Canon 80D - Auto Focus - Part 2
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Canon's 80D has the most sophisticated autofocus system in this class of Canon camera to date. In this video, I share my own setup for wildlife. I also share my own experience and understanding of what the different settings do in the autofocus system
GOD bless you and thank you very much, Grant, for this excellent tutorial.
I find that there are many people on FB talking about photography.
But few are REAL TEACHERS. There is a big different.
YOU are one such REAL TEACHER.
Thank you for your patience in taking your time to explain the vast wisdom and knowledge you have of your equipment and skills using the Canon equipment.
I was able to follow you ever step of the way, something I have trouble doing with a lot of other photography tutorials.
A pity you don't live nearer to London, England. I would definitely attend your workshops.
Many thanks again.
Good video, thanks! Now that I've bothered to go through the menu and read the "help" in each setting I realize the power in "button adventure" and that I didn't really need to watch this video. Canon actually explains everything very well.
Hi Saxon that is actually very true, the menu is pretty comprehensive!
Wow, what a wonderful and clear tutorial on the 80D Canon. Just got my hands on a second hand one. For me, a fantastic camera! Thank you, so much.
the best tutorial i have ever watched very clear and understandable thank you
Thank you very much for two excellent presentations on focusing. I am having trouble with focusing my 80D, so you have given me a lot to work with - thank you and well done.
Hope you are able to get good results from your 80D autofocusing then!
Grant, your videos are priceless. Can't tell you how much I have learned from you.
Really appreciate that feedback Jill :-)
thank you , video 1 and 2 where very helpful
Thanks so much for this tutorial, very helpful, and presented in a clear and understandable way. Best of luck with your work!
Thanks for letting me know!
Perfect accompaniment to part 1 Grant, thank you I have found these videos very helpful.
The most well explanied in-depth coverage on the subject! Thank you!
Thanks Grant,
Another great informative video that will help me with my experiments with birds of prey, dragon flies & kingfishers. Love your stuff, learning so much from these videos. Thanks again. Nick
Excellent tutorial ! Thank you ! You are an excellent teacher!
HI Grant - very useful and informative as always. I appreciate it's all personal choice when setting up the camera for our individual preferences and I opt for different focus points for orientation linked focus points so that when I am in vertical orientation I have it preset to a focus point towards the upper third part of the frame. I find this very useful for birds perched on a bush where I usually start in horizontal orientation and then switch to vertical. For skittish subjects I find it saves time in moving the focus point upwards.
Till recently, I have tended to leave my camera set to Focus priority rather than Release, but following your example I have started to move to release priority and found I can quickly get focus on a subject and that works quite well for me.
This is exactly what I've been looking for - thank-you!
Hello Grant, hope you are well, just wondering why you have stopped creating content? i really like they way you do your videos and explain everything clearly
Hi Ray, I am good thanks, just been busy with my real job leading photo safaris, and then its taking me longer than I expected to figure out the EOS R :-)
@@grantatkinson8108 Yes I just checked on your website after commenting, looks like you're really busy and having fun, which is the main thing, upon purchasing the 80d last year, i decided against the EOS R and bought the trusted 5dMK4 a few weeks ago, really like the 5dmk4, not upgrading now for the next 4 years so Canon will have a lot more options with mirrorless, good to hear you are doing well, all the best Grant and Happy Christmas
@@raytaylor4199 Good to hear that Ray, the 5dmk4 is an excellent camera and there likely won't be real need to upgrade anytime soon :-)..it is more than enough camera for almost any photographic tasks. It is the only camera that Helena and I have two of, in our shared camera bag, so we can each have our own!
Very useful video! I would love to see this applied in real life... Especially for BIF
thanks Grant i love this you are so clear about all functions its great
the best videos i have seen-keep up posting.
Thank you for the very helpful video
Grant, great job. I love what you are doing!!
Thanks so much :-)
Thank you for the great video, 80D is dialed in and had a great weekend shooting Sandhill Cranes here in Minnesota.
Brilliant to hear that, and am envious of that opportunity :-) Jay, hope you got some good images
awesome keep making videos big help thanks
Excellent video. Thanks Sr.
i really enjoy your videos, very knowledgeable great work
Thanks again for another great video. 👍
GREAT Video sr. Tks for sharing your knowledge.
