Global NCAP - A Scam? | Talking Cars |
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- For most people, the crash ratings determine their car purchases. With changing times, safety is actually an important consideration and luckily for these buyers, we now have many cars that score well in crash-tests too. But can we really trust the Global NCAP results we see advertised with many cars? Who are these people? And how good are their tests?
Been driving, riding and racing for some 3 decades. Over the years, auto journalism and reviews have become biased paid marketing and propaganda stunts to bait and hoodwink vehicle buyers. Then comes you two, your reviews and debates are brilliant and genuine. Keep up the good work. Wish you all the best. 😊👍👌
Couldn't agree more!!!
Yes...keep going....
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Attention to detail
Very truee 💯
The tag line " Nerode , Nirbhayam , Nirantharam "is more suited to Talking cars . Today's Discussion proves that . Huge respect.. 👍👍
Alla pinne
Crct👌
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More than 90% of the comments here are in English, which means the content of this channel deserves more pan India attention.
Humble request to consider starting a new English channel podcast. Hats off to you guys.
Definitely. They have the potential to start a pan India channel.
Subtitiles idavum nallath
I would totally read the subtitles on this whole video if you can add them. This is something I want to learn more on.
“Nere choveeh” or “Parayathe vayyah” this should have been this channel’s name.
Truth-bombs!!
You guys are awesome :)
When the new Thar got it’s Global NCAP rating, I saw a lot of “news” articles highlighting the stark contrast with the Jeep Wrangler’s dismal rating. No one seemed to care that the Wranglers was a Euro NCAP rating. This would be perfect case study for Talking Cars to delve into. Look forward to your videos. Great stuff as always!
Wrangler body crumbled in frontal collision.
In euroncap
True, my cousin is a designer at Volvo in Sweden and he said that they only send their cars to EuroNCAP and IIHS for testing and that these two organizations conduct stringent and more realistic crash tests without biased results or favouritism towards any manufacturer.
5 സ്റ്റാർ കിട്ടുന്നത് തട്ടികൂട്ടുന്നത് ആണെകിൽ സീറോ സ്റ്റാർ എത്രത്തോളം ദുരന്തം ആയിരിക്കും 😑
Sathyam..mattu pramukha brands nte accident videos okke kandal..melal edukkan thonunilla
കോപ്പി അടിച്ചു പരീക്ഷയിൽ ഫുൾ മാർക്ക് ഒപ്പിച്ചവനെക്കാൾ ഭേദം കോപ്പി അടിക്കാതെ പാസ്സ്മാർക്ക് കിട്ടി കഷ്ടി ജയിച്ചവൻ തന്നെ.
@@jalexrosh കലക്കി
@@jalexrosh 🤣👍👍👍
Zero star oke adich elpikunnath ale..... Swift nte case oke kando .. gncap ntho udayp aanu thonnanu...
Truly eye opening. I am a Safari owner and have been bragging about the safety rating of TATA cars, which has extended even to my driving. Now I will remember to tone it down a bit. Truly eye opening video. Thanks for all your good work.
Thanks for taking it in the right sense Vishnu.
@@MG-fi9ir bro....pulli athinu ethire onnum paranjillalo. Aalu paranjille paranjath okke agree cheyyunu ennu. Whats the issue. Verithe enthina aalde nere choodavane.
@@neerajchelat894 Lavan vicharichu Vishnu ennayal Safari undennu kallam paranjath aanennu! Soooo!
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@@zenjm6496 pulli thanne parayatte
Nobody else explains these in their videos, massive respect to these guys ❤️
Most of them say what they are told to say. And some don't know.
@@mmthasleemexactly
Huge shoutout for taking this head on! We really needed such unbiased auto journalism that’s powered by nothing other than the love for cars! 👍🏼
A topic nobody dives deep into. Good job indeed guys! ❤️ A mix of Safety ratings + gimmicky marketing + swadeshi sentiment trying to win over gullible car buyers. Watching this while I am in the roadtrip between blr-mum-blr and seeing a lot of stupid driving on the highways. Safety ratings are good but the greatest safety equipment is the driver him/her-self. Can you guys do some content on safe highway driving /driving etiquettes/tips for safe and efficient driving etc - would be a useful watch.
Well, if you want to, there are lots of videos on RUclips. If really helps.
@@siddharthb04 ofcourse, no dearth of stuff on YT on any topic. point being watching it in 'talking cars' style.
Really an eye opener for the people who blindly buy the cars by seeing safety ratings. Thanks folks
Really !! Saw many buying those "safest" just with that tagline
അത് എന്താ tata മഹീന്ദ്ര മാത്രം ആണോ Gncap കൊടുക്കാൻ കാശ് ഒള്ളു? Maruthi അല്ലെ ഇന്ത്യയിലെ ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ കാർ വിൽക്കുന്ന കമ്പനി.. അവർക്ക് പറ്റില്ലേ ഇത്തിരി കാശ് ഇറക്കി Gncap കൊണ്ട് safest car എന്ന് പറയിപ്പിക്കാൻ.. ആരെങ്കിലും എന്ത് video ഇട്ടാലും തൊണ്ട തൊടാതെ അത് അങ്ങ് വിഴുങ്ങും.. അതല്ലേ മലയാളിയുടെ ഒരു speciality.
@@EvidenceBased_Mallu Sathyam..
Tata cars vs maruti de accident okke onnu youtube il tappu..
Appo ariyam.. maruti okke tin factory aanennu
@@EvidenceBased_Mallu മാരുതിക്കു അങ്ങനെ ചെയ്യേണ്ടേ കാര്യമില്ല. അവർക്ക് വണ്ടി ആവശ്യത്തിനു വിൽക്കാൻ പോലും പറ്റുന്നില്ല. ഇൻഡ്യയിൽ ടോപ്പ് 10 sellersൽ എത്ര മാരുതി ഉണ്ട് എന്ന് നോക്കുക. ഡിസംബർ ടോപ്പ് 10 സെയിൽസ് ചാർട്ടും കൂടി ആ കൂടെ എടുത്തു നോക്കിക്കോ.
