The slightly modified format is great, some first impressions straight from the beach, some specific tech talk in the studio. Keeps it interesting. And totally agree, N. Salas for „Stab in the Dark, Best Daily Driver 2020“
I’m 5’11 & 75kg. I just purchased this board in a 5’7 30L for surfing this summer here on the east coast of Australia 🇦🇺 I rode it for the first time yesterday in 1-2ft and it was MAGIC. It generates speed and power from literally nothing & and really digs and holds carves. The most fun I’ve had in a while! So excited to surf it all summer.
I've had three of these boards and I will say that Noel nails the characteristics to a tee. Spot on, with regards to flow, responsiveness, twin fin vs trailer, etc etc. The Cali twin would have to be one of the best boards I have ever ridden in 1 to 3 foot surf, all conditions. Such a versatile all round small wave board. Cheers Noel.
Hi Noel, I love my CA TWIN! I'm a beginner/Intermediate and this is the first board I've really clicked with. I love getting it on rail and the speed is just addicting. It has such an exhilarating combo of speed and stability. Coming from a skateboarding background, perhaps because I'm more of a front footed surfer it's easier for me to turn.
I have a similar board, after 15 years, still my fave with the trailer. Does not go well without the trailer. Equally good backside. Getting another one made soon. Great review.
Best board reviews out there can’t stand all these RUclipsrs that suck at surfing and don’t understand the dynamics of a board you shred and give one hell of a review wrapping cut backs on the MR looked sick
I was about to buy the Rocket Wide but after I saw this review I have doubts wich board would be the best for me. Between these two what do you think is better to improve surfing and start turning on 1-6 foot waves?. You are doing best reviews on YT, keep it up Noel!
PS: you looked like you had the Mark Richards flow. Twins are their own thing just like singles and good for the soul. Keep up the stoke and great reviews!
Noel gettin spicy in this review! Tellin folks to quit comparing the wrong shit haha...Good review. Already ordered one in carbon wrap in the 2+1 futures. Thanks for the fin recommendation Noel
What's the main difference between this board and RNF96? especially regarding paddling and wave size, looks like they both have the same volume/length and the same outline except for the wing.
Im 6ft, 170lbs, just got a MR cali twin at 5’7”x20.25”x2.4” 30L lghtspd construction w/ MR twin + trailer. First session it went well in knee to chest high(reef pointbreak). Second session it struggled in knee high side chop. But on a decent thigh high wave it flys and has a snappy pivoty feel. I think i could have gone up a liter or two as well because its loose due to the curvy tail rocker. I need to test it in 4 ft surf which i believe it will work best in 2-4ft surf. Or in 1-3ft punchy waves.
Tried it with no trailer and it was more faster out of bottom turns and it really liked the looseness of the pure twin in 1-1.5ft surf. Thinking about it now, if i could keep the length but go down in liters(1-2), while it may hinder paddling a bit, it would be a even more maneuverable. Definitely getting a better experience the more i ride it.
How the eff do you manage to catch lowers chest high and clean for every video is what I'm wondering. I'm hitting up mayhem for one of those things fo sho. Excellent as always thanks bro.
Hi Noel So similar but different which is the better board RNF96 or Cali Twin love to know your thoughts. Please please keep these coming absolutely love em. Want your some of your fins but shipping to a obscure town on the mid north coast of NSW Australia is crazy😢.
I have a similar shaped board by another shaper and for the intermediate surfer in typical so cal slop conditions I think this MR outline and twin plus trailer is the best type of board. Mine is pure magic. Lots of glide, forgiving, paddle-ability, but can still go vertical. And with a trailer there is minimal adjustment going back to your standard shortboard thruster when the waves pick up.
Bought one in Libtech construction for a travel board, and I think it’s a true one-board quiver. I’ve ridden it from 3-8ft surf, and it seems to work well in everything with the MR 2+1. I had the RNF 96, and actually prefer the Cali Twin Pin. I’d like to get your take on it.
@6:58 Your tail pad Tail "block" is straight massive. Major drag when board is on a hard rail and dragging a comp leash. Like the new format. On the beach.
Hey Noel. love your show, Aarron unreal videoing, its epic! Which do you recommend out of MR Cali Twin in PU or SharpeEye Modern 2 Fusion E2 as a twin + trailer set up. What stopped up making the Modern 2 from being a favourite even though you seemed stoked on the board?
I prefer the CA Twin... it’s faster and offers a little more performance compared to the Mod2. The Modern 2 is super fun but I felt like I want a little more flare in the design.
Both boards are amazing… the CA Twin might carry a little more down the line speed with a Twin + Trailer. However the 96 is my choice as a Pure Twin Fin for small wave shredding out of these two boards.
Hey Noel, love your work. Would you think this board works as well as a larger board?. I'm 5'11, 85 kilos, surf regulary but normaly on busy point breaks, so its competetive. Is the other end of the dims level going to translate into the same performance as you draw from the board you demo on this review. Thanks for any advise.
Noel, you had mentioned that you don't like it when a board goes flat on the wave face through turns. You said it's better when the rail holds and the board is on angle through the turn. Watching this video it seemed the board was going flat on the top turns. Am I seeing that right? Did you feel that way on the board?
