 2 and heals on hit rather than giving you meter, so that has value imo
The dude's only been out a couple hours lol.
Just a quick overview to get started 🤷♂️
Thanks for the quick guide king
Step 1: get your wallet ready for the next battle.
Step 2: win
I want Iron man to be in tekken and use jet blasters with maximum bloom and shiny effects that is safe on block and can teleport with 20 seconds animation so that we can put down our controller mid match when we get launched
Honestly, Im new to tekken, I have been playing Kaz from the launch and only other character that was kinda interesting to me was Jin and then Hei when he came out. But Clive... I'm really excited for him! I think maybe he's gonna replace Kaz az my new main for a while.
He’s like kunimitsu with the stances
I respect your grind
Great video and tutorial ❤ but none of that Devil Jin -6 on block stuff made me laugh 🤣. I hope they change Devil Jin abit in the next patch 🙏
Hey nice video can you do a video for his frame traps
Bs bringing back Anna Williams
Oversold another stance based bad pokes -13 low poke only overpowered cheese character. I regret buying this game.
He's seeming like a good archtype for new players, like a:
"If you don't small-tekken me, i'll freestyle on you" kinda character. Seems weak against characters with fast counter-hits, like Kazuya, King, Steve, Azucena, etc.
I could be wrong though.
definitely is weak against fast CH characters yep, and those with good mixups. Think being -9 all the time is okay cuz its safe? think again, hellsweep, ff3 (kaz)
Boogard tell me it is start of the end?
He does average damage for most of the game, then the chance to do one INSANELY DAMAGING combo with Zantetsu lv5
I think it's best to think of it as a once-per-match comeback mechanic rather than a part of his neutral toolkit
Interesting design 😁
It just does everything!
What buttons do you hit to use Clive's Zantetsuken for 80 damage or red sword? On Playstation?
Square+Circle
A lot of his moves are launch punishable, he has to be careful with his pressure. 💯
14:05 Clive has a steel pedal funnily enough because there is ground oki in ff16 as well for enemies, walk up to a grounded enemy and hold X or square clive will do a downward stab and then a steel pedal, however in this game it’s just a steel pedal. Now as for if he needs it idk if it’s op or not but just so you know it’s literally the same animation as clive’s steel pedal in game so it’s faithful
You missed df1,2,1 as his i14 punish
the Df1 heat string seems to be doing like nearly 0 chip damage for me
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you can delay SS 2, 1
Thx good video
Any 14f punish?
Df121 natural combo for almost 40 dmg
Does the fly stance parry yoshi sword sweep?
if he didnot but he will still low crush I think Im Also Going to Make video Will try that :)
At this point they might as well do a spin off series with a hybrid of Soul Caliber and Devil May Cry with a hint of Tekken. This is clearly the direction they want to take. While I don't hate Clive but he doesn't fit in Tekken. Too much fantasy and over the top. If they're going to add a sword user why not someone that does fencing, kendo, gatka or eskrima. Would like to see grounded martial back in Tekken.
His moves are so freaking slow I wouldn’t say great at poking
reminds me of tekken 7 Katarina
FIRE AND FLAME
Already? Damn son
Busted. Bad lows? D1 is fast and +2 and HC. What am I missing?
great more bs to deal with
16:26 Imagine a 10-frame orbital hahahaha.
bryan would be punching air man LMAO
FYI this is about start-up and not a frame on which it hits (that's 20f). Dunno about Bryan tho
clive orbitalmaxxed and mogged tf out of bryan
todo esta royo par ti no puede ser la generacion de cristal siempre llora . antes en tekken tag 1 era matar oh morir y ya . que prefieres que el personaje quite 5% con cada ataque o que sea fuerte .
tekken is getting out of hand
TEKKEN Jump Force
@@TheOneAndOnlySameLOL forgot about that game. Smash Bros comes to mind though.
