Remember the days when you could just go out and buy a toy or just go see a movie that had one trailer and left a little mystery on the table? This pre-order business model is getting tiresome.
ohh I miss those days so much. Also really wish they had continued the Thundercat remake cartoon. It was just starting to get good, and then they canceled, all because of low toy sales because none of the companies could get them out in time.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. There are many valid points in your video. I like using Big Bad Toy Store because I can buy the figures when they are actually available. I will say that the owner of Super 7 does frequent the podcast circuit and provides updates and some insight into product delays. I understand that his updates may not be sufficient for many collectors but I feel he is being as transparent as he can.
And if you look at the Super7 Pre-order update page, the Silverhawks aren't even in production yet: "Tooling approved. Next step is pre-production samples.". I'll be surprised if we see wave one this year even.
I gave Super7 the benefit of the doubt and ordered six of the Thundercats ultimates that represented six of my favorite characters from the original series. I haven't had a chance to really examine their overall quality yet, but I did receive a Pumyra with two left legs. I'm waiting to hear back if BigBad can sort it out or if I have to contact S7 directly. It's a very bad look for a company that claims to love toys as much as S7 does. Their factory oversight seems lacking.
Pumyra seems to be a cursed figure. For me, both the Mattel and Super7 figures had paint issues, Mattel's had this big blotch of unpainted plastic on the back of the head, and Super7's had an unpainted collar
Silverhawks was my favorite show growing up, even more than Thundercats. We never had much money, so I only had a couple figures, and not even Quicksilver at that. I jumped at these (waves 1 & 2) and both RamenToys when they were announced. I've received the RamenToys, but not opened them. I'm bummed hearing your trepidations, but you have always seemed logical and reasonable in your reviews. I'm not planning on canceling because of my passion for the line, but I can totally respect where you are coming from.
That's my biggest issue with S7 they'll announce wave after wave and take forever to release. They have more "coming soon" figures than actual made figures it seems.
He was also mad that they didn't announce the last figure he wanted though. So should they announce it and make him mad that they haven't released the first wave yet, or should they not announce it and do it after they start releasing waves? Can't win, but yeah, whatever the holdup is, it's better to be transparent.
Just discovered your channel! Thank you for the very honest and thoughtful opinion. I don’t own practically any Super7 product but when I found out they were making SILVERHAWKS I literally freaked out. I preordered 2 sets of Wave 1 and a couple extra. Then Wave 2 was announced and I just thought “Ok awesome! We’re in this for the long haul!” Again I preordered 2 sets and extras. Then Wave 3 was announced…now I’m already $1K deep with this line and I have no figures…but I figured Wave 1 would be out soon enough now PLUS I have to have all of them so again I preordered 2 sets and extras. $1500 into this line for months and nothing to show for it but the same preproduction shots and no updates. For this amount of money I could go back and get a nice original loose set. I don’t know the reason why they’re not out yet but for that amount of money I feel Super7 has an obligation to give customers a reasonable timeframe and/or some kind of update. I respect the Super 7 brand but that’s a big fail. If I see a preorder for a Wave 4 before I have Wave 1 in hand I’m officially cancelling it all.
I’m hanging on because Silverhawks were one of my all-time favorites, but I totally understand your rationale here and you’re probably onto something with the WB chaos. Hoping for the best!
I like to just pick stuff up in stores. There's this reason with weird crap happening to preorders and I like the thrill of the hunt. Not knowing what's already out. Feels great.
Our stores haven't gotten anything for a year and a half! I was so desperate the other day I bought a Walmart brand Dinosaur pack for my Savage Land. Has a T-Rex and a not right Raptor. It was only $15. I'm almost 100% online these days!
I’ve been lucky I guess since my local Target and Walmart usually get stuff in every month. It’s a nice surprise when I see something I want online going for 50 but it’s 20-25 in the store. I know not everyone will get stuff in but, been lucky.
I thoroughly enjoy Super 7 and I haven't had an issue with any of the purchases I made in terms of Quality of the product. As far as I can tell, they've been very upfront and honest with the Shipping Delays on the Thundercats Line. Which as of the date of this video has been resolved. I have all five waves of the Thundercats and it is awesome. I especially like how that Ultimate's Line fits in with other Ultimate's Figures from other Brands, specifically the MOTU and Turtles. I look forward to Silverhawks and GI Joe and the eventual Heroes Shelf of all combined brands together and in the same scale. I think Super 7 are doing a wonderful job. I look forward to what comes next.
All of their Ultimates figures felt too expensive to me from the get-go. I've bought some of their ReAction figures, but the ones they try to sell at major retailers for $18-$20 ea are a joke. If they're producing that many of them there's absolutely no reason they should cost that much.
Agreed. I saw wave 2 of GI Joe ReAction and asking for $18+ should be a crime. The Baroness face sculpt was nice but not $20 nice for a low effort 5 poa figure. There's no real excuse for the insane prices they are wanting especially when more popular lines are warming the pegs at half or less price point.
Thank you for always calling out the BS from the toy companies. As prices for everything keep surging, we need to stand our ground and demand more value instead of accepting less.
It's especially the price point that keeps me from rarely ever giving them any business. I get that things are more expensive, but the TMNT Ultimates are too much for my blood, thus why I only ever picked up one, and their Godzilla figures are even worse, getting close to $100 per FIGURE in the 7 inch scale. That combined with all their other issues hardly seems sustainable.
I think the $50 price mark has not sold well- starting to see the Turtles drop to mid-30 in some shops I finally picked up Raphael V2 at Entertainment Earth for $34, which is what they should have started with. Now it's dropped even further to $30 clearance.
I ordered four Thundercats figures directly from Super7 and waited two years to get them all. I’m using Big Bad Toy Store for the Silverhawks, so I’m not out of pocket till they’re ready to ship. It’s a pain for sure.
Super 7 has many issues and the price is more than most collectors are willing to pay! That said Super7 fills a gap that most other companies refuse to fill. I like the Ramen silverhawks and doubled down on their first 2 figures. I love your take and look forward to BIONIC SIX TOYS vid!
Brian Flynn has said in interviews that they cant show the finished paint as its been put on a figure they havent announced yet or it was in a shot with a figure they havent announced yet (hard to keep track of their excuses) but theyve had over a year since they announced them to sort that out, they are the most frustrating company to deal with. Its a shame because they have some great licenses and can produce beautiful figures.
Only figure I'm interested in is Hot Wing. Because the Super 7 version is actually cheaper than the original Kenner and I would like to add him to my black action figure collection.
Just checked Super7's preorder status page for Silverhawks Wave 1 "Tooling approved. Next step is pre-production samples." Looks like its gonna be a while.
If you ever feel pressed to buy something that its supposed to be fun, just dont do it. Thats the wrong feeling, just find something else to have fun. Never buy a toy under preassure.
