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Stella's Childhood Even WORSE Than Stolas? The Tragedy of the Ars Goetia!
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- The Stella of it all
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Lol i already watched most of it
This I got to see!😁
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I think it has to be more about how like you said that she was born just so someone else can get born and by Stolas cheating on her, her entire life and purpose... would be for nothing
70%+ abusers have been abused. It’s logical for Stella to have a bad backstory, it’s realistic.
Exactly. Thats called the "cycle of abuse". Abusers were often abused themselves, and have a distorted sense of whats normal because of it. A good example in Vivziepops work was Angel Dust constantly sexually harassing Husk. He didn't mean to be creepy like Val acts, Angel just didn't have a sense of personal boundaries. Lucky for Angel it turns out Husk really cares for him and was able to help break that cycle.
I really hope they treat her like Beatrice Horseman - her childhood was worse than her victim's(BoJack), and yet it doesn't excuse her even if it explains it.
Honestly same with Val
@@professionalbird911 I don’t agree with that. Val has a motive, money. A lot of pimps irl do it for money and money alone.
@@Deadlavalproductions I meant the erm grape part, most grapists were victims themselves
I think this can be really interesting, I like the idea that Stella can be a victim of the Ars Goetia in a different way than Stolas without making her too sympathetic and thus excusing her actions and behaviour.
Well if you think about it. Both were in an arranged marriage. While Stolas definitely takes a more active and mature approach to it. She takes to a more petty and negative approach. Stolas did cheat. However she was more upset that it was with an imp. While she definitely could play the victim card. She would need to be better at it than what she is doing now
Not excuse it, but explain it, just like stolas
I hope we get to see her point of view on how she feels about this arranged marriage
@@Thebeezzkneezz. exactly !
I am going to say what I 🤔 think: Stella hired Striker to k/ word Stolas. She could have got anyone; why even give him an angelic weapon? And where did that sexy statue come from? Stella?
I think an important thing to remember is that Stella is also a victim too, despite being a horrible a** to Stolas. She was also forced into a marriage with a person she didn't love, and I can completely understand why she would be angry over that, although that obviously does not justify her behavior towards Stolas.
I'm happy we're getting more detail than "she's been evil since childhood"
Yes! Stella takes her anger out in the wrong ways
@@7waterdrops_7 I knew it! My theory was right!
She didn’t have a choice and neither did Stolas but he doesn’t treat her poorly by abusing her.
@@ConfusedLemonsDid Vivziepop actually say that?
My theory is that Andrealphus is the heir the parents wanted/favored while Stella is the spare they’re willing to spoil until they sell her off. Speaking of Andrealphus, I also have a theory that Vassago is one of the very few individuals who is immune to his persuasive powers, and strangely enough one of the few people who he actually listens too (and secretly has a thing for as the book cover in the last episode is hinting at).
I have a feeling that they used to date at one point but had a bitter break up.
I feel Stella wanted someone stronger who could trade jabs with her rather than someone more submissive like Stolas.
That would actually be pretty funny and kinda great if that’s the type of person she likes
@@riakunand this is why Striker x Stella is such a fun ship
I agree with you that I think Stella wanted someone to fight with, or even someone who would dominate her. But I wouldn't say that would necessarily make that person stronger than Stolas. I think that Stolas showed alot of strength in apology tour in alot of ways.
@@jessicahay9305 I don't think she wants that. She probably just wants someone from her level, not someone "passive" .
@@SpoopySquid ikr? The inherent irony and hypocrisy, the contrasting aesthetics, the shared antagonistic personalities, the “sort-of-opposing-sides-to-lovers but they’re both awful people” - what’s not to love about the ship? ❤️🔥
Tragedy isn’t an excuse to harm others close to you.
But I am intrigued that we will learn more about her.
It absolutely does not excuse but yes it would deepen the character I am also interested!
That goes for Stolas to.
Who routinely abuses his Imp Butlers (which is played as a running joke) and coerced Blitzo into a sexually exploitative arrangement to satisy his own lustful needs.
Stella is just more bombastic and blatant about it, but the Goetia as a whole harm those close to them.
