PUTTING THE TIME-LAPSE TO THE TEST!!
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- Опубликовано: 1 янв 2025
- Tomorrow is Black Friday! A big day before the Holidays. And a big day for ME!! The stock run of the Simon Line Time-Lapse will be available! After making a few tweaks since the prototype release, I am super happy with these and can't wait to work one into the bag. I hope you enjoy yours!!
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This is so cool of you to address this issue that is faced by all manufacturers, and to take the time to share your testing so people know exactly which disc to go for based on their needs. Simon is a real one.
I mean he kinda had to after Drews video. not say he wouldnt have made it without it, but now he has to.
Who takes Drew's videos as advice? That's like Eagle making a video on forehand discs. Nobody throws like that but you
@@az1448 I don't understand your point. My point is that in Drews video he had a convo with simon saying the discs are trash and simon saying yeah i know, something went wrong but they will be better. Simon making this video supports his claim and im all for it. but it had to be done.
Well so much for me getting a purple and blue one now. My Pyro nomad and vanish are blurple. My favorite color disc.
Crap. I preordered a neon yellow one from my local store. Need to switch over to a purple for my noodle arm 😅
Thanks Simon for donating some signed time-lapses to the Lewiston Strong fundraiser tournament up here in Maine!
0:33 - Here in New Zealand, we have a road sign just like this. It means "accelerate to the open road speed limit". :)
Love how Simon shows and explains the process of designing the disc
This is why Simon has become the people's favorite, his editing has gotten better, which was for me very good anyways. He's disc golf entertainment. ❤ Congrats Simon on all your success in many different aspects!
This kind of heads up and owning the reality of the production process is classy and why we all love you Simon!
I've worked in plastic extrusion since 1988. I still laugh when my operators wonder why the process is different today than 2 weeks ago when we ran the same part... 😂 So many variables in extrusion, and I'm assuming injection molding is close to the same... SOME DAY, I am going to see the process of making a disc!!!
Injection molder here. It takes a massive amount of investment to make sure most variables are dealt with. Resin dryers, master batch (colorant) density to be used with the base resin, proper mixing before barrel loading, rehology testing before processing. The mold building is critical, good temperature controls, shrink factored in, proper gating (ideally valve gates). Not to mention good process controls with quality testing for consistent running IE 30 piece run measured to a capability study on a measurement device (CMM or blue light). Time consuming and expensive to truly nail a process.
Love that you laid out the color differences. I have a slower arm speed and had no intention of getting the time lapse cause it’s just too much for my arm but I may have to get a purple one now.
I have a weaker arm too! I’m glad we can skip the testing and go straight to the purple!!
Yeah good luck finding one now. They are gonna sell faster than 2019 sexy birds
@@julliakosic7091 we will see if the PURPLE one is available in the next month
The insight to the molding process was really interesting. Would love to see the process of making an overmolded disc at the factory. The engineering facinates me
have you seen the new smarter every day video on it? very cool
That was the funniest opening ever. Laughed so hard at the end. I pre-ordered one already for my nephew and thought I wouldn't be able to handle one because I have slow arm speed bit may try out the different colors and see if it will work for me. Great insight.
I have first hand experience with what Simon is talking about. I work in a 3rd party test facility, and one of the test's we perform is a meltflow test. This is done on an extrusion plastometer, and so many things go into it to get consistent specimens. The weight, the heat, how clean the barrel is, how clean the die is, how pristine the barrel and die are, even how the plastic pellets are loaded can cause bubbles in the flow rate. There is always an allowable tolerance, when you have so many things that can go wrong there will always be inconsistencies that are unavoidable.
Thanks for the insight into production! And I'd recommend you look into the carnivore diet to help your elbow. Lots of people have fixed their tennis elbow with it. Been eating this way for a year and no more aches or pains
Purple for this noodle arm. Shot of the day made me Laugh Out Loud. Thanks dude.
You killed that intro bro! Your dedication to the disc has convinced me. I'm getting one for sure!
Would love to know your thoughts in regards to stability of the pink time lapses?
Not gonna lie, when he stepped up for that last shot at the end I was expecting the Ace lol. Happy Thanksgiving from Canada!
I LOL'd
Laughed so hard at the end!!! Nice to see Simon is human from time to time.
Thank you for actually testing them and telling us the stabilities. I can’t tell you how refreshing this is. Why don’t manufacturers do this?!?!
