Windows XP + browsing on Pentium PRO 200 MHz
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►HARDWARE USED IN THIS VIDEO:
INTEL R440FX ServerBoard socket 8
1GB EDO DRAM
Inno3D GeForce 2 MX200 PCI
HDD WD 8GB IDE
Windows XP PRO SP3
VGA driver Detonator 44.03
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►AUDIO:
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Broken - Patrick Patrikios
Forever - Anno Domini Beats
The Truth - Anno Domini Beats
Vibe Tracks - Take You
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Is really cool to taste the limits of hardware :3.
Yes, I really love 10fps as well
shut up
@@buhjedobry7289 you shut up
Thats my favourite.
Hmmm, delicious pentium
To browse the web a bit faster, I wonder if one of those old PCI SSL accelerator cards would help...
That cpu is the sexiest cpu i have ever seen
It's amazing how much Moore's Law has fallen out of relevence. With the Pentium Pro coming out in 1996 and Windows XP coming out in 2001, there is a five year difference between hardware and software. If one was to run Windows 10 on a Core i7-720QM, it would be faster than Windows XP running on this Pentium Pro machine.
I do run Win10 on i7-820QM + 8GB RAM (8440p, 11 years old machine).
I use a core 2 duo often and it still feels snappy.
Even now, I have Windows 11 running on a desktop with an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550. Windows 11 came out in late 2021 while the C2Q Q9550 came out in early 2008, so that would be over a 13 year difference, however Windows 11 still runs fairly well on old hardware.
Im on a phenom II x6 1055T + 16gb of ram, running win7 only because win10 feels sus and im waiting for all the tools to remove the bloatware and spyware to mature
Its fast enough, sure the numbers dont lie but for 80% of the stuff its fine, just make sure you are on an ssd and have a decent video card with hardware video decoding / encoding. (like an RX480)
@@sburton015 same. I have win11 running on a s771 xeon (in s775 mobo with mod). I forget the exact model.
but yeah win11 runs pretty snappy on core2quad hardware. even snappier than win10 I dare say...
I sit on CELERON 333MHz from 1998 to 2002 years... Using Windows XP from 2001
Wouldn't have expected Quake III to run on Pentium Pro @ 200MHz
Back to the times when 15fps was just a fluid framerate
at least playable.... nothing to see everything runs okay :D
@@Nordlicht05 But it was really "fluid"
Remember, the human eye can't tell the difference over 15. I was once told 😂
15 fps was neved considered fluid. The minimum amount of fps to be said it’s fluid is 30fps. Anything below is a slideshow.
If I remember correctly the Pentium Pro lacked MMX Technology. This is probably why your games weren't all that great. In the old days, I could use a Pentium MMX @ 233MHZ and a ATI Rage ll GPU and get over 30fps on most games in the mid/late 90s. The MMX was a big help. Something about the multimedia instructions. I don't remember if the Pentium had SSE Tech or not. SSE was big in Pentium lll.
MMX was not very usefull in games. Games like POD providing versions with and without MMX support, showed no improvement. More the opposite was the case.
@@derbiber842 This. MMX was really just a sales gimmick. Intel always trying to make things more complicated than they needed to be, just to make themselves seem superior. There were only a small handful of applications that saw any notable benefit from MMX, but in real world usage no one could tell one way or the other.
Really impressive for an old CPU, capable of running Quake 3 without MMX, which requires at least a 266 Pentium 2 processor for that game!
Actually, I think the true minimum is a Pentium 233 MMX.
In part thanks to the Geforce 2 video card.
400 MHz Pentium II with a Voodoo 2 SLI seems the better one for playing Q3A
Playing games
Every time I watch those gameplay ,I feel i am gonna throw up .
The SIMM RAM looks like it could have Infinnion chips on or Micron as it looks like crucial stuff, but I’m likely wrong!
XP on a 200MHz Pentium ! Lol
The minimum requirements for XP were 64mb ram & Pentium or equivalent at 233MHz I think
GeForce 2 mx200 must have been “bottoenecked” by the processor lool
Never thought I’d say that!!
It will run better if you set desktop background to a solid colour but I’m sure you know this !
Keeping the original 2002 windows XP look!!
Pentium Pro doesn't have MMX, that's why the poor performance on Quake3.