ChatGPT ahh intro, tf u mean high damage 😭🙏
They gaved to hin gigas old 1,2 only with less dmg 😭
Another Clive guide let's go
Clive looks amazing. Kinda bummed out that his moves are usually on the slower side but that's a fine price to pay for range 3 sword normals lol
17:55 19f is reactable if you're really looking out for it but this is super hard. Basically the same situation as Kaz ff3 and Jin LLRK, albeit it might be a bit easier due to blue cape. Not downplaying this that's a crazy low
Just spam 2
tight
Damn slow down bro Wats the rush😂. Were u tryna speed run the video or sum😭. Going so fast
Sad to see tekken loosing its originality 😢
If there wasn't going to give us Tifa they should have given us someone like Kiryu or Majima from the Yakuza series.
Oh man, another Soul Caliber character. It's frustrating when most characters fight without weapons.
That's the essence of Tekken-fighting style vs. fighting style. Soul Caliber was all about weapons vs. weapons.
Now here we go again with Noctis 2.0 or another Victor clone.
The problems are:
a) Without labbing him, you're going to lose 80% of your matchups.
b) He's a DLC character, which means he's often overpowered at release before they nerf him (to prevent buyer's remorse).
c) Being a DLC character, he's behind a paywall, which some casual players refuse to pay for.
Overall, he is downplayed as A tier. He will be actually an S-Tier character because of his "strange" mechanics that breaks all the Tekken logic + his stupid paywall.
all i see is another obnoxiously braindead character. worse than victor when the game launched.
FF2 gaming
My man, it's cool you got this video up quick but you're throwing out the word "broken" waay too much, lol. For example, sidestep 1+2 is not broken. It's hella linear. Steppable both ways. It's a good move but far from broken.
ff2 is not broken. It's very steppable both ways.
b2 is not the best whiff punisher in the game. You can't combo from it even in heat, the heat move doesn't allow you to tornado after. Can't say it's the best whiff punisher in the game when moves like Jun f2,1+2 exist. That's only naming one.
You didn't say ff2 was broken but I just want to mention that move is brain dead easy to step. Reminds me of Zafina's wr3. Slow and super linear.
Broken to me is no counterplay.
I might be missing the vibe here. Maybe you're just really excited about the character or you want to get others excited for him. I just don't want the crybaby army of Tekken players who see Clive and instantly say stuff like, "This isn't Tekken! WTF?", to have any fuel when it comes to shit talking this character.
disgusting as expected
When can normies get access to him
19th I think
Should be the 19th
I mean this constructively - there are WAY too many errors in this video and it feels like you rushed it out to be one of the first and quality control fell off the deep end. I'm not talking subtle frame inaccuracies - I'm saying you give the wrong notation for moves a bunch of times, you mix up on block and on hit a lot, that sort of thing. For a starter guide you're giving out far too much misinformation for the sake of speed and it's disappointing to see.
You are "tekken king" scrub with JIN (top 5 char) what makes you think you're able to make guides?
Bro I was hoping he would be well balanced… this is not gonna help the hate
I was disappointed by the character reveal, and was so ready to hate this character. But after this guide all I could think was "...shit, he actually looks really fun."
He looks shit.
Tip for everyone lol 3 3 2
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jesus christ making a beginners guide before even knowing how to play the character is super fucking cringe lmaooooooooooooooooooooo
I love him already.
That's because you have shit tastes in everything
finally a updated victor
Why is the projectile a mid? Fudge.
Can’t wait to try out Nocti.. I mean Clive later 😆and despite all the backlash surrounding this character I have a feeling he’s gonna be pretty popular in ranked
This man feels fun asf
Boring as fuck
His lows suck as
Great. Another p2w character.
I was disappointed it wasn't Tifa but glad Clive is in the game. He is looking too strong... Gonna buy him the level bundle and put those pesky devils in their place!
Dude content is so boring. the charecter just dropped hours ago and you have a guide for "beginners"? Are you fr?
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What's the problem here?
This guide is meant for those thinking of buying the character, so please chill and don't be this salty.
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@@ahmedaldulimi5535 a guide for those who want to buy the character? how does that make any sense? you mean some kind of yelp review?