Thanks for all you do Michael. When I heard about the super 7 figures during their Masters of the universe run I got excited! Finally screen accurate toys! And then I saw that they wanted over half a bill per character. These are toys. And what's worse, these are toys that children could actually play with. There are articulation and playability is very similar to most other toys, and these figures are not unlike the original toys especially the ThunderCats (remember how giant those were compared to the other things in your toy box) but with that $55 price tag per character you almost don't even want to take them out of the box. This is largely why I've stopped collecting anything. If I'm going to pay $55 for something it's going to be a GI Joe figure I can't buy anymore at retail. And given the economy being what it is right now food is a little more important. All this crap with Hasbro pulse super 7 and NECA has basically just made collecting no fun. Along with all of the fans of those respective companies shilling for them constantly. I'll still be watching you but these companies have lost my business permanently.
Super7 is the worst thing that's happened to Retro collectible figures. They seem to hog all the licenses and do fuck all with them. Thundercats is literally one of the most popular 80s retro properties and would've been a gold mine for any company to own, but S7 just pumps out sub-standard garbage at the premium price and can't seem to adhere to the simplest of release schedules. And now we have all these digital renders for Silverhawks and Joe figures that are pretty much just literal false marketing. Posing the figures to clearly fake articulation capabilities as if people don't have eyes to see the models clip into each other. It's honestly impressive how they're still making money due to people who just can't let go of nostalgia even when they know the products are of poor quality.
Its not false advertising. Theyve already shown the actual figures for wave 1 joes. Thundercats wave 5 promo pics were all renders and they turned out exactly exactly as the inages promised.
@@dannycruz5446 Just look at the elbow joints for Monstar in the render; clear clipping of the models just to fake the joint having better range. That's the blatant example. Most of the Hawks won't have the kind of range in the hips like they're showing in the renders, again clipping.
Great review! I've been looking at Super 7 myself and wondering if it's worth my time and money and your review has done a great job of helping me weigh my options and decide to give it a pass until they clean up their act or a better toyline comes along.
I canceled 95% of Super7 orders for the following: A) too many pre-orders at once B) too many delays C) QC issues after those delays D) Not focusing (too many styes between Ultimates, Reaction and so on) E) hypocritical Virtue signalling.
How did you get your preorders canceled? Their site says they don't cancel Preorders, but I have 3 orders i want to cancel. How did you get them to cancel the orders for you?
I have a feeling they will remake all of them with actual metallic high gloss paint. As long as they have the license they are going to milk it. I’ll wait for those
Super 7 slythe and monkian are amazing. I only get the turtles I had as a kid growing up and then I give the vintage one to my son so that’s fun to do. Problem with super 7 is they assume that your buying all of their ultimates lines so the wait in btw waves isn’t too long but most people like myself only collect one or two of the 7-8 ultimates lines that they make
Punchline after seeing some of your past reviews, Playmobil could and would do a better revival of Silverhawk's with better sets and figures and get it out on time. Sure it would be in the Playmobil style but somehow they'd get it more accurate in that form and it would be more available to get.
Premium figures in general are going to be the death of the hobby. When they are done draining genx and old millennials dry. Truthfully the hobbyists as a whole need to walk from boutique toys, but there are too many addicts who can't stop.
There's too much of everything right now. It's overloaded. Just today I saw more TMNT figures... bobbleheads or something. There are like a zillion TMNT figures and tchotchkes on the market and that's just one license. You basically have to just say "no" and come back around in about a year to see what you really actually like. Stop giving in to FOMO and in-the-moment buying.
I'm pretty much done with Super 7. I have all the Thundercats I want. I don't think I have anything else from them coming. I can easily pass on the Silverhawks. I do remember that episode of Star Trek TNG. It was Worf that clogged the toilet. He tried to blame it on someone else. Very cowardly of him. Not honorable. It was all that warrior's drink.
Every Super 7 figure I have preordered I have cancelled. They're just not worth it, the wait time is insane, and the company, like you said, just feels like it's excuse after excuse. I see Super 7 charging 55 bucks for this stuff and then I see things like the freaking CEREAL MASCOT figures that came out a bit ago, half the price and COMPARABLE to Super 7 in sculpt and articulation, only having just a few less accessories. Speaking of those, Super 7 throws all this extra stuff in the box... and I feel like most of it is unnecessary? Like it'll mostly all live in a drawer. Great vid man, totally agree!
Cant say I blame you for cancelling, although it does seem getting the figures after they release wont be hard, I think out of all the Ultimates releases in the past couple years, only Pumyra has sold out. Probably due to QC issues causing needed replacements.
I buy some in stock s7 now and then. Pre order never. Learned me lesson after waiting a year past eta on a figure and got a refund. Bought it when it was actually out like 2 years after it was due.
In theory that’s a solid plan. But what companies see is different. “Well gentlemen it seems no one bought our last pre orders so there must be no interest in this line anymore. We’ll move on to something else.”
Nothing wrong in canceling orders. People tend to change their minds or other problems comes up. Super seven... Have not oder from then... Only ThunderCat villains l want is Sly and or Monkeyan... Price what stops me for many figures! But that's my choice, still, great input on your thoughts! Didn't know the history of what's going on in the background. Keep up the great work! I only have two of the classic Silver Hawks figures! Copper Kid and Buzzsaw!
I canceled My Super 7 Joe preorders and sold my entire TMNT Super 7 stuff. Except for Rocksteady and bebop because they are exceptional. Their price point for what you get just isn’t worth it.
We live in an age where everyone has a 3D printer in their bedroom/basement and doing amazing work with them, yet these big companies with corporate ties can't seem to get their shit together...Wild.
I occasional think "If I had money I wouldn't mind collecting figures again like when I was a kid." Then I hear $55 a figure and I'm just think no way. Unless it was a character I simply adored as a kid I couldn't see me spending that much on a "Well, he was kind of cool in the show." And no way I could handle buying a whole set at $55 a pop per figure. I guess I've just become to cheep in my old age. Or maybe to nostalgic for the prices when I was attempting to collect things. Either way, in the magic land where I have money, I likely not collecting figures. 🤪
@qtsssim Hasbro is releasing two packs of O-Ring style GI Joe figures. For like $50-$60 a pack. Frankly, they know collectors will pay those horrendous prices so they charge those prices. Action Figures as kids toys is nearly a dead art. And its the Toy companies doing the stabbing.
@@mwc1707 I predict we'll keep complaining about this stuff on deaf ears for just so long until most of this generation finally just stops collecting altogether. And that's why they're all trying to push these overpriced TOYS on us so quickly. The toy companies realize when we're done, the next generation isn't going to give a crap and the toy companies will switch to video game production or fidget spinners or virtual doodads. Whatever the cool kids are into now. In any case, toy collecting will be sucked dry and cast to the wayside. The corporations are spearheading the movement and we're cheering them on.
I’ve been happy with S7 continuing Thundercats core characters and the sculpts the 4H started that I fell in love with collecting MOTU classics. It seems you can find anything and everything to complain about a toy company these days. I’m happy with what they’re doing. I know and accept I’m paying a premium but Mattel abandoned us with MOTU Club Grayskull and Thundercats so I’m thrilled to get more of those lines continued.
@@johncaulfield8935 I collecting nothing but Super 7 and they are far from crap. I've never had an issue with a figure and am happily awaiting these SilverHawks as well.
I just checked my e-mails and I pre-ordered just Windhammer from Silverhawks Ultimates Wave 2, back in November of 2021. I picked him because their sculpt was very animation accurate to Rankin/Bass animation style. I have NO idea why it's taking so long to get Wave 1 out there, although I think Wave 1 test shots were shown at SDCC back in July.