Including each other.
@@gasparg643 That's true, but it annoys me that the writers pick and choose whose shitty behaviour is excused for the sake of comedy, and whose shitty behaviour pegs them as a villain.
Loona and Blitzo both routinely abuse Moxxie but it's never played for drama. Yet Stella abuses Stolas and she's a monster.
Eh loona hasn't really done anything to moxxie lately@PlanetZoidstar . It ain't tge same as stokas and stella
@@tobsonasanya4765 Yes it is. Abuse is abuse.
Plus Loona abused Blitzo during Seeing the Stars for no good reason.
I’m really excited to see if Stella was always a dang goblin child or just started that at a young age
It would be interesting if they spin it as Stella, a child already predisposed to anger and bouts of rage, being forced into an arranged marriage for social reasons and being given no outlet for that rage. So this scandal destroying the sense of perfection she’s pretended for so long would be the perfect reason to give her an avenue for X years of pent up anger
I figured something was up with her when I saw how her brother interacted with her when they were talking with Stolas, her brother talks down to her and she says nothing, she would never let Stolas get away with that.
In addition when they're talking to Stolas it feels like he's the dominant one during that conversation.
It also distinctly felt like he was treating her like she was a child and a burden during that.
I got that same vibe too!
It could be that Andrealphus learned to manipulate Stella and use her for his own benefit from watching their parents do the same thing growing up.
I love it when vilans have an actual reason to be bad. It would be nice to have that for Stella!
I think what might happen is that Andrealphus will indeed try and kill Octavia, and when Stella will realize that this is his plan, she will also realize that, even though she doesn't care much about Octavia, she cares enough about her to not want her dead, and she will try to protect Octavia from him, and this will make her evolve and change, even if just a tiny bit.
After all, we don't know what happens when Octavia is living with Stella alone on weekends. They probably ignore each other, but maybe that without Stolas there, Stella actually had to acknowledge Octavia instead of making Stolas do everything all the time, and she might have a newfound affection for her daughter now that she actually interacted with her.
I'm kind of curious about whether Stella even understands the plan. She seems like the kind of person who is only putting trust in her brother just because she knows he's smarter than her. But also what happens if we find out she does care about Octavia in that narcissistic "You are a reflection of me" sort of way and is actually really territorial about her? We did get that "turning her against me" line in an earlier episode.
I reallly want to see stella and octavia interact, think that will be really important to understanding both of their p[perspectives better
Stella not having a role in goetia royalty except making babies makes me believe the goetia don't see women as worthy enough to have such power, seeing how the other goetia royalty all seem to be males, beezlebub might be in the goetia family too but she's a sin so she might get a pass into the goetia
I am SO unbelievably excited to learn more about Stella because as a character I actually genuinely like her I mean as a “person” I hate her how she’s so cruel and entitled but as a character of being purposefully hateable I like her (and she’s hot for a humanoid bird demon)
her design is absolutely gorgeous, and her voice actress is goated (she's also friends with Brandon Rogers and acts in his skits, it was so cool when I started watching his different series and saw and heard Stella there)
i agree exactly with this!
10:43 what if it was Striker, that would explain how they knew each other and why he hates Goetia for "taking everything from him" yet still worked for Stella
That would be unexpected asf 💀
“-Honestly, looking at Stella at this light makes her And Strikers Dynamic more fitting. Because all their talk about being Above/Better than what they claim to be- in the end of the day their both just characters being used by the exact same forces that they both despise.
I'm just really curious to see what the relationship between Octavia and Stella is. Even if they've been on screen together, not once have they had a conversation between the two. And Octavia at leasts seems to care about her parents not breaking up so I'd assume Stella might actually be "nice" to Octavia which would be dope to see.
I bet it would be a fake type of nice... like narcissist mothers are... ask me how I know.
I think the idea of Stella being in love with someone else would be interesting. Especially if that's what caused her outburst in the picture Stolas is shown as a child. I always thought that was a weird choice, choosing her worst picture, when she's in a rage, to show to her future husband. If my family or friends wanted to set me up with someone and I had a picture like THAT, that would be the last picture I'd ever want to see the light of day, let alone the eyes of a potential suitor. No matter if I was interested or not.
