Oh, I know why- because it appears Paul is just like our channel, and a very few others I know- would rather produce quality than a “look at me being sensational/Clickbait” sort.
Thank you! It’s unfortunate how the algorithm works. I try to make all my videos to a high quality - I hope it shows. That’s all I can control. But your words are very much appreciated 😃👍
Thank you and yes, that’s my plan for these videos. To try and offer something a bit different to other creators on here. So I hope you’ll enjoy more videos moving forward 👍👍
Boss vid. I love the mic. I got mine with the Osmo Pocket 3 creator combo. It's such a relief knowing the onboard recording is there. Oh, and bonus points for the Beto goal. UTFT
Thank you and defo with you on the relief the internal recording offers. Think we have a new standard! And there was no way I was leaving the Beto goal out haha! Terrible game - so the goal at least gave me a reason to be there! 😂👌
6:04 Since you asked :) Slight difference in presence when you are holding the mic 2 transmitter in front of you, more of an «up front in your face» sound, but the quality of the mic 2 is still really good :)
I can hear a difference between the two for sure. And there's certainly more body in the NTG 5. But both vhave ery different polar pattens - but they get the job done!
@@PaulGarrity Absolutely, the quality is really good on both, and they work well together :) some small tweakage on the dji mic 2, or just holding it a bit further from your mouth it would probably be almost indistinguishable :) Also, while I have you here, gotta compliment you on your delivery, reeeeeeally good, casual and relaxed, had to sub when I just happened onto your channel, some good stuff indeed :)
nice, clean, straight to the point ... Paul deserves sub, so I did 👍 BTW I bought mine DJI Mic2 just the day of release, nice piece of equipment, not just record but act as a remote control to DJI Action
It would work, but there’ll be trade offs. Personally, it’s not the sound I would look for in a podcast as these microphones are omnidirectional. As most podcasts use dynamic microphones to reject unwanted sound/signals etc Also, you can get drift if you record internally. So syncing up in post needs extra care for long form. If it had time code, which it doesn’t, that would solve that issue. Hope that helps you 👍
@PaulGarrity Excellent, thanks for being so thorough! By the way, as an Irishman I'm delighted to see Seamus Coleman take temporary charge of Everton! I follow the red side of the Mersey though! 😂
You’re welcome mate! Hope you figure it all out! Haha looks like Moyes is on his way back. Used to interview him every week in his first spell. Feels like 2002 all over again! And I have an excellent working relationship with Liverpool. So no animosity here haha! Very good people who work at the club! 👌
Thanks for the informative video Paul, I have the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 with the DJI MIC 2 so I can appreciate its versatility. I could hear a very small difference between the Rode and Mic 2 in your office test (slightly less fuller sound in the latter). It would be totally fine for RUclips but would you suggest using the "audio enhancements" in software like Final Cut to tweak the audio if I wanted a fuller sound? I've had success with this in eliminating background noise but obviously capturing good audio at the start is ideal.
Thank you for your kind words, appreciate it! Out of the box I think the two sounds are because of the different polar patterns...so the Rode will capture the audio more directly. Also its diaphragm is different. You certainly can tweak the sound in post, but it depends on how much time you have. I haven't changed the mic 2 audio or the lav audio yet. But you could try using a single band compressor to give the sound more body. I have done that with audio before. But I'm sure there are other people better placed than I to advise on such matters! 😀
Excellent review, thanks. I use the Mic2' in my motorcycle helmet for my fledgling motovlogging channel, as the fact they connect wirelessly to the DJI Osmo Action 4's means the whole set up is completely weatherproof. The only real problem I have had with them is that occasionally they fail to connect to the camera automatically, which isn't easy to see when riding. Stupidly, i hadn't turned on the internal recording on my last trip and ended up with no narration on several clips. I won't do that again! DJI are releasing the Mini Mic on 26th November, so it's be interesting to see how that compares, but I doubt they'll have all the features of the MIc2 as they are half the size.
Thank you! And I think you're right regarding the mini mics. If it's anything like the Rode versions, it will be stripped down. But I'd have thought a lower price might entice new people into the eco system. That's what these big companies want!
