I'll be honest, as refreshingly simple and fun as this movie is, a spinoff about Furiosa should have come out a DECADE ago. This is the definition of striking while the iron is ICE COLD.
That was the original plan to film these back ti back but it proved to difficult then george miller planned to make an animated film but no animation company could do it. Then it was planned to come out in 2019 or 2020 but then covid happened.
I think the biggest mistake this movie made was coming out almost a decade after Fury Road's hype had all but dried up. Imagine how much more buzz this film would have gotten if it was released in 2017 or even 2019.
@Jdn__0001 that doesn't make sense. You just said it wouldn't be the same quality, and, even if it did, it would be garbage. Unless you're referring to the story itself, that's a contradiction.
I love how everytime she looks back and tries to help people she cares about she is punished. She turns back for her mother and is taken by Dementus. She turns back for Pratorean Jack and loses her arm and again isn’t able to return to the Green Place. Then in Fury Road basically the whole movie is her turning back to save the wives and she’s punished by learning the green place is gone after 20 years of hope. She eventually is rewarded when Immortan Joe dies and she can lead the Citadel
I thought it'd be much better if she actually ran away in praetorian scene, would have been some character development since being a child, to me it felt like a failure to learn on her own mistakes, seeing how she squandered other's attempts to help her. Did it feel to you like it was just a part of her character, whereby she is a person who doesn't leave others behind sort of thing ?
@@kirilllipskii8157 I think it’s just her character to never leave anyone behind. She does eventually learn in Fury Road when Splendid falls off the rig and Max says he saw her go under the wheels to keep moving but she needed confirmation before turning back and again facing the consequences of doing so.
yeah, whats up with that ? what sense does it make? For someone seeking to return to a peaceful quiet life to suddenly become a warlord opressing people and intimidating rivals?
I never once considered why Furiosa had a mechanical arm in Fury Road. What's to wonder about? Look at the world she inhabits. You're lucky to be alive!
I mean the previous movie had a character that was literally a guy standing on top of another guy, i didnt bat an eye that furiosa had a mechanical arm
wanna bet that in 3rd prequel we'll learn the metal arm was made by the man that hit the nukes, who also was gran-gran...-gran father of the either main chick or main bad white male and it all has to neatly be connected. Also remember that razor that was used to shave her head? It will also have a backstory, because why the f not.
Agreed. With all the insanely awesome action scenes, he whines about the mechanical arm? Wtf. Sounds a like a grandma that always finds something to complain about. Brutal.
To be fair, her getting a mechanical arm in Furiosa wasn't done as a cheap reference to Fury Road. It was integrated into the story quite well, and shows how Dementus didn't just take her home and her mentor, but also physically impacted her. It's also very symbolic of him taking away her agency throughout the entire movie. Her losing her forearm while watching her mentor dying, and her having to stumble back to the citadel also shows how broken she is, both physically and mentally, because of Dementus. If Fury Road didn't exist, her losing her arm and building a new one would still be meaningful, and it would still be symbolic of her overcoming her agency being taken away by Dementus, and ultimately taking revenge. The arm not being a big deal in Fury Road makes it even better, because it means something in relation to Dementus, not in relation to Immortan Joe. The mechanical forearms only means something in the movie where it is expanded upon. I think that it was a very good way of showing the backstory of a character, in a way that respects both the audience and the source material. George Miller put a lot of people to shame by making a good action movie with a female protagonist, that was also a prequel. This movie does what many franchises failed to do.
@@mrmaori5769 I know right? I recently bought a gaming laptop and started playing games i missed for many years and was like " Modern Warfare came in 2019? Witcher 3 came in 2015? How? When?
It's 100% the apathy towards Hollywood. They lost our trust so much that we aren't even willing to go see the good movies. The era of Hollywood movies is over.
I think this has a lot to do with it, as an audience we are so prepared for a film to be terrible, that we assume they all are until proven otherwise, but often at that point it is too late.
Also, lets just be real, post pandemic, most people across the globe are economically screwed. Most people just don't have the time and the money. In Asia, watching a movie in the theatre usually meant a day out. You get friends and family, go watch a movie and then eat a meal together. Not anymore. Also, you know for a fact its gonna be on streaming in a month.
@@anthonylynch4737 Yup they made him look like a coward and weak horrible ending. 100lb girl took him out and was beating on him strong woman activated made my stomach turn the way it ended. The rest of the movie was good and believable but the way they ended dementus did not make this movie epic.
@@jamie30701 Disgraceful ruined it.Hemswoth deserved better with a great performance,..Should have ended like Mad Max 1 when she could have said as a homage "cut through your arm to escape the petrol about to.imfite, after chaining him to the vehicle about to explode..
No one seems to remember that Fury Road was not a box office hit when it came out. Yeah, everyone who saw it loved it, but not many people actually saw it.
I didn't like it. Original Mad Max was cheesy and kinda awesome and actually had Mad Max as a protagonist in it. Fury Road was already infected with the strong female lead-ism by then anyway.
Given the stream of subpar "girl-boss" movies polluting the pool, it's no surprise people aren't willing to wade in the muck to find out if Furiousa is a gem.
It's a shame, as Furiosa is a fantastic film! Definitely recommend seeing it on the big screen - it's a fun, epic ride for sure. Lots of creative action set pieces like in Fury Road. And a very fun chaotic villain role for Chris Hemsworth. I think you have to approach the films with different mindsets though. Fury Road is a high-octane, simple and straightforward action masterpiece. This film is more of an epic odyssey with slower pacing but more world building.
@@jackhammer0101you're correct. This is no gem. I don't agree with the things The Drinker praises here. Not well acted, not well written, obvious green screen, girl bossing galore. Skip it, especially at today's ticket prices.
The reason Furiosa is bombing is because their advertising campaign was absolutely abysmal. They never released a good trailer. Fury Road was the opposite. Second reason is because nobody cares about a young Furiosa who isn't Charlize. Turns out people want to see Max in a MAD MAX film
Yes- i agree. Fury road has perhaps the best trailer of all time, you know from seeing the trailer that it would be amazing. Furiosa trailer didnt sell me, but i knew id still see it as its Mad Max, and it was great. But yea, the advertising didnt help it
The movie was great I think the biggest problem is no one wants to go to a movie theaters. If you look at all 3 movies and they where written from start to finish, they had a story board choice to pick the best of 3 to reboot the series which was 2 or the 1st movie... you get the background of the world in 2nd movie or the 1st and hopefully if the 3rd movie 3rd inline made we will now have a world where max and frouisa have to put together after imortan joe... it makes sense from a story board perspective, kinda like how the Tell the OG starwars
I think it's all three. 1. Hollywood sucks lately. 2. Cinema prices are waaaaaaaaay to high. 3. Wait a couple weeks and watch it at home. I do wish all three problems would be solved, though. I really miss "going to the movies".
I think it also has another reason that’s a huge factor as to why things like internet pirates and other things like them are big now; it’s like how Lord Gabe Newell said, “Piracy is a service problem; provide a better service than the pirates and you’ll succeed,” and it’s very similar to what the bald wizard Asmongold said, “People are lazy. If the laziest thing to do is to just wait for it to come to a streaming service, then most people will do that than having to schedule a day off to see the movie, budget the day, watch the movie, return home for bed just to return to work the next day.” I probably butchered Asmongold’s quote, but I strongly agree with you. The only other reason why this movie is so late to release is because Miller was having a legal spat with Warner for proper payments for Fury Road. Thanks to the boring language of Legalese, it took them nearly a decade for things to get back to normality.
There's simply better content available as serialised stream. Even Disney managed to not screw up Shogun, and that's a 10hr 1st season. Just started watching Shardlake, also on Disney, and despite some unnecessary signalling by the inclusion of a multicultural cast there's no Message going on, they just happen to be actors with different skintones. Of course, the fact both of those are book adaptations and happen to tell a very good story is entirely by chance... 😂
I hate going to the theatre these days. 20 bucks for a ticket so I can sit in a smelly crowded theatre with crying babies and annoying movie talkers. No thanks.
Reasons why Furiosa flopped: 1) Ppl aren't going to the movies like they used to and waiting for streaming 2) It's a prequel and Charlize isn't back 3) Ppl want to see Mad Max not Furiosa 4) The only movie ppl are going to see in theater is Deadpool 3
I enjoyed Anya’s performance, but you just can’t replicate the maturity and grit Charlize put into the character. And yeah, if there was going to be an origin, it should have been a lean under two hours production that gets right to the point.
Although I loved the movie, I must admit that this franchise has never been too popular. It was a huge risk spending that kind of budget on Furiosa. A sequel to Fury road could have been a smarter move.
This movie really feels like an innocent victim of the previous flops... This is literally commerce at its finest, based on confidence. No one believes Hollywood can produce any good things anymore, so even good movies get shunned now...
Its not just that, its a Mad Max film without the main character, it just follows a side character who while liked is really not important and who has already left the timeline. The fact that Furiosa had such a large role in the Fury Road and almost all the lines is the reason it didn't do very well. If Tom Hardy was the real star of Fury Road it would have done far better than it did. This should have been a Tom Hardy or better Mel Gibson movie and Furiosa should not have been in it. It would have broken 500mil by now had that been the case.
@@alistairbolden6340 Wasn't it the same in Road Warrior though? Max is the sidekick in the story because that's the archetype of the Lone Wanderer; walk into a place, get involved in someone elses story, then leave once everything gets resolved. Also, Mel Gibson would've probably tanked the box office even further. He was already very controversial by the time Fury Road came out.
@@alistairbolden6340 Shits called Mad Max SAGA: Furiosa, not Mad Max: Furiosa for an obvious. It was supposed to tell the spin off story in Mad Max universe that Miller wrote alongside Fury Road. But hey, you do you with your opinion, I was just saying.
@@n00bfest32 of course, most of criticisms always complain about the fact that Max WASN'T in the movie, which is stupid when you think on the obvious. Hence, my argument nullifies those.
I'm a simple Aussie. I can't understand how any movie with Mad Max in its title doesn't have Mel Gibson as lead while the bloke is still breathing. Its Top Gun without Tom.
He’s an out and out Catholic, who says Catholic things and doesn’t bother smoothing out his talk like a politician either. So Hollywood hates him these days.
BS. They don’t even like other Catholics. Racist remarks trumps any claim of religious persecution. I’m an old man who grew up on Mad Max movies and would laugh if anyone suggested RW or Thunderdome were better than FR or this one.
Seeing a grizzled old max played by Mel Gibson for one last time would’ve been the epitome of the season and a great send off for the character. Love him or hate him, Mel Gibson is one hell of an actor and without him this series wouldn’t exist. So he deserves his final chance at the character. Pure and simple.
I like Mel Gibson, but the whole old man character thing just doesn't do it for me. It just makes me feel old myself because I grew up with seeing him in his prime.
@@Xaito same here. Coming up on forty soon so I know the feeling. But that’s why I like seeing the old man role. Reminds me that nothing over till the coffin drops.
in a world where everyone dies young, dont mess with the old man... there i just wrote a plot that is more interesting than fury road and furiosa combined...
Dementus' own story is really interesting his rise and fall as a warlord, lossing his initial confrontation with Joe and gaining the upper hand only to be saddled with rule a fief in addition to his hoard, the spiral of his sanity all the way to his eventual greek tragedy like fate. He is even depicted mythically as "Red Dementus" cape and chariot included.
Yes! I thought it was gonna talk about his rise and Férosa, I love the world building but seeing his rise up power, injury and show how the world became that way. The movie was just To movieish, how did nobody know she was a girl or tried to attack a smaller male, or they not realize she was the missing girl. It jumped around to much and when she cut her arm off, stole bike and popped his tire and nobody saw it, really pissed me off all to show her being caught later
there's nothing interesting about it at all. "whoa I'm gonna attack you" "oh how about you run gastown" "ok". 10 years later "oh no gastown is falling apart and they say I'm to blame" (last one is actual dialogue)... this is the worst movie I've seen in a decade at least
@@14funnybunny1 Inside the Citadel, if you're not one of the very top dogs, you can't randomly attack another member of the pack and go unpunished. She just made herself useful and was treatead fairly well as a result.
This film is an example of "Wrong place and time". Should've came out about 2 years after Fury Road when the hype surrounding that film was still fresher. Sadly, a decade of bad films starring women with writers, producers, directors, and actors all saying "Fuck off, we don't need you" has made the movie going audience smaller. To the general audience, the fact it's a spin-off has them going "nah, we'll pass". We're all tired of prequels, sequels, spin-offs, remakes. We want something fresh and original. We're just jaded and cynical, esp. after the past decade of the aforementioned "Fuck off, we don't need you" mentality that is plaguing Hollywood.
@@Peter-jl4ki I mean, let’s keep it very real. She kinda co-opted the last movie too, but this time she has to carry the entire film on her back and they still had the absolute audacity to put a mad max saga in the title. Timing in life is everything they say and the timing here was so far off it’s not even funny.
The reason why this was made was because Miller wrote enough material for a trilogy that would be fury road, a prequel that is actualyl the genuine start of the story he wrote in Furiosa, and then a third film thats a sequel to fury road that miller has called the Wasteland that will follow Tom Hardy's Max again. The reason this was made was because Miller wants to tell his full story
But we learned nothing new about Immortal Joe and others in this movie. It almost feels like left over material from Fury Road. He should have just made Mad Max Wasteland instead
I hope people buy the bluray and it makes enough to justify more movies. OVerall I feel this movie will fly under the radar due to the woke stuff in hollywood causing mistrust. Think of Woke stuff as like clickbait youtube video that doens't have what the title describes in it. People feel like this is clickbait. But if they give it a chance maybe it can still make enough to justify the next movie?
@@CoolGobyFish it added a lot of weight and depth to furiosa in fury road. It adds so much to that scene of her mourning the destruction of the green place in fury road. We learned more about the world of the wasteland and saw places that were only referenced in fury road such as the bullet farm and gas town. We got a better understanding of how all of these places interact with each other and what the relationships between immortan joe and the other warlords actually looks like which we basically got none of in fury road. It also provides context for why furiosa and max are able to pull off what they pull off in fury road because the citadel is still massively depleted from the war with dementus and that’s why the other warlords weren’t happy about immortan joe using so many resources just to chase after these women. We also learn why furiosa is looking for redemption because she Carrying the guilt and shame of her mistakes getting (spoiler alert) her mother killed by dementus. It also explains why she’s okay with working for immortan joe when fury road made it look like immortan joe killed her mother when in reality dementus did. It fleshes out so much if the world and the character of furiosa that it makes an already perfect movie (fury road) even better by adding more weight to the events of that film and we the audience understand more why things in fury road affect characters as strongly as they do.
@@ballcapgamer3974 We literally learn nothing new. Miller never really showed The Green Place. Never showed how Citadel or Gastown operate. Never even showed Furiosa's life in Citadel. So what worldbuilding are you talking about?
This is the film that finally made me realize that I just don’t much care for movies anymore. I used to go almost every weekend, sometimes double featuring it, but it’s been months now since I’ve bothered to go the cinema. I used to get angry when Hollywood told me that I’m not dark enough, gay enough, or female enough to watch their films, but I’m past that now. I just don’t care anymore. So maybe Furiousa is good, maybe it’s bad, hell maybe it’s just mid, but it doesn’t matter anymore because I just have no interest in watching movies. So congratulations Hollywood, you got what you wanted, I’m out touching grass.
I'm more apathetic with Hollywood than with movies in general. It's OK that you've moved on, I know lots of people that don't watch films anymore. Hopefully you've found something more meaningful to do with your time.
