Nash and Hall would have Joined DX and screwed Bischoff and Hogan. With their Guaranteed contracts and creative control, who would have been able to stop them? Bischoff was smart not to let them in. I wish he did tho lol
As I understand it, Bischoff wrote in his book that he wasn't aware they were there and if he'd have known DX was at the doors, he would've let them in. He said the same thing about if McMahon had actually shown up to answer his challenge. Bischoff's approach was basically "let them do whatever they want because I'd be printing money at that point."
I got my own 10 what if scenarios. 1: What if Magnum TA never had that career ending accident? 2: What if WCW never closed down? 3: What if Vince Russo stayed in WWE during the Monday Night War? 4: What if Steve Austin never got fired from WCW? 5: What if Goldberg never had that cut arm injury in 1999? 6: What if the Finger Poke of Doom never happened? 7: What if Lex Luger never left WWE for WCW? 8: What if Bret Hart never had that career ending concussion? 9: What if JCP was still in business? 10: What if Stone Cold never had that neck injury?
Josh Waldorf You're a bright man my boy! You're #10 "what if" was brilliant because Magnum T.A. was due to become NWA champion at Starrcade 1986 and this would have carried momentum in 1987, potentially warding off Wrestlemania 3. "What if" Steve Austin doesn't get fired should have been #1 because there's no Stone Cold to put WCW out of business?
"What if" Vince J. McMahon doesn't fire Hulk Hogan for appearing in Rocky 2? Would he have stayed in the WWF as a heel and not have gone to the AWA, where Verne Gagne doesn't develop his character into The Hulkamania persona that made him into an icon?
Shane will be owning WWE after Vince's departure not Triple H. Shane,Stephanie,and Linda have alot of stake in WWE. Triple H won't be owning anything. He would just be running it. McMahon family would own it. Don't be crazy why would Vince hand his company to an outsider?
Alpha The guy above you said, “there would be no NXT and Shane McMahon would be owning WWE after the departure of Vince McMahon” He made it sound like he think Triple H would be owning WWE after the departure of Vince.
Warren L Oh, I see. But I think it is possible if Vince opens his eyes and sees what Triple H is doing with NXT and what he did with the Cruiserweight classic, he would realise that Triple H understands what people want and doesn't just push big, sweaty men.
What if the Benoit tragedy hadn’t occurred should be on this list Had Benoit not died, then WWE likely would not have gone PG as quickly as it did. Concussions would not have been a focal point for WWE. Chairshots to the head likely would not have been banned. The locker room would have been different, as Chris was one of the leaders. So WWE may have been a completely different company today had that not happened. Benoit’s death was the most impactful death in WWE history, and helped kick start the concussion movement in all of sports
that's my point. Robert Yarber made the same mistake but vice versa. I mean, how in the hell people can't use the right form of "your" and "you're". That's ridiculous!
What if Scott Hall & Kevin Nash hadn't left the WWF? That means no MSG Curtain Call, Hunter Hearst Helmsley wins KOTR 1996, and therefore no Austin 3:16. IMO their departure was as critical to the success of the Attitude Era as Bret Hart's exit and the Montreal Screwjob. Ironic that WWF's biggest stars going to WCW was pivotal to their eventual success in the MNW.
I'd add that in the "what if Bret hadn't have jumped to WCW?" entry. If Bret had stayed with WWE throughout 98 - 99 and caught wind that Vince was planning the Owen/Jeff/Debra love triangle storyline as well as what they had planned for the Blue Blazer gimmick (repelling from the ceiling), I can imagine he'd have said something like, "F that, Owen and me are gonna be a tag team", saving everyone from the horror of that night.
Yeah, he's gone on record as saying that if he was in WWE at the time and there he would've told Owen not to go through with the entrance. I still feel really bad for Bret because aside from the expected mourning, it almost seemed like he partially blamed himself for what happened to Owen, even though we all know it wasn't his fault at all.
It's too broad a stroke to say so definitively (as Stamos did) that his mental state would have been just fine but I don't doubt that it played a significant if not major role in keeping his head ringing like a heyday Dr. Dre. This was supposed to be a serious comment but then I remembered that song. Man I miss when rap was good. I mean the lyrics were degrading misogynistic bile and just about the worst thing a young black kid could fill their mind with but at least they had a groove that made you want to nod your head like yes. Anyway, shame on Daniel Bryan for using that move even after the lesson he should have learned from Benoit, Dynamite and Harley Race. Or, y'know, the lesson he should have learned from Harley outright pleading with wrestlers not to use it!
What if Triple H and Stephanie never gotten married? I thought for sure that one was gonna be in the list, I mean think about it, if that doesn’t happen, then this also doesn’t happen: 1. Maybe Chyna and Hunter would still be together and she will be alive and healthy 2. The reign of terror doesn’t happen and RAW from 2002-2005 is actually watchable 3. Tripps maybe wins the world title, but not as much as he has and is not treated as the guy like they like to tell you 4. NXT, the Takeovers, Bálor, Owens, Asuka, Nakamura, Sami, Black etc... would probably never happen if Triple H wasn’t part of the family
He still had had a close relationship with Vince that started beforehand part of which probably stemming from his high interest in the backstage creation/business aspects of it. He was already positioned as one of the top stars being a multi-time WWF champion and fueded with Vince himself even marrying Stephanie in the storyline all before he ever started dating her. If they never married he would still have been treated as one of their top stars, especially after the departure of Rock and Austin, winning more world titles though not necessarily as many as he has. He would have still moved into backstage/business roles in the company as his in-ring career winded down and while he certainly wouldn't have had the power he has right now I can imagine him eventually still being in a prominent position coming up with ideas like the Performance Centre & NXT and just generally helping to get new talent.
TheOman1997 How he got into the backstage stuff is irrelevant (this is about marrying Stephanie), the fact is he was into it because A) he wanted to protect his spot (who wouldn't) and B) he was already interested in that backstage business aspect wanting to learn everything he could about the business. So how his relationship with Vince started is irrelevant (and it's not like he needed Shawn or anyone else to start up a relationship with him), it grew due to his willingness to be involved and learn about the backstage business process. And he was still with Chyna breaking up with her sometime 2000. Afterwards he started dating Stephanie in 2000 after they grew close throughout their storyline which didn't start until 29th of November 1999 which by that point he had already won the WWF title twice in August and September and would win it again on 3rd of January 2000 little over a month into the Steph storyline. Even if you accept Chyna's allegations of HHH cheating on her you're looking at very late 1999 at the earliest of being with Steph in "secret" and by the time he broke up with Chyna and officially started dating her he was already a 3-time champion, and he still had developed a working relationship with Vince even being invited to production meetings days after Russo left in early September 1999 when he offered his ear to bounce ideas off (as HHH says on Talk is Jericho also saying he & Shawn were previously invited by VInce into phone calls with Russo too where they threw around ideas, he also said he told Vince the other wrestlers getting their panties in a knot over it they can come join in too if they're willing to get up at 10 AM after driving 5 hours). So again even if he never married her he still A) would have had & continually developed his relationship with Vince, B) had & continually grew his interests/roles in the backstage/business parts and C) would have won more wold titles especially after The Rock and Austin left. Sure he wouldn't be in the same position he is now but you're fooling yourself if you believe he wouldn't have been able to make it to a high ranking position where he could still push ideas such as the Performance Centre and NXT.
if bret never left the wwf. the attitiude era would have still happened. in 1997, the wwf was on a collision course with attitude with or without bret. he would have probably been wwf commissioner or the in ring leader of the corporation vs austin.
Absolutely. And WCW's unworkable pay structure, lack of any creative vision beyond the NWO, backstage politics and inability to use sexual content and swearing with TBS's guidelines was always going to make them the eventual loser in the war.
I doubt the Attitude Era would have happened if Bret Hart had decided to stay. Hart was vocally against the new direction of the WWE, one that he felt was a raunchy product. If McMahon had decided to back Hart and let Michaels go (the two could not co-exist) then the WWE of the late 90’s and early 2000’s would actually be closer to what we are seeing in today’s product.
Sting Rey I agree with this statement but I'm not sure if vince would have turned into the McMahon character. Just imagining how different it could have been is boggling
While AOL/Time Warner is the ultimate reason for WCW's demise, the reason that decided to pull the plug on WCW had to do with the straight up torn artery level hemorrhage that was WCW's financial situation. They were, and I'm saying this without hyperbole, only in business because Ted Turner was a bigger money-mark than Dixie Carter ever was. There's a very good reason that WWE bought WCW for such the fire sale price that they paid. (Rumoured to be 5 million dollars, almost exclusively for the tape library.) Chris Jericho has stated in interviews that, when he found out the price WWE paid, he was upset that HE hadn't made a similar offer.