@@vikaspv9542 ടാറ്റ 60ൽ പോയി ഇടിച്ച ഫോട്ടോ എടുത്തു 100ൽ പോയി ഇടിച്ചു എന്നു പ്രോപകണ്ട ഇറക്കും. മാരുതി 80ൽ പോയി ഇടിച്ചത് 40ൽ എന്നും ഇടും. പിന്നെ ഉള്ള പരിപാടി രണ്ടു വ്യത്യസ്ത ചിത്രങ്ങൾ എടുത്തു അതു മാരുതിയും ടാറ്റയും തമ്മിൽ ഇടിച്ചതാണ് എന്നും പറയും. അതൊക്കെ വിശ്വസിക്കാൻ കുറെ ആളുകളും. 😁
നിങ്ങൾ വണ്ടി കാര്യത്തിൽ പുലികൾ ആണ് എന്ന് അറിയാമരുന്നു പക്ഷെ ധൈര്യത്തിന്റെ കാര്യത്തിൽ രണ്ടു സിംഹങ്ങൾ ആണ് എന്ന് ഇന്നാണ് മനസ്സിൽ ആയത്. കിടു....... 👍🏾
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@@TalkingCars Tata Nexon nte episode undo
You guys should definitely explain the technicalities related to crash testing because we all deserve safer cars. What I believe you should try to educate the audience about the importance of safer cars and safe driving practises and principles. I and my son have become regular viewers of your videos and we both love the loads of information that you give us.
This vedio is really disappointing atleast they should have thought about number death in india due to unsafe vehicles
As per GNCAP, the choosing of the variant is based on
1. If the safety systems are not standard across the range, they pick the base model
2. If safety systems are standard across the range, they pick the heaviest model (full-option) for maximum impact.
3. If a number of base models have standard safety features, they pick the heaviest of them all
4. If a number of base models have standard safety features, they pick the one with an alloy wheel, as alloys crack under less load, sending more impact to the body (Where they want to test)
Of course, the points highlighted in this video are quite valid. I am not sure why XUV700 AX7L was used for side-impact test. Thar AX though was discontinued before the tests so the LX they selected for the test is the heaviest variant with alloys.
@Aswin Biju Volvo do advertise like that
@Aswin Biju Dude. That vehicle is registered in Feb. Also, it okay for manufacturers to create a special edition (one-off) for a specific purpose. Suzuki used to sell Gypsys for Armed forces long after it was discontinued.
You cannot buy a Thar AX from a showroom now. It's only AX(O) & LX. This one vehicle cannot nullify the ratings completely.
@Aswin Biju It is not available for Public. You can't buy a Thar AX now. Only the company can specially make one if they deem fit.
@@fazeenabdeen Have you seen Thar's July 2021 pricing sheet? Maruti Suzuki sells Gypsy to the Indian army on special order, Both cases are different. Moreover, rating of Thar came in November 25th 2020 and Ax removed from website on 9th November 2020. They send Thar for crash test maybe a month or two, by the time they got to know that Ax vaients won't score the same so they discontinued. But when they send Thar to crash test, Ax varient is still available. so it is clear that they manipulate this to get better results in crash tests.
@@berlins5242 Buddy, crash test results matter only when people use them as a decision making parameter to buy a vehicle.
So it doesn't matter if the variant was available a few months ago. It only matters if the unsafe variant is available for the public to buy when the crash results are out.
In this case, the AX had long died when GNCAP announced the results. Now, I believe that you're smart enough to connect the dots.
I just wish if this video would have been in English so that people from all parts of india would have understood what they were saying.... I mean its such a important topic and i havent seen any RUclipsrs covering it except for these guys. Absolutely spot on explanation!!!
Mee too......
Sathyam.
Yess definitley... The comment sections of north indians vedios are so toxic
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Yeah.. enable auto English subtitles atleast
Huge respect to you guys for selecting this topic 👍🏻
Few weeks back, I gave this video link to a fellow who was bragging "safety! Safety! Safety!" in Tata/Mahindra cars. Managed to shut him up.😂.
But seriously, TC, auto journalism at its peak.👌👌
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1. In India we have a regulatory board called ARAI which gives authority to sell vehicles in India based on numerous tests among which full vehicle crash tests are a part. However, most vehicles pass these tests(only vehicles passing this can be sold on road). Firms like Tata and MAHINDRA are committed to safety. And hence, they take their vehicle to a more stringent test condition. GNCAP offers that stringent condition.
We need not take it to European NCAP or the similar because we don't sell cars there.
2. As far as choice of cars is concerned, GNCAP chooses base model if safety features are standard across all models. If not vehicle with highest weight is taken which sometimes is the premium model.
3. For side test, the side if impact is chosen based in sole discretion if GNCAP. And this is based on worst side structures.
4. GNCAP doesn't take vehicles that are sold in Europe because they anyways meet ENCAP requirements which implies frontal and side crash safety as well(GNCAP req).
5. About Global NCAP, it is a not for profit organization. How does it make money? They don't charge money if they decide to choose the vehicle after sales have begun. However, if the company decides to give their vehicle to test voluntarily, there is a significant fee. This usually happens at beginning of production stage. This is one of the modes of making money.
In a nutshell, there is no reason to believe it as a scam. It's a program to evaluate safety of a particular vehicle based on some crash load cases which are much stringent than load cases by our regulatory requirement. It is applicable for Indian and African New cars primarily because we are a developing country. Also claiming it as Indias safest car is correct. Because other so called 'assumed safe cars(especially luxury cars)' are not Indias car. They are European/other nations cars sold in India. There is no need to explicitly state as Indias safest produced car. Indias safest car is perfect term.
