Tripod Shooting - 3 Mistakes When Shooting from a Tripod
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Hey guys, here's a quick #tripodtuesday video for you on the three common mistakes we see shooters make when shooting from tripods.
Modern marksmanship mechanics and higher quality equipment have changed the way we address the rifle from the tripod.
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The tripod I'm using in this video is a Really Right Stuff TFCT-24L with an Anvil 30 ball head.
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This is one of the crispest shooting skills videos I have ever seen. No product placement (except the obvious) or buzz words, just some good tips and techniques.
I just ordered my first tripod today because I am in need of a steady rest due to Parkinsons' disease. I have enjoyed long guns most of my life, but the shaking made me set them to the side for a time. I have subscribed to your channel and plan on picking up proper methods of tripod shooting in hopes I can once again start enjoying my rifles once again. Thanks for the lessons and your time to put it together.
Content has been getting better and better!
Worth being on the modern day rifleman network and the people in it are also amazing.
Great information. Very thorough and I really appreciate that you take the time to really show each technique instead of just explaining. My brain won’t retain anything unless I can see it
Awesome content. Nowadays is very difficult to find a true video on said subject without being forced to watch marketing and propaganda down our throats just so the viewer to hear a 25 second true review or lesson.
17 minute very well invested.
Thank you for the lessons.
Great stuff. Really appreciate the bit about clipping in versus the table and bag. I always just clipped in at the balance point. I will be trying this and clipping in further forward. Thanks!
Omg! I never thought about clipping so forward to eliminate vertical wobble. Can’t wait to dryfire off the deck in the next few days. A lot of these tips were given by Paul Spriggs as he coached me last weekend. Like scooting up to the legs. Thank you, I’ll check your site.
Excellent presentation. Thank you, Caylen! I've not practiced on a tripod, but will seek it out with your wisdom applied standing, high kneeling, and low kneeling.
having never used a tripod before this is an awesome video. I took my tripod to the NRL Hunter championship match last week in Idaho and failed to properly use my tripod on any of the 20 stages. Next year will be different- thanks
Love these body mechanic videos! Really helps me to go back through my personal footage and see the details I'm completely missing
Rare you see a video like this where the creator doesn't say the real secret is a specific whiz-bang exclusive product you should buy.
He just says yeah you need to shoot better 😂
Awesome tips. I typically hunt sitting down calling in coyotes. I sometimes use a monopod and these tips certainly apply to that use.
Literally the best tripod shooting explanation video I have seen! Well done sir! everything you mentioned is just spot on!!!!
exactly what i was looking for. Glad i saw this before buying my gear. Thank you!
Wonderful advice and loads of information!
Great content! It's incredible how fast technique is evolving in recent years.
Great video. Gives me some great ideas for use of my Bog death grip tripod. I am very satisfied with mine.
One of the most informative channel , I’ve leaned in my tripod for years and never considered these techniques . Also outtakes are a great touch
Glad you like it! Outtakes are fun to edit too!
Good advice, the bluepers at the end were a nice touch. 👌
I've been watching this channel and love it. It's super informative. Just some observations from my own personal experience, not to criticize but to perhaps get clarity and hopefully more information:
1. The analogy of "we don't lean forward to shake someone's hand"..... No we don't... but if someone was going to try and push us over, we would lean in, which is what the rifle is going to try and do to us when it fires. From a combat shooting perspective, we encourage a 5 degree bend at the hips. This is to assist in recoil mitigation, but it's not so extreme that it causes gross engagement of the core. In my experience, I have found that a very slight bend at the hips to be beneficial to help maintain a proper indexing of the rifle to shoulder and assist in mitigating recoil. From looking at your position when you get behind the rifle in a standing position, that directly upright position isn't maintained, eg. There isn't a straight line between your ankles, hips and shoulders. So is the teaching point here, a minor or slight bend in the hips is ok, however we don't want to be leaning so far in that we are basically using the tripod to support our weight, and the analogy is used to try and encourage a more vertical position than what is typically seen?