Caitiff they could have sold it for a much larger price, with Bischoff wanting to buy it out for upwards of 80 million dollars. The higher ups at TimeWarner (not ted) hated WCW and basically made it so that the books read that they were losing way way way way more money than they actually were. If they had used their wrestlers a bit better and Russo a little less they probably would have started to turn a profit. Well a about as much of a profit as TimeWarner allowed by tacking on debts and when they started to turn up make them do more with less. ie WCW Thunder and the nWo Sold out stuff
I could think of three other "What if" that could have been on here. What if Andre The Giant beat Hulk Hogan for the championship at Wrestlemania 3? What if Benoit hadn't "killed" his family? And finally, What if Owen hadn't fallen with the accident during WWF Over the Edge?
WhatCulture Wrestling ECW never had a Monday spot on TNN, ECW was aired on Fridays. TNN just used ECW as a experiment to see if wrestling would fly on their network, in fact after the first Raw on TNN aired on Monday September 25, 2000, the final episode of ECW on TNN was aired October 6, 2000 the next Friday after.
Erik Hænes That was very likely done intentionally. If you put up a series of nothing but facts, anyone can simply take your script, since facts can't be copywrited. Inaccuracies like this are sometimes thrown in, to prevent plagiarism.
Two things: First, if Hall & Nash hadn't left the WWF there would have been no curtain call, which means HHH wouldn't have been "punished" which means he would have won KOTR 96, which means no "Austin 3:16" Also, if Bret hadn't left I'm pretty sure the attitude era would have happened. WWF was already going that way and Bret was on board. Remember the obscenity laced "shoot" promo he did on Vince and the fans "If you don't like it tough shit!" Plus, Vince still would have been involved in some way. They were obviously building to something, perhaps babyface Vince vs Bret (which obviously would not have been great) but they were going somewhere. Bret & Vince kept having physical altercations. Most importantly though, if Bret's there Owen's not doing the Blue Blazer gimmick.
Sport Of Wrestling not to mention, he claims the latter match with Shawn & Razor was his idea. Would the Hardy Boys had ever been more than jobbers without that match? Had he not bought into the Attitude idea, would anyone have called Generation X “degenerates”?
Shawn Michaels was already heading down a bad road while he was with the WWE. Had he jumped to WCW, that would've been the end of him. Look at what it did to Bret Hart ? Came over from the WWE off of getting screwed by Vince McMahon at Survivor Series 1997, which they could've easily capitalized on as The Montreal Screwjob was the biggest wrestling storyline at that time but they did nothing with him, then Owen Hart dies in 1999, Hart gets kicked in the head by Goldberg and then his career was over. In hindsight, I'm glad HBK stuck with the WWE.
If Michaels would of jumped to WCW he’d immediately join the nWo with is Kliq buddies. He would of made a shit ton of money, and would of probably held the World Title looooooooong before The Elimination Chamber match
YoungD3mon314 PG Era was bound to happen no matter what, Linda McMahon was still going to run for Senate in 2009 so they needed to go PG so nothing can be used against her.
What if Sting had joined WWE while he was still on his prime? What if Vince Russo stood in WWE? What if Seth Rollins never hurt his knee? What if Hornswaggle never was in WWE and they hadn't a goto guy for ending all the storylines they ended by putting him onto them? And what if Mojo Rawley never split with Zack Ryder?
You could say "what if" about several wrestler deaths. Eddie, benoit, owen.......but, what about Pillman? That character was way before its time and never even came close to its potential. Imagine what he could've done during the following 4-5 years.
I'm gonna guess for the sake of argument.... We don't get Taker's iconic "goodbye" from last year. In terms of emotional WWE moments, it's up there with Eddie's title win and Flair's retirement. The whole point of the streak ending was to make a new star but what if part time Taker doesn't lose to that star and the fans turn! A heel Taker maybe? Lesnar wouldn't be in WWE for another two years after the fact saving us from his squashes against Goldberg and saving Orton's head from his elbows so we'd still be deep in PG nonsense.... And that's all I've got. Any other theories to keep it going?
The streak was always going to end, Taker forced Vince's hand. The better question is, what if someone deserving of the massive bump got to end the streak.
It should have been Punk. Punk could (but would never be allowed to be) be the face of the E, but he’s always been better as a heel. Let them have the Main Event at 29, let his original idea of the Shield happen, (hell keep Reigns if you want) but hold off their debut until WM29. They can help him defeat Taker, making Punk the biggest heel in Pro Wresting ever. Taker can retire early, or get his win back the next year, but he would have made 4 guys stars taking a loss like that. Punk could run The Shield like they’re basically Evolution for a year or 2 before one turns on him (Reigns) and than you have 4 guys who got the rub from Taker made into bigger stars in the process. And I fucking love Taker. I never want to see him lose, but him losing to Punk, giving Punk his Main Event he desperately wanted, and deserved, was actually Best for Business.
I don’t think ECW would still be alive today. I think around the time it went out of business Paul Heyman was exhausted and ready to give up. He only came back and did it the second time because WWE was handling all the business decisions and all he had to do was book matches.
What if ..... Kane never removed mask? Brock never left ? The American badass never was? Triple h was in the invasion angle ? Stone cold never took his ball home ? Owen Hart .....R.I.P Stone cold and the rock never talked in 3rd person? Kurt angles signed in 1996? John Cena stayed rapping? They never gave cm punk commentary time ? Aj lee doesn’t call out Stephanie McMahon &/or never leaves ? Stone cold doesn’t get fired from WCW? Booker T had won at WM19? Vince accepted Eric’s challenge ? Pleeeeeease do more of these!!!!!
What if Chris Benoit would've never murder/suicide? What if Daniel Bryan never "had to" retire? We could've had Benoit/Bryan matches What if Edge never had to retire?
I like to think that, at least for Hall, he would have had a better legacy past the year 2000. Nash fit well in WCW but I always felt Hall should have been Razor forever. Maybe he wouldn’t have lasted long (since he did get fired for his antics), but maybe he would have had a better support system in dealing with his personal troubles.
WCW was canned because of the AOL Time Warner merger because Billionaire Ted was no longer in control. Had almost nothing to do with any of the (many) creative faux pas, as the revisionist smark narrative claims.
Wrestling probably wouldn’t have existed on a big scale if WCW would have won the Monday Night Wars yeah it wasn’t drawing the same numbers but it was still doing well, the reason it ceased to exist was because of the merger of Time Warner and AOL in which AOL didn’t want to be associate with wrestling. If WWE didn’t win wrestling would be a total different landscape today
the problem there is NWO, Goldberg & Sting All had Time Warner Contracts and weren't showing up until those paychecks stopped (only DDP Famously opted out of guaranteed money to show up Early, just to be wasted in the horrible Taker stalker angle)
Yeh honestly without Shawn Michaels hurting his back, he would have died due to the life he was leading at that time and we still wouldn't have gotten a Eddie Guerrero vs Shawn Michaels match
My guess is if Hart never went to WCW then he might have been one of the many heels feuding with Stone Cold over the WWF Championship and he might have just been there and still winning titles but not really winning the WWF Title as much
I think him getting concussion and stroke was the worst though because if we are being honest the attitude era didn't really need him (even though I think it would have been cooler with him there) but a bit later when stone cold and rock left they needed someone huge and I reckon things would have been patched up sooner then they did and we may have had 2 to 3 more years of Bret in the wwe and maybe one of the newer stars at the time like Brock, Cena or Orton (< which would have fitted the "legend killer" character) could have beaten him to end his career.
Wonder what would happen with the Vince McMahon storyline when he supposley had died in that limousine when it blew up if it wasn't for the Benoit incident. Who knows if Vince McMahon would of showed up months or a couple of years later in which he managed to survive or stay dead and never be seen again afterwards.
You fail to mentioned how the Shield wouldn't have been more over or pushed if Ohno was there. Reigns was the powerhouse of the group, a needed addiction to the group that complemented the vastly different styles of Ambrose and Rollins
You discussed what might have happened if Eddie Guerrero hadn't died but didn't even _suggest_ the possibility that Chris Benoit wouldn't have gone off the deep end? At Eddie's memorial show, Benoit got to talk about what his best friend meant to him and said _"He was the one friend that I had that I could go to and pour my heart out to if I was going through something, a personal issue, a personal problem. He was the one guy that I could call and talk to, and know that he'd understand and... he would talk me out of it."_ Achingly sad words at the time, positively _haunting_ in hindsight. If Eddie had lived, not only would Chris, Nancy and Daniel Benoit most likely still be alive, Benoit would have continued to be one of WWE's biggest stars, and WWE would never have received the nasty shock that compelled it to go PG in the wake of the scrutiny the Benoit case brought on them. Somewhat perversely, that may not even have been a completely good thing, as it was Benoit's tragic case more than anything else that finally kicked the company in the ass and made them start to really look out for the health and welfare of their performers.
3mm he had buyers TBS/Turner would not give him the TV time because they, “didn’t like wrestling.” They said we’ll give you the library/footage rights and Eric’s buyers backed out as a result because it would have been impossible to get a return on their investment. He needed TV just like ECW did.
