Topics: 0:00 INTRO 0:47 PowerA Standard - Why PowerA is Low Cost 3:20 PowerA Spectra - What I use 5:20 PowerA Fusion 2 8:27 Xbox Standard 10:07 Razer Wolverine Ultimate 13:59 Elite 2 18:49 Scuf Instinct Pro 22:19 Victrix Gambit 24:28 8BITDO 25:28 Turtle Beach Recon 28:34 Conclusion & Recommendation Controller Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EOtmDeW3cL3Apy78lUc6b8GtCmEsAHmkZkn-XDvlgRo/edit?usp=sharing Also don't forget to pick up a BLITZ5 HAT ;) blitz5.creator-spring.com/listing/blitz5?product=763
Good review. I would've never purchased an elite 2 but it came with my day 1 bundle for my series X. It's been great and now, with over 2 years of use it's starting to get stick drift. That's after hundreds of hours in COD, warzone, Halo, splitgate and other 1st person shooters. Definitely getting another one but keeping my fingers crossed that I'm lucky again.
So I’ve owned the Power A fusion, Razor Wolverine Ultimate and Elite Series 2. Power A - Used for around 4 month then broke - For the price it’s ok, but for a semi serious gamer they are cheap and feel cheap. The button inputs feel squishy, analogues are awful and they have so many issues with game audio and chat audio. For a starter controller they are ok but I wouldn’t buy another. Razor Wolverine Ultimate - Used for 13 months - Amazing controller with great features, the 6 extra buttons are great for games like PUBG and Warzone. The analogues do feel a bit loose but not that bad. If you’ve got small hands you’ll probably struggle to use all 6 buttons. KontrolFreeks don’t fit on this controller. Biggest issue is the back buttons are only secured by 2 plastic clips and mine snapped. Overall decent but probably not for everyone. Elite Series 2 - Used for 12 months, still using - I haven’t had any reliability issues with mine. The best overall controller for features, comfort, feel. The App is great if you play multiple games like me. The Personally I’d recommend this controller but it’s true that loads of people have had issues. If you buy the warranty, they’ll replace the controller if it breaks for 2 years.
at this point im in way too deep on how many basic Power A controllers ive gone through playing pubg and rocket league. it's an amount so high that when my friend asked how many i lied big time and it was still shocking to him
@@BLiTz5 my local GameStop stopped stocking cheap Xbox controllers because people like me were abusing the warranty policy lol whoops. I have never seen the Spectra before gonna try it out god bless ya
@@obiiieeee i personally run the fusion pro 2 since it came out and have had the original fusion pro and never had issues with either, I also hook them up to the pc every now and again to run their diagnosis and they’re still good. Handed down the original fusion pro and the person using it still has no issues outside of some dead zone sometimes while firing on RT
@@BLiTz5 you may already know but i just discovered you can recalibrate the analog sticks/whole controller without plugging into anything or using any program: unplug controller. hold down start select and middle xbox button while plugging back in. controller light will blink. rotate left stick clockwise 3 times. Then the right stick. Then press both triggers 3 times. Then press y and down dpad together to have light stop blinking which means calibration is done
Wow, I’ve never heard of that controller either! Saw some quality issues in the reviews on Amazon but seems really interesting! Lot of positive reviews as well.
@@BLiTz5 Hall Effect isn't a brand, it's a technology. Some controllers ship with hall effect parts, while others you can buy replacement parts. Don't throw out your old controllers, just mod them with hall effect sensors. The big companies deliberately don't use hall effect so the joysticks wear out and you have to replace the controller. Well, screw them and mod the joystick instead, so you never have to buy a new controller. The technology is getting popular enough that big companies will have to start selling at least premium products with hall effect, or people will question it. I started hearing about the tech with steam deck modding, mostly because it's simple and allowed by valve, then I saw people mod other controllers with it, and finally you can just buy controllers with hall effect already installed. It makes no sense to keep buying elite controllers just because of drift. Break the cycle, switch to hall effect. PS. If this subject interests you, do a video on it. It needs to get more publicity so it becomes mainstream, and controller issues go away. The subject is riding the edge of becoming exponentially popular, and I guarantee videos on it will get views. It's basically super powered clickbait that's legit. Probably get bonus numbers depending on how in depth it is too.
Been through 4 elite series 2 controllers, after this video, I ordered the Spectra power a with the LED lights. It has already lasted longer than the Elite controllers, appreciate you for this video, Just got my Elites series 2 back from Xbox and I’m not even interested in going back to it.
Basically what I went though. The spectra has its issues but my recent one last for a while and then powera just sent me a new one because it was still under warranty! Make sure you save your purchase receipt. Glad it helped - GGs!
PowerA Fusion 2 owner here. For starters, it is a very good controller and worth the price, however there are some drawbacks. I've had mine since about January 3rd 2022, we're now in 11th September 2023, during that time period I've had some issues. Firstly one of the triggers for some reason dislocated itself, it so instead of pressing down it was veering to the side a bit. So Ihad to find a shop that could fix the controller cus as far as I'm aware there are no PowerA places here in Brazil that you can send your controller to get fixed. So bare that in mind, if you're outside of US or Europe, I don't think you'll be able to get your controller fixed quickly. Secondly, the audio in the controller has basically disappeared now, the audio input port is bent to the left so the audio is very low and just not right. Granted I have dropped the controller a few times, from standard sitting position height so nothing that couldn't happen with any of us, but I'd say like 10 times max, didn't drop it that much. One more thing, if you're someone who plays racing games or maybe sims like asseto corsa you might not like this controller, I personally hated that, the triggers are way too loose, they're very soft to press conpared to the stantard Xbox controller, that means it's very difficult to have a fine control over the throttle and brake of the car or motorcycle. So bare that im mind, if that doesn't bother you, go for it
8bitdo makes a lot of controllers aimed at retro gaming, they work with Retroarch, Switch, PC and Xbox, they're decent controllers and if you play Retrogames like the NES/SNES on the Switch their controllers are a good option for that. You have some really good options at all price points in your list. I however don't think I could bring myself to spend $220+ on a Scuf controller no matter how good they are, that's just a bit too much money for me to spend, now if the price dropped to say that of the MS Elite 2 controller, then I might be interested.