Matt Clem The board felt good on rail... and I could hold it on rail through turns. Other boards that go flat start on rail and then go flat when I don’t want it too. If your seeing the board go flat.... then your seeing something I’m not. CA Twin felt solid with Twin Plus Trailer.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Ok thanks. When I first heard your comment about turns and the rail angle it became something I always watched for in your videos. I always look for boards with good drive and smooth performance rail work through turns. Maybe I'm mistaking the "twin fin top turn release aesthetic" with going flat. In a stab in the dark video Mick Fanning said he looks for a board that has good drive, and that he can lean on rail quickly and easily. Matt biolos said that the right board is one that allows you to make speed easily and allows you to do the turns you want to do. I suppose finding the right balance of speed and control depends on your ability and the wave type. Always learning so much from your show. It has been a huge help in putting the puzzle together. Thank you. One thing I keep thinking about. You say that you don't add liters on your grovelers because board design compensates for the smaller wave size. Many people tend to add liters on their grovelers, myself included. Do you think this could be because you always surf the same spot and the waves basically break the same way, with the same shape, just smaller? If you had a wave that didn't break down the line with good shape I would think you would want more volume. What do you think?
Matt Clem I never want to add foam if a board paddles good and has good glide. I like my boards quick and responsive... if I were surfing a beach break my Grovelers would go good there too.... still the same glide and paddle but a beach break will often have more punch or power and I still want to get into the lip quick. Adding foam to a Groveler makes them turn slow, disrupts flow, and have less performance.
loving these reviews and incredible surfing. After all the boards you have ridden what 3 boards (groveler, daily driver, and performance shortboard) are you taking with you if you had to travel the world with those 3 boards only for a year.
Awesome review Noel, you're a legend. I've been thinking a lot about buying this board and not sure if I should go for 5'6" 28.5L or 5'7" 30L. I'm 6'0, 152lbs 28 years old (16 years surfing) and have been riding this shortboards for last 2 years(Monstabox 5'10" 28.5 L, Channel Island Happy 5.11'' 27.58L). I want the MR Cali Twin with a bit more volume than what I usually ride, to give me that extra paddling power and be able to catch smaller waves and compete in crowded pointbreaks. My goal is still improve my technique and be able to generate lots of speed, a forgiving and soft surfing that gives me that cruisy and curvy turns, but also when waves are a bit more powerful I can surf it rail to rail without feeling that stiffness from high volume boards... Do you think I should go with more volume than usual (30L) or keep same volume (28.5L)? Thanks much!
Alberto Arias The 5’7” at 30 liters might be a bit much unless your used to shredding more foam on you Grovelers. The CA Twin is fast and loose and paddles great. I like my boards a bit more boards more sensitive so I would go 28.5 but if you want the extra float and cruise a bit go 30 liters.
Miso offers more rail engagement and surfs better in bigger waves…. It’s more of a daily driver. The CA Twin is a better Groveler and it’s faster down the line with less effort.
Nico Franco Astro POP is epic too... I like all the fin set ups the Astro POP can shred. Tough choice.... I say Astro POP. I really like riding Quads and a twin Plus Trailer. The AP can mix it up
Your backhand attack sells it for me. Backhand can be difficult to master on twins, quads, twinzers. You look really confident on those lefts. Also Im 5'8" and usually abt 195lbs not fat at all. I'll still try to surf with a mix of Richard Kenvin carve and more modern competitive style. I've been riding between 5'10 and 6'0. I feel like I need something that wont radius out of the pocket on typical sd waves. Something like this MR collab looks good here....but I'm afraid because of my weight to drop down to the lengths you're riding.
Hey Noel what size would you recommend for a 46 year old 185lbs. Latest board retro ripper 6.1 19.5 2.56 33-34 liter. Felt up the 5.9 @ 33.5l and felt good. But liters is not everything so do you think that if say sweet Spot for me is between 33.5-35 liter depending on plan-shape do you think I should get the 5.10 being 35l or 5.9 @ 33.5 Looking to use it in 1-4 feet daily driver/groveler. Again thanks for a great show!
Thanks Noel, I was waiting for your review on this board! Do you think this board would suit a beginner (catching waves but still not turning well) transitioning to intermediate level surfer? Thank you ande enjoy your Holidays!
Chris K Evil Twin doesn’t Pivot as well but it might carve a little better. The CA Twin is solid in the pocket and it offers a bit more performance. The Evil Twin has unlimited fin setup options.
Hey noel sick review as always i was just wondering if you are gonna do the cali twin pin by any chance ? Im keen to get one but your review will be the trigger puller cheers man 🤙🤙🙏🙏
Hello! Today just arrived my cali twin 5.10 and I have to put taction pad. It's my first twin and I don't know where tu put exactly the read pad. Have I allign the conjunction line betwin flat ank kick part of pad with the end of the base of the rear fin, as in a thruster?
Hi Noel thanks for the expert review...i know youre using the MR Twin + Trailer in performance core tech.Would you recommend the Neo Glass construction for these fins?
Fantastic Review as always. This MR twin and the Akila's contemporary fish (you reviewed a while ago) both look super spicy under your feet. And both seem targeting similar wave ranges and conditions. Do you have any thoughts on the technical differences and preferable conditions of these two models?
Koichi Hashikawa The MR can handle more size and a little easier to surf. Both are fast though!! The Akila Aipa Winged Twin we’re dropping in two days is next level.
My HP Keels might go good.... however the CA Twin fin boxes are pretty far forward and most Twin Sets will feel to loose and slide around too much in waves over 2’. Here is a link to my HP Keels that I made with Naked Viking. www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/surf-n-show-hp-keels-twin-fins
Always spectacular reviews, I notice between a number of reviews how much you love the Al Merrick keels, and seem to struggle finding a similar set up for FCS, have you tried the Rob Machado keels? They’re fin specs are not outrageously different but haven’t had a chance to hold them up side by side or surf each for comparison to say for sure. Wondering whether you’ve surfed the RMs and how you thought they went?