These are actually Micron SIMMs with Micron chips on them. (MT=Micron Technology) Mircon made them for Compaq exclusivly if I remember correctly.
XP runs fine even on an Pentium MMX 166 MHz but only without the Luna theme and enough RAM. 64 MB and a slow CPU like this will not do.
xD Yes never thought I'd would say that too. The GF2 MX 200 depends on a fast CPU to make any game playable. In this case I think even an Voodoo 2 wouldn't have been slower as the MX200..
@tntrafael No, that's not the case. Neither Quake 3 Arena nor the Detonator Driver required MMX to run. Just a slow GPU on an by its release 5 year older and thus slow CPU.
@@Troppa17 when I replied to this great video, I hadn’t watched it all and was trying to type stuff that I saw.
I know the Pentium pro is socket 8 and I simply didn’t think; hence me saying socket 7, obviously like the original Pentium was in and depending on the chipset, super socket 7 mobo’s could run k6-3’s & obviously the first two k6 series of AMD processors.
I remember a pc chips m5xxx with a sis520/530 chipset being able to run k6’s but a lot of SiS’ chipsets as found on pc chips m810lmr (SiS730), m741lmrt (sis620/30) and I owned both boards mentioned deliberately to help people on forum’s which had the same (slow, crappy) mobo’s which were noticeably very picky with memory, graphics cards (had onboard 8mg & up to 64mg onboard on the m810lmr skt a (462pin) boards. Both also required a much more powerful PSU as most people would realise & ide + dma mode problems & hacked BIOS’ for the m810lmr so they could even be overclocked lol!!
Most I got my 7.1 to was 140fsb when the limit was 133fsb Athlon’s from memory (Rev 5 onwards), but some rev 3’s could “unofficially” run 133fsb chips (Athlon tbird & XP’s) BUT only palomino based chips, not thoroughbred a/b/duron Applebreds due to chipset limitations !
Pentium 1 + geforce 2, I love compatibility
Watch this video from Asus P5B and Q6600(first revision 110W,stock without overclocking),6Gb DDR2 800Mhz(2x1 hunix,2x2 samsung),Radeon R9 380 2GB,Arch Linux 5.11 LTS:)
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Dude, your hardware collection is great! Thanks for sharing.
If you set lightmaps to vertex in Quake 3 you'll get double the performance.
As a kid I drooled over the pentium pros. I didn't have many girlfriends. :-/
Great video! I love Pentium Pro hardware. I wonder if a dual socket 8 setup would improve game performance?
soon on cpu galaxy 😉
@@CPUGalaxybrotherman don't advertise in other people's comments. it's douchy
great to see that Pro in action :)
I wonder how a 4-way or 2-Way Slot 2 900MHz 2M Pentium III would behave on the interwebs...these are rare. would test it myself but never got a chance to get hands on these
I had one of those and they worked good on the interweb had to install mp3 mpeg card to play videos and music
How it would behave now? I'd bet it would be still fairly slow due to most websites being encrypted. Back when it first came out, it probably didn't perform better than a single P3 1-1.2GHz due to most programs still being single threaded.
I got dual p3 ill try xp and maybe win 10 soon and post it . going to try win 10 on dual pent pro too
I was expecting more from the GF2 MX on Quake III, especially on lowest possible settings.
it's not the vga card, the problem is the CPU, 200mhz it's not enough and no MMX here!
@@tntrafael not true. GeForce 2 MX 200 is awful. Don't confuse it with MX classic or MX400...
@@Stermy57HW Even the original Geforce 256 can run this game fine, it's a OpenGL game, faster than D3D, Quake 3 requires a Pentium 2 class processor with 266 mhz at minimum clock speed, and 266mhz it's not fast enough to handle properly, a Pentium Pro is way, way slower than that, can't match any geforce 2 for sure, people used to buy machines around 1ghz cpu clock or more back on those days, i had an Athlon XP with a integrated Geforce 2 provide by Nforce chipset, slower than any MX, a weak 32 bits BUS, and no problem whatsoever to run games, Pentium Pro is too slow for modern 3d games on that era, it's a server CPU, just a larger cache than normal Pentium 1 class.
@@tntrafael I’ve owned a socket a board with nforce chipset and onboard gf2 graphics - Asus a7n266-vm and ram various Athlon xp 133fsb chips
I feel like the fps is era-accurate, but I'd have no idea since I was too young.
