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Pico obviously 🙄 copied the QUEST 2 They re stooopid to have brought it out It s non innovative I ll only upgrade my quest2 in 2 years from now or if Apple 🍏 comes out with their Version of VR 🥽/ 👓AR Why would anyone in their right minds upgrade to a PiCO 4 I meant 🤥 PINNOCCHIO 4
Danke! Your reviews are always spot on and concise but really cover all the topics one really needs to know without delving to much into technical details. The non-influency and objective stance adds a lot to the thrustworthiness. The only experiences I have with VR are the Vive for a day and the Quest 2 for a week (also with SteamVR via cable). I thought about buying a Quest 2 with the BOBOVR-M1 as even with my rather dated GPU, SteamVR and the game Free Driver ran pretty good. This review brought that train of thought to a screeching halt. Higher resolution, One-To-One see-through with pretty colors, accurate tracking, light-weight, comfortable head-band from the get-go, motor IPD, no shine through, easy for glasses. I'll happily wear bluetooth headsets and strap a powerbank to my hip or arm and will hopefully have longer sessions with this in the future. The price is also really nice and heiss.
BoboVR has a pretty nice battery sollution for the Pico 4. It's about 50 euro.. 2 batteries and a charging dock... so you can keep swapping batteries for infinite play... It goes on top of the original battery...
Hi, as I don't use wireless PC VR and as i don't see anywhere a fps meter, ( fraps, msi after burner) or fps vr to benchmark during test for quest 2 using airlink or virtual desktop , or a pico 4, is that impossible to see fps or latency when not using display port or usb-c link ? thanks
strange, the mic was better on all the other reviewers, maybe they just were not as loud as you xD, as for the battery - saw someone comparing it to q2 and pico got 15 min more than q2 doing the same things, tho pico is brighter and the xr2 is using more energy as the cooler is better
MRTV said the mic is as good as the Index lol. This headset seems so mixed from different youtubers. I worry that many youtubers care more about their audience interaction and engagement than unbiased reviews (which is understandable as youtube kind of forces that). Will you ever be on the next demension podcast?
I had a Quest 2 up until recently and am considering a Pico 4 as replacement. My main issue with the Quest 2 was that my unit often (very often) didn't startup properly, I was stuck with a black screen a few seconds after the unlock screen showed up. In the end it was harder and harder to get it to restart and boot properly until it kind of died, never giving me anything else than this black screen. I guess it's not an easy question but, should I expect this kind of undesirable behavior from the Pico 4? I'd just like my next VR headset to not die on me early (the Quest 2 was about half a year old).
Pico can deliver cheap headsest with pancake lenses, color camera and you can change IPD in more steps than Quest2. These are arguments strong for Pico. Quest 2 had lot problems as bad or nothing quality control. I had 4x quest 2 headsets and 3 from these was with bad lenses - with failures as black spots inside lenses, reflect rainbow was broken, image was strong blurry, strong god rays etc. Only 1 from 4 was OK. Really terrible and I am thinking to changing on the Pico.
I had an index but it died recently. I work remotely and travelled round the globe with it and it took a bit of a battering. I’m looking for a new hmd but don’t want anything Chinese or faceberg. I’m hoping an index 2 is on the horizon?
It will be perfect for me because i have a splitter for audio and charging and i also use wireless Virtual desktop already on my quest 2. Guess I'll have both for a while and see which is better for daily use. Thanks for your vid 👍
I like the info you provide, But I'm not sure if you are aware that while you are showing the menu and pointing out things, you move your head to follow the pointer instead of using your eyes. We couldn't focus on the content because of your constant moving your center of focus. the whole menu is on the screen. Why the erratic head bobbing? other than that i like your reviews. thanks.
@@nb8c_fd seriously. I guess we are left hoping Valve will save us. I'm thinking the decision to not have direct video is meant to drive higher sales in the Pico store.
@@sproket343 they'd make a lot more money from PCVR enthusiasts than from people buying chinese clones of games on their store lol. I'm hoping HP release a Reverb G3 at some point in the near future, and I'm also excited to see how the Deckard turns out
@@sproket343 Yeah I read that earlier as well. I'm looking forward to seeing what the MeganeX has to offer, as well as the Valve Deckard and whatever HTC is currently working on.
Great review, how does the FOV difference feel in the headset vs the quest 2? Just preordered one in the hopes of feeling less boxed in, just wondering what to expect
great question, I haven't tried but I've heard the goggles feeling isn't there anymore or as prominent at least. I mean it is not the greatest FOV increase but I think those few degrees will help some at least.
Hello just a quick question. What do you think about PCVR and Steam VR. I can not use wireless connection or virtual desktop because my internet is just to slow so what is a better option for me using USB Type C connection. Quest 2 or the Pico 4? I will mainly be playing simracing games.
You mention that you can use USB-C to 3.5mm dongle DAC as a solution for headphones. While it may work, my concern would be the added power draw. If it already does not have much battery life, having to power a DAC may cut into that battery life as well. Bluetooth audio is not a solution, as that not only sounds worse and may have latency problems, but that would sap battery life too. Considering the low cost of the part, it is unfortunate to not include it in the unit. That said, the pricing is pretty competitive, and being able to attach an external battery bank is nice.
The sell adapters that have a USB pass through, so you can charge while using headphones. I brough one for my PICO 4. The device itself (Pico 4) is so so.