Movies used to be fundamentally inspirational, with the core vibes being that of 'sacred mythos' when it came to the big action/adventure movies especially. But now they are merely propagandistic vehicles for The Message. A certain group dominates Hollywood and that group has a massive social/political agenda for modern western society, which boils down to them shepherding sheepish kiddults. Most movies/TV are deliberate sheepification nowadays. Ironic that this Mad Max movie doesn't have Mad Max, when Mad Max is/was Mel Gibson, and Mel Gibson is one of the very few people in Hollywood who dares to speak out about that group. And they wrecked his career over it.
I stopped back around 2013ish. I saw Prometheus as a huge fan of Scott and...well I just decided there are decades of older movies I could catch up on. Have not had any regret
Are you sure you don't mean that you don't care for MODERN movies anymore? We're sitting on over 100 years of cinema that's already come and gone and all of those older, well-made and entertaining movies you've never seen are available at the touch of a button. Give up on the newer stuff for sure, but check out some classics and rediscover your love for the art form that way.
It's really quite sad, I just saw this movie in an enormous xtreme screen cinema on the weekend and fucking loved it but there were only like 12 people in the showing. As an Australian I'm so proud that we have George Miller and Baz Luhrmann: 2 absolute visionaries who make the movies they want to make, even in the face of everyone else asking "why". Furiosa is going to stand the test of time as a cult gem, and I really enjoyed how weird and unique and different and utterly brutal it was. It was kind of like smashing elements of Dune, Game of Thrones and, yeah, Mad Max, into one film. I felt a bit of George Lucas prequel vibes, in that, Miller was obviously just like, I don't care if it's brutal and strange and audiences might not like it, I want it to be like this and I don't give a fuk. I love giving my money to visionary unique filmmakers like this who take somewhat ballsy decisions, and I'm sad that it bombed in the box office. It's not "Poor Things" level of unique and odd, it's much more accessible than that, but in its own way these modern Mad Max films just have a whole lot of world building and odd characters and unique flavour that no other modern action films have.
its really sad indeed.. If it had been a success maybe he could churn out one more movie.. but with a bad reception.. I fear Hollywood wont greenlight another madmax before Miller has taken the ticket.. 😥
i dont think so. people dont actually want "leading women"/"tough girls". it was a fad for a short while, nothing more. no way it will be considered good in the future, when the feminism nonsense died out.
Bruh ive been following the production of this movie, it was actually supposed to be made a decade ago but George Miller got cucked by the studio for years
The lengthy gap between the films is probably explained by this 2022 bit from The Telegraph: "In 2017 Miller’s production company filed a $7 million lawsuit against [Warners] over an unpaid production bonus. Miller wants to make two sequels: a Furiosa spin-off with Theron and another Mad Max film, Mad Max: The Wasteland. Both are in suspended animation as the legal case plays out." - so it looks like the film was "on pause" for at least 5 of those 9 years due to the legal shenanigans.
Exactly. Warner sabotaged the entire franchise to weasel out of a few million dollar bonus. It would have been out in 2017 or 2018 if not for that & the Max-centric Wasteland project would’ve been out 2022 or 2023. Just another in a long line of bad WB decisions.
Warners are consistently competing for the title of worst studio in Hollywood. First the stupid DCEU, where the rushed movies to keep release date withing yearly quarters that would earn them extra bonuses, then the Fantastic Beats movies and how they handled the Depp case. Then they were being weasels with Chris Nolan which is why Oppenheimer is a Universal movie. Now this Mad Max thing which I had no idea about.
@@dayoltay Getting older isn't what makes me sad it's that the world is getting worse and worse. I mean I know some of that just comes with and indifferences between the generations but things really have degraded quite a bit in the last 20 years or so.
The film stayed with me after, which was interesting. I now understand why George was writing this as he was making Fury Road. Max’s journey from only being a survivor, to putting himself at risk to help someone else (Furiosa ) not lose themselves in a pointless quest. And this film, Furiosa, about how enduring incredible trauma does not necessarily mean you turn into the traumatic villain. Shakespeare and I really appreciate his ambition. Plus, both are absolute banger, action films.
Plus he breaks the trend of taking spoiled weak people and turning them into fierce warriors through a tragic set of events. Furiosa WAS already a fierce warrior and used what she had to survive that tragic set of events. People complained about her having the name 'Furiosa' before getting taken into this life. But I love it for this very reason. The abuse she went through didn't make the awesomness that she is. The awesomness that she is helped her survive it and not let it shape who she truly is. It's a powerful lesson. And it gives people back her individual value, safe from whatever trauma-or lack thereof- you go through. Your trauma doesn't give you anything. What you have was already yours.
George Miller is a master, and i would guess is not really an insider of the "industry". why not appreciate the commitment this aging man has for the craft of telling the story.
Right, not Miller, but he's still vulnerable to the industry's reputation. If you're Lester Maddux in Pataskala, Ohio, are you willing to risk seeing an action movie with a female lead anymore? Or indeed any movie at all that seventeen people you know haven't already signed off on?
@@lordjimbo2 I think part of being a positive male is being able to be judicious and not prejudice by group think, or just for the sake of being "right" about crappy girl boss movies. This movie should be praised and promotoed to young girls and women, it's another statement of the power women posess, to give life, to nurture, and to fight like a protective mother when needed, and dont forget the ability to NEVER forget or forgive and to exact vengeance as only women can. This movie is perhaps too much of a poision pill of strong feminity for some of the normally on point Drinker review cult. I've yet to hear any good critques of the film on it's own merits.
It’s not *general* apathy… it’s a very specific apathy: too many beloved franchises run into the ground; too many films/shows with bitter, unappealing characters and themes and terrible writing… so now that even though there are finally some good ones… we’ve just had it. We’re done.
Guys are checking out of movies and shows, too... not just society in general. Maybe they shouldn't have spent so much time, effort, and money, showing us how much they h8 us.
Wholeheartedly agree. Why would anyone bother anymore? You literally have to make another Fury Road to get butts in seats. That’s the standard it takes now. And if you can’t create a miracle of modern filmmaking then no one is coming. We hate you, Hollywood. You’ve ruined everything good. Why would anyone get invested in anything you put out anymore? You’re just going to destroy it with greed, avarice, and a sense of high-minded entitlement. Fuck off, Hollywood.
It's a combination of everything. Streaming, ticket prices, movie theaters just not being what they used to be, (meaning they're kind of run down and a lot of times other audience members are annoying), all the terrible movies that have come out in the past decade or so, all this is led to a distrust and disinterest in Hollywood and movies in general.
Same, the wrighters, the actors, the producers, the directors, all have treated the common man with contempt. Hollywood deserves nothing but bankruptcy.
@@ph8077 Use your big boy brain and try to think about this. Millions of people not paying for Hollywood movies....leads to? That's right! Their stock goes down in flames and their investors abandon them! It's already happening to major companies like Disney and Netflix. Good job buddy ole pal! Proud of you for working that one out and getting the ole noggin joggin🤣
From memory, Miller had always planned for Fury Road to be followed by two films, with the scripts already written by the time production had ended. One of these at least was for Furiosa, and the other a Mad Max film with Tom hardy. The reason for the delay on a sequel was due to legal issues with Warner Brothers, who tried to screw Miller out of bonuses for coming under budget. Post completion, WB made extra demands, wanting the film to be 3D to meet the cinema trend at the time, and apparently made sure the budget blew out to profit themselves. There were other shenanigans as well, with WB claiming breach of contract, claiming Miller was supposed to deliver a PG13 film, and a 100 minute run time. So the delay isn't Miller's fault, but once again due to studios meddling with visionaries, and thinking they know best, then screwing them over in the process.
He planned Mad Max for 5 films but Mel quit after 3's abysmal return. No scripts were written and this was the days before studio contracts became a standard in the industry. George isn't the smartest man as he's proved to be fallible.
@HolaMundoTheMisteriousAG Yeah, meaning it's a relatively new idea. It also originally involved Mel, but he didn't get involved. For reasons. George should've left it alone. Just like Ridley Scott and George Lucas. James isn't involved in Terminator anymore. We can be thankful that he didn't make any flops in the series. You either let it go and laugh at the ineptitude of lesser artists or hold on tight until you become delusional that your terrible ideas are still great. There's no in-between or happy medium anymore.
Far as I recall, nobody was especially enthusiastic about a prequel about Furiosa back when it was sort-of-announced, some 8 years ago. Since then, Hollywood managed to thoroughly poison the well regarding female led action films, and Mad Max as a franchise returned back to its coffin, so I'm hardly surprised it's not doing all that well. Also, the original film was made on a budget that probably would not even cover a day of catering for this one.
Funny how when you know what you're doing, it doesn't require a massive budget. A man, a shotgun, a supercharged V-8. What's not to love there? Easy peasy. But Hollywood today? Let's spend $200M elevating DEI in movies and earn back $2M and get our media friends to tells us how great it is.
@@Raskolnikov70I seriously doubt that lol. Fury Road wasn’t exactly a cash printing machine and there wasn’t really anyone begging for Furiosa prequel.
I agree... I liked Fury Road - but I thought the world building was really thin, and I wanted to know whats up.. Now I know.. and I feel a rewatch of Fury Road will be all the more poignant now!
I mean if they showed people polishing those cars to every last detail and part of it, that would make a lot more sense since the gas trucks in that universe are scarce obviously
I'd say in this universe where vehicles and gasoline are basically a religion they would take very good care of their machines and with all the time on their hands with would modern society distractions they have lots of time to keep them polished up and sparkle.
@@TundraCrow sorry but you are absolutely wrong just ask people living in the desert like dubai the dust and sand is brutal it gets everywhere no matter how much you clean
Nerdrotic said it best: “The girl-boss era of Hollywood [which Fury Road helped create] has done more damage to female characters than any real misogynist could ever do”
@birdsrcoolxc34 I can only think of 3 characters that are black and it doesn’t matter that they are. This is exactly what I’m talking about. People have gone from legitimate gripes about DEI and Hollywood to not being able to enjoy actually well made movies because they’re looking for anything that might be construed as part of “the message”.
sad but you are very correct. Last good movie I thought was worth the ticket price is The Equalizer 3. that's it. Well i did like The Northman but that all i have thought was worth the buck and that's including annything in the last 8 years.
No matter how Furiosa is playing chests or slaughtering bad guys , she invariably holds the same boring poker face. This is not acting , it's having an uncommon face and gambling everything on it.
I'd have to say one of the biggest factors is box office wariness. It's not so much the money, but time that people are being more protective of & the fact that they cannot trust the sources they used to for an honest preview of a film. If they're streaming something at home, they can just turn it off if it feels like a waste. In a theater though, you've invested more than just the time of the movie. You've invested getting everyone to the theater & back, which either took your own gas or the cost of an Uber. You've stood in line for tickets & concessions. You've gotten to your theater which in some towns there's only one screen and others have a multiplex so it might take 10mins to get from the concessions to the theater. People think I'm insane for pointing this out and that I'm nitpicking, but all of that adds up and people want to have assurances that they aren't wasting all that. So now here comes the second arm of the problem; they can't get honesty from mainstream sources anymore. From being called names, told we can touch grass if we don't like, ignored so they can shill for big corporations to get access, and flat out lied to about the actual contents of the IP itself, why waste valuable time, money, and brain cells on an industry that has firmly told us to go fornicate ourselves?
Exactly. If i spend time and more importantly precious hard earned money on going out to anything, im def going to make sure its worth the effort and money lost. And id i much rather go to a family movie with my baby and make an experiance out of it. I can stream more adult stuff at home and eat my food and get cheaper drinks from the store.
Spot on take. There is so much crap made today, streaming is the only safe option. We give a movie about 4-5 minutes now to see if it is worth our precious time. Paying big bucks at the theater is too risky.
Streaming is probably eating up some of the revenue too, why go to the movies when companies release it on streaming services a few months later Hollywood became a snake eating its own tail
I work with several people in their 20s. None of them had ever heard of Mad Max when I told them I was going to see Furiosa this weekend. There is a serious marketing problem in Hollywood.
I think that the world's entertainment sources are so fragmented nowadays which makes it more difficult to market to a mass audience. Gone are the days where everybody could only watch a select few TV channels and see a movie trailer.
must be early 20s and im guessing their tastes lie on the either the braindead mainstream woke disney/marvel/netflix/avatar/barbie movie side, or maybe those whom have a film genre named after their 'descent' and have thusly developed the progressive belief that they shouldn't watch a movie or relate to a character if they aren't a color representing themself. Cuz anyone by all rights shouldve at least heard of this movie.
I really enjoyed this movie! Felt just because the universe has one guy's name in it doesn't mean the universe can't exist with him being 100% present like the world around him lives whether he happens to be there or not imo
This movie was made because George Miller wanted to make it. It wasn't made by a studio focused only on making as much money as possible. It was held up because WB and George Miller had a dispute over bonus pay, so it took a long time to negotiate a deal for a new movie. And to be honest, there's a chance that positive word of mouth will give this movie a boost, and give it a bit of a late-week surge. People saw 'female-led action spinoff' and rolled their eyes, expecting the worst.
@@charliedehn3587 Meh, it's a shame that people are so easily led by bro podcasters and Fox News and shit and can't think for themselves when new movies come out anymore. Furiosa's dope, it's made by a director with a great track record, everybody liked the character when Fury Road came out, and it's been well known for years that it was about Furiosa and not Max. Personally, I think this has less to do with wokeism and it's more like just an industry issue we've been seeing across the board since the pandemic started and trained everyone to just wait for everything to come out on streaming. Every now and then something will come along that's so good it can't be ignored, like Dune Part Two, but ultimately this trend is happening tons of great movies regardless of whether it's female-led or not. You just only notice the female-led ones because it confirms the narrative you've been trained to believe by the media you voraciously consume because you love feeling like a victim, like all of Hollywood's got it out for you when they really don't.
@@woojoow Uh.. No, part of the problem is people dismissing this issue as if """"wokeism"""" is a real issue. It is, people are being hand-fed, propagantist garbage, so when you finally have an actually good movie with a wonderful female lead, no one watches it. Genuine talent and art is being buried because of all the f*cking trash being forced out, and i'm so fu*cking sick of seeing genuinely good female led movies, or anything that would traditionally be seen as "woke" but literally not made with that in mind, solely making good characters and a story, and them being completely overlooked because people are so burnt out and tired of this bullsh*t. I don't get excited at any mainstream media, because I know i'm blatantly being pandered too as an lgbt woman, and it's f*cking demeaning and patronizing. So, yeah, you kinda get the point. The Fox News and bro podcasters are cancerous sh*t, but """"wokeism"""" is very real, and it's blatantly spitting in the face OF minorities while we just drink it aallll uppp.
@@woojoow Good directors too often get crappy when they get old enough. Clint Eastwood did Unforgiven (masterpiece), but also Gran Torino (crap).George Miller is another. Fury Road...but also this stinker.
Am I the only one missing the expertly shot and mostly practical action scenes of the predecessor? All this new weightless CGI overload didn’t really do it for me in this movie
Right there with ya. I can't even remember the last movie I was actually excited for; they all feel like the same thing with a slightly different coat of paint.
I can confirm. I hardly care what is in the movie theater nowadays. I'm lucky to see one movie a year in theater and it has been this way for almost a decade.
Yep same here. I've never been a huge movie guy but I used to go to the movies once every month or two months. In the past ten years it's about once a year and in that time I only really liked two of the films I saw (Edge of Tomorrow and 1917).