Great information thanks
Thanks, Grant!
Nice video. Thank you.
Thanks Grant!!! Another great video!
Once again spot 👌🇬🇧
Great video. To shoot sports , should I use in autofocus function 2 your same settings ?
thank you!
Excellent video tutorials Grant!
I have a Canon 80D paired with a Tamron 100-400 4.5-6.3 Di VC USD...do you think with this combo and with decent practice I can get sharp shots of birds? or is 400mm (zoom lenses) too short for that crisp photo?
Hi Tushar, I think that is a pretty good mid-level combination that you have. For birds most of us can always use more focal length than 400mm but it is true that 400mm can be enough, specially if the birds are large, and also when you are able to get close to the birds, large or smaller ones. I would expect that in good light, and with a steady hand, you would be able to get high-quality shots, for sure with that equipment. Given the moderate maximum aperture, you might find it easier in more open situations than under a thick, forest canopy where ambient light is limited...
@@grantatkinson8108Thanks mate!
@@tushar2200 there are also many many occasions when I have been taking pictures with longer focal length fixed lens, like EF 500 or EF 600, and those lenses have long minimum focus distances, and an unexpected bird will show up just 1.5 metres away from me, and then I always wished that I had the 100-400!
@@grantatkinson8108 Yeah. This and the option to handhold throughout the entire day pushed me towards the 100-400
Thank you!!!!
When I go to the 45 point box, I don't have the little dots on the screen, like the other 3 options. Any idea why? tks
Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing, Auto Selection AF is when the viewfinder shows some brackets around the outer edge of the viewfinder screen along with 45 small black squares representing the AF point locations. These are quite small squares and they are 'fixed'. In viewfinder focusing, as soon as you half press the shutter, if the camera is able to find focus with any of the 45 small squares, those that are located where focus is achieved will change into larger black squares, sometimes blinking or shifting around amongst the 45 point if the subject or the camera is moving. This works the same in viewfinder focusing with Ai Servo and One Shot
Yep. I figured it out. Tks
please where can get a cheap body of 80d and that lens in your tutorial?
Apologies Mishael Peevy, I cannot help with any suggestions in that regard right now?
Great video! very useful! I've mix days regarding the performance AF of the 80D. Do you think a 1DX or 5DIV would worth upgrade? if so which would you chose?
For sure both the 1DX and the 5DMk4 have noticeably faster and more accurate autofocus than the 80D (or 90D or 7d2). Whilst I find the 1DX and 5d4 quite similar in image quality at very high iso (at the same viewing size), the 5D4 has higher resolution, better Live View operation, much lighter in weight, as advantages. Buffer can be a limit in the 5Dmk4 for action for some users. The 1DX is built tougher, has a bigger buffer, better battery life, faster response times through the viewfinder, and works well with Canon extenders. Drawbacks with the 1DX can be sensor oil or dirt spots on some users cameras, as well as the heavy weight. It also doesnt have a touch screen nor DPAF Live View...
For me if i was shooting birds in flight, action sports, i would choose the 1DX. For general photography the 5D4 is excellent
@@grantatkinson8108 thanks a lot for your reply! I appreciate it, if everything goes well I'd love to get a used one as new models are in the way.
Grant can you show your bag? I'm always interested to know what people use who go outdoors with it. I am a Landscapper so I'm constantly changing until it's modified to what I want. I have to bring more personal stuff than camera stuff. Hiking bags and put inserts in, no camera bags, as none of them are adequate. Do you hike out to get these wildlife pictures? If so, how far and what does your bag look like in a situation like that?
Hi Nagol, i work in a variety of ways. Most times I fly to a camp/lodge then my bags main purpose is to get my gear through the airline bottleneck - in such instances i usually go 3 bodies and 3 lenses (80D and EFS-10-22, 5d4 and EF 100-400 and 500f4 and 1DX is typical). Once at the camp/lodge then I typically go out on a 4x4 vehicle, or go on a boat, or in a hide so i unpack my camera bag, reassemble my combinations, and then carry them made up in some fold-up neoprene bags for protection....happy to post a picture of my bag but not sure how to do so in uTube comments..?