Mine is being returned due to horrible Mura. That, along with some pixel inversion, make for terrible visuals and oddly enough a rather obvious SDE. I will try another one this weekend hopefully. The controllers are awesome though.
seems like any reviewer right now is having issues with direct pico to steamvr streaming.. I hope this is because pico 4 has not publicly released yet and that steam will update to support the neo 4 and pico will update to bring out their new software UI as shown in their press event
With my Pico Neo 3 Link i had absolutely no latency with my €58 Bluetooth 5.2 headphones. I don't know about Bluetooth 5.0 headphones, but anything over Bluetooth 5.1 (the maximum the headset supports) should be without any noticeable latency
@@cyantox Are you still using the Neo 3 link? I'm tossing up between this (as it has DP), the Pico 4, or Sony have announced they *may be supporting PC with PSVR2 (that's a no brainer!) Have you tried the Pico 4? I'll be playing mainly via Steam, HL Alyx etc
@@theaxolotllover9905 While this is true, it is being said that Pico's own virtual desktop (not to be confused with the paid streaming software named "Virtual Desktop") is not as good as the paid app made by ggodin(I think that's correct?)
The advantages of Reverb G2 is the brightness, (color?) and uncompressed low latency PCVR, doesn't run out of battery. Pico4 has better lenses, better FOV, and lighter headset part (when you subtract the rear battery), though G2 is relatively light and comfortable too compared to other headsets. However, if you count in having to use external headphones on the Pico 4 for acceptable sound quality, vs G2 speakers, then the comfort argument is not so clear anymore. Controllers and tracking are advantage on Pico 4 in terms of tracking, ergonomics, haptics. On G2, you need some special batteries for it to work properly or to not burn through million AA batteries. Not sure about controller support in SteamVR on Pico4, but on G2 the support is pretty bad and you have to do a lot of custom binding with the awful SteamVR binding UI. I mainly play Beat Saber on the G2, and the brightness, colors, comfort, audio and native PCVR all make it great experience even if small tracking volume don't make it ideal for competitive play (I have no problem finishing highest end maps though). However, I'd say Pico 4 is otherwise much preferable for general VR gaming.
Hi! I have a question. I understand that Pico 4 in standalone mode is not compatible with KAT VR C2, but if I conected Pico 4 by a cable with my PC and open SteamVR to play games, is KAT C2 will work with my PC, Steam VR games and Pico 4?
As a plus, if it has great customer support that listen im in. Update from Meta on my quest 2 has rendered it useless and is now a door stop....Looking forward to this product as a good alternative!
Great video. As a sim racer I have two questions. 1) How does the pico 4 compare with reverb G2 as that was my last owned headset. 2) Is the headset more comforatble than the reverb and is the visuals on par or better than the G2 (if using pico 4 through virtual desktop or with cable)? I hear pico 4 has a bigger area of clarity (reverb has mega small sweet spot?) pico is 80grans lighter. Does it feel like you could wear lot longer than a reverb?
if you already have the G2 I wouldn't buy the P4, but all in all I would prefer the G2 because it has direct connection to PC via displayport, much better quality
@@voodoodevr-en what anout comfort. I hear lots of you influencers hyping the comfort, but quite a few consumers already reporting comfort is horrid. How can you both be so different? So as per my other original question. Is Pico 4 comfort much improved over the g2?
Oh thank you for the great review. I want to buy the Pico 4 but I want to know if using the USB C to connect it to the computer it will not have compression issues or lower resolution.. what do you think?
How did you buy it, because I feel like every pick 4 on there is a scammer lmao, also what did you pay and what was the shipping cost, would rly help thanks :)
The side light leakage is bad. I wear glasses so it's pretty bad... Can literally see the reflection of the light source behind my play space in the lenses.
@@TheFloodFourm Not sure my wifi setup is up to streaming tbh so wired is an attractive idea. I'm keen to hear more about the USB-c connection link up!
You won't be able to power the PICO 4 with an external battery and have audio at the same time with a USB to Audio.Jack adapter for long PCVR sessions. The only option is Wireless PCVR without headphones and external battery or with headphones without an external battery. If you use Bluetooth headphones, mind the delayed audio or image. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I need your expert opinion between a pico 4 for 550 or a reverb G2 for 300 (cad). I want to play pcvr but don't have a sutible router for streaming currently and no USB C on my rig but I do like the idea of wireless play. The tracking is the only thing really stopping me from pulling the trigger on the G2 as i've heard so many mixed reports but if its good enough for blade and sorcery, boneworks ect it would be much easier than importing the pico. What do you think?
If you already have a high enough spec PC I suggest go for reverb G2 since it's cheaper so you don't pay for a processor chip that you won't use. Plus G2 has the same audio as Index which sounds great. I don't like G2's controllers, though, and if you wanna swap them to Index controllers it would be another huge investment.
