Furiosa: A Non-Mad Max Saga
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- Опубликовано: 26 май 2024
- Furiosa is a really decent post-apocalyptic action movie, with Anya Taylor-Joy replacing Charlize Theron in the title role. The only problem is that its trying to be a Mad Max movie without Mad Max, and it seems audiences aren't loving it. Join me as I review Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga.
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Doesn't anyone remember the last Mad Max movie was basically a Furiosa movie anyway...
It was and it wasn't. They were craftier about the messaging back then.
Exactly
Don't tell em. Some of these guys need a narrative to push
The road warrior wasn't really about Max either. He just helped that group out.
Your desperation is showing, haha.
@maskedman5657
I'll be honest, as refreshingly simple and fun as this movie is, a spinoff about Furiosa should have come out a DECADE ago. This is the definition of striking while the iron is ICE COLD.
Man.. I was waiting to see Hardy again for years so I am still dissapointed...
There isn't even an iron to strike anymore. The forge was moved ages ago.
At least this will be a neat movie for people who haven't seen the fury road yet. So they can watch this one before that. I guess.
That was the original plan to film these back ti back but it proved to difficult then george miller planned to make an animated film but no animation company could do it. Then it was planned to come out in 2019 or 2020 but then covid happened.
Too many shitty girl boss movies since Fury Road, and people don't fall in that bait and switch trick anymore.
Some time later it will be considered an underated movie.
i loved the movie for me it was amazing and I enjoyed more than fury road to be honest.
The movie was great I think the biggest problem is no one wants to go to a movie theaters. If you look at all 3 movies and they where written from start to finish, they had a story board choice to pick the best of 3 to reboot the series which was 2 or the 1st movie... you get the background of the world in 2nd movie or the 1st and hopefully if the 3rd movie 3rd inline made we will now have a world where max and frouisa have to put together after imortan joe... it makes sense from a story board perspective, kinda like how the Tell the OG starwars
No this movie is dogshit
@@adriandurlej9266 No it's not. It's a great movie and almost certainly a future cult classic.
@adriandurlej926it does suck I just watched and only one scene made my eyes open up and say damn nice. the rest of the movie dragged long asf
This movie really feels like an innocent victim of the previous flops...
This is literally commerce at its finest, based on confidence. No one believes Hollywood can produce any good things anymore, so even good movies get shunned now...
Its not just that, its a Mad Max film without the main character, it just follows a side character who while liked is really not important and who has already left the timeline. The fact that Furiosa had such a large role in the Fury Road and almost all the lines is the reason it didn't do very well. If Tom Hardy was the real star of Fury Road it would have done far better than it did. This should have been a Tom Hardy or better Mel Gibson movie and Furiosa should not have been in it. It would have broken 500mil by now had that been the case.
@@alistairbolden6340 Wasn't it the same in Road Warrior though? Max is the sidekick in the story because that's the archetype of the Lone Wanderer; walk into a place, get involved in someone elses story, then leave once everything gets resolved.
Also, Mel Gibson would've probably tanked the box office even further. He was already very controversial by the time Fury Road came out.
@@alistairbolden6340 Shits called Mad Max SAGA: Furiosa, not Mad Max: Furiosa for an obvious. It was supposed to tell the spin off story in Mad Max universe that Miller wrote alongside Fury Road. But hey, you do you with your opinion, I was just saying.
@@FadazMada wow amazing observation. i guess all is forgiven now that THAT’S cleared up, everyone’s opinions are totally nullified
@@n00bfest32 of course, most of criticisms always complain about the fact that Max WASN'T in the movie, which is stupid when you think on the obvious. Hence, my argument nullifies those.
I think the biggest mistake this movie made was coming out almost a decade after Fury Road's hype had all but dried up. Imagine how much more buzz this film would have gotten if it was released in 2017 or even 2019.
That would be impossible to make another movie so quickly and keep the same quality, and even if it did, it would be garbage. Who would want that?
@Jdn__0001 that doesn't make sense. You just said it wouldn't be the same quality, and, even if it did, it would be garbage. Unless you're referring to the story itself, that's a contradiction.
@@Jdn__0001 Negative. This movie had been shelved for years because Miller was suing WB.
He said that in the video
Yeah I agree.
I never once considered why Furiosa had a mechanical arm in Fury Road. What's to wonder about? Look at the world she inhabits. You're lucky to be alive!