Oh my god, Mastermind is a Stella/Andrealphus episode.
Would be funny if Stella actually had some secret relationship with an imp who left her in some way (death, choice, etc.) and her being enraged by Stolas sleeping with an imp was just some extreme projection over something that Stolas had that she couldn’t.
Ooooh! I like it!
What if Stella belongs to a subclass, if not lesser, bird demon class only used for breeding specifically for the Goetias. Yes, they had privileges as "pseudo royals" but their existence was based on supporting a superior demon class to keep ruling bloodline. That may explain Stella's insane bitterness and how mean she is. Perhaps she had aspirations and dreams that were crushed because of that duty.
That would be a great idea considering Helluva boss is already about class and social problems.
Hopefully Stella can have some emotional depth later on in the show
I'm intersted in what Viv said about not being affraid of killing off characters which makes me wonder if Crimson or Striker will die.
Also, I agree on seeing Stella's side and backstory. She was forced into a marriage just like Stolas
Wait, maybe Stella's parents are pretty neglectful and only favor her brother Andrealphus because he's more brains and more powerful than her. Or maybe Stella is just a spoiled rich brat because she just wants some attention and more power.🤔
I mean, she IS a literal peacock.. If you ever see how those birds are IRL, you'll understand.
@@NightSprinter I always thought that Stella is a swan.
@@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 No, her beak isn't anything close to a swan. If you look at her hair (and Andrealphus in the LevelUpCon trailer), then look at some photos of peacocks, you can see the resemblence.
@@NightSprinter I hadn't realized that. I didn't think she resembles a peacock like Andrealphus.
@@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 yeah, the females don't look as extravagant as the males do. It's the best I can explain as to why her feathers look more muted, while her brother is an almost-neon level of ice blue.
Seeing it from Stella pov it may or may not change our perspective on her along with the way she turned out and though her actions can’t be justified because she herself is well aware of her personality with Stolas we still haven’t seen every single part of her. Other than her showing no remorse or respect to Stolas and we don’t know her relationship with Octavia but we do know she cares about her status and name and doesn’t want it to be tarnished
This.I hate when people excuse person actions because they „good sad childhood🥺” this can give us more sympathy to the characters ofc but at the end of the day she’s still a bad person and villain.
@@all091 Yet you can excuse all of Stolas?
Eh not completely the same@@kingdingaling6516
@@kingdingaling6516 What did he comparable to Stella’s actions💀?
@@kingdingaling6516stolas is also in the wrong, same way blitz was. Neither compare to stella because stella is a villain and irredeemable
My theory is that Stolas, Andrealphus and Vissago are all half-brothers, with Paimon being a common father and their mothers being different, while Stella has a different (non-royal) father making her Andrealphus’s half-sister. This is backed up in the episode with Stolas’s childhood where Paimon states that he has multiple other children, enough that he needs reminding which one Stolas is. This would give her a slightly different view on cheating since her mother would presumably have cheated on her father with Paimon, which would make her blowing up at Stolas make some sense, not only did he do the same thing to her that her mother did to her father he didn’t even sleep with someone of high rank the way her mother did.
For Octavia my current speculation is that Andrealphus will try to force her into marrying him once Stolas is dead. This would make sense because as the precautionary heir to Stolas she would be expected to birth a new precautionary heir in the event of her father’s demise. This would give Andrealphus a legal route to inheriting Stolas’ estate and he could easily have Octavia disposed of once she’s produced the precautionary heir. This would also give Stella an opportunity to partially redeem herself by realizing she doesn’t want her daughter to suffer the same fate of being the breeder in a loveless marriage.
Andrealphus is confirmed to be canonically gay, and Vivziepop has said that Stolas will not die in the show.
I think Stella is like the villain in The Devil Wears Prada but instead of being high and mighty when comes to fashion and keeping a mask of a strong person when in reality it's a insecure person who needs validation all the time, Stella could be someone just be an angry person because she believes she has to be and Andrealphus just saw something to his benefit.
