We Test 3 Side-by-Sides in Andre's Pit, But Only ONE Nails It!
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2022
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In this video, Tommy and Nathan compare 3 side-by-sides to find out which is the best pick for you, a utility machine, a sport machine, or a do-it all SxS.
Kawasaki MULE Pro-FXT Ranch Edition
Polaris GENERAL XP 1000 Troy Lee Designs Edition
Polaris RZR Pro R 4 Ultimate
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It was kind of brilliant that Kawasaki provided that long term loaner. It's gotten a lot of air play - all positive. I'm willing to bet that a good number of them have been sold just based on how impressive it's been at TFL.
Yo did I just hear that the mule has 1600lbs of payload capacity and 2000lbs of tow capacity all of that in a small SXS that's pretty impresive
Sure the Polaris models have better specs but, if reliability and longevity are what you’re looking for in a SxS purchase, you can’t go wrong with a Kawi!
I cannot understand why people continue to purchase polaris utv's. They are continuously broken down !!! Pieces of junk
My favorite feature on every Polaris is the auto destruct mode where they spontaneously burst into flames for no reason.
Had a Mule for over 10 years, and it never left the farm to be repaired. My neighbor has a Polaris, and it is not abused, but seems to break constantly.
Please teach Nathan about turf mode, 4x2, and 4x4 locked. . and when driving or rock crawling use LOW and not High. In 4x2 the rear is always locked, then you can engage the front locker when needed off road! That was a little hard to watch...lol
Oh and just for reference when Nathan drives the General. It has turf mode so he was in 1 wheel drive on the course. He stated it had 2x4, 2 wheel drive lock, & 4x4. In the dips you started in turf. It’s a feature I thought I’d hate but now that I can make 3 pin turns like a go kart I love it
The comparisons were great. It seems as though the sport utility market has grown a lot. I started looking at X3, then Talon and stumbled on the General and I'm glad I did. I was about to mention the same thing when Nathan was driving. If he would have had it in 2-wheel drive it would have gone up the trenches with ease. I have the XP4 Trailhead Edition and while it doesn't have the turbo, for my needs its perfect. Would love to see more reviews on the General since this is clearly a player.
I'll take that Kawasaki all day. It's the pontoon boat of utvs. Does everything.
As with most other things in life, buy the Japanese one -- for reliability, capability and peace of mind.
Amen!!
For longevity and reliability the mule would be the way to go
I bought a 2020 Yamaha Wolverine X4 a few years ago and it has been awesome. We take the family out off road and I plow my driveway with it. Great all around machine.
Would like to see a test of the more practical "all-around use" 4 - 5 seat UTV's for ranch, hunting ,trail and family fun: i.e. Polaris General, Honda Pioneer, Kawasaki Terrx, etc.
Yamaha RMAX 4 1000. Beats them all in every single review.
Those prices you quoted are MSRP, once the dealers add their setups, tax, destination, registration it is a lot more.
A dealer here in Phoenix quoted me $6,300 in fees, tax and all that to a RZR Pro XP Ultimate. bringing that from $32,899 to something like $38,500 Crazy price.
Yup my grandpa got the 4 door Kawasaki general and it’s by far the best!
That was fun to watch! lol The last one you guys did was awesome! However, unless you live near the desert or areas where you can travel fast with it it is just not practical for the amount of money.
Love the what a machine comment and would love to see some more top gear style challenges on the next series of affordable vehicles
This test comparison is all about play capability and not work capability. With that in mind the General wins, and it's obvious, because $45k is insane for that RZR (General and Mule are $20k out the door). BUT the Mule handles this course just fine, but a bit bumpier. If the test comparison was all about work capability, the Mule wins. That's expected, because Kawasaki was making the Mule as a working machine long before any of the others even got into the SxS game. The play aspect has completely changed the SxS market, and Kawasaki has adapted very well.
Feedback for you all - when you're driving any type of belt drive machine, you should always use LOW - not HIGH when trying to move slow, climb hills, etc. It's really hard on the belt to use high when you're moving slower.
Yamaha being the exception. You rarely have to use low gear in a Yamaha.
I have the General XP4 Trailhead Edition. Love it. Work and play all in one machine with room for the Fam. Nav that tracks ride, and forward and reverse cameras you can toggle back and forth while riding
That razor costs as much as a Ford BRONCO. Thingz is gettin' Silly...
The Mule has the same towing capacity as Tommy's Willys.
That TLD colour scheme though! What a machine!
I love when y'all do comparison videos with ALL different types of vehicles.
BUT. I've got to be brutally honest, switching drivers between vehicles really ruins the comparisons, there is no consistency..
At any rate I love y'all and thanks for the videos. 💚
One thing about the Kawasaki mule it will be around still doing work how long after those other two have already been melted down into a Honda hubcap.