I mean the previous movie had a character that was literally a guy standing on top of another guy, i didnt bat an eye that furiosa had a mechanical arm
wanna bet that in 3rd prequel we'll learn the metal arm was made by the man that hit the nukes, who also was gran-gran...-gran father of the either main chick or main bad white male and it all has to neatly be connected. Also remember that razor that was used to shave her head? It will also have a backstory, because why the f not.
Agreed. With all the insanely awesome action scenes, he whines about the mechanical arm? Wtf. Sounds a like a grandma that always finds something to complain about. Brutal.
I didn't even remember her name in the first movie.
To be fair, her getting a mechanical arm in Furiosa wasn't done as a cheap reference to Fury Road. It was integrated into the story quite well, and shows how Dementus didn't just take her home and her mentor, but also physically impacted her. It's also very symbolic of him taking away her agency throughout the entire movie. Her losing her forearm while watching her mentor dying, and her having to stumble back to the citadel also shows how broken she is, both physically and mentally, because of Dementus.
If Fury Road didn't exist, her losing her arm and building a new one would still be meaningful, and it would still be symbolic of her overcoming her agency being taken away by Dementus, and ultimately taking revenge. The arm not being a big deal in Fury Road makes it even better, because it means something in relation to Dementus, not in relation to Immortan Joe. The mechanical forearms only means something in the movie where it is expanded upon.
I think that it was a very good way of showing the backstory of a character, in a way that respects both the audience and the source material. George Miller put a lot of people to shame by making a good action movie with a female protagonist, that was also a prequel. This movie does what many franchises failed to do.
Dementus was such a fun character.
Reminded me of some of Alan Rickman's iconic villains.
And deserved a better ending acene, than the woke Hollywood ending.
@@anthonylynch4737Bruh what???
@@anthonylynch4737 Yup they made him look like a coward and weak horrible ending. 100lb girl took him out and was beating on him strong woman activated made my stomach turn the way it ended. The rest of the movie was good and believable but the way they ended dementus did not make this movie epic.
@@jamie30701 Disgraceful ruined it.Hemswoth deserved better with a great performance,..Should have ended like Mad Max 1 when she could have said as a homage "cut through your arm to escape the petrol about to.imfite, after chaining him to the vehicle about to explode..
Dementus' own story is really interesting his rise and fall as a warlord, lossing his initial confrontation with Joe and gaining the upper hand only to be saddled with rule a fief in addition to his hoard, the spiral of his sanity all the way to his eventual greek tragedy like fate.
He is even depicted mythically as "Red Dementus" cape and chariot included.
Given the stream of subpar "girl-boss" movies polluting the pool, it's no surprise people aren't willing to wade in the muck to find out if Furiousa is a gem.
I don't need to watch it to know it's not a Gem..
It's a shame, as Furiosa is a fantastic film! Definitely recommend seeing it on the big screen - it's a fun, epic ride for sure. Lots of creative action set pieces like in Fury Road. And a very fun chaotic villain role for Chris Hemsworth. I think you have to approach the films with different mindsets though. Fury Road is a high-octane, simple and straightforward action masterpiece. This film is more of an epic odyssey with slower pacing but more world building.
@@jackhammer0101it's amazing actually, watched in 4d, was very immersive
It's an awesome gem. Miller delivers again. If people don't see it, it's their loss.
@@jackhammer0101you're correct. This is no gem. I don't agree with the things The Drinker praises here. Not well acted, not well written, obvious green screen, girl bossing galore. Skip it, especially at today's ticket prices.
Time flies. In my mind I thought Fury Road came out only like 4 years ago.
For me lockdown years have just been erased from memory so 2015 seems like 5-ish yrs ago
I know! When people said Fury Road came out almost a decade ago, I thought “no way” looked it up.
😳 Yeah pretty much.
@@mrmaori5769 I know right? I recently bought a gaming laptop and started playing games i missed for many years and was like " Modern Warfare came in 2019? Witcher 3 came in 2015? How? When?
Exact same reaction.
I feel this 100% the last 4 years have went by in the blink of an eye.
It's a combination of everything.
Streaming, ticket prices, movie theaters just not being what they used to be, (meaning they're kind of run down and a lot of times other audience members are annoying), all the terrible movies that have come out in the past decade or so, all this is led to a distrust and disinterest in Hollywood and movies in general.
The film stayed with me after, which was interesting. I now understand why George was writing this as he was making Fury Road. Max’s journey from only being a survivor, to putting himself at risk to help someone else (Furiosa ) not lose themselves in a pointless quest. And this film, Furiosa, about how enduring incredible trauma does not necessarily mean you turn into the traumatic villain. Shakespeare and I really appreciate his ambition. Plus, both are absolute banger, action films.