Great review do you think this board would be a good one to up size ? I am an older bloke and use a boards a little big to make life easy, at 65kg I use approx 28 litre boards. Some boards are pigs when using too much volume .
Shredding Dude! Ahahahhaha, the Blokes who want You to Cruise may have to wait a decade or Two? Beauty Noel, the Full Shape of modded 80s, just Eyecandy. Unreal Review. Anchors Away SnSR
Looks great on those easy to surf waves you guys get there good to know how it goes in those step more powerful little 2 to 5 foot beaches in Western Australia 👍🏽
Awesome review and awesome surfing! Been eyeing this board for a few months, think I'm going to have to pic one up. Just out of curiosity, Have you tried this board as a thruster yet? Maybe something with a slightly smaller center fin? Don't get me wrong, MR twin+trailer is one of my fav. fins, but just wondering how this board would go with a more conventional 3 fin set.
Surf n Show Reviews thanks, also I’m budget conscious and the spinetek is more expensive than PU, and do you think it is worth investing more money to get the Spinetek
Hi Noel! I always learn something helpful on these reviews and really just enjoy watching you break down the relevant aspects of each one. I hope this is a fair comparison to make in your eyes...I surf mostly twinies and want something with a little extra performance in 1-4 foot surf and have been stuck between the ultra joe and MR california twin (considering both in the 2+1 setup). Any suggestion as to which one would allow for more performance oriented surfing? Thanks again!
Noel so psyched going to put in the order tomorrow! I’m hoping for one last piece of advice. 5’6” is the right length for me but just a tad under volume stock. Would you recommend ordering custom just slightly thicker in PU or keep stock dims and go for something like the carbon wrap or C4 construction? I’ll mostly be surfing it at Cardiff reef and Swamis.
Ca twin vs puddle jumper hp? From the videos it seems that the ca twin is way faster but still veery maneuverable. What's your suggestion for average and not steep waves?
Watching some of your past reviews, a couple times you mention that your go to fin size for small waves is large, especially on HPSBs - is this to give you increased drive / speed? Do you go with more or less flexible fins when going large in small waves?
ewillens Yes I like a Large fin in smaller waves to increase drive and speed. I choose a Large fin in my Grovelers too.... and yes I like a fin with a little more flex to increase projection or pop in my turns when the waves are weak. Stiff fins work best in bigger or more powerful surf, and fins with a bit of flex are better in smaller surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777He can surf large because he uses Very low liters board/very maneuverable already. Same size guy with less skillful surfer with bigger board would need medium fin.
Jon Kennard Twin Plus trailer = CA Twin, Straight Twin Fin = Black Baron. Our next review is the Akila Aipa Winged Twin and it rivals the CA Twin with a Trailer and the Black Baron as a Twin Fin.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks noel. Its interesting watching you develop riding the twin fins. I remember the first one you rode and how alien it wa to begin with. Thanks as always Jon🤙. P.s when you surfing the u.k?
Hey mate, another rad vid. If you were choosing a board for smaller beachies or points, would you pick this or a puddle jumper or a machado seaside? I'm looking for a fun board that covers most if not all bases
It's nice to see the process you do over time with the reviews. In the beginning, you were a short guy, and over time, your style seems to open to new design that you used to love less in the past..
Hi, a just saw this! (im a intermediate/ beginner surfer( great review! i wanted to buy my first surfboard ( a fish as i find them the mist fitting to me) im about 162cm and 58kg . i wasn't sure how tall the board should be in comparison to my height for a fish board. if i wanted to by the LostXMR board,which height would you suggest i go for? thanks!
Hi Noel I took your recommendation for booties and went to go look for Xcel dry locks. My daughter Doesn’t like booties because she can never find your size and I never thought of dry locks.I went to my local surf shop and didn’t find any in half sizes. And I also went online and looked everywhere looking for half size because She would be a 5 1/2. How are you able to access half sizes I can’t find them anywhere? Thanks for the video and hope to hear from you
I’ve had a couple heavy ones come through for review and I gave them back and ordered new ones. I like my Lost PU/Poly’s with Proformance glass to keep them light and high performance.
Hi Noel , first of all Congrats for the excellent reviews, Great Show and Great Surfing ! I´m 5´9 74 Kg 42 years been Surfing, been surfing for 15 years, have been the last 4 years without surfing, 4 knee cirurgies and i have back cirurgie im 2010, back to surfing last summer i have pain but the things are more controled now and im able to surf, i do mainly cutbacks, roundhouses, ocasional top turns, before all these i use 27 liters boards, i have to sold them all, by now i have a JS BlackBox 3 ( 5´9 ) in 29 liters but i still struggle a litle to paddle , i want this board badly, want a twin that stil performs , just want to size it right without losing performance but the padle ability due to my problems is very importante, shoul i go 5´7 in 30 liters or 5´8 32 liters or should i go custom ? Any sugestions ? Thanks in advance
Carlos Rodrigues I say go 5’8” and get your paddle strength back. Once you got that then start heading down on liters. I think ideal liters for you is 29-30 but right now go 31-32.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel for advice, im afraid losing too much performance and the board is a litle wide , usually never go with 20 plus width . How do you compare this board with Ci Fishbeard my second option ? I think stock 5'9 will be spot on for me, but is the lenght on this kind of board that worries me and the limited option on the Merrick keels only option to Ride it as a pure Twin, not sure it will work for me , always love the MR + trailer option . Thanks again
Carlos Rodrigues CA Twin is a Twin + Trailer so it will Pivot Better. The FB is a legitimate Performance Twin Fin with no trailer option. Both boards are epic.... if you want a true Twin Fin then go FB, if your want a little more pivot then go MR CA Twin. Pretty simple... don’t make it difficult by trying to compare two completely different boards. A Twin + Trailer is not a true Twin Fin in my book. The Trailer is like riding a bike with training wheels... super fun but with the extra speed and hold... it also has a bit of drag too.