#1: What is Wrestlemania 1 wasn't a success? The entire company was gambled on this one event #2: What is the WWE Network failed? Another huge gamble that easily could have bankrupted the company #3: What if the Chris Benoit tragedy hadn't occurred? This is the permanent black eye on the company that nearly brought down the industry and made the WWE permanently switch to PG. Also, CTE likely wouldn't have been viewed as seriously in wrestling or pro sports as a whole leading to many more people suffering from it. #4: What if Vince lost the steroid trial? Company likely never would have went public, future could have been in doubt, external regulations would likely be implemented on wrestling #5: What if Stone Cold never broke his neck OR What if Stone Cold never returned after breaking his neck? WWE could have had their biggest star of all time for much longer or they might not have had him at all. It is unlikely the WWE could have survived the Monday Night Wars without Austin #6: What if Hulk Hogan never went to WCW? It is unlikely we would have seen the Attitude era if WWE wasn't desperate and playing from behind after WCW signed the biggest wrestling star in the world at the time. Hogan staying in WWE would have prevented the NWO from forming and thus crippling WCW in the monday night wars. #7: What if Eddie Guerrero didn't die? Potential storylines/booking aside, the WWE drug policy would likely never have been implemented meaning many more wrestler deaths could have happened and the locker room would likely still be "dirty". #8: What if Bret dropped the belt willingly and the Montreal Screwjob didn't happen? WWE couldn't have afforded Bret's contract so he needed to go to WCW. If he left on regular terms though (which he should have), the WWE wouldn't have come up with the Mr. Mcmahon character which was the #1 antagonist in WWE history and necessary for turning the tide against WCW. #9: What if The Rock never went to Hollywood? Ratings likely wouldn't have dropped as far as they did after the attitude era if one of the 2 biggest stars in the company hadn't left. Future stars like Cena, Brock, Orton, Punk, etc would have had a longer, harder road to the top if they reached it at all with The Rock still on top. #10: What if Brock Lesnar didn't leave the company to play football in 2004? Brock was already on top of the industry after only 2 years in WWE... the company missed out on many prime years at someone who could have potentially been one of the biggest stars of all time and him being there would have taken pressure off of the WWE to shove John Cena down fans' throats meaning Cena likely would have been better received during the span of his career
If we took your comment seriously, if Brett walked out during the show and showed up on nitro with the belt... It would seriously weaken the WWF image.
Okay this question made up for the lousy Dynamite one. What if Ken Shamrock never happened? Not sure I'd want to live in a world where Ken never happened.
I honestly don't think The Shield would have been as big as it was if Chris Hero was in the group instead of Reigns. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of Ohno but Reigns added something menacing to the Shield.
NFL films made an exact same video. As a HUGE fan of pro football and WWE, I loved the NFL's version of this video so much, I kept thinking to myself, what if a video like that was made for WWE? Now I know what it was like, thank you whatculture, I loved this video, my faith in you has risen only slightly but great job.
Matt Carter i came here in the comments to say just that. Bret had already went batshit insane and was dropping s-bombs while the ropes was still red white and blue
As a firm WCW fan i have a what if of my own.....What if WCW shut the NWO down before it got out of hand and put the heavyweight title on Benoit or Guerrero......or Jericho before they jumped ship???????
Alec Pridgen that's why it worked. You had the crazy hardcore mouthpiece in Dean, the athletic workhorse in Seth and the next big powerhouse in Reigns. Everyone brought something unique to the group. Ohno would have stolen some of Seth and Dean's thunder.
Pascal Aka he was over because the group not because himself. they made him look strong and Seth mic skill made up for roman's lack of charisma you could have put any big man there with a decent look and got same place
This is very interesting, you’ll probably have to do a second list about this topic. There’s so many things that have a huge butterfly effect to them. Example: no Montreal screwjob, no evil Vince, no feud between him and Austin. Or with the Hall and Nash walking out: Austin doesn’t win King of the Ring, we don’t get the 3:16 promo and he might’ve not been the guy like we all know him today. (Both had to do with stone cold but it wasn’t intentional)
I'll throw one more; if the invasion took place with the proper stars, the WWE would have a ton of WCW talent but would have to keep using them. It would have been great for people like Steiner, Hogan, Sting, Goldberg, etc. But I strongly doubt people like Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero, Mysterio and others would've even sniffed real air time. With many of them sticking around for even longer would you have had the tag team renaissance of Edge/Christian & the Hardys and The Dudleys? I think WWE would have been sensational for maybe 3-5 years but then would have run into all the talent problems as now you have all the big names going bye bye, without the young developed stars (Orton, Cena, Batista, Edge etc.) ready to take their place.
A very nice list, but Nash and Hall's departure should have been at least #3 for the chain reaction it set off. Without the nWo, the WWE probably wouldn't have been so faction-heavy during the Attitude Era, which was a major contributor in the ratings shift. (Austin didn't save the company on his own). We probably never would have seen DX, meaning HHH may never have become the top heel in the company, and without the Nation of Domination, The Rock may have remained boring and universally hated Rocky Miavia. Second, the group hug with Nash, Hall, HBK and HHH wouldn't have gone down, and without that moment, kayfabe might be a while lot stronger actors the world. Additionally, HHH would never have become the whipping boy for the incident. Which drives me to my final point, which does take some speculation. If Vince never punishes HHH for breaking kayfabe, and if DX never forms in response to the nWo's popularity, would HHH have had the opportunity to start dating and eventually marry the heir to the McMahon dynasty? It's quite possible that his penance and rising popularity as the leader of the top faction in the wrestling world allowed all that to happen, and without t his friends' departure from the company several years prior, HHH may never have become the powerful behind-the-scenes force that has shaped the world of professional wrestling for nearly two decades.
The Sheik was only the champ in order to transition it to Hogan instead of having Backlund do it, so this is idiotic...Eddie Guerrero's career had already peaked at the time of his death, otherwise they would have kept him as the champ longer.
Here are my top 10 what if. Thanks for the video. 10 - Owen and Eddie never pass away in 1999 and 2005 - Owen WWE Champion (not sure at what time, extremely difficult be main eventer in the Attitude Era, maybe a short reign between one or two main faces, but sure he has more Intercontinental and Tag team championships putting over new talent). Eddie wins WHC at S.Series 2005, wrestles HBK at WM 22 and damn, I think we didn't see the really very best of him, more years at his best level building a bigger legacy. 9 - Austin never injuries in 1997 and Rocky never conquers Hollywood in 2003 - More years at they real 100%, part of the ruthless agression and specially Austin has a lot of dream and good scored matches, Cena, Orton, JBL, Lesnar, Bastista, Goldberg. Both of them has more World Championships and they are a hard step for the next generation. 8 - Chris Benoit just passed away in 2007 - In my opinion the main fact is that Benoit was ill, the CTE was there for his aggresive wrestling style and more than 15 years without the correct medical treatments, enough reason by itself for take care more of wrestlers and starts the PG Era if we consider Benoit's death the main reason of it. If his death had been the same as Mike Webster's or Justin Strzelczyk's now he would be in the HOF. WWE has today a very huge responsabilty about prevent wrestler injuries (still cheering the decision to stop that Cesaro-Sheamus or Daniel Bryan's retirement). Sure all the fans miss him but WWE points to the CTE as guilty without erase Benoit legacy. 7 - Edge cashes MITB at WM 22 for a match against John Cena and reaches his first WM main event - Coherent decision for main event WM, but MITB is never seen as a chance for squash an exhausted wrestler, but as a chance for a normal but equal and honorable match. Edge is never that kind of clever and calculating villain who defines his personality so good. No Cena-HHH, no Edge-Mick and that unforgettable spear. 6 - Lesnar never leaves WWE in 2004 - Lesnar-Benoit at WM XX (still dreaming about it) as RR winner and as Smackdown superstar, for a rematch of last december SD when Lesnar taps out . Benoit never is drafted to RAW. No Lesnar-Goldberg, no HBK-HHH-Benoit, Eddie never WWE Champion at No Way Out, no Eddie-Angle for the title and never his WM moment with Benoit (unless he is drafted to RAW and wins WHC same night). With 26 years old Lesnar easily stays around 10 years at his 100%. "John Cena is the guy who carry my bags into the building" becomes a HUGE every day life reality, but Cena is accepted by the fans because of not having endless reigns, never "Cena sucks". No one of the thrid generation superstar has one third of their championships. 5 - Eric Bischoff puts over the new generation and ends nWo storyline in 1998 - Sting raises as an indestructible character who represents the end of nWo, only Goldberg can beat him by the middle of the year, the main wrestler of the new generation, and the entire nWo is finally defeated in a War Games when team face has every wrestler of the future. By 1999 WCW has Goldberg, Y2J, Benoit, Eddie, Booker T, DDP and Rey Mysterio in upper-midcarder/main eventer status making great rivalries and ratings closer to WWE. Good 1999, never mexican wrestlers unmasked, bad ratings, Vince Russo in WCW, fingerpoke of Doom or good talent leaving the company. Maybe WCW creates a women division, changes to a technical wrestling proposal and includes new kind of matches. Hogan, Nash and Hall leave WCW if they can't contribute something good. 4 - Never Montreal Screwjob in 1997 - I agree; is evident that Austin-McMahon rivalry (and many others) would not have been the same without Mr.McMahon character, one of the best heels of all time; the crowd never hates him so much if the screwjob never exists. Austin Era does not have the same power without him and ratings over WCW are not so big. 3 - Triple H is loyal to Chyna in 2000 - Chyna is the greatest female wrestler ever, nobody in the whole women roster is able to face her all along the Ruthless Agression Era. Trish Stratus never is 7 time women champion. Triple H never is Vince's son in law, RAW brand is not his playground in 2002-2004, SummerSlam EC 2003 is not a big joke and Goldberg has a long reign. NXT does not have the popularity that has today, nothing about four horsewomen, 5 stars matches or every NXT main eventer that we have seen before go to WWE. Bruno Sammartino and more legends does not come back to WWE. 2 - Jamie Kellner does not cancel WCW in 2001 - WCW has the main wrestlers of ECW, some years after has the main wrestlers of TNA, that never is founded by Jeff Jarrett. ROH is born in 2002 but their best wrestlers goes to WCW that pay better. WWE never purchases WCW, never has WCW belts and never separates in RAW and Smackdown rosters. MNW continues, youtube is born and WCW stars to put an eye on indie's wrestlers when RVD, Sabu, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, CM Punk and Bobby Roode are already leading the company with the new generation of knockouts; has very good matches and finally invest in good creatives for put the company at the same level as WWE today. 1 - Verne Gagne gives Hogan the WHC over Nick Bockwinkel in 1983 - Hulkamania runs wild in AWA and the company builds his future around him, Vince McMahon Jr becomes chairman same year and never has the greatest baby face ever, the main wrestler of the Golden Era, the expansion across USA and WWE fails the international market. No Iron Sheik-Hogan. Do we have Wrestlemania in 1985? Does the Golden Era exist? Is WWE known in the whole world? Does Andre the Giant lead WWE by the mid 80's starting Andremania? Does exists drug abuses and premature deaths in wrestling? Are current wrestling fans 10% of real life? Only a mind like Lex Luger's has the answer. "I DONT KNOOOOW!!!"
