Wrong information. Indian classical music has originated in India called Bharat Varsha. The barbaric and uncivilized Khilji was a rude and wild ruler. Herewith I give many evidences in support of my statement 1) names all the swara and ragas are are in sinskrit ( Pancham, dhaivat, shadi, gandhar, Hameer, jaijawanti, Bhairav, bhairavi Durga, ect. 2) we have samveda, Sangeet sanhita dedicated to music whereas barbaric and wild Mughals and Arabs were engaged in wars and fight for loot and woman's. 3) we have many gods and goddesses like Saraswati, Natasa,tumb Ara,gandharva, hanumant who were veterans in music. 4) we have age-old tradition of praising gods and goddesses and there were many musical songs called artis, strotras , abhNgs ect.
I dont know why you have to be so ignorant and nationalistic. Persia and Arabia have extensive music traditions as well, not just India. Its also a misconception to think that Persian influence on Indian culture started with the Mughals. Iranian farmers brought agriculture to India which helped start the Harrappan era. Mauryan architecture was heavily inspired by the Persian Achaemenid Palaces of Susa and Persepolis. The way we depict Buddha is derived from the Hellenisitic practices of Persia. Its actually so hypocritical. Indians get so proud of how Indian culture influenced South East and East Asia but despise the Persian influence on Indian culture.
@@dwarasamudra8889 , I pity your ignorance. We have gods, Vedas dedicated to music. Names of ragas and talas and swaras are in sinskrit. Persians and Mongols what you are talking are nomadic rude tribes, when India was on height of architecture. Can you name any book or literature in Turkey or mongoli dedicated to music or architect. Atleast you should have common sense that these nomadic tribes came here due to India's wealth. Mohammed gazani looted 20 times Somnath temple. I think you are under a very wrong misconception or carried away by wrong history written by foreigners. Even today's rich saudi and Kuwait were begger countries before they discovered petrol. So first learn history and archaeology from all angles and than comment .
Mam jitne sundar aap ho utna achha violin bhi play krte ho..aap 2019 me Baba Harivallabh Sangeet sammelan me aye the aur raag Darbari Kanhada play Kiya tha.🧡👏👏🚩
Yes but Hindustani classical has high influence of Islamic traditions and steeply deviated from Carnatic music(which has retained its roots in Sama Veda).
If hindustani music started from 1100 AD , sultanate rules then what is music of earlier times known as. This video starts with allaudin khilji. What about the music before this time.
@@harshildoshi2498 Dhurpad was our Ancient Music Before Mughals n Qilji.But wasnt familiar in Public. it was being performed in "Hindu Temples" n Rajas Court only. Still This trends can be seen in "South India" 8180877908 Nanded. Maharastra
Nothing actually. It was just termed as "Sangeetha". Hindustani is mostly Persian influenced music while carnatic is largely unaffected by foreign influences and stays true to its origin and purpose, I.e., Bharata Natyashastra.
@ harshil doshil. that is right. before dhrupad came into the picture, it was prabhand gayaki and haveli sangeet, and then dhrupad, which resembled carnatic music, and then the "khayal gayaki" came into picture and that is what we see to today on the hindustani concert stage platform.
I don't think the depiction is fact based. Too superficial and one dimensional analysis. Sastrya Sangeet is too old too reach. Yes it has been dented in small forms. The suddhta, purity has been tried to be spoiled. The spiritual dimensions were muffled.