Informative video - I was looking to order the new wave of Conan figures from Super7 as I wasn't aware of the issues collectors have. This video definitely saved me some heartache it would seem.
I still have the ultimate sewer samurai Leonardo on preorder (for like a year and a half now) and once/if he ever shows up I think he’s gonna have to be my last super7. I too have been noticing them announcing more and more while actually producing less and less. I’m having flashbacks to megalopolis and premium dna
I don't blame you. I waited forever for Mumm-ra and Tygra, only to have Tygra end up looking like a freak. Bengali is my favorite Thundercat, basically my holy grail toy item, and I couldn't bring myself to pre-order him, and I won't buy him now. Super7 burned me so bad that even considering buying more from them just gives me anxiety. Still waiting for the Joe's I ordered that were already supposed to be out. Super7 sucks!
I rarely buy Super7 since they nearly doubled their price overnight when the Kenner-style Transformers were released. $10 to $18-20. Once in a while they'll have something so cool (to me) that I have to have it, but it's rare. The lack of communication to customers is horrible and pointless. I remember the old Hasbro days of the 90s where I got their customer outreach person to answer a few questions for me in a pseudo email interview, just to share with a small group of collector's at the time. They bent over backwards to maintain that connection and conversation. I've had others in both gaming and toys do the same today. The more he pumps out SDCC exclusives, Boodega, The Worst, and other music/TV licensed merch, the worse this looks.
I don't own any Super7 toys, the only one that was tempting was the Transformers Ultimates Tarn, but now even that isn't tempting anymore because one is coming in the Legacy toyline. But I don't like them, the ReAction line is far far too expensive for a line of 5P figures.
Thanks for making my day (I think) by telling me about Tarn. I am an old G1 TF fan, but I like some of the Bots outside of it (even though I don't know the stories behind most, or any other cartoon variations)..... BUT.... (capitals)... BUT..... I was introduced to Tarn in the IDW TF comics (before they went to shit). Loved the character and was surprised to find it wasn't some just made up character.... I saw some super delux version which cost a King's ransom, and it looked like one of the best bots I ever saw... I fear they might not get it comic-wise, but now I know there is a chance it might be good in the Legacy line (better than nothing, I''ll look and if its a winner I'll be stoked).
NECA and Super 7 are way too expensive to try and get everything in a line... Why can't these classic, nostalgia driven collections end up in the hands of someone like McFarlane? My god, his figures are done well, are detailed and he even does vehicles for 6-7" scale...none of them break the bank. Hell the upcoming Avatar figs and creatures look very cool. $20-25 per fig you could get all the core Silverhawks for $100-120. I don't need or want multiple heads and hands when the one that holds the weapons are the ones that are always on, AND it is a pain in the butt to keep up with all those extras. I never had the original Silverhawks except for Bluegrass because I wanted the Mirage eventually. In a pinch, I pretended some of my GI Joe's were SH's because the were the way I wished the figs back then would've been articulated. The dream for awesome Silverhawks go on.
Nowadays McFarlane Toys and GI Joe Classified series are where I get the best bang for my buck. NECA has lost their minds with their pricing. Every other set they release they bump the price up more while the QC continues to drop and they pump out so much TMNT they're going to have to start sculpting random background extras just to keep the line going.
I can tell you that the final paint jobs should be metallic / chrome. This is after to talking to someone from Super7. They assured me the final paint deco looks amazing and will not be flat.
Eh, the Wave 2 of Thundercat's was explained early on in the delay when Brian said that Jurassic Park took over priority in their factory they were using and that delayed that specific wave for a long while. Since then, we've been getting waves pretty consistently. I know Lio's video was mad about that but it was explained previously. Also, Brian said that they didn't go Vac Metal because of the chipping and how it would alter articulation because of the type of plastic required. As for the no double joints, I do wish they did have double joints, but Brian has said that they wanted to go for aesthetics and choose the figures looking good on a shelf versus being good at action posing. So it is a choice they made and I can understand the choice even if I don't like it as much as having the posability.
What you say makes sense, and honestly I didn't know I could cancel my pre-order. Going by what it says on their site though it doesn't look possible. It says "Our pre-orders are final sale and we are unable to cancel or issue a refund for them."
I canceled my thunder tank order and Thundercats orders because they keep planning new figures and yet continue delaying. Prices are excessive as well.
I'd only heard of *Super7* recently, but they sound like they're big on _ideas_ for figures, but not so great in executing an actual line in practical terms. Don't they have _Simpsons_ figures that still haven't shown up yet? It reminds me of when I was 16 and liked to draw up ideal action figures I'd want to see for certain characters; I'd sketch out the appearance, scale, articulation and appropriate accessories. Still have the sketch books from back then - but that's all they ever were: *sketches.* Concepts that would never be and I'd never dream of charging money for them. Seems to me *Super7* have built their whole business model around the phrase _"wouldn't it be nice if...?"_ Smart move bailing out.
The biggest issue is they kinda locked themselves into a certain string of factories and the classics, now ultimates form factor. If you remember back to all the issues the mattel made masters classics had, super7 is working out of the same factories, on a smaller budget, in smaller quantities. So i'd go so far and even their execution plans aren't terribly flawed, they just set themselves up with the steepest slopes to conquer. I'm not defending them, cause they are number 3 on my disliked toy company list, just trying to clarify that without reaproaching their entire system they've painted themselves into an inescapable corner.
I was just like you...until I took an arrow to the kn...no, I was and still are, then I learnt 3d modeling, bought a 3d printer and made MY mandalorian figure they way I think it should be made! Kenner style. So Kenner Super Powers have stopped being produced decades ago? Well not for me!! Muahahahaha!! I see myself out
@@StormX6 I think Super 7 deals in money laundering. Also, I hate how they announce 2-4 more waves of figures before anyone gets the first wave of figures
what in the world is going on with these companies today in the modern world of the 2020's? it seems the more advanced we are as a society the incompetence keeps getting ratcheted up immensely. even Mattel with their exclusive crap issues and Hasbro with the dam Haslab crap.I'm just grabbing things here and there that I like at collector shops, all be it for a bit more but I'm not going to bother with their online ordering right from them, it's a hassle all together and first and foremost a gamble, awesome vid Mike, keep it up, a longtime fan!
