A huge plus with the Canon P is the 1:1 viewfinder; the Leica M2's is 0.75. Canon outshone Leica with the P and sold more cameras. For price, features and sheer beauty, the P wins hands down. No wonder Canon P's are gaining in popularity with photographers, while the expensive M2 remains in collections?
That is a comprehensive comparison! I have a Canon P still looking for a better justifications for getting a Leica M3. For now, my Canon P will it great!
I can only add that when I am using my P I never think about getting a Leica . Something about Leica focus patches, they are very distinct and for me break up the integrity of the viewing experience. Yes, that patch is a finer tuned focusing advantage but the esthetic of viewing with the P, for me, is far more important than fine tuning a particular point of focus. So the P wins for it's gentle overlapping focus mechanism.
While I do prefer the high contrast and sharp edges of the Leica patch, one thing I like about the dimmer Canon patch is when you nail focus is kinda disappears.
Nice. I got given a P with the leather case. 3 lenses. The 35 1.8, 50 1.8, and a 90 or 100 3.5 I think. With original cases to. The shutter is crisp with no wrinkles. Just managed to get a working light meter for it as the one it had wasn’t working.
I have both cameras and while I adore my Canon P, I'd take my M2 over it any day. I prefer the shape of the M2 in hand, the quiet shutter and the viewfinder as well as the focusing patch. My M2 makes it hard to want to shoot with my Canon P. About the the only thing I like about my P over my M2 is the looks. The P has to be the most beautiful camera I have ever owned.
Thanks for watching! I do have to agree, when you boil it down to what really matters, the M2 is the clear winner. You could say the P 90% of the camera the M2 is, with some nice features the M2 doesn't have, but the things that really matter (viewfinder and lens mount for me) are just flat out better on the M2.
They are build the same and the operation is the same ! So I wonder why Leica shooter refers to the canon as an entry camera when it is not …. I’m not a beginner photographer.
I still have the M2. They're both amazing cameras, but I do prefer the M4-P slightly for a few reasons. 28mm frames, quick load and black chrome. If you primarily shoot 35 though I think the M2 is worth it so you can put that few hundred savings towards glass.
@@eastcoastemulsion5374 if you're willing to sell it, I might be interested ;) I've been looking around and can't decide on which one to get. I think the m4-P is the most practical/bang for the buck but I feel like I'd fomo on the M2 because of it's classic lines. Thing is I only have a Color-Skopar 35. I also have the Nokton 40mm and a M-Rokkor 40mm. I also have the M-Rokkor 28 and the new TTartisan 28 5.4. Not really planning to get Leica glass anytime soon. I'm trying to keep my budget firm so that I don't succumb to GAS. Also, it's obvious I have a CLE and that yes, me wanting a Leica is GAS.
Incidentally, the P is quantifiably better built because, unlike the Leica, it has a metal shutter curtain that doesn’t deteriorate or get pinholes. So where it really counts, actually making pictures, the M2 (and M3) is not as well built.
The Leica’s viewfinder just isn’t worth a grand more than the Canon P, and its drawbacks make it even less desirable, especially the way they kept the stupid loading system.
I have the Canon VT deluxe which looks and performs better than both those cameras. If you're going to sell one of those cameras, why would you ever sell the P? If you need the money, and if both cameras are excellent, why the hell wouldn't you sell the overpriced Leica? Unless you drink the Kool aid.
A huge plus with the Canon P is the 1:1 viewfinder; the Leica M2's is 0.75. Canon outshone Leica with the P and sold more cameras. For price, features and sheer beauty, the P wins hands down. No wonder Canon P's are gaining in popularity with photographers, while the expensive M2 remains in collections?
That is a comprehensive comparison! I have a Canon P still looking for a better justifications for getting a Leica M3. For now, my Canon P will it great!
I can only add that when I am using my P I never think about getting a Leica . Something about Leica focus patches, they are very distinct and for me break up the integrity of the viewing experience. Yes, that patch is a finer tuned focusing advantage but the esthetic of viewing with the P, for me, is far more important than fine tuning a particular point of focus. So the P wins for it's gentle overlapping focus mechanism.
While I do prefer the high contrast and sharp edges of the Leica patch, one thing I like about the dimmer Canon patch is when you nail focus is kinda disappears.
Nice. I got given a P with the leather case. 3 lenses. The 35 1.8, 50 1.8, and a 90 or 100 3.5 I think. With original cases to.
The shutter is crisp with no wrinkles.
Just managed to get a working light meter for it as the one it had wasn’t working.
Interesting point about leaving on Bulb
I have both cameras and while I adore my Canon P, I'd take my M2 over it any day. I prefer the shape of the M2 in hand, the quiet shutter and the viewfinder as well as the focusing patch. My M2 makes it hard to want to shoot with my Canon P. About the the only thing I like about my P over my M2 is the looks. The P has to be the most beautiful camera I have ever owned.
Thanks for watching! I do have to agree, when you boil it down to what really matters, the M2 is the clear winner. You could say the P 90% of the camera the M2 is, with some nice features the M2 doesn't have, but the things that really matter (viewfinder and lens mount for me) are just flat out better on the M2.
The canon 7 is better than the P in a few ways but the P looks cooler so it's more popular now haha
True. I like the viewfinder on my Canon 7 and the shutter seems quiet compared to the P. I'm surprised the VI-l isn't more popular.
The VF is definitely an upgrade on the 7.
It’s also a bit less like a brick around your neck.
It's because It's the Canon Populaire 🙃
They are build the same and the operation is the same ! So I wonder why Leica shooter refers to the canon as an entry camera when it is not …. I’m not a beginner photographer.
"entry" comes down to the the price
Have you sold the M2? How do you like M2 vs M4-P? Those were my choices but leaning towards M2 cause it's cheaper and more low key
I still have the M2. They're both amazing cameras, but I do prefer the M4-P slightly for a few reasons. 28mm frames, quick load and black chrome. If you primarily shoot 35 though I think the M2 is worth it so you can put that few hundred savings towards glass.
@@eastcoastemulsion5374 if you're willing to sell it, I might be interested ;) I've been looking around and can't decide on which one to get. I think the m4-P is the most practical/bang for the buck but I feel like I'd fomo on the M2 because of it's classic lines. Thing is I only have a Color-Skopar 35. I also have the Nokton 40mm and a M-Rokkor 40mm. I also have the M-Rokkor 28 and the new TTartisan 28 5.4. Not really planning to get Leica glass anytime soon. I'm trying to keep my budget firm so that I don't succumb to GAS. Also, it's obvious I have a CLE and that yes, me wanting a Leica is GAS.
Incidentally, the P is quantifiably better built because, unlike the Leica, it has a metal shutter curtain that doesn’t deteriorate or get pinholes. So where it really counts, actually making pictures, the M2 (and M3) is not as well built.
The Leica’s viewfinder just isn’t worth a grand more than the Canon P, and its drawbacks make it even less desirable, especially the way they kept the stupid loading system.
I have the Canon VT deluxe which looks and performs better than both those cameras. If you're going to sell one of those cameras, why would you ever sell the P? If you need the money, and if both cameras are excellent, why the hell wouldn't you sell the overpriced Leica? Unless you drink the Kool aid.