As commitment to safety increases some features will become standard/'must have' which will benefit suppliers and the committed firms.
For a country like India GNCAP is the most reliable safety rating agency at the moment and there exists no more stringent regulation applicable for India. Pls note that EuroNCAP etc are applicable if the vehicle is intented to be sold in respective continents. Doing an ENCAP test based without intent to be sold in Europe is simply a waste of money for indian manufacturers.
@@pranavp386 thar side facing varients were discontinued before the release of ratings. Gncap clearly mentioned the rating is valid only to 4 seater.
Regarding xuv700, the rolling over video was also released by gncap. Not by the spy cam of any others
How heavier car is the weakest? What if car manufacturers uses additional material for structural stability and gains weight. Rolling over is not a issue for gncap. So no problem. All set. Weak model will also get same rating.
@@pranavp386 isn't that video the extension of video that gncap took? It's not spy video right
@@nevlinejose2570 heavier model will have more inertia, so more impact in crash. Also in 99% cases the body composition and structure remains same across variants. In sunroof varients extra strength is given to roof to incorporate it, but no diffrence in crumblezone.
Rolling over : it's a high ground clearance car
@@pranavp386 👍
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cheriya oru karachil mukalil vannittund 😂
Kudos to you guys, takes a lotta guts speaking the truth especially about such big organizations.
"Decent dose of reality" That's what we expect from a review/discussion, and you guys deliver it 😀👌
I think this is the best episode till date from you guys! Informative, eye opener and transparent. Way to go…
One of my friend’s VW Vento met with an unfortunate accident couple of years back. The car lost control and crashed into a compound wall. Surprisingly the airbag didn’t go off (it should’ve as the cars front end was damaged badly). The guys at VW said “if the car had crashed perpendicular to the wall the airbag would’ve been deployed”
Along-with crash test we need classes to learn how to crash a car properly to engage all the safety features😂😂
Anything happened to the driver ?
Its actually true .. because it depends how the sensors are fitted and calibrated during testing. Our current technology only permits that much but it's improving day by day.. they can only cover most likely test scenarious all permutations and combinations of crashing cannot be tested and verified!! :)
It is mentioned in most car user manuals (as in my Ford's).Crashing onto a narrow pillar or tree won't activate the sensors..
I'm an ex INRC rallyist, yes seriously there are things to learn even about crashing. Knowledge of things helps better than any star rating.
How dare you crash improperly
ഇത്രയും സിംപിൾ ആയ ടെസ്റ്റിൽ പൂജ്യം വാങ്ങിയ പ്രമുഖ കമ്പനികളെ സമ്മതിക്കണം 😀
It's moreover a biased test
അത് പൊളിച്ചു. എന്തെങ്കിലും കാര്യം കണ്ട് 5 star കൊടുക്കുന്നുണ്ടെങ്കിൽ എന്തുകൊണ്ട് മറ്റുള്ളവർക്ക് വാങ്ങിക്കൂടാ? ചില കമ്പനികൾക്ക് വഴിയേ പോകുന്നവർ 5 star കൊടുക്കുന്നു. അതിനെ വിശ്വസിക്കാൻ ബുദ്ധിമുട്ട് ഉള്ളവർ euro ncap ൽ test നടത്തി ഇതാണ് ശരിയെന്ന് തെളിയിക്കേണ്ട? Customers ന് വേണ്ടത് safty അല്ലെ? വഴിയേ പോകുന്നവർ കൊടുക്കുന്ന star rating better than പപ്പടാസ്
Definitely required another video about Euro NCAP and other safety tests conducted around the world, as usual a technical video😎.
You guys are really an eye opener 🔥
There are various categories of test in medical device industry as safety is of paramount importance.
1. In silico or computer simulation
2. In vitro r lab tests
3. In vivo r animal studies
4. Clinical trials
Drawing an analogy, i doubt the current gncap completely address all potential failure modes in crash. The number of failure modes investigated, number of samples per endpoints tested etc all are doubtful.
So as per my opiniom, just have to say gncap qualified. Not as safer or safest etc.
Second, even to say say qualified, i not sure gncap is a Federal funded regulatory agency.
But, based on the observations from field accidents, i can be seen that certain foreign cars split into two pieces. Whereas some of the Indian origin doing good. So irrespective of the certifying agency, based on proven examples and manufactures choose a good car.
തകർത്തു മക്കളെ 🥳🥳🥳 ശരിക്കും ഗ്ലോബൽ ncap എന്നും പറഞ്ഞു നമ്മൾ ഇന്ത്യൻ കസ്റ്റമേഴ്സിനെ exploit ചെയ്യുന്നത് കൂടി കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്ന ഈ കാലത്ത് വളരെ അധികം പ്രസക്തി ഉണ്ട് നിങ്ങളുടെ ഈ വിഡിയോക്ക്.. നന്ദി 🙏🙏
I thought GNCAP was associated to Euro NCAP, and there are plenty of other NCAP's like Latin, Australian, ASEAN.. we need a detailed video on this topic. Thank you a Ton for clearing my misconception.
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I thought the same...
You guys must start a channel in English. The quality of the content and the point you guys brought to the table is outstanding. You guys have the potential to become the trailblazers of different genres in the automobile industry which is 'നേരോടെ നിർഭയം നിരന്തരം' .
Keep it coming ❤
Maruti fan bois after watching this video കോടി പുണ്യം ആണ് നിങ്ങൾ 😂 ഇത്രയും കാലം പാവങ്ങൾ airൽ ആരുന്നു 🤣
Doesn't make their cars safer .
Even euro ncap or latin ncap results even with stronger and better features in international market also met with poor ratings .