What if during the DX invasion in 1998, Bischoff opened the doors and let DX onto Monday Nitro?
Neigh Slayer that would've been INSANE
DX vs nWo live
The Kliq wins
Nash and Hall would have Joined DX and screwed Bischoff and Hogan.
With their Guaranteed contracts and creative control, who would have been able to stop them?
Bischoff was smart not to let them in.
I wish he did tho lol
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Yeah, I could totally see them just have Meng & Barbarian answer the door. "Yeah? Can we do something for ya?"
b
or they'll probably try and eat them LOL
As I understand it, Bischoff wrote in his book that he wasn't aware they were there and if he'd have known DX was at the doors, he would've let them in. He said the same thing about if McMahon had actually shown up to answer his challenge. Bischoff's approach was basically "let them do whatever they want because I'd be printing money at that point."
I got my own 10 what if scenarios.
1: What if Magnum TA never had that career ending accident?
2: What if WCW never closed down?
3: What if Vince Russo stayed in WWE during the Monday Night War?
4: What if Steve Austin never got fired from WCW?
5: What if Goldberg never had that cut arm injury in 1999?
6: What if the Finger Poke of Doom never happened?
7: What if Lex Luger never left WWE for WCW?
8: What if Bret Hart never had that career ending concussion?
9: What if JCP was still in business?
10: What if Stone Cold never had that neck injury?
Josh Waldorf You're a bright man my boy! You're #10 "what if" was brilliant because Magnum T.A. was due to become NWA champion at Starrcade 1986 and this would have carried momentum in 1987, potentially warding off Wrestlemania 3.
"What if" Steve Austin doesn't get fired should have been #1 because there's no Stone Cold to put WCW out of business?
"What if" Vince J. McMahon doesn't fire Hulk Hogan for appearing in Rocky 2? Would he have stayed in the WWF as a heel and not have gone to the AWA, where Verne Gagne doesn't develop his character into The Hulkamania persona that made him into an icon?
I made an error: Hogan appeared in Rocky 3 with Mr. T, not Rocky 2.
"What if" WCCW went National first?
I can help you on no. 9. JC Penny is getting rid of the appliances and furniture. Maybe the WWE will step in and buy up the steel chairs.
What If Triple H stayed with Chyna and never dated Stephanie?
Also, Chyna would probably still be here.
Shane will be owning WWE after Vince's departure not Triple H. Shane,Stephanie,and Linda have alot of stake in WWE. Triple H won't be owning anything. He would just be running it. McMahon family would own it. Don't be crazy why would Vince hand his company to an outsider?
Warren L Who said that he'll do that?
Alpha The guy above you said, “there would be no NXT and Shane McMahon would be owning WWE after the departure of Vince McMahon”
He made it sound like he think Triple H would be owning WWE after the departure of Vince.
Warren L Oh, I see. But I think it is possible if Vince opens his eyes and sees what Triple H is doing with NXT and what he did with the Cruiserweight classic, he would realise that Triple H understands what people want and doesn't just push big, sweaty men.
What if the Benoit tragedy hadn’t occurred should be on this list
Had Benoit not died, then WWE likely would not have gone PG as quickly as it did. Concussions would not have been a focal point for WWE. Chairshots to the head likely would not have been banned. The locker room would have been different, as Chris was one of the leaders. So WWE may have been a completely different company today had that not happened.
Benoit’s death was the most impactful death in WWE history, and helped kick start the concussion movement in all of sports
thesweetgamer12 sweet re-read my comment and you’ll answer your own question
xxmoran92 Yeah it's a possibility, Benoit and Guerrero's deaths caused huge changes in the company
xxmoran92 WWE could have use more violence and Cena should never be family friendly
It's weird how one murder change the wwe for the better forever. I'm happy less chair shots to the head are happening
focodoco Yeah true
WhatCulture Job interview:
Interviewer: Why do you think your perfect for the job?
Applicant: My names Adam.
Interviewer: You're hired!
YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR
At this point, if you’re name is Adam you should NOT be hired just because of it! Lol
+Johnny Ridge ...no...it's "you're"
that's my point. Robert Yarber made the same mistake but vice versa. I mean, how in the hell people can't use the right form of "your" and "you're". That's ridiculous!
Yeah so many adams
What if sting had a match with taker
Sion T iconic
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It would be tied with The Rock/Hogan match at WM 18 for the most hyped match ever
Sting actually did have a match with Taker in WCW
We wouldn’t have had Taker vs. Michael’s at Mania 25 most Likely
What if Scott Hall & Kevin Nash hadn't left the WWF? That means no MSG Curtain Call, Hunter Hearst Helmsley wins KOTR 1996, and therefore no Austin 3:16. IMO their departure was as critical to the success of the Attitude Era as Bret Hart's exit and the Montreal Screwjob. Ironic that WWF's biggest stars going to WCW was pivotal to their eventual success in the MNW.
What if...The good adams didn't leave Whatculture.
Whatculture would have one more creepy pervert than they do now.
@Scruff Looking Nerve Hurter there better than whatculture
@@Lolialbertoo9 no, not really
@@_.El._ the what happened to that wrestler song
What if Owen hadn't fallen
Sion T he could have the nickname The Game but less brutal then Triple H
Could've been the WWF/E Champion by WM18/19 at the latest.
I'd add that in the "what if Bret hadn't have jumped to WCW?" entry.
If Bret had stayed with WWE throughout 98 - 99 and caught wind that Vince was planning the Owen/Jeff/Debra love triangle storyline as well as what they had planned for the Blue Blazer gimmick (repelling from the ceiling), I can imagine he'd have said something like, "F that, Owen and me are gonna be a tag team", saving everyone from the horror of that night.
Yeah, he's gone on record as saying that if he was in WWE at the time and there he would've told Owen not to go through with the entrance. I still feel really bad for Bret because aside from the expected mourning, it almost seemed like he partially blamed himself for what happened to Owen, even though we all know it wasn't his fault at all.
Owen Hart was apparently not looking to have a much longer career in wrestling, so if that's true, not much of a thing here.
WHAT IF JBL NEVER BEAT UP THE BLUE MEANIE???
DAcheekO the real question we all want answered
then stevie richards wouldnt have given him that skull crackin receipt lol
DAcheekO FOR REALSIES
The most deserved chair shot to the head of all time.
Waith, JBL did what?
What if WWE bought UFC a decade ago?
(My two cents: they would've messed it up. They're good at messing stuff up)
What if Chyna won the world heavyweight championship?
Katie Burak
We'd have the random woman World champion every few years.
Beth Phoenix and Awesome Kong come to mind.