You should start a Facebook photography group so we can see photos you want to post. My Landscapping involves more hiking once away from the vehicle. So, I've went through SO many bags. I've finally settled on a few, all of which are hiking bags. 80L my main one, I use an insert for lenses and put the camera with lens attached on a LowePro top loader, which also goes in the bag or on my chest or around me. I of course have to carry a tripod everywhere, especially since I bracket images. However, due to the 5D Mark IV having that extra DR for shadows, combined with a really good CPL filter, I'm finding I can get a whole lot out of one photo now.
I'd say the hardest part for me, being as that I don't see a vehicle for quite a while, is the food and water part. That takes up a lot of space. I have a tent that is strapped on there incase of weather, although I've never stayed the night yet.
This is something I've just taken up not that long ago. I've always liked Landscape photography and it gave me an excuse to take up hiking and get out doors.
Do you carry a tablet or anything with you? Although I shoot raw, I like that full size JPEG preview and controlling the 5D IV through wifi. I have an iPad Pro 12.9 but it's just too big so I preordered the new 10.5 iPad Pro which is much smaller and lighter.
It's difficult for me to figure out what to take and what not to take, I tend to want to take anything I could possibly use but then that takes the fun out of it by weighing me down. I've also learned being minimalist with photography can be good for me. I shot a whole year with a prime lens a few years back, learned a lot from that one lens setup.
Your requirements are a bit different to mine, I can almost always use a camp/tent/ or lodge for a base, and then still use a vehicle as a base for carrying other peripheral things. However, shooting landscapes your way means you will get images that no casual photographer ever will...
I do have a FB Page and i am on fB with a personal profile: web.facebook.com/grant.atkinson.12?_rdc=1&_rdr
For the big L lenses, I usually take the lens hood off and also remove the tripod foot for the air travel part of my journeys.
Totally agree with you on reducing the load increasing the fun..specially when you have to carry it yourself :-)
I sent you a friend request, I have the same profile picture as I do on here. I've never owned a big L lens because of that reason. I have 24-70 2.8 ii L, I have a 135 F/2L for portraits, as well as some others but I've never bought a 70-200. I bought a 70-300 one time and didn't use it. I wouldn't mind owning one and getting into wild life. As of now, 35mm is my main focal length. There is a gem Canon has for cheap, the Canon F/2 IS. DXOMARK rates it sharper and higher in other areas than my 24-70 2.8 ii. I don't use any lens below 2.8 really on a full frame. It's very light and has IS. I used to use a 24-70 2.8 99% of the time, now I find myself using this little prime the most. But sometimes 35mm isn't the right length. When Canon comes out with a 24-70 2.8 iii with IS maybe I can go back to one lens. Of course not for portrait sessions but hiking/landscape/general stuff. I also like doing videos with the 5D and that's why the IS is important to me.
My wife and I have an EF-S 10-22, a 24-70L f2.8 (version i), then the EF 24-70L f4 IS and the EF 16-35L f4 IS. We have to choose the lighter options due to travel on aircraft being a restriction. Got the friend request thanks. Your lenses are all very very good ones and should give great results on the 5Dmk4..
Dear sir, which camera should I buy for wildlife and macro photography 7D mark ii or 80d ?
if you need to capture fast-moving subject matter, like birds in flight, or animals running and playing, then the 7Dmk2 is the superior tool for the job. The 7Dmk2 has a bigger grip best for people with big hands, and more direct controls for managing focus points etc quickly and without looking away from the viewfinder. The 80D is also a very good camera for wildlife photography specially if you don't need the highest frame rate for fast action. 7 Fps is enough for most wildlife photography needs. It lacks a few quick controls compared to the 7dmk2. The 80D holds a small resolution advantage and a small image quality advantage at higher iso settings which when taken together, could be significant if you shoot in very dark or low light environments, or for macro. The 80D is quite a bit smaller.
go for D500, it's overall better than 7D ii which is now getting slightly older. macro is more about lens than body. Good Live view helps for getting macro shots. Sony and Canon are better in live view.