My SSD is literally faster than this computers ram
holy crap 5:00
this graphic card I broke the record (64 mb)
My first Computer was a C64 but 11 Minutes to calculate 1M digits of Pi seems unreal. My Ryzen 5 3600 did it in 8.388 seconds. This is what they call Moore's Law I guess.
I remember getting under 30s with an Athlon 64 3000+ @ 2.8GHz and fast DDR1 RAM. These days I have a R5 3600 too.
A beautiful piece of silicon
Run very well
I wonder how slow the install was?
2-3 hours I was away for 90% of time :-)
@@RETROHardware Oh, OK. Thanks.
hey pretty good looking cpu. This P2
Jestli se nepletu, pentium 2 233 je to minimalne systémové požadavky pro windows xp.
10fps jesus christ I can watch continuously
Videa jsou úžasné a zajímavé ale škoda že nejsou v cz titulky nebo cz dabing když jste Čech😟
Říkal sem si to samé, ale sleduji tolik retro kanálu (Adrian's digital basement, Noel's retro lab, a spoustu dalších a hodně jich je z neanglicky mluvících zemí) jsou to kanály ze španělska, Belgie, USA(samozřejmě tam je nativní angličtina 😄) a prostě ta angličtina je asi lepší na širší publikum než kdyby vysílal v češtině. Ale těžko říct. Další zajímavý kanál který je z Čech ale bez českého zvuku je diodegonewild (teda zajímavý pro mě, ale uvádím jen pro kontext)
POTATO PC ON EARTH :
OMG, the ram read write speed is slower than nowadays HDD
that hardware is old but gold!
i mean.... they used allot more gold back then to make these chips.....
It did performed pretty well for a cpu old like this.great content and keep up
This graphic card, Memory and processor run gta san andreas at 30 fps hahahaha
Congratulations! Very cool
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This is awesome!
I personally worked on such a machine, Pentium Pro 200 mhz, 512 kb cache, windows 95 and cheetah UW scsi 10,000 rpm 4 Gb and 32 Mb RAM, on Iwill MBO with Adaprec UW SCSI Controller on board ... it was very fast at the time ... Yes, and MATROX graphics card, I don't remember which model. But it was then a top-of-the-line DTP card, with high-quality color rendering.
Ah yes, the Pentium Pro with his huge L2 cache :)
After that they gave us SLOT cpu's
This makes me wonder how it would all work on some monster Ppro PC, like ALR 6X6 for instance (6x Pentium Pro) :>
Pentium Pro is the nicest x86 CPU ever :) I recently blew up my pre engineering unmarked Pentium pro in a bad motherboard. A sad day.
Those memory modules look totally weird with their T-shape form.
It was the only way to do it back then with the low density DRAM chips. Early to mid 2000's for the higher density DDR1 modules (particularly for servers), they started stacking the chips.
16:55 intel pentium porn xD
Xp için güncel İnternet tarayici olsa süper olurdu.Xp efsane ve hala kullniyorum.
Why no SSD? There are ide to sata adapters, i am using Axagon RSI-X1 and works without any issue - around 100MB/s sequential but random reads and writes are much faster than hdd and no hdd noise.
But you see, that negates the whole purpose of a retro machine. I’d be using HDD’s FOR the noise!
Of course noise is noise :-) Reality is that I tried 10-12 pieces of PCI controllers. Few SATA ones, almost nothing happened. Then UATA100, some were doing something but not boot or not visible when I started OS install. Then some very old IDE66-100 controllers and same results.
Of course I was thinking about SCSI or IDE/SATA adapter. But still I was getting problem with basic IDE HDD support on original controller, problem was with boot, simply no boot. And finally with this Seagate everything works in second.
Ty si slovak alebo cech?
Hey Buddy. Interesting video. Why don't you install the operating systems you do videos with in English? So we can read better. Would have loved to know the temperature range the processor was in during the tests. Cheers
Of course this is good point, in real this is pointless minimum. all benchs or EVEREST etc. is in english. I don’t have all kind of OSs in EN. Temperature with this old HW is not possible measure by SW, amybe only by temperature meter outside.
God, I remember the days of hitting the power button on my pc then going to make breakfast while I wait for it to load up. And it taking 5-6 hours to download one song from napster, kazaam, limewire or w/e lol. Those were the days though, the internet was pure anarchy the government (politicians) didn't even really know what the internet was. It was great. There was virtually no censorship of ideas etc. there were only really geeky type people on it. felt that way anyways.