There's a few things I can think of for the box office underperformance: 1. Early talk about it was that some of the CGI was poor, and the access media used the same excuse that they used for The Flash movie- "It was meant to be bad", lol. 2. I bet a lot of people are getting real tired of prequels/sequels/reboots, etc. Prequels in particular are annoying, and something I myself don't care to see. 3. People (both men and women) are super tired of girlbosses. While it sounds like ATJ's Furiosa isn't one, a usual warning sign is a woman taking over for a man in a franchise. But whether or not her being a woman specifically played into it, Hollywood's recent track record has got to have hurt the movie.
It's all out the reasons people have spoken of. For me, I'm just fed up with Hollywood. They can't shut up. I really don't want to hear their non stop trashing of my country, my family, my religion and other aspects that made this country great. I don't care that they don't agree with me or the above views. I just am tired of paying someone to talk trash about me. They are our employees not the other way around. So they can just go away. They never seem to learn the lessons.
What a load of rubbish. People won't see it because it's a prequel? People will want to see a good movie "Do you want to watch Furiosa?" "Yeah definitely it looks awesome... actually, isn't it a prequel?" Nah.
I think it's actually a bit sad, that the movie flopped. It isn't half bad, it's made for the cinema, the story is ok for Mad Max standards, and the heroine is likeable. There was even a decent male role in the film, and they didn't make him black or gay.
The closest was when Dementus made the black guy wear whiteface to be a fake war boy. I'm sure many articles have been written about it being some kind of subtext.
General audiences don't trust Hollywood to entertain them anymore. With rare exceptions, many people are turning away from mainstream entertainment to alternative sources.
@@GaryCrant And then? People know that it will be an outlier, cause Reynolds had a lot of say in this afaik. Nobody trusts Disney that DP3 will be the turning point, on the contrary, they have made it clear they won't change their ways, regardless of what Iger says and promises for a year now.
@@DarkSun123456789 companies who want to make money will always change according to their customer base. Even without Disney there will always be another great Hollywood movie
I didn't know how bad I wanted to see 'Old Man Max' until you said it. Damn, that would be awesome. Whether they tie it in or not, would bring great closure to a character and bring some overarching plot point and continuity for the rest of the franchise.
the franchise doesn't need continuity, mad max is more like a myth or legend. he just passes through, gets stuck in someone else's problem, helps them out in a badass way, and moves on with his own journey, disappearing into the wasteland. and johnnym is right, mel is waaaaaay too old to get into an action movie like this now, they would have to jump cut everything to death like liam neeson in taken.
@@jonnym4670He's 68. Maybe too old for a leading man role but definitely not too old for old Mad Max. If anything, he's naturally weathered which could add to the role. The stunts don't always mean he is hanging off the back of a tanker. George Miller is smart enough to write a script that could incorporate his age into the script like James Mangold did for Logan. It could be pretty damn awesome.
@@DoroteoVilla He could do it. Just dope him up with vitamins and testosterone. Then he can hire himself a trainer and go all-in on the John Wick training.
This movie was flat out great! Anyone who loved Fury Road should see this. Only George Miller can make a movie like this and I shouldn’t have doubted him.
Never say never. They're gonna have to do the right thing sooner or later. Hollywood has to bring home the bacon somehow & what they're doing now isn't cutting it.
@@ZyliceLiddell Even though he hasn't actually stated it, it's so obvious he was only doing the marvel films for the paycheck for those last few films at least when he started to say he didn't like how Thor Ragnarok turned out. He's probably embarrassed he stayed in that terrible franchise for so long even if the money was so good.
Also, if I recall correctly, when the War Boys see Dementus coming with his acolytes, one of them asks "is this Valhalla?" haha I bet when they were brainwashed by Inmortan Joe they never expected to see Thor in the Wasteland.
@@KyzirGordon It is worth it. I watched it twice in IMAX. The action scenes were beautifully put together and I just love how steady Miller keeps the camera still and centred, despite the absolute savagery and mayhem witness on screen.
This is a damn good movie. The reason it’s not doing well at the theaters has nothing to do with the quality. I waited to see it on streaming in case I needed to turn it off , because it got too “Girl Boss”. It didn’t. There is nothing woke about Furiosa. She never stands toe to toe with a man. She shoots them or runs them over. Which is cool. Is it as good as Fury Road?No, but not many are. We have so few good action movies these days you shouldn’t miss this one.
“Apathy is death. Worse than death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects.” Me:"welcome to the consequences of all your actions and sins. And you know the funny part? It's gonna get worse."
“That's the big danger, and there's eventually going to be an implosion-or a big meltdown. There's going to be an implosion where three or four or maybe even a half-dozen megabudget movies are going to go crashing into the ground, and that's going to change the paradigm,” Steven Spielberg. - 2013
Fury Road was so amazing in IMAX, that I watched it three times. I watched Furisoa opening weekend because so much of the movie is cropped when it hits Blu-ray. This movie is definitely an experience in IMAX… the scenes are so massive!
I really appreciate how they had one shot of Max in the movie, but it's only a foreshadowing shot from behind like the shot of him in the opening of Fury Road. They didn't get Tom Hardy back, but instead they used his body double from Fury Road. It's kind of charming, and a way to give the body double top credit for playing Max in one of the films.
Prequels rarely ever work, because you know which people got plot armor and which haven't... I mean, they can still be interesting, but you'll never get that sense of suspense and thrill, fearing your favorite character might have a tragic ending, if you already know that character has to be alive in the original...
I think Andor did it quite well by using the fact you already know *his* end, but not the end of any of the other characters in the show, save for Mon Mothma. Besides for the main character, anyone can die at any time, and the stake comes from how such things will impact Cassian's journey to where he is in Rogue One.
Personally, I kind of enjoy that aspect of them, maybe I'm just weird. When there's a character introduced in a prequel, there's a kind of dramatic irony that comes with them. Praetorian Jack in this film is the obvious one, you know he's doomed from the start, but the how and why, that's what keeps me invested.
@kekibannmi6054 _"Someone needs to write a prequel where the "lead" that even has the right name and goes through the whole movie just to get wiped at the last moment to be replaced with a side character the steals their clout..."_ This reminds me of Death Race.
I don't know if Drinker watches every movie in theatres, but watching Furiosa at at the cinema was a refreshingly good experience for me! Some real effort went into keeping the movie engaging. I actually loved the first 45 mins, watching kid furiosa in action was a delight. The directing choices for the character was good throughout. This movie stands out from the hollywood garbage heap atleast.
Nobody talks enough about this. I'm looking to take my daughter to go see a movie and it will end up costing like $60 for a 2 hour movie that I'll stream in a few weeks. Meanwhile, steam had a sale where I can buy 2 copies of Enshrouded or whatever, and that will cost the same for 10s of hours entertainment
@@norm-bb3bb Must be a pretty good theater then, the only one where I live costs like $20 bucks a piece for tickets and if you want any refreshments you're just screwed. Can buy like 3-4 movies for the price of taking 2 people out to see it with minimal extras, which plays a large role in why I bother going to see at most 1 movie a year if I bother at all.
The best thing about this film was how it wasn't afraid to beat the shit out of their female protagonist lead to strengthen her character and make the audience root for her. She loses constantly and it wasn't until the end she manages to win through grit and determination. Lucasfilm, take note.
Its still completely ridiculous. Grit and determination doesn't make a 90lb female a badA$$. This is still ridiculous girl bossing at its worst. Its just not quite as nonsensical and stupid as most girl boss movies.
There's also no moment where a woman beats multiple men bare handed, which, even with cool fighting styles, the difference in physique make it look wrong.
@@mechanicalsilence1 she's also not perfect in the beginning and treated as a misunderstood perfect person by a society that 'has to learn to just doesn't understand her'. Instead the film brutally demonstrates she's a fuckup and just as likely to be mauled to death in the wasteland as anyone else, so she's forced to learn to strategize to survive.
Well said. People are just tired of endless remake, woke, superheroes and same old crap. Hollywood needs a huge reset but I think they will keep digging their hole deeper and deeper until they finally figure out. 😂
Their biggest mistake was spending too much time on Furiosa as a child and not enough on her relationship with Praetorian Jack, who was a standout in the movie. The lack of resolution and the somewhat meandering final confrontation also hurt it. But overall it's a very good movie, albeit only targeted at Fury Road fans.
Yes, spent too much time on her as a child, and like everyone else this movie is like 7 years too late. Also I think more would have seen what she was doing after she took the Citadel and how she would get control over The Bullet Farm and Gastown.
THIS. Praetorian Jack is the most interesting character in the movie. He’s literally the only character Furiosa loved (aside from her mother). I feel like he actually originally had a bigger role in the movie, but his storyline was swept under the rug somewhere during the post-production. The ending just felt off with Furiosa (and the movie) not acknowledging how important Jack was to her. I read that Jack was supposed to be played by Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, but was replaced by Tom Burke because of scheduling conflicts. I’m pretty convinced that the studio decided to axe his character because he’s now played by a white man, judging on the overly feminist undertone of the ending.
@@sorenmn6799 That sounds odd but I wouldn't put it past them. I didn't even know Tom Burke was in the movie, the trailers did a terrible job not showcasing that aspect of the story. By the way, the only scene were I thought the CGI was terrible was the one with the fire coming from behind her at The Bullet Farm's gate and that shot was everywhere during promotion.
This is an excellent point. He talked about helping her with building her skills. But then did not show any of that. People are suggesting she is not a Mary Sue, but it does not show her being trained by her mother either on how to be great with a sniper rifle. At least George Miller alluded to she was trained by mother, and Jack to become extremely competent.
@@earlybird3668 Now that is something I didn't think all the way through because I know she was trained by them so We can assume she was trained by them, they just skipped over it. But to the rest of the people lets say not the biggest Mad Max fans wouldn't put 2 and 2 together and thought how is she so good at sniping and go straight to the thought of Mary Sue.
I can only answer for myself, and I'm sorry if this sounds bad in any way, which I'm sure it will. Personally, I'm sick of playing a samurai game in Japan with a black samurai, or playing a scoundrel game in Star Wars with a fearless woman, or watching a Mad Max movie without Max. I don't care about Furiosa. I don't care about the expansion of her story. I stayed at home watching a fan film called Hope and Glory. A true Mad Max story. It's wonderful, I recommend it. I'm not misogynistic, racist, sexist or anything like that. I'm just talking with my wallet about supporting pieces of culture that speak to me in some way, not a forced insertion.
I found the scene where she is stolen from the vault where all the women are kept by Joe. They just sort of gloss over her escape and that there are no repercussions from her disappearing.
Mad Max is the main character of the franchise, but he's not really meant to have much development beyond helping people and then leaving (with the exception of the first film). In that essence, it IS an accurate Mad Max film.
It was marketed as a standalone Furiosa movie in english speaking countries too. Also, anyone who knows the franchise is aware that only the first one was about max, and that the other ones were about some people in the wastelands, with max somehow getting involved in their story. In Road Warrior, he even looks really frustrated because he gets caught up in that compound's turf fight with the warband. The only people who are upset that the movie isn't about max are people who know nothing about the franchise.
@@OWnIshiiTrolling I mean there is truth to that but I do think because we haven't gotten a movie that really centered around finishing the mad Max story people are kind of annoyed that they would do a prequel instead of finish that story first. Especially 10 years after the last one I mean that is not good timing at all.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu I don't think there is such a thing as "finishing the mad max story." The mad max movies are a bunch of movies in the same setting, with no tangible continuity between movies, apart from Fury Road and Furiosa. They are just individual stories, as told by an unreliable history man. The expectation of a consistent cinematic universe is misplaced.
@@OWnIshiiTrollingpreach. It’s just people that won’t to include “woke and girlboss” in a topic but can’t seem to stomach separating from terrible Hollywood movie trends and just talking about the highs and lows of the movie in general for their most of their lost in the sauce audience. He should have just talked about the movie as a whole instead trying to shoehorn in “the message” any chance he can get without it being present. Happens in all his good reviews. It’s actually a bit annoying. I don’t wanna hear “well Hollywood and its trends.” Excuse because being obsessed with it is no better than woke being obsessed with its ideology. I like critical drinker’s content but he gotta separate from the political commentary when it’s not presented in content he is reviewing if it is by all means talk about it.
Mad max was in this film - When she is walking in the desert alone after having her arm removed there is a Shot of Max and his car eating then turning and looking at furiosa collapse. She is then dragged away by max
Didn't see that, what they showed was, He was next to his Falcon on top of a high cliff, watching the marauders on their bikes way below riding across the desert.
@@kramrollin69 when it cuts to her being dragged she was alone being watched by max suggesting Max Moved her to the vicinity of the Maggot lady where she wakes up in the next scene
2015: how can there be a mad max movie without mel gibson? 2024: how can there be a mad max movie without mad max? 2033: how can there be a mad max movie without the mad max universe?
Overall, it was an enjoyable movie. The young woman playing Furiosa was lovely and capable. Rather than just girl-boss her way, she used guile and intelligence to navigate her way through the perils of the wasteland. My only question afterwards was, is her name Furiosuh, or Furiosahhh?
The problem is that Hollywood has lost the trust of the audience. That WW2 movie: who wants to see the orange man bad character shoehorned into WW2. Fall Guy: who wants to see the White guy get showed up throughout the movie and reduced to caricature. Furiosa: Girl Boss pushing The Message for 2 hours. Does that describe any of those movies. I have no idea, it doesnt matter. Audiences dont TRUST Hollywood to not do any of that. Losing the trust of your customers is a slippery slope, slowly at first and then all at once.
Exactly. And I've sat through watching the current Hollywood regime ruin Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Thor, The Hulk, Indiana Jones and Rick Deckard. And I for one am thankful Mel Gibson isn't in this movie. They had Mad Max in Fury Road and they did nothing with him there. He was a passive character getting dragged along. Fury Road was a Furiosa movie. And her arc closed out. I do not need a movie to see how she got enslaved and got a her robot arm. Just like I don't need to see how Han Solo got his name and his Mauser pistol. Wtf!
@valentinegonsalves7322 Wait, how did they ruin Deckard? Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic. And Harrison Ford actually kinda looked like he was trying with his performance, a rare thing in the latter stages of his career. What was your complaint?
Drinker seems to have left out what I consider key points. 1) A lawsuit Miller had with WB is why this movie is coming out so much later. 2) In one fell swoop, Miller and his writing team drafted three stories before ever shooting a single frame of Fury Road: The Wasteland (I think this is a prequel, too), Fury Road, and Furiosa. He claims this helped them tell a more cohesive and plausible story in FR because they knew everything that happened leading up to it. At one point there was speculation the two films would be filmed back to back. The question that really irks me, though, is why did we get Furiosa instead of the Wasteland? A different point that I want to make, too, is it seems Furiosa fell into a similar trap as Thunderdome. Road Warrior and Fury Road both have minimal plots and focus on visuals and epic car chase scenes, and don't really offer much exposition for world building, which is what I presume most think is quintessential Mad Max. Thunderdome and Furiosa, however, try to introduce more world building in and show different sides of the Wasteland that don't exclusively revolve around Gasoline and Car chases.
I think the minimalist exposition with cars, gas, desolation, and violence did an excellent job on world building. A case of less is more. I think that's what captures the imagination in any fantasy world. Just letting the audience's imagination have something to play with.
@@docmcquack7252 Agreed. The world building is present but it's much more visual and implied with dialogue, rather than expositionally detailed. Seeing Gastown and The Bullet Farm didn't really do much for me...everything you need to know about them is learned in Fury Road.