Thank you! The 32-Bit float is something that you'll really like. Even for safety, its a feature that's good to have. But I would realy like timecode in future versions 👍
Thank you! It will work if you use the USB-C adapter in the mic 2 kit. You’ve just got to remember it’s an omnidirectional microphone, so any reflections from the room will bleed through. Most of these types of mics work well through USB-C 👍
I'll be honest, I'm not sure what firmware I'm on. The firmware updates just merge into each other at this point! 😂 I do know it's not the latest version. I might update them this week and see if theres a difference in sound. Thank you for pointing that out 👌👌
@ you definitely should update to the latest, I watched several videos showing a significant change (improvement) in how they sound and I’ve noticed it myself with my Mic 2
Thank you! I normally start at around -12db then work from there. But I’d say that gives you enough headroom so you don’t clip. But of course other situations need adjustment 👍
I read that using Røde lav mics, instead of DJI ones, can create problems with the DJI mic, have you encountered that problems? Maybe the clippings of the rum scene are due to this? Thank you so much and go Everton, as a Roma supporter 😅
I’ve had no issues using the Rode mics. They’ve worked perfectly. The reason for the clipping was because I had the them set to -6db for a previous job. So after the run scene I adjusted it and it was fine 👍 so much going on at both clubs, I think we’re both after some stability!! 🤪 thank you! 🙌
Good video, Paul. Can you explain more about the internal recording? How is it retrieved for post production? Internal to the Osmo pocket is easy enough and straightforward, but I don’t understand how the mic 2’s separate recording is stored/retrieved.
Thank you! The microphones save the audio files as the Pocket 3 does with its video/audio. So plug in via the USB and the files are listed and you just drag and drop. No programmes needed. Really easy!
@@PaulGarrity Thanks, I’m assuming imported as an audio track would match the length of that particular video clip and sync at the same frame rate. Will let you know, headed off to Hungary tomorrow to try these!
@InnocentsAbroad in my testing, unfortunately not. They will need syncing in post. The audio files are around 23 minutes max in length and need stitching. Time code would solve the sync issue. But not device is perfect!
@@PaulGarrityI moved up from the OG Pocket to the Pocket 3 and was tempted to get the DJI Mic 2, but learned that my Wireless Go II would work. And it does, via USB-C. I might still get the transmitter, but the Rode has worked beautifully and saved me 100 bucks.
The microphones aren’t waterproof. I haven’t used them in the elements yet - but I would use them in the field with lavs if it was raining. But of course that’s personal preference.
It depends on the use case really. If you want to use it to broadcast to the audience, then I’d say not. But if you wanted to clip it to yourself to capture audio to use later, then it should be fine. Hope that helps 👍
Thanks Paul so was thinking of getting 2 receiver's one on me and the other on the audience to capture the laughter I am already using a rode boom mic appreciate the help and great video by the way 👍🏽
Great video on the Dji Mic 2 :) I bought it on day 1 … and was *really* disappointed. Made a video on my channel that same day highlighting the flaws and it *popped off* … The main problem was DJI saying it could connect via bluetooth to smartphones in their marketing, but hiding the fact the by audio codec they used was really low quality, so unusable. The second problem was that while connected to smartphone via BT the internal recording feature is disabled, so *no* backup recording to sync with the awful BT audio recorded in camera/on phone. Third issue was that the Dji Mic 2 doesn’t work with the iPhone native camera app, this was also not communicated clearly by DJI. Not a problem for «pro» users, but for those of us starting small using our phones a big deal. It does work great with the blackmagic camera app though, but I couldn’t use that at the time. Also, straight out of the box the audio quality on day one was *muffled* using the transmitter without lav. This caused a lot of people to hold it in their hands (yeah, that whole thing). The muffled audio has since been improved by a firmware update that took almost 6 months to materialize. Over time though, with the firmware update, experimenting with placement of the transmitter unit (haven’t been able to buy a lav yet), and some fiddling with EQ etc making a couple of more vids on it the Dji Mic 2 has improved a lot and is now a good alternative for good audio, but it does need a bit of experimentation to get great audio almost out of the box :) Another small gripe is that some settings *have* to be set via the receiver, so buying just the mic/transmitter to use with a phone without the receiver is sadly still not very smart, since low cut filter can’t be turned off, and 32 bit float backup can’t be turned on without the receiver (unless using action 4 or pocket 3) - so for those hoping for a *very* simple setup using just a mic and a phone it’s not a great option still :/ But since they have the single mic/receiver combo, which røde doesn’t have for their mics, it’s still a great solution, just not as good as it could have been :)
I think to summarise, and apologies for doing so, the big companies want us -the consumers - to fix these issues with money. So the more bits of kit you buy...you get past the short comings. They all do it. It's by design. We can always hope one day it will be different. But we'll probably be waiting a very long time!