Daniel T The T2 is the closest on the Futures website. Sorry if it not there.... I really like the Futures T1 or the Akila Aipa Twins.... but you will need to purchase a trailer to pair with Akila’s. They are sold as a Twin Fin set only
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you! I really like the way the Akila looks I'll take stab at them and get a trailer I think. I think I wanna try on my rad ripper and retro ripper I have heard the retro with twin + trailer is awesome as well. Did you ever tried the radR with twin + trailer
The slightly modified format is great, some first impressions straight from the beach, some specific tech talk in the studio. Keeps it interesting. And totally agree, N. Salas for „Stab in the Dark, Best Daily Driver 2020“
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I’m 5’11 & 75kg. I just purchased this board in a 5’7 30L for surfing this summer here on the east coast of Australia 🇦🇺
I rode it for the first time yesterday in 1-2ft and it was MAGIC. It generates speed and power from literally nothing & and really digs and holds carves.
The most fun I’ve had in a while! So excited to surf it all summer.
@CcLonny Thank you for sharing:)
I've had three of these boards and I will say that Noel nails the characteristics to a tee. Spot on, with regards to flow, responsiveness, twin fin vs trailer, etc etc. The Cali twin would have to be one of the best boards I have ever ridden in 1 to 3 foot surf, all conditions. Such a versatile all round small wave board. Cheers Noel.
Cheers for posting your experience with this model. It helps many!!!
Hi Noel, I love my CA TWIN! I'm a beginner/Intermediate and this is the first board I've really clicked with. I love getting it on rail and the speed is just addicting. It has such an exhilarating combo of speed and stability. Coming from a skateboarding background, perhaps because I'm more of a front footed surfer it's easier for me to turn.
Shasta Dragon Great post... CA Twin is epic
Shasta Dragon what volume did you go with for being beginner/intermediate?
@@jkangpolo I'm 5'11" and 180lbs. I got the 6'2" with 41.50 L and yes I can just barely duck dive it.
I have a similar board, after 15 years, still my fave with the trailer. Does not go well without the trailer. Equally good backside. Getting another one made soon. Great review.
Best board reviews out there can’t stand all these RUclipsrs that suck at surfing and don’t understand the dynamics of a board you shred and give one hell of a review wrapping cut backs on the MR looked sick
Just got one of these last week, waves are firing tomorrow, this reviews got me pumped :-)
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I was about to buy the Rocket Wide but after I saw this review I have doubts wich board would be the best for me. Between these two what do you think is better to improve surfing and start turning on 1-6 foot waves?.
You are doing best reviews on YT, keep it up Noel!
The best surf reviews on internet. It really helps to make a desition on wich board to buy. Cheers 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Ha! I rode my Lost RV with MR fins & a nubster a few times when the board came out. I must have really wanted this board - 2 big thumbs up!!
PS: you looked like you had the Mark Richards flow. Twins are their own thing just like singles and good for the soul. Keep up the stoke and great reviews!
Noel gettin spicy in this review! Tellin folks to quit comparing the wrong shit haha...Good review. Already ordered one in carbon wrap in the 2+1 futures. Thanks for the fin recommendation Noel
Best board reviews. Precise, analytical and to the point. Thanks Noel!
What's the main difference between this board and RNF96? especially regarding paddling and wave size, looks like they both have the same volume/length and the same outline except for the wing.
Im 6ft, 170lbs, just got a MR cali twin at 5’7”x20.25”x2.4” 30L lghtspd construction w/ MR twin + trailer. First session it went well in knee to chest high(reef pointbreak). Second session it struggled in knee high side chop. But on a decent thigh high wave it flys and has a snappy pivoty feel. I think i could have gone up a liter or two as well because its loose due to the curvy tail rocker. I need to test it in 4 ft surf which i believe it will work best in 2-4ft surf. Or in 1-3ft punchy waves.
@@checkmate7312 Thanks for posting. Please keep updating us on your experience with this board and your volume comments.
Tried it with no trailer and it was more faster out of bottom turns and it really liked the looseness of the pure twin in 1-1.5ft surf. Thinking about it now, if i could keep the length but go down in liters(1-2), while it may hinder paddling a bit, it would be a even more maneuverable. Definitely getting a better experience the more i ride it.
How the eff do you manage to catch lowers chest high and clean for every video is what I'm wondering. I'm hitting up mayhem for one of those things fo sho. Excellent as always thanks bro.
Hi Noel
So similar but different which is the better board RNF96 or Cali Twin love to know your thoughts.
Please please keep these coming absolutely love em. Want your some of your fins but shipping to a obscure town on the mid north coast of NSW Australia is crazy😢.
I've owned both. Just bought my 3rd Cali Twin. That should answer your question!
I have a similar shaped board by another shaper and for the intermediate surfer in typical so cal slop conditions I think this MR outline and twin plus trailer is the best type of board. Mine is pure magic. Lots of glide, forgiving, paddle-ability, but can still go vertical. And with a trailer there is minimal adjustment going back to your standard shortboard thruster when the waves pick up.