Simon, although I mostly agree with you on the colors/runs affecting stability. How about some Simon Science? Take 10 of each color you've notice fly different of the time lapse and put them against each other. 10 purple (understable), 10 grey (neutral) 10 pink (overstable), we all know you can throw shots back to back with the same angle/arm speed you've proven this on camera (maybe bring a speed gun). Perhaps MVP can turn it into a give away event for Simon Thrown discs 😉 sign them "Simon Verified {disc stability}".
i like the feel of the time lapse though the pink one and the blue one i bought are quite a bit more over stable than my proto time lapse which was about as beefy as my horizon cloud breaker lol. i wish i could get my arm speed up about 10 to 15 mph then i could use it for something more than a heavy wind disc right now haha. hopefully by spring i can get up there. thank you for all the inspiration and drive to strive to be better! I will catch up eventually ;). failure will never overtake me if my determination to succeed is strong enough!
funny how the colors follow ROY G BIV for stability just like LED voltage drop for different color and wavelength.... Try some Teslas in different colors then think about what the man, N Tesla, said about frequency and vibration. Maybe a little "mindbender", but red is a rooted heavier frequency while blue and violet are a higher and lighter frequency...MINDBENDING. BTW, love my purple mind bender! I always prefer the G BIV portion for discs over the ROY. Hate red discs, they all seem more overstable.
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I throw white discs. Does this mean I have ALL the stabilities? Cuz that would be cool
@@emilykaczor6757 that would be cool, but you may be talking about absorbed colors vs reflected. Reflected being the frequency it puts out. black"ish" would be all plastic mixed 😉
@@mfuzzy7422 it’s a joke. Because all light together is white light. When you split it with a prism you get the rainbow of colors.
@@emilykaczor6757 I understood haha but if you're still a little fuzzy, a prism plastic photon wouldn't split light 🌈 ....or would it? maybe they should make one. Happy Gyro hunting
Finally someone comes out BEFORE discs are released and just owns the different colours are different. You rock.
Thanks! The science behind flight is what attracted me to disc golf in the first place, so learning more is fascinating.
What about the pink ones? How do those fly in your opinion, picked one up today haven’t had a chance to throw it yet hoping to see how it flies before the Lewiston tourney on Sunday
Might be the best intro ever.
Also, appreciate the explanation. I knew my bag was full of MVP for a reason. It’s because you explain the molds…and now the plastic and colors. Thank you!
7:41 this seemed really genuine, you seem genuinely fascinated by the process lol
Love the candid disc development, no one has ever posted a vid like this, another simon first! And for the first time in my life im excited for December, vlogmas baby!!!!
when axiom first starting doing alternate molds of MVP discs they specifically noted the use of different colored plastics altered the flight characteristics which is why they say so and so disc is a "beat-in" version of this or that disc. in the end it's all dependent on the arm speed and wrist flick release of the person throwing. my time-lapse came in the mail today and I took it out in the field behind my house to throw it. my my how overstable! it behaves almost like my Tesla or Excite. If I have it a hefty forehand flex I can get a pretty nice predictable flight out of it but don't think it will be a go-to disc for me personally on anything except a get-out-of-jail throw from the thick brush
Thanks for the info on color vs stability! Went out and got me a sweet purple one!
What about the black ones?
The Lego factory in Denmark have molded plastic with insane precision for 75 years. Maybe they have a trick or two. Love the video!
a 1 degree difference in movement upon cooling is going to be trivial for a 1 inch block, but massive for an 8-inch disc. Additionally, the blocks can be elastically deformed during assembly and match up to the "perfect" size. A disc flying through the air isn't going have the same forces pushing it back to the "correct" shape.
Well one of their "secrets" is they premix the different colors with a whole separate process to insure consistency across many injection molding machines and runs. This process isn't really feasible for the relatively small batches that discs are made in, especially with the large variety of colors desired.
Another factor is disc design, for consistent shape with relatively even shrinkage of plastic a consistent and relatively thin wall thickness is better. Disc golf discs, especially high speed drivers, have huge wall thickness differences between the flight plate and the wing. It's possible to get things more consistent than they are now, but there will never be two discs exactly the same.
Blessings to you and yours on this day of thanks - I'm thankful for you, Simon!
I have a lab second yellow time lapse, and it’s very overstable. But it crushes with a flex shot in windy conditions. Going to try picking up a mint one though to see the difference.