I do would love if they give Stella a little bit more depth, so that we don't have to see her as this heartless wife anymore. But a sad backstory doesn't justifice her actions, especially her treatment of Stolas. ❤
But it justifies Stolas' actions?
@@kingdingaling6516stolas at least has a more likely chance to change
@@kingdingaling6516no, but his actions are understandable. He was forced into a marriage with some woman when he's gay and was abused by that said person and was completely unhappy
@@kingdingaling6516 Stolas didnt verbally and phsyically assault Stella the way she did with him. He cheated on her, and yeah thats crap and against marriage vows, but neither of them were in love with each other so its hardly even a betrayal. Like Stolas says "I would feel bad if I hurt you, but we both know I didn't do that". Stolas cheating is bad and wronge and unforgivable in the one note its against the rules of the relationship kinda way, but thats pretty ridiculous when neither of them gave a crap about the relationship.
5:16 "Bottom of the Totem Pole" Well yeah, Ozzie and Satan are pretty big figures.
This is your reminder that totem poles are bottom to top in level of importance, as the bottom holds the others up.
oh GOD WHY DOES THIS PLAY INTO MY STRIKER BEING SLANG FOR STOLEN THEORY SO WELL?
(Striker is often used in some places as slang for stolen. We already know Striker has a severe distaste for the royals, so if he were to, I don't know, have a relationship with a Goetia as a kid, before having that *stolen* away by someone higher up, he would develop a hatred for royals. If that was Stella, then I can see it hurting both of them permanently.)
I find it hard to hate Stella when everyone in Helluva Boss is shitty to a degree or another.
Don't forget that I.M.P makes their money *murdering* Humans. Alot of Humans.
Compared to that Stella's crimes of abusing only her husband seem trite.
Attempted murder also. And being classiest but yeah
To be fair, the members of I.M.P are just trying to make a living. And there are still people who are hitmen/hitwomen and merceneries in the modern world btw
Welcome to the Hella-verse where your perspective on who to route for comes into question.
@@Actionfan19 Oh I'm routing for the I.M.P members and allies
@@harleyhart1497I mean what they are doing ain't good either
I think they can expand on Stella, as long as they don't make her sympathetic. Just look at villains like Homelander for example; you feel sorry for what he endured, but you can't excuse or justify any of his actions currently. I think that would be the best route to go with for Stella, because it would help diversify her cast. You NEED some characters to be just plain bad or just plain good to help balance out the ones that are on the morality spectrum.
Viv has the good side of the morality spectrum already with Moxxie and Millie; despite being guns for hire, they are generally good people and easy to get behind. Queen Bee could also fit in this category. Then you have people like Stolas and Blitz who would be in the morally gray area, either gray heroes or anti heroes but gray nonetheless. And then to round it out, Stella and her brother along with Mammon and Moxxie's father.
Eh I wouldn't say they are good people
Where would you put Fizz and Ozzie on the morality spectrum? The worst thing both of them have done is being hypocrites for being a couple in love, but openly making fun of the M&Ms and Blitz & Stolas at Ozzie’s night club. Yet, we’re shown that Fizz & Ozzie have kept their relationship secret, for the most part, to protect Ozz’s status as the king of lust.
@StarViewer68 I would probably put them as gray heroes, somewhere in the middle, but above Blitz and Stolas.
So like this:
Bad = mammon stella striker paimon andrealphus (or however you spell his name), DHORKS, CHERUBS
Gray heroes leaning good = fizz and Ozzie, I'd say maybe Verosika
Gray heroes leaning middle = Loona, Queen Bee,
Gray heroes leaning anti hero or bad = Blitz, Stolas
Morally good = Moxxie and Millie, Octavia
What's good about shows like this and Arcane is the spectrum can shift. Whereas Vi was on the gray scale leaning good, now as an enforcer, she could go good or towards anti hero to suit her own agendas. Whereas Jinx was smack dab in the middle, now she's just bad it's hard to sympathize even though you understand why she did what she did. I love writing like that.