Backside looking good with this board.
Great review! Still waiting for the FW Evo review Noel.
Ken Kohncke I keep asking FW for it... just texted them yesterday again.
Yes. I would love to see Noel on the Evo. Please.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 , Ok, keep on to 'em.
Nice review, your video editing is solid. Sick board.
Are you planning to review the Cali twin pin? I’m interested how it stacks-up.
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Bought one in Libtech construction for a travel board, and I think it’s a true one-board quiver. I’ve ridden it from 3-8ft surf, and it seems to work well in everything with the MR 2+1. I had the RNF 96, and actually prefer the Cali Twin Pin. I’d like to get your take on it.
Hi Noel. What would you prefer. This board or Astro pop for 1-3ft
Astro Pop
How does it compare to the black baron?
@6:58 Your tail pad Tail "block" is straight massive. Major drag when board is on a hard rail and dragging a comp leash. Like the new format. On the beach.
Hey Noel. love your show, Aarron unreal videoing, its epic! Which do you recommend out of MR Cali Twin in PU or SharpeEye Modern 2 Fusion E2 as a twin + trailer set up. What stopped up making the Modern 2 from being a favourite even though you seemed stoked on the board?
I prefer the CA Twin... it’s faster and offers a little more performance compared to the Mod2.
The Modern 2 is super fun but I felt like I want a little more flare in the design.
Hey Noel- Would you go RNF 96 or Cali twin for performance in micro waves. Thx you
Both boards are amazing… the CA Twin might carry a little more down the line speed with a Twin + Trailer. However the 96 is my choice as a Pure Twin Fin for small wave shredding out of these two boards.
I really like this format for the review. You should include it in future reviews. If I were buying a new board, this is what I would buy.
Matthew Orrison Sick.. thanks we will try to incorporate more of this style
Noel, where are the front fins positioned? How far up? Like a Thurster @ 11”: from Tail Tip? You must try one of my HAWAIIANBUILT CLUSTER QUADs
Not sure sorry
ha, so, after watching 45 reviews, every board surfs great... lol... Now - I should test each board with you --
Hey Noel, love your work. Would you think this board works as well as a larger board?. I'm 5'11, 85 kilos, surf regulary but normaly on busy point breaks, so its competetive. Is the other end of the dims level going to translate into the same performance as you draw from the board you demo on this review. Thanks for any advise.
Noel, you had mentioned that you don't like it when a board goes flat on the wave face through turns. You said it's better when the rail holds and the board is on angle through the turn. Watching this video it seemed the board was going flat on the top turns. Am I seeing that right? Did you feel that way on the board?
Matt Clem The board felt good on rail... and I could hold it on rail through turns. Other boards that go flat start on rail and then go flat when I don’t want it too. If your seeing the board go flat.... then your seeing something I’m not. CA Twin felt solid with Twin Plus Trailer.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Ok thanks. When I first heard your comment about turns and the rail angle it became something I always watched for in your videos. I always look for boards with good drive and smooth performance rail work through turns. Maybe I'm mistaking the "twin fin top turn release aesthetic" with going flat. In a stab in the dark video Mick Fanning said he looks for a board that has good drive, and that he can lean on rail quickly and easily. Matt biolos said that the right board is one that allows you to make speed easily and allows you to do the turns you want to do. I suppose finding the right balance of speed and control depends on your ability and the wave type. Always learning so much from your show. It has been a huge help in putting the puzzle together. Thank you.
One thing I keep thinking about. You say that you don't add liters on your grovelers because board design compensates for the smaller wave size. Many people tend to add liters on their grovelers, myself included. Do you think this could be because you always surf the same spot and the waves basically break the same way, with the same shape, just smaller? If you had a wave that didn't break down the line with good shape I would think you would want more volume. What do you think?
Matt Clem I never want to add foam if a board paddles good and has good glide. I like my boards quick and responsive... if I were surfing a beach break my Grovelers would go good there too.... still the same glide and paddle but a beach break will often have more punch or power and I still want to get into the lip quick. Adding foam to a Groveler makes them turn slow, disrupts flow, and have less performance.
loving these reviews and incredible surfing. After all the boards you have ridden what 3 boards (groveler, daily driver, and performance shortboard) are you taking with you if you had to travel the world with those 3 boards only for a year.
smac22 Tough one... Akila Aipa Winged Twin, (Review drops next Monday) NB2, Ghost.
Would you ever do a Chris Christenson fish review??? I’d LOVE to hear your expert breakdown of that unholy Lil stump.
Jason Glover Sure... his boards look good.
Awesome review Noel, you're a legend. I've been thinking a lot about buying this board and not sure if I should go for 5'6" 28.5L or 5'7" 30L. I'm 6'0, 152lbs 28 years old (16 years surfing) and have been riding this shortboards for last 2 years(Monstabox 5'10" 28.5 L, Channel Island Happy 5.11'' 27.58L).
I want the MR Cali Twin with a bit more volume than what I usually ride, to give me that extra paddling power and be able to catch smaller waves and compete in crowded pointbreaks. My goal is still improve my technique and be able to generate lots of speed, a forgiving and soft surfing that gives me that cruisy and curvy turns, but also when waves are a bit more powerful I can surf it rail to rail without feeling that stiffness from high volume boards...
Do you think I should go with more volume than usual (30L) or keep same volume (28.5L)?
Thanks much!