There's also another aspect. Any time someone sees that a preexisting franchise is now using a female lead, everyone assumes it's going to be yet another girl power movie, and decides to pass on it.
It's fair to discuss the politics of why it's coming out now, but I don't think it's a key point for this vid. And the fact that he wrote these movies back with Fury Road also isn't that important. Tolkien wrote entire books-worth of notes before writing LotR but that's not really relevant except insofar as it helped him make LotR feel more grounded. And while I would normally never lower myself to this level, I actually agree with the Nostalgia Critic; Thunderdome gets too much guff when it really is a huge part of the Mad Max aesthetic and has more memorable scenes and lines than Road Warrior does.
I absolutely hate these post-apocalypse movies where people, equipment, and scenery look "clean". I love older movies, Escape from NY, Mad Max, etc. because there's real grit to it. Here- a person will be living in a hell hole for years and still look shockingly well groomed and have make-up on. Trucks here look way to clean. Scenery...just weirdly clean. Idk, that's what took me out of it
I'm still trying to figure out how she builds a fully functional robotic arm from scraps that works better than an prosthetic that can be made with the best electronics and technology today.
Miller spoke to this point in an interview. He said in a post apocalyptic world people still take pride in creating things and still have art. It more like a collage of preexisting objects.
@@Mereologist None of the contraptions that anyone makes or maintains in this universe has any real business actually working. They're operating on Ork logic to enable the setting.
Weird how they made the bad guy a bearded, masculine, vaguely patriarchal looking normal man. And what else would they call it to signify they it takes place in this universe? Mad Max is the title of the first film, it has been in every film since. There just isn't a better term to signify this universe, and if they don't tell the audience that it's a gun in the Mad Max universe a lot of them won't go see it. Personsally i think the Road Warrior name is far more appropriate to the franchise overall, but it's too late. And it doesn't have the same recognition.
I just think it’s cool that the same guy has directed all of the Max films over 45 years. And how the original started out as a pretty small scale film about basically some gangs in an eroded society to now pretty extensive universe. And I think it’s hilarious that we don’t know for sure whether the new movies are reboots or sequels. Also, the same guy (George Miller) directed Happy Feet.
I'm literally Indigo Montoya in Princess Bride, when every "epic" movie is selling itself as a "Saga". "I do not think the word means what you think it means."
2:44 "Want to know how she lost her arm and replaced it with a metal one? Want to know more about her relationship with Immortan Joe? Want to know how she came to be in command of the war rig?" Yeah that sounds pretty cool. "Nah me neither." Oh.
Can you give just one reason why Furiousa is supposedly a "girlboss". This is just further evidence that you doofuses just don't like any female protagonist.
@@tdvcyt2534 Nope; They have built a horrible track record with Female leads. They deserve the bed they've made. If you want to push horrible feminism, then you get what you deserve.
Similar to, if Sergio Leone had extended his "Dollars Trilogy" without "The Man With No Name." Instead, the new films focused on the back stories of "Marisol, "Tuco", "or "Angel Eyes." I wouldn't say those would be bad films either. You would be aware of that one central element that was missing. That's the closest analogy I can think of at the moment.
I like to pretend "death rides a horse" is the prequel gb&u starring angel eyes. If i stretch it, i can even convince myself "duck you sucker" is a sequel to it, with juan being an older tuco
that's kind of Once Upon a Time in America was. Sergio Leone without any of the fun, humor, charisma or lightheartedness of the dollars trilogy. If you never saw them, you'd never know how much worse Once Upon a Time in America was
The Drinker is missing one of his usual good observations here. The girl boss is awesome without earning it. She starts as a little girl who is awesome and becomes a woman who is awesome.
I think it can be inferred that she was taught by her mother who displays girl bossing too. Plenty of male-led movies you could say this about too, all you have to go on is their backstory.
The film had some great moments but the connection to Mad Max felt forced. It's confusing when films attach themselves to a franchise for no apparent narrative reason. It's a shame that original storytelling isn't always prioritized and marketability tends to win out.
Furiosa was the protagonist of Fury Road. There is a whole bunch of characters that were in Fury Road. There are places that were seen and mentioned in Fury Road. There are stories being told that were mentioned in Fury Road. Booom, there you have it, a connection to Mad Max. What's so forced about it again? What's so forced about a direct prequel for the main character of the previous movie?
Yeah, it ain't all sunshine and roses right now, I'll tell you that. I run a local cinema in Sweden. Even the megaplexes are having problems. It's a shame, because with the right movies, cinema is in my opinion the best way to enjoy a movie. Much easier to concentrate on the story than in the couch at home.
@@maxkurtson9892 not really people speak and go piss all the time that’s without the people opening cans of beer I totally hate the regular cinema I only go in the week days or in the VIP section when you have space and not much people to disturb you
Not only are the movies sub par now, the ticket and food prices are unaffordable for the majority of people. They won't be around in ten years at least here in the UK I'd bet my life on it.
Sit-down cinema is as old as motion pictures themselves. With all the alternative ways to view a film, it's a wonder any movie theaters still do business, especially given the razor-thin margin the studios and the distribution corps allow them. Sure, you get the giant screen and auditorium-rocking sound, but you also get: High ticket prices, high refreshment prices, and long, slow lines for both, filthy auditoriums, rude, noisy, obnoxious crowds, the drive there, the parking lot (and all the hazards that implies in an increasingly dangerous world; even Batman's parents found that out), filthy, semi-functional bathrooms... At home, for a modest investment, you can have a pretty decent home entertainment setup, movies you can pause to answer your phone (or a call of nature), relatively affordable foods *you* choose, seating as clean and as comfortable as you make them... When I think of a movie at a theater, I also think of buggy whips. =9[.]9=
The only way that could work would be if someone did a faithful Hound of the Baskervilles movie, and even then it would require the writers to not abuse Watson.
Are we reading the same titles? The movie is titled as Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga. Also Mad Max barely had any dialogue in Fury Road and the story was about Furiosa.
This is a very good Mad Max world telling story. Chris Hemsworth is one good bad guy. And Furiosa's story is told very well. And there is a sort of mad max replacement in the story and he gave me the mad max vibes. I say go see it. It's quite a gem and worth every penny of your money.
I'll be honest, as refreshingly simple and fun as this movie is, a spinoff about Furiosa should have come out a DECADE ago. This is the definition of striking while the iron is ICE COLD.
Man.. I was waiting to see Hardy again for years so I am still dissapointed...
There isn't even an iron to strike anymore. The forge was moved ages ago.
At least this will be a neat movie for people who haven't seen the fury road yet. So they can watch this one before that. I guess.
That was the original plan to film these back ti back but it proved to difficult then george miller planned to make an animated film but no animation company could do it. Then it was planned to come out in 2019 or 2020 but then covid happened.
Too many shitty girl boss movies since Fury Road, and people don't fall in that bait and switch trick anymore.
Doesn't anyone remember the last Mad Max movie was basically a Furiosa movie anyway...
It was and it wasn't. They were craftier about the messaging back then.
Exactly
Don't tell em. Some of these guys need a narrative to push
The road warrior wasn't really about Max either. He just helped that group out.
Yep. And he never even got to drive the Interceptor…
I think the biggest mistake this movie made was coming out almost a decade after Fury Road's hype had all but dried up. Imagine how much more buzz this film would have gotten if it was released in 2017 or even 2019.
That would be impossible to make another movie so quickly and keep the same quality, and even if it did, it would be garbage. Who would want that?
@Jdn__0001 that doesn't make sense. You just said it wouldn't be the same quality, and, even if it did, it would be garbage. Unless you're referring to the story itself, that's a contradiction.
@@Jdn__0001 Negative. This movie had been shelved for years because Miller was suing WB.
He said that in the video
Yeah I agree.
I love how everytime she looks back and tries to help people she cares about she is punished. She turns back for her mother and is taken by Dementus. She turns back for Pratorean Jack and loses her arm and again isn’t able to return to the Green Place. Then in Fury Road basically the whole movie is her turning back to save the wives and she’s punished by learning the green place is gone after 20 years of hope. She eventually is rewarded when Immortan Joe dies and she can lead the Citadel
I thought it'd be much better if she actually ran away in praetorian scene, would have been some character development since being a child, to me it felt like a failure to learn on her own mistakes, seeing how she squandered other's attempts to help her. Did it feel to you like it was just a part of her character, whereby she is a person who doesn't leave others behind sort of thing ?
@@kirilllipskii8157 I think it’s just her character to never leave anyone behind. She does eventually learn in Fury Road when Splendid falls off the rig and Max says he saw her go under the wheels to keep moving but she needed confirmation before turning back and again facing the consequences of doing so.
yeah, whats up with that ? what sense does it make? For someone seeking to return to a peaceful quiet life to suddenly become a warlord opressing people and intimidating rivals?
Dammit, spoiler warning. 🤣🤣🤣
Thats indeed a very good thing about this movie she takes more damage then she causes others she is basically a shield
I never once considered why Furiosa had a mechanical arm in Fury Road. What's to wonder about? Look at the world she inhabits. You're lucky to be alive!
I mean the previous movie had a character that was literally a guy standing on top of another guy, i didnt bat an eye that furiosa had a mechanical arm
wanna bet that in 3rd prequel we'll learn the metal arm was made by the man that hit the nukes, who also was gran-gran...-gran father of the either main chick or main bad white male and it all has to neatly be connected. Also remember that razor that was used to shave her head? It will also have a backstory, because why the f not.
Agreed. With all the insanely awesome action scenes, he whines about the mechanical arm? Wtf. Sounds a like a grandma that always finds something to complain about. Brutal.
I didn't even remember her name in the first movie.
To be fair, her getting a mechanical arm in Furiosa wasn't done as a cheap reference to Fury Road. It was integrated into the story quite well, and shows how Dementus didn't just take her home and her mentor, but also physically impacted her. It's also very symbolic of him taking away her agency throughout the entire movie. Her losing her forearm while watching her mentor dying, and her having to stumble back to the citadel also shows how broken she is, both physically and mentally, because of Dementus.
If Fury Road didn't exist, her losing her arm and building a new one would still be meaningful, and it would still be symbolic of her overcoming her agency being taken away by Dementus, and ultimately taking revenge. The arm not being a big deal in Fury Road makes it even better, because it means something in relation to Dementus, not in relation to Immortan Joe. The mechanical forearms only means something in the movie where it is expanded upon.
I think that it was a very good way of showing the backstory of a character, in a way that respects both the audience and the source material. George Miller put a lot of people to shame by making a good action movie with a female protagonist, that was also a prequel. This movie does what many franchises failed to do.
Time flies. In my mind I thought Fury Road came out only like 4 years ago.
For me lockdown years have just been erased from memory so 2015 seems like 5-ish yrs ago
I know! When people said Fury Road came out almost a decade ago, I thought “no way” looked it up.
😳 Yeah pretty much.
@@mrmaori5769 I know right? I recently bought a gaming laptop and started playing games i missed for many years and was like " Modern Warfare came in 2019? Witcher 3 came in 2015? How? When?
Exact same reaction.
I feel this 100% the last 4 years have went by in the blink of an eye.
It's 100% the apathy towards Hollywood. They lost our trust so much that we aren't even willing to go see the good movies. The era of Hollywood movies is over.
not only movies but entertainment in general, gaming is also facing severe backlash in these days
I think this has a lot to do with it, as an audience we are so prepared for a film to be terrible, that we assume they all are until proven otherwise, but often at that point it is too late.
Capitalism has finally destroyed hollywood, let's see what's next
@@CallMeMrXvery true
Also, lets just be real, post pandemic, most people across the globe are economically screwed. Most people just don't have the time and the money. In Asia, watching a movie in the theatre usually meant a day out. You get friends and family, go watch a movie and then eat a meal together. Not anymore.
Also, you know for a fact its gonna be on streaming in a month.
Dementus was such a fun character.
Reminded me of some of Alan Rickman's iconic villains.
And deserved a better ending acene, than the woke Hollywood ending.
@@anthonylynch4737Bruh what???
@@anthonylynch4737 Yup they made him look like a coward and weak horrible ending. 100lb girl took him out and was beating on him strong woman activated made my stomach turn the way it ended. The rest of the movie was good and believable but the way they ended dementus did not make this movie epic.
@@jamie30701 Disgraceful ruined it.Hemswoth deserved better with a great performance,..Should have ended like Mad Max 1 when she could have said as a homage "cut through your arm to escape the petrol about to.imfite, after chaining him to the vehicle about to explode..
No one seems to remember that Fury Road was not a box office hit when it came out. Yeah, everyone who saw it loved it, but not many people actually saw it.
i saw it and didn't loved it.
I still havent seen it.
And that’s relevant how?
The Critical Drinker did acknowledge Fury Road was not profitable.
I didn't like it. Original Mad Max was cheesy and kinda awesome and actually had Mad Max as a protagonist in it. Fury Road was already infected with the strong female lead-ism by then anyway.
Given the stream of subpar "girl-boss" movies polluting the pool, it's no surprise people aren't willing to wade in the muck to find out if Furiousa is a gem.
I don't need to watch it to know it's not a Gem..
It's a shame, as Furiosa is a fantastic film! Definitely recommend seeing it on the big screen - it's a fun, epic ride for sure. Lots of creative action set pieces like in Fury Road. And a very fun chaotic villain role for Chris Hemsworth. I think you have to approach the films with different mindsets though. Fury Road is a high-octane, simple and straightforward action masterpiece. This film is more of an epic odyssey with slower pacing but more world building.
@@jackhammer0101it's amazing actually, watched in 4d, was very immersive
It's an awesome gem. Miller delivers again. If people don't see it, it's their loss.
@@jackhammer0101you're correct. This is no gem. I don't agree with the things The Drinker praises here. Not well acted, not well written, obvious green screen, girl bossing galore. Skip it, especially at today's ticket prices.
The reason Furiosa is bombing is because their advertising campaign was absolutely abysmal. They never released a good trailer. Fury Road was the opposite. Second reason is because nobody cares about a young Furiosa who isn't Charlize. Turns out people want to see Max in a MAD MAX film
To be fair fury road just barely broke even
Yes- i agree. Fury road has perhaps the best trailer of all time, you know from seeing the trailer that it would be amazing. Furiosa trailer didnt sell me, but i knew id still see it as its Mad Max, and it was great. But yea, the advertising didnt help it
Couldn't have said it better
@@calzone3843really??
it's weird that they released trailers with unfinished vfx
just show other parts of the movie
Some time later it will be considered an underated movie.
i loved the movie for me it was amazing and I enjoyed more than fury road to be honest.
The movie was great I think the biggest problem is no one wants to go to a movie theaters. If you look at all 3 movies and they where written from start to finish, they had a story board choice to pick the best of 3 to reboot the series which was 2 or the 1st movie... you get the background of the world in 2nd movie or the 1st and hopefully if the 3rd movie 3rd inline made we will now have a world where max and frouisa have to put together after imortan joe... it makes sense from a story board perspective, kinda like how the Tell the OG starwars
No this movie is dogshit
@@adriandurlej9266 No it's not. It's a great movie and almost certainly a future cult classic.
@adriandurlej926it does suck I just watched and only one scene made my eyes open up and say damn nice. the rest of the movie dragged long asf
Fun fact, the original Immorten Joe was played by the actor who played the gang leader all the way back in the first Mad Max film
Holy crap, you're right. That's awesome
Toe Cutter
Did they change the actor?
@@leonrussell9607yes the og died
'Be careful, he can lick his own eyebrows!'
I think it's all three.