@TheRibottoStudios how is moxxie and millie more good than fizz. Also the cherubs and dhorks aren't bad
Stella kinda reminds me of Marik a little. Marik became evil because he hated at the fact he was going to become a tomb keeper, and his hatred manifested. Maybe Stella wants to stay a Goetia because maybe her parents were a bit abusive and she fears them?
We all know that villains aren’t born, but in the end Stella chose this way of life instead of trying to be better than her family.
Stolas made choices to especially with Octavia. How many times does he need to learn to comfort and spend some time with his daughter while the family is transitioning through this phase?
1. Stella is a character that you would feel for if she wasn't terrible. Personal issue is how she forgets Octavia.
2. Ideally, I'd like to see a short on Octavia as a child seeing her world growing up.
3. Adraophis is the type of guy who'd systematically cut people off. Ergo, I wouldn't put it past him controlling Octavia the same way he would Stella.
11:25 The way Stella put her foot down no matter how clearly in the wrong she is, kind of reminds me of how Blitzø from the latest episode (S2 E9) did that too (like quite literally how it’s animated)
Past traumas aren't justifications for current behaviors.
Yea but it can explain why she is this way. It wont justify it because stolas also suffered in young age and it isnt as bad as her but it will explain why she is this way.
Stella’s childhood could be worse than Stolas’s, she never had a choice and neither did Stolas. Her behavior could be the product of how she was raised in her childhood: negligence and emotional/physical abuse. But looking at the younger version of herself it seems like she was already a booger anyways 🤷♀️.
I can’t wait to see young Stella and Andre, I wonder who’s gonna play them.
Few people are innately "pure evil / malicious", and nearly everyone has some rationality or logic to how they behave.
To want a villain to be simple / flat is the romanticism of the situation, as it makes the conflicts & problems much easier & simpler to understand & deal with than they would be in reality.
That’s not true narcissism is extremely common and we are realizing that empathy is something taught and that narcissism is much more often the baseline you need to develop out of.
@@deepcut7788
Narcissism is not inherently evil nor malicious. Only self-centeredness, which is a survival mechanism.
When I tried to explain that once, I got hit with the "I'm tired of characters needing good reasons in order to be bad" which I don't disagree with entirely but when every single one of them is evil just to be evil, it gets just as tiring as characters who have reasons. Especially with the lack of depth. I liked Stella as a villain at first because they showed her as someone dangerous that they could expand her character on and then they dumbed her down to an insulting level. Basically made her a puppet to her brother.
@@forest2727stella was never shown to be a mastermind lol
Maybe Stella was once a sweet little girl but I suppose the goetia family made her spoiled and mean.
Would not be surprised if Stella was small potatoes compared to Andrealphus and his overall plot. I have a small hope that Stella will at least team up with Stolas for the sake of keeping Octavia alive.
I definitely believe Andrealphus has some part in her madness. We've already seen how good he is at manipulating her. I think he could have done something that made her the way she is.
This was another satifying video! Thank you! :D
Well I think you're on to something there with the Stella's past lover.
Well my theory is that Stella's past lover was Striker. (He's Striker)
In s2 ep4 Striker said to Stolas "some of us have everything we care about taken away by fudgers like you". Mabey he is angry at Stolas because Stolas was the reason why the thing he cared about was taken away. And that thing he cared about was Stella.
I really enjoy watching the interview
Despite everything about Stella's character, I don't think she's the "Most Evil" character in HelluvaBoss. I believe that title should go to Crimson.
My take on this is personally I like back stories because I get to learn how a character became who they are now.
I have been wanting to see more of Stella and her story, and happy to get that at some point.
There was a recent piece of art on twitter about Helluva Boss, showing the sexuality of a lot of the major main characters and Andrealphus is apparently gay (nothing wrong with that, just didn’t see that coming lol) and you have theorized in the past that he might be Blitz’s ex lover! I just think that with this new information, this theory could possibly be true now!
If I had to guess what will eventually happen with Stella, it would be that we will get an episode that starts with a flashback to the childhoods of Stolas and Stella alike, which will start with them seemingly being exactly alike in the way they act, but drifting further and further apart as they are influenced by those around them.