2. The use of muscle. We are always engaging muscle, even when just standing around, or we'd fall over. So i'm finding a lot of the time people think they are supposed to be this completely dead weight behind the rifle due to the idea that they should be completely relaxed. There's minor subconscious muscle use being involved in the shooting operation when building the position, and i believe the take away might be, not to use GROSS muscle during the firing operation, eg, like a squat would be. My understanding is that we use our bicep to pull the rifle back into us in the prone position, but we don't drive forward with our shoulder. The bicep is a major muscle, so it's still being used? What i've seen, on the line and in myself, is that when i am standing square behind the rifle, i have a habbit of locking my knees out so that i am not engaging leg muscle, until i'm ready to fire. I have also seen people let their hips roll forward and their back take the pressure while standing, but they set the tripod up to their "chillin" position, and when it comes time to fire, they find their posture has been compromised and they are too low. The Teaching points i was given was that, in the same way as we stand non master foot forward in the combat shooting stance, so shall it be when behind the tripod. The concern of one foot forward, one foot back is that we have a propensity to blade off which affects our recoil management, however we can mitigate this through the "feet on rails" analogy where our feet point straight ahead (the body follows the feet) to maintain the forward position of the hips and shoulders, with the pro of this position being that we are still in our dynamic position, our rear foot apply pressure forward naturally, not through force, and is ready to catch us during the recoil operation, whilst the front foot is supporting the body as the centre of gravity shifts forward slightly due to the 5 degree bend in the hips. When we are in the gym and we are doing over head press, we stand one foot forward and one back to support ourselves and help ease pressure off the core. So it made sense to me to move to that stance to support my upper body. I've found this to be a more neutral position and feel this is superior to standing straight behind the rifle, but it doesn't afford me the ability to adjust my position with the widening and closing of my stance like the square behind the rifle position does and it can cause the rear foot to blade out which causes the body to follow if we move our feet in and out.
Please don't see this as argumentative, i'm genuinely just trying to get the classic "what, how, why, vs" of the position in order to understand what changing to this style is offering me.
So i guess my Question is, is a slight bend in the hips ok?
Why am i standing square behind the rifle vs one foot forward one foot back?
I'm eager to hear anyone's opinion on this as i'm still in the learning phase for tripod shooting and i'm consciously incompetent.
Thanks in advance
Good info. I’ve seen me struggling with these issues. More!👍🏻🇺🇸
My first mistake is I don’t have one. Woods! Got a bipod
Great video, Caylen! Can’t believe I didn’t see this earlier.
Thank you. Great video the tips will help correct mistakes I would have made !!!
The Bog death grip tripod does have a level on it to get your firing position level for accuracy. This way if you have to set up on uneven surfaces your assured of consistent accuracy. Up/down and left/right transition.
Great video , very informative and zero fluff .
Great job pal very informative appreciate your time 👍🇦🇺
Fantastic content, coach
I watched this the morning of Record Fire 4 (Movers) of U.S. Army Sniper School. Prior to watching your video I was really struggling with my standing tripod shooting (I had never shot off a tripod before coming to Sniper School). I got 3/3 of those standing tripod shots on a moving target 9 inches wide thanks to your tips. Thank you much!
You get your B4?
Very helpful. Thank you!
Love my bog pod. Want to upgrade it to a ball head. It also needs to be a little higher.
Thank you! Very useful!
Good info…thx
Lol….I’m always shooting above, around or below something….
Will try spreading feet to stay more upright
This is great information. Thanks
Thank you, Great video.
Exceptional content!
One thing I always work on is let the tripod do the work. Transition in this situation can be difficult unless you are up/down adjustable for near/far and left/right available for the firing position.
So if we don't want to clip the rifle in further back towards the bottom metal then why are we seeing so many stock manufacturers starting to put Arca Swiss rails in those positions? I understand the mechanics of it and the advantage for stability when clipped in further out towards the muzzle but I don't understand why the industry is pushing for the opposite if it doesn't support proper mechanics. It's good to see some more modern technique applied to shooting off of tripods, the last time I took a class that touched on it was some 5-6 years ago and they were still teaching the weight into the tripod process. Thanks for sharing, this video was very informative.
It sounds like good advise, but i am concerned when shooting a moving target and need to be able to raise or lower the muzzle and swing all at the same time...Thanks this will make me a better shooter!
Great tips, I have seen alot of content where people clip in their Arca rails in the middle balence point. I like it forward on the forearm as you explained very well. This was also a great demonstration on keeping your knees, hips and shoulders aligned. "Subscribed"
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome as always! Outtakes 🤣😂
Thank you!
Thank You!
Good looking out
Thank you for your time. In the past two years, one of the greatest joys in my life. My daughter has begun hunting with me, she's now 14. She has a true aptitude for Archery and shooting. She began learn marksmanship; starting with air to live rounds.