If you are going through controllers like crazy, the power A is a decent option. You can practically buy 3 for the price of a standard Xbox controller.
Great video mate, I've only ever used a standard xbox controller just different skins on them and for me it works fine and I can still kick peoples ass on pubg so I don't see me ever spending crazy amounts on a controller.
As a Turtle Beach Recon controller user for about 6-7 months, I can say that the controller itself is a pretty good controller for its price range. It’s won’t give you a competitive edge like the others will, not by a mile, however it certainly gives a lot of bonus features that other controllers may not have, especially over the standard Series X controller. The controller itself feels light to pick up which is a little telling from the price range, but given that it doesn’t have a battery pack in and it’s purely a wired controller that makes sense. For me personally, I prefer a little weight to my controllers but if you like having a lightweight controller then this one will feel perfect for you. The back buttons for me less responsive than I’d like them to be, you almost have to press them in to get the button press, but the positioning of them is very good and I’ve rarely ever misclicked them. However you do get 4 button profiles with this controller which is a great benefit if you play multiple games but also like using the back buttons The audio settings on the controller is selling point of this controller. As a mainstream headset company it comes as no surprise that they will give the most options for audio than any other controller. The audio settings are great, you can isolate audio between gameplay and party so you can either have louder gameplay audio and quieter party audio or vice versa or just have all of one. There’s even a button that helps to boost overall audio that much more. I will say that the feel of the controller is good, not the best however it gets the job done. The grip is meant to be some sort of cooling grip that keeps your hands cool however my hands still feel hot after playing for a little while, if not hotter than they were on my previous controller. The Omni D-Pad for me personally, I’m not a fan of because whenever I press fully left, right, up or down, it can sometimes naturally go to the corners which can offput gameplay. However this could be something I’m doing, but I personally like the standard D-Pad with 4 directions, or maybe a Omni D-Pad that’s better made. Overall, I would give the Turtle Beach Recon controller a 7/10, the audio settings really do sell this controller and they all work great, they’ve helped me a lot, however the back buttons could be a little more responsive and the D-Pad could be changed, but for the price of the controller it is a great controller and so much better than getting a standard one.
Great video I had the OG Wolferine for 3 1/2 years until A jammed shut picked up a Elite 2 last November and so far no issues but I know I’m a rare lucky 1
Yes my new series X has left thumbstick drift now and it was new in November 2022. So it broke in 5 months. Thanks for the info. I might switch to Power A brand to test it out.
Just got one at Target and the A button is sticking and squeaky right out of the box. Be wary of people recommending these, because I had seen others with this issue. Lame, returning it tomorrow.
I feel your pain with the elite 2. 4 tries,4 faulty. I'm using power A spectra now but another good/great option is the gamesir g7, 2 back buttons, instant triggers that can be turned on or off and adjustable trigger profile. Clicky abxy buttons. The only bad point for me is I have big hands and the palm grips are a little smaller than standard xbox
Tried PowerA Fusion controller and immediately returned it. Felt so cheap. It's made out of cheap, shiny plastics. Got the Turtle Beach Recon controllers and everything about it felt much better.
Idk if I just lucked out in quality control on my series elite 2 but I’ve had mine for 2 years. I play COD almost daily so it goes through its paces, hasn’t even started with the stick drift.
Yeah I’ve had my series 2 for a year now and works great I’m getting a little stuck drift so looking for something else but it works just fine it’s more or less my Excuse to my wife to buy a scuf or something else
Thank you. There’s also a few good recommendations in the comments - but as I said a few times in the video, be aware of the controllers that have a much different shape. Have fun gaming!
I'm on my second power a. The first one lasted 3 months. The a button and the d pad broke. We'll see if the second one lasts longer but I doubt it. Glad I bought the warranty.
Heres my experience with the Elite Controller Series 1. The micro usb eventually got so worn, it no longer worked. Trigger locks can easily break. Drift Stick was never an issue for me, i played alot of Forza and Halo when i was using it. The rubber grips started to wear and tear away. Then i noticed the paddles on the back noticeably the lower right, which was my reload or shift up, started to have play in the hinge or the little knob that pushes the tiny green button started to wear to the point i was pressing it multiple times for it to recognise. The Afterglow prismatic controller which i had before the elite series 1 controller came out, i went through 1 a year. Not too sure about the gen 2 though
I got my Xbox Elite 2 controller 2 years ago and so far it’s been lasting longer than I imagined because I usually abuses my controller with nothing straight up fighting games and shooting games. And I do use paddles here and there but it happens rarely though. But 2 days ago I ordered the white core elite 2 controller so I can be ready to switch when my og black elite 2 controller gives up on me lol but. Overall all these controller are very interesting and very cool and creative 👍💪
Just wanted to put this out here as someone who’s used a wide variety of controllers. Use precision rings on the razor. Turn sensitivity up with firm firm rings and you’ll have quicker, linear and smoother aiming in games like PUBG that don’t have aim assist. Precision rings work with all controllers however specifically helps that razor controller.
the triggers on elite series 2 go always 100% its just that the distance u have to press it down to is diffrent. 17:22 . thats misinformation. Aso the warranty is 1 year not 6 months. pls inform yourself better if ur doing reviews
8bit do ultimate wired controller is the best and most affordable I've owned all these controllers and by far 8bit do is superior overall especially the d pad.