The first big difference that has at least been partially confirmed is that Stolas, from a very early age, was instilled with a sense of responsibility -- was told very early by Paimon that he would be Hell's astrologer, with the only duty of that position Stolas wasn't looking forward to being his marriage to Stella.
Since Stella has no title at all, and by extension, no position, we can probably conclude that marrying another Goetia was the ONLY thing she was told was expected of her. So while they were both instilled with a sense of responsibility as children, Stolas's responsibility was to be studious, observant, and diligent, whereas Stella's duty began and ended at (and it won't surprise me one bit if this is the actual line used in the episode) "Get fucked".
The second would be who they had supporting them growing up, and it makes perfect sense that Stolas would have a lot of contact with Vassago, who the Lesser Key of Solomon (take a shot) describes as "to declare things Past and to Come, and to discover all things Hidden or Lost". This would put him in the same department as Stolas, who has been told to study the sky and stars for the prophesies they hold.
In contrast, Stella's confidant was Andrealphus, who appears to have no real ambition except to move up the ranks of the Goetia. So while Stolas had a friend with "a good nature" who could give him good, or at least honest insight whenever confided in that kept his (for lack of a better word) humanity preserved, Stella was constantly being advised by Andrealphus to embrace her darker thoughts and urges to become more cruel and uncaring.
She didn’t say whatever unit it soon meaning it could be after season two as of the series wants to go into more depth with other stuff they already establish, but haven’t shown yet in the series so most likely we will see in season three at most. A while back people are saying Stella in the scenes was off character. Due to the way, her brother acted but keep in mind. She’s around someone she feels comfortable with someone. She feels vulnerable to meaning the way she’s acting in. That scene is the way you would act with one person you know safe for example in their situation, brother and sister she’s acting like a child and that even if it seems childish she is used to getting her way with him meaning he’ll at least allowed her to do whatever she wanted, but still used her in someway growing up meaning he wasn’t always a good person. He would kind of like hand things to her for example but only because he wanted something out of it and I think that’s what we were seeing in the series.
If Stella has one of the most tragic backstories in Helluva Boss, then I am getting the tissues ready.
IF Stella has one of the most tragic backstories in Helluva Boss, then I'm questioning EVERYTHING..
Even if she has the most tragic backstory... I won't feel bad, bad backstory or not. She's a terrible person who has done terrible things and her backstory won't justify her actions or make me feel sad for her
@@crossanddream2
valid I suppose
@crossanddream2 I mean is she really that bad lol. The imps ate assasins
It would be pretty dark to learn she really don't care about her own child but even in real life queens are just these things to give the king a child to pass the throne to. I wouldn't be that thrilled over my children if my life hang on to if I could give the king a child or not and it had to be the right gender (things I have no control over). Any love I would have for any of my children would be based on the fact that I get to live another day because I was found useful enough to the king. That's fucked up!
I've always liked Stella as a character and to maybe have her brother be more of like a manipulative, gaslighting influence in her from a young age, maybe even encouraging the aranged marriage with Stolas would add some more depth to their relationship, and maybe even her feelings about her daughter Octavia, I would like to maybe see how she and Stolas are like different endings, Stella was taken away from her initial loving relationship with a partner outside the Goetia to be forced with Stolas, while he, still being with her got to choose and love who he wanted (no matter how messy it turned out to be) overall I quite enjoy Stella and would love to see more info about her
Personally there is nothing that will make me sympathize with stella, however i think i would be neat for her to have a motive to her mean ness. Like other than "aur naur my husband cheated on me i never saw this coming :(("
My theory is that Stella was largely raised by her brother Andre. I don't think their parents were in the picture much or at all. Andre gets her to call off the hit on stolias by basically doing the "be a good girl" parent/guardian voice. She likely never had friends growing up and was mostly neglected. The neglect made acting out violently a coping mechanism which became a personality trait.
If it does wind up revealed that Andrealphus messed up the life she really wanted to have only to receive a life that made her into a total witch toward Stolas, maybe she might go from villain to hero. Who knows?