What if Cole kept his blond hair lights
Sion T Stop spamming
😂😂
Finally someone asking the real questions
^^^^ look at those two cry babies up there
Eddie Guerrero looked cool in them
What if cm punk never left
What if Benoit hadn't used the headbutt?
He'd wouldn't have a bad mental state and probably retired and inducted into the Hall of Fame by now.
The Nostalgic Stino Stamos i can only dream
Brian Scrivner lmao!
It's too broad a stroke to say so definitively (as Stamos did) that his mental state would have been just fine but I don't doubt that it played a significant if not major role in keeping his head ringing like a heyday Dr. Dre.
This was supposed to be a serious comment but then I remembered that song. Man I miss when rap was good. I mean the lyrics were degrading misogynistic bile and just about the worst thing a young black kid could fill their mind with but at least they had a groove that made you want to nod your head like yes.
Anyway, shame on Daniel Bryan for using that move even after the lesson he should have learned from Benoit, Dynamite and Harley Race. Or, y'know, the lesson he should have learned from Harley outright pleading with wrestlers not to use it!
gochisox1124 obviously well it didn't exactly help him, did it?
What if Triple H and Stephanie never gotten married?
I thought for sure that one was gonna be in the list, I mean think about it, if that doesn’t happen, then this also doesn’t happen:
1. Maybe Chyna and Hunter would still be together and she will be alive and healthy
2. The reign of terror doesn’t happen and RAW from 2002-2005 is actually watchable
3. Tripps maybe wins the world title, but not as much as he has and is not treated as the guy like they like to tell you
4. NXT, the Takeovers, Bálor, Owens, Asuka, Nakamura, Sami, Black etc... would probably never happen if Triple H wasn’t part of the family
TheOman1997 without reign of terror there is no evolution
EVAGEASS R maybe...
He still had had a close relationship with Vince that started beforehand part of which probably stemming from his high interest in the backstage creation/business aspects of it. He was already positioned as one of the top stars being a multi-time WWF champion and fueded with Vince himself even marrying Stephanie in the storyline all before he ever started dating her. If they never married he would still have been treated as one of their top stars, especially after the departure of Rock and Austin, winning more world titles though not necessarily as many as he has. He would have still moved into backstage/business roles in the company as his in-ring career winded down and while he certainly wouldn't have had the power he has right now I can imagine him eventually still being in a prominent position coming up with ideas like the Performance Centre & NXT and just generally helping to get new talent.
Sevicify he was in the backstage stuff because of Shawn, and when he started dating Steph it was 1999... 2000 he won the WWF title.
TheOman1997 How he got into the backstage stuff is irrelevant (this is about marrying Stephanie), the fact is he was into it because A) he wanted to protect his spot (who wouldn't) and B) he was already interested in that backstage business aspect wanting to learn everything he could about the business. So how his relationship with Vince started is irrelevant (and it's not like he needed Shawn or anyone else to start up a relationship with him), it grew due to his willingness to be involved and learn about the backstage business process.
And he was still with Chyna breaking up with her sometime 2000. Afterwards he started dating Stephanie in 2000 after they grew close throughout their storyline which didn't start until 29th of November 1999 which by that point he had already won the WWF title twice in August and September and would win it again on 3rd of January 2000 little over a month into the Steph storyline. Even if you accept Chyna's allegations of HHH cheating on her you're looking at very late 1999 at the earliest of being with Steph in "secret" and by the time he broke up with Chyna and officially started dating her he was already a 3-time champion, and he still had developed a working relationship with Vince even being invited to production meetings days after Russo left in early September 1999 when he offered his ear to bounce ideas off (as HHH says on Talk is Jericho also saying he & Shawn were previously invited by VInce into phone calls with Russo too where they threw around ideas, he also said he told Vince the other wrestlers getting their panties in a knot over it they can come join in too if they're willing to get up at 10 AM after driving 5 hours).
So again even if he never married her he still A) would have had & continually developed his relationship with Vince, B) had & continually grew his interests/roles in the backstage/business parts and C) would have won more wold titles especially after The Rock and Austin left. Sure he wouldn't be in the same position he is now but you're fooling yourself if you believe he wouldn't have been able to make it to a high ranking position where he could still push ideas such as the Performance Centre and NXT.
What if the curtain call didn’t happen? Would Steve Austin ever become the guy in the WWF?
Frank Rocchio not sure
Frank Rocchio 😂
Austin was destined to be a Stone Cold.
Frank Rocchio
Suppose his push continued, but in doing so he got injured....... History would have reasserted itself
Arthur Dayne He had a Football Injury or I think he could still Wrestle
if bret never left the wwf. the attitiude era would have still happened. in 1997, the wwf was on a collision course with attitude with or without bret. he would have probably been wwf commissioner or the in ring leader of the corporation vs austin.
Absolutely. And WCW's unworkable pay structure, lack of any creative vision beyond the NWO, backstage politics and inability to use sexual content and swearing with TBS's guidelines was always going to make them the eventual loser in the war.
I doubt the Attitude Era would have happened if Bret Hart had decided to stay. Hart was vocally against the new direction of the WWE, one that he felt was a raunchy product.
If McMahon had decided to back Hart and let Michaels go (the two could not co-exist) then the WWE of the late 90’s and early 2000’s would actually be closer to what we are seeing in today’s product.
and maybe, just maybe his brother's death would have prevented in the first place
Also if Bret never left WWF now WWE Owen Hart would be alive because Bret would’ve stopped him from doing the stunt that killed him
Sting Rey I agree with this statement but I'm not sure if vince would have turned into the McMahon character. Just imagining how different it could have been is boggling
What If CM Punk hadn’t made that Pipebomb that got him the 434 day WWE Title reign
What if chris benoit didn't pass away?
Would there be a pg era?
LuchaKing Who knows
yes. It was liinda's run in senate that caused the pg era, not benoits death, however, concussions probably wouldn't have been taken as seriously.
WWE didn't beat WCW, AOL beat WCW
Finally, someone who actually understands why WCW was shut down.
can you explain in detail plz
While AOL/Time Warner is the ultimate reason for WCW's demise, the reason that decided to pull the plug on WCW had to do with the straight up torn artery level hemorrhage that was WCW's financial situation.
They were, and I'm saying this without hyperbole, only in business because Ted Turner was a bigger money-mark than Dixie Carter ever was.
There's a very good reason that WWE bought WCW for such the fire sale price that they paid.
(Rumoured to be 5 million dollars, almost exclusively for the tape library.)
Chris Jericho has stated in interviews that, when he found out the price WWE paid, he was upset that HE hadn't made a similar offer.
Caitiff actually it was rumored to be 2 million to 4 highest from sources in the Wwe even Bruce said less than 5 lol
Caitiff they could have sold it for a much larger price, with Bischoff wanting to buy it out for upwards of 80 million dollars. The higher ups at TimeWarner (not ted) hated WCW and basically made it so that the books read that they were losing way way way way more money than they actually were. If they had used their wrestlers a bit better and Russo a little less they probably would have started to turn a profit. Well a about as much of a profit as TimeWarner allowed by tacking on debts and when they started to turn up make them do more with less. ie WCW Thunder and the nWo Sold out stuff
What if james ellsworth won the wwe title imagine the 5 star matches he would have
5 star? He would break Meltzer rating and be giving 7 1/2 star
Frosty Vamp damn what was i thinking you’re 100% correct
Tinuskiller no it my mistake It would't be 7 1/2 It be ♾/♾
Frosty Vamp as many stars as there is in space is enough for those matches he would have
these comments are life!!!!!! Too Sweet!
What if the graphics department knew how to spell "Alliance"?
What if Stone Cold never competed again following his 1997 neck injury?
Bryan Dwyer what if Stone cold never broke his neck at all?
Bryan Dwyer WCW may have won
Ethan Skys I think you're right! Who would the Rock have feuded with? It's interesting to think about
Bryan Dwyer I think the rock would have only had triple H
Maybe guys like test or Billy Gunn would have gotten bigger pushes too
That would've detroyed the career of the rock,Chris Jericho,triple h,Kurt angle and countless others
I could think of three other "What if" that could have been on here. What if Andre The Giant beat Hulk Hogan for the championship at Wrestlemania 3? What if Benoit hadn't "killed" his family? And finally, What if Owen hadn't fallen with the accident during WWF Over the Edge?
WhatCulture Wrestling
ECW never had a Monday spot on TNN, ECW was aired on Fridays. TNN just used ECW as a experiment to see if wrestling would fly on their network, in fact after the first Raw on TNN aired on Monday September 25, 2000, the final episode of ECW on TNN was aired October 6, 2000 the next Friday after.
Erik Hænes THANK YOU
Erik Hænes That was very likely done intentionally. If you put up a series of nothing but facts, anyone can simply take your script, since facts can't be copywrited. Inaccuracies like this are sometimes thrown in, to prevent plagiarism.
What if Brock LESNAR landed the shooting star press
What if Kurt Angle landed a single moonsault
What if Adam didn't talk to underage girls?