1. Hollywood sucks lately.
2. Cinema prices are waaaaaaaaay to high.
3. Wait a couple weeks and watch it at home.
I do wish all three problems would be solved, though. I really miss "going to the movies".
I think it also has another reason that’s a huge factor as to why things like internet pirates and other things like them are big now; it’s like how Lord Gabe Newell said, “Piracy is a service problem; provide a better service than the pirates and you’ll succeed,” and it’s very similar to what the bald wizard Asmongold said, “People are lazy. If the laziest thing to do is to just wait for it to come to a streaming service, then most people will do that than having to schedule a day off to see the movie, budget the day, watch the movie, return home for bed just to return to work the next day.” I probably butchered Asmongold’s quote, but I strongly agree with you. The only other reason why this movie is so late to release is because Miller was having a legal spat with Warner for proper payments for Fury Road. Thanks to the boring language of Legalese, it took them nearly a decade for things to get back to normality.
There's simply better content available as serialised stream. Even Disney managed to not screw up Shogun, and that's a 10hr 1st season. Just started watching Shardlake, also on Disney, and despite some unnecessary signalling by the inclusion of a multicultural cast there's no Message going on, they just happen to be actors with different skintones.
Of course, the fact both of those are book adaptations and happen to tell a very good story is entirely by chance... 😂
If you miss going to the movies, just go to the movies
@@ethanbrock5453 But it's cost-prohibitive.
I hate going to the theatre these days. 20 bucks for a ticket so I can sit in a smelly crowded theatre with crying babies and annoying movie talkers. No thanks.
Reasons why Furiosa flopped:
1) Ppl aren't going to the movies like they used to and waiting for streaming
2) It's a prequel and Charlize isn't back
3) Ppl want to see Mad Max not Furiosa
4) The only movie ppl are going to see in theater is Deadpool 3
I enjoyed Anya’s performance, but you just can’t replicate the maturity and grit Charlize put into the character. And yeah, if there was going to be an origin, it should have been a lean under two hours production that gets right to the point.
Don't forget the fact that it's a mediocre movie at best.
People not going to theaters is caused by point 3. Theaters are still packed for good movies people are interested in.
And Sonic 3.
I'm going to see The Search For Spock! 😎
Although I loved the movie, I must admit that this franchise has never been too popular. It was a huge risk spending that kind of budget on Furiosa. A sequel to Fury road could have been a smarter move.
Exactly
This movie really feels like an innocent victim of the previous flops...
This is literally commerce at its finest, based on confidence. No one believes Hollywood can produce any good things anymore, so even good movies get shunned now...
Its not just that, its a Mad Max film without the main character, it just follows a side character who while liked is really not important and who has already left the timeline. The fact that Furiosa had such a large role in the Fury Road and almost all the lines is the reason it didn't do very well. If Tom Hardy was the real star of Fury Road it would have done far better than it did. This should have been a Tom Hardy or better Mel Gibson movie and Furiosa should not have been in it. It would have broken 500mil by now had that been the case.
@@alistairbolden6340 Wasn't it the same in Road Warrior though? Max is the sidekick in the story because that's the archetype of the Lone Wanderer; walk into a place, get involved in someone elses story, then leave once everything gets resolved.
Also, Mel Gibson would've probably tanked the box office even further. He was already very controversial by the time Fury Road came out.
@@alistairbolden6340 Shits called Mad Max SAGA: Furiosa, not Mad Max: Furiosa for an obvious. It was supposed to tell the spin off story in Mad Max universe that Miller wrote alongside Fury Road. But hey, you do you with your opinion, I was just saying.
@@FadazMada wow amazing observation. i guess all is forgiven now that THAT’S cleared up, everyone’s opinions are totally nullified
@@n00bfest32 of course, most of criticisms always complain about the fact that Max WASN'T in the movie, which is stupid when you think on the obvious. Hence, my argument nullifies those.
I'm a simple Aussie. I can't understand how any movie with Mad Max in its title doesn't have Mel Gibson as lead while the bloke is still breathing. Its Top Gun without Tom.
ken oath
He’s an out and out Catholic, who says Catholic things and doesn’t bother smoothing out his talk like a politician either. So Hollywood hates him these days.
BS. They don’t even like other Catholics. Racist remarks trumps any claim of religious persecution. I’m an old man who grew up on Mad Max movies and would laugh if anyone suggested RW or Thunderdome were better than FR or this one.
Calling out hollywood elites, like oprah an disney (rightly so) tends not to fair too well for big budget studio work.
Mel as Max again! Take my money!
And as veteran actors go at 68 Mel is a spring chicken!
Seeing a grizzled old max played by Mel Gibson for one last time would’ve been the epitome of the season and a great send off for the character. Love him or hate him, Mel Gibson is one hell of an actor and without him this series wouldn’t exist. So he deserves his final chance at the character. Pure and simple.
I like Mel Gibson, but the whole old man character thing just doesn't do it for me. It just makes me feel old myself because I grew up with seeing him in his prime.
@@Xaito same here. Coming up on forty soon so I know the feeling. But that’s why I like seeing the old man role. Reminds me that nothing over till the coffin drops.
in a world where everyone dies young, dont mess with the old man... there i just wrote a plot that is more interesting than fury road and furiosa combined...
How does that work if this is a prequel?
@@Xaito so many of the all time great films are the “old man” story. Unforgiven, Logan are the two that I think everyone would be familiar with
Dementus' own story is really interesting his rise and fall as a warlord, lossing his initial confrontation with Joe and gaining the upper hand only to be saddled with rule a fief in addition to his hoard, the spiral of his sanity all the way to his eventual greek tragedy like fate.
He is even depicted mythically as "Red Dementus" cape and chariot included.
Yes! I thought it was gonna talk about his rise and Férosa, I love the world building but seeing his rise up power, injury and show how the world became that way. The movie was just To movieish, how did nobody know she was a girl or tried to attack a smaller male, or they not realize she was the missing girl. It jumped around to much and when she cut her arm off, stole bike and popped his tire and nobody saw it, really pissed me off all to show her being caught later
there's nothing interesting about it at all. "whoa I'm gonna attack you" "oh how about you run gastown" "ok". 10 years later "oh no gastown is falling apart and they say I'm to blame" (last one is actual dialogue)... this is the worst movie I've seen in a decade at least
@@beowulf_of_wall_st Can't seem to find that quote myself.
@@14funnybunny1 Inside the Citadel, if you're not one of the very top dogs, you can't randomly attack another member of the pack and go unpunished. She just made herself useful and was treatead fairly well as a result.
White Dementus to Red Dementus to Dark Dementus, falling into delusions of his
This film is an example of "Wrong place and time". Should've came out about 2 years after Fury Road when the hype surrounding that film was still fresher. Sadly, a decade of bad films starring women with writers, producers, directors, and actors all saying "Fuck off, we don't need you" has made the movie going audience smaller. To the general audience, the fact it's a spin-off has them going "nah, we'll pass". We're all tired of prequels, sequels, spin-offs, remakes. We want something fresh and original.
We're just jaded and cynical, esp. after the past decade of the aforementioned "Fuck off, we don't need you" mentality that is plaguing Hollywood.
Yes, calling a movie "mad max" with a female lead, and without a max, is weird in normal times. But in these times it's just a massive red flag.
@@Peter-jl4ki
I mean, let’s keep it very real. She kinda co-opted the last movie too, but this time she has to carry the entire film on her back and they still had the absolute audacity to put a mad max saga in the title.
Timing in life is everything they say and the timing here was so far off it’s not even funny.
It would have been much better written before the film industry takeover by woke
CYNICAL tahts the word i was trying to say yesterday god i hate that..thanks bruv
Yeah this movie really isn't a woke feminist movie at all but less people are going to give it a shot due to all the feminist slop recently.
The reason why this was made was because Miller wrote enough material for a trilogy that would be fury road, a prequel that is actualyl the genuine start of the story he wrote in Furiosa, and then a third film thats a sequel to fury road that miller has called the Wasteland that will follow Tom Hardy's Max again. The reason this was made was because Miller wants to tell his full story
But we learned nothing new about Immortal Joe and others in this movie. It almost feels like left over material from Fury Road. He should have just made Mad Max Wasteland instead
I hope people buy the bluray and it makes enough to justify more movies. OVerall I feel this movie will fly under the radar due to the woke stuff in hollywood causing mistrust. Think of Woke stuff as like clickbait youtube video that doens't have what the title describes in it. People feel like this is clickbait. But if they give it a chance maybe it can still make enough to justify the next movie?
@@CoolGobyFish it added a lot of weight and depth to furiosa in fury road. It adds so much to that scene of her mourning the destruction of the green place in fury road. We learned more about the world of the wasteland and saw places that were only referenced in fury road such as the bullet farm and gas town. We got a better understanding of how all of these places interact with each other and what the relationships between immortan joe and the other warlords actually looks like which we basically got none of in fury road. It also provides context for why furiosa and max are able to pull off what they pull off in fury road because the citadel is still massively depleted from the war with dementus and that’s why the other warlords weren’t happy about immortan joe using so many resources just to chase after these women. We also learn why furiosa is looking for redemption because she Carrying the guilt and shame of her mistakes getting (spoiler alert) her mother killed by dementus. It also explains why she’s okay with working for immortan joe when fury road made it look like immortan joe killed her mother when in reality dementus did. It fleshes out so much if the world and the character of furiosa that it makes an already perfect movie (fury road) even better by adding more weight to the events of that film and we the audience understand more why things in fury road affect characters as strongly as they do.
@@ballcapgamer3974 We literally learn nothing new. Miller never really showed The Green Place. Never showed how Citadel or Gastown operate. Never even showed Furiosa's life in Citadel. So what worldbuilding are you talking about?
Maybe it should have just stayed a book for the hardcore fans. Instead of movie many wanted he pushed his politically correct vanity project.
This is the film that finally made me realize that I just don’t much care for movies anymore. I used to go almost every weekend, sometimes double featuring it, but it’s been months now since I’ve bothered to go the cinema.
I used to get angry when Hollywood told me that I’m not dark enough, gay enough, or female enough to watch their films, but I’m past that now. I just don’t care anymore.
So maybe Furiousa is good, maybe it’s bad, hell maybe it’s just mid, but it doesn’t matter anymore because I just have no interest in watching movies.
So congratulations Hollywood, you got what you wanted, I’m out touching grass.
I'm more apathetic with Hollywood than with movies in general. It's OK that you've moved on, I know lots of people that don't watch films anymore. Hopefully you've found something more meaningful to do with your time.
Have you tried being more gay? Or maybe try wearing women's clothes?
Movies used to be fundamentally inspirational, with the core vibes being that of 'sacred mythos' when it came to the big action/adventure movies especially. But now they are merely propagandistic vehicles for The Message. A certain group dominates Hollywood and that group has a massive social/political agenda for modern western society, which boils down to them shepherding sheepish kiddults. Most movies/TV are deliberate sheepification nowadays. Ironic that this Mad Max movie doesn't have Mad Max, when Mad Max is/was Mel Gibson, and Mel Gibson is one of the very few people in Hollywood who dares to speak out about that group. And they wrecked his career over it.
I stopped back around 2013ish. I saw Prometheus as a huge fan of Scott and...well I just decided there are decades of older movies I could catch up on. Have not had any regret
Are you sure you don't mean that you don't care for MODERN movies anymore? We're sitting on over 100 years of cinema that's already come and gone and all of those older, well-made and entertaining movies you've never seen are available at the touch of a button. Give up on the newer stuff for sure, but check out some classics and rediscover your love for the art form that way.
It's really quite sad, I just saw this movie in an enormous xtreme screen cinema on the weekend and fucking loved it but there were only like 12 people in the showing. As an Australian I'm so proud that we have George Miller and Baz Luhrmann: 2 absolute visionaries who make the movies they want to make, even in the face of everyone else asking "why". Furiosa is going to stand the test of time as a cult gem, and I really enjoyed how weird and unique and different and utterly brutal it was. It was kind of like smashing elements of Dune, Game of Thrones and, yeah, Mad Max, into one film. I felt a bit of George Lucas prequel vibes, in that, Miller was obviously just like, I don't care if it's brutal and strange and audiences might not like it, I want it to be like this and I don't give a fuk. I love giving my money to visionary unique filmmakers like this who take somewhat ballsy decisions, and I'm sad that it bombed in the box office. It's not "Poor Things" level of unique and odd, it's much more accessible than that, but in its own way these modern Mad Max films just have a whole lot of world building and odd characters and unique flavour that no other modern action films have.
Best comment on this section.
Are you sure you are not secretly Kojima?
its really sad indeed.. If it had been a success maybe he could churn out one more movie.. but with a bad reception.. I fear Hollywood wont greenlight another madmax before Miller has taken the ticket.. 😥
i dont think so. people dont actually want "leading women"/"tough girls". it was a fad for a short while, nothing more. no way it will be considered good in the future, when the feminism nonsense died out.
Bruh ive been following the production of this movie, it was actually supposed to be made a decade ago but George Miller got cucked by the studio for years
The lengthy gap between the films is probably explained by this 2022 bit from The Telegraph: "In 2017 Miller’s production company filed a $7 million lawsuit against [Warners] over an unpaid production bonus. Miller wants to make two sequels: a Furiosa spin-off with Theron and another Mad Max film, Mad Max: The Wasteland. Both are in suspended animation as the legal case plays out." - so it looks like the film was "on pause" for at least 5 of those 9 years due to the legal shenanigans.
I would love to see those
Nice info. Sad that it happened, as it really hurt this new movie and probably means we won't see that "Mad Max The Wasteland".
Exactly. Warner sabotaged the entire franchise to weasel out of a few million dollar bonus. It would have been out in 2017 or 2018 if not for that & the Max-centric Wasteland project would’ve been out 2022 or 2023. Just another in a long line of bad WB decisions.
Warners are consistently competing for the title of worst studio in Hollywood. First the stupid DCEU, where the rushed movies to keep release date withing yearly quarters that would earn them extra bonuses, then the Fantastic Beats movies and how they handled the Depp case. Then they were being weasels with Chris Nolan which is why Oppenheimer is a Universal movie. Now this Mad Max thing which I had no idea about.
@@valentinegonsalves7322Never forget the tax write-offs and mutilation of HBO Max content.
I am a huge Mad Max fan and loved Fury Road. Never once did I say to myself..."I would love to see Furiosa's origin story". Never.
Me either.. But it was a pretty good non stop action thrill ride. Glad I went.
i absolutely did want to see that. the world is bigger than max. time to move on
@@jake57nah, Mad Max Rockatonsky all the way 😂
@@jake57 In franchise that use the name Mad Max saga? If that was a joke it was a really good one
Yea, it already explained what Furiosa's back story in Fury Road... Isnt it enough?
Lets move on to see what coming adventure for Max...
Still wrapping my head around Fury Road coming out TEN YEARS AGO! I thought it was 3 or 4 years ago.
Same
I mean technically nine (2015) but yes I’m always amazed when I see a movie and I’m like what?!, this came out when??!!
Yea as a millennial time started running real fast. We getting old!
@@dayoltay
Getting older isn't what makes me sad it's that the world is getting worse and worse. I mean I know some of that just comes with and indifferences between the generations but things really have degraded quite a bit in the last 20 years or so.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Yup, going downhill on all fronts really fast
The film stayed with me after, which was interesting. I now understand why George was writing this as he was making Fury Road. Max’s journey from only being a survivor, to putting himself at risk to help someone else (Furiosa ) not lose themselves in a pointless quest. And this film, Furiosa, about how enduring incredible trauma does not necessarily mean you turn into the traumatic villain. Shakespeare and I really appreciate his ambition. Plus, both are absolute banger, action films.