I take it to heart the advice MDS provides and to pass it down to her. We have in out future a Western U.S. big game hunt. Learning proper safety, fundamental's and techniques are paramount to an ethical harvest. In 17:min. This video gave me fundamental's I didn't even consider. from proper stance to pulling the rifle to your shoulder if you're using a tripod. Ironically, my daughter felt more comfortable shouldering her rifle with her back and hips in line. Maybe she's been watching your channel. 🤔
By chance do you have a video for these fundamentals'; shooting from elevated and ground blinds. Seated in a chair. Thank you again; Aim True
Our fundamental videos can be found over at www.moderndayrifleman.com
Good stuff.
Very well done video... I learned SOOO much!...
Gear Question: What brand tactical table and where to buy?
Great video
You have a well "balanced" presentation.......
Great content! Was wondering where you got your camo net attached to your tripod on your spotting scope? I’ve got to get me one of those!!
really informative video .. what rail system are you using . I like the way the rifle clipped in ..
What you were saying about rifle placement on the tripod makes sense, but you are the first person that I’ve heard saying you don’t want to have it near the center of gravity!
Same principle as having your bipod as far forward as possible less verticle dispersion of barrel wobble induced with the focal point closest to the muzzle.
Excellent content
Hi Keylan, nice video, buddy! Informative and detailed. Thank you for this!
I have a question. Since I am interested in Kopfjager tripods, can you do a review with one of theirs with the Reaper Grip Kit and gave us some heads up. Is this possible? What do you think? Thanks!
I can't believe that no one asked about the nice looking & practical jacket that you are wearing in this vid. Can you please share info on it? I've had no luck find the brand label online. Thanks for the comprehensive & detailed tripod use vid.
Great Again for your use of the sand bag support on the tripod. Unfortunately you can't let go of the weapon in this state.
Thanks for the vid. What's the best tripod you've come across?
This is the way
1000 Tnx from Denmark.
I just watched the first 53 sec and subscribed
Gold!
How do you establish a natural point of aim with a tripod? Or is establishing the sight picture and putting the least amount of input on the rifle what is key?
Thank you/all🤘
Very interesting and valid information. One question please but nothing to do with the lesson, what is the brand of your hat? Looks warm, comfortable and practical. Many thanks.
Glad I found your channel ! What kind of Tripod are you using ?
What is needed is a study of which positions produce varying amounts of jitter into the sight picture. My study shows the fundamental problem with the tripod in terms of performance is the hinge point being near the center of the rifle's length. This means one millimeter of vertical movement produces one millimeter of vertical muzzle movement. If the hinge point was half of that distance closer to the muzzle, at 75% of total length, then one millimeter of vertical movement produces .5 mm of muzzle movement. In my study of different slings and contraptions the jitter could not be significantly reduced, it can't compare to a bench setup. On the other hand, I've hit a mile off tripod many times so how good does it need to be?
Recommendations for a tripod that works for someone taller? 6’5” plus?
I'm 6'4" and have a Leofoto 364. I don't extended the bottom legs all the way so it may work for you, but just have to try it and see man.
First time on the channel. Great content! I’m not a precision shooter, but I want to zero my semiautomatic rifle accurately at an indoor range (by using a holdover POA to a POI target that matches a ballistic table at 25 yards for a 50 yard zero) using a tripod. I’m using a vice style set up which does have a little wobble. It’s an inexpensive (but not cheap) SLIK Tripod PRO 700 DX AMT KIT with a pan head. I just heard you say that having a center post is the reason for wobble. Could it also be that I am also attaching the pan head to the rifle vice? With that said, should I be looking at a tripod without a a center post and migrate to an Arca setup. If so, what do you recommend for a setup for less than 500 dollars?
Where can I find the Tac Table in the video? I haven't been able to find many options online aside from the MUB ($$$), heavy steel options, or printed plastic.
Anyone have an idea what chassis is being used in this video?
Well done. Excellent presentation.
Great content - Thanks for sharing. Curious to see a video on using a saddle vice with a semiautomatic rifle since the weight distribution will be at the end of the rifle. Each time I clamp one in it still tilts a little.
Same here!
What chassis is that rifle on?
where do I purchase the tripod you used in the video? new to the channel. thanks for great information
Nice video
What brand tripod are you using like to get one? 16:28
What Bipod are you using?
Where can I buy that tripod rifleman
What chassis is that @0:36?