@@PaulGarrity Good summarisation, no apologies needed :) And yeah, it's always about trying to cover enough of the features people want to buy a thing, and hold back on features for people to buy the next thing indeed - iteration rather than revolution, just like the features on the iphones, trickle rather than overwhelm unfortunately
It's criminal how this channel only has 899 subscribers. Very thorough and well produced, Paul!
Oh, I know why- because it appears Paul is just like our channel, and a very few others I know- would rather produce quality than a “look at me being sensational/Clickbait” sort.
Thank you! It’s unfortunate how the algorithm works. I try to make all my videos to a high quality - I hope it shows. That’s all I can control. But your words are very much appreciated 😃👍
Absolutely 👍
Agree,so I subbed.
What a wealth of knowledge. Thanks Paul, really appreciate the review!
That’s really kind of you Tom, thank you! Thanks for watching too! 🙌
this is a great review, love how many examples of real world use cases you have
Thank you and yes, that’s my plan for these videos. To try and offer something a bit different to other creators on here. So I hope you’ll enjoy more videos moving forward 👍👍
This is literally a perfect review of a product. Great job!
Thank you, appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed it 😃
Very well, edited, structured and paced, your talent outshines your reach Mr. Garrity. Liked 👍
Thank you very much! 😀
I have the DJI mic 2 and I freaking love it. Its versatility is top notch.
I'm a fan! Of course it would be good to try others too...theres lots of choice! But it does pass my test for sure!! 😀👍
Boss vid. I love the mic. I got mine with the Osmo Pocket 3 creator combo. It's such a relief knowing the onboard recording is there. Oh, and bonus points for the Beto goal. UTFT
Thank you and defo with you on the relief the internal recording offers. Think we have a new standard! And there was no way I was leaving the Beto goal out haha! Terrible game - so the goal at least gave me a reason to be there! 😂👌
6:04 Since you asked :) Slight difference in presence when you are holding the mic 2 transmitter in front of you, more of an «up front in your face» sound, but the quality of the mic 2 is still really good :)
I can hear a difference between the two for sure. And there's certainly more body in the NTG 5. But both vhave ery different polar pattens - but they get the job done!
@@PaulGarrity Absolutely, the quality is really good on both, and they work well together :) some small tweakage on the dji mic 2, or just holding it a bit further from your mouth it would probably be almost indistinguishable :) Also, while I have you here, gotta compliment you on your delivery, reeeeeeally good, casual and relaxed, had to sub when I just happened onto your channel, some good stuff indeed :)
No mics will ever be perfect, eh? 😂 and thank you. All those years in radio / TV broadcasting paying off haha. But very kind of you! 👍
This was a great review!
Thank you and thanks for watching 🙌
Well produced. Great clarity.
Thank you. Appreciate it 🙌
nice, clean, straight to the point ... Paul deserves sub, so I did 👍 BTW I bought mine DJI Mic2 just the day of release, nice piece of equipment, not just record but act as a remote control to DJI Action
Legend, thank you for the sub! 👍👍 I didn’t know it could be used for that - good to know, thank you! 🙌
Cheers Paul! I'm thinking about using this as a straight out of the box, clip on setup for a podcast. Would you recommend?
It would work, but there’ll be trade offs. Personally, it’s not the sound I would look for in a podcast as these microphones are omnidirectional. As most podcasts use dynamic microphones to reject unwanted sound/signals etc
Also, you can get drift if you record internally. So syncing up in post needs extra care for long form. If it had time code, which it doesn’t, that would solve that issue. Hope that helps you 👍
@PaulGarrity Excellent, thanks for being so thorough! By the way, as an Irishman I'm delighted to see Seamus Coleman take temporary charge of Everton!