Logamus Prime He would still have a job.
they were underage?
Just trolling.
I'd be a lot happier talking about what made me a wrestling fan
Technically nothing would happen here since he left with some others to make Cultaholics.
Two things:
First, if Hall & Nash hadn't left the WWF there would have been no curtain call, which means HHH wouldn't have been "punished" which means he would have won KOTR 96, which means no "Austin 3:16"
Also, if Bret hadn't left I'm pretty sure the attitude era would have happened. WWF was already going that way and Bret was on board. Remember the obscenity laced "shoot" promo he did on Vince and the fans "If you don't like it tough shit!"
Plus, Vince still would have been involved in some way. They were obviously building to something, perhaps babyface Vince vs Bret (which obviously would not have been great) but they were going somewhere. Bret & Vince kept having physical altercations.
Most importantly though, if Bret's there Owen's not doing the Blue Blazer gimmick.
Punished for what? They wouldn't have done the curtain call if Hall & Nash didn't leave
No curtain call? Jim Cornette would have lower blood pressure ;).
Sport Of Wrestling not to mention, he claims the latter match with Shawn & Razor was his idea. Would the Hardy Boys had ever been more than jobbers without that match?
Had he not bought into the Attitude idea, would anyone have called Generation X “degenerates”?
What if Brock lesnar was pregnant.
Idk why I laughed so fucking hard at this...
What kind of sex education were you given? 😅
Levi Ackerman, I could ask the same. I had to wait 3 minutes before I can comment properly. LOL
ROBOBRIGGS S I AM
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
Shawn Michaels was already heading down a bad road while he was with the WWE. Had he jumped to WCW, that would've been the end of him. Look at what it did to Bret Hart ? Came over from the WWE off of getting screwed by Vince McMahon at Survivor Series 1997, which they could've easily capitalized on as The Montreal Screwjob was the biggest wrestling storyline at that time but they did nothing with him, then Owen Hart dies in 1999, Hart gets kicked in the head by Goldberg and then his career was over. In hindsight, I'm glad HBK stuck with the WWE.
jerel but this is not even on the list!
I know but Shawn's picture is on the video thumbnail before you click on it.
Shawn would have done well. Because unlike Bret Hart, he was part of the clique. And therefore Nash and Hall would have made sure he had a good spot
Shawn would have been mildly okay. Nash & Hall would have looked out for him.
If Michaels would of jumped to WCW he’d immediately join the nWo with is Kliq buddies. He would of made a shit ton of money, and would of probably held the World Title looooooooong before The Elimination Chamber match
Shawn Michaels vs The Rock has got to be the biggest dream match ever. But i second the thought of HBK vs Eddie Guerrero as well!
As well as Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle
HBK vs Ricky Steamboat and HBK vs Savage
What if brock never left in 2004
ahceda09
Its rumored that Wwe wanted Triple H vs Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania 21 for the Wwe championship but it didn't happen as Lesnar left in 2004.
ahceda09 he'd be the face of the company, John Cena would be in his shadow, and Orton, idk about Orton.
YoungD3mon314 PG Era was bound to happen no matter what, Linda McMahon was still going to run for Senate in 2009 so they needed to go PG so nothing can be used against her.
What if Sting had joined WWE while he was still on his prime? What if Vince Russo stood in WWE? What if Seth Rollins never hurt his knee? What if Hornswaggle never was in WWE and they hadn't a goto guy for ending all the storylines they ended by putting him onto them? And what if Mojo Rawley never split with Zack Ryder?
Dead Phoenix if Sting went, everybody would have....
You could say "what if" about several wrestler deaths. Eddie, benoit, owen.......but, what about Pillman? That character was way before its time and never even came close to its potential. Imagine what he could've done during the following 4-5 years.
What If the streak wasn't broken?
I'm gonna guess for the sake of argument.... We don't get Taker's iconic "goodbye" from last year. In terms of emotional WWE moments, it's up there with Eddie's title win and Flair's retirement.
The whole point of the streak ending was to make a new star but what if part time Taker doesn't lose to that star and the fans turn! A heel Taker maybe?
Lesnar wouldn't be in WWE for another two years after the fact saving us from his squashes against Goldberg and saving Orton's head from his elbows so we'd still be deep in PG nonsense....
And that's all I've got. Any other theories to keep it going?
Ral The Merman what if Brock Lesner hadnt broken it? What if it was an up-in-coming superstar who got the shock victory?
And Taker's iconic "goodbye"...won't be so iconic if he wrestles again. It'd be pretty much pointless in retrospect.
The streak was always going to end, Taker forced Vince's hand. The better question is, what if someone deserving of the massive bump got to end the streak.
It should have been Punk.
Punk could (but would never be allowed to be) be the face of the E, but he’s always been better as a heel.
Let them have the Main Event at 29, let his original idea of the Shield happen, (hell keep Reigns if you want) but hold off their debut until WM29.
They can help him defeat Taker, making Punk the biggest heel in Pro Wresting ever.
Taker can retire early, or get his win back the next year, but he would have made 4 guys stars taking a loss like that.
Punk could run The Shield like they’re basically Evolution for a year or 2 before one turns on him (Reigns) and than you have 4 guys who got the rub from Taker made into bigger stars in the process.
And I fucking love Taker. I never want to see him lose, but him losing to Punk, giving Punk his Main Event he desperately wanted, and deserved, was actually Best for Business.
What if Tommy Dreamer never muttered “please sir, can I have another?”?
I agree that its a good thing Shawn got hurt he needed a break. Everything happens for a reason he finally got his life together in that time period.
What if WCW was still around?
I don’t think ECW would still be alive today. I think around the time it went out of business Paul Heyman was exhausted and ready to give up. He only came back and did it the second time because WWE was handling all the business decisions and all he had to do was book matches.
Ecw would have still gone out of business in another year or two knowing there past history with money problem
Totally agreed
Frosty Vamp They kinda didnt went all into detail with the ECW entry. If it never went out of business, We probably wouldn't have had ROH.
Harold Hernandez true roh was form after ashes of ecw
Harold - interestingly enough Heyman said ECW would have become less hardcore. And more like ROH was. Had ECW stayed in business.
Brian Scrivner that does make sense since there hardcore nature is one reason they went under
3:56 You spelt alliance incorrectly.
What if Nails beat boss man
Sion T He still would've been fired for what he did to Vince
Well then bossman woulda got raped
What if nobody barged into Vince's office? Nailz would meet Old Sparky and there'd be new ownership.
What if .....
Kane never removed mask?
Brock never left ?
The American badass never was?
Triple h was in the invasion angle ?
Stone cold never took his ball home ?
Owen Hart .....R.I.P
Stone cold and the rock never talked in 3rd person?
Kurt angles signed in 1996?
John Cena stayed rapping?
They never gave cm punk commentary time ?
Aj lee doesn’t call out Stephanie McMahon &/or never leaves ?
Stone cold doesn’t get fired from WCW?
Booker T had won at WM19?
Vince accepted Eric’s challenge ?
Pleeeeeease do more of these!!!!!
What if Shawn Michaels jobbed to Bret Hart at Wrestlemania 13?
New Drinking Game: Drink 1 shot of Tequila everytime Adam says "Wrestling History"
What if NWO and DX were switched and NWO were in wwe and DX were in WCW
vince would never had nwo ,dx would turn out to be nwo with everyone joining in wcw
What if WWF let shawn walk in 1997, and he went to WCW and joined the NWO...
No Way.
What if sunny actually did playboy back then?
What if Chris Benoit would've never murder/suicide?
What if Daniel Bryan never "had to" retire?
We could've had Benoit/Bryan matches
What if Edge never had to retire?
top 10 masked luchadores in history? u can guess why by my avatar
Daniel Bridger El Cero medo Pentagon jr.
CERO MIEDO! no.1 would probably be el santo though
Daniel Bridger Octagon
Pfffff. No.1, Blue Blazer. Fight me.
I like to think that, at least for Hall, he would have had a better legacy past the year 2000. Nash fit well in WCW but I always felt Hall should have been Razor forever. Maybe he wouldn’t have lasted long (since he did get fired for his antics), but maybe he would have had a better support system in dealing with his personal troubles.
BrokenCoffeePot no he should have stayed as Magnum Scott Hall from the AWA days
Geoffrey Holland I’m not gay but he was a really good looking man as Magnum Scott Hall 👍🏻 lol
He Could've Asked Undertaker For Help Since Taker Battled Addiction
what if the fingerpoke of doom didnt happen?
Maybe we still have wcw?
ivan pabon There's still David Arquette winning the WCW title. So idk
WCW was canned because of the AOL Time Warner merger because Billionaire Ted was no longer in control. Had almost nothing to do with any of the (many) creative faux pas, as the revisionist smark narrative claims.
Yet WWE still airs on USA despite abysmal ratings.
Totoy Bibo W H O K N O W S ?
