This was fascinating and so well researched. I didn't know anything at all about wild boar. Thank you for producing such an interesting and thought provoking film.
I never knew boar died out in England, prior to the reign of the Tudors. It seems such a quintessential medieval food - I thought it went out of fashion, which is why I never seem to hear about it in later centuries, rather than the boars themselves disappearing.
Wild boars can be invasive species, but of coure as a hunter I think that we should protect them. I live in Germany and here is a very big population of wild boar and we hunt them just to keep allways the same numbers of them in the wild areas. I acctualy came from Bosnia and Herzegownia and we have them a lot there, so I like them, I like to hunt them for trophies, to eat them and to protect them after all, because I wouldn't be able to hunt them if there is no stabile population... We need them a lot, we need deers, wolves and all that kind of animals.
In Germany there's also hunters who kill every deers, wolves, lynx, moose and bear they see. deer population is alarmingly low there. Also nope, there's not too much boar in Germany, barely even 2 million maybe, sorry but that's quite normal. However there's too much people and too little forest for them. And no cull on wild boar are made to let them be "too numerous", as it become a constant and stable way to have money, (hunting business). And allow lie to people and continue the propaganda of "hunter are usefull and help regulate species, caus nature can't do it herself and human should mannage evrything". Yeah in France for exemple, we use the roe deer and boar argument to excuse hunters and justify their presence and business, even if they maintain and feed those roed deer and boar and have been unnable to actually mannage the population in the pasts decades. Because with this excuse they can continue killing thousand of them for money and kill all sort of other rare and threathened species just for fun wolves, waterfowl, somes birds such as capercaillie, turtle dove, ptarmigan, but also ibex, chamoi, red deer, foxes, badgers, beaver etc.
@@redmeth07 nothing is more invasive than human. and nope, they're not invasive ANYWHERE in Europe, even germany, they're 100% native and beneficial to the ecosystem. they're just considered as a nuisance or pest BY US, because they dammage our crops... which ae invasive and bad for the environment.
Sus scrofa domesticus DOES have tusks ! Some of my boars have had monstroustuks. The main difference is that domesticus gets proper FAT, whereas Sus scrofa is generally lean. Rotavating is mechanical cultivation, what boar do is rooting, orsometimes, “Rootling”, which stirs up the seedbank, and encourages germination of long buried seed.
Can we have a precise link to the page of the section 14 as well as the 3 class in the f646 of the wildlife and countryside protection act please. because the site seem messed up and very difficult to find what you actually try to search. I bet wolves, lynxes, and bear aren't on the list as native, and would be put alongside boar the second one of them touch the UK soil.
Here's the link to the document - www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/69 - the schedule 9 animals are right near the bottom of the document, and here is a link to Section 14, explaining the introduction of species - www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/69/section/14 Also you're completely right. Despite them being native to the country, Bears, Wolves and Lynx are nowhere to be seen on the document.
@@wildcamcraig Thanks if those aren't here (i suppose the moose too) i fear for paleonative species that could be used in rewilding such as water buffaloe edit : WTF this list is very small, there's only what 9 species considered as native, mainly birds, ? Where's the burdot, sturgeon, all the fishes, amphibians, reptiles or heck even mammals and lot of bird are missing here. And why there's native species in the non-native list, european pond turtle, capercaillie, white tailed eagle, wild boar, dormhouse, common crane ?????? Thats nonsense bullshit. Uk government suck even more than France for nature conservation, i didn't know it was actually possible.
Even though they can be dangerous they should still be fully reintroduced. Cows (never mind bulls) can be far more dangerous, especially with calves and to dog walkers. That hasn't stopped us covering every inch of pasturable land in livestock.
What is the simple definition of extinction? Extinction is the complete disappearance of a species from Earth. Species go extinct every year, but historically the average rate of extinction has been very slow with a few exceptions.
wrong. 1. extinction is the complete disapearance of a species in a specific area. You have localised extinction, when the species is absent from a single region, and global extinction when there's no living representant of the species at all. 2. the difference is that WE'RE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ONE, as well as for MANY other extinctions. This is not a natural process, it's human playing god and being a general nuisance. 3. historically the average rate of extinction has been EXTREMELY HIGH, 100x higher than normal due to human activities.