I follow the red side of the Mersey though! 😂
You’re welcome mate! Hope you figure it all out!
Haha looks like Moyes is on his way back. Used to interview him every week in his first spell. Feels like 2002 all over again! And I have an excellent working relationship with Liverpool. So no animosity here haha! Very good people who work at the club! 👌
If there's one thing I learnt from this video, it's how good the Rode NTG5 mic sounds.
It is a mic I’ve been very pleased with!
Thanks for the informative video Paul, I have the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 with the DJI MIC 2 so I can appreciate its versatility. I could hear a very small difference between the Rode and Mic 2 in your office test (slightly less fuller sound in the latter). It would be totally fine for RUclips but would you suggest using the "audio enhancements" in software like Final Cut to tweak the audio if I wanted a fuller sound? I've had success with this in eliminating background noise but obviously capturing good audio at the start is ideal.
Thank you for your kind words, appreciate it! Out of the box I think the two sounds are because of the different polar patterns...so the Rode will capture the audio more directly. Also its diaphragm is different.
You certainly can tweak the sound in post, but it depends on how much time you have. I haven't changed the mic 2 audio or the lav audio yet. But you could try using a single band compressor to give the sound more body. I have done that with audio before. But I'm sure there are other people better placed than I to advise on such matters! 😀
Excellent review, thanks. I use the Mic2' in my motorcycle helmet for my fledgling motovlogging channel, as the fact they connect wirelessly to the DJI Osmo Action 4's means the whole set up is completely weatherproof. The only real problem I have had with them is that occasionally they fail to connect to the camera automatically, which isn't easy to see when riding. Stupidly, i hadn't turned on the internal recording on my last trip and ended up with no narration on several clips. I won't do that again!
DJI are releasing the Mini Mic on 26th November, so it's be interesting to see how that compares, but I doubt they'll have all the features of the MIc2 as they are half the size.
Thank you! And I think you're right regarding the mini mics. If it's anything like the Rode versions, it will be stripped down. But I'd have thought a lower price might entice new people into the eco system. That's what these big companies want!
Great video! I have the original DJI MIC, although looking to upgrade to the 2nd gen due to the 32-bit 😁
Thank you! The 32-Bit float is something that you'll really like. Even for safety, its a feature that's good to have. But I would realy like timecode in future versions 👍
love from india...
can i use it to record online class for zoom or other live session.....
Thank you! It will work if you use the USB-C adapter in the mic 2 kit. You’ve just got to remember it’s an omnidirectional microphone, so any reflections from the room will bleed through. Most of these types of mics work well through USB-C 👍
Just curious if you had the lates firmware updated for this test which apparent improved the audio quality/ fullness?
I'll be honest, I'm not sure what firmware I'm on. The firmware updates just merge into each other at this point! 😂 I do know it's not the latest version. I might update them this week and see if theres a difference in sound. Thank you for pointing that out 👌👌
@ you definitely should update to the latest, I watched several videos showing a significant change (improvement) in how they sound and I’ve noticed it myself with my Mic 2
Awesome video ! I might have missed it, but what gain settings do you use for the TX and RX?
Thank you! I normally start at around -12db then work from there. But I’d say that gives you enough headroom so you don’t clip. But of course other situations need adjustment 👍
I read that using Røde lav mics, instead of DJI ones, can create problems with the DJI mic, have you encountered that problems? Maybe the clippings of the rum scene are due to this? Thank you so much and go Everton, as a Roma supporter 😅
I’ve had no issues using the Rode mics. They’ve worked perfectly. The reason for the clipping was because I had the them set to -6db for a previous job. So after the run scene I adjusted it and it was fine 👍 so much going on at both clubs, I think we’re both after some stability!! 🤪 thank you! 🙌
Good video, Paul.
Can you explain more about the internal recording?
How is it retrieved for post production? Internal to the Osmo pocket is easy enough and straightforward, but I don’t understand how the mic 2’s separate recording is stored/retrieved.
Thank you! The microphones save the audio files as the Pocket 3 does with its video/audio. So plug in via the USB and the files are listed and you just drag and drop. No programmes needed. Really easy!