@@arslanpower with due respect l disagree. History completely distorted. Khusro did not reform rather deformed the original to bring some thing different calling it as Hindustani sangeet. Later many corrections though were done but was too late as it by that time formed its own gharanas. Gharanas also tried to rectify few. The major reason for its distortion by Khusro and giving it a twist you know why happened. The Karnatic Sangeet which still retains most of its purity along with Dhrupad(originally called as dhrub pad) were made to be used mostly for Pravu Vandana and mostly were performed in temples and sometimes otherwise. But every time it was Bhagabat Vandana and was a path of attaining spirituality heights for some. When heard by the then invaders, they fell in love with the Shastriya Sangeet. Later it was explained to them that these are sajda or bhajans. How can we allow this in Muslim Darbar? Then came the intervention of Khusro to make the divine thing 'non divine' . The changes which can be sung in prais of the Sultan, or a beauty or human love etc but will not appear divine rather worldly attractive or intoxicating or romantic or seductive like that. Since then in place of Shiva vandana or Krishna or Shakti vandana, the above were started taking centerstage. This culture also had songs praising the lover but not in classical forms rather in light vocal or folk or local singing. That's the reason Khusro distorted many musical instruments also to suit his manipulation. Any way. Who ever know Shastriya Sangeeta knows how lord Shiva made swaras by the help of lord Vishnu and gave them form as Gandharvas representative of 7 swaras and created ragas. We are utilising such a treasure but lost respect for our culture and civilization. That's why Tabla maestro Alla Rakha, father of Zakir Hussain wakes him up 4 o clock in the morning and asks him to recite some sanskrit shlokas and then start the abhyas. That's why Amjaj Ali Khan (sarod) starts his day with Saraswati Vandana. Thanks Friend.
@ambika dash I understand your sentiments but the thing is.i also study music.. and the thing is there was no such thing of seven swaras in early history of music.. infact it evolved from two or three swaras..and that is not the point. the point is they are telling the history of modern classical music which is different from carnatic ones ..and khusro was the beginning point of that . No matter you like it or not
Amir khusrow didn't sing in persian style while competing against Gopal Nayak.In fact,He despised persian vocal tradition.And here Gopal nayak is being shown to sing in modern carnatic style.The dichotomy of Carnatic and Hindusthani didn't exist at that time.
That is correct. What existed before Muslim invasions in the northern part of india was something called: "prabhandhs". These prabhandhs were very very long and could only be rendered by very knowledgeable people. The great Miyan Tansen's guru, swami haridas, composed many vishnupadas and Miyan Tansen's, himself was also a great drupadiya, a great composer, a great musician in the palace court of Akbhar. prabhandhs contained mostly music that were all about God, such as things that resembled haveli Sangeet, vishnupadas, dhrupad, etc... This is before the "khayal gayaki" came into the picture. Palace Court musicians used to sing all pieces in praise of God. As mogul and Persian invasions happened, that is when the "khayal gayaki" came into the picture. That is why when "khayal" came into the picture it is said that Amir Khusru played a major role in popularizing the "khayal gayaki" because he is the one who could play several instruments well and he was also a vocalist and a composer and he invented the "tabla" which goes very well as accompaniment when singing "khayal gayaki"
Was Allauddin Khilji a Moughal or a Turkish ? At that time there was Dhruapad form of music with Sanskrit texts, did Allauddin understood Sanskrit or Farsi ? Did Amir Khusrau knew Turkish ?
I think it's hard work to do all this film, but I think they need more right information, Not sure to believe all how they stories are going here, And why they didn't discuss about Samveda, Indian music come from there, There are many thing's need to be connected
Historiography and chronology is all wrong, production values are amateurish, but Music is the saving grace. Selection of musical pieces are excellent.
Miyan ki malhar and darbari kanra were the ragas made by tansen raags like malhar and kanra were sung from very earlier but tansen changed the structures of these raagas and named them on himself
श्रीमान आपने दो ही एपिसोड अपलोड किए हैं आगे के एपिसोड में तो अपलोड करो 345 आगे भी तो देखें हम आपने तो बस सिर्फ दो ही एपिसोड अपलोड किए हैं आगे के एपिसोड जो जल्दी से जल्दी अपलोड कीजिए प्लीज जय सरस्वती मैया जय माता दी जय माताजी सा
The history shown in this video is so holariously wrong! Will just point out a sample of glaring mistakes: Alauddin is shown as a "Mughal" shasak (lol). Misleading video. Music is good though.
Acche se home work karke video banao, logo ko chutuya mat banao...sangit ka strot to bhagvan shankar ne om nad se kiya hai iske baad bramhna air maa sarswati dwara ye niche dharti par aaya Mahadeva always keep damru with himself as well as krishna also played flute this proof is essential for proving that classical music originated from god and created from themselves too🙏 In samveda you can get all detail of classical music🙏 which had been written 5000 years ago if i am not wrong 🙏
Before the 1100s, there was no such thing as Hindustani or Carnatic classical. However, the various styles of music before the 1100s were more similar to the current Carnatic style. However, the various Hindustani styles of Northern India probably diverged earlier than the the south Indian styles that became Carnatic.