0:35
what is that mount?
I tried today but it was a failure. But, I'll get it, I just need more practice.
Good video. One problem with tall tripod as hooting is if something c I me running at you
LETS SAY A HOG
you can not raise your stock high enough to make the shot.
How do I know? Happened to me twice.
Me too. I just pulled my pistol out.
I was expecting a photography tips and tricks video
Hi Mate, first time watching your vids, but can i ask if you always set up your tripod orientation with two legs back and one forward?
Sometimes, it's situationally dependent. In most situations I prefer one leg forward as it makes the recoil impulse more repeatable and the rifle comes right back to the initial sight picture. In the mountains or in other situations shooting uphill or downhill one leg back is a better option.
Regardless of the weapon platform: feet, ankles, knees, hips, back, shoulders and head.
Have you got any trekking polls that convert into shooting sticks recommendations? these tripods are fine for truck hunting but not for hike Ing in weight sensative
I'll use trekking poles for hasty solutions but my tripod goes with my rifle, literally everywhere.
How much cheek pressure should you be placing on the rifle?
Not much at all; should be gentle pressure along the jaw line, keeping the head upright
Hey man I was wondering what you have in that bag on the tac table that looks so plush I need something like that 🤘🏻 I just got into a tripod and this helped out tremendously
It’s a Schmedium Gamechanger waxed canvas bag with heavy (sand) fill
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER thanks
@@airaddict6171 If you want to "old school" it, back in the day we used discarded jean legs - two, one inside the other, for one sandbag; fill it up with sand (sand density is an acquired taste - some like it to be really packed and firm, others not so much), then wire-tie each end. The wire-tie I used was the bare ground wire out of a 12-2 Romex line; the stuff is strong and twists tight. Mine lasted for over 25 years; later, I used it for hammer-forming sheet metal, so they're stout. You can tailor-cut the length of bag you need for almost any use.
@@waynegroves6922 thank you I’m going to try that out 👍😀
@@airaddict6171 Did you try it out?
Listen here Young Man, If you ever get to live to ripe old age of 86, You will walk up to a person like you demonstrated at 5:11 of your video. 🤭 Live well my friend.
you didn't mention the use of bubble measure for precision shooting. I put one on top of my scope to check for perfect balance.
That's implied knowledge/skills at this point in ones' training. We'd consider this an advanced skill, whereas using a level is a basic skill for the long range shooter.
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER does the bubble help in sighting the scope? I was watching bod death grip tripod video and the guy said I always use bubble device whenever I shoot anything lol
Great content as always. But can we stop saying "heigth" already? 😂
Great video 👌, what tripods are you using ?
Really Right Stuff SOAR line.
Are you using the spike tips or rubberized bulbs for your tripod feet? 🤔
Rubber feet.
Fire.
Great video!!! Learned a TON… I’m all about quality products… but $1500 for a tripod is insanity… any advice on something under $500…
It’s not insane after you shoot off of one! Two Vets Sporting Goods is an excellent lower cost alternative that has about the same rigidity and stability.
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER I get it! And I’m sure you’re right. Fir some of us, price comes into factor :) thanks for the quick reply I’ll check them out.
@@DCSuperShine BOG Deathgrip Shooting Tripod
@@GD-zj2dl I jumped out and looked it over, and liked it enough to snip a page copy for future reference; I just may pick that one up.
Bog death grip is a very good tripod for about $170 ...I've been using mine with great success
Hello everyone, I would like you to help me with your opinion, I am from Peru and bringing a tripod from abroad costs a lot, I brought a Sunwayfoto T3640CM with an IB65 head and the truth is a total disappointment, in the head specification it says that it supports 30 kg, but when I put my rifle on it, which with all the accessories weighs around 8 Kg, it couldn't hold it, it went backwards, I was thinking of bringing a Fatboy tripod, but it is super expensive, and this vortex is also expensive but cheaper than the Fatboy, they tell me that the vortex leveling head will hold my rifle without a problem, is that true? I wouldn't want to spend money in vain again, because there isn't much hahaha. And well the RRS is even more expensive than all of them.
Let's say you're shooting a stage, kneeling on a tripod. Do you pick up the entire tripod to pivot for objectives left/right of you?
JFC it's height not heigth.
Otherwise solid instruction.
👍 !!!
There a lot different ways people are posting how to use the tripod you need to do what works for you
Why do I get the feeling he made most of this up while he went lol