I have a 1998 Kawasaki mule it has over 4000 hours on it still on the original engine and drivetrain, and probably the most dependable thing i own.
It is out lasted probably five or six Polaris rangers not to mention this junkie Can-Am I have right now. Don’t give me wrong that Ken M is pretty nice and that Rotax engine is bulletproof but they sure need to work on their drive line. Axles and clutches don’t last long in a Can-Am.
Actually in the Kawasaki dealership in Bryan Texas there’s a sign on the wall that says the only two things it’s going to be left on this earth in another 500 years is roaches and Kawasaki mules 🤣
But remember your not driving your mule at speeds coming close to the sport side-by-sides.
45k for a side by side is absolutely insane I’d never spend that much on something like that 😂
If I lived somewhere they were legal on the road I would lol
@@halogod0298 I’m 5min from wv and it’s legal to ride them on the road there as long as u buy a pass I pay for the pass and ride my atv all over
Pay to play. People drop 250k on a boat nowdays 45k on a full race sxs isn't outta site for the rich folks
Man these dudes have some high standards. When I was a kid my dad bought a “Bulldog Pup” side by side. That thing was 2wd, 8HP, and a swing arm rear suspension. But I had a blast with it. Even took it on the Uhwarrie national forest OHV trail one time. “Kawasaki mule wouldn’t be fun, you can’t use it on a trail.” You know the kind of trouble I would’ve gotten into with almost 50 horsepower, 4wd, and decent suspension?
Definitely the General for me, but still too expensive.
Nice to see Nathan
the last one they did was soooo fast
What sidexsides can do off road amazing. While 45K is crazy expensive for a toy, how much would a Wrangler or Bronco cost for the same capabilities? BTW we need more Nathan!
not to mention the sxs is going to be more reliable and more fun.
"how much would a Wrangler or Bronco cost for the same capabilities?"
You would have to re-mortgage your house to get one of those to come close to the RZR.
@@patd4u2 lol couldn't do it with my house nor would I.
The pro r isn't turbo charged. 4 cylinder naturally aspirated. Keep up the excellent review videos, tfl team.
It’s also 74 inches wide. Not 64 or 72 like they mentioned.
Could've swore I heard a turbo whistle but I'm old so can't hear to good anymore.
Sorry Nathan pro r is NOT turbo charged. It's NA, turbo R is boosted not PRO R. 4cly also it's 74 inches wide
77 inches wide
Well, I guess a VW bug based side by side is way cheaper and it can follow the recipie of the RZR to be just as capable (big tires, long travel, fox suspension, a lot of horsepower...) yeah, It ain't 4x4, but a very light vehicle with very big n wide tires generally has enough grip for anything
Personally switched to the can am maverick got tired of changing axles on the Polaris rzr but I’m pretty pretty rough on my machine
Come on guys, this is comparing apples and oranges! I did find it amusing 😄 ! Good 👍 deal!
All of those are really cool vehicles in their own way but that mule has impressed me time and time again with what you have put it through. I imagine you will miss it when it's gone. Great video guys. I'm enjoying seeing Nathan across all the channels.
Yes, it is the only single vehicle which has made it through the harder course, multiple times. It has gone through Tommy's Demise waaaaay more than any other vehicle, and in way more varying conditions, too. It's just unstoppable when in capable and skilled hands, and has proven itself well beyond any of the other machines on the course, period. It's the thing they go get to pull out other vehicles, who can't make it through the mud on the harder course.
They are all ripping you off on prices though. Have you see the Kawasaki broken down into pieces? There isn’t $20,000 worth of vehicle sitting there, the manufacturers are setting the prices because people are stupid enough to pay the prices. Think about a $20,000 car and how much technology is in that car and how much crash testing they have had to go through. Side by sides have saved the motorcycle industry!
More brands represented please, love the viewer comments on their experiences and preferences. At 20-30k a Roxor or older Jeep type vehicle is in the same price range. What’s that I smell? Is it a For a few bucks less SxS challenge? 😃
U guys often drop the ball on the true off road stuff but this one was good. Small critique. Start these tests in LOW. The pro r is not turbo it is NA. Ik you don't have the choices of vehicle but I would have done defender 1000 6x6 3. Wolverine rmax 2. Rzr pro r2
please try to get your hands on the tomcar TM the original 2wd, israeli engineered tank of a side by side things goes anywhere and back !
I’d go with the Honda. I believe Honda uses gears rather than a cvt
You didn't mention that there are 2 more RZR models between the General and the RZR Pro R. The XP and the Pro are considerably cheaper and a tad bit smaller. Bit they would still eat that course up without a sweat.