Everything is crap nowadays. Back in the 80s the action figure market was booming, you had so many different lines and multiple cartoons too. If you couldn't get or wanted a mainstream line like G.I.Joe or He-Man, you could go K-B Toys and find some weird, B-grade toy line like Supernaturals or Sky Commandos. Even parts of the 90s were decent. But I think given the fact that it was a new territory for a lot of companies and sadly those companies didn't last beyond the 80s, but now..seems like it's too risky for new companies, too expensive in some regards. But....I do think there is a lack of imagination these days especially compared to the 80s. That and there are so many different t.v. channels, streaming apps...it's hard to get kids to even get behind a new toy line. It is weird how you would think it would be easier to mass produce toys these days, but from everything I've heard, it's actually more expensive than it was in the 80s. In my opinion, society took a big nose dive around 2004 or so ..music these days is crap, fashion is crap, t.v. is a joke, movies are just remakes and redos..it seems everything today is boring and stale. Nothing progressing , almost like "well, there's nothing new to do so..it's all been done before so why bother"
OMG!!! I thought I was the only one! I started with the Ninja Turtles wave 1 because I was a big fan of the toys in the early 90s. And I loved that they looked like improved versions of those same toys. Not like Neca doing the cartoon and film versions. I wanted MY toys. You know? So I started collecting. And the first four waves seemed to roll out pretty good. Then two things happened simultaneously. First was the turtle van. Then they started grabbing up licenses like Mcfarlane back in the late 90s. And they’ve been on a streak the last year of announcing line after line of different licenses up to like the next three years or something. But suddenly the turtles are way backed up. A bunch of other lines are backed up. I’m betting on my van in 2024 now at best. And I’m starting to see that dip in quality. And I think with the Thindercats line, they screwed up by trying to make them look like the show. That’s a Neca thing. I think they would’ve looked better if they kept them looking like the toys for that sweet nostalgia bump. But that’s just my opinion. But yes, I’m starting to agree with you. I’m not seeing the point in preorders from Super7. And I think I’d rather see the figure in hand before committing that kind of cheddar anymore
You made a good rational choice. Seeing how the actual figures look nothing like the renders you've saved yourself from that mess. I don't see the figures matching the prices they ask for so I steered away from pulling the trigger on anything with them. That's just how I feel about Super 7 personally.
There are times I wish old toy lines would make a comeback. For example I always wanted someone to revive Dino Riders. Now, seeing how companies run things I am not sure I want that anymore.
I understand but I am still sticking with them, if they come out great, if not I am cool. Honestly as I scale back from modern collecting I am Happy to get a nice break, they can take all the time. Even if they don't finish I am fine. The industry is broken overall and that is the truth.
They should just do it the old way. Get the factory, the u.s. employees, the tooling, etc and just do it and send to the brick and mortar retailers. Does big bad have brick and mortar? If they don't, they could.
The one line that I would like to see brought back in it's original form or slightly updated is hands down M.A.S.K. No other line comes close on my list.
Hmmm interesting....I agree and disagree on some of your takes and no I'm not a Super 7 shill...But I will say the price tag they've been asking is a bit steep but then again I don't mind the Thundercats figures at all. For the price point, I feel they could have way more articulation. Hell Mattel Masterverse and G.I.Joe Classified give you more articulation for a cheaper price point with better detail IMO. Finally, I thought it was just me or maybe I missed a pre-order window being I received one set of Thundercats before the other. So these are great points and facts you're bringing forth along with good opinions.Keep up the excellent work Retroblasting I'll be looking forward to your next video. P.S. I did not cancel my Silverhawks Super 7 preorder as I want to review them and give my honest opinion.
I am having the same issue with the Neca D&D Warduke figure I ordered last year to arrive in March of this year which became April....now supposedly October. A kickstarter campaign would have been released already by now.
Im sorta happy i never got into Silverhawks.. I have the core S7 Turtles and Thundercats and awaiting my Thundertank, i went from being excited to receiving a figure to being excited that im finally done buying figures from them. Ive had to repaint four figures.. legs and arms are floppy at random.. they are just MEH.. but I will admit they to look good on my shelf.
Super 7 also has too many Ultimate lines at once, when they can't deliver on them. TMNT, GI JOE, Thundercats, Transformers, Simpsons, Silverhawks, Power Rangers, Wrestling, Disney characters.. They have Ultimate lines for all of those.
I was never into silver hawks as a kid but I did preorder the pre transformation monstar cause I do remember him and he looks awesome. Every time someone asks Bryan Flynn about the paint he always says he has a sample of it but it’s painted on something that they can’t show yet cause it’s from a line that they didn’t announce yet. Wtf just show a little piece of it zoom the camera in do something
Remember the days when you could just go out and buy a toy or just go see a movie that had one trailer and left a little mystery on the table? This pre-order business model is getting tiresome.
Ah the good ol’ days!
ohh I miss those days so much. Also really wish they had continued the Thundercat remake cartoon. It was just starting to get good, and then they canceled, all because of low toy sales because none of the companies could get them out in time.
eBay ruined "going to the store" for many of us. The reseller market is something that wasn't a behemoth like it is today back then.
No. XP
such a nonsensical comment.
Super7 Business Plan:
Phase 1) Announce toys
Phase 2) Announce more toys
Phase 3) ????
Phase 4) Profit...?
LOL that sounds like the Underpants Gnomes from South Park!
I've got a ton of Super7 toys in my collection room and garage... so they are sending out quite a bit.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. There are many valid points in your video. I like using Big Bad Toy Store because I can buy the figures when they are actually available. I will say that the owner of Super 7 does frequent the podcast circuit and provides updates and some insight into product delays. I understand that his updates may not be sufficient for many collectors but I feel he is being as transparent as he can.
And if you look at the Super7 Pre-order update page, the Silverhawks aren't even in production yet: "Tooling approved. Next step is pre-production samples.". I'll be surprised if we see wave one this year even.
Been like that for over six months
Wave 1 still on "tooling approved" ?!
They announced wave 1 last year...
Next year 🤙🏻
I gave Super7 the benefit of the doubt and ordered six of the Thundercats ultimates that represented six of my favorite characters from the original series. I haven't had a chance to really examine their overall quality yet, but I did receive a Pumyra with two left legs. I'm waiting to hear back if BigBad can sort it out or if I have to contact S7 directly. It's a very bad look for a company that claims to love toys as much as S7 does. Their factory oversight seems lacking.
Pumyra seems to be a cursed figure. For me, both the Mattel and Super7 figures had paint issues, Mattel's had this big blotch of unpainted plastic on the back of the head, and Super7's had an unpainted collar
Pumyra had two left legs in the cartoon.
@@droiduseruserdroid1731 it's why he don't dance y'know.
@@droiduseruserdroid1731 😂😂
The only worse company is Bandai via BluFin Brands. OMG the experiential story I have about them is jaw dropping....
Looks like you have all the silver hawks you’ll ever need behind you in my opinion.
300% agreed
Silverhawks was my favorite show growing up, even more than Thundercats. We never had much money, so I only had a couple figures, and not even Quicksilver at that. I jumped at these (waves 1 & 2) and both RamenToys when they were announced. I've received the RamenToys, but not opened them. I'm bummed hearing your trepidations, but you have always seemed logical and reasonable in your reviews. I'm not planning on canceling because of my passion for the line, but I can totally respect where you are coming from.
That's my biggest issue with S7 they'll announce wave after wave and take forever to release. They have more "coming soon" figures than actual made figures it seems.
He was also mad that they didn't announce the last figure he wanted though. So should they announce it and make him mad that they haven't released the first wave yet, or should they not announce it and do it after they start releasing waves? Can't win, but yeah, whatever the holdup is, it's better to be transparent.