Plus he breaks the trend of taking spoiled weak people and turning them into fierce warriors through a tragic set of events. Furiosa WAS already a fierce warrior and used what she had to survive that tragic set of events.
People complained about her having the name 'Furiosa' before getting taken into this life. But I love it for this very reason. The abuse she went through didn't make the awesomness that she is. The awesomness that she is helped her survive it and not let it shape who she truly is. It's a powerful lesson. And it gives people back her individual value, safe from whatever trauma-or lack thereof- you go through.
Your trauma doesn't give you anything. What you have was already yours.
Spend ten solid years as an industry mocking the audience you need for a movie like this and watch the trust evaporate.
George Miller is a master, and i would guess is not really an insider of the "industry". why not appreciate the commitment this aging man has for the craft of telling the story.
Not George MIller, he intentionally delayed Fury Road because it didn't feel right to him at that time.
George Miller is not like this
Right, not Miller, but he's still vulnerable to the industry's reputation. If you're Lester Maddux in Pataskala, Ohio, are you willing to risk seeing an action movie with a female lead anymore? Or indeed any movie at all that seventeen people you know haven't already signed off on?
@@lordjimbo2 I think part of being a positive male is being able to be judicious and not prejudice by group think, or just for the sake of being "right" about crappy girl boss movies. This movie should be praised and promotoed to young girls and women, it's another statement of the power women posess, to give life, to nurture, and to fight like a protective mother when needed, and dont forget the ability to NEVER forget or forgive and to exact vengeance as only women can. This movie is perhaps too much of a poision pill of strong feminity for some of the normally on point Drinker review cult. I've yet to hear any good critques of the film on it's own merits.
Judging by the box office, people didn't fall for the "Mad Max saga" in the title
"Mad Max Saga" should've never been included in the title. It just reminds everyone that Mad Max is only it for 3 seconds.
Mad Max ended with Thunderdome.
That's one interpretation.
For my part I just don't like Anya Taylor Joy.
Maybe the box office money is hidden between Anyas eyes
Honestly I think it's more that Mad Max isn't actually that big of a draw. Fury Road was great but barely made a profit.
It’s not *general* apathy… it’s a very specific apathy: too many beloved franchises run into the ground; too many films/shows with bitter, unappealing characters and themes and terrible writing… so now that even though there are finally some good ones… we’ve just had it. We’re done.
Guys are checking out of movies and shows, too... not just society in general.
Maybe they shouldn't have spent so much time, effort, and money, showing us how much they h8 us.
Wholeheartedly agree. Why would anyone bother anymore? You literally have to make another Fury Road to get butts in seats. That’s the standard it takes now. And if you can’t create a miracle of modern filmmaking then no one is coming. We hate you, Hollywood. You’ve ruined everything good. Why would anyone get invested in anything you put out anymore? You’re just going to destroy it with greed, avarice, and a sense of high-minded entitlement.
Fuck off, Hollywood.
@@Nyet-Zdyespoor you
It's a combination of everything.
Streaming, ticket prices, movie theaters just not being what they used to be, (meaning they're kind of run down and a lot of times other audience members are annoying), all the terrible movies that have come out in the past decade or so, all this is led to a distrust and disinterest in Hollywood and movies in general.
"Maybe it's just general apathy towards Hollywood these days?"
Apathy?? My good man, I am NOT 'apathetic' - I absolutely DESPISE them...
Preach, brother!
I bet they're all absolutely gutted about that.
Same, the wrighters, the actors, the producers, the directors, all have treated the common man with contempt. Hollywood deserves nothing but bankruptcy.
@@ph8077 Use your big boy brain and try to think about this. Millions of people not paying for Hollywood movies....leads to? That's right! Their stock goes down in flames and their investors abandon them! It's already happening to major companies like Disney and Netflix. Good job buddy ole pal! Proud of you for working that one out and getting the ole noggin joggin🤣
Precisely, nail on head.
From memory, Miller had always planned for Fury Road to be followed by two films, with the scripts already written by the time production had ended. One of these at least was for Furiosa, and the other a Mad Max film with Tom hardy. The reason for the delay on a sequel was due to legal issues with Warner Brothers, who tried to screw Miller out of bonuses for coming under budget. Post completion, WB made extra demands, wanting the film to be 3D to meet the cinema trend at the time, and apparently made sure the budget blew out to profit themselves. There were other shenanigans as well, with WB claiming breach of contract, claiming Miller was supposed to deliver a PG13 film, and a 100 minute run time.
So the delay isn't Miller's fault, but once again due to studios meddling with visionaries, and thinking they know best, then screwing them over in the process.
He planned Mad Max for 5 films but Mel quit after 3's abysmal return. No scripts were written and this was the days before studio contracts became a standard in the industry. George isn't the smartest man as he's proved to be fallible.
@@gamervet4760
The script of Fury Road was created at the 2000s
@HolaMundoTheMisteriousAG Yeah, meaning it's a relatively new idea. It also originally involved Mel, but he didn't get involved. For reasons. George should've left it alone. Just like Ridley Scott and George Lucas. James isn't involved in Terminator anymore. We can be thankful that he didn't make any flops in the series. You either let it go and laugh at the ineptitude of lesser artists or hold on tight until you become delusional that your terrible ideas are still great. There's no in-between or happy medium anymore.
Makes me sad reading that, because now that we’ve got a bomb in furiosa we’ll probably never see another true mad max film now…
No, Charlize theron didnt want to work with Tom after their horrible experience from shooting Fury Road as I understand.
Far as I recall, nobody was especially enthusiastic about a prequel about Furiosa back when it was sort-of-announced, some 8 years ago. Since then, Hollywood managed to thoroughly poison the well regarding female led action films, and Mad Max as a franchise returned back to its coffin, so I'm hardly surprised it's not doing all that well.
Also, the original film was made on a budget that probably would not even cover a day of catering for this one.
Imagine if they made and released it back in the height of the me-too/girlboss era in 2017-18. It would have been a billion-dollar movie.
Funny how when you know what you're doing, it doesn't require a massive budget. A man, a shotgun, a supercharged V-8. What's not to love there? Easy peasy. But Hollywood today? Let's spend $200M elevating DEI in movies and earn back $2M and get our media friends to tells us how great it is.
Fury Road was a Furiosa Movie with an ultra feminist message. And it cost tons of money.
@@Raskolnikov70I seriously doubt that lol. Fury Road wasn’t exactly a cash printing machine and there wasn’t really anyone begging for Furiosa prequel.
The catering line is so funny 😂😂
I absolutely loved it. The world building alone was worth the price of the the ticket double over in my opinion.
Don't let on that you'd pay double otherwise they'll put the already astronomical prices up!!
I agree... I liked Fury Road - but I thought the world building was really thin, and I wanted to know whats up.. Now I know.. and I feel a rewatch of Fury Road will be all the more poignant now!
Everything looks so clean for a post apocalyptic desert. I live in a suburb with access to car care products and I can’t keep my car that shiny.
To me, this looks totally artificial, unbelievable and difficult to look at.
I mean if they showed people polishing those cars to every last detail and part of it, that would make a lot more sense since the gas trucks in that universe are scarce obviously
I'd say in this universe where vehicles and gasoline are basically a religion they would take very good care of their machines and with all the time on their hands with would modern society distractions they have lots of time to keep them polished up and sparkle.
Just look at the moment with Chris Hemsworth at 00:10. The DUST alone should be constantly caking the vehicles!
@@TundraCrow sorry but you are absolutely wrong just ask people living in the desert like dubai
the dust and sand is brutal it gets everywhere no matter how much you clean
Nerdrotic said it best:
“The girl-boss era of Hollywood [which Fury Road helped create] has done more damage to female characters than any real misogynist could ever do”
Pretty much.
He should know.
@@greggibson33 You mean coz of all his hard work fighting misogynists?
@@greggibson33I don't remember him leading up some kind of misogynistic brigade in Hollywood. Seems Hollywood screwed themselves as usual.
@@greggibson33 He's not a Hollywood producer. He had nothing to do with the state of what's going on. Y'all need a new boogie man.
2024: when "Simple, solid, dependable" is the highest praise you can expect for a movie.
It really isn’t though. We had Dune Part II which really was quite fantastic.
@birdsrcoolxc34 I can only think of 3 characters that are black and it doesn’t matter that they are.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. People have gone from legitimate gripes about DEI and Hollywood to not being able to enjoy actually well made movies because they’re looking for anything that might be construed as part of “the message”.
@birdsrcoolxc34My god dude take the cope pills already
sad but you are very correct. Last good movie I thought was worth the ticket price is The Equalizer 3. that's it. Well i did like The Northman but that all i have thought was worth the buck and that's including annything in the last 8 years.
@@paladinminipedro707I agree, The Northman was actually good and new
No matter how Furiosa is playing chests or slaughtering bad guys , she invariably holds the same boring poker face. This is not acting , it's having an uncommon face and gambling everything on it.
I'd have to say one of the biggest factors is box office wariness. It's not so much the money, but time that people are being more protective of & the fact that they cannot trust the sources they used to for an honest preview of a film. If they're streaming something at home, they can just turn it off if it feels like a waste. In a theater though, you've invested more than just the time of the movie. You've invested getting everyone to the theater & back, which either took your own gas or the cost of an Uber. You've stood in line for tickets & concessions. You've gotten to your theater which in some towns there's only one screen and others have a multiplex so it might take 10mins to get from the concessions to the theater.
People think I'm insane for pointing this out and that I'm nitpicking, but all of that adds up and people want to have assurances that they aren't wasting all that. So now here comes the second arm of the problem; they can't get honesty from mainstream sources anymore. From being called names, told we can touch grass if we don't like, ignored so they can shill for big corporations to get access, and flat out lied to about the actual contents of the IP itself, why waste valuable time, money, and brain cells on an industry that has firmly told us to go fornicate ourselves?
Very well said I live in a rural town I have to drive 45 mins to an hour to go see a movie I rarely go unless I know I'm really gonna like the film
As an ex-projectionist... Well, you nailed that comment completely.
Exactly.
If i spend time and more importantly precious hard earned money on going out to anything, im def going to make sure its worth the effort and money lost.
And id i much rather go to a family movie with my baby and make an experiance out of it. I can stream more adult stuff at home and eat my food and get cheaper drinks from the store.
Spot on take. There is so much crap made today, streaming is the only safe option. We give a movie about 4-5 minutes now to see if it is worth our precious time. Paying big bucks at the theater is too risky.
Streaming is probably eating up some of the revenue too, why go to the movies when companies release it on streaming services a few months later
Hollywood became a snake eating its own tail
To quote Ned Flanders. Modern Hollywood is “…the answer to a question nobody asked”.
"Can't you morons do anything right?!"
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Doodly.
I work with several people in their 20s. None of them had ever heard of Mad Max when I told them I was going to see Furiosa this weekend. There is a serious marketing problem in Hollywood.
Shame as they probly would enjoy it too
Even the people who went to the effort of attending the sneak peek Premiere had essentially no knowledge of Mad Max.
I think that the world's entertainment sources are so fragmented nowadays which makes it more difficult to market to a mass audience. Gone are the days where everybody could only watch a select few TV channels and see a movie trailer.
must be early 20s and im guessing their tastes lie on the either the braindead mainstream woke disney/marvel/netflix/avatar/barbie movie side, or maybe those whom have a film genre named after their 'descent' and have thusly developed the progressive belief that they shouldn't watch a movie or relate to a character if they aren't a color representing themself. Cuz anyone by all rights shouldve at least heard of this movie.
@@LetheanschemeThat's a lot of assumptions - many younger people just aren't into movies in general. They prefer TikTok and videogames. 🤷🏻♂️
I really enjoyed this movie! Felt just because the universe has one guy's name in it doesn't mean the universe can't exist with him being 100% present like the world around him lives whether he happens to be there or not imo
This movie was made because George Miller wanted to make it. It wasn't made by a studio focused only on making as much money as possible. It was held up because WB and George Miller had a dispute over bonus pay, so it took a long time to negotiate a deal for a new movie. And to be honest, there's a chance that positive word of mouth will give this movie a boost, and give it a bit of a late-week surge. People saw 'female-led action spinoff' and rolled their eyes, expecting the worst.
Yeah, Hollywood has trained many people to just give things a pass. Hopefully word of mouth will save a movie that looks pretty good to me.
@@charliedehn3587 Meh, it's a shame that people are so easily led by bro podcasters and Fox News and shit and can't think for themselves when new movies come out anymore. Furiosa's dope, it's made by a director with a great track record, everybody liked the character when Fury Road came out, and it's been well known for years that it was about Furiosa and not Max.
Personally, I think this has less to do with wokeism and it's more like just an industry issue we've been seeing across the board since the pandemic started and trained everyone to just wait for everything to come out on streaming. Every now and then something will come along that's so good it can't be ignored, like Dune Part Two, but ultimately this trend is happening tons of great movies regardless of whether it's female-led or not. You just only notice the female-led ones because it confirms the narrative you've been trained to believe by the media you voraciously consume because you love feeling like a victim, like all of Hollywood's got it out for you when they really don't.
@@woojoow i am entrenched in the film quagmire you refer to
@@woojoow Uh.. No, part of the problem is people dismissing this issue as if """"wokeism"""" is a real issue. It is, people are being hand-fed, propagantist garbage, so when you finally have an actually good movie with a wonderful female lead, no one watches it. Genuine talent and art is being buried because of all the f*cking trash being forced out, and i'm so fu*cking sick of seeing genuinely good female led movies, or anything that would traditionally be seen as "woke" but literally not made with that in mind, solely making good characters and a story, and them being completely overlooked because people are so burnt out and tired of this bullsh*t. I don't get excited at any mainstream media, because I know i'm blatantly being pandered too as an lgbt woman, and it's f*cking demeaning and patronizing.
So, yeah, you kinda get the point. The Fox News and bro podcasters are cancerous sh*t, but """"wokeism"""" is very real, and it's blatantly spitting in the face OF minorities while we just drink it aallll uppp.
@@woojoow Good directors too often get crappy when they get old enough. Clint Eastwood did Unforgiven (masterpiece), but also Gran Torino (crap).George Miller is another. Fury Road...but also this stinker.
Am I the only one missing the expertly shot and mostly practical action scenes of the predecessor? All this new weightless CGI overload didn’t really do it for me in this movie
Right there with ya. I can't even remember the last movie I was actually excited for; they all feel like the same thing with a slightly different coat of paint.
same, the trailer is only cgi shots, that's why i won't see this movie to the theatre. love the practical from fury road
I was shocked at how phoney it looked. Everything looking so fake almost defeats the purpose of these movies
@spacemanspud7073 at first I thought it was a video game trailer.
I watch the scenes and it's practically a Thor Love and Thunder with more of its CGI. It looks fake.
"Mad Mad Minus Mad Max: Minimum Max"
A No-Maxx Saga.
More like "Meh Max".
Mad Min
But, it may be the best mad max lol
.Maxed out!
Anya Taylor Joy is on of the few celebrities that could get me to watch a movie. She’s in so many great films and tv shows
I can confirm. I hardly care what is in the movie theater nowadays. I'm lucky to see one movie a year in theater and it has been this way for almost a decade.
Yep same here. I've never been a huge movie guy but I used to go to the movies once every month or two months. In the past ten years it's about once a year and in that time I only really liked two of the films I saw (Edge of Tomorrow and 1917).
Same. And I used to be a regular theater-goer.