I bought a turtle beach recon and notice that hardly mentions how complicated the on the fly settings are for multiple profiles and the app only does firmware so you have to memorize tap hold multiple tap combos to use the back buttons at all or any of the features
My top is 1st Wolverine because of the extra buttons and i can use it on pc and the focus option that makes your joystick get slower 2nd place is the standard xbox controller cuz i can use a strike pack on it to use it on other consoles 3rd place The elite 2 but the but with a good insurance
I've had a few stock xbox controllers crap out quickly, but overall I would give the stock controller a slight edge over the lower cost PowerAs for durability. The fusion PowerA lasted me for years.
I tried the PowerA controllers because a) they were cheap and b) they have backbuttons. 2 of them broke after 3 to 4 months and the third one was broken out of the box (stickdrift). The store where I bought it did give me a new one every time though so the service was good at least I suppose. Bought a 8bitdo ultimate after that and have been happy ever since.
Nice video, I've been using the Elite 2, on my 2nd controller. It did last nearly a year but some of that time was using with buttons not working well. Luckily 2nd time I got a warranty from Best Buy. I was interested about the Power A though since I saw them but just passed on them due to the price. After your review I might look into one if my current controller goes out, amazing pricing on them for what you get!
I hate razer, but the wolverine v1 ultimate is the way for business in every game and easy to toggle 6 triggers on/off easily. Cost me 120 and yes being the old school 360 wired safety net if you yank accidentally, all is good. I love it
I'm still trying to get used to changing settings manually on it and losing the back buttons and having to reset everything if the cable detaches or i plug into a different device
Helllo man whats up for PC gaming what would u recommend to me? i would like to get POwer A but iv read that it breaks easily, like all xbox controller broke or has stick drif problem... what can u recommend me
still not ergonomic and bad for your joints as almost every controller out there. controller needs to get much wider like the steamdeack - even wider to be ergonomic and fun to use. also the d-pad needs to join the angle of your thumb - so it needs to be turnd about 20-30% clockwise to fit your thumb. also - why are the ways of the bumper sooo long and also wrongly positioned? they need to be turned down so your index-finger dont ne be turned up and cramp/hurt after some time.
What's the most durable? I can't get more than a few months out of the standard Xbox brand wireless. Got even less out of my turtle beach before serious stick drift. Tired of buying these things.
I've had 3 different PowerA spectra wired controllers have audio issues. Something weird will happen- the controller will stutter, the RGB gets reset to the default, and then all of the sudden the audio is hyper bass-boosted and distorted, so I cannot use it for game audio or chat. I've swapped cables, used it on different xboxes, and every time it's the internal mechanism in the controller itself that seems to just die. Anyone else had this issue, or know ways to fix it? It's happened three times. I use a SteelSeries Arctis headset. Headset is working fine and has been tested on my phone and laptop and isn't the issue.
I had this happen to me. I found that after the controller flickered and the lights reset and audio got all messed up, that it had actually reset all of the sliders in the Xbox party audio settings. Try starting an Xbox party, scrolling down to options, click audio settings and then pull the sliders back to sensible positions.
Ur spot on about the Elite Series 2… it’s hands down the most gucci, feature packed controller on the market, but the quality control is abysmal!!! I’m on my 3rd or 4th Series 2 (I lost count) and I think I went through 2 of the OGs. The price of one of these is actually around $230, because a protection plan is a must!!! Ive had shoulder buttons break, buttons stick, and out of the box stick drift. For this price, I can’t accept any of those issues, so I took the first three back to Best Buy. No wonder they may have stopped offering protection!
I have the 8BitDo, which I like to use for FPS. Only problem is the paddles cancel each other out when pressed simultaneously. For example I have crouch on left paddle and throwing grenades on right paddle, which do not work at the same time. Idk if this was a problem when I first used it at the time of unboxing.
@@hukkerz I think it's because I assigned each paddle for left dpad and right dpad, so it's not meant to be pressed at the same time unfortunately. I took notice with the new controllers I currently use.
I hate the Elite 2 controller. When it works, it's perfect. Thumbsticks and buttons feel great. I like the paddles, and the grip. But I've RMA'd 3 of them for different reasons. The first one lasted 6 months, and then all of the subsequent ones broke within a month of use. Never again.
I found the 8bitdo xbox controller you showed off for like 20 bucks and I have to say it feels really nice I wouldn’t use it for a shooter though because the triggers feel a bit weird
Every official Xbox controller I’ve used the “A” button is not really that responsive. I have a Turtle Beach Recon controller that I use on my PC that has given me no problems; I might start using that.
Hi man, i tryed the fusion pro but i figure out tge size is not the same as other controller it feels really big and couldn't play with it, is the spectra the same size?
9:24 original Microsoft controllers are junk, I've returned mine 3 times under warranty so far. Came here to look for an alternative third party controller
funny My Turtle Beach Recon Controller actually broke before the wire did. Sadly, started getting stick Drift Then the analogous stop centering at all I wouldn't Recommend one.
The exact same thing happened to my React R they use the same sticks. Got about 4 months of good use then the controller started drifting bad, then over the next few months the stick got worse and worse and wouldn’t re center at all. Target took it back after 9 months or so I was kinda shocked and gave my money back. I instantly ordered a gamesir G7 he. I have had a G7 Se for about a year and with heavy use it is as good and tight as it was new such a great controller. I will only be buying haul effect sticks from here on out
Im just looking for a semi budget controller that has the better joysticks. Im tired of dumping money into 1st party controllers just to drift 5 months after I purchase them
You missed a great one. Thrustmaster eswap pro controller is a very good one. Tension on the thumb sticks are among the best I’ve ever used. Mechanical face buttons as well. Solid controller
chill dont be putting everyon on that cheat code controller, i own two of th s ones and i own the first one, best controller i ever own besides the gambit
The first controller that's reasonablely priced I think they sell it cheap on purpose I've gone through 8 of them they just break, I'm using the wolverine V2 at the moment it's a little bit more expensive but I've had no problems with it (yet) lol
I didn't even get to use the controller that came with my Xbox it was already done for lol the buttons would stick or just hide press it and nothing, thanks Xbox 😤
Elite 2 core still crap quality but really great features but damn I got the extra warranty and I just get a new one like every 6 months because something stops working.