Cool testing. Does you updated XP SP3? I'm working on a K6-iii 400 MHz non-SSE2, and only Opera 20 worked slowly to browse over HTTPS. I will try RetroZilla looking for faster page experience. 512 RAM and 8 VRAM makes IE8 work nice on unsafe oldschool sites.
Interesting video 1 GB of memory on the Pentium Pro !
Windows 95/98 would be better, XP is a very heavy OS for Pentium Pro.
There's a lot of things that's keeping me away from trying my Asus P5KPL that my grandpa sent me. Oh boy, I really wanted to try that old piece of tech.
Spoko sprzęt mój pierwszy co działał na 32 mb ramu Pentium 133 podkręcony do 150 MHz i na dyski 1GB !
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Athlon x2 will run as slow as 800mhz when set. That would be similar performance if you had a socket 939 variant with the ram set slow.
You can install latest firefox with kernel ex or there was a kernel mod which allows running late verisons
Can play GTA5???
Socket 7!! You likely can get away without a fan.
72pin extended data out Simms !!
Not seen kit like this for about 30 years!!
Pentium Pro uses Socket 8, also that board uses DIMM modules, not SIMM.
hdd drive quantum fireball two processor pentium pro graphics card rage mach32 ultra connected to two 3dfx voodoo1 sli audio sound card roland lapc1 memory fpm dram 512 megabytes card with first processor intel 8080 sbc to pci isa bus
Ahhhhh old hdd sounds. What a lovly noise
Looking at all of those ram sticks, they reminded me of an EDO and SDRAM tester i once saw somewhere. Would such device be useful for collector of your calibre or is running Memtest enough?
I have dell Inspiron 8600 and with non original charger it works only 200mhz (Pentium M735) I was wondering can it steel do something in nearly modern OS, thanks for video answer.
i think a geforce 2 gts would have been a way better option than geforce 2 mx
I wonder what a server with these parts would have cost when it was released. One with the cache added and 1GB ram. Probably a lot.
Is it okay installing Windows XP without ACPI? I read someone else had issue with some Pentium Pro server board and Windows XP due to lack of ACPI.
Greaaaaaat!
dude seriously.... put the gpu in the top pci slot...... they all share the 133mhz bus, top has priority everything else below it has to fight for bandwidth........ you should know this... :O
Play cyberpunk 2077 on it and you'll get negative 2000 fps on lowest settings
I have tried Pentium MMX 233 with Voodoo 1 it is same number of FPS compare this.
Well, it did better than I though it would on the internet. I’ve seen old netbooks and chromebooks struggle more than that!
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Bro!!!
Say goodbye to browsing these days, with TLS 1.0 :)
COOL! I've always wondered how your machines would deal with the web
cool !! hd is recycle OG xbox ;-)) ?
netscape 6.0 firefox 1.5 opera browser 4.0
Taky sbírám Pentium Pro, s duálním socketem 8 + voodoo 2 v dualu a matroxem m3d by to byla lepší paráda, potom jsou fps v quake okolo 60, dá se použít i Matrox 450 PCI nebo ati 9250 PCI, to už není ono. Hadam že ta instalace Windows XP je jen kvůli chybějícím ovladačům? Držím palce do dalších projektů
On hardware that old I'd browse using Lynx text web browser.
Why you install czech version of windows XP?
That czech Language owo are u from czech republic?
wait a minute are you Czech ?
yes
Windows XP best OS. Runs not that bad with this Hardware!
Try on Pentium OverDrive for 486 platform
💪 Still does some lift
dobrý video (good video)
no build without Q3A. wasn't disappointed
try this again with dual pentium pros more ram and better gpu!
What about an ASUS TECH EN9500GT
if you had 1gb ram back in the day you were considered rich
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How much did you paid for the games xDD
this is like n100 performance
Still faster than my school computer.
This is the highest fps count I've seen in my life
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need a test Pentium Pro 200 vs Pentium II 233
intel RC440FX
Pentium Pro with 1GB of ram lmao
you are from Czech republic ?
In russia use pentium from 2003 year on some factories
IDE bus! Long long time a go~
That's a real bottleneck for 1GB on Socket 7 I guess....
Can it run windows 7/ 8 /10?