It's got to the point where I don't even know there is a new movie out until Drinker makes a video about it 🤣
many people still go to theaters. i'm praying they have finally seen the light and won't blindly continue to support disney, etc
same. used to enjoy going to see new movies. but most simply suck now.
What the audience really wants is Old Mad Max with Mel Gibson
Meh, nah. Another Tom Hardy adventure is all i really wanted. No hate on Gibby though OG Mad Max is in my top 10 movies of all time.
Where he’s a miserable bum who is rescued by a strong female protagonist!
Which audience wants that? 😭
THAT would put bums on seats !
Tom Hardy
There's a few things I can think of for the box office underperformance: 1. Early talk about it was that some of the CGI was poor, and the access media used the same excuse that they used for The Flash movie- "It was meant to be bad", lol. 2. I bet a lot of people are getting real tired of prequels/sequels/reboots, etc. Prequels in particular are annoying, and something I myself don't care to see. 3. People (both men and women) are super tired of girlbosses. While it sounds like ATJ's Furiosa isn't one, a usual warning sign is a woman taking over for a man in a franchise. But whether or not her being a woman specifically played into it, Hollywood's recent track record has got to have hurt the movie.
It's all out the reasons people have spoken of. For me, I'm just fed up with Hollywood. They can't shut up. I really don't want to hear their non stop trashing of my country, my family, my religion and other aspects that made this country great. I don't care that they don't agree with me or the above views. I just am tired of paying someone to talk trash about me. They are our employees not the other way around. So they can just go away. They never seem to learn the lessons.
CGI backgrounds make me feel claustrophobic, when the feel should be endless open space. Even worse when you are locked in a cinema.
I’m just tired of Anya at this point.
What a load of rubbish. People won't see it because it's a prequel?
People will want to see a good movie
"Do you want to watch Furiosa?"
"Yeah definitely it looks awesome... actually, isn't it a prequel?" Nah.
" People (both men and women) are super tired of girlbosses" no just incels on social media
I think it's actually a bit sad, that the movie flopped. It isn't half bad, it's made for the cinema, the story is ok for Mad Max standards, and the heroine is likeable. There was even a decent male role in the film, and they didn't make him black or gay.
You don’t use commas correctly
The closest was when Dementus made the black guy wear whiteface to be a fake war boy. I'm sure many articles have been written about it being some kind of subtext.
General audiences don't trust Hollywood to entertain them anymore. With rare exceptions, many people are turning away from mainstream entertainment to alternative sources.
You know Hollywood is in trouble when people would rather watch other people's pets on RUclips than go to a movie.
Wait until Deadpool hits cinema
Eh. There have been some really good movies in the last couple years, but they are the exception to the rule.
@@GaryCrant And then? People know that it will be an outlier, cause Reynolds had a lot of say in this afaik. Nobody trusts Disney that DP3 will be the turning point, on the contrary, they have made it clear they won't change their ways, regardless of what Iger says and promises for a year now.
@@DarkSun123456789 companies who want to make money will always change according to their customer base. Even without Disney there will always be another great Hollywood movie
I didn't know how bad I wanted to see 'Old Man Max' until you said it. Damn, that would be awesome. Whether they tie it in or not, would bring great closure to a character and bring some overarching plot point and continuity for the rest of the franchise.
Gibson back in the role would be an actual blockbuster. That would be awesome.
he is too old it would be worse then picard or the indiana jones he is just too old to pull of an action movie like that
the franchise doesn't need continuity, mad max is more like a myth or legend. he just passes through, gets stuck in someone else's problem, helps them out in a badass way, and moves on with his own journey, disappearing into the wasteland. and johnnym is right, mel is waaaaaay too old to get into an action movie like this now, they would have to jump cut everything to death like liam neeson in taken.
@@jonnym4670He's 68. Maybe too old for a leading man role but definitely not too old for old Mad Max. If anything, he's naturally weathered which could add to the role.
The stunts don't always mean he is hanging off the back of a tanker. George Miller is smart enough to write a script that could incorporate his age into the script like James Mangold did for Logan. It could be pretty damn awesome.
@@DoroteoVilla He could do it. Just dope him up with vitamins and testosterone. Then he can hire himself a trainer and go all-in on the John Wick training.
Hollywood told me I wasn't their audience anymore, so I stopped coming.
And if you don't watch anyway, you're a low life bigot.
If the future is female, as a male I can at least let the females have it.
It would seem rude not to.
This is 100% correct for me as well. You hate? Cool, I'll go read a Larry Correia book. I don't NEED to see your movie.
@@zimrielIt would be interesting to see how they handle WW3
Lo ha resumido usted perfectamente.
This movie was flat out great! Anyone who loved Fury Road should see this. Only George Miller can make a movie like this and I shouldn’t have doubted him.
Yes, it really is a terrific movie. A lot of people are missing out on a great movie because they think it's woke ( which it's not ).
Yes, it really is a terrific movie. A lot of people are missing out on a great movie because they think it's woke ( which it's not ).
@@dannyknightblade4592it’s woke
@@kabirh3626 Do you even know what that word means?
I loved fury road. This movie suck. Too much lame cgi.
Just seeing that image of Mel Gibson as an old Max just makes me wonder what if?!
Never say never. They're gonna have to do the right thing sooner or later. Hollywood has to bring home the bacon somehow & what they're doing now isn't cutting it.
Yeah, it's probably AI generated at 5:55, but man it looks good. I would pre buy the ticket years in advance if I could
It’ll be the actual 4th Mad Max to take place after thunder dome. Fury road and it’s miserable sequel will be forgotten!
Fury Road was originally supposed to be WAY different!
@@rkifismo8215 Nah George Miller has already said he doesn't have a story for an older Max
Chris Hemsworth wearing a cape in another movie ......LOL Edna Mode's head is exploding
No Capes!
He said that was sick of capes which is understandable lol!
@@ZyliceLiddell Even though he hasn't actually stated it, it's so obvious he was only doing the marvel films for the paycheck for those last few films at least when he started to say he didn't like how Thor Ragnarok turned out. He's probably embarrassed he stayed in that terrible franchise for so long even if the money was so good.
Also, if I recall correctly, when the War Boys see Dementus coming with his acolytes, one of them asks "is this Valhalla?" haha I bet when they were brainwashed by Inmortan Joe they never expected to see Thor in the Wasteland.
I thoroughly enjoyed Millers latest instalment. Glorious in IMAX and God, that drum beat on the action scenes was hypnotic.
I wish I watched it in Imax. the segment with the rig and the parachutes was fucking great
@@KyzirGordon It is worth it. I watched it twice in IMAX. The action scenes were beautifully put together and I just love how steady Miller keeps the camera still and centred, despite the absolute savagery and mayhem witness on screen.
Its a good fkin movie on its own, having the Mad Max tie-in only confuses people and makes it seem tacky
Mad IMAX
@@juanchocorleoneThis made me chuckle 🤭
This is a damn good movie. The reason it’s not doing well at the theaters has nothing to do with the quality. I waited to see it on streaming in case I needed to turn it off , because it got too “Girl Boss”. It didn’t. There is nothing woke about Furiosa. She never stands toe to toe with a man. She shoots them or runs them over. Which is cool. Is it as good as Fury Road?No, but not many are. We have so few good action movies these days you shouldn’t miss this one.
“Apathy is death. Worse than death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects.”
Me:"welcome to the consequences of all your actions and sins. And you know the funny part?
It's gonna get worse."
A fellow fan of Kreia I see :3
“That's the big danger, and there's eventually going to be an implosion-or a big meltdown. There's going to be an implosion where three or four or maybe even a half-dozen megabudget movies are going to go crashing into the ground, and that's going to change the paradigm,” Steven Spielberg. - 2013
Only six? We're WAY past those numbers, man! Disney alone has had at least twice as many flops, just last year.
Fury Road was so amazing in IMAX, that I watched it three times. I watched Furisoa opening weekend because so much of the movie is cropped when it hits Blu-ray. This movie is definitely an experience in IMAX… the scenes are so massive!
beep boop beep boob beep
Couldn't you say that about any action movie in IMAX (Dark Knight being my IMAX fav)..
> _"The scenes our Massive!"_
Umm bluray is a format. U need to buy the format u have setup for. I buy the ultras for example
2:55 Yes, I was interested in all of that, thanks for asking.
Up next: Father Ted reboot focusing on a Mrs Doyle origin story.
Dances with wolves, starring a Female US Calvary officer trying to save the Sioux.
Go on....go on go on go on go on go on go on go on...
I hear you’re a supporting character now father? How did you get interested in that type of thing?
Hope a young Father Jack (RIP) comes into that too
I hear yer a racist now mrs Doyle...
I really appreciate how they had one shot of Max in the movie, but it's only a foreshadowing shot from behind like the shot of him in the opening of Fury Road. They didn't get Tom Hardy back, but instead they used his body double from Fury Road. It's kind of charming, and a way to give the body double top credit for playing Max in one of the films.
Prequels rarely ever work, because you know which people got plot armor and which haven't...
I mean, they can still be interesting, but you'll never get that sense of suspense and thrill, fearing your favorite character might have a tragic ending, if you already know that character has to be alive in the original...
I think Andor did it quite well by using the fact you already know *his* end, but not the end of any of the other characters in the show, save for Mon Mothma. Besides for the main character, anyone can die at any time, and the stake comes from how such things will impact Cassian's journey to where he is in Rogue One.
Better call saul did it well
Personally, I kind of enjoy that aspect of them, maybe I'm just weird. When there's a character introduced in a prequel, there's a kind of dramatic irony that comes with them. Praetorian Jack in this film is the obvious one, you know he's doomed from the start, but the how and why, that's what keeps me invested.
@kekibannmi6054 _"Someone needs to write a prequel where the "lead" that even has the right name and goes through the whole movie just to get wiped at the last moment to be replaced with a side character the steals their clout..."_ This reminds me of Death Race.
I don't know if Drinker watches every movie in theatres, but watching Furiosa at at the cinema was a refreshingly good experience for me! Some real effort went into keeping the movie engaging. I actually loved the first 45 mins, watching kid furiosa in action was a delight. The directing choices for the character was good throughout. This movie stands out from the hollywood garbage heap atleast.
Apathy is only a part. Going to the theater is becoming an expensive night out. Who wants to take a $45 gamble that a movie isn't going to suck?
I was going to write the same. It’s definitely ticket prices. And the food prices!!
Nobody talks enough about this. I'm looking to take my daughter to go see a movie and it will end up costing like $60 for a 2 hour movie that I'll stream in a few weeks. Meanwhile, steam had a sale where I can buy 2 copies of Enshrouded or whatever, and that will cost the same for 10s of hours entertainment
Wow, I just spent 14 dollars on two tickets a bucket of Popcorn and two sodas and it wasn’t on Tuesday where is a 50% discount
@@norm-bb3bb Must be a pretty good theater then, the only one where I live costs like $20 bucks a piece for tickets and if you want any refreshments you're just screwed. Can buy like 3-4 movies for the price of taking 2 people out to see it with minimal extras, which plays a large role in why I bother going to see at most 1 movie a year if I bother at all.
@@norm-bb3bb Wow, you're lucky ! That's the price of a can of popcorn and two small drinks where I live. The tickets aren't even included.
The best thing about this film was how it wasn't afraid to beat the shit out of their female protagonist lead to strengthen her character and make the audience root for her. She loses constantly and it wasn't until the end she manages to win through grit and determination.
Lucasfilm, take note.
Its still completely ridiculous. Grit and determination doesn't make a 90lb female a badA$$. This is still ridiculous girl bossing at its worst. Its just not quite as nonsensical and stupid as most girl boss movies.
GL was too busy counting money for the last 2 decades. He is out of touch on his own work.
@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj huh? it was good not his best but great especially compared to the rest
There's also no moment where a woman beats multiple men bare handed, which, even with cool fighting styles, the difference in physique make it look wrong.
@@mechanicalsilence1 she's also not perfect in the beginning and treated as a misunderstood perfect person by a society that 'has to learn to just doesn't understand her'. Instead the film brutally demonstrates she's a fuckup and just as likely to be mauled to death in the wasteland as anyone else, so she's forced to learn to strategize to survive.
Unironically, I appreciate your impartiality in this review Drinker. I haven’t seen it in theater and now I wish I had.
For me, it's an intense hatred of Hollywood these days.
Why would that stop yyou from watching a great movie.
Well said. People are just tired of endless remake, woke, superheroes and same old crap. Hollywood needs a huge reset but I think they will keep digging their hole deeper and deeper until they finally figure out. 😂
I think it's just intense dislike of Anya Taylor Joy
@@TheMemoryPolice"great" really?
Hollywood has told me they hate me enough times I've taken them at their word. They get nothing more from me.
Their biggest mistake was spending too much time on Furiosa as a child and not enough on her relationship with Praetorian Jack, who was a standout in the movie. The lack of resolution and the somewhat meandering final confrontation also hurt it. But overall it's a very good movie, albeit only targeted at Fury Road fans.
Yes, spent too much time on her as a child, and like everyone else this movie is like 7 years too late. Also I think more would have seen what she was doing after she took the Citadel and how she would get control over The Bullet Farm and Gastown.
THIS. Praetorian Jack is the most interesting character in the movie. He’s literally the only character Furiosa loved (aside from her mother). I feel like he actually originally had a bigger role in the movie, but his storyline was swept under the rug somewhere during the post-production. The ending just felt off with Furiosa (and the movie) not acknowledging how important Jack was to her.
I read that Jack was supposed to be played by Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, but was replaced by Tom Burke because of scheduling conflicts. I’m pretty convinced that the studio decided to axe his character because he’s now played by a white man, judging on the overly feminist undertone of the ending.
@@sorenmn6799 That sounds odd but I wouldn't put it past them. I didn't even know Tom Burke was in the movie, the trailers did a terrible job not showcasing that aspect of the story. By the way, the only scene were I thought the CGI was terrible was the one with the fire coming from behind her at The Bullet Farm's gate and that shot was everywhere during promotion.
This is an excellent point. He talked about helping her with building her skills. But then did not show any of that. People are suggesting she is not a Mary Sue, but it does not show her being trained by her mother either on how to be great with a sniper rifle. At least George Miller alluded to she was trained by mother, and Jack to become extremely competent.
@@earlybird3668 Now that is something I didn't think all the way through because I know she was trained by them so We can assume she was trained by them, they just skipped over it. But to the rest of the people lets say not the biggest Mad Max fans wouldn't put 2 and 2 together and thought how is she so good at sniping and go straight to the thought of Mary Sue.
I can only answer for myself, and I'm sorry if this sounds bad in any way, which I'm sure it will. Personally, I'm sick of playing a samurai game in Japan with a black samurai, or playing a scoundrel game in Star Wars with a fearless woman, or watching a Mad Max movie without Max. I don't care about Furiosa. I don't care about the expansion of her story. I stayed at home watching a fan film called Hope and Glory. A true Mad Max story. It's wonderful, I recommend it. I'm not misogynistic, racist, sexist or anything like that. I'm just talking with my wallet about supporting pieces of culture that speak to me in some way, not a forced insertion.
I'm deducting 50 ESG points immediately, unless you change your comment.
Spot on.
THAT’S IT NO BANK ACCOUNT FOR YOU
I found the scene where she is stolen from the vault where all the women are kept by Joe. They just sort of gloss over her escape and that there are no repercussions from her disappearing.
Fury road was already a Furiosa movie with Max as a side character, IMHO we needed more Max.
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Mad Max is the main character of the franchise, but he's not really meant to have much development beyond helping people and then leaving (with the exception of the first film). In that essence, it IS an accurate Mad Max film.