Wrestling probably wouldn’t have existed on a big scale if WCW would have won the Monday Night Wars yeah it wasn’t drawing the same numbers but it was still doing well, the reason it ceased to exist was because of the merger of Time Warner and AOL in which AOL didn’t want to be associate with wrestling. If WWE didn’t win wrestling would be a total different landscape today
The Alliance should have been NWO, Sting, Goldberg, Booker & Jericho leading the way.
Rick Flair would've been great during the invasion
the problem there is NWO, Goldberg & Sting All had Time Warner Contracts and weren't showing up until those paychecks stopped (only DDP Famously opted out of guaranteed money to show up Early, just to be wasted in the horrible Taker stalker angle)
What if Big Bossman didn’t steal Big Show’s dad’s casket?
Yeh honestly without Shawn Michaels hurting his back, he would have died due to the life he was leading at that time and we still wouldn't have gotten a Eddie Guerrero vs Shawn Michaels match
My guess is if Hart never went to WCW then he might have been one of the many heels feuding with Stone Cold over the WWF Championship and he might have just been there and still winning titles but not really winning the WWF Title as much
MegaBRD The Movie Nerd easily have outstanding matches against Any opponent
alex kanyima Yeah
I think him getting concussion and stroke was the worst though because if we are being honest the attitude era didn't really need him (even though I think it would have been cooler with him there) but a bit later when stone cold and rock left they needed someone huge and I reckon things would have been patched up sooner then they did and we may have had 2 to 3 more years of Bret in the wwe and maybe one of the newer stars at the time like Brock, Cena or Orton (< which would have fitted the "legend killer" character) could have beaten him to end his career.
i think he would have been mr.macmahon's hand pick champion in the corporation vs austin.
Sting Rey That's exactly what I thought, for all we know it could've been Austin vs. Hart at Summerlam 98 instead of Austin vs. Taker
Wonder what would happen with the Vince McMahon storyline when he supposley had died in that limousine when it blew up if it wasn't for the Benoit incident. Who knows if Vince McMahon would of showed up months or a couple of years later in which he managed to survive or stay dead and never be seen again afterwards.
Actually you have a good point
This would have tied in with the Ken Kennedy stuff
You fail to mentioned how the Shield wouldn't have been more over or pushed if Ohno was there. Reigns was the powerhouse of the group, a needed addiction to the group that complemented the vastly different styles of Ambrose and Rollins
What if AJ Styles joined WWE before the 2010s?
WWE, Madden, and NBA 2K Channel that would have been ... Phenomenal
What if the pie wasn't thrown at Kevin Owens' face?!?!?!
You discussed what might have happened if Eddie Guerrero hadn't died but didn't even _suggest_ the possibility that Chris Benoit wouldn't have gone off the deep end? At Eddie's memorial show, Benoit got to talk about what his best friend meant to him and said _"He was the one friend that I had that I could go to and pour my heart out to if I was going through something, a personal issue, a personal problem. He was the one guy that I could call and talk to, and know that he'd understand and... he would talk me out of it."_ Achingly sad words at the time, positively _haunting_ in hindsight. If Eddie had lived, not only would Chris, Nancy and Daniel Benoit most likely still be alive, Benoit would have continued to be one of WWE's biggest stars, and WWE would never have received the nasty shock that compelled it to go PG in the wake of the scrutiny the Benoit case brought on them. Somewhat perversely, that may not even have been a completely good thing, as it was Benoit's tragic case more than anything else that finally kicked the company in the ass and made them start to really look out for the health and welfare of their performers.
So early it wasn't even in my subscription feed yet
What If Eric Bischoff found a buyer for WCW.
3mm he had buyers TBS/Turner would not give him the TV time because they, “didn’t like wrestling.” They said we’ll give you the library/footage rights and Eric’s buyers backed out as a result because it would have been impossible to get a return on their investment. He needed TV just like ECW did.
What if John Cena was fired back in 2002.
Almost
#1: What is Wrestlemania 1 wasn't a success?
The entire company was gambled on this one event
#2: What is the WWE Network failed?
Another huge gamble that easily could have bankrupted the company
#3: What if the Chris Benoit tragedy hadn't occurred?
This is the permanent black eye on the company that nearly brought down the industry and made the WWE permanently switch to PG. Also, CTE likely wouldn't have been viewed as seriously in wrestling or pro sports as a whole leading to many more people suffering from it.
#4: What if Vince lost the steroid trial?
Company likely never would have went public, future could have been in doubt, external regulations would likely be implemented on wrestling
#5: What if Stone Cold never broke his neck OR What if Stone Cold never returned after breaking his neck?
WWE could have had their biggest star of all time for much longer or they might not have had him at all. It is unlikely the WWE could have survived the Monday Night Wars without Austin
#6: What if Hulk Hogan never went to WCW?
It is unlikely we would have seen the Attitude era if WWE wasn't desperate and playing from behind after WCW signed the biggest wrestling star in the world at the time. Hogan staying in WWE would have prevented the NWO from forming and thus crippling WCW in the monday night wars.
#7: What if Eddie Guerrero didn't die?
Potential storylines/booking aside, the WWE drug policy would likely never have been implemented meaning many more wrestler deaths could have happened and the locker room would likely still be "dirty".
#8: What if Bret dropped the belt willingly and the Montreal Screwjob didn't happen?
WWE couldn't have afforded Bret's contract so he needed to go to WCW. If he left on regular terms though (which he should have), the WWE wouldn't have come up with the Mr. Mcmahon character which was the #1 antagonist in WWE history and necessary for turning the tide against WCW.
#9: What if The Rock never went to Hollywood?
Ratings likely wouldn't have dropped as far as they did after the attitude era if one of the 2 biggest stars in the company hadn't left. Future stars like Cena, Brock, Orton, Punk, etc would have had a longer, harder road to the top if they reached it at all with The Rock still on top.
#10: What if Brock Lesnar didn't leave the company to play football in 2004?
Brock was already on top of the industry after only 2 years in WWE... the company missed out on many prime years at someone who could have potentially been one of the biggest stars of all time and him being there would have taken pressure off of the WWE to shove John Cena down fans' throats meaning Cena likely would have been better received during the span of his career
What if the dynamite kid was in the hall fame
He'd have a ring.
He's a schzio brandishing a handgun in a wheelchair.
What if Bret screwed Vince
If we took your comment seriously, if Brett walked out during the show and showed up on nitro with the belt... It would seriously weaken the WWF image.
What if ken shamrock never happened
Okay this question made up for the lousy Dynamite one.
What if Ken Shamrock never happened? Not sure I'd want to live in a world where Ken never happened.
I honestly don't think The Shield would have been as big as it was if Chris Hero was in the group instead of Reigns. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of Ohno but Reigns added something menacing to the Shield.
Why did wwe get rid of hulk hogan he could have been 17 time world champion
NFL films made an exact same video. As a HUGE fan of pro football and WWE, I loved the NFL's version of this video so much, I kept thinking to myself, what if a video like that was made for WWE? Now I know what it was like, thank you whatculture, I loved this video, my faith in you has risen only slightly but great job.
The attitude era was already taking place by the time Bret left.
Matt Carter i came here in the comments to say just that. Bret had already went batshit insane and was dropping s-bombs while the ropes was still red white and blue
What If John Cena lost to Edge at Unforgiven 2006, went to Smackdown, and turned heel like he originally wanted to?
What if WCW never fired Steve Austin
What if Brock Lesnar defeated John Cena in Extreme Rules 2012
What if beniott hadn't gone mental
If eddie dinet die he mnght not have kill them
Or what if Edge had turned heel instead of Christian in 2001? Would Christian be the more over one now instead??
What if this channel actually did some research
Hall & Nash should be way higher. It would have also had a negative impact on WWF, because without the nWo, the attitude era likely doesn’t happen.
What if wrestlemania failed
Best what if yet.
Swagmaster 69 Most likely WWF would've flopped and never become a global phenomenon, and that we'll still have territorial wrestling promotions.
ZonalJump that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing tho in my opinion
WCW would be our WWE
As a firm WCW fan i have a what if of my own.....What if WCW shut the NWO down before it got out of hand and put the heavyweight title on Benoit or Guerrero......or Jericho before they jumped ship???????
no simon
Eddie vs Shawn at wrestlemania would have been the single greatest wrestling match in the history of professional wrestling and we all know it
What if kharma hadn't got pregnant
Great video bro
The Shield would have been shit without Roman Reigns! I said it. Reigns was super over when he was in the group.
To be fair, his role was pose, go 'OOOHHHH' in the corner and hit a spear. Everyone else worked a match.
Alec Pridgen that's why it worked. You had the crazy hardcore mouthpiece in Dean, the athletic workhorse in Seth and the next big powerhouse in Reigns. Everyone brought something unique to the group. Ohno would have stolen some of Seth and Dean's thunder.