ആ Mahindra XUV700 ൻറെ Side Crash ടെസ്റ്റിൽ അത് റോൾ ചെയ്ത ഭാഗം GNCAP വിഡിയോയിൽ നിന്ന് എഡിറ്റ് ചെയ്ത് മാറ്റിയത് മുതൽ എനിക്ക് ചില സംശയങ്ങളുണ്ട്. എന്തായാലും ഈ വിഷയത്തിൽ വീഡിയോ ഉണ്ടാക്കിയതിന് നന്ദി. ഇനി വീഡിയോ കാണട്ടെ.
അങ്ങനൊരു മലയാളം കമന്റ് കണ്ടു 🕺😅
@@sethuramans1072 മൊബൈലിൽ മലയാളത്തിൽ ടൈപ്പ് ചെയ്തു വരുമ്പോഴേക്കും ഒരു നേരമാവും ബ്രോ. ഞാൻ കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറിൽ ഗൂഗിൾ transliterate ഒക്കെ ഉപയോഗിച്ച് ടൈപ്പ് ചെയ്തത് കൊണ്ടാണ് മലയാളത്തിൽ ആക്കിയത്. മൊബൈലിൽ ആണ് കണ്ടതെങ്കിൽ ഞാനും comment ഇംഗ്ലീഷിൽ ആക്കിയേനെ.
Reality overload 😅. An eye opener. Thank you for the info.
I’m a Senior Citizen and am glad that youngsters like you have started seeing light.Improvise seriously and create inroads into IPL,CCL (read laundering).Also into various awards and accolades .It would also be interesting to look into the current status of one of the pioneers like ISO 9001 certification
This video is very informative and needs to reach a very wide audience especially to those who (as mentioned in the video) drive "safe" cars as if they were indestructible, being a danger to others on the road. Will be looking forward to a detailed video explaining what NCAP is. It's actually about time we had our own NCAP. If the govt really wants to make safer cars for India I hope it will be a reality soon...
Terrible mahn..
Ningalu..Nexon,Tiago..enne cars nte accident videos kaanu..appo manasilavum athinte saftey okke..kidu aanu
Mattu chila pramugha brands okke..papadam pole aanu..podiyunney
One of the best Episode Ever 👌👌
Built Like a tank എന്നും പറഞ്ഞു റോഡിൽ പറക്കുന്ന Tata മുതലാളിമാർക്കും Online Fans ഇനും ഉള്ള ഒരു shock treatment 👌👌 🤩
Desh ka loha hai bhai😂😂😂
Mashe avar paranjathu testing companye kuruchanu.. the test under those speed limits still holds good. Thing is it can be made more transparent and more tests can be fone before certifying. They doesn't mean to say Tata cars r not safe. They're safer than many other cars but there are many more premium brands available with better safety from better agencies.
@@febinfrancis1749 watch whole video bro Tata till never did crash test for harrier and safari then how we can say they are safer than other brands
EURO NCAP നെ അപേക്ഷിച്ചു ഗ്ലോബൽ NCAP നു ള്ള ചില പോരായ്മകൾ ആണ് ഈ വീഡിയോ യിൽ. നോക്കണ്ട കാര്യം. ഗ്ലോബൽ NCAP 5 സ്റ്റാർ EURO NCAP ന്റെ അത്രയും പോരാ എന്നാണ് വീഡിയോ മൊത്തം കണ്ടാൽ മനസിലാകുവ. അല്ലാതെ ഗ്ലോബൽ NCAP ഇൽ 2 സ്റ്റാർ ഉം 3 സ്റ്റാർ ഉം കിട്ടിയ മുതൽ ഒക്കെ 5 ഇൽ ഉം മുകളിൽ ആണെന്നല്ല .മൂക്കില്ല രാജ്യത്തെ മുറിമൂക്കൻ രാജാവ് പോലെ. 5 സ്റ്റാർ കിട്ടിയത് അത്ര മികച്ചതല്ലെങ്കിൽ പിന്നെ 2 സ്റ്റാർ കിട്ടിയതിന്റെ കാര്യം പ്രത്യേകിച്ച് പറയണ്ട കാര്യം ഇല്ലല്ലോ .
oro cars ntem real life accidents pic nokkiyal thanne ariyam atleast it has some quality
gncap trustable ano illiyo ennathe vare karyam
വളരെ നല്ല എപ്പിസോഡ്. ഈ അടുത്ത് എന്റെ ഫ്രണ്ട് ഒരു ന്യൂ wagon r എടുത്തു. അത് കണ്ടിട്ട് ഒരാൾ അവനോടു എന്തിനാ സെയ്ഫ്റ്റി ഇല്ലാത്ത wagon r എടുത്തത് tiago എടുത്താൽ പോരായിരുന്നോ എന്ന് ചോദിച്ചു. അവനു വളരെ വിഷമമായി.ഈ എപ്പിസോഡ് അവനും കണ്ടു. ഹാപ്പി ആയി. Thank you talking cars team. 👏
Ningalkku ee vdo kanditt athano manasilaye , 😁😁😁
Ivar parayunnath maruthi safe vehicles aanu ennu alla athe pole tata mahindra ennivar mosham aanennum avar ee rating katti pattikkunnath anennum ennalla , gncap nu negatuves um limitation undenna ,
Maruthi vehicles except brezza gncap test ayachal nalla rating onnum kittan ponilla
@@aswanthb6629 ee video kandittu Maruti safe car aanenna palarkkum manassilayadhu😐
ഇപ്പോ ഈ വീഡിയോ മാരുതി സുസുക്കിയുടെ sales promotion tool ആയി ചില dealership ഉപയോഗിച്ച് തുടങ്ങിയിട്ടുണ്ട്.... 👍👍👍
Euro ncap or latin ncap results of marthi too shows the fragile body structure
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30 minutes alla 1½ hour video kandalum ath worth aann ennullathaan ningade prathyekatha...