Hindustani and Carnatic music styles are only 800 years old though. Before this, the styles were different but still slightly more similar to carnatic.
Hindustani is acutely Carnatic music influenced by other vocals from the invaders or by merchants to india. Hindustani not pure indian art it's mixed but Carnatic is pure indian and the ragas were put in the time of Akbar the great. Let's not deny that. The influenced of arabic maqam on.Hindustani music, you should listen to arabic maqams and see it's as beautiful as Hindustani ragas
@@jagjag6383 let's not deny? I've listened to arabic maqams and they're extremely different from Hindustani Ragas. Both Hindustani and Carnatic are equally ancient and divine
What nonsense! The music starts from Samaveda. Where is the relation between Allah Uddin Kilji and classical music which is ancient. These idiots wants to call everything mughal from food to music.
Because I am looking this for real knowledge because I am studying the sub vocal and I want to know everything single thing of vocal will you suggest me something
It is our loss that we couldn't actually record the music of these legendary historical singers.
Many books write that Rudra Veena was the ancestor of Sitar and Surbahar was constructed before Sitar even !
Knowledge enhanced by this documentary!
Thanks a lot.
Wrong information. Indian classical music has originated in India called Bharat Varsha. The barbaric and uncivilized Khilji was a rude and wild ruler. Herewith I give many evidences in support of my statement
1) names all the swara and ragas are are in sinskrit ( Pancham, dhaivat, shadi, gandhar, Hameer, jaijawanti, Bhairav, bhairavi Durga, ect.
2) we have samveda, Sangeet sanhita dedicated to music whereas barbaric and wild Mughals and Arabs were engaged in wars and fight for loot and woman's.
3) we have many gods and goddesses like Saraswati, Natasa,tumb Ara,gandharva, hanumant who were veterans in music.
4) we have age-old tradition of praising gods and goddesses and there were many musical songs called artis, strotras , abhNgs ect.
I dont know why you have to be so ignorant and nationalistic. Persia and Arabia have extensive music traditions as well, not just India. Its also a misconception to think that Persian influence on Indian culture started with the Mughals. Iranian farmers brought agriculture to India which helped start the Harrappan era. Mauryan architecture was heavily inspired by the Persian Achaemenid Palaces of Susa and Persepolis. The way we depict Buddha is derived from the Hellenisitic practices of Persia. Its actually so hypocritical. Indians get so proud of how Indian culture influenced South East and East Asia but despise the Persian influence on Indian culture.
@@dwarasamudra8889 Some people can't appreciate art because their mind is clouded with hubris and infected with hate.
@@dwarasamudra8889 , I pity your ignorance. We have gods, Vedas dedicated to music. Names of ragas and talas and swaras are in sinskrit. Persians and Mongols what you are talking are nomadic rude tribes, when India was on height of architecture. Can you name any book or literature in Turkey or mongoli dedicated to music or architect. Atleast you should have common sense that these nomadic tribes came here due to India's wealth. Mohammed gazani looted 20 times Somnath temple. I think you are under a very wrong misconception or carried away by wrong history written by foreigners. Even today's rich saudi and Kuwait were begger countries before they discovered petrol. So first learn history and archaeology from all angles and than comment .
@@dwarasamudra8889, can you tell me what kind of music is prevailing in Persia and Mongolia at present ?
@@tubemaster2676 Santur,Sitar has Persian roots.
Not sure if tabla was used that popularly in 1100AD.
प्रणाम गुरुदेव।जय सरस्वती मैय्या।।राधे राधे
Really great this man who made this channel's video and topic
INDIAN MUSIC DATES BACK TO 5 LAC YEARS AGO , OUR VED MENTIONS MUSIC. WE CAN SEE THAT INSTANCES IN RAMAYAN AND MAHABHARAT
Chaman chutiye pata bhi hai 5 lakh mein kitne 0 hote hai?
Be realistic man , you live in the age of global technology and science
do you know about carbon dating ? do you know about ramsetu ? m very realistic, u r going by only theories.@@B-SharpBenchmarks
@@rockytej Yes I know , but whatever you mentioned which one of those is 5 lakh year old ?