Reigns is a p*ssy ass b*tch that would be a no body if it wasn't for his cousins the usos& the the rock not to mention his uncle rikishi
Pascal Aka he was over because the group not because himself. they made him look strong and Seth mic skill made up for roman's lack of charisma you could have put any big man there with a decent look and got same place
This is very interesting, you’ll probably have to do a second list about this topic. There’s so many things that have a huge butterfly effect to them. Example: no Montreal screwjob, no evil Vince, no feud between him and Austin. Or with the Hall and Nash walking out: Austin doesn’t win King of the Ring, we don’t get the 3:16 promo and he might’ve not been the guy like we all know him today. (Both had to do with stone cold but it wasn’t intentional)
We want Simeone !
The part that hurts the most, is that all this did happen in an alternate universe and its so much more awesome than ours
What if Sheamus and Bryan had a match of regular length at Wrestlemania instead of their 18 second match?
Jordy Lont; It would have been 19 seconds.
Nobody gives a fuck about that
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I'll throw one more; if the invasion took place with the proper stars, the WWE would have a ton of WCW talent but would have to keep using them. It would have been great for people like Steiner, Hogan, Sting, Goldberg, etc. But I strongly doubt people like Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero, Mysterio and others would've even sniffed real air time. With many of them sticking around for even longer would you have had the tag team renaissance of Edge/Christian & the Hardys and The Dudleys? I think WWE would have been sensational for maybe 3-5 years but then would have run into all the talent problems as now you have all the big names going bye bye, without the young developed stars (Orton, Cena, Batista, Edge etc.) ready to take their place.
Shield woulda been so trash w/ Ohno lol smh yall say anything to hate on Roman
Yeah I'm sorry but Ohno in the shield just doesn't fit to me
@@jackstraw522 Roman Reigns Fits Because Roman Looks Badass
Every mention of the running gag that is the JBL-Blue Meanie debacle, is an instant like from me.
What if bret hart instead of leaving for WCW he went for ECW
furry inferno The concussion would've happened a lot sooner.
LMAO
A very nice list, but Nash and Hall's departure should have been at least #3 for the chain reaction it set off.
Without the nWo, the WWE probably wouldn't have been so faction-heavy during the Attitude Era, which was a major contributor in the ratings shift. (Austin didn't save the company on his own). We probably never would have seen DX, meaning HHH may never have become the top heel in the company, and without the Nation of Domination, The Rock may have remained boring and universally hated Rocky Miavia.
Second, the group hug with Nash, Hall, HBK and HHH wouldn't have gone down, and without that moment, kayfabe might be a while lot stronger actors the world. Additionally, HHH would never have become the whipping boy for the incident.
Which drives me to my final point, which does take some speculation. If Vince never punishes HHH for breaking kayfabe, and if DX never forms in response to the nWo's popularity, would HHH have had the opportunity to start dating and eventually marry the heir to the McMahon dynasty? It's quite possible that his penance and rising popularity as the leader of the top faction in the wrestling world allowed all that to happen, and without t his friends' departure from the company several years prior, HHH may never have become the powerful behind-the-scenes force that has shaped the world of professional wrestling for nearly two decades.
What if black saturday never happen
ivan pabon there'd be no WrestleMania 1
*What if Stasiak never blabbed about WCW being in WM17*
The Sheik was only the champ in order to transition it to Hogan instead of having Backlund do it, so this is idiotic...Eddie Guerrero's career had already peaked at the time of his death, otherwise they would have kept him as the champ longer.
BigBadJerry Rogers JBL beat Eddie, at Eddie's request. The stress too much for him, at the time.
@@CaitiffFTW Eddie low self esteem is the issue..he doesnt believe he is Championship material when the fan did..
Here are my top 10 what if. Thanks for the video.
10 - Owen and Eddie never pass away in 1999 and 2005 -
Owen WWE Champion (not sure at what time, extremely difficult be main eventer in the Attitude Era, maybe a short reign between one or two main faces, but sure he has more Intercontinental and Tag team championships putting over new talent). Eddie wins WHC at S.Series 2005, wrestles HBK at WM 22 and damn, I think we didn't see the really very best of him, more years at his best level building a bigger legacy.
9 - Austin never injuries in 1997 and Rocky never conquers Hollywood in 2003 -
More years at they real 100%, part of the ruthless agression and specially Austin has a lot of dream and good scored matches, Cena, Orton, JBL, Lesnar, Bastista, Goldberg. Both of them has more World Championships and they are a hard step for the next generation.
8 - Chris Benoit just passed away in 2007 -
In my opinion the main fact is that Benoit was ill, the CTE was there for his aggresive wrestling style and more than 15 years without the correct medical treatments, enough reason by itself for take care more of wrestlers and starts the PG Era if we consider Benoit's death the main reason of it. If his death had been the same as Mike Webster's or Justin Strzelczyk's now he would be in the HOF. WWE has today a very huge responsabilty about prevent wrestler injuries (still cheering the decision to stop that Cesaro-Sheamus or Daniel Bryan's retirement). Sure all the fans miss him but WWE points to the CTE as guilty without erase Benoit legacy.
7 - Edge cashes MITB at WM 22 for a match against John Cena and reaches his first WM main event -
Coherent decision for main event WM, but MITB is never seen as a chance for squash an exhausted wrestler, but as a chance for a normal but equal and honorable match. Edge is never that kind of clever and calculating villain who defines his personality so good. No Cena-HHH, no Edge-Mick and that unforgettable spear.
6 - Lesnar never leaves WWE in 2004 - Lesnar-Benoit at WM XX (still dreaming about it) as RR winner and as Smackdown superstar, for a rematch of last december SD when Lesnar taps out . Benoit never is drafted to RAW. No Lesnar-Goldberg, no HBK-HHH-Benoit, Eddie never WWE Champion at No Way Out, no Eddie-Angle for the title and never his WM moment with Benoit (unless he is drafted to RAW and wins WHC same night). With 26 years old Lesnar easily stays around 10 years at his 100%. "John Cena is the guy who carry my bags into the building" becomes a HUGE every day life reality, but Cena is accepted by the fans because of not having endless reigns, never "Cena sucks". No one of the thrid generation superstar has one third of their championships.
5 - Eric Bischoff puts over the new generation and ends nWo storyline in 1998 -
Sting raises as an indestructible character who represents the end of nWo, only Goldberg can beat him by the middle of the year, the main wrestler of the new generation, and the entire nWo is finally defeated in a War Games when team face has every wrestler of the future. By 1999 WCW has Goldberg, Y2J, Benoit, Eddie, Booker T, DDP and Rey Mysterio in upper-midcarder/main eventer status making great rivalries and ratings closer to WWE. Good 1999, never mexican wrestlers unmasked, bad ratings, Vince Russo in WCW, fingerpoke of Doom or good talent leaving the company. Maybe WCW creates a women division, changes to a technical wrestling proposal and includes new kind of matches. Hogan, Nash and Hall leave WCW if they can't contribute something good.
4 - Never Montreal Screwjob in 1997 -
I agree; is evident that Austin-McMahon rivalry (and many others) would not have been the same without Mr.McMahon character, one of the best heels of all time; the crowd never hates him so much if the screwjob never exists. Austin Era does not have the same power without him and ratings over WCW are not so big.
3 - Triple H is loyal to Chyna in 2000 -
Chyna is the greatest female wrestler ever, nobody in the whole women roster is able to face her all along the Ruthless Agression Era. Trish Stratus never is 7 time women champion. Triple H never is Vince's son in law, RAW brand is not his playground in 2002-2004, SummerSlam EC 2003 is not a big joke and Goldberg has a long reign. NXT does not have the popularity that has today, nothing about four horsewomen, 5 stars matches or every NXT main eventer that we have seen before go to WWE. Bruno Sammartino and more legends does not come back to WWE.
2 - Jamie Kellner does not cancel WCW in 2001 -
WCW has the main wrestlers of ECW, some years after has the main wrestlers of TNA, that never is founded by Jeff Jarrett. ROH is born in 2002 but their best wrestlers goes to WCW that pay better. WWE never purchases WCW, never has WCW belts and never separates in RAW and Smackdown rosters. MNW continues, youtube is born and WCW stars to put an eye on indie's wrestlers when RVD, Sabu, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, CM Punk and Bobby Roode are already leading the company with the new generation of knockouts; has very good matches and finally invest in good creatives for put the company at the same level as WWE today.
1 - Verne Gagne gives Hogan the WHC over Nick Bockwinkel in 1983 -
Hulkamania runs wild in AWA and the company builds his future around him, Vince McMahon Jr becomes chairman same year and never has the greatest baby face ever, the main wrestler of the Golden Era, the expansion across USA and WWE fails the international market. No Iron Sheik-Hogan. Do we have Wrestlemania in 1985? Does the Golden Era exist? Is WWE known in the whole world? Does Andre the Giant lead WWE by the mid 80's starting Andremania? Does exists drug abuses and premature deaths in wrestling? Are current wrestling fans 10% of real life? Only a mind like Lex Luger's has the answer. "I DONT KNOOOOW!!!"
Great list