There could be some interesting comparisons in the wide range of brands and models of any of the several classes of SxS's. XP vs X3 vs TRX, etc. Some are more race machines (Sand Dunes), and some are more trail and rock crawlers. But they can play in each other's field...
What a machiiine!! haha classic Jeremy Clarkson
You gotta try the Mule Pro-Mx LE EPS
Thought I was watching Mark Rober for a second with the intro music, lol
Nice wheelie
I would buy a Yamaha if it were my money. More reliable than a Polaris, smoother and quieter also.
It would be great to see more utv reviews from TFL! I'm currently in the market for another new unit but it's tough when you can't try a vehicle out before you buy. We need a vehicle that can seat at least 4 and still be able to work/play. Thanks Tommy and Nathan.
There goes in smoke the cvt belt of the general
lets get one of those japanese mini trucks and see what it can do on the off road ranch , now i dont mean the offroad course but doing work
Nathan used to annoy me but I really like him now. He offers balance to the channel.
His family feels the same way.
@@rzu7120 lol
Nathan is my favorite.
Full face helmets ?
Should have some hand sanitizer too.
You guys got the model name and the specs wrong on the Pro R 4. No turbo. Its also 72" wide, not 64.
When yall going to get a can am on the test track
THANKS FOR THE REVIEW GUYS, HOWEVER DO YOUR RESEARCH ON POLARIS CVT TRANSMISSIONS. ANYTIME YOU'RE RIDING LESS THAN ABOUT 10 MPH, YOU NEED TO BE IN LOW RANGE .
ONCE YOU GET GOING YOU NEED TO KEEP GOING IF YOU HOLD THE VEHICLE WITH THE THROTTLE YOU ARE SLIPPING THE BELT. YOU HAVE TO HOLD THE VEHICLE WITH THE BRAKE . OTHER WISE YOUR DOING DAMAGE TO THE BELT AND CLUTCHES, ONLY REASON I BRING THIS UP IF A NOVICE WATCHES THIS AND DECIDES TO GO BUY ONE AND DOESN'T KNOW THIS INFO THEY WILL DEFINITELY BE BACK TO THE DEALER TO REPLACE THE BELT AND POSSIBLY CLUTCH PARTS....THANKS FOR THE VIDEO. MUCH ENJOYED.
Nathan sounds like hes got a mouthful of peanut butter with a helmet on lol
need to bring on the UTV roxor
For average joes likes me, it makes sense to buy a base 4x4 mid size truck and just get a side by side to have fun. I mean, getting a raptor, trx, trd pro to have fun, well you risk the following:
1. Ruin it by trail damage. That would cost you and leave you stranded, especially with family.
2. It would be a lot more harder to afford both, the side by side and vehicle.
If you got money than my comment does not apply.
Thats why i can only afford a $40k 4x4 vehicle (mid size truck, suv) and that leaves me like $20k max to afford a side by side.
Option two would be to get like a trail boss or trd pro, but thats it and i defenetly would be mad if i damage it and for daily commuting would not be as fun.
Pro R is neat UNTIL you hear the cost!!
RIDICULOUS if your a commoner!
Just get the 2 seat RZR Pro XP Sport for around $25k. That is way cheaper than the 4 seat RZR Pro R. If you need the utility of a bed with off-road then the General XP 1000 for about the same price.
The third one is a work horse
Can someone please explain to me how low range works on a side-by-side with a CVT? How can there be low range gearing when there are no gears in a CVT?
A sxs CVT relies on the gears in the transaxle to shift. Park, reverse, high, low, and neutral. The CVT primary is mounted to the engine crankshaft. The CVT secondary mounts to the transaxle input shaft. The CVT belt connects them. You cannot shift on the fly. It works just how it sounds though. It changes the final drive ratio. Full throttle in high will top out at about 100 mph in an X3. In low gear it will top out at 50 or so. It makes slow speed crawling much easier and creates less belt stress. Exact same concept as any 2 speed transfer case.
The CVT is considered a variable speed transmission from engine input to output to gearbox.
The CVT runs a gearbox. When you're in H, the gears will move the vehicle faster as the CVT engages it's variable clutching in engine acceleration and vehicle speed.
When you put the gearbox in L, you are choosing a lower speed gearing and the CVT performs the same function as before with more engine acceleration and power and less CVT stress and slip.
If you are in H ⚙️, and come upon a hill or obstacle you will most likely stress the clutch belt because it will have a higher resistance in turning the gears.
When you have the gearbox in L ⚙️, the CVT is less stressed and the belt will slip less preventing belt burn because it is engaging the primary and secondary clutches and overcoming most resistance the wheels may encounter in climbing or bogging.
Bottom line there is a gearbox that makes the wheels turn faster or slower per ENGINE/CVT RPM; the CVT is a mechanism to engage the engine to the TWO speed (High/Low) gearbox.