Huge Respect to these guys...✨💯🥳
പൊളിച്ചു മക്കളേ, praise your guts. You people teaches how an auto journalist should be.... Hearty congrats 😍🥰🤩😘
Didn't knew GNCAP was for India and Africa only. Good information 👍
People becoming conscious about safety ratings is a good thing. GNCAP is a big thing because Bharat NCAP/BNVSAP isn't in place yet. In the absence of Government regulations, some manufacturers are using GNCAP ratings as a marketing tool. Thank you for educating everyone on GNCAP.
The GNCAP may not be the last word in safety. That said, it doesn't make a car that scores lower on their ratings safer than ones that score higher on the same ratings.
Very valid point about people who drive irresponsibly just because their cars have a higher GNCAP rating. They'll learn their lesson eventually, hopefully without hurting themselves or others 🤞
Yes .even those vw or some german brands bully others too . that seems to have left some people eye .
കണ്ണൂര് ഒക്കെ innova യിൽ ആളു വരും എന്ന് പറയാറുണ്ട്. നിങ്ങടെ വീട്ടിൽ ഇന്ന് safari യിൽ വരാൻ സാധ്യത ഉണ്ട്
Brilliant! To Mahindra’s credit though, they stopped the Thar 6 seater after the Global NCAP rating. Only the AX Opt is available now, which is a 4 seater.
Yeah, guess they missed that. Except for some initial models destined for northeast, they had stopped the base models and side facing seats just before the test.
LX not AX anymore .
I read that Mahindra xuv500 having 4star in encap aswell as asean.
@Aswin Biju that does look like a 6 seater.
Very interesting topic. A car from a global manufacturer hit on a tree while driving. The air bag did not open due to the impact. The owner filed a case , but the verdict of the case was against the owner, reason being the car was not having necessary speed for the air bags to open . Really an eye openeing topic. This like a certificate you get while you purchase a gem .Now there are government organizations who certify the authenticity of the gem . So jewlleries are giving certificates from govt organizations instead of global brands. This should happen for the cars too. Drive safely even if you have a 5plus star rating . Expecting similar videos from you guys !
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This is by far the most entertaining automotive channel that I've come across. It's insightful, humorous and honest. Looking forward to great content.
It's all about the energy of impact. Reduce speed by 25 % and your impact energy comes down by 40%. A good brake and adequate gap between vehicles ensures that the energy of impact is minimal. Which is why we say " SPEED KILLS" . Unfortunately we focus on the peripherals and ignore the basics.
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Yes bro you are right if we need to be safe all the time we should buy a Tank😂😂 its all depends on us we should be careful on the road.
people troll Maruti cars but especially in india if we go out on the road we can see Maruti cars ruling the road than other companies it's all depends on the performance, milage and the service
Dedicated to Tata fanatics
I have been trying to convince people on the irrelevant logic… NCAP is just a standard which has its own criteria of validation. Thanks for detailing with data sheet
Without criteria nothing works.You need to know what it is?
@@jdeep0709 yup
Defining a global criteria will not work for all vehicles
It need to be redefined... Re-purpose whole testing model. As spoken regarding the THAR or any side seater has to follow a different workflow.
Criteria needs many parameters like Tyre, max speed for a vehicle etc etc.
Very insightful. You guys are a new breed of “investigative automobile journalists”. Tbh, up until this episode, I used to think Global NCAP is the big daddy of Euro NCAP. It is a problem that manufacturers look at safety as some clever marketing gimmick instead of considering it as something that they owe their customers. Also, trying to manipulate data and tricking customers to think a certain way by withholding information… Shameful.
#pleaseshowdata
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Njn ningalude ella videosum kaanarundu
@@athulkrishnaathul9414 thankyou 😃
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If I had an option to subscribe to just one channel in the entire yt, i would choose you guys no questions asked. I truly appreciate the exquisite content you bring out for us. Thanks JD and Vivek.
I havebeen watching all your vedios and a subscriber too..and now i realising you havnt told anything about safety ratings in all your reviews which all other international automotive journalist do...but the indian reviewers do 🤔..which shows theres nothing to do with this rating...my god the knowledge you guys process is immemence..🙏🙏🙏
This is real auto journalism.. Kudos to you guys for selecting this topic!
Wow guys. Thank you for speaking out loud. I've been saying this for years to anyone who told me abot the Global NCAP ratings, and after a point I thought I was just being stupid. thank you so much for shedding some light on this with actual facts! Thank you, and keep up the good work, speaking out against the actual scams
Yes I remember hearing somewhere that someone crashed a car with airbag but it didn't get activated. Chodichappo sales man parayuva "Ath sir sherikkum idikaathadukonda" 😂😂
That requires a speed and sensors are placed at a position to get activated only at a higher impact to avoid unwanted expense on airbag replacements.
And you two have become the nightmare of all “Udayippans” in the industry!!! Kudos Bros👏🏻 Keep Going 😎💚
Miss universe...miss Pluto.. 😂u guys r d best in what you do. Full support for the job. CUP mukyam bigileee....
But still we are seeing many real world situations where tatas survive a crash better than Maruti. So somthing is better than nothing, right,? Or am i missing something here?
what a perfect timing!! innu kude enne apamaanich vitte ullu (i'm a baleno owner), global ncap safety illennokke paranju, vandi idichal chathu povum ennoke paranju. Forwarded this video to them.
Igane hurt chyunath avark oru tharam happiness anu , avark annakil kodukan olla video thannanu ith😆
But avark at manasilakan ulla bodam kanilao apo avar parayum ivar marutide kain cash vangit parayunnatan en.
മാരുതിയുടെ വണ്ടി എനിക്ക് ഇഷ്ട്ടം അല്ല....but ഇപ്പോൾ കാണുന്ന ഒരു main പ്രോബ്ലം ആണ് gncap പറഞ്ഞു കൊണ്ടുള്ള കളിയാക്കൽ
@@sufaid5696 Because at matram paranje kaliyakan patu Engine o reliabilityo entelm marutide adt etuvo atan
@Aswin Biju Yes Brezza 4 star und .