The reason Furiosa is bombing is because their advertising campaign was absolutely abysmal. They never released a good trailer. Fury Road was the opposite. Second reason is because nobody cares about a young Furiosa who isn't Charlize. Turns out people want to see Max in a MAD MAX film
To be fair fury road just barely broke even
Yes- i agree. Fury road has perhaps the best trailer of all time, you know from seeing the trailer that it would be amazing. Furiosa trailer didnt sell me, but i knew id still see it as its Mad Max, and it was great. But yea, the advertising didnt help it
Couldn't have said it better
@@calzone3843really??
it's weird that they released trailers with unfinished vfx
just show other parts of the movie
It's 100% the apathy towards Hollywood. They lost our trust so much that we aren't even willing to go see the good movies. The era of Hollywood movies is over.
not only movies but entertainment in general, gaming is also facing severe backlash in these days
I think this has a lot to do with it, as an audience we are so prepared for a film to be terrible, that we assume they all are until proven otherwise, but often at that point it is too late.
Capitalism has finally destroyed hollywood, let's see what's next
@@CallMeMrXvery true
Also, lets just be real, post pandemic, most people across the globe are economically screwed. Most people just don't have the time and the money. In Asia, watching a movie in the theatre usually meant a day out. You get friends and family, go watch a movie and then eat a meal together. Not anymore.
Also, you know for a fact its gonna be on streaming in a month.
It's really quite sad, I just saw this movie in an enormous xtreme screen cinema on the weekend and fucking loved it but there were only like 12 people in the showing. As an Australian I'm so proud that we have George Miller and Baz Luhrmann: 2 absolute visionaries who make the movies they want to make, even in the face of everyone else asking "why". Furiosa is going to stand the test of time as a cult gem, and I really enjoyed how weird and unique and different and utterly brutal it was. It was kind of like smashing elements of Dune, Game of Thrones and, yeah, Mad Max, into one film. I felt a bit of George Lucas prequel vibes, in that, Miller was obviously just like, I don't care if it's brutal and strange and audiences might not like it, I want it to be like this and I don't give a fuk. I love giving my money to visionary unique filmmakers like this who take somewhat ballsy decisions, and I'm sad that it bombed in the box office. It's not "Poor Things" level of unique and odd, it's much more accessible than that, but in its own way these modern Mad Max films just have a whole lot of world building and odd characters and unique flavour that no other modern action films have.
Best comment on this section.
Are you sure you are not secretly Kojima?
its really sad indeed.. If it had been a success maybe he could churn out one more movie.. but with a bad reception.. I fear Hollywood wont greenlight another madmax before Miller has taken the ticket.. 😥
i dont think so. people dont actually want "leading women"/"tough girls". it was a fad for a short while, nothing more. no way it will be considered good in the future, when the feminism nonsense died out.
Bruh ive been following the production of this movie, it was actually supposed to be made a decade ago but George Miller got cucked by the studio for years
This movie was flat out great! Anyone who loved Fury Road should see this. Only George Miller can make a movie like this and I shouldn’t have doubted him.
Yes, it really is a terrific movie. A lot of people are missing out on a great movie because they think it's woke ( which it's not ).
Yes, it really is a terrific movie. A lot of people are missing out on a great movie because they think it's woke ( which it's not ).
@@dannyknightblade4592it’s woke
@@kabirh3626 Do you even know what that word means?
Fun fact, the original Immorten Joe was played by the actor who played the gang leader all the way back in the first Mad Max film
Holy crap, you're right. That's awesome
Toe Cutter
Did they change the actor?
@@leonrussell9607yes the og died
'Be careful, he can lick his own eyebrows!'
This is the film that finally made me realize that I just don’t much care for movies anymore. I used to go almost every weekend, sometimes double featuring it, but it’s been months now since I’ve bothered to go the cinema.
I used to get angry when Hollywood told me that I’m not dark enough, gay enough, or female enough to watch their films, but I’m past that now. I just don’t care anymore.
So maybe Furiousa is good, maybe it’s bad, hell maybe it’s just mid, but it doesn’t matter anymore because I just have no interest in watching movies.
So congratulations Hollywood, you got what you wanted, I’m out touching grass.
I'm more apathetic with Hollywood than with movies in general. It's OK that you've moved on, I know lots of people that don't watch films anymore. Hopefully you've found something more meaningful to do with your time.
Have you tried being more gay? Or maybe try wearing women's clothes?