Grazie gran bel lavoro...GG ,dopo 20 anni di PlayStation sono passato a Xbox serie x gli ultimi 2 anni ho utilizzato Razer raju tournament ora utilizzo il nuovo controller x box ma mancano i rear Button grazie al tuo video valuterò il nuovo aquisto..grazie ancora
I wish Microsoft would go back to what ever they used to make the xbox one controllers. I had two for my pc and gamed daily. After almost 10 years they finally started getting stick drift. I guess I was lucky because I have never read or heard from anyone, of them lasting that long. But mine have seriously been tanks.
I would rather buy a controller that’s more expensive and has less features because it usually lasts longer. Some controllers have so many features at such at a lower price but then the build quality is terrible. I usually just get one really good controller and it lasts me for years
Why you forgot the nacon revolution X, its a great gamepad, good rear button, very good software, face button very accurate an nice feeling, and the great qualité is the stick of te nacon revolution X, a master piece. Bumper nice , but maybe life time...( i have since it 5 month, i wait again for that)
I can speak for the Razer Wolverine Ultimate, it definitely is a different shape/feel vs the Xbox og controller, but something you can get used to. The overall and long term quality is very good especially vs the Xbox Elite controller(my elite didn't last a year), the Razer didn't and still doesn't have any stick drift(at least mine) after a couple of years of moderate to heavy usage, the kind of quality you expect for something in this price range. I haven't tried many aftermarket controllers, but this one is definitely my favorite so far. Two thumbs up🎮👍👍.
When I had my xbo1 ..I had 2 elite controllers.. they had worthless quality but they was awesome as long as they worked 😂 Now I have a xbox x mini and a G2 controller.. I'm very satisfied with it.. Imo, controllers are like buying cars ^^ it's all about personal taste and money ..
Topics:
0:00 INTRO
0:47 PowerA Standard - Why PowerA is Low Cost
3:20 PowerA Spectra - What I use
5:20 PowerA Fusion 2
8:27 Xbox Standard
10:07 Razer Wolverine Ultimate
13:59 Elite 2
18:49 Scuf Instinct Pro
22:19 Victrix Gambit
24:28 8BITDO
25:28 Turtle Beach Recon
28:34 Conclusion & Recommendation
Controller Spreadsheet:
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the fusion pro 2 is on sale on amazon in the U.S. for $63 Dollars
The thing i hate about elite 2, the A button doesnt sometimes register😢
Good review. I would've never purchased an elite 2 but it came with my day 1 bundle for my series X. It's been great and now, with over 2 years of use it's starting to get stick drift. That's after hundreds of hours in COD, warzone, Halo, splitgate and other 1st person shooters. Definitely getting another one but keeping my fingers crossed that I'm lucky again.
They can get drift within 1st month you must just be lucky
Just buy the Elite Core, if you still have all the pieces
Just learn to fix it, the setup to you need to fix it would cost less than another controller, and you pick up a new skill.
@@imgone1078where do I learn that?
@imgone1078 mind shedding some light on repair tool list?
So I’ve owned the Power A fusion, Razor Wolverine Ultimate and Elite Series 2.
Power A - Used for around 4 month then broke - For the price it’s ok, but for a semi serious gamer they are cheap and feel cheap. The button inputs feel squishy, analogues are awful and they have so many issues with game audio and chat audio. For a starter controller they are ok but I wouldn’t buy another.
Razor Wolverine Ultimate - Used for 13 months - Amazing controller with great features, the 6 extra buttons are great for games like PUBG and Warzone. The analogues do feel a bit loose but not that bad. If you’ve got small hands you’ll probably struggle to use all 6 buttons. KontrolFreeks don’t fit on this controller. Biggest issue is the back buttons are only secured by 2 plastic clips and mine snapped. Overall decent but probably not for everyone.
Elite Series 2 - Used for 12 months, still using - I haven’t had any reliability issues with mine. The best overall controller for features, comfort, feel. The App is great if you play multiple games like me. The Personally I’d recommend this controller but it’s true that loads of people have had issues. If you buy the warranty, they’ll replace the controller if it breaks for 2 years.
at this point im in way too deep on how many basic Power A controllers ive gone through playing pubg and rocket league. it's an amount so high that when my friend asked how many i lied big time and it was still shocking to him
That standard one does not seem very reliable but there should be a warranty on those.
@@BLiTz5 my local GameStop stopped stocking cheap Xbox controllers because people like me were abusing the warranty policy lol whoops. I have never seen the Spectra before gonna try it out god bless ya
@@obiiieeee i personally run the fusion pro 2 since it came out and have had the original fusion pro and never had issues with either, I also hook them up to the pc every now and again to run their diagnosis and they’re still good. Handed down the original fusion pro and the person using it still has no issues outside of some dead zone sometimes while firing on RT
Buy a hall effect based controller. It uses magnets that don't wear out and cause drift.
@@BLiTz5 you may already know but i just discovered you can recalibrate the analog sticks/whole controller without plugging into anything or using any program:
unplug controller. hold down start select and middle xbox button while plugging back in. controller light will blink. rotate left stick clockwise 3 times. Then the right stick. Then press both triggers 3 times. Then press y and down dpad together to have light stop blinking which means calibration is done
If you go through controllers, switch to a hall effect controller that uses magnets for the joystick. Doesn't wear out.
Wow, I’ve never heard of that controller either! Saw some quality issues in the reviews on Amazon but seems really interesting! Lot of positive reviews as well.