Nexon വഴിയിൽ കിടന്നാലും ആ saftey അങ്ങ് ഉപയോഗിക്കും.. JD പറയുന്നത് ഞാൻ ഓർക്കുന്നു.. 😂
ഈ പറയുന്ന കട്ട degrading നടന്നിട്ടും Nexon കേരളത്തിൽ ടോപ്പ് ലെവൽ sales നടത്തുന്നുണ്ടെങ്കിൽ Nexon നിൽ ഈ പറയുന്ന അത്ര complaint ഒട്ടും ഇല്ല എന്നു തന്നെയല്ലേ അർത്ഥം.
ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നെങ്കിൽ ആ വണ്ടി കട്ട ഫ്ലോപ്പ് ആയേനെ. കാരണം അത്ര മാത്രം പല ബ്രാൻഡുകൾ വളഞ്ഞിട്ട് degrading നടന്നിട്ടുണ്ട് ആ വണ്ടിക്ക്.
Degrading ചെയ്യാൻ കാരണം ഉണ്ട്.. Ee segment l വേറെ വണ്ടി ഇല്ലാ..
@@subahans3355 5 star safety ഉള്ള XUV300 ഉണ്ട് ആ സെഗ്മെന്റിൽ
@@JayJay-zd6qy lol. Then what about Brezza? There's a massive PR work happening social media to degrade MS cars yet, Brezza gives others run for their money with just 1engine option. That's the power of Strong product with brand backup. Brezza is far ahead interms of reliability, Nexon is just nothing with pathetic engines and unreliable mechanicals.
@@berlins5242 Indians പൊതുവേ technical research ചെയ്യുന്നവർ അല്ല. Outdated വണ്ടിയാണ് ബ്രെസ. മാരുതി ആയ കൊണ്ട് കണ്ണും പൂട്ടി ജനങ്ങൾ എടുക്കുന്നു.
Nexon ന്റെ എഞ്ചിൻ പോരാ എന്നൊക്കെ തള്ളി മറിക്കാം. Especially Diesel engine ഒന്ന് Sports mode ൽ ഓടിച്ചു നോക്കണം. 🔥 Pilot on Wheels ന്റെ review യിൽ പറയുന്നുണ്ട്.
Nexon ആയിട്ട് പെർഫോമൻസിൽ compare പോലും ചെയ്യാൻ പറ്റില്ല ബ്രെസ.
Both of you please continue doing more of such videos. Over the time there is a trust building up between you and us, I sincerely hope it stays like this forever. So even though you may face problems from companies for opening up truth like this, all I have to say is that our support will always be there. Keep going 🔥💯
അപ്പൊ റ്റാറ്റാ കാർ സേഫ് അല്ലെ 😔
മാരുതി എല്ലാവരും കരുതുന്ന പോലെ unsafe അല്ലെ?
എന്താണാവോ സത്യാവസ്ഥ.
Also Volkswagen were the first to promote gncap. They had advertisements in newspapers as the safest premium hatchback. 😂
Tata or Mahindra അല്ല
Ncap അണ് വില്ലൻ.
Ee topic oru forum il vannappozhe orappichu ivide discuss cheyyumennu.. 🤩 Thanks for the feature! 😃👍
32 minutes was very useful This is the best knowledge about these fake safety you guys are legend do more content like these
Thanks.. I thought Global NCAp is the new Child of Euro NCAp.... Now u people clears this mystery for may like me... ❤
As usual a nice topic and discussion 👌 as you said the beauty pageant as an example, the safety rating (whether it is reliable or not) brings better safty features in our cars or the Indian car manufacturers forced to improv safely (dont forget Ambassador and Premier Padmini had good build quality). on the other hands TATA and Mahendra showed good build quality during accidents compared to our common Japanese cars. So it shows the ratings has some facts. However, now we start getting better products, it is really good for the people who spend their hard earned money.🙏
loved the discussion, especially the way of presentation taking care of the fine line that separates intelligent deduction from conspiracy theories. Looking forward to see more content like this
That's a great discussion. 👍
Xuv 300 side impact on the left- is it because Ssangyong Tivoli is a left hand driven car?
Such an good observation man.
Still ..now it's a right hand driven vehicle,so they have to do it on the right side .
@@cg3179 Absolutely Yes. Perhaps thay have not gone the right way.
Tivoli is a different car and even the chassis is considerably modified in case of 300. So this wont automatically mean anything for tivoli
NCAPs often switch sides to prevent the manufacturer from reinforcing just the one side. Latin Ncap does it very often and sometimes tests both sides.
Automobile blogs have reached a new level now. These guys have set a new bench mark. Thanks for doing this. We love you both.
വേറെ ആരും തന്നെ കാണിക്കാത്ത ധൈര്യം സമ്മതിച്ചു .......... ഈ പറഞ്ഞ കാര്യങ്ങള് എല്ലാം നോക്കിയാൽ ഒരു കാര്യം മനസ്സിലാകും കമ്പനികളും സർക്കാരും ചേർന്ന് സാധാരണ ജനങ്ങളുടെ ജീവൻ വെച്ച് നടത്തുന്ന നാടകം ആണ് ഇതെല്ലാം ......... പണ്ട് കാലത്ത് ഉണ്ടായിരുന്ന വണ്ടികൾ നമ്മള് ഇപ്പോളും ഉപയോഗിച്ചിരുന്നു അത് ഇല്ലാതെ അക്കാൻ ആണ് പുതിയ നിയമങ്ങൾ പോലും ഇപ്പോള് ഉണ്ടാക്കിയത് എന്ന് തോന്നുന്നു.........