Just discovered your channel! Thank you for the very honest and thoughtful opinion. I don’t own practically any Super7 product but when I found out they were making SILVERHAWKS I literally freaked out. I preordered 2 sets of Wave 1 and a couple extra. Then Wave 2 was announced and I just thought “Ok awesome! We’re in this for the long haul!” Again I preordered 2 sets and extras. Then Wave 3 was announced…now I’m already $1K deep with this line and I have no figures…but I figured Wave 1 would be out soon enough now PLUS I have to have all of them so again I preordered 2 sets and extras. $1500 into this line for months and nothing to show for it but the same preproduction shots and no updates. For this amount of money I could go back and get a nice original loose set. I don’t know the reason why they’re not out yet but for that amount of money I feel Super7 has an obligation to give customers a reasonable timeframe and/or some kind of update. I respect the Super 7 brand but that’s a big fail. If I see a preorder for a Wave 4 before I have Wave 1 in hand I’m officially cancelling it all.
Bro this video is fantastic! You took all my thoughts over the years and put them in a video. Keep preaching!!! Thanks
Bionic 6, star comm, crash test dummies, Batman ‘89 & Returns, barnyard commandos.❤ I’m hoping at least one of these has been redone
Because of this I’m pulling the plug on mine as well. Thank you for the extra information pertaining to it!
I’m hanging on because Silverhawks were one of my all-time favorites, but I totally understand your rationale here and you’re probably onto something with the WB chaos. Hoping for the best!
Michael's blunt honesty used to irk me, now I sing along.
RamenToy QS is not perfect but "bad" is extreme
I like to just pick stuff up in stores. There's this reason with weird crap happening to preorders and I like the thrill of the hunt. Not knowing what's already out. Feels great.
It's a good way to save money since most stuff never shows up in stores.
Our stores haven't gotten anything for a year and a half! I was so desperate the other day I bought a Walmart brand Dinosaur pack for my Savage Land. Has a T-Rex and a not right Raptor. It was only $15. I'm almost 100% online these days!
I’ve been lucky I guess since my local Target and Walmart usually get stuff in every month. It’s a nice surprise when I see something I want online going for 50 but it’s 20-25 in the store. I know not everyone will get stuff in but, been lucky.
I think 90% of technology made today is built to Enterprise-D specifications, not just toys.
I think 99% of 'Entertainment' made today is built to LESS than Enterprise-D specifications.
Nice video Michael. I didn't know that was going on with Super 7 and the possibility of not getting Copper Kid. Yeah that would suck majorly!
I thoroughly enjoy Super 7 and I haven't had an issue with any of the purchases I made in terms of Quality of the product. As far as I can tell, they've been very upfront and honest with the Shipping Delays on the Thundercats Line. Which as of the date of this video has been resolved. I have all five waves of the Thundercats and it is awesome. I especially like how that Ultimate's Line fits in with other Ultimate's Figures from other Brands, specifically the MOTU and Turtles. I look forward to Silverhawks and GI Joe and the eventual Heroes Shelf of all combined brands together and in the same scale. I think Super 7 are doing a wonderful job. I look forward to what comes next.
Good for you
agreed on all points
Is that you Brian Flynn?
The Enterprise D of toy companies... damn that's a good burn, and you backed it up.
The thundercats are doing pretty good now
We're talking about Silverhawks, not Thundercats
Well he said he didn’t care for the thundercats line either and I said they been doing better now. So mine your business
All of their Ultimates figures felt too expensive to me from the get-go. I've bought some of their ReAction figures, but the ones they try to sell at major retailers for $18-$20 ea are a joke. If they're producing that many of them there's absolutely no reason they should cost that much.
Agreed. I saw wave 2 of GI Joe ReAction and asking for $18+ should be a crime. The Baroness face sculpt was nice but not $20 nice for a low effort 5 poa figure. There's no real excuse for the insane prices they are wanting especially when more popular lines are warming the pegs at half or less price point.
I haven't paid full price for a ReAction figure since like 2015 when they were still $10 a pop. No thank you
@@katenunyabizness9221 5 POA = 1 POS
Super 7's stuff is ridiculously overpriced. Especially their 5 poa reaction figures.
Agreed... they shouldn't be more than 12 bucks
@@Ilkvomit That's when I buy them when they are discounted for $12 or less.
@@cobracommander9138 They probably would be if they didn’t have to pay Hasbro a licensing fee.
@@shootermcgavin1208 Probably not. That's standard price now for any S7 ReAction figure.
Hmm, last bunch of figures I bought was Final Faction. It was well worth the $1.00-$1.25 apiece. And plenty of accessories to boot.
Thank you for always calling out the BS from the toy companies. As prices for everything keep surging, we need to stand our ground and demand more value instead of accepting less.
It's especially the price point that keeps me from rarely ever giving them any business. I get that things are more expensive, but the TMNT Ultimates are too much for my blood, thus why I only ever picked up one, and their Godzilla figures are even worse, getting close to $100 per FIGURE in the 7 inch scale. That combined with all their other issues hardly seems sustainable.
I think the $50 price mark has not sold well- starting to see the Turtles drop to mid-30 in some shops I finally picked up Raphael V2 at Entertainment Earth for $34, which is what they should have started with. Now it's dropped even further to $30 clearance.
I ordered four Thundercats figures directly from Super7 and waited two years to get them all. I’m using Big Bad Toy Store for the Silverhawks, so I’m not out of pocket till they’re ready to ship. It’s a pain for sure.
Respect. Preordered S7 Silverhawks Villains. I like Brian and his team. I think they do a great job in the world of titan toy companies.
Super 7 has many issues and the price is more than most collectors are willing to pay! That said Super7 fills a gap that most other companies refuse to fill. I like the Ramen silverhawks and doubled down on their first 2 figures. I love your take and look forward to BIONIC SIX TOYS vid!
I would love to see commemorative series.
Available to everyone!!! All fans new & old!!! Great video
Logical Reasoning 💯⭐️
Brian Flynn has said in interviews that they cant show the finished paint as its been put on a figure they havent announced yet or it was in a shot with a figure they havent announced yet (hard to keep track of their excuses) but theyve had over a year since they announced them to sort that out, they are the most frustrating company to deal with. Its a shame because they have some great licenses and can produce beautiful figures.
Only figure I'm interested in is Hot Wing. Because the Super 7 version is actually cheaper than the original Kenner and I would like to add him to my black action figure collection.
Just checked Super7's preorder status page for Silverhawks Wave 1 "Tooling approved. Next step is pre-production samples." Looks like its gonna be a while.
I've been getting this feeling about a lot of smaller companies these days.
If you ever feel pressed to buy something that its supposed to be fun, just dont do it. Thats the wrong feeling, just find something else to have fun. Never buy a toy under preassure.
Order what you like and what you will have fun with. If it's not ready on time then move on ........... Nuff Said
Thanks for all you do Michael. When I heard about the super 7 figures during their Masters of the universe run I got excited! Finally screen accurate toys! And then I saw that they wanted over half a bill per character. These are toys. And what's worse, these are toys that children could actually play with. There are articulation and playability is very similar to most other toys, and these figures are not unlike the original toys especially the ThunderCats (remember how giant those were compared to the other things in your toy box) but with that $55 price tag per character you almost don't even want to take them out of the box. This is largely why I've stopped collecting anything. If I'm going to pay $55 for something it's going to be a GI Joe figure I can't buy anymore at retail. And given the economy being what it is right now food is a little more important. All this crap with Hasbro pulse super 7 and NECA has basically just made collecting no fun. Along with all of the fans of those respective companies shilling for them constantly. I'll still be watching you but these companies have lost my business permanently.