Movies used to be fundamentally inspirational, with the core vibes being that of 'sacred mythos' when it came to the big action/adventure movies especially. But now they are merely propagandistic vehicles for The Message. A certain group dominates Hollywood and that group has a massive social/political agenda for modern western society, which boils down to them shepherding sheepish kiddults. Most movies/TV are deliberate sheepification nowadays. Ironic that this Mad Max movie doesn't have Mad Max, when Mad Max is/was Mel Gibson, and Mel Gibson is one of the very few people in Hollywood who dares to speak out about that group. And they wrecked his career over it.
I stopped back around 2013ish. I saw Prometheus as a huge fan of Scott and...well I just decided there are decades of older movies I could catch up on. Have not had any regret
Are you sure you don't mean that you don't care for MODERN movies anymore? We're sitting on over 100 years of cinema that's already come and gone and all of those older, well-made and entertaining movies you've never seen are available at the touch of a button. Give up on the newer stuff for sure, but check out some classics and rediscover your love for the art form that way.
Max not being in this is one of the few things that has nothing to do with it not smashing the box office. May be Milller’s best work yet.
What a great movie. Had a ton of fun watching it.
Reasons why Furiosa flopped:
1) Ppl aren't going to the movies like they used to and waiting for streaming
2) It's a prequel and Charlize isn't back
3) Ppl want to see Mad Max not Furiosa
4) The only movie ppl are going to see in theater is Deadpool 3
I enjoyed Anya’s performance, but you just can’t replicate the maturity and grit Charlize put into the character. And yeah, if there was going to be an origin, it should have been a lean under two hours production that gets right to the point.
Don't forget the fact that it's a mediocre movie at best.
People not going to theaters is caused by point 3. Theaters are still packed for good movies people are interested in.
And Sonic 3.
I'm going to see The Search For Spock! 😎
No one seems to remember that Fury Road was not a box office hit when it came out. Yeah, everyone who saw it loved it, but not many people actually saw it.
i saw it and didn't loved it.
Everyone remembers it actually had Mad Max in a Mad Max movie though. This is not the same.
I still havent seen it.
And that’s relevant how?
The Critical Drinker did acknowledge Fury Road was not profitable.
"Why does this movie exist?"
"No one asked for this."
"Fury Road is better."
"We should have got a movie with Max in it."
All the above is simply hot air. The film is brilliant all on its own merits. Chris Hemsworth will receive the Best Supporting Actor nom, mark my words.
I really enjoyed this movie! Felt just because the universe has one guy's name in it doesn't mean the universe can't exist with him being 100% present like the world around him lives whether he happens to be there or not imo
Nerdrotic said it best:
“The girl-boss era of Hollywood [which Fury Road helped create] has done more damage to female characters than any real misogynist could ever do”
Pretty much.
He should know.
@@greggibson33 You mean coz of all his hard work fighting misogynists?
@@greggibson33I don't remember him leading up some kind of misogynistic brigade in Hollywood. Seems Hollywood screwed themselves as usual.
@@greggibson33 He's not a Hollywood producer. He had nothing to do with the state of what's going on. Y'all need a new boogie man.
Judging by the box office, people didn't fall for the "Mad Max saga" in the title
"Mad Max Saga" should've never been included in the title. It just reminds everyone that Mad Max is only it for 3 seconds.
Mad Max ended with Thunderdome.
That's one interpretation.
For my part I just don't like Anya Taylor Joy.
Maybe the box office money is hidden between Anyas eyes
Honestly I think it's more that Mad Max isn't actually that big of a draw. Fury Road was great but barely made a profit.
That picture of Mel would have been the Max the world needed.
Everyone agrees, unfortunately, Mel Gibson made a movie that the people who really control the entertainment industry didn't appreciate.
@@jimeagle1155he also spouted a bunch of racial threats to a cop when he was caught in a DUI
Although I loved the movie, I must admit that this franchise has never been too popular. It was a huge risk spending that kind of budget on Furiosa. A sequel to Fury road could have been a smarter move.
I am a huge Mad Max fan and loved Fury Road. Never once did I say to myself..."I would love to see Furiosa's origin story". Never.
Me either.. But it was a pretty good non stop action thrill ride. Glad I went.
i absolutely did want to see that. the world is bigger than max. time to move on
@@jake57nah, Mad Max Rockatonsky all the way 😂
@@jake57 In franchise that use the name Mad Max saga? If that was a joke it was a really good one
Yea, it already explained what Furiosa's back story in Fury Road... Isnt it enough?
Lets move on to see what coming adventure for Max...
Seeing a grizzled old max played by Mel Gibson for one last time would’ve been the epitome of the season and a great send off for the character. Love him or hate him, Mel Gibson is one hell of an actor and without him this series wouldn’t exist. So he deserves his final chance at the character. Pure and simple.