Innu randu perum nalla vibeil aanello.🤩
This is absolutely good. You guys have the guts to say it. Keep it up. 👏👏👏
ഒരുപാട് സംശയങ്ങൾ തീർക്കാൻ പറ്റുന്ന അവതരണം 🥰❤💪
I started watching this channel approximately before 3 weeks,but now this is my favourite channel
Love you guys
I believe this Channel is going to revolutionise 🚘 Automotive Journalism from consumer stand point. !!
standardizing abs n airbags was the only benefit, and i too had the same doubt about harrier, hector, etc.. And yes Latin ncap, euro ncap, wakhanda ncap എല്ലാം ഓരോ പ്ലേറ്റ് പോരട്ടെ
EURO NCAP government approved aanu.
എന്ത് കൊണ്ട് ഈ കള്ള സിർട്ടിഫിക്കറ്റ് മാരുതി പോലെ കമ്പനികൾക്ക് നേടാൻ കഴിയുന്നില്ല.. ഗ്ലോബൽ N. ക്യാപിനു ക്യാഷ് ആണ് ലക്ഷ്യമെങ്കിൽ മാരുതിയ്ക്ക് ക്യാഷ് ഇല്ലേ കൈക്കൂലി കൊടുക്കാൻ.. ബിൾക്വൊളിറ്റി മെച്ച പെടുത്താൻ ടാറ്റയും മഹിന്ദ്രയുമൊക്കെ ശ്രമിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ട് എന്നത് ഉറപ്പാണ്.. മാരുതി അതിനു തയാറല്ല അതാണ് കാര്യം. മാരുതി യൂറോ Ncap. നേടിട്ടു വരട്ടെ അതല്ലേ ഹീറോയിസം.. 🤗
Harrier nte GNCAP evide ?
Is harrier is a tin can compared to Punch 😂😂😂😂😂?
@@drivingincidents4540 you're missing the point, Tata/Mahindra ne mock cheyan alla eee video kondu udesichathu but net result comments il athaayipooyi. What he asked is a genuine question. VW inu 0 star kitti defame aayappo avar car modify cheyd retest cheyipichu fame thirichu pidichu..?? Then why can't Maruti do so ennahnu pulli chodichathu....
ഇങ്ങനുള്ള കാര്യങ്ങൾ വളരെ detail ആയി നിങ്ങൾ മനസ്സിലാക്കി തരുന്നു 🔥🔥ശെരിക്കും ഇതിലൊക്കെ ഞാനും വിശ്വസിച്ചിരുന്നു പക്ഷെ നിങ്ങൾ പറഞ്ഞത് കേട്ടപ്പോൾ മനസ്സിലായി എല്ലാ ഇന്ത്യക്കാരെ പോലെ ഞാനും വീണ്ടും പറ്റിക്കപെട്ടപോലായി 😂
ഒരു വിധത്തിൽ globel NCAP വിശ്വസിക്കാം കാരണം ഇന്ത്യയിൽ നടക്കുന്ന ലൈവ് അപകടങ്ങൾ കണ്ടാൽ മനസ്സിലാകും..TATa വണ്ടികൾ എത്ര safe ആണ് എന്ന്..
സ്റ്റാർ.....പരസ്യം.....not believable..... പേരിൽ മാത്രമേ global ഉള്ളൂ 😁... 🙏
ഇത്രയും anomaly ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നോ GNCAPil 🙄🙄
എന്റെ ഒരു doubt ആയിരുന്നു 5lakh ന്റെ punch, വോൾവോ xc90 എല്ലാത്തിനും 5star safety.
അങ്ങനെ എങ്കിൽ volvoku 7star കൊടുക്കണ്ടേയ്
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If they could understand this episode they would be really sad(teen ka dabba, desh ka loha, vocal for local, prateek singh, nikhil rana)
By the by... How can automotive channels be so unbiased like talking cars.... May be our stereotypic mindsets made us think so...
There is another idiot girl in youtube having channel 'her garage'..Basically what she does is highlight the safety thing of maruti in her reviews and openly trolls maruti cars as tin cans and claims tata cars the best in India in every aspects..
@Aswin Bijutata fans have no right to troll maruti based on star rating certified by an organisation whose credibility is still in question just what talking cars said in the video.... Maruti as a brand was started in 1983 to fulfill the wish of late Sanjay gandhi to provide cheap,reliable,fuel efficient cars for the middle class public of a developing India..In a country that still has just 22 cars for 1000 persons its maruti that helped the cost conscious indian public to own an affordable and reliable car.. The top priority of the brand continues to be mileage while providing cheap service and ownership.Thats why Maruti focusing on fuel efficiency rather than gimmicks.Maruti doesnt boast the safety of their cars on advertisements..brezza is 4 star rated while s cross is 5 star rated in euro ncap ..Most maruti cars are exported as well.. Maruti even launched cars like kizashi that scored top safety points in nhtsa crash tests back in 2011..But they never boasted the cars safety like tata does.They never troll other brands like tata on social media..Meanwhile tata who sells safety still havent got time to crash test their premium cars like harrier,hexa and safari..Seems like tata has no value for the lives of their premium customers..
@@vishnupillai300 nte ponno... Her garage.. Kandirunnu.. 😞😞ratan tata de makalaano enn polum enik samsayam und
ബോണറ്റ് ഒന്ന് തുറക്കുക പോലും ഇല്ല.(engine ഒക്കെ ആർക്ക് വേണം ). പക്ഷെ door ന്റെ ഖനം നോക്കും, അടിച്ചു നോക്കും,ചവിട്ടി നോക്കും എന്നിട്ട് review ചെയ്തു എന്ന് പറയും..
@Aswin Biju ee GNCAP safety thanne alle? INCAP varatte
വളരെ നല്ല വീഡിയോ. ഇടയ്ക്കിടെ നിങ്ങളുടെ ചില വീഡിയോകൾ ശ്രദ്ധിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ടെങ്കിലും വളരെ അടുത്താണ് നിങ്ങളുടെ വീഡിയോകൾ സ്ഥിരമായി കാണാന് തുടങ്ങിയത്.