Super7 is the worst thing that's happened to Retro collectible figures. They seem to hog all the licenses and do fuck all with them. Thundercats is literally one of the most popular 80s retro properties and would've been a gold mine for any company to own, but S7 just pumps out sub-standard garbage at the premium price and can't seem to adhere to the simplest of release schedules.
And now we have all these digital renders for Silverhawks and Joe figures that are pretty much just literal false marketing. Posing the figures to clearly fake articulation capabilities as if people don't have eyes to see the models clip into each other. It's honestly impressive how they're still making money due to people who just can't let go of nostalgia even when they know the products are of poor quality.
Its not false advertising. Theyve already shown the actual figures for wave 1 joes. Thundercats wave 5 promo pics were all renders and they turned out exactly exactly as the inages promised.
I think you overestimate how much of a following there is for Thundercats these days.
@@dannycruz5446 Just look at the elbow joints for Monstar in the render; clear clipping of the models just to fake the joint having better range. That's the blatant example. Most of the Hawks won't have the kind of range in the hips like they're showing in the renders, again clipping.
Thank for saying you are finalizing Bionic Six. Been waiting on that video forever Michael lol.
80-90 bucks? I've paid up to 20 bucks a figure! 80-90 bucks is really pushing it!
Great review! I've been looking at Super 7 myself and wondering if it's worth my time and money and your review has done a great job of helping me weigh my options and decide to give it a pass until they clean up their act or a better toyline comes along.
I canceled 95% of Super7 orders for the following: A) too many pre-orders at once B) too many delays C) QC issues after those delays D) Not focusing (too many styes between Ultimates, Reaction and so on) E) hypocritical Virtue signalling.
How did you get your preorders canceled? Their site says they don't cancel Preorders, but I have 3 orders i want to cancel. How did you get them to cancel the orders for you?
@@djinert Sadly Big Bad Toy Store is how I pre-order. In your case I would either have to cancel the card or call the bank to refuse the charge.
I have a feeling they will remake all of them with actual metallic high gloss paint. As long as they have the license they are going to milk it. I’ll wait for those
Super 7 slythe and monkian are amazing. I only get the turtles I had as a kid growing up and then I give the vintage one to my son so that’s fun to do. Problem with super 7 is they assume that your buying all of their ultimates lines so the wait in btw waves isn’t too long but most people like myself only collect one or two of the 7-8 ultimates lines that they make
Yeah, I started collecting Thundercats super7 I’m just buying them once they are actually out and not pre-orders
I assumed they would have tested the demand by putting out a reaction style silverhawks line.
Punchline after seeing some of your past reviews, Playmobil could and would do a better revival of Silverhawk's with better sets and figures and get it out on time. Sure it would be in the Playmobil style but somehow they'd get it more accurate in that form and it would be more available to get.
Premium figures in general are going to be the death of the hobby. When they are done draining genx and old millennials dry. Truthfully the hobbyists as a whole need to walk from boutique toys, but there are too many addicts who can't stop.
You're not wrong lol
There's too much of everything right now. It's overloaded. Just today I saw more TMNT figures... bobbleheads or something. There are like a zillion TMNT figures and tchotchkes on the market and that's just one license. You basically have to just say "no" and come back around in about a year to see what you really actually like. Stop giving in to FOMO and in-the-moment buying.
I'm pretty much done with Super 7. I have all the Thundercats I want. I don't think I have anything else from them coming. I can easily pass on the Silverhawks. I do remember that episode of Star Trek TNG. It was Worf that clogged the toilet. He tried to blame it on someone else. Very cowardly of him. Not honorable. It was all that warrior's drink.
Every Super 7 figure I have preordered I have cancelled. They're just not worth it, the wait time is insane, and the company, like you said, just feels like it's excuse after excuse. I see Super 7 charging 55 bucks for this stuff and then I see things like the freaking CEREAL MASCOT figures that came out a bit ago, half the price and COMPARABLE to Super 7 in sculpt and articulation, only having just a few less accessories. Speaking of those, Super 7 throws all this extra stuff in the box... and I feel like most of it is unnecessary? Like it'll mostly all live in a drawer.
Great vid man, totally agree!
Cant say I blame you for cancelling, although it does seem getting the figures after they release wont be hard, I think out of all the Ultimates releases in the past couple years, only Pumyra has sold out. Probably due to QC issues causing needed replacements.
I think that the best way to go is to not do preorders at all, then toy companies will have to get product to stores to keep their lines going.
100% agreement with you. This preorder craze must come to a end
I buy some in stock s7 now and then. Pre order never. Learned me lesson after waiting a year past eta on a figure and got a refund. Bought it when it was actually out like 2 years after it was due.
In theory that’s a solid plan. But what companies see is different. “Well gentlemen it seems no one bought our last pre orders so there must be no interest in this line anymore. We’ll move on to something else.”
That is brilliant, and I agree wholeheartedly
Nothing wrong in canceling orders. People tend to change their minds or other problems comes up. Super seven... Have not oder from then... Only ThunderCat villains l want is Sly and or Monkeyan... Price what stops me for many figures! But that's my choice, still, great input on your thoughts! Didn't know the history of what's going on in the background. Keep up the great work! I only have two of the classic Silver Hawks figures! Copper Kid and Buzzsaw!
I canceled My Super 7 Joe preorders and sold my entire TMNT Super 7 stuff. Except for Rocksteady and bebop because they are exceptional. Their price point for what you get just isn’t worth it.
We live in an age where everyone has a 3D printer in their bedroom/basement and doing amazing work with them, yet these big companies with corporate ties can't seem to get their shit together...Wild.
Preach Brother
Love ya brother, I'm at serving at his majesty pleasure and am trying to keep up here and there. Always your number one my friend. Love to Melinda x
I think Retro tickled himself with the Star Trek joke he told about the Ent. D bc you can see him holding back the laughter 😆
Absolutely love the way you express criticism. I can tell you do this for your own peace of mind vs. clickbait.
I occasional think "If I had money I wouldn't mind collecting figures again like when I was a kid." Then I hear $55 a figure and I'm just think no way. Unless it was a character I simply adored as a kid I couldn't see me spending that much on a "Well, he was kind of cool in the show." And no way I could handle buying a whole set at $55 a pop per figure.
I guess I've just become to cheep in my old age. Or maybe to nostalgic for the prices when I was attempting to collect things. Either way, in the magic land where I have money, I likely not collecting figures. 🤪
@qtsssim Hasbro is releasing two packs of O-Ring style GI Joe figures. For like $50-$60 a pack. Frankly, they know collectors will pay those horrendous prices so they charge those prices.
Action Figures as kids toys is nearly a dead art. And its the Toy companies doing the stabbing.
@@mwc1707 I predict we'll keep complaining about this stuff on deaf ears for just so long until most of this generation finally just stops collecting altogether. And that's why they're all trying to push these overpriced TOYS on us so quickly. The toy companies realize when we're done, the next generation isn't going to give a crap and the toy companies will switch to video game production or fidget spinners or virtual doodads. Whatever the cool kids are into now. In any case, toy collecting will be sucked dry and cast to the wayside. The corporations are spearheading the movement and we're cheering them on.