I'm using a G2 (1st Gen) and I would say it depends on what games you'll play. I would say the G2's tracking (in my experience) is acceptable, but I did notice it's not as good as Rift S (my first) when it comes to spaces above, below and behind the back. Also, it has a lot more issues when trying to put the controllers in front of the other like in FPS games. I am used to it and am used to angling my hands to make it work somewhat, not for all guns though. And because you mentioned BnS specifically, I would say it's serviceable BUT, I can never use weapons like spears or any other long weapons where the hands are far apart. Not sure if this problem is seen in other inside out tracking HMDs, but for the G2 I am using, it's definitely a problem. The biggest positive for the G2 is the display and the direct cable connection though, so if you use it for media viewing, this might be especially impt. I think it was MRTV who very briefly compared visuals between headsets (can't rmb which vid but I think it was the FOV one?) and said that G2 is still kinda better in clarity compared to the Pico 4.
man its really hard too decide on the one hand from the hardware site the pico 4 is more comfortable etc but when we are talking about software and games meta quest 2 have the upper hand... i cant decide i really hope that steam will release an good vr headset wich dosnt costs 1000 bucks
@@randomcommenter3726 In theory it is possible to do DP over USB-C but I highly dont think they will be adding it in ... but it is a possbility for the future at least.
Got mine on pre order from german amazon. 49 dollars to ship. Will be her between the 24th to the 29th. Was wondering does it have its own web browser like the quest has.
not a big fan of the controllers, if you have big hands there is nothing you can do, quest2 same size but you can buy something like the Kiwi Design to make them bigger... same thing for attachements, gunstocks, golf clubs or other stuff will be hareder to find or make with this design
Hello, Thank you for your review. Can I use apps like sidequest? I want to play VR games as Return to Castle wolfenstein, Half life 1, Quake, Doom3. These are uploaded to the Q2 via sidequest app. Is something similar for Pico 4? Thanks
Afaik the SDK is different, I've heard some developer that port their app to pico and he have to edit the control or something so you can't simply use quest app using sidequest.
@@randomcommenter3726 Thank you. Maybe quest apps are based on Oculus SDK in Unity3D and for pico I can do app with Open XR. App based on OpenXR could be available for all headsets
I don't agree with respect to the finger prints, I think it looks beautiful just the way the front is designed and you can easily clean it with a micro fibre cloth
it charges, but only with the 5W from the PC USB. The Headset uses more than 10W when you use it, so it gives you a bit more (play)time, but it will loose charge.
@@gidnoot3140 Depends on the power bank you use. The best would be one with 20W and PowerDelivery support. 20W is the maximum that the Pico 4 supports, but less is also ok, but 10W should be a minimum.
I think you can activate usb in the devoleper settings. Have pico 3, ordered pico4 for 280 euros.v. For that price I couldn't pass it up. Not interested in meta at all. I mainly play sims. Meta totally unsuitable with the gecomprimeerde image.
@@radug9594 Thanks for replying 👍 I was questioning what you meant by activating the USB, I've just not heard any mention of activating a USB before, just plugging something into it.
Nothing really of both. The Pico 4 only has one color camera (instead of 2 like the Quest Pro), but the Pico 4 uses the other 4 black/white cameras and uses the information to turn the image material from the one color camera into a "3D" image. That's why you see this wobbling sometimes. It's really good from what I've heard, but real 3D is of course even better.
Thank you very much for the fair and balanced review of this product. Very helpful and very thorough. Could you please tell me what I'll be missing if I choose the 128 GB variant instead of the 256 GB one?
@Hello not really, it depends on what kind of VR SDK was used: there is OpenXR and Oculus/Meta proprietary SDKs. In case of the latter the app won't work on Pico (and I think it's true for most VR apps)
Just unboxed my Pico 4, and my first impression was... DISAPPOINTED 😭😭😭 The face cushion is so stiff, it pressed my face much more than the Quest 2, I didn't feel it light at all. It also left ugly marks on my face just after a few minutes of play. Terrible. 😣 There was no tracking at all until I set the boundaries, it made me feel dizzy. The worst bug: if I shake my head quickly, the whole scene moves with my head like there was no tracking at all. This doesn't happen with the Quest 2. Very annoying... The color pass-through is also very bad. Objects that are 1.5m tall were displayed as flat on the floor... The depth sensor is clearly missing, without that it's a mess. Overall, the Pico 4 is a huge disappointment, I think I'll cry.... And will sell it as soon as I can. 😞
Can you explain me why cover and gasket are so big, bulky and thick? They waste the advantage of pancake lenses. Pico4 looks as thick and big as the Q2 and not slim as it could be thanks to pancake lenses
14:18 this is what you call "i can see everything sharp" ?? does vr community have an extremely low standart for sharpness or something? that's blurry af!
the lenses pretty much zoom onto the displays, which makes the resolution look alot lower than it actually is, so yes, the standard for sharpness in vr is very low.
@@zues287 do u have it ....someone was saying at a distance it looks 3d but close up things don't look well ....and someone was saying the distortion around the hands like what u have in the quest 2 happens when it's failing to composit a 3d picture ...it doesn't look like a fuzzy composit video from the black and white cameras and the color camera like the qpro ........some people r saying confusing stuff or don't know what they r talking about.....some people were saying stright out it's 2d
@@voodoodevr-en im serious. i always thought it would be nice to have the option to play a vr game while lying on back. basically make the walls the floor. Is this what that mode does?
@@maxking8146 what do you mean? Like do you mean stand alone on the headset and not on the pc? You need a pc to play hit man vr, it’s not on the quest or pico store.