Something that i just thought of that would be extremely interesting is an actual interaction (a few) between Blitzø and Stella.
An interaction with stella would likely make him see himself more clearly, he would see how horrible she acts and it could do some positive development for his self hatred.
And when/if he gets back with stolas, a scene with blitzø mocking stella would just be the icing on the cake. even if the cake might be a lie.
to be honest as someone who's a fan of villains who have more to them than meets the eye like Siren Sara from Willy's Wonderland who was cheated on by her fiance, I can tell that Stella for sure has more to her than meets the eye as I do believe that aggression could've been the ONLY way she was taught as a child to handle her dissatisfaction with something or someone
10:53
"Stolas had an affair with Stolas"
Ah yes the floor here is made out of floor.
Absolutely, my first impression was that Stella had legitimate reassons to be furious-- especially as someone forced to marry someone she doesn't like and have his child-- and that that fury was just exaggerated and made overt to fit the setting and tone of the show. From Stolas's perspective, she's just being evil to be evil. But we've seen how socially and emotionally deaf Stolas can be and how he tends to romanticize things in his head.
Octavia's attitude toward Stolas was the major thing that convinced me that we aren't seeing the full picture, because she seems to only blame Stolas without ever even talking to and barely mentioning Stella despite being clearly aware of Stella's attitude and treatment of Stolas.
I think Stella could end up having a lot of depth despite appearing very shallow in the earlier seasons. I’m glad we’re getting a backstory on her to see her side of things regarding the arranged marriage since it’s likely she was as against it as Stolas was. I also love the idea (though unlikely) of her & Striker developing a sort of romance since it would force both of them to face their own skewed ideals of the other (Stella thinking less of the lower class/Striker hating the royal class). I think there could be a lot of development for both of them & would impose an interesting dynamic
Wow, now this one I can’t wait to see and I hope they do an episode
Where we like to see Why does Striker hate Blue Bloods so much ?
A theory I heard of is that she’s an unwanted child and that her parents only wanted andrealphus. They only had Stella for her to be a wife and future mother and nothing else.
Can't wait to see more of Andrealphus, I love his design. I am also interested in learning about Vassago and would love to see more of Paidmon. ....I have a thing for a lot of the male birds in this series apparently.
I can't wait for a stella episode! She is my favourite! 😊
I hope we get to learn more about Stella and her upbringing tbh. I like her character cause she’s a good villain but I want learn more about her story growing up.
I can wait when she finaly reveals a bit on timeline. I mean what year Hazbin hotel opened or Stolas was born and when he met with blitzø second time
10:56 xD
I love the theory that she is actually a lesbian in the closet but I HATE that the fandom would immediately use that to justify and excuse her abuse towards Stolas.
With no reason at all Stella Stans already say he deserved the abuse.
longer season's exploring the cast of characters i like ok i'm onboard with that.
I always saw Stella as a more complex villain. I'm sad she is only potrayed as cruel in the show. Even the scene where she didn't wanted to go out of bed to comfort Octavia isn't unusual. I think she loves Octavia and would stop everything or even think about it when Octavia gets in danger. We didn't see much of her and I'm glad Vivzie stated that she wants to explore Stella's background.
In Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, when the past is revealed, the character's parents appear innocent but are forced to arrange marriages. It's interesting to see how the villains turned out to be good at first, affecting their children's upbringing with both negative and positive impacts. For instance, Lucifer and Lilith's past before the fall, meeting, and later giving birth to Charlie sparks many theories about the main character's family dynamics and how their behavior changed after having kids.
There is always backgrounds, reasons, and problems in every characters perspective.
After watching this video and some others of yours about this some days ago, I came to the conclusion that Andrelphus is seeking what the Habsburg gained back then on Earth. And by that, I mean how the Habsburg went from the Count at the eastern frontier of the barely united empire that is neither Roman or holy to the King of Spain that also ruled much of the New World and the Philippines, and later, the Kaiser of Austria and King of Hungary. And they usually gained these titles and those lands by marriage alliances but also through committing acts of betrayal like in all classic and typical schemes like most of the European nations back then as well. And if it is necessary, through wars of succession.