I’ve been happy with S7 continuing Thundercats core characters and the sculpts the 4H started that I fell in love with collecting MOTU classics. It seems you can find anything and everything to complain about a toy company these days. I’m happy with what they’re doing. I know and accept I’m paying a premium but Mattel abandoned us with MOTU Club Grayskull and Thundercats so I’m thrilled to get more of those lines continued.
So you’re willing to consume crap?
No. I usually ignore the haters.
@@johncaulfield8935 I collecting nothing but Super 7 and they are far from crap. I've never had an issue with a figure and am happily awaiting these SilverHawks as well.
I bought the Thundercats Ultimates Bengali because he was a toy I always wanted as a kid 🤷♂️
@@jamievaughn1485 why do they keep using articulation that was out of date 20 years ago? I dont get it. Ive bought tcatz. Legit question 🤔
I refused to buy anything Super7 due to their insane prices and constant delays.
The figures are not good quality either
I just checked my e-mails and I pre-ordered just Windhammer from Silverhawks Ultimates Wave 2, back in November of 2021. I picked him because their sculpt was very animation accurate to Rankin/Bass animation style. I have NO idea why it's taking so long to get Wave 1 out there, although I think Wave 1 test shots were shown at SDCC back in July.
I was under the impression that Super 7owns the Silverhawks IP. Warner Brothers shouldn’t be an issue.
Informative video - I was looking to order the new wave of Conan figures from Super7 as I wasn't aware of the issues collectors have. This video definitely saved me some heartache it would seem.
…..someone better pick up that phone….
I still have the ultimate sewer samurai Leonardo on preorder (for like a year and a half now) and once/if he ever shows up I think he’s gonna have to be my last super7. I too have been noticing them announcing more and more while actually producing less and less. I’m having flashbacks to megalopolis and premium dna
I don't blame you. I waited forever for Mumm-ra and Tygra, only to have Tygra end up looking like a freak. Bengali is my favorite Thundercat, basically my holy grail toy item, and I couldn't bring myself to pre-order him, and I won't buy him now. Super7 burned me so bad that even considering buying more from them just gives me anxiety. Still waiting for the Joe's I ordered that were already supposed to be out. Super7 sucks!
My understanding is that Super 7 owns Silver Hawks straight up. The company that holds the rights is owned by Brian Flynn.
I rarely buy Super7 since they nearly doubled their price overnight when the Kenner-style Transformers were released. $10 to $18-20. Once in a while they'll have something so cool (to me) that I have to have it, but it's rare. The lack of communication to customers is horrible and pointless. I remember the old Hasbro days of the 90s where I got their customer outreach person to answer a few questions for me in a pseudo email interview, just to share with a small group of collector's at the time. They bent over backwards to maintain that connection and conversation. I've had others in both gaming and toys do the same today. The more he pumps out SDCC exclusives, Boodega, The Worst, and other music/TV licensed merch, the worse this looks.
I don't own any Super7 toys, the only one that was tempting was the Transformers Ultimates Tarn, but now even that isn't tempting anymore because one is coming in the Legacy toyline. But I don't like them, the ReAction line is far far too expensive for a line of 5P figures.
Thanks for making my day (I think) by telling me about Tarn. I am an old G1 TF fan, but I like some of the Bots outside of it (even though I don't know the stories behind most, or any other cartoon variations)..... BUT.... (capitals)... BUT..... I was introduced to Tarn in the IDW TF comics (before they went to shit). Loved the character and was surprised to find it wasn't some just made up character.... I saw some super delux version which cost a King's ransom, and it looked like one of the best bots I ever saw... I fear they might not get it comic-wise, but now I know there is a chance it might be good in the Legacy line (better than nothing, I''ll look and if its a winner I'll be stoked).
Once they make the 1st wave of main characters they'll make the metallic "Toy" variant, guaranteed
Be lucky if the first versions ever ship.
exactly! Anyone not realizing that a "toy deco" version would be getting released eventually is new to the game.
NECA and Super 7 are way too expensive to try and get everything in a line... Why can't these classic, nostalgia driven collections end up in the hands of someone like McFarlane? My god, his figures are done well, are detailed and he even does vehicles for 6-7" scale...none of them break the bank. Hell the upcoming Avatar figs and creatures look very cool. $20-25 per fig you could get all the core Silverhawks for $100-120. I don't need or want multiple heads and hands when the one that holds the weapons are the ones that are always on, AND it is a pain in the butt to keep up with all those extras.
I never had the original Silverhawks except for Bluegrass because I wanted the Mirage eventually. In a pinch, I pretended some of my GI Joe's were SH's because the were the way I wished the figs back then would've been articulated. The dream for awesome Silverhawks go on.
Nowadays McFarlane Toys and GI Joe Classified series are where I get the best bang for my buck. NECA has lost their minds with their pricing. Every other set they release they bump the price up more while the QC continues to drop and they pump out so much TMNT they're going to have to start sculpting random background extras just to keep the line going.
I can tell you that the final paint jobs should be metallic / chrome. This is after to talking to someone from Super7. They assured me the final paint deco looks amazing and will not be flat.
Eh, the Wave 2 of Thundercat's was explained early on in the delay when Brian said that Jurassic Park took over priority in their factory they were using and that delayed that specific wave for a long while. Since then, we've been getting waves pretty consistently. I know Lio's video was mad about that but it was explained previously.
Also, Brian said that they didn't go Vac Metal because of the chipping and how it would alter articulation because of the type of plastic required. As for the no double joints, I do wish they did have double joints, but Brian has said that they wanted to go for aesthetics and choose the figures looking good on a shelf versus being good at action posing. So it is a choice they made and I can understand the choice even if I don't like it as much as having the posability.
What you say makes sense, and honestly I didn't know I could cancel my pre-order. Going by what it says on their site though it doesn't look possible. It says "Our pre-orders are final sale and we are unable to cancel or issue a refund for them."
I canceled my thunder tank order and Thundercats orders because they keep planning new figures and yet continue delaying. Prices are excessive as well.
I don't disagree with you Mike but I'll say that I do like their Work on the G.I.Joe line mostly because they reminded me of Kenner Starwars figures
I'd only heard of *Super7* recently, but they sound like they're big on _ideas_ for figures, but not so great in executing an actual line in practical terms. Don't they have _Simpsons_ figures that still haven't shown up yet?
It reminds me of when I was 16 and liked to draw up ideal action figures I'd want to see for certain characters; I'd sketch out the appearance, scale, articulation and appropriate accessories. Still have the sketch books from back then - but that's all they ever were: *sketches.* Concepts that would never be and I'd never dream of charging money for them. Seems to me *Super7* have built their whole business model around the phrase _"wouldn't it be nice if...?"_
Smart move bailing out.
The biggest issue is they kinda locked themselves into a certain string of factories and the classics, now ultimates form factor.
If you remember back to all the issues the mattel made masters classics had, super7 is working out of the same factories, on a smaller budget, in smaller quantities.
So i'd go so far and even their execution plans aren't terribly flawed, they just set themselves up with the steepest slopes to conquer.
I'm not defending them, cause they are number 3 on my disliked toy company list, just trying to clarify that without reaproaching their entire system they've painted themselves into an inescapable corner.