@@PaulGarrity Thanks, I’m assuming imported as an audio track would match the length of that particular video clip and sync at the same frame rate. Will let you know, headed off to Hungary tomorrow to try these!
@InnocentsAbroad in my testing, unfortunately not. They will need syncing in post. The audio files are around 23 minutes max in length and need stitching. Time code would solve the sync issue. But not device is perfect!
@@PaulGarrity Thanks. My takes wold not exceed about 75 secs, max.. so no worries there. Sounds like my hands just became clapper boards, lol
@@PaulGarrityI moved up from the OG Pocket to the Pocket 3 and was tempted to get the DJI Mic 2, but learned that my Wireless Go II would work. And it does, via USB-C. I might still get the transmitter, but the Rode has worked beautifully and saved me 100 bucks.
Can I use this outside in snow? (or rain?)
The microphones aren’t waterproof. I haven’t used them in the elements yet - but I would use them in the field with lavs if it was raining. But of course that’s personal preference.
would you recommend them for live performance ie standup comedy
It depends on the use case really. If you want to use it to broadcast to the audience, then I’d say not. But if you wanted to clip it to yourself to capture audio to use later, then it should be fine. Hope that helps 👍
Thanks Paul so was thinking of getting 2 receiver's one on me and the other on the audience to capture the laughter I am already using a rode boom mic appreciate the help and great video by the way 👍🏽
lectrosonics and wisycom entered the room
Hope they had a great time! 😝
Sadly i lost my mic which i clip on my shirt, and I did not even noticed of it drop on the ground.☹️
Oh no! Had so many bits of kit go missing like that in the past. The smaller the kit gets, the more vigilant I’ve had to become!
Great video on the Dji Mic 2 :) I bought it on day 1 … and was *really* disappointed. Made a video on my channel that same day highlighting the flaws and it *popped off* …
The main problem was DJI saying it could connect via bluetooth to smartphones in their marketing, but hiding the fact the by audio codec they used was really low quality, so unusable.
The second problem was that while connected to smartphone via BT the internal recording feature is disabled, so *no* backup recording to sync with the awful BT audio recorded in camera/on phone.
Third issue was that the Dji Mic 2 doesn’t work with the iPhone native camera app, this was also not communicated clearly by DJI. Not a problem for «pro» users, but for those of us starting small using our phones a big deal. It does work great with the blackmagic camera app though, but I couldn’t use that at the time.
Also, straight out of the box the audio quality on day one was *muffled* using the transmitter without lav. This caused a lot of people to hold it in their hands (yeah, that whole thing). The muffled audio has since been improved by a firmware update that took almost 6 months to materialize.
Over time though, with the firmware update, experimenting with placement of the transmitter unit (haven’t been able to buy a lav yet), and some fiddling with EQ etc making a couple of more vids on it the Dji Mic 2 has improved a lot and is now a good alternative for good audio, but it does need a bit of experimentation to get great audio almost out of the box :)
Another small gripe is that some settings *have* to be set via the receiver, so buying just the mic/transmitter to use with a phone without the receiver is sadly still not very smart, since low cut filter can’t be turned off, and 32 bit float backup can’t be turned on without the receiver (unless using action 4 or pocket 3) - so for those hoping for a *very* simple setup using just a mic and a phone it’s not a great option still :/ But since they have the single mic/receiver combo, which røde doesn’t have for their mics, it’s still a great solution, just not as good as it could have been :)
I think to summarise, and apologies for doing so, the big companies want us -the consumers - to fix these issues with money. So the more bits of kit you buy...you get past the short comings. They all do it. It's by design. We can always hope one day it will be different. But we'll probably be waiting a very long time!
@@PaulGarrity Good summarisation, no apologies needed :) And yeah, it's always about trying to cover enough of the features people want to buy a thing, and hold back on features for people to buy the next thing indeed - iteration rather than revolution, just like the features on the iphones, trickle rather than overwhelm unfortunately
I can’t tell
I guess that shows how good the tiny mic is? 👍
Your shotgun is much better
I do too, particularly in that office situation. But considering all the tech inside the tiny DJI, it is pretty good.
Damn! Thank you for this vid! Now i am learning from a professional in the field! 🥹
You’re very kind. I hope you were able to take something from this video. Thank you for watching!! 😃