What movie came out lately where a female isn't the super bad ass hero? Meh
When i told my dad there was a new Mad Max his only question was who plays Max
Small minded
It was a stuntman. There, now you guys can go watch it
Based dad.
@@LiamArdo89 Small minded? His name is literally tied to the title.
Maybe you shouldnt have called it a Mad Mex film then, when it clearly wasnt trying to be.
Glad they've marketed this movie in Brazil as a stand alone Furiosa movie. Didn't have that drama with the Mad Max Franchise
It was marketed as a standalone Furiosa movie in english speaking countries too. Also, anyone who knows the franchise is aware that only the first one was about max, and that the other ones were about some people in the wastelands, with max somehow getting involved in their story. In Road Warrior, he even looks really frustrated because he gets caught up in that compound's turf fight with the warband.
The only people who are upset that the movie isn't about max are people who know nothing about the franchise.
Yep, they really dropped the ball elsewhere. Putting a “MadMax saga” into the title is just stupid.
@@OWnIshiiTrolling
I mean there is truth to that but I do think because we haven't gotten a movie that really centered around finishing the mad Max story people are kind of annoyed that they would do a prequel instead of finish that story first. Especially 10 years after the last one I mean that is not good timing at all.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu I don't think there is such a thing as "finishing the mad max story." The mad max movies are a bunch of movies in the same setting, with no tangible continuity between movies, apart from Fury Road and Furiosa. They are just individual stories, as told by an unreliable history man. The expectation of a consistent cinematic universe is misplaced.
@@OWnIshiiTrollingpreach. It’s just people that won’t to include “woke and girlboss” in a topic but can’t seem to stomach separating from terrible Hollywood movie trends and just talking about the highs and lows of the movie in general for their most of their lost in the sauce audience. He should have just talked about the movie as a whole instead trying to shoehorn in “the message” any chance he can get without it being present. Happens in all his good reviews. It’s actually a bit annoying. I don’t wanna hear “well Hollywood and its trends.” Excuse because being obsessed with it is no better than woke being obsessed with its ideology. I like critical drinker’s content but he gotta separate from the political commentary when it’s not presented in content he is reviewing if it is by all means talk about it.
Mad max was in this film - When she is walking in the desert alone after having her arm removed there is a Shot of Max and his car eating then turning and looking at furiosa collapse. She is then dragged away by max
Didn't see that, what they showed was, He was next to his Falcon on top of a high cliff, watching the marauders on their bikes way below riding across the desert.
@@kramrollin69 when it cuts to her being dragged she was alone being watched by max suggesting Max Moved her to the vicinity of the Maggot lady where she wakes up in the next scene
@@romainvicta3076 Ok...looks like I will have to watch that movie again to spot it....😁
Hollywood: Has no Mad Max in a Mad Max movie.
Also Hollywood: Why is no one watching this film?
B-bbut he was in it for 10 whole seconds!!!
Max wasn’t the main character in the last movie (and also wasn’t played by the original actor), but it still made bank 🤷♂️
No one watches Mad Max films because of Max
Amen. I'm still pissed they focused on her instead of Max in Fury Road. An Old Max w Gibson would have rocked.
@@_AutoCoder Yeah, that worked out great for the Indiana Jones sequels lol
"It's Furi-OH-sa, not Furio-SAH."
- Hermione Drinker
ohh, stop it ron, ahh
_"I don't give a sheeet."_
-TCD
Not Furio-SAR
2015: how can there be a mad max movie without mel gibson?
2024: how can there be a mad max movie without mad max?
2033: how can there be a mad max movie without the mad max universe?
Mad Max 1965: it's just a random day in 1965 😎
Me in 2033: Oh do we finally get a Waterworld: Dryland sequel?
Overall, it was an enjoyable movie. The young woman playing Furiosa was lovely and capable. Rather than just girl-boss her way, she used guile and intelligence to navigate her way through the perils of the wasteland.
My only question afterwards was, is her name Furiosuh, or Furiosahhh?
The problem is that Hollywood has lost the trust of the audience.
That WW2 movie: who wants to see the orange man bad character shoehorned into WW2.
Fall Guy: who wants to see the White guy get showed up throughout the movie and reduced to caricature.
Furiosa: Girl Boss pushing The Message for 2 hours.
Does that describe any of those movies. I have no idea, it doesnt matter. Audiences dont TRUST Hollywood to not do any of that. Losing the trust of your customers is a slippery slope, slowly at first and then all at once.
which movie is the ww2 one? Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare?
Exactly. And I've sat through watching the current Hollywood regime ruin Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Thor, The Hulk, Indiana Jones and Rick Deckard. And I for one am thankful Mel Gibson isn't in this movie.
They had Mad Max in Fury Road and they did nothing with him there. He was a passive character getting dragged along. Fury Road was a Furiosa movie. And her arc closed out. I do not need a movie to see how she got enslaved and got a her robot arm. Just like I don't need to see how Han Solo got his name and his Mauser pistol. Wtf!
Fall Guy? Really?
How much coddling do you need?
@axemexa1 meh. My weakest example, but I felt the need to echo Drinker's own.
@valentinegonsalves7322 Wait, how did they ruin Deckard? Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic. And Harrison Ford actually kinda looked like he was trying with his performance, a rare thing in the latter stages of his career. What was your complaint?
Drinker seems to have left out what I consider key points. 1) A lawsuit Miller had with WB is why this movie is coming out so much later. 2) In one fell swoop, Miller and his writing team drafted three stories before ever shooting a single frame of Fury Road: The Wasteland (I think this is a prequel, too), Fury Road, and Furiosa. He claims this helped them tell a more cohesive and plausible story in FR because they knew everything that happened leading up to it. At one point there was speculation the two films would be filmed back to back. The question that really irks me, though, is why did we get Furiosa instead of the Wasteland?
A different point that I want to make, too, is it seems Furiosa fell into a similar trap as Thunderdome. Road Warrior and Fury Road both have minimal plots and focus on visuals and epic car chase scenes, and don't really offer much exposition for world building, which is what I presume most think is quintessential Mad Max. Thunderdome and Furiosa, however, try to introduce more world building in and show different sides of the Wasteland that don't exclusively revolve around Gasoline and Car chases.
I think the minimalist exposition with cars, gas, desolation, and violence did an excellent job on world building. A case of less is more. I think that's what captures the imagination in any fantasy world. Just letting the audience's imagination have something to play with.
@@docmcquack7252 Agreed. The world building is present but it's much more visual and implied with dialogue, rather than expositionally detailed. Seeing Gastown and The Bullet Farm didn't really do much for me...everything you need to know about them is learned in Fury Road.
There's also another aspect. Any time someone sees that a preexisting franchise is now using a female lead, everyone assumes it's going to be yet another girl power movie, and decides to pass on it.
Excellent points all around. Hopefully Wasteland will deliver what we're all looking for. Also cut some of this ridiculous CGI
It's fair to discuss the politics of why it's coming out now, but I don't think it's a key point for this vid. And the fact that he wrote these movies back with Fury Road also isn't that important. Tolkien wrote entire books-worth of notes before writing LotR but that's not really relevant except insofar as it helped him make LotR feel more grounded.
And while I would normally never lower myself to this level, I actually agree with the Nostalgia Critic; Thunderdome gets too much guff when it really is a huge part of the Mad Max aesthetic and has more memorable scenes and lines than Road Warrior does.
I absolutely hate these post-apocalypse movies where people, equipment, and scenery look "clean". I love older movies, Escape from NY, Mad Max, etc. because there's real grit to it. Here- a person will be living in a hell hole for years and still look shockingly well groomed and have make-up on. Trucks here look way to clean. Scenery...just weirdly clean. Idk, that's what took me out of it
That's because those movies had almost no budget but yeah I agree with you. I prefer the raw look.
I'm still trying to figure out how she builds a fully functional robotic arm from scraps that works better than an prosthetic that can be made with the best electronics and technology today.
Miller spoke to this point in an interview. He said in a post apocalyptic world people still take pride in creating things and still have art. It more like a collage of preexisting objects.
@@Mereologist None of the contraptions that anyone makes or maintains in this universe has any real business actually working. They're operating on Ork logic to enable the setting.
Like the Vespa gang from BOBF, committing crimes for scarce water resources, yet their bikes are shiny in the desert? 😂
Weird how they made the bad guy a bearded, masculine, vaguely patriarchal looking normal man.
And what else would they call it to signify they it takes place in this universe? Mad Max is the title of the first film, it has been in every film since. There just isn't a better term to signify this universe, and if they don't tell the audience that it's a gun in the Mad Max universe a lot of them won't go see it.
Personsally i think the Road Warrior name is far more appropriate to the franchise overall, but it's too late. And it doesn't have the same recognition.
Old Mad Max!!! Holy shit. I would have actually gone to a movie theater for that (for the first time since The Batman).
I just think it’s cool that the same guy has directed all of the Max films over 45 years. And how the original started out as a pretty small scale film about basically some gangs in an eroded society to now pretty extensive universe. And I think it’s hilarious that we don’t know for sure whether the new movies are reboots or sequels. Also, the same guy (George Miller) directed Happy Feet.
Yes--every time I see George Miller's name pop up in relation to Mad Max I go "Didn't that guy direct Happy Feet???" XD
I'm literally Indigo Montoya in Princess Bride, when every "epic" movie is selling itself as a "Saga".
"I do not think the word means what you think it means."
I hate that word. Everything is a "saga". Twilight, Star Wars, Mad Max. Jeez.
@@jimthar17 Star Wars *was* a saga, especially if you include the prequels
I am Inigo not Indigo. Prepare to die!😁😁
Is it worse than advertising every comic book movie as being part of a "multiverse"?
@@zimriel So that's 6 Star Wars movies, or do you also count Rogue One?
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"Want to know how she lost her arm and replaced it with a metal one? Want to know more about her relationship with Immortan Joe? Want to know how she came to be in command of the war rig?"
Yeah that sounds pretty cool.
"Nah me neither."
Oh.
Joe doesn't even interact with her, she escapes immediately and that''s that. He barely even knows she's there. what a grudge!
That’s what I was thinking lol
That girl boss thing has been beaten down to death at this point
Don't worry: they'll keep bringing out the 'dead horse' and it will keep being pulverized to where even Elmer's doesn't want it for glue anymore.
This was a good movie with no politics whatsoever. Just because it has a woman protagonist doesn't mean it's bad.
She wasn't a girl boss. Did you watch the movie?
Can you give just one reason why Furiousa is supposedly a "girlboss". This is just further evidence that you doofuses just don't like any female protagonist.
@@tdvcyt2534 Nope; They have built a horrible track record with Female leads. They deserve the bed they've made. If you want to push horrible feminism, then you get what you deserve.
Similar to, if Sergio Leone had extended his "Dollars Trilogy" without "The Man With No Name." Instead, the new films focused on the back stories of "Marisol, "Tuco", "or "Angel Eyes."
I wouldn't say those would be bad films either. You would be aware of that one central element that was missing.
That's the closest analogy I can think of at the moment.
I like to pretend "death rides a horse" is the prequel gb&u starring angel eyes. If i stretch it, i can even convince myself "duck you sucker" is a sequel to it, with juan being an older tuco
I'd have watched a 90min film about Tuco vagabonding around the southwest. Gleefully.
A 3 hour long backstop, though? You're right.
backstory*
that's kind of Once Upon a Time in America was. Sergio Leone without any of the fun, humor, charisma or lightheartedness of the dollars trilogy. If you never saw them, you'd never know how much worse Once Upon a Time in America was
@@bobdouglass8010 bro thats my favorite one.
The Drinker is missing one of his usual good observations here. The girl boss is awesome without earning it. She starts as a little girl who is awesome and becomes a woman who is awesome.
Yeah just like most action heros get the fuck over it
GIIIIIIRLE BOSSSSSSSS!
I think it can be inferred that she was taught by her mother who displays girl bossing too. Plenty of male-led movies you could say this about too, all you have to go on is their backstory.
> Emotional Hyper Reaction
Wxmxn aren't warriors. Cry about it. @@redninja3056
Uhhhh, who cares about veggies on the plate, when the steak (Mad Max) isn't there.
Anya really proved that she is here to stay with this film no other actress under 30 has built up a filmography like her already
The film had some great moments but the connection to Mad Max felt forced. It's confusing when films attach themselves to a franchise for no apparent narrative reason. It's a shame that original storytelling isn't always prioritized and marketability tends to win out.
Furiosa was the protagonist of Fury Road. There is a whole bunch of characters that were in Fury Road. There are places that were seen and mentioned in Fury Road. There are stories being told that were mentioned in Fury Road. Booom, there you have it, a connection to Mad Max. What's so forced about it again? What's so forced about a direct prequel for the main character of the previous movie?
Forced? Fury Road literally starts right after the end of Furiosa
I'm getting concerned that movie theaters are soon going to go the way of the dodo.
Yeah, it ain't all sunshine and roses right now, I'll tell you that. I run a local cinema in Sweden. Even the megaplexes are having problems. It's a shame, because with the right movies, cinema is in my opinion the best way to enjoy a movie. Much easier to concentrate on the story than in the couch at home.
@@maxkurtson9892 not really people speak and go piss all the time that’s without the people opening cans of beer I totally hate the regular cinema I only go in the week days or in the VIP section when you have space and not much people to disturb you
What do you expect when you're paying top dollar to watch reheated garbage? Fast food is about to find out too.
Not only are the movies sub par now, the ticket and food prices are unaffordable for the majority of people. They won't be around in ten years at least here in the UK I'd bet my life on it.
Sit-down cinema is as old as motion pictures themselves. With all the alternative ways to view a film, it's a wonder any movie theaters still do business, especially given the razor-thin margin the studios and the distribution corps allow them. Sure, you get the giant screen and auditorium-rocking sound, but you also get: High ticket prices, high refreshment prices, and long, slow lines for both, filthy auditoriums, rude, noisy, obnoxious crowds, the drive there, the parking lot (and all the hazards that implies in an increasingly dangerous world; even Batman's parents found that out), filthy, semi-functional bathrooms... At home, for a modest investment, you can have a pretty decent home entertainment setup, movies you can pause to answer your phone (or a call of nature), relatively affordable foods *you* choose, seating as clean and as comfortable as you make them... When I think of a movie at a theater, I also think of buggy whips. =9[.]9=
Making a Mad Max movie without Mad Max is like making a Sherlock Holmes movie without Sherlock Holmes. Great video drinker. 🎉
The only way that could work would be if someone did a faithful Hound of the Baskervilles movie, and even then it would require the writers to not abuse Watson.
Or Scooby Doo without Scooby Doo.
Are we reading the same titles? The movie is titled as Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga. Also Mad Max barely had any dialogue in Fury Road and the story was about Furiosa.
Enola Holmes 😂
Yup, that's why it's called Furiosa. Stop reaching for straws and hate on actual bad movies
This is a very good Mad Max world telling story.
Chris Hemsworth is one good bad guy. And Furiosa's story is told very well.
And there is a sort of mad max replacement in the story and he gave me the mad max vibes.
I say go see it. It's quite a gem and worth every penny of your money.
Still want that mad max movie with Mel Gibson
Me too.
Why? Bringing back old actors is an awful idea, see what happened with star wars or indiana jones.
Let old people retire in peace lol
@@mirror8519 The problem wasn't the "old actors." It was the crappy people writing and directing.
Yup, Mel is true Max
seems like such an obvious idea, but hollyweird knows gibson knows the truth about pedos etc.