So what do you think?
I think it is interesting to think that Stolas has a priviledged position even among the goetia. This really puts yet another spin to how Stolas behaves in the series and the dynamic he has with Blitz.
Honestly Stella getting a backstory is what everyone was asking for. Seriously Villains can be tragic and still be cruel, and i feel like Stella could fit that like a glove. Striker could be the same way.
There are many questions that I want to know is why Stella is this way, was she always like this? I do hope we get a backstory about her youth.
Very ambitious plan. I hope she accomplishes it
My overall idea of Stella’s story is this. She was born, raised by the servants, engaged the second they could manage, and basically kept alive until that day with her purpose being the only identity she had. This caused her to have a very isolated life causing her to act out for attention. The problem is the combination of her high status and the fact that anyone who can discipline her has basically washed their hands of her made her develop a bratty personality. On top of that a lack of a significant upbringing means she lacks in quality herself, It would be easy for an abusive partner to take advantage of her. Because of this, the child of her family how was actually raised with some care (Andrealphus) is using some supposed love she craves to get ahead in his world. He plans on using her with flattery and promises of success to getting Stolas’s job and will throw the clearly bitter EX under the bus at the first chance, and Stella is too dumb and too vain to even see it.
6:33 just that face dude
I want Stella and Striker to be childhood friends. It would be interesting if she only got so angry because she was forced to adhere to the expectations of the Goetia when she was already fond of Striker. So when Stolas got with Blitzo it was salt in an old wound but also opened up her ability to reach out to Striker and help him out without suspicion. It just feels like Striker has some sort of background with Stella and Stolas. In Western Energy, Stolas was standing in front of Stella while getting shot and if Striker had hit Stolas he would've also hit Stella which is why I think Striker missed several shots on purpose and swapped to a lasso instead of continuing to use his guns.
Do we have any reason to believe Stella has any superpowers of her own, other than the implied royal endurance?
Lacking some hereditary superpowers like Stolas's star magic could feel really bad in its own right- being purely a broodmare.
That status as a physical, tangible factor could be a pretty easy factor in why she's so angry and prone to expressions of impotent violence.
Imagine being the Captain Boomerang in a world of Supermen and Wonder Women.
Heh Funny thing I wore a Cruella devil outfit for Halloween a few years ago
I am excited to learn more about Stella story and more about the Goetia as well 🤩🦉😢🥰
I'm going to say something very mean, but the decision of filming Vitzie with a Nutella pot above her head was hysterical
I guess we know which short of helluva boss we're going to see next. I like Stella too and her voice actress has really done a great job she actually gives the character some depth
I mean, if Rusty Venture can have a tragic backstory and be acknowledged as a horrid excuse for a human being in VBros, I think Stella having a tragic backstory isn't a horrible idea.
When I saw your OC I said, leaping out of my chair “MOXXIE!” 💀
What frustrates me is that no one asks about Paimon?! Where tf is he?
11:18 demonizing a demon lol the irony
I hope they flesh out Stella, a villian can have a sad past while still being unforgivable. Like others have said, Stella was forced into marriage just as much as Stolas was.
For the fans saying that her reasns for abusing others is not an excuse, please know that it is to make the character understandable. You can understand someone and not support what they do. You can also choose to forgive but not talk to them anymore.
Let's go another theory these theory's are always great
Stella is one of those villains that I find too ridiculous to understand in the process, but don't worry, we're about to see her respectable backstory and how she became a villain in the first place, this demoness has a possible past to prove in later seasons.
Did Viv confirm that the Goetia are confirmed to be hellborn? 1:47
We've been known this. Goetia aren't sinners and are native to hell.
YESYES, i love stella ♥♥♥
It will be also interesting ti discover who Andrealphus and Stella parents are. Maybe they father is one of the Kings of the Ars Goetia?
I don’t care how sad her backstory is. If I don’t see poetic justice i’m gonna be disappointed.
Her tragic past is not reason enough for her to treat others like they are toys that she can break just because she didn’t like them.
Praying on her downfall 🙏🏻 and I’m not even religious.