Absolutely correct! The Indian music is as old as it gets and "Sri Raag" is one of the old ragas which have sustained till now
16:19 Swami Haridas Ji, It's truly divine.
Mam jitne sundar aap ho utna achha violin bhi play krte ho..aap 2019 me Baba Harivallabh Sangeet sammelan me aye the aur raag Darbari Kanhada play Kiya tha.🧡👏👏🚩
Pt.kevalya Kumar gaurav g kya khoob jach rahe hai prnaam
Bhupali bandish also very beautiful. Pl. Send the wordings of khayal
Enjoyed the melodious music Vedio.Thankyou.
I really hated the part when they said khilji invaded our country
बहुत सुंदर जानकारी।
bahut bhoob, mazaaaa gaya.
Who gave the backgroumd voices for gopal nayak and amir khusro
that Shankracharya's music was the best depiction I have ever seen. love this and just my belly tingles listening to that..
gm😶👍
The origin of Indian music is in Vedas, later on ancient terrorist capture and shows it as their contribution.
Yes but Hindustani classical has high influence of Islamic traditions and steeply deviated from Carnatic music(which has retained its roots in Sama Veda).
This is !slams prop@g@nda documentary.
If hindustani music started from 1100 AD , sultanate rules then what is music of earlier times known as. This video starts with allaudin khilji. What about the music before this time.
it was devotional music known as haweli sangeet and prabandh gaiki
@@harshildoshi2498 Dhurpad was our
Ancient Music Before Mughals n Qilji.But wasnt familiar in Public.
it was being performed in "Hindu
Temples" n Rajas Court only.
Still This trends can be seen in
"South India"
8180877908
Nanded. Maharastra
@@riyazjagirdar2688 thats fascinating
but whats that number you left? is that yours?
Nothing actually. It was just termed as "Sangeetha".
Hindustani is mostly Persian influenced music while carnatic is largely unaffected by foreign influences and stays true to its origin and purpose, I.e., Bharata Natyashastra.
@ harshil doshil. that is right. before dhrupad came into the picture, it was prabhand gayaki and haveli sangeet, and then dhrupad, which resembled carnatic music, and then the "khayal gayaki" came into picture and that is what we see to today on the hindustani concert stage platform.
I don't think the depiction is fact based.
Too superficial and one dimensional analysis. Sastrya Sangeet is too old too reach. Yes it has been dented in small forms. The suddhta, purity has been tried to be spoiled. The spiritual dimensions were muffled.
It is old.. but the shastriya sangeet as we know it today formed in khusro era
@@arslanpower with due respect l disagree. History completely distorted.
Khusro did not reform rather deformed the original to bring some thing different calling it as Hindustani sangeet. Later many corrections though were done but was too late as it by that time formed its own gharanas. Gharanas also tried to rectify few.
The major reason for its distortion by Khusro and giving it a twist you know why happened. The Karnatic Sangeet which still retains most of its purity along with Dhrupad(originally called as dhrub pad) were made to be used mostly for Pravu Vandana and mostly were performed in temples and sometimes otherwise. But every time it was Bhagabat Vandana and was a path of attaining spirituality heights for some. When heard by the then invaders, they fell in love with the Shastriya Sangeet.
Later it was explained to them that these are sajda or bhajans. How can we allow this in Muslim Darbar? Then came the intervention of Khusro to make the divine thing 'non divine' . The changes which can be sung in prais of the Sultan, or a beauty or human love etc but will not appear divine rather worldly attractive or intoxicating or romantic or seductive like that. Since then in place of Shiva vandana or Krishna or Shakti vandana, the above were started taking centerstage.
This culture also had songs praising the lover but not in classical forms rather in light vocal or folk or local singing. That's the reason Khusro distorted many musical instruments also to suit his manipulation.
Any way. Who ever know Shastriya Sangeeta knows how lord Shiva made swaras by the help of lord Vishnu and gave them form as Gandharvas representative of 7 swaras and created ragas. We are utilising such a treasure but lost respect for our culture and civilization.
That's why Tabla maestro Alla Rakha, father of Zakir Hussain wakes him up 4 o clock in the morning and asks him to recite some sanskrit shlokas and then start the abhyas.