Id go with the 80d. How could I compare this? Id say its not much different to the 7d mk2. Same processor, just a bit slower. Tbh, it makes no difference on the field. The great thing about the 80d is it rarely cuts out when shooting wildlife like the 70d did which although had 7 fps, it was pointless with only a 15 frame buffer. I still loved the 70d for all its flaws as it could produce some beautiful shots. As much as I wanted the 7d mk2, it is expensive and lacks a lot of the good features of the 70d. You could go with a Nikon d500 which in all fairness to them has epic specs but frankly, I dont really think a 71 frame raw buffer is all that, neither is the amount of focus points. With the 45 af points the 80d has, its more than enough to bolt on solid to fast subjects. Btw, Ive only owned the 80d for a day and Ive got to say, after one session of bird of prey and some quick landscape shots, its already told me enough about how good it is. Its very fun to use.
How do we get all in focus... the bird and the beautiful fundal?
I will need more detail in your question please, if I am to give a good answer?
@@grantatkinson8108 for exemple like in your start video , the bird full detail and the background full detail and everything in the picture to be in full detail , in focus
@@blackaladur I was maybe using an aperture setting for that image of f7.1, and I was quite a far distance away from the eagle in the foreground.
Hi
dude make some videos please !!!
Sorry if I missed this, what tripod/head is that, i like the design.
Hollywood Obsession, it is a Gimpro gimbal head, made of high quality materials and a favourite piece of gear of mine: www.gimprogear.com/
Hi,Can you help me about better setting AF sensitivity for Rink Hockey sport?
I am afraid that I dont have experience of photographing that sport, so it would be hard for me to make a recommendations. Usually if you find that the camera loses focus quickly from one subject then you can make the Sensitivity 'Slower" or more sticky - the Slider to the left. But just make one step changes at a time, that way you can tell if it is helping?
@@grantatkinson8108 Ok, thanks Grant!
Hi Grant.,
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Hi Grant!
My current wildlife gear includes Canon 70D and Canon 400mm f/5.6 IS L. I mostly shoot mammals and occasional birds (mainly birds of pray). I've decided to upgrade my gear due to the poor low light performance of my current set up. I also find that the autofocusing system in my 70D is not too great.
Canon 7D mark II sounds like a great improvement with it's better AF and 10 fps. I suppose that the 7D mark II is better than 80D when it comes to wildlife? As for the lens, I've decided to go for a used Canon 300mm f/2.8 IS L version 1. What do you think of this combo for wildlife? What about using a 1.4x III teleconverter on this set up?
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Tuomas
I would agree that the 7Dmk2 is a better camera for wildlife than your 70D, with its biggest advantages being better AF, also buffer, camera controls and tougher build...it still holds most of those advantages over the 80D though the 80D has a little better image quality. Combining the 7dmk2 with the EF 300L f2.8 will be a powerful setup, and it will still work very well with the 1.4x extender, giving you both a focal length and aperture advantage over your current lens. I agree with your thinking totally
Will check out the photos too
Cheers
Grant
Thanks for your reply!
A little correction to my comment: of course my 400mm f5.6 does not have IS as I stated previously, but I guess you figured that one out :)
Do you have any other suggestions for me in this kind of budget? A used 300mm f2.8 IS is 3000€ and 7Dmk2 1000€. Is there a better set up I could get for 4000€?
Thanks
Hi TupsuRS, i am not fully familiar with the used camera market in your area, and I also dont know if you shoot wildlife in static, far-off situations where you dont need to fire in bursts or track fast-moving wildlife...in which case an 80D would offer a significant upgrade to your 70D as it has more resolution and better image quality, even when compared pixel for pixel. Autofocus is also better, and more versatile when using extenders than with the 70D. Another option could be a used EF 400DO f4 version 1 or the Sigma or Tamron 150-600 but then you are forced to work at very high iso settings...
Thanks for your recommendations!
I think I'll stick with the 7dmk2 and 300mm f2.8, since I really want the better low light performance and 10fps!
Cheers!
You cannot do much better for any APS-C sensor than pair it with an L-series f2.8 lens, TupsuRS..hope it gets you great results.