@@BLiTz5 Hall Effect isn't a brand, it's a technology. Some controllers ship with hall effect parts, while others you can buy replacement parts. Don't throw out your old controllers, just mod them with hall effect sensors. The big companies deliberately don't use hall effect so the joysticks wear out and you have to replace the controller. Well, screw them and mod the joystick instead, so you never have to buy a new controller. The technology is getting popular enough that big companies will have to start selling at least premium products with hall effect, or people will question it. I started hearing about the tech with steam deck modding, mostly because it's simple and allowed by valve, then I saw people mod other controllers with it, and finally you can just buy controllers with hall effect already installed. It makes no sense to keep buying elite controllers just because of drift. Break the cycle, switch to hall effect.
PS. If this subject interests you, do a video on it. It needs to get more publicity so it becomes mainstream, and controller issues go away. The subject is riding the edge of becoming exponentially popular, and I guarantee videos on it will get views. It's basically super powered clickbait that's legit. Probably get bonus numbers depending on how in depth it is too.
VICTRIX Pro BFG with Hall Effect sticks module is the BEST one.
Is much better than any of the ones in the video.
Great job, Blitz. Maybe, in the future, you could do a follow up video on the bonus controllers you mentioned.
Great review. I use Elite 2 Core 3rd one in a year 😢
Been through 4 elite series 2 controllers, after this video, I ordered the Spectra power a with the LED lights. It has already lasted longer than the Elite controllers, appreciate you for this video,
Just got my Elites series 2 back from Xbox and I’m not even interested in going back to it.
Basically what I went though. The spectra has its issues but my recent one last for a while and then powera just sent me a new one because it was still under warranty! Make sure you save your purchase receipt. Glad it helped - GGs!
I agree. My elite bumper buttons keep failing. I'm done with them.
Just got the Victrix Gambit, run zero deadzones and can make micro adjustments just fine. Prob depends on the game you’re playing tho
This is probably the best controller for Xbox in my opinion. I also have a Hex which is really good but cost a lot more.
PowerA Fusion 2 owner here. For starters, it is a very good controller and worth the price, however there are some drawbacks. I've had mine since about January 3rd 2022, we're now in 11th September 2023, during that time period I've had some issues. Firstly one of the triggers for some reason dislocated itself, it so instead of pressing down it was veering to the side a bit. So Ihad to find a shop that could fix the controller cus as far as I'm aware there are no PowerA places here in Brazil that you can send your controller to get fixed. So bare that in mind, if you're outside of US or Europe, I don't think you'll be able to get your controller fixed quickly.
Secondly, the audio in the controller has basically disappeared now, the audio input port is bent to the left so the audio is very low and just not right. Granted I have dropped the controller a few times, from standard sitting position height so nothing that couldn't happen with any of us, but I'd say like 10 times max, didn't drop it that much.
One more thing, if you're someone who plays racing games or maybe sims like asseto corsa you might not like this controller, I personally hated that, the triggers are way too loose, they're very soft to press conpared to the stantard Xbox controller, that means it's very difficult to have a fine control over the throttle and brake of the car or motorcycle. So bare that im mind, if that doesn't bother you, go for it
8bitdo makes a lot of controllers aimed at retro gaming, they work with Retroarch, Switch, PC and Xbox, they're decent controllers and if you play Retrogames like the NES/SNES on the Switch their controllers are a good option for that. You have some really good options at all price points in your list. I however don't think I could bring myself to spend $220+ on a Scuf controller no matter how good they are, that's just a bit too much money for me to spend, now if the price dropped to say that of the MS Elite 2 controller, then I might be interested.
If you are going through controllers like crazy, the power A is a decent option. You can practically buy 3 for the price of a standard Xbox controller.
USD stands for US Dollars, you don’t have to say both. Lol but this is by far the BEST review on controllers I’ve seen in my searches! Thank you!
Great video mate, I've only ever used a standard xbox controller just different skins on them and for me it works fine and I can still kick peoples ass on pubg so I don't see me ever spending crazy amounts on a controller.
45 is less than a base controller
As a Turtle Beach Recon controller user for about 6-7 months, I can say that the controller itself is a pretty good controller for its price range.
It’s won’t give you a competitive edge like the others will, not by a mile, however it certainly gives a lot of bonus features that other controllers may not have, especially over the standard Series X controller.
The controller itself feels light to pick up which is a little telling from the price range, but given that it doesn’t have a battery pack in and it’s purely a wired controller that makes sense. For me personally, I prefer a little weight to my controllers but if you like having a lightweight controller then this one will feel perfect for you.
The back buttons for me less responsive than I’d like them to be, you almost have to press them in to get the button press, but the positioning of them is very good and I’ve rarely ever misclicked them. However you do get 4 button profiles with this controller which is a great benefit if you play multiple games but also like using the back buttons
The audio settings on the controller is selling point of this controller. As a mainstream headset company it comes as no surprise that they will give the most options for audio than any other controller. The audio settings are great, you can isolate audio between gameplay and party so you can either have louder gameplay audio and quieter party audio or vice versa or just have all of one. There’s even a button that helps to boost overall audio that much more.
I will say that the feel of the controller is good, not the best however it gets the job done. The grip is meant to be some sort of cooling grip that keeps your hands cool however my hands still feel hot after playing for a little while, if not hotter than they were on my previous controller.
The Omni D-Pad for me personally, I’m not a fan of because whenever I press fully left, right, up or down, it can sometimes naturally go to the corners which can offput gameplay. However this could be something I’m doing, but I personally like the standard D-Pad with 4 directions, or maybe a Omni D-Pad that’s better made.
Overall, I would give the Turtle Beach Recon controller a 7/10, the audio settings really do sell this controller and they all work great, they’ve helped me a lot, however the back buttons could be a little more responsive and the D-Pad could be changed, but for the price of the controller it is a great controller and so much better than getting a standard one.