That's why Amjaj Ali Khan (sarod) starts his day with Saraswati Vandana. Thanks Friend.
@ambika dash I understand your sentiments but the thing is.i also study music.. and the thing is there was no such thing of seven swaras in early history of music.. infact it evolved from two or three swaras..and that is not the point. the point is they are telling the history of modern classical music which is different from carnatic ones ..and khusro was the beginning point of that . No matter you like it or not
Kusto is distorted version of dhrupad.
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Music of temples timeless
1:23 OM Hari Anant ...
Wowwwwwww😢
Wah thanks for this awesome video. It's very essential. Pl. intimate the singers also. Beautiful Dhamar. Awesome
🙏🙏 informative
This needs English subtitles! Please add this.
Amir khusrow didn't sing in persian style while competing against Gopal Nayak.In fact,He despised persian vocal tradition.And here Gopal nayak is being shown to sing in modern carnatic style.The dichotomy of Carnatic and Hindusthani didn't exist at that time.
carnatic did, but not of this accent , n yeah, persian didn't..
INDIAN MUSIC IS DISTINCT ASSHOLES
And Swami Haridaas shown singing Khyal gayiki but maiy Swami Haridas sung Dhrupad Ang.
That is correct. What existed before Muslim invasions in the northern part of india was something called:
"prabhandhs". These prabhandhs were very very long and could only be rendered by very knowledgeable people. The great Miyan Tansen's guru, swami haridas, composed many vishnupadas and Miyan Tansen's, himself was also a great drupadiya, a great composer, a great musician in the palace court of Akbhar. prabhandhs contained mostly music that were all about God, such as things that resembled haveli Sangeet, vishnupadas, dhrupad, etc... This is before the "khayal gayaki" came into the picture. Palace Court musicians used to sing all pieces in praise of God. As mogul and Persian invasions happened, that is when the "khayal gayaki" came into the picture. That is why when "khayal" came into the picture it is said that Amir Khusru played a major role in popularizing the "khayal gayaki" because he is the one who could play several instruments well and he was also a vocalist and a composer and he invented the "tabla" which goes very well as accompaniment when singing "khayal gayaki"
excellent
Two great singers with same vocal texture (Vijay Prakash and papon).
which is papon's voice ?
NIC 😊
Pt. Kaivalya Kumar as miya tansen
Was Allauddin Khilji a Moughal or a Turkish ? At that time there was Dhruapad form of music with Sanskrit texts, did Allauddin understood Sanskrit or Farsi ? Did Amir Khusrau knew Turkish ?
Dhrupad raja maan singh ko indroduced q h ???
Dhrupad gayki toh saamved meh mentioned h
Who is playing swami Haridass ? I’d like to hear more of him...
I think it's hard work to do all this film, but I think they need more right information,
Not sure to believe all how they stories are going here,
And why they didn't discuss about Samveda, Indian music come from there,
There are many thing's need to be connected
This is !slams prop@g@nda documentary.
Historiography and chronology is all wrong, production values are amateurish, but Music is the saving grace. Selection of musical pieces are excellent.
Beautiful documentary!!! Very informative...
foolish
Shukriya for this episode !
खूप खूप सुंदर
Dhrupad tala is Sultala?
No. Dhrupad Tala is Chau Tala which is 12 mantras or 12 beats. Sul Tala is 10 mantras or 10 beats.
Yes taal used in dhrupad is sultala 10 beats
Intrest or invention me different hota hea...
Nice
Kindly help me
How raag names were arranged like Malkuns.Todi. Mian ki malhar. Aiman. Darbari etc
Miyan ki malhar and darbari kanra were the ragas made by tansen raags like malhar and kanra were sung from very earlier but tansen changed the structures of these raagas and named them on himself
Nayak gopal and dhondhu are the progenitors of kirana gharana
श्रीमान आपने दो ही एपिसोड अपलोड किए हैं आगे के एपिसोड में तो अपलोड करो 345 आगे भी तो देखें हम आपने तो बस सिर्फ दो ही एपिसोड अपलोड किए हैं आगे के एपिसोड जो जल्दी से जल्दी अपलोड कीजिए प्लीज जय सरस्वती मैया जय माता दी जय माताजी सा
naaam kya is serial ka
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Why don't you release this in all remaining 21 languages
Nice one 👌 #allinbhai
Charcter tansen pandit kwiwalykumar himself
Those guy playing taanpura though 😂
They're only striking first string lol.