5 സ്റ്റാർ സേഫ്റ്റി എന്ന് വല്ലാത്ത ഹൈപ്പ് കാണാന് തുടങ്ങിയ സമയത്ത് തോന്നിയ ഒരു സംശയമാണ് എന്തുകൊണ്ട് ചുരുക്കം ചില കാർ നിര്മ്മാതാക്കള് മാത്രം ഇതിന് ഇത്ര പ്രാധാന്യം കൊടുക്കുന്നു എന്നത്. Volkswagen എന്ന ഏറ്റവും സേഫ് ആയ കാറുകള് ഉണ്ടാക്കുന്ന നിര്മ്മാതാവിന് ഇതിനെപ്പറ്റി ഒരു botheration ഉം ഇല്ലല്ലോ എന്ന് ചിന്തിച്ചു. ഇന്ന് അതിനുള്ള മറുപടി കിട്ടി. ഇത് കണ്ടുകൊണ്ടിരിക്കുമ്പോൾ JD Power നെപ്പറ്റി comment ഇടണമെന്ന് ചിന്തിച്ചു. അപ്പോൾ അതിനെപ്പറ്റിയും നിങ്ങൾ പറഞ്ഞു. JD Power എന്നത് എത്രത്തോളം വലിയ scam ആണെന്നത് നന്നായി മനസ്സിലാക്കാന് സാധിച്ചിട്ടുള്ള ഒരു വ്യക്തിയാണ് ഞാന്. എന്തായാലും വളരെ സന്തോഷം.
in 2021 Tata nexon steering was not stable after 13k kms, I visited service centre multiple times to resolve that but thet denied no issues in my nexon car, later I checked price of steering column one is 86k in test drive nexon cars, but in customer car have another brand cost is 52k, test drive car and customer nexon car don't have same stability in steering handling. Tata also pocket saver in cost cutting
Massive respect to you guys for selecting this topic 👏🏻👌
" APPLICABLE ONLY IF YOU DRIVE UNDER 64KMPH! " should be put as a STATUARY WARNING on all NCAP results. 😀
And excellent job you guys, who talks facts and straight to the point. 👍
@Aswin Biju 🙏☺️☺️
As mentioned in video, the positive side of these crash tests is awareness among buyers about safety rather than features.
I have some clear idea on car quality in India. Used to do audit in Hyundai factories in Chennai few years back...Around 130 companies in and around Chennai provide parts for a Hyundai car.
The minimum quality rating required for Hyundai, Maruthi-Suzuki, etc were E (A being the highest)
A was for export from India, B was for Mercedes and all, C was for Ford and few others.
Most of the global players use substandard materials for cars used in India, Africa and latin countries.
Surely. എല്ലാ ncap ളെയും Compare ചെയ്ത് വിശദമായ വീഡിയോ വേണം. ഞാനും ആവശ്യപ്പെടുന്നു. ഇതുപോലുള്ള genuine content ഉള്ള videos ഇടുന്ന channels മറ്റൊന്നും മലയാളത്തിൽ ഇല്ല എന്നു പറയാം.
True Eye opener. You know who your subscribers are ! damn I feel super pumped up to be part of this community 🙌
This was the most worthfull video i have watched on your channel as i always had a doubt about global ncap..this is what is expected from autojournalists😊
Considering the same test is used on tin cans, the cars qualified can be a choice for affordable safety.
And, let safety be a marketing tool, like mileage, resale value and better than claiming the car is designed for safety and ended up building only crumble zones.... If gncap is biased, then in future we can wittness Maruti can have some stars or a fraction of it.. ( It should have done been already if so, since they are also for business)
Hope the motive of this video is also not part of someones marketing portfolio.. that too have a probablity. Not defaming any brand... Finally it's a choice. Like ARAI mileage test is on some standard , ncaps have thier own which ideally improve based on study. So.. something is better than nothing..
Another valid point .
“The secret to happiness is Freedom.
The secret to freedom is Courage .”
10:12 On Thar, I think Mahindra discontinued the AX variant with side facing rear seats to retain the 4 stars. Only AX optional available now with front facing rear seats.
@Aswin Biju That was registered in February 2021
@Aswin Biju AX optional still available in the market. and that doesn't have side facing seats. though I have no idea what the temple got.
Great you called out the mystery over Tata Harrier’s GNCAP tests! Hats off!
നിങ്ങൾ പറഞ്ഞത് ശെരിയാണ്. ഞങ്ങൾ സാധാരണ കാരായ സർക്കാർ ഉദ്യോഗസ്ഥർ ആണ്. ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്നത് മാരുതി 800. Land cruiser ഓടിച്ചു വന്നവനു ഞങ്ങളുടെ വണ്ടി ഇഷ്ടപ്പെട്ടില്ല എന്നു തോന്നുന്നു. വണ്ടി വെട്ടിച്ചു മാറ്റികൊടുക്കേണ്ടി വന്നു. ഇതോരു അനുഭവം ആണ്. എന്തായാലും ഞങ്ങളുടെ കുട്ടികളുടെ ഭാഗ്യം. ഇപ്പോഴും ജീവൻ ഉണ്ട്
Haha that glitch transition though 😬 Having always been obsessed about top gear the show, I love the fact that you guys actually created a channel without copying any presentation styles! Much love from a former bike-only enthusiast who has become an "automobile" enthusiast 😂🤙
A huge Hands off to your guts to point out the truth .Never thought if it before.If I were you I might not utter a single word if I have the slightest dought that my words would put my Job at stake ,whereas you guys on the other hand have shown the courage to face all the criticism that's on the way. Thankyou for being truly rational ,Thankyou for being truly Taking Cars.