Incomparable circumstances. American boars aren’t boars at all, they’re feral pigs, highly invasive and don’t belong in the Americas. Wild boars are a native species to the UK and so will have a much less negative impact.
1. those are feral pigs not wild boar. 2. they aren't native to America, you guys introduced them which fucked up the ecosystem 3. wild boars are native to the UK, and play a major role in the ecosystem, being a very important species there, helping many ecological process and species. 4. What's more important, ecosystem health and survival of an entire species, or intensive farming which destroy the entire land 5. farmers who complain about nature dammage, what hypocrisy, that would be like Qatar saying petrol industry is bad or Usa saying that guns are dangerous and should be destroyed, farming is one of the main cause of ALL nature destruction including, but not limited to - ecocide - wildlife persecution and demonization - extinction of many species - destruction of entire region and ecosystems, prairies, forest, rivers, lakes - mass pollution of the soil and water - mass extinction of insects and plant diversity - desertification - mass destruction/pollution of water and soil ressources - wildfire - spread of dozens of disease and health issues - introduction of invasive species (including feral pigs). 6. no they're not dangerous 7. and farm cause hundreds of billions of natural and health dammage each year, so even bigger problem than feral pig 8. YOU LET the feral pigs become a widespread issue, because hunter will shoot any deer or wolves, but not any kind of invasive species, noooo, they would risk being usefull and helping nature, they will only shoot native and endangered species, never invasive one. Or at least they let them breed and become an issue before making small cull which does not help at all but allow them to make money/activity out of it.
The simple truth is the without the presence of a predator the forest of Dean wild boar would soon start to run out of food and then you would have disease and starvation which is not nice, Culling keeps the majority of the population healthy as they do not decimate their own food supply And the fact that this guy uses the word murder and execution makes me lose any respect for what he’s saying, I think he’s probably a vegan and doesn’t understand the natural world .
Well I think the flaw in your idea is that nothing is keeping them confined to the forest of Dean. The numbers increase, and they disperse. Additionally, in cases of starvation, the population goes back down, which makes the culling idealists happy, and the same with disease. The population is kept small in order to confine them to the FoD in order to bring in tourism and to sell them as meat. If the government truly saw them as a threat, they would kill them all. The fact that the boar are being confined to the FoD shows that the culling efforts are merely to keep the boar within the boundaries, not to stop their numbers increasing
and that kind of bs mentality and argument make US loose any respect in what you can say. 1. vegan do understand the natural world, many of them understand it more than you even. And this has NOTHING to do with all of it's argumentation and the FACTS he present. So you're just being a morron here. 2. let's call a cat a cat, it's murder and execution, but if you want to lie to yourself and use "population mannagement" or "harvest", then you're just a fucking hypocrite. 3. so you judge people based on what they eat, and think that not wanting to eat food that require the suffering, death and exploitation of an animal is bad...... Well this is extremely stupid and immoral thing to think. 4. you do realise 400 is NOTHING, barely viable, and that the forest can sustain far more boar than that, and that it's not how nature work. Once a speacies reach maximum carrying capacity, it doesn't grow more. It stabilise. In the case of boar, some would die of starvation, or they would produce far less offsprings in response to the lack of resources. And you forget that they would actually move and explore new areas, expand their range into other forest. So no, here the culls have NOTHING to do with any form of ecology, environment wellfare, or population mannagement for the sake of the boar. It's an attempt at extermination targeted toward the species.
This was fascinating and so well researched. I didn't know anything at all about wild boar. Thank you for producing such an interesting and thought provoking film.
What a great video, thank you
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I never knew boar died out in England, prior to the reign of the Tudors. It seems such a quintessential medieval food - I thought it went out of fashion, which is why I never seem to hear about it in later centuries, rather than the boars themselves disappearing.