Great video I had the OG Wolferine for 3 1/2 years until A jammed shut picked up a Elite 2 last November and so far no issues but I know I’m a rare lucky 1
Yes my new series X has left thumbstick drift now and it was new in November 2022. So it broke in 5 months. Thanks for the info. I might switch to Power A brand to test it out.
Almost exact same story and time frame for me also
If you don't mind losing voice chat (or have a wireless mic), get a brooks xb 2 adapter and a gulikit king Kong pro 2. No stick drift forever.
The mayflash magic-x also works.
Just got one at Target and the A button is sticking and squeaky right out of the box. Be wary of people recommending these, because I had seen others with this issue. Lame, returning it tomorrow.
What about its input latency?
I feel your pain with the elite 2. 4 tries,4 faulty. I'm using power A spectra now but another good/great option is the gamesir g7, 2 back buttons, instant triggers that can be turned on or off and adjustable trigger profile. Clicky abxy buttons. The only bad point for me is I have big hands and the palm grips are a little smaller than standard xbox
Tried PowerA Fusion controller and immediately returned it. Felt so cheap. It's made out of cheap, shiny plastics. Got the Turtle Beach Recon controllers and everything about it felt much better.
I've heard decent things about the Recon.. I prefer the Spectra over the Fusion. Have fun gaming!
Idk if I just lucked out in quality control on my series elite 2 but I’ve had mine for 2 years. I play COD almost daily so it goes through its paces, hasn’t even started with the stick drift.
That’s awesome! Glad it’s worked out for you!
Yeah I’ve had my series 2 for a year now and works great I’m getting a little stuck drift so looking for something else but it works just fine it’s more or less my
Excuse to my wife to buy a scuf or something else
I have finally found walhat I think is best for me after many controllers,I got the thrust master eswopX best controler I've had imo
This is by far the best controllers review I've found on YT. Thanks a lot
Thank you. There’s also a few good recommendations in the comments - but as I said a few times in the video, be aware of the controllers that have a much different shape. Have fun gaming!
I'm on my second power a. The first one lasted 3 months. The a button and the d pad broke. We'll see if the second one lasts longer but I doubt it. Glad I bought the warranty.
The Power A controller’s have weights in them, that’s why they feel heavier. It’s deceiving
Used Razer's for about 5 years now and they just next level in quality, I have big hands so their controllers are very comfortable.
Heres my experience with the Elite Controller Series 1. The micro usb eventually got so worn, it no longer worked. Trigger locks can easily break. Drift Stick was never an issue for me, i played alot of Forza and Halo when i was using it. The rubber grips started to wear and tear away. Then i noticed the paddles on the back noticeably the lower right, which was my reload or shift up, started to have play in the hinge or the little knob that pushes the tiny green button started to wear to the point i was pressing it multiple times for it to recognise. The Afterglow prismatic controller which i had before the elite series 1 controller came out, i went through 1 a year. Not too sure about the gen 2 though
Ye the one is bad gen 2 is sick I recommend you get it and you don’t get burned by it
I got my Xbox Elite 2 controller 2 years ago and so far it’s been lasting longer than I imagined because I usually abuses my controller with nothing straight up fighting games and shooting games. And I do use paddles here and there but it happens rarely though. But 2 days ago I ordered the white core elite 2 controller so I can be ready to switch when my og black elite 2 controller gives up on me lol but. Overall all these controller are very interesting and very cool and creative 👍💪
how is the elite holding in
Just wanted to put this out here as someone who’s used a wide variety of controllers.
Use precision rings on the razor. Turn sensitivity up with firm firm rings and you’ll have quicker, linear and smoother aiming in games like PUBG that don’t have aim assist.
Precision rings work with all controllers however specifically helps that razor controller.
I don't understand how those rings work - I'll need to check out a video about them! thanks for the comment !
I've been using The PowerA Fusion Pro for 3 years now, no problems
Razor has the app and on Xbox can change the dead zones and has aim slowdown button you can map to the M1-M4 buttons
Power A spectra is great but it got stickdrift in like 2 months of use, around 2 hours a day.
Which would you recommend for people with small hands?
I think PowerA / PDP, which you can find on amazon or a bestbuy - you can also return them fairly easily. Or try the RIG Nacon PRO Compact Controller
the triggers on elite series 2 go always 100% its just that the distance u have to press it down to is diffrent. 17:22 . thats misinformation. Aso the warranty is 1 year not 6 months. pls inform yourself better if ur doing reviews
I've got 5 years in my elite 2 and still works great
8bit do ultimate wired controller is the best and most affordable I've owned all these controllers and by far 8bit do is superior overall especially the d pad.
I bought a turtle beach recon and notice that hardly mentions how complicated the on the fly settings are for multiple profiles and the app only does firmware so you have to memorize tap hold multiple tap combos to use the back buttons at all or any of the features
I just need a controller that durable. My bumpers and triggers go out constantly. Any recommendations? I have an elite
I'm not sure if it exists really? I feel controllers are prone to breaking, which is why I go on the cheaper side and try to utilize the warranty
My top is
1st Wolverine because of the extra buttons and i can use it on pc and the focus option that makes your joystick get slower
2nd place is the standard xbox controller cuz i can use a strike pack on it to use it on other consoles
3rd place The elite 2 but the but with a good insurance
Thanks for sharing / watching!
Focus option?
@@st4r444 yup that's how Razer called that option and its functionality is that it makes the joystick go slower for better precision
@@ZHIGZAGON- how you do that?
how would power A compares to stock xbox one?
I'm more into durability than those much appealing back buttons
I've had a few stock xbox controllers crap out quickly, but overall I would give the stock controller a slight edge over the lower cost PowerAs for durability. The fusion PowerA lasted me for years.
I tried the PowerA controllers because a) they were cheap and b) they have backbuttons. 2 of them broke after 3 to 4 months and the third one was broken out of the box (stickdrift). The store where I bought it did give me a new one every time though so the service was good at least I suppose. Bought a 8bitdo ultimate after that and have been happy ever since.