Are you blasting a pulsed light infront of yourself while checking tracking.? Looks like your standing infront of a TV or a monitor or maybe a spotlight?.. when looking at the glow in the Pico4 visir.? 20:00 How do you think inside out tracking works? pulsed light from lighting equioment where most are using LEDs nowadays, and screens, sunlight and general light with a lot IR.. is contaminating a lot., as the inside-out-tracking is based on IR. maybe not the ideal way to test IR tracking, if you actually have a spotlight flooding you in direct light.
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Can you connect Bluetooth headset to the pico 4 headset
Does the pico 4 work in the us or no?
Pico obviously 🙄 copied the QUEST 2
They re stooopid to have brought it out
It s non innovative
I ll only upgrade my quest2 in 2 years from now or if Apple 🍏 comes out with their Version of VR 🥽/ 👓AR
Why would anyone in their right minds upgrade to a PiCO 4
I meant 🤥 PINNOCCHIO 4
@@alexmenard473 it has much better specs and technology than the quest 2 so it would be an upgrade.
What about Reverb G2 in comparison?
Danke!
Your reviews are always spot on and concise but really cover all the topics one really needs to know without delving to much into technical details.
The non-influency and objective stance adds a lot to the thrustworthiness.
The only experiences I have with VR are the Vive for a day and the Quest 2 for a week (also with SteamVR via cable).
I thought about buying a Quest 2 with the BOBOVR-M1 as even with my rather dated GPU, SteamVR and the game Free Driver ran pretty good.
This review brought that train of thought to a screeching halt.
Higher resolution, One-To-One see-through with pretty colors, accurate tracking, light-weight, comfortable head-band from the get-go, motor IPD, no shine through, easy for glasses.
I'll happily wear bluetooth headsets and strap a powerbank to my hip or arm and will hopefully have longer sessions with this in the future.
The price is also really nice and heiss.
As a German patriot you need to check out Gothic VR project, it's coming along really nicely, but I think the project could use more publicity
Well I was looking in to this one... but lack of connectors... what is wrong with the companies, is it so much problems to put them in?
That face gasket is deep. I bet you could get a bigger FOV with a thinner gasket
BoboVR has a pretty nice battery sollution for the Pico 4. It's about 50 euro.. 2 batteries and a charging dock... so you can keep swapping batteries for infinite play... It goes on top of the original battery...
Hi, as I don't use wireless PC VR and as i don't see anywhere a fps meter, ( fraps, msi after burner) or fps vr to benchmark during test for quest 2 using airlink or virtual desktop , or a pico 4, is that impossible to see fps or latency when not using display port or usb-c link ? thanks
strange, the mic was better on all the other reviewers, maybe they just were not as loud as you xD, as for the battery - saw someone comparing it to q2 and pico got 15 min more than q2 doing the same things, tho pico is brighter and the xr2 is using more energy as the cooler is better
I think the mic is better when you use Virtual Desktop
I use my pico 4 more than my quest 2 now. I got some of the upgrades for comfortability, a million times better
MRTV said the mic is as good as the Index lol. This headset seems so mixed from different youtubers. I worry that many youtubers care more about their audience interaction and engagement than unbiased reviews (which is understandable as youtube kind of forces that).
Will you ever be on the next demension podcast?
Need to be careful ordering to us in the USA, the store may not work
LOL, if battery life is that bad, probably best not to tie up the C connection with headphones. The lack of 3.5mm seems a silly omission, BTW.
Read the description.
I had a Quest 2 up until recently and am considering a Pico 4 as replacement. My main issue with the Quest 2 was that my unit often (very often) didn't startup properly, I was stuck with a black screen a few seconds after the unlock screen showed up. In the end it was harder and harder to get it to restart and boot properly until it kind of died, never giving me anything else than this black screen. I guess it's not an easy question but, should I expect this kind of undesirable behavior from the Pico 4? I'd just like my next VR headset to not die on me early (the Quest 2 was about half a year old).
У меня тоже самое на quest 2....этот дурацкий черный экран
Try clearing guardian history
Amazing review. I can not wait to switch to the Pico Neo 4 and never look back at the Quest again.
Mark Zak no longer heavily invest with game developers for exclusive anymore so no reason to support them anymore
Pico can deliver cheap headsest with pancake lenses, color camera and you can change IPD in more steps than Quest2. These are arguments strong for Pico. Quest 2 had lot problems as bad or nothing quality control. I had 4x quest 2 headsets and 3 from these was with bad lenses - with failures as black spots inside lenses, reflect rainbow was broken, image was strong blurry, strong god rays etc. Only 1 from 4 was OK. Really terrible and I am thinking to changing on the Pico.
I have a pico 4 and I can play beat saber using wirelles conection and steam VR, on PC
I had an index but it died recently. I work remotely and travelled round the globe with it and it took a bit of a battering. I’m looking for a new hmd but don’t want anything Chinese or faceberg. I’m hoping an index 2 is on the horizon?
valve will collect and sell your data as well.
Looking forward to an Index 2 (deckard) as well. The quest 3 seems interesting, but I'm so done with Facebook that it's a deal breaker every time.
It will be perfect for me because i have a splitter for audio and charging and i also use wireless Virtual desktop already on my quest 2. Guess I'll have both for a while and see which is better for daily use. Thanks for your vid 👍
I like the info you provide, But I'm not sure if you are aware that while you are showing the menu and pointing out things, you move your head to follow the pointer instead of using your eyes. We couldn't focus on the content because of your constant moving your center of focus. the whole menu is on the screen. Why the erratic head bobbing? other than that i like your reviews. thanks.