Wild boars can be invasive species, but of coure as a hunter I think that we should protect them. I live in Germany and here is a very big population of wild boar and we hunt them just to keep allways the same numbers of them in the wild areas. I acctualy came from Bosnia and Herzegownia and we have them a lot there, so I like them, I like to hunt them for trophies, to eat them and to protect them after all, because I wouldn't be able to hunt them if there is no stabile population... We need them a lot, we need deers, wolves and all that kind of animals.
In Germany there's also hunters who kill every deers, wolves, lynx, moose and bear they see.
deer population is alarmingly low there.
Also nope, there's not too much boar in Germany, barely even 2 million maybe, sorry but that's quite normal.
However there's too much people and too little forest for them.
And no cull on wild boar are made to let them be "too numerous", as it become a constant and stable way to have money, (hunting business).
And allow lie to people and continue the propaganda of "hunter are usefull and help regulate species, caus nature can't do it herself and human should mannage evrything".
Yeah in France for exemple, we use the roe deer and boar argument to excuse hunters and justify their presence and business, even if they maintain and feed those roed deer and boar and have been unnable to actually mannage the population in the pasts decades.
Because with this excuse they can continue killing thousand of them for money and kill all sort of other rare and threathened species just for fun
wolves, waterfowl, somes birds such as capercaillie, turtle dove, ptarmigan, but also ibex, chamoi, red deer, foxes, badgers, beaver etc.
Are they more invasive than humans ? Or ?
@@redmeth07
nothing is more invasive than human.
and nope, they're not invasive ANYWHERE in Europe, even germany, they're 100% native and beneficial to the ecosystem.
they're just considered as a nuisance or pest BY US, because they dammage our crops... which ae invasive and bad for the environment.
I thoroughly enjoyed this and learnt sooooo much! Thankyou
Your audio is crissssp
Bless, thank you. I had one guy tell me it's too distorted and the mic is too close to my mouth so I'm not too sure about that
Great watch!
Thanks for this well informed video excellent
Super video, thank you! It would be good to know who is behind the culling to extinction in the Forest of Dean!!
Sus scrofa domesticus DOES have tusks ! Some of my boars have had monstroustuks. The main difference is that domesticus gets proper FAT, whereas Sus scrofa is generally lean. Rotavating is mechanical cultivation, what boar do is rooting, orsometimes, “Rootling”, which stirs up the seedbank, and encourages germination of long buried seed.
Can we have a precise link to the page of the section 14
as well as the 3 class in the f646 of the wildlife and countryside protection act please.
because the site seem messed up and very difficult to find what you actually try to search.
I bet wolves, lynxes, and bear aren't on the list as native, and would be put alongside boar the second one of them touch the UK soil.
Here's the link to the document - www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/69 - the schedule 9 animals are right near the bottom of the document, and here is a link to Section 14, explaining the introduction of species - www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/69/section/14
Also you're completely right. Despite them being native to the country, Bears, Wolves and Lynx are nowhere to be seen on the document.
and here is an unofficial link to schedule 9 - www.ukwildlife.com/index.php/wildlife-countryside-act-1981/schedule-9/
@@wildcamcraig
Thanks
if those aren't here (i suppose the moose too)
i fear for paleonative species that could be used in rewilding such as water buffaloe
edit : WTF this list is very small, there's only what 9 species considered as native, mainly birds, ?
Where's the burdot, sturgeon, all the fishes, amphibians, reptiles or heck even mammals and lot of bird are missing here.
And why there's native species in the non-native list, european pond turtle, capercaillie, white tailed eagle, wild boar, dormhouse, common crane ?????? Thats nonsense bullshit.
Uk government suck even more than France for nature conservation, i didn't know it was actually possible.
while we are at it why not some wolves and bears ..........
Even though they can be dangerous they should still be fully reintroduced. Cows (never mind bulls) can be far more dangerous, especially with calves and to dog walkers. That hasn't stopped us covering every inch of pasturable land in livestock.
I acctualy came from Bosnia and Herzegownia and we have them a lot there
What is the simple definition of extinction?
Extinction is the complete disappearance of a species from Earth. Species go extinct every year, but historically the average rate of extinction has been very slow with a few exceptions.
notice "simple definition". There are global extinctions and there are local extinctions, in ecological terms
wrong.