😂
(९) मोरा जोबना नवेलरा भयो है गुलाल।
कैसे कर दीन्हीं बकस मोरी माल।
👏👏👏👏👏
I think the sequence is not correct....
Clap for presenting invaders as major contributors to indian music. 👏👏👏
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🙌
The history shown in this video is so holariously wrong!
Will just point out a sample of glaring mistakes:
Alauddin is shown as a "Mughal" shasak (lol).
Misleading video. Music is good though.
चित्रण के माध्यम से समझाने का अच्छा प्रया है,
बहुत सुंदर 🎤🎶
Acche se home work karke video banao, logo ko chutuya mat banao...sangit ka strot to bhagvan shankar ne om nad se kiya hai iske baad bramhna air maa sarswati dwara ye niche dharti par aaya
Mahadeva always keep damru with himself as well as krishna also played flute this proof is essential for proving that classical music originated from god and created from themselves too🙏
In samveda you can get all detail of classical music🙏 which had been written 5000 years ago if i am not wrong 🙏
This is !slams prop@g@nda documentary.
तीसरा पार्ट भी तो upload करो
Why does Google say Hindustani is older than Carnatic.
Before the 1100s, there was no such thing as Hindustani or Carnatic classical. However, the various styles of music before the 1100s were more similar to the current Carnatic style. However, the various Hindustani styles of Northern India probably diverged earlier than the the south Indian styles that became Carnatic.
@akshay vasisht very true there was only one system of music in india. no such thing as hindustani or carnatic classical before 1100s.
the style was very similar to carnatic style of singing
i mean the current style of current carnatic style of singing
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Alauddin Khilji was a Khilji, not a Mughal. The Mughals came much later, in the 16th century (1500s).
THIS IS BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS. everything is unsubstantiated and utter bullshit. as if people had no culture of their own and their own music.
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bhot khoob
Taan singh ka raag to bahot achha thaa magar jo actor tha wo filling nahi kar paaya music i think😍😍
Wo Actor hi singer hai actually..He's Pandit Kaivalya Kumar Gurav playing as Tansen
Khusro ne bharat k sangeet mein hi qual o kavval ka influence dala tha thoda
Shameful. You started Hindustani music from Allaudin Khilzi period.
Hindustani and Carnatic music styles are only 800 years old though. Before this, the styles were different but still slightly more similar to carnatic.
Hindustani is acutely Carnatic music influenced by other vocals from the invaders or by merchants to india.
Hindustani not pure indian art it's mixed but Carnatic is pure indian and the ragas were put in the time of Akbar the great. Let's not deny that.
The influenced of arabic maqam on.Hindustani music, you should listen to arabic maqams and see it's as beautiful as Hindustani ragas
@@jagjag6383 let's not deny? I've listened to arabic maqams and they're extremely different from Hindustani Ragas. Both Hindustani and Carnatic are equally ancient and divine
This is !slams propaganda documentary.
Beautiful Dhrupad
Alaudin khilji wasn't Mughal emperor
He is Delhi sultanate emperor
can you prove tour complete fakery?
Allauddin khilji mughal shasak nhi balki khilji vansh k the..
अलाउद्दीन ख़िलजी को मुग़ल कहना उचित है?
Alauddin khalji was not a Mughal..!
LIES!
This is fucking ridiculous
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Alauddin khilji was not a Mughal dynast.
It's totally wrong...
please follow Wikipedia for correct knowledge
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Allauddin khilji was sultan of khilji dynasty ann not a mughal ruler
Delhi sultanate
No Mughals invented our music
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Ye film kisne banya ye biased hei...
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What nonsense! The music starts from Samaveda. Where is the relation between Allah Uddin Kilji and classical music which is ancient. These idiots wants to call everything mughal from food to music.
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What nonsense piece of false info is this
Bkwas
False narrative.
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Is this the true statement, are you sure that this is the false narrator
Because I am looking this for real knowledge because I am studying the sub vocal and I want to know everything single thing of vocal will you suggest me something
Acting is not good