If this had included a direct PCVR video connection it would have been perfect.
yup. this is the most painfully wasted potential the VR market has seen in years.
@@nb8c_fd seriously. I guess we are left hoping Valve will save us. I'm thinking the decision to not have direct video is meant to drive higher sales in the Pico store.
@@sproket343 they'd make a lot more money from PCVR enthusiasts than from people buying chinese clones of games on their store lol.
I'm hoping HP release a Reverb G3 at some point in the near future, and I'm also excited to see how the Deckard turns out
@@nb8c_fd Sadly the rumors on the street are that hp is exiting the VR space. I don't think they can compete effectively.
@@sproket343 Yeah I read that earlier as well.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the MeganeX has to offer, as well as the Valve Deckard and whatever HTC is currently working on.
Great review, how does the FOV difference feel in the headset vs the quest 2? Just preordered one in the hopes of feeling less boxed in, just wondering what to expect
great question, I haven't tried but I've heard the goggles feeling isn't there anymore or as prominent at least. I mean it is not the greatest FOV increase but I think those few degrees will help some at least.
it's little bit better than q2
Hello just a quick question. What do you think about PCVR and Steam VR. I can not use wireless connection or virtual desktop because my internet is just to slow so what is a better option for me using USB Type C connection. Quest 2 or the Pico 4? I will mainly be playing simracing games.
It doesn't matter about your Internet. You just need a decent router connected via ethernet to your pc, ideally wifi 6 on a separate SSID.
You mention that you can use USB-C to 3.5mm dongle DAC as a solution for headphones. While it may work, my concern would be the added power draw. If it already does not have much battery life, having to power a DAC may cut into that battery life as well. Bluetooth audio is not a solution, as that not only sounds worse and may have latency problems, but that would sap battery life too. Considering the low cost of the part, it is unfortunate to not include it in the unit. That said, the pricing is pretty competitive, and being able to attach an external battery bank is nice.
The sell adapters that have a USB pass through, so you can charge while using headphones. I brough one for my PICO 4. The device itself (Pico 4) is so so.
Mine is being returned due to horrible Mura. That, along with some pixel inversion, make for terrible visuals and oddly enough a rather obvious SDE. I will try another one this weekend hopefully. The controllers are awesome though.
I'm also returning mine to Bestware... :-(
How was the new one?
@@RayFaye Third one had no mura
seems like any reviewer right now is having issues with direct pico to steamvr streaming.. I hope this is because pico 4 has not publicly released yet and that steam will update to support the neo 4 and pico will update to bring out their new software UI as shown in their press event
Ich finde es genial dass du alles auch auf Englisch drehst!
😁
Sehr gutes Video, danke!
On the battery life - I would only use PIco 4 with PCVR wireless, would this use lots of battery or little?
yes, you'd get 2 hours.
Does the Pico4 supports 3D movies?
And can it handle iso files?
24:30 if you use Bluetooth for headphones does it actually work, or is it half a second delayed like the terrible implementation on quest 2?
this
With my Pico Neo 3 Link i had absolutely no latency with my €58 Bluetooth 5.2 headphones. I don't know about Bluetooth 5.0 headphones, but anything over Bluetooth 5.1 (the maximum the headset supports) should be without any noticeable latency
@@cyantox Are you still using the Neo 3 link? I'm tossing up between this (as it has DP), the Pico 4, or Sony have announced they *may be supporting PC with PSVR2 (that's a no brainer!) Have you tried the Pico 4? I'll be playing mainly via Steam, HL Alyx etc
Cool review ! =) Is that a NIntendo VirtuaBoy on your right ? I want a review on that ! lol ^^
yes haha. I already did a review
@@voodoodevr-en Sweet 😁👍
Thanks for the review.
Important information for me, can you tell us if the pico 4 can be used when charging ?
how is guardian stability for big areas ?
didn't have any problems
Is the virtual desktop available for free?
Yeah it is it’s built into the Pico 4 you just need to select it on the device in settings or something and then connected to your PC
@@theaxolotllover9905 While this is true, it is being said that Pico's own virtual desktop (not to be confused with the paid streaming software named "Virtual Desktop") is not as good as the paid app made by ggodin(I think that's correct?)
Which should I get if I want to play PC VR games? Pico 4 or HP Reverb G2?
I wear glasses fyi.
The advantages of Reverb G2 is the brightness, (color?) and uncompressed low latency PCVR, doesn't run out of battery. Pico4 has better lenses, better FOV, and lighter headset part (when you subtract the rear battery), though G2 is relatively light and comfortable too compared to other headsets. However, if you count in having to use external headphones on the Pico 4 for acceptable sound quality, vs G2 speakers, then the comfort argument is not so clear anymore.
Controllers and tracking are advantage on Pico 4 in terms of tracking, ergonomics, haptics. On G2, you need some special batteries for it to work properly or to not burn through million AA batteries. Not sure about controller support in SteamVR on Pico4, but on G2 the support is pretty bad and you have to do a lot of custom binding with the awful SteamVR binding UI.
I mainly play Beat Saber on the G2, and the brightness, colors, comfort, audio and native PCVR all make it great experience even if small tracking volume don't make it ideal for competitive play (I have no problem finishing highest end maps though). However, I'd say Pico 4 is otherwise much preferable for general VR gaming.