How long ago was it since you bought the 8bitdo?
Nice video, I've been using the Elite 2, on my 2nd controller. It did last nearly a year but some of that time was using with buttons not working well. Luckily 2nd time I got a warranty from Best Buy. I was interested about the Power A though since I saw them but just passed on them due to the price. After your review I might look into one if my current controller goes out, amazing pricing on them for what you get!
I hate razer, but the wolverine v1 ultimate is the way for business in every game and easy to toggle 6 triggers on/off easily. Cost me 120 and yes being the old school 360 wired safety net if you yank accidentally, all is good. I love it
I use the TB recon it’s good for the price but the sticks will drift eventually.
I'm still trying to get used to changing settings manually on it and losing the back buttons and having to reset everything if the cable detaches or i plug into a different device
Two of my elite series 2 controllers had drift after a year of use and the last one I had the grips peeling SMH, here goes a 3rd now
Helllo man whats up
for PC gaming what would u recommend to me? i would like to get POwer A but iv read that it breaks easily, like all xbox controller broke or has stick drif problem... what can u recommend me
still not ergonomic and bad for your joints as almost every controller out there. controller needs to get much wider like the steamdeack - even wider to be ergonomic and fun to use. also the d-pad needs to join the angle of your thumb - so it needs to be turnd about 20-30% clockwise to fit your thumb. also - why are the ways of the bumper sooo long and also wrongly positioned? they need to be turned down so your index-finger dont ne be turned up and cramp/hurt after some time.
What's the most durable? I can't get more than a few months out of the standard Xbox brand wireless. Got even less out of my turtle beach before serious stick drift. Tired of buying these things.
Wolverine Ultimate was pretty reliable for me, it lasted about 2 years, but the buttons stopped working and it keeps disconnecting for me now
The powerA LED controller fuckin blows when it comes to Mic's cause half the time the controller will short circuit and loss all audio
I've had 3 different PowerA spectra wired controllers have audio issues. Something weird will happen- the controller will stutter, the RGB gets reset to the default, and then all of the sudden the audio is hyper bass-boosted and distorted, so I cannot use it for game audio or chat. I've swapped cables, used it on different xboxes, and every time it's the internal mechanism in the controller itself that seems to just die. Anyone else had this issue, or know ways to fix it? It's happened three times. I use a SteelSeries Arctis headset. Headset is working fine and has been tested on my phone and laptop and isn't the issue.
I had this happen to me. I found that after the controller flickered and the lights reset and audio got all messed up, that it had actually reset all of the sliders in the Xbox party audio settings.
Try starting an Xbox party, scrolling down to options, click audio settings and then pull the sliders back to sensible positions.
Im not sure what your doing to your standard xbox controller mine has being going strong ever since 2015
Depends on how much you play and what games you play.
@@BLiTz5 i play fps and racing about 8hrs a week
Ur spot on about the Elite Series 2… it’s hands down the most gucci, feature packed controller on the market, but the quality control is abysmal!!! I’m on my 3rd or 4th Series 2 (I lost count) and I think I went through 2 of the OGs. The price of one of these is actually around $230, because a protection plan is a must!!! Ive had shoulder buttons break, buttons stick, and out of the box stick drift. For this price, I can’t accept any of those issues, so I took the first three back to Best Buy. No wonder they may have stopped offering protection!
I use Argos. They NEVER quibble with the 2 year warranty. You are spot on with getting cover for every controller as they are ALL designed to fail....
I have the 8BitDo, which I like to use for FPS. Only problem is the paddles cancel each other out when pressed simultaneously. For example I have crouch on left paddle and throwing grenades on right paddle, which do not work at the same time. Idk if this was a problem when I first used it at the time of unboxing.
Weird I havnt had or noticed this .
@@hukkerz I think it's because I assigned each paddle for left dpad and right dpad, so it's not meant to be pressed at the same time unfortunately. I took notice with the new controllers I currently use.
Greatest review thanks 🙏
I hate the Elite 2 controller. When it works, it's perfect. Thumbsticks and buttons feel great. I like the paddles, and the grip. But I've RMA'd 3 of them for different reasons. The first one lasted 6 months, and then all of the subsequent ones broke within a month of use. Never again.
Heard a lot of similar stories! Great controller bad reliability
Im looking for a controller that allows me to use the clutch in ATS and ETS2 .Thank you for the video :- D
I found the 8bitdo xbox controller you showed off for like 20 bucks and I have to say it feels really nice I wouldn’t use it for a shooter though because the triggers feel a bit weird
do these all work with pc, I'm specifically asking about the wired ones
Good question! I can’t say 100% but I think they do. I know my powera ones work fine!
Every official Xbox controller I’ve used the “A” button is not really that responsive. I have a Turtle Beach Recon controller that I use on my PC that has given me no problems; I might start using that.
I'm interested in the PDP ones, They have amazing design but mechanically I wonder if they are worth it.
worth a try!
They are GOATED.
Hi man, i tryed the fusion pro but i figure out tge size is not the same as other controller it feels really big and couldn't play with it, is the spectra the same size?
That power A fusion original has trigger lag/ trigger input issues on pc. I own it and dont use it because its un-useable on PC.
Really don’t know if I should get the series 2 or not
I have an 8BitDo Pro 2 (I use it for switch and a retroid pocket 2+) and absolutely adore it.
Just to add a few cents in the bin. :)
I use the pdp enhanced, it has nice trigger and the headphone Jack works better than the PowerA
9:24 original Microsoft controllers are junk, I've returned mine 3 times under warranty so far. Came here to look for an alternative third party controller
When I had the instinct pro one of the first things I found out is you cannot remap the paddles to triggers for some stupid reason.
Bro is there any gyro xbox controller?