Alberto Arias The 5’7” at 30 liters might be a bit much unless your used to shredding more foam on you Grovelers. The CA Twin is fast and loose and paddles great. I like my boards a bit more boards more sensitive so I would go 28.5 but if you want the extra float and cruise a bit go 30 liters.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks so much for your reply, makes total sense, will go with 5'6''' then. Cheers!
This id love to hear a comparison to the rusty miso
Miso offers more rail engagement and surfs better in bigger waves…. It’s more of a daily driver.
The CA Twin is a better Groveler and it’s faster down the line with less effort.
how does this one compare to the Astro Pop? What would you choose? Thanks!
Nico Franco Astro POP is epic too... I like all the fin set ups the Astro POP can shred. Tough choice.... I say Astro POP. I really like riding Quads and a twin Plus Trailer. The AP can mix it up
Surf n Show Reviews , just a quick thank you for indulging our 1k ‘how does it compare to’ questions. I was also wondering about the AP comparison 😉
Your backhand attack sells it for me. Backhand can be difficult to master on twins, quads, twinzers. You look really confident on those lefts.
Also Im 5'8" and usually abt 195lbs not fat at all. I'll still try to surf with a mix of Richard Kenvin carve and more modern competitive style. I've been riding between 5'10 and 6'0.
I feel like I need something that wont radius out of the pocket on typical sd waves.
Something like this MR collab looks good here....but I'm afraid because of my weight to drop down to the lengths you're riding.
IzandEva Inmyheart I used to be concerned about how short these board are.... now I love them. So fun.... like riding a skateboard
@@surfnshowreviews7777 yeah next one will be shorter. No more cheating
Also a guy at Swamis was raving about his new MR today
Hey Noel what size would you recommend for a 46 year old 185lbs. Latest board retro ripper 6.1 19.5 2.56 33-34 liter. Felt up the 5.9 @ 33.5l and felt good. But liters is not everything so do you think that if say sweet Spot for me is between 33.5-35 liter depending on plan-shape do you think I should get the 5.10 being 35l or 5.9 @ 33.5 Looking to use it in 1-4 feet daily driver/groveler.
Again thanks for a great show!
Daniel T Ideal liters for your weight 32-33 liters so go 5’9”. 35 liters is way to much.
Thanks a bunch! I hope you get residual for boards sold. Like if I where to hashtag you and the store or place. Happy holidays!
Thanks Noel, I was waiting for your review on this board!
Do you think this board would suit a beginner (catching waves but still not turning well) transitioning to intermediate level surfer?
Thank you ande enjoy your Holidays!
livemoksha Yes.. just make it easy on yourself and get it wide and with good volume for flotation and easy wave catching
What differences did you notice between the CA Twin versus the Evil Twin, using the same 2+1 setup? Thanks!
Chris K Evil Twin doesn’t Pivot as well but it might carve a little better. The CA Twin is solid in the pocket and it offers a bit more performance. The Evil Twin has unlimited fin setup options.
Surf n Show Reviews Thanks for the reply. Have my eye on those two models, and both look like they go great. Might have to give this one a go. Thanks!
Hey noel sick review as always i was just wondering if you are gonna do the cali twin pin by any chance ? Im keen to get one but your review will be the trigger puller cheers man 🤙🤙🙏🙏
Hello! Today just arrived my cali twin 5.10 and I have to put taction pad. It's my first twin and I don't know where tu put exactly the read pad.
Have I allign the conjunction line betwin flat ank kick part of pad with the end of the base of the rear fin, as in a thruster?
Push the pad as far as possible…. I like mine up against the leash plug if possible
Hi Noel thanks for the expert review...i know youre using the MR Twin + Trailer in performance core tech.Would you recommend the Neo Glass construction for these fins?
Ryan The Rock Sure if the waves are small and weak. I suggest the PC Tech though...
Fantastic Review as always.
This MR twin and the Akila's contemporary fish (you reviewed a while ago) both look super spicy under your feet.
And both seem targeting similar wave ranges and conditions.
Do you have any thoughts on the technical differences and preferable conditions of these two models?
Koichi Hashikawa The MR can handle more size and a little easier to surf. Both are fast though!! The Akila Aipa Winged Twin we’re dropping in two days is next level.
Just wondering if you could recommend any straight twin set for this board from NVS. Thanks for the review again!
My HP Keels might go good.... however the CA Twin fin boxes are pretty far forward and most Twin Sets will feel to loose and slide around too much in waves over 2’. Here is a link to my HP Keels that I made with Naked Viking.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/surf-n-show-hp-keels-twin-fins
Always spectacular reviews, I notice between a number of reviews how much you love the Al Merrick keels, and seem to struggle finding a similar set up for FCS, have you tried the Rob Machado keels? They’re fin specs are not outrageously different but haven’t had a chance to hold them up side by side or surf each for comparison to say for sure. Wondering whether you’ve surfed the RMs and how you thought they went?
Nick Hewett I have not tried them yet. Maybe I will get the chance soon.
Great review do you think this board would be a good one to up size ? I am an older bloke and use a boards a little big to make life easy, at 65kg I use approx 28 litre boards. Some boards are pigs when using too much volume .
Jeff Adams Yes... you can size it up a little.
thanks Noel 5'6" it is.
Shredding Dude!
Ahahahhaha, the Blokes who want You to Cruise may have to wait a decade or Two?
Beauty Noel, the Full Shape of modded 80s, just Eyecandy.