I process injection mold machines myself. Like you said it all depends lot to lot of the materials they are never the same it also depends on the machine the size of barrel and the temps of the barrels there is a lot of difference that needs to be factored out
What about pink? I have 3 pink on hold
I have mine! I threw it in the snow (up here in Michigan) and it's a BOMB! Can't wait to use it on the course.
Yes! I’ve been checking your channel every day for more!!!!
Great breakdown of the different flights. And thanks for some insider knowledge. Wish discs could have a mark on the bottom with supplementary numbers that offset the baseline flight numbers, added next to the weight.
Loved the intro! Super excited to try mine. You and MVP are killing it!
I have this exact same experience with neutron Photons from ~2years ago. My yellow/green one is super overstable. And my blue one is neutral. Very interesting
Toller Anfang und wirklich ein gutes und Informatives Video. Finde es super wie du die einzelnen Scheiben beschreibst und das du auf die Wirkung der Farben eingehst und uns sagst welche wie fliegt. Gruß
Glad you brought up colors & flight differences. Preorder is blue. And just ordered a purple stampless.
I'm a new man after watching this inspirational video. Might run for president.
Ya i love the wave for long turning shots and I got your dglo wave and was blown away at the stability. it flys more like a defy and i love it
I had a purple Vanish that held the lone perfectly for me. I bought another-same plastic and weight, but red this time-and it was annoyingly overstable (yes, a Vanish!). This video makes sense of that.
I think it a bonus to be able to have two or three stabilities of the same mold.
i love how into this process you are! i hope you realize this is an epic start to being a legand. keep it up, simon.
Timelapse flys amazing !!
What’s funny is the purple tends it be my favorite for the shiny foil stamps.
I appreciate you telling us the different flights of the Time Lapse. I always see people talking about the different flights of Heimburg Destroyers by color/year and it's nice to skip the debate when deciding which one to get.
Great to know the different colours fly different😳 I got 2 coming in the post, so hyped👌🏻
As an engineer working in manufacturing, yes to everything you said! Thanks for the breakdown Simon, waiting for mine to come in the mail 😫
As someone who used to do hvac and installed systems for touchscreen manufacturing where temperature and humidity are critical. I was talking to a guy who works for Prodigy who told me that disc golf companies don’t invest in climate control systems. This blew my mind because of how critical it is to provide consistency and control in manufacturing.
Nothing is perfect but if you truly want the most consistency then you have to invest.
MVP did. I remember that from a gyropalooza last year or the year before
@@seansweeney1805 they announced in the Gyropalooza videos that they installed climate controlled spaces for their production areas? I do not remember that. seems highly unlikely. idk.
Just picked up my Time-Lapse from Powergrip. Super excited to see where the Simon Line goes!
Solid of Simon to address this issue with our sport. I have spent so much time trying to explain this issue to amateur players…. This should help!
Thanks for the heads up on what colors I'm going to get
That intro was insane. Great job. Appreciate the explanation. I'll be watching this again when I get mine🤣😂
Picked up one of the purple ones and a simonline bag as well
I lost my Lizotte hex the other day so I got s regular hex and one of these. I got an orange one with grey rim. Very consistent and dependable for me. Will be using it alot. And if I lose it they have more at the play in again by my house 😂
That intro was incredible🤣🤣 cant wait to check out all your discs!! Thanks for all you do for the disc golf community!!
I totally understand why after your explanation of how discs are made. After a few years of playing however, I've realized the unfortunate truth that the flight numbers on a disc is never to be trusted. I get that's what the manufacturer intended for the disc to fly like, and that there are certain aspects on how to throw a disc (like high speed drivers, needs a quick arm etc) but discs fly so different from year to year.
dude i'm happy you made this, such great info that I never knew - just picked up a red/orange time lapse and its much more stable than I thought it would be, still a great disc
Danke wieder für das gute Video, mach so weiter und ich freue mich schon auf die ChristmasVlogs, Grüße aus Hessen
Picked up a Fission Time Lapse yesterday. One of the best feeling discs ive ever thrown
Very thankful for this video Simon. This is super helpful for me as Amateur player because I can't get discs that often so the ones I get I want to work well for me. I ordered a Special Edition Timelapse and you just let me know that it will be how I like it. I'm very excited now to throw it.
You're the best Simon!