I use my trigger stops in pubg you just have to set your activation point and the full pull so it readjust
funny My Turtle Beach Recon Controller actually broke before the wire did. Sadly, started getting stick Drift Then the analogous stop centering at all I wouldn't Recommend one.
The exact same thing happened to my React R they use the same sticks. Got about 4 months of good use then the controller started drifting bad, then over the next few months the stick got worse and worse and wouldn’t re center at all. Target took it back after 9 months or so I was kinda shocked and gave my money back. I instantly ordered a gamesir G7 he. I have had a G7 Se for about a year and with heavy use it is as good and tight as it was new such a great controller. I will only be buying haul effect sticks from here on out
What about "Nacon"? It's a good one. No drift sticks.
Only one elite controller that people should buy to a Xbox and that’s eSwap S Pro 👍🏻
Im just looking for a semi budget controller that has the better joysticks. Im tired of dumping money into 1st party controllers just to drift 5 months after I purchase them
That's why I would go with PowerA or the Turtle Beach. Thumbsticks as of now, are always going to be a problem.
You missed a great one. Thrustmaster eswap pro controller is a very good one. Tension on the thumb sticks are among the best I’ve ever used. Mechanical face buttons as well. Solid controller
Ah bummer - I've heard of Thrustmaster but never that specific controller and no one mentioned it in my community. Thanks for pointing it out!
I’ve heard good things about the thrustmaster controller
I change sticks 2 times for drift problem
chill dont be putting everyon on that cheat code controller, i own two of th s ones and i own the first one, best controller i ever own besides the gambit
Nah, its not reliable... Stick drift after 2 months
The first controller that's reasonablely priced I think they sell it cheap on purpose I've gone through 8 of them they just break, I'm using the wolverine V2 at the moment it's a little bit more expensive but I've had no problems with it (yet) lol
I didn't even get to use the controller that came with my Xbox it was already done for lol the buttons would stick or just hide press it and nothing, thanks Xbox 😤
The Power A fusion 2 is the best controller I've ever had. I really wish they would come out with a wireless 1
Get the power a fusion 3 wayyyy better
Elite 2 core still crap quality but really great features but damn I got the extra warranty and I just get a new one like every 6 months because something stops working.
Grazie gran bel lavoro...GG ,dopo 20 anni di PlayStation sono passato a Xbox serie x gli ultimi 2 anni ho utilizzato Razer raju tournament ora utilizzo il nuovo controller x box ma mancano i rear Button grazie al tuo video valuterò il nuovo aquisto..grazie ancora
PDP Aftrerglow Wave. Hands down best bang for your buck
seems decent!
I wish Microsoft would go back to what ever they used to make the xbox one controllers. I had two for my pc and gamed daily. After almost 10 years they finally started getting stick drift. I guess I was lucky because I have never read or heard from anyone, of them lasting that long. But mine have seriously been tanks.
Had 2 elite series 2 and both within 6 months developed bumper issues
I would rather buy a controller that’s more expensive and has less features because it usually lasts longer. Some controllers have so many features at such at a lower price but then the build quality is terrible. I usually just get one really good controller and it lasts me for years
My controllers seem to break fairly quickly whether I buy an expensive or a cheap one, so I go for the more cost effective ones.
What’s a quiet controller you guys recommend?
Check out Razer Wolverine TE. My favorite aftermarket controller so far. On 2nd one now in like 3 years.
My powerA controller died in 1-2wks so I just bought a plug-in to give me back buttons
Why you forgot the nacon revolution X, its a great gamepad, good rear button, very good software, face button very accurate an nice feeling, and the great qualité is the stick of te nacon revolution X, a master piece. Bumper nice , but maybe life time...( i have since it 5 month, i wait again for that)
Exelente Review!
Me ajudou bastante, muito obrigado.
Vai comprar qual ?
@@Orcus47 mano eu fui de Wolverine ultimate, pela pesquisa q fiz eo mais duradouro, e mano zero delay muito melhor q meu elite 2!
scuf helped with the series controllers if that helps you figure out the problems with them
I can speak for the Razer Wolverine Ultimate, it definitely is a different shape/feel vs the Xbox og controller, but something you can get used to. The overall and long term quality is very good especially vs the Xbox Elite controller(my elite didn't last a year), the Razer didn't and still doesn't have any stick drift(at least mine) after a couple of years of moderate to heavy usage, the kind of quality you expect for something in this price range. I haven't tried many aftermarket controllers, but this one is definitely my favorite so far. Two thumbs up🎮👍👍.
Only issue is it's wired. What's the best wireless xbox controller?
@@johnnyjets2343 If you have extra disposable income, I've heard Scuff controllers are pretty good, albeit somewhat expensive.
I use power a but I tried the turtle beach and it was really good but there was a problem with the cable but it was easy to replace
check out PDP controllers, they have a full app and built in mix amp.
they seem very similar to PowerA!
Regardless if you play every day or not I feel like they should last way longer than 3 or 4 months.
Honestly I kept skipping this video cuz I assumed it was an add and it ended up being a great video 😂
ha, thanks man! Just wanted to try and help a few people out because I've used a few different controllers!
For sure man! Im tryna buy my first third party tbh.
Thrustmaster ESWAP X with d-pad and left stick switched to be similar to the superior controller. (Playstation)
Playstation controller layout is garbage
Even tho I play ps this is still helpful to get a idea of companies
I just don’t understand the quality issues… my ps3 controller is still working perfectly fine over 10 years
Depends on the product, how much you play what game. Kinda like cars, some last forever - others breakdown immediately.
Ya can't beat the scuff, no comparison, they been at it since the 360 days
When I had my xbo1 ..I had 2 elite controllers.. they had worthless quality but they was awesome as long as they worked 😂
Now I have a xbox x mini and a G2 controller.. I'm very satisfied with it..
Imo, controllers are like buying cars ^^ it's all about personal taste and money ..