Unreal Review. Anchors Away SnSR
Looks great on those easy to surf waves you guys get there good to know how it goes in those step more powerful little 2 to 5 foot beaches in Western Australia 👍🏽
Awesome review and awesome surfing! Been eyeing this board for a few months, think I'm going to have to pic one up.
Just out of curiosity, Have you tried this board as a thruster yet? Maybe something with a slightly smaller center fin? Don't get me wrong, MR twin+trailer is one of my fav. fins, but just wondering how this board would go with a more conventional 3 fin set.
Royce F I did NOT try it as a Thruster... give it a go and let us all know how it goes.
Great review Noel!..You surfed that board great!
Hey Noel love your videos,
Would you recommend the Neckbeard 2 as a daily driver ?
Ben Dunlop Absolutely one of my all time Favorites
Surf n Show Reviews thanks, also I’m budget conscious and the spinetek is more expensive than PU, and do you think it is worth investing more money to get the Spinetek
Ben Dunlop A bit more pop and it will last longer. If you surf a lot of choppy or windy surf then go PU
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Cooll!!!
I just ordered a NB2
How does 2+1 compare to straight thruster set-up? (I've ridden thruster/quad*/twin but never 2+1) thanks! *Favourite.
Family Fun Twin Fin speed and a bit more drive compared to Thruster.... the Trailer offers pivot and traction
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel. Love your work. Big up from Wales 🤙
Thanks Noel, your surfing style is dope!
Cheers
that board looks sick reminds me of the hi 5
cat in The High 5 is a cruiser compared to the CA Twin
Hi Noel! I always learn something helpful on these reviews and really just enjoy watching you break down the relevant aspects of each one. I hope this is a fair comparison to make in your eyes...I surf mostly twinies and want something with a little extra performance in 1-4 foot surf and have been stuck between the ultra joe and MR california twin (considering both in the 2+1 setup). Any suggestion as to which one would allow for more performance oriented surfing? Thanks again!
Steven Ellis Both boards are epic... I suggest the Lost/MR CA Twin. It’s truly designed for that set up and it will go better for you.
Thanks for the advice Noel! I really appreciate the work your doing, look forward seeing more content!
Noel so psyched going to put in the order tomorrow! I’m hoping for one last piece of advice. 5’6” is the right length for me but just a tad under volume stock. Would you recommend ordering custom just slightly thicker in PU or keep stock dims and go for something like the carbon wrap or C4 construction? I’ll mostly be surfing it at Cardiff reef and Swamis.
Steven Ellis Go stock in CW or C4
Thanks Noel, you’re the man. You are the best in the board review game, you rip and you have the voice of the super smooth DJ legend Casey Kasem.
What fins would you recommend for futures set up in 2+1?
Akila Aipa Twins with my Stabilizer. Here is a link to my Stabilizer.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/all/products/momentum-series-stabilizer
Hey Noel. Love your work and bought some good boards based on recommendations!
Have you surfed the Lost MR Cali Twin Pin yet? Thoughts?
Yes… it’s got good hold and drive. Good for hollow Beachies or waves with a bit more power. I prefer the MR/Cali Twin Swallow tail for So Cal waves.
Great thanks !!
Ca twin vs puddle jumper hp? From the videos it seems that the ca twin is way faster but still veery maneuverable. What's your suggestion for average and not steep waves?
G,Day Noel what would be your preference between the Cali twin and the Rocket Wide,great reviews cheers
Sandy Taylor RW offers more performance in the pocket... CA Twin paddles better and it’s faster. CA Twin will grovels better too
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks mate being an older bloke the CA sounds like the go, really enjoy watching your reviews Cheers
had the same question, thanks !
Range board 1 to 4 ft ? Happy new year Mr.Surf&Show
Antoine Meignan Range... 1-5’. Happy New Year
Watching some of your past reviews, a couple times you mention that your go to fin size for small waves is large, especially on HPSBs - is this to give you increased drive / speed? Do you go with more or less flexible fins when going large in small waves?
ewillens Yes I like a Large fin in smaller waves to increase drive and speed. I choose a Large fin in my Grovelers too.... and yes I like a fin with a little more flex to increase projection or pop in my turns when the waves are weak. Stiff fins work best in bigger or more powerful surf, and fins with a bit of flex are better in smaller surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777He can surf large because he uses Very low liters board/very maneuverable already. Same size guy with less skillful surfer with bigger board would need medium fin.
Would you prefer a pod mod or california twin as a travel board for medium size waves? Thx
I prefer the Pod Pod. More radical in the pocket.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thx! ...and pod mod or astro pop? (Thats my last question)
@@danieljakubowski7639 PM offers more performance in the pocket but AP might be a little faster down the line
Noel which twin fin is your no 1 out of those you've now ridden? Thanks Jon
Jon Kennard Twin Plus trailer = CA Twin, Straight Twin Fin = Black Baron. Our next review is the Akila Aipa Winged Twin and it rivals the CA Twin with a Trailer and the Black Baron as a Twin Fin.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks noel. Its interesting watching you develop riding the twin fins. I remember the first one you rode and how alien it wa to begin with. Thanks as always Jon🤙. P.s when you surfing the u.k?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 that was helpful!
Hey mate, another rad vid. If you were choosing a board for smaller beachies or points, would you pick this or a puddle jumper or a machado seaside? I'm looking for a fun board that covers most if not all bases
Which would be better for mushy 2-5ft Florida surf, Uber XL or MR Cali Twin?
MR will grovel better
Awesome video. Im ready to go get a couple waves after watching that. What song is that though? cant find it anywhere
MauiMax SurfandSpear Reach our to the band on Insta at @lighterburnsband.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks, found it
Great one, Tnx. Have you tried standard thruster fin set?