I was just like you...until I took an arrow to the kn...no, I was and still are, then I learnt 3d modeling, bought a 3d printer and made MY mandalorian figure they way I think it should be made! Kenner style. So Kenner Super Powers have stopped being produced decades ago? Well not for me!! Muahahahaha!!
I see myself out
I agree. Like these figures looked impressive and all, but they’ve been delayed so much. I’m starting to think S7 may not release any of them at all.
@@djaxisravenguard Number 3? Who are the first two?
@@StormX6 I think Super 7 deals in money laundering. Also, I hate how they announce 2-4 more waves of figures before anyone gets the first wave of figures
what in the world is going on with these companies today in the modern world of the 2020's? it seems the more advanced we are as a society the incompetence keeps getting ratcheted up immensely. even Mattel with their exclusive crap issues and Hasbro with the dam Haslab crap.I'm just grabbing things here and there that I like at collector shops, all be it for a bit more but I'm not going to bother with their online ordering right from them, it's a hassle all together and first and foremost a gamble, awesome vid Mike, keep it up, a longtime fan!
Everything is crap nowadays. Back in the 80s the action figure market was booming, you had so many different lines and multiple cartoons too. If you couldn't get or wanted a mainstream line like G.I.Joe or He-Man, you could go K-B Toys and find some weird, B-grade toy line like Supernaturals or Sky Commandos. Even parts of the 90s were decent. But I think given the fact that it was a new territory for a lot of companies and sadly those companies didn't last beyond the 80s, but now..seems like it's too risky for new companies, too expensive in some regards. But....I do think there is a lack of imagination these days especially compared to the 80s. That and there are so many different t.v. channels, streaming apps...it's hard to get kids to even get behind a new toy line. It is weird how you would think it would be easier to mass produce toys these days, but from everything I've heard, it's actually more expensive than it was in the 80s. In my opinion, society took a big nose dive around 2004 or so ..music these days is crap, fashion is crap, t.v. is a joke, movies are just remakes and redos..it seems everything today is boring and stale. Nothing progressing , almost like "well, there's nothing new to do so..it's all been done before so why bother"
@@robbieracer3294 whole heatedly agree
OMG!!! I thought I was the only one! I started with the Ninja Turtles wave 1 because I was a big fan of the toys in the early 90s. And I loved that they looked like improved versions of those same toys. Not like Neca doing the cartoon and film versions. I wanted MY toys. You know? So I started collecting. And the first four waves seemed to roll out pretty good. Then two things happened simultaneously. First was the turtle van. Then they started grabbing up licenses like Mcfarlane back in the late 90s. And they’ve been on a streak the last year of announcing line after line of different licenses up to like the next three years or something. But suddenly the turtles are way backed up. A bunch of other lines are backed up. I’m betting on my van in 2024 now at best. And I’m starting to see that dip in quality. And I think with the Thindercats line, they screwed up by trying to make them look like the show. That’s a Neca thing. I think they would’ve looked better if they kept them looking like the toys for that sweet nostalgia bump. But that’s just my opinion. But yes, I’m starting to agree with you. I’m not seeing the point in preorders from Super7. And I think I’d rather see the figure in hand before committing that kind of cheddar anymore
Logic and passion, the RetroBlasting way
That’s disappointing. On a different note hasbro strikes again, they are crowdfunding heroscape age of annihilation. Sucks.
You made a good rational choice. Seeing how the actual figures look nothing like the renders you've saved yourself from that mess. I don't see the figures matching the prices they ask for so I steered away from pulling the trigger on anything with them. That's just how I feel about Super 7 personally.
There are times I wish old toy lines would make a comeback. For example I always wanted someone to revive Dino Riders. Now, seeing how companies run things I am not sure I want that anymore.
I understand but I am still sticking with them, if they come out great, if not I am cool. Honestly as I scale back from modern collecting I am Happy to get a nice break, they can take all the time. Even if they don't finish I am fine. The industry is broken overall and that is the truth.
They should just do it the old way. Get the factory, the u.s. employees, the tooling, etc and just do it and send to the brick and mortar retailers. Does big bad have brick and mortar? If they don't, they could.
David Zosloft is cleaning WB. WB was suffering from bad management and bad writing. He taking WB in a direction that the fan will watch and pay for.
I tend to agree, let's hope you are right
I just can’t do Super7. Imo, they have permanently tarnished their reputation.
The one line that I would like to see brought back in it's original form or slightly updated is hands down M.A.S.K. No other line comes close on my list.
I have the (10) main vehicles from season 1 near complete.
Took me 2 years to find them all for reasonable prices.
Still really cool toys 👌
I found a pretty good quality Thunderhawk in a "free stuff" box at a garage sale this Saturday. Definitely my big find of the summer 😁
Hmmm interesting....I agree and disagree on some of your takes and no I'm not a Super 7 shill...But I will say the price tag they've been asking is a bit steep but then again I don't mind the Thundercats figures at all. For the price point, I feel they could have way more articulation. Hell Mattel Masterverse and G.I.Joe Classified give you more articulation for a cheaper price point with better detail IMO. Finally, I thought it was just me or maybe I missed a pre-order window being I received one set of Thundercats before the other. So these are great points and facts you're bringing forth along with good opinions.Keep up the excellent work Retroblasting I'll be looking forward to your next video.
P.S.
I did not cancel my Silverhawks Super 7 preorder as I want to review them and give my honest opinion.
I would have selected Inhumanoids for a modern update over Silverhawks, then maybe the Galaxy Rangers. Loved those shows.
I am having the same issue with the Neca D&D Warduke figure I ordered last year to arrive in March of this year which became April....now supposedly October. A kickstarter campaign would have been released already by now.
Preach on my brother! Been waiting on that one too!
I thank you for saying it and I'll see you @the next one.
Im sorta happy i never got into Silverhawks.. I have the core S7 Turtles and Thundercats and awaiting my Thundertank, i went from being excited to receiving a figure to being excited that im finally done buying figures from them. Ive had to repaint four figures.. legs and arms are floppy at random.. they are just MEH.. but I will admit they to look good on my shelf.
Super 7 also has too many Ultimate lines at once, when they can't deliver on them. TMNT, GI JOE, Thundercats, Transformers, Simpsons, Silverhawks, Power Rangers, Wrestling, Disney characters.. They have Ultimate lines for all of those.
I was never into silver hawks as a kid but I did preorder the pre transformation monstar cause I do remember him and he looks awesome. Every time someone asks Bryan Flynn about the paint he always says he has a sample of it but it’s painted on something that they can’t show yet cause it’s from a line that they didn’t announce yet. Wtf just show a little piece of it zoom the camera in do something
I hated that too ! "I have a sample of the paint but they keep putting it on something I can't show you !"😡
Yeah, it was acceptable the first time he said that in an interview but months later and hes still giving that excuse.....c'mon already
that Silverhawks collection in the background looks beautiful
Loved those toys when I was a kid. The little hawk that came with was the best too.
This video got me. Im about to cancel my Wave 1 pre-order. It’s November and I’m done waiting!! And I paid in CDN. “I’m Out” too!!!
@RetroBlasting, you made the right choice. Radio silence is VERY BAD.