1. extinction is the complete disapearance of a species in a specific area.
You have localised extinction, when the species is absent from a single region, and global extinction when there's no living representant of the species at all.
2. the difference is that WE'RE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ONE, as well as for MANY other extinctions. This is not a natural process, it's human playing god and being a general nuisance.
3. historically the average rate of extinction has been EXTREMELY HIGH, 100x higher than normal due to human activities.
Wild boar are dangerous, at least here in the US. They cause millions in farm damage. Big problem
How much damage does farming cause to their habitats?
Incomparable circumstances. American boars aren’t boars at all, they’re feral pigs, highly invasive and don’t belong in the Americas. Wild boars are a native species to the UK and so will have a much less negative impact.
@@andrewcrowley6331 apart from killing people if they attack .......
1. those are feral pigs not wild boar.
2. they aren't native to America, you guys introduced them which fucked up the ecosystem
3. wild boars are native to the UK, and play a major role in the ecosystem, being a very important species there, helping many ecological process and species.
4. What's more important, ecosystem health and survival of an entire species, or intensive farming which destroy the entire land
5. farmers who complain about nature dammage, what hypocrisy, that would be like Qatar saying petrol industry is bad or Usa saying that guns are dangerous and should be destroyed,
farming is one of the main cause of ALL nature destruction including, but not limited to
- ecocide
- wildlife persecution and demonization
- extinction of many species
- destruction of entire region and ecosystems, prairies, forest, rivers, lakes
- mass pollution of the soil and water
- mass extinction of insects and plant diversity
- desertification
- mass destruction/pollution of water and soil ressources
- wildfire
- spread of dozens of disease and health issues
- introduction of invasive species (including feral pigs).
6. no they're not dangerous
7. and farm cause hundreds of billions of natural and health dammage each year, so even bigger problem than feral pig
8. YOU LET the feral pigs become a widespread issue, because hunter will shoot any deer or wolves, but not any kind of invasive species, noooo, they would risk being usefull and helping nature, they will only shoot native and endangered species, never invasive one. Or at least they let them breed and become an issue before making small cull which does not help at all but allow them to make money/activity out of it.
you, sir/madam, are a saint.
The simple truth is the without the presence of a predator the forest of Dean wild boar would soon start to run out of food and then you would have disease and starvation which is not nice, Culling keeps the majority of the population healthy as they do not decimate their own food supply And the fact that this guy uses the word murder and execution makes me lose any respect for what he’s saying, I think he’s probably a vegan and doesn’t understand the natural world .
Well I think the flaw in your idea is that nothing is keeping them confined to the forest of Dean. The numbers increase, and they disperse. Additionally, in cases of starvation, the population goes back down, which makes the culling idealists happy, and the same with disease. The population is kept small in order to confine them to the FoD in order to bring in tourism and to sell them as meat. If the government truly saw them as a threat, they would kill them all. The fact that the boar are being confined to the FoD shows that the culling efforts are merely to keep the boar within the boundaries, not to stop their numbers increasing
and that kind of bs mentality and argument make US loose any respect in what you can say.
1. vegan do understand the natural world, many of them understand it more than you even. And this has NOTHING to do with all of it's argumentation and the FACTS he present. So you're just being a morron here.
2. let's call a cat a cat, it's murder and execution, but if you want to lie to yourself and use "population mannagement" or "harvest", then you're just a fucking hypocrite.
3. so you judge people based on what they eat, and think that not wanting to eat food that require the suffering, death and exploitation of an animal is bad...... Well this is extremely stupid and immoral thing to think.
4. you do realise 400 is NOTHING, barely viable, and that the forest can sustain far more boar than that, and that it's not how nature work.
Once a speacies reach maximum carrying capacity, it doesn't grow more. It stabilise.
In the case of boar, some would die of starvation, or they would produce far less offsprings in response to the lack of resources.
And you forget that they would actually move and explore new areas, expand their range into other forest.
So no, here the culls have NOTHING to do with any form of ecology, environment wellfare, or population mannagement for the sake of the boar.
It's an attempt at extermination targeted toward the species.