↙️
High and low are usually done in the transfer case after the transmission
Low low low. Never use high range for slow driving. You will burn the belt quick. The mule is a different story. It’s has a lower top speed and I believe lower gearing, the mule and John Deere gators have the same drivetrain and you can get away with using high gear around the yard and stuff. That general has a top speed around 80mph. If you’re not hauling ass on the trails or down the road, use low.
Typically your owners manual will tell you the maximum speed for low gear…. For example my Kawasaki Teryx owners manual recommends low gear for anything less then 15MPH….
ill have 1 of each please
Polaris dosen't offer a 4 cylinder turbo!
Did you say "$45 K for the Razor? Who in the hell is paying that kind of money for one of these? that's insane.
Not to mention most folks will need a truck and trailer to take it to where they can use it.
People with good paying jobs I would think.
A ton of people are.
LOL I have a Polaris 570 Full size and it is MORE than capable of some very severe off roading. Yes you aren't running at full speed but that is just a good way to break shit all the time. I have many friends who run the RZR's and Kawasaki's and they do have to replace stuff all the time. I do NOT. And I get to haul my firewood, brush, hay, whatever.
Razor is not turbo its a 4 cylinder 2.0
What happened to the guy from Canada who did the Teryx review a couple years ago? That guy kicked ass.
Has his own channel called Truck King
@@MADAmechanical Thanks!
Nathan supports the current thing
Kawi mule is boss
You can get a full dump as well. 🤔
Your logs are too close to each other. You need to take out 2 out of 3. that would allow the tires to drop between the logs.
These are a new versions of the old Baja Beatles people used to make in the 60’s
Why did you show the Polaris Razor when the comparable unit should be the Polaris Ranger 4x4.
Because the Mule is comparable to the Ranger. The KRX would be better suited to be compared to the RZR. Of course the workhorse category is the best setup to be used around the field but, that was not the point of that comparison.
The Ranger is work focus the Rzr is play focus.
If Kawasaki spent just a bit more money 💰 to make the mule more horse 🐎 like, it would be excellent value. Improve the seat, make the suspension more compliant and it would be hands down the winner. At my age, the RZR is too fast. My days of thrill seeking is over.
Kawasaki has a completely different machine for that. The Kawasaki Teryx & KRX. The Mule is purpose built and was never made to competes with sportier models.
Your never to old, I just purchased a RZR Pro XP Ultimate, 180 HP with Dynamic suspension and I am 66 years old.
@@patd4u2 good for you
Get the Teryx 2…. Ample box space, better contoured bucket seats, better suspension with fox remote reservoir shocks and a few other features that make it stand out from a Mule…. Kawi certainly doesn’t have the lineup the others do but you’ll enjoy their 3 year warranty (best in biz) and legendary reliability and longevity!!!
No one drives one of those that slow.
Any of these or similar that is road legal? And seats 4???
Depends on your state. Every state has different laws about making a side by side street legal.
Speaking of the shifter being hard to engage, so it sounds like this normal? I recently picked up a 2021 turbo s (first machine) and I was really surprised at how hard it slams into gear and how bad it feels shifting between gears. I was concerned I picked one up with a bad transmission or something. So.....is the normal? Anyone with experience
"Andre's Pit" is a pointless test zone for these things. Outside of making it easy for your camera work, I don't get why you would take hard core off road capable machines into the CUV testing course. 😴 While I agree, the General would be the best choice for off ranch fun, obviously the Mule is ideal for your ranch. I would like to see a Kawasaki with the General specs. run your hard course.
Team tommy
The rzr is 74" wide
Probably 72'' width
@@fj400007 Nope, 74" width
Why no CanAm on this channel. These machines are all 2nd rate!
Lol why so you guys have helmets and gloves on?? Tommy do u ware all that in your jeep if u have the doors off?? And how the heck does Nathan get his helmet off??? I could see gear if you were actually going out all day and doing something actually hard. Lmfao come on guys. It was good for a laugh.
Guys do your homework next time the specs are wrong
Kawasaki is the best and have used them on job sites beside Polaris and they stronger and more dependable. And besides that I have a Polaris ranger and it is not half of the machine the kawasaki is. Poor video
No Nathan if you drove it like it was meant to be you would be drifting around the corners. Would do course faster then others. But your the expert that they chose to show there vehicle. Not there best thinking.
Your meant to draft it there not go slow 😂
Those four seat models are just too long. I would take a two seater all day.
Read up on what you are reviewing and learn how to drive them first before you give an opinion please!!!
Nathan, you don’t seem comfortable. And what the heck is in that cup?!?
Did not like the Kawasaki
Polaris are junk