@@voinian Thank you for your thorough answer. You helped me decide.
Wow.. Already finished? You'll get 100% retention score for my view LoL :) Thanks for the video!
Here is a video of the shaking head bug of the Pico 4: ruclips.net/user/shortsjWEsAROhJXs
hi, are you on wifi 5 or 6?
Hi thanks. Would you say the screenshot effect is better than the oculus quest 2? as I could see the pixels quite clearly in the quest 2. Thanks.
Hi! I have a question. I understand that Pico 4 in standalone mode is not compatible with KAT VR C2, but if I conected Pico 4 by a cable with my PC and open SteamVR to play games, is KAT C2 will work with my PC, Steam VR games and Pico 4?
Great review. No videos about finger tracking?
As a plus, if it has great customer support that listen im in. Update from Meta on my quest 2 has rendered it useless and is now a door stop....Looking forward to this product as a good alternative!
Might have to get this instead of the crystal/12k. Those pancake lens really mean a lot.
Great video. As a sim racer I have two questions.
1) How does the pico 4 compare with reverb G2 as that was my last owned headset.
2) Is the headset more comforatble than the reverb and is the visuals on par or better than the G2 (if using pico 4 through virtual desktop or with cable)?
I hear pico 4 has a bigger area of clarity (reverb has mega small sweet spot?) pico is 80grans lighter. Does it feel like you could wear lot longer than a reverb?
if you already have the G2 I wouldn't buy the P4, but all in all I would prefer the G2 because it has direct connection to PC via displayport, much better quality
@@voodoodevr-en what anout comfort. I hear lots of you influencers hyping the comfort, but quite a few consumers already reporting comfort is horrid. How can you both be so different?
So as per my other original question. Is Pico 4 comfort much improved over the g2?
There is no display port...thats suck. :( I was hoping pico 4 was the same as oculus quest 2 but better.
uh it is. 4k resolution, light weight, better controller tracking, color pass through....
Oh thank you for the great review.
I want to buy the Pico 4 but I want to know if using the USB C to connect it to the computer it will not have compression issues or lower resolution..
what do you think?
it will be compressed thru usb but possibly less than wireless streaming
@@Shnowz Thank you for answering.
US Pico4 user here. I bought it off ebay and got it pretty fast.
How did you buy it, because I feel like every pick 4 on there is a scammer lmao, also what did you pay and what was the shipping cost, would rly help thanks :)
@@coolestkid3435 just ordered mine from Amazon uk and had it shipped to the us. Hope this helps!!
@@irahughes8931 yeah! I discovered that a week ago and I bought it, it's on its way :D
@@coolestkid3435 Nice ours gets here on Friday. So excited
Please compare the display side by side with Q2, like you did with Q1 and Q2.
How come you are giving a review when others are not, due to the software has not been finalised by Pico?
I just do what I want and I have no idea what you mean, there are already thousands of reviews of the P4.
The side light leakage is bad. I wear glasses so it's pretty bad... Can literally see the reflection of the light source behind my play space in the lenses.
Easy fix is to put a foam wedge between the headband and the faceplate foam surround. Worked for me.
the index fov values I guess that's with the lenses as close as possible to your eyes right
Hi voodooVR, can you please confirm if Echo Vr (Arena) is playable on the Pico 4 via Virtual Desktop please, thankyou very much
will work with virtual desktop
Which to buy right now? Pico4 or Valve Index?
$400 headset that can do standalone and PCVR wirelessly or wired vs $1,000 headset that just does wired PCVR
🤔
@@TheFloodFourm Not sure my wifi setup is up to streaming tbh so wired is an attractive idea. I'm keen to hear more about the USB-c connection link up!
You won't be able to power the PICO 4 with an external battery and have audio at the same time with a USB to Audio.Jack adapter for long PCVR sessions. The only option is Wireless PCVR without headphones and external battery or with headphones without an external battery. If you use Bluetooth headphones, mind the delayed audio or image. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
why would you use adapter with jack and usb for power?
if you use it to connect ot the PC - just use the bluetooth on your PC for Audio - USB-c for Powerbank or something else on the headset
@@Eowen129 Never realized wireless gaming headsets is so real a demand.
Which is the best VR all you tested so far?
Did they update the pass through visual?
I dont think so
Going with the pick pro, hopefully the mic is better, if not I’m happy with my modmic lol
I need your expert opinion between a pico 4 for 550 or a reverb G2 for 300 (cad). I want to play pcvr but don't have a sutible router for streaming currently and no USB C on my rig but I do like the idea of wireless play. The tracking is the only thing really stopping me from pulling the trigger on the G2 as i've heard so many mixed reports but if its good enough for blade and sorcery, boneworks ect it would be much easier than importing the pico. What do you think?
If you already have a high enough spec PC I suggest go for reverb G2 since it's cheaper so you don't pay for a processor chip that you won't use. Plus G2 has the same audio as Index which sounds great. I don't like G2's controllers, though, and if you wanna swap them to Index controllers it would be another huge investment.
controlers of G2 sucks! i have it and tracking just not good... i'm getting pico 4 for PCVR too
I'm using a G2 (1st Gen) and I would say it depends on what games you'll play. I would say the G2's tracking (in my experience) is acceptable, but I did notice it's not as good as Rift S (my first) when it comes to spaces above, below and behind the back.