Oshri Sudri Nope... I am addicted to speed so I stayed with Twin Fin and Twin + Trailer
It's nice to see the process you do over time with the reviews. In the beginning, you were a short guy, and over time, your style seems to open to new design that you used to love less in the past..
What’s difference between lost rnf 96 and mr twin?
@@julzylil 96 is a 1 board quiver… it shreds everything from 1-8’ surf. The MR Twin is more of a Groveler to head high surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 roger thanks legend!! Hi from Lennox head Australia 🇦🇺
Hi, a just saw this! (im a intermediate/ beginner surfer( great review! i wanted to buy my first surfboard ( a fish as i find them the mist fitting to me) im about 162cm and 58kg . i wasn't sure how tall the board should be in comparison to my height for a fish board. if i wanted to by the LostXMR board,which height would you suggest i go for? thanks!
Really depends on the volume for you… I say roughly 28-30L.
Hi Noel I took your recommendation for booties and went to go look for Xcel dry locks. My daughter Doesn’t like booties because she can never find your size and I never thought of dry locks.I went to my local surf shop and didn’t find any in half sizes. And I also went online and looked everywhere looking for half size because She would be a 5 1/2.
How are you able to access half sizes I can’t find them anywhere? Thanks for the video and hope to hear from you
Do lost polys feel heavy to you ?
I’ve had a couple heavy ones come through for review and I gave them back and ordered new ones. I like my Lost PU/Poly’s with Proformance glass to keep them light and high performance.
thats a good question !
is there a fin you recommend on this board as a thruster?
Not sure... it’s meant to be ridden as a Twin + Trailer. Maybe go Large Merrick sides and small pivot center fin
I’m 75kg 5.10 riding a xanadu piglet 29.4 litres wanting a cali twin light speed. What size would you recommend please?
Hi Noel , first of all Congrats for the excellent reviews, Great Show and Great Surfing ! I´m 5´9 74 Kg 42 years been Surfing, been surfing for 15 years, have been the last 4 years without surfing, 4 knee cirurgies and i have back cirurgie im 2010, back to surfing last summer i have pain but the things are more controled now and im able to surf, i do mainly cutbacks, roundhouses, ocasional top turns, before all these i use 27 liters boards, i have to sold them all, by now i have a JS BlackBox 3 ( 5´9 ) in 29 liters but i still struggle a litle to paddle , i want this board badly, want a twin that stil performs , just want to size it right without losing performance but the padle ability due to my problems is very importante, shoul i go 5´7 in 30 liters or 5´8 32 liters or should i go custom ? Any sugestions ? Thanks in advance
Carlos Rodrigues I say go 5’8” and get your paddle strength back. Once you got that then start heading down on liters. I think ideal liters for you is 29-30 but right now go 31-32.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel for advice, im afraid losing too much performance and the board is a litle wide , usually never go with 20 plus width . How do you compare this board with Ci Fishbeard my second option ? I think stock 5'9 will be spot on for me, but is the lenght on this kind of board that worries me and the limited option on the Merrick keels only option to Ride it as a pure Twin, not sure it will work for me , always love the MR + trailer option . Thanks again
Carlos Rodrigues The FB is a pure Twin Fin and you can use other twin fin sets like the EN’s etc...
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hey Noel the 1 millions dolars question :) wich one do you choose ? I surf mainly point breaks , Lost MR or Ci Fishbeard ?
Carlos Rodrigues CA Twin is a Twin + Trailer so it will Pivot Better. The FB is a legitimate Performance Twin Fin with no trailer option. Both boards are epic.... if you want a true Twin Fin then go FB, if your want a little more pivot then go MR CA Twin. Pretty simple... don’t make it difficult by trying to compare two completely different boards. A Twin + Trailer is not a true Twin Fin in my book. The Trailer is like riding a bike with training wheels... super fun but with the extra speed and hold... it also has a bit of drag too.
Looks like a fun board. :)
I cant find the future fin you are mentioning on futures web page could you help me out or recommend another template thats close to the MR in future.
Daniel T The T2 is the closest on the Futures website. Sorry if it not there.... I really like the Futures T1 or the Akila Aipa Twins.... but you will need to purchase a trailer to pair with Akila’s. They are sold as a Twin Fin set only
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you! I really like the way the Akila looks I'll take stab at them and get a trailer I think. I think I wanna try on my rad ripper and retro ripper I have heard the retro with twin + trailer is awesome as well. Did you ever tried the radR with twin + trailer
Hi Noel. How does this compare to the CI twin fin?
6’1 180lb what size would you say ?
Pro/Expert 29-31L
Advanced 31-33L
Intermediate 34-36L
Where could i find this in PU in USA? I have been looking up for a month now.
Great review, thanks!
what would be the equivalent MR fins for a future set up?
Jack Luquer Futures T2 with the TT1 Trailer.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks
I wonder how that would work as a quad set up
I voted for you
HardFlip Mike Thank u
you could win 4 world titles on that board.,,,if you try real hard ,
If you buy that board, you’ll surf just like him!
I didn't see any posts say you surf all the boards the same...bummer...i love when people talk shit.
Without that trailer fin it looked awful.
looks no different than the twin CI made .....
zachariahm10 They surf nothing alike. The CA Twin paddles better and offers more performance
Please Review Hypto Krypto!
Eduardo Omena Trying to get a couple now. Hang tight... lots of requests for the HK