I had to pause it to say, that intro monologue was super fun. :)
Bought my Simon Line Time Lapse today! Went with the grey thanks to your advice. Can’t wait to throw it! Glad to be able to support you 😊
The SE stamp looks nice but imo the prototype stamp is the best your sl logo is wht really made it stand out. It was simple design tht was really catchy compared to the final stamps.
Picked up 2 time lapses this morning. Threw drives on 7 different holes and hit an ace. Im liking the disc so far and cant complain with an ace with only 7 throws on a disc.
Cap
Where can you find the green/mint green one? That is a great color and I don't have a lot of arm speed so would be a good disc given what Simon said.
Love the honesty. Will still try it.
This may be the best disc promo i've ever seen
I just picked up a blue timelapse, its a great dd. It's a great workable driver.
Can't wait to grab a time lapse, it would be cool to see a video with you and Casey up at bellamy Park in dover NH. It's a fun woods course be cool to see you guys play it.
Loved the shot of the day
I just ordered a Special Edition yellow Time-Lapse and cannot wait to have it in my hands, and then hopefully on the fairway. Being a nerd-about-all-things I really appreciate the insight into the development and production it takes to bring a disc to market. Keep up the good work!
Best shot of the day at the end there
Happy Thanksgiving Simon, you help inspire me to become better at the sport, so I'm thankful for you. Come play more courses in CT!!!
The timelapses in the gyropalooza boxes that are lab second are those from the stock run or the proto?
Ein sehr geiles Intro. Das ist richtig gute und nicht unbedingt einfache Arbeit. Das Betonen beim Voice over muss on point sein, damit es richtig rüber kommt und ein Gefühl beim Zuschauer auslöst. Well done, Sir. 👌
Where about does the orange TL sit? With the red on the OS end?
I love that German traffic sign you posted on the tee!. You should use it as a graphic design for our discs. Not for sale, just a custom stamp for only you. It could be the inspiration you need to win events, and ace some holes. German no speed limit traffic signs are such a neat design for a golf disc, especially for you Simon. Hope you had a Happy Thanksgivng!☺Bill M., Uncasville, CT, PDGA Ace Club Member #7378. You gotta play my awesome ace run 18 hole residential course, established in 1996. My fun, scenic, and challenging course are mostly par 2s where setting a course record will not be 10 down.....or maybe you can prove me wrong. I wanna see the one and only Simon Lizotte set the course record. It will be an experience you will never forget and get you coming back for more!
Will the prototype stamp ever come out in the future? I’ve always loved that stamp. Way more than these new ones tbh.
I'm picking one up tomorrow am. New hampshire union square disc golf. The limited editions looks pretty sick
Simon is sooo epic for this thank you!!!
These are so cool! Can’t wait to see this line evolve 🤘
Simon is SOOOO good and marketing his products! Lol, guess I'll be buy a few more of these than originally planned 😅
Gotta buy one in every colour now 😂🤭
@@artem_mma good luck getting a purple one now
@JoshJackson13 definitely need a purple one 😵
@@artem_mma well the neutron vanish is really good on Back hand if you can't get a purple one
@@JoshJackson13Purple? He's most likely bagging the Teal. I liked it much better when people didn't buy that color.
I have a factory miss print time lapse 🎉🎉❤❤❤
Ordered mine. Can’t wait to give them a test
These Time-Lapse look awesome🔥
love the shot of the day at the end 😂
Pretty insane then that MVP are to my knowledge one of the most consistent manufacturers, if it's essentially "twice as hard" for them to be consistent. Also, insanely good intro! Loved that ending! 😆
That was the best opening ever!
I got two pink ones but its been too cold to throw. Where does that color fall in the stability line?
I just picked mine up! I'm so lucky I live close to the Powergrip shop, they are super nice and the shop is amazing! You should build a course for us here 😁
The red one was one of the most stable or understable?
Simon, Id give anything to have a few of them to test out, but If i had the 2nd Prototype one... i couldn't throw it, it would be the Center of My Collection! I want to buy the Gyropalooza Box, but I'd have to sell some stuff first.
Simon Lizotte I wish we could hook up you talk about colors that this purple is under stable. This one’s moreover stable. I could take any of those discs within a half hour and make them do whatever you want even get more out of it if you wanted too.
I could make any one of those discs and make them over, stable or under I could take that purple one and make it way over stable or the most over stable. I could make any of those this into a roller man I wish we could hook up. 👍
I’m definitely getting a purple and a white to test against my s line dd3 and cloudbreaker