Also, it has a lot more issues when trying to put the controllers in front of the other like in FPS games. I am used to it and am used to angling my hands to make it work somewhat, not for all guns though. And because you mentioned BnS specifically, I would say it's serviceable BUT, I can never use weapons like spears or any other long weapons where the hands are far apart. Not sure if this problem is seen in other inside out tracking HMDs, but for the G2 I am using, it's definitely a problem.
The biggest positive for the G2 is the display and the direct cable connection though, so if you use it for media viewing, this might be especially impt. I think it was MRTV who very briefly compared visuals between headsets (can't rmb which vid but I think it was the FOV one?) and said that G2 is still kinda better in clarity compared to the Pico 4.
Great first look!
man its really hard too decide on the one hand from the hardware site the pico 4 is more comfortable etc but when we are talking about software and games meta quest 2 have the upper hand... i cant decide i really hope that steam will release an good vr headset wich dosnt costs 1000 bucks
see Meta Connect tomorrow :) Pico 4 does PCVR :)
The lack of wired support for PCVR makes this a no go for me
Didn't it have wired?
it has wired, but only USB
it will probably get fixed quick. it wasn't even launched yet lol
@@pablowasserman wdym? It's the hardware problems, they probably don't want to spend extra cost for display port support so it won't be supported.
@@randomcommenter3726 In theory it is possible to do DP over USB-C but I highly dont think they will be adding it in ... but it is a possbility for the future at least.
Got mine on pre order from german amazon. 49 dollars to ship. Will be her between the 24th to the 29th. Was wondering does it have its own web browser like the quest has.
Yes, it does
not a big fan of the controllers, if you have big hands there is nothing you can do, quest2 same size but you can buy something like the Kiwi Design to make them bigger... same thing for attachements, gunstocks, golf clubs or other stuff will be hareder to find or make with this design
Thanks for the review Seb. Excellent as always. Will wait for the perfect headset if there ever will be one :)
Thomas
@@voodoodevr-en Haha sorry about that. Sometimes I mix you guys up.
is there bigscreen vr app on there?
Hello, Thank you for your review. Can I use apps like sidequest? I want to play VR games as Return to Castle wolfenstein, Half life 1, Quake, Doom3. These are uploaded to the Q2 via sidequest app. Is something similar for Pico 4? Thanks
Afaik the SDK is different, I've heard some developer that port their app to pico and he have to edit the control or something so you can't simply use quest app using sidequest.
@@randomcommenter3726 Thank you. Maybe quest apps are based on Oculus SDK in Unity3D and for pico I can do app with Open XR. App based on OpenXR could be available for all headsets
I don't agree with respect to the finger prints, I think it looks beautiful just the way the front is designed and you can easily clean it with a micro fibre cloth
It won't charge when tethered via cable for pcvr?
it charges, but only with the 5W from the PC USB. The Headset uses more than 10W when you use it, so it gives you a bit more (play)time, but it will loose charge.
@@cyantox But cant you use a powerd usb port or smth?
@@cyantox is this also true when charging from power bank?
@@gidnoot3140 Depends on the power bank you use. The best would be one with 20W and PowerDelivery support. 20W is the maximum that the Pico 4 supports, but less is also ok, but 10W should be a minimum.
how often do we clean our pico 4 from the sweat?
Whenever the cloth becomes damp before wearing it
I think you can activate usb in the devoleper settings. Have pico 3, ordered pico4 for 280 euros.v. For that price I couldn't pass it up. Not interested in meta at all. I mainly play sims. Meta totally unsuitable with the gecomprimeerde image.
Where did you find the pico 4 for 280€ ?? 🤔🤔
Hi Eugene,
What do you mean by 'activate USB'? for DP?
@@los_lantis2821 if you have a Pico 3, you get a discount on the 4
@@PINEAUSFUNKYLEGS there is no dp on the Pico 4
@@radug9594 Thanks for replying 👍 I was questioning what you meant by activating the USB, I've just not heard any mention of activating a USB before, just plugging something into it.
do you have any info on the by PIMAX Crystal OR is it too good to be true
will release soon
Pico 4 is god,the battery life is still pretty decent at least the same as quest 2 and the bugs,it just released so it obviously has bugs
They're scared of your honesty lol
Is the pass through camera 3D or 2D?
Not 100% sure, but it's probably 2D because iirc there is only 1 pass through RGB camera
@@popiposo Yes, I just watched a video on the Quest Pro which definitely has 3D color pass through. Thanks for your answer.
Nothing really of both. The Pico 4 only has one color camera (instead of 2 like the Quest Pro), but the Pico 4 uses the other 4 black/white cameras and uses the information to turn the image material from the one color camera into a "3D" image. That's why you see this wobbling sometimes. It's really good from what I've heard, but real 3D is of course even better.
2D
Thank you very much for the fair and balanced review of this product. Very helpful and very thorough.
Could you please tell me what I'll be missing if I choose the 128 GB variant instead of the 256 GB one?
@voodoodevr please clarify. Is it difficult to use a 128 GB storage variant?
Can you test side quest on the pico 4? I would like to know if you can play attack on quest on the pico 4.
Hopefully VRChat comes to the pico 4 soon
Virtual Desktop is coming to the pico so VRChat will work fine.
@@dreamer5234 No I want it natively on the Pico 4
@@what-ifsage yeah, it would be nice
@Hello Yeah that's what I'm thinking
@Hello not really, it depends on what kind of VR SDK was used: there is OpenXR and Oculus/Meta proprietary SDKs. In case of the latter the app won't work on Pico (and I think it's true for most VR apps)
Just unboxed my Pico 4, and my first impression was... DISAPPOINTED 😭😭😭
The face cushion is so stiff, it pressed my face much more than the Quest 2, I didn't feel it light at all. It also left ugly marks on my face just after a few minutes of play. Terrible. 😣
There was no tracking at all until I set the boundaries, it made me feel dizzy.
The worst bug: if I shake my head quickly, the whole scene moves with my head like there was no tracking at all. This doesn't happen with the Quest 2. Very annoying...
The color pass-through is also very bad. Objects that are 1.5m tall were displayed as flat on the floor... The depth sensor is clearly missing, without that it's a mess.
Overall, the Pico 4 is a huge disappointment, I think I'll cry.... And will sell it as soon as I can. 😞
The Quest 2 facial cover was horrible as well. It´s a minor problem, a third-party facial cover will be on market soon.
Have you updated the firmware to the last version?
@@xalau5270 I didn't have a problem with the original Quest 2 facial cover at all... but yes, 3rd party covers are always better 🙂
@@xalau5270 yes, updated to Pico OS 5.1, and also updated the controllers 🙂
@@benkekovax and now it works fine?
Is it possible to get all the Dr Beef side quest ports working on the Pico 4??
not sure yet
@@voodoodevr-en If it is possible I would love for you to make a video about it. I'd imagine there would be many people curious about this.
Can you explain me why cover and gasket are so big, bulky and thick? They waste the advantage of pancake lenses. Pico4 looks as thick and big as the Q2 and not slim as it could be thanks to pancake lenses
Nope, way thinner, about half the quest 2 and much lighter
Anatomy, without a curved display/lenses that follow the shape of our head a massive face mask/light blocker will always be required.
@@acorgiwithacrown467 nope with the cover+gasket, quite the same bulkiness, you can see that from images and video posted on the web
@@Sofian375 Mmm.... So, what about the Quest Pro? The leaked images show a pancake headset with more small and slim cover/gasket. Mmm...
@@Sofian375 Mmm.... So, what about the Quest Pro? The leaked images show a pancake headset with more small and slim cover/gasket. Mmm...
14:18 this is what you call "i can see everything sharp" ?? does vr community have an extremely low standart for sharpness or something? that's blurry af!
the lenses pretty much zoom onto the displays, which makes the resolution look alot lower than it actually is, so yes, the standard for sharpness in vr is very low.
@@presidential_aids Not to mention that cameras always make monitors have more screen-door effect
Great review.
is the passthrough stereoscopic or mono 2d view
2D. It only has one color passthrough camera, so no stereoscopic.
@@zues287 do u have it ....someone was saying at a distance it looks 3d but close up things don't look well ....and someone was saying the distortion around the hands like what u have in the quest 2 happens when it's failing to composit a 3d picture ...it doesn't look like a fuzzy composit video from the black and white cameras and the color camera like the qpro
........some people r saying confusing stuff or don't know what they r talking about.....some people were saying stright out it's 2d
it has a mode where you can lie on your back? please tell us more.
😂
@@voodoodevr-en im serious. i always thought it would be nice to have the option to play a vr game while lying on back. basically make the walls the floor. Is this what that mode does?
@@iliketurtles7947 it is called the lazy mode
Thank you.
the brutal truth. thats a really good title!
Buenos dias VoodooDE, quisiera saber si los pico4 tienen el juego de poker.
Please watch a movie and compare to the Q2. Less SDE with P4, or similar?
it's less SDE with P4
can i play hitman vr not from steam??
no
@@voodoodevr-en ok 😭
@@voodoodevr-en and what about the quest 2?
@@maxking8146 what do you mean? Like do you mean stand alone on the headset and not on the pc? You need a pc to play hit man vr, it’s not on the quest or pico store.
@@beanslol1725 no i mean if i can play hitman on pc, but not from steam because i bought hitman not from steam
Pico 4 or pimax. Nice vid BTW 🤟
Pimax
@@voodoodevr-en niiccee
Can I transfer my bodycompat les mills game from meta quest 2
No.
nice work
SkyboxVR player is not in Pico 4 store , so sad
Not yet.
Thanx sir
It is sold out in all Europe
👍
All Pico 4 EU orders are delayed, currently.
Are you blasting a pulsed light infront of yourself while checking tracking.?
Looks like your standing infront of a TV or a monitor or maybe a spotlight?.. when looking at the glow in the Pico4 visir.? 20:00
How do you think inside out tracking works?
pulsed light from lighting equioment where most are using LEDs nowadays, and screens, sunlight and general light with a lot IR.. is contaminating a lot., as the inside-out-tracking is based on IR.
maybe not the ideal way to test IR tracking, if you actually have a spotlight flooding you in direct light.
I wil wait for valve deckard
you will have to wait at least 1 or 2 years more. and let's hope it doesn't get cancelled before that...
23:00
you need a bug killer (joking)
The interface looks like a direct rip from the quest 2 lol
Well... it's chinese product, what do you expect