I like Mel Gibson, but the whole old man character thing just doesn't do it for me. It just makes me feel old myself because I grew up with seeing him in his prime.
@@Xaito same here. Coming up on forty soon so I know the feeling. But that’s why I like seeing the old man role. Reminds me that nothing over till the coffin drops.
in a world where everyone dies young, dont mess with the old man... there i just wrote a plot that is more interesting than fury road and furiosa combined...
How does that work if this is a prequel?
@@Xaito so many of the all time great films are the “old man” story. Unforgiven, Logan are the two that I think everyone would be familiar with
I saw it yesterday and it's still better than 95% of the crap that's come out in the last few years. I had fun. 7/10
Not the glowing recommendation you think it is.
@@Shiirowdid you see the numbers at the end of their comment?
They just said it was an above average movie, not giving it a glowing recommendation
still don't understand how Hemsworth's nose changed so drastically halfway through the movie.
Spend ten solid years as an industry mocking the audience you need for a movie like this and watch the trust evaporate.
George Miller is a master, and i would guess is not really an insider of the "industry". why not appreciate the commitment this aging man has for the craft of telling the story.
Not George MIller, he intentionally delayed Fury Road because it didn't feel right to him at that time.
George Miller is not like this
Right, not Miller, but he's still vulnerable to the industry's reputation. If you're Lester Maddux in Pataskala, Ohio, are you willing to risk seeing an action movie with a female lead anymore? Or indeed any movie at all that seventeen people you know haven't already signed off on?
@@lordjimbo2 I think part of being a positive male is being able to be judicious and not prejudice by group think, or just for the sake of being "right" about crappy girl boss movies. This movie should be praised and promotoed to young girls and women, it's another statement of the power women posess, to give life, to nurture, and to fight like a protective mother when needed, and dont forget the ability to NEVER forget or forgive and to exact vengeance as only women can. This movie is perhaps too much of a poision pill of strong feminity for some of the normally on point Drinker review cult. I've yet to hear any good critques of the film on it's own merits.
It’s not *general* apathy… it’s a very specific apathy: too many beloved franchises run into the ground; too many films/shows with bitter, unappealing characters and themes and terrible writing… so now that even though there are finally some good ones… we’ve just had it. We’re done.
Guys are checking out of movies and shows, too... not just society in general.
Maybe they shouldn't have spent so much time, effort, and money, showing us how much they h8 us.
Wholeheartedly agree. Why would anyone bother anymore? You literally have to make another Fury Road to get butts in seats. That’s the standard it takes now. And if you can’t create a miracle of modern filmmaking then no one is coming. We hate you, Hollywood. You’ve ruined everything good. Why would anyone get invested in anything you put out anymore? You’re just going to destroy it with greed, avarice, and a sense of high-minded entitlement.
Fuck off, Hollywood.
I thought it was a brilliant movie, hope this isn't the end of the mad max movies.
The title “Mad Max” is pretty obvious because it’s in the world of Mad Max. It’s still the Mad Max franchise, just like Star Wars or Planet of the Apes
I'm a simple Aussie. I can't understand how any movie with Mad Max in its title doesn't have Mel Gibson as lead while the bloke is still breathing. Its Top Gun without Tom.
ken oath
He’s an out and out Catholic, who says Catholic things and doesn’t bother smoothing out his talk like a politician either. So Hollywood hates him these days.
BS. They don’t even like other Catholics. Racist remarks trumps any claim of religious persecution. I’m an old man who grew up on Mad Max movies and would laugh if anyone suggested RW or Thunderdome were better than FR or this one.
Calling out hollywood elites, like oprah an disney (rightly so) tends not to fair too well for big budget studio work.
Mel as Max again! Take my money!
And as veteran actors go at 68 Mel is a spring chicken!
To quote Ned Flanders. Modern Hollywood is “…the answer to a question nobody asked”.
"Can't you morons do anything right?!"
Diddley
Diddley
Diddley
Doodly.
This is a very good Mad Max world telling story.
Chris Hemsworth is one good bad guy. And Furiosa's story is told very well.
And there is a sort of mad max replacement in the story and he gave me the mad max vibes.
I say go see it. It's quite a gem and worth every penny of your money.
Quite good movie. Nothing sophisticated about the story but it's well executed as just an action movie.
I think it's all three.
1. Hollywood sucks lately.
2. Cinema prices are waaaaaaaaay to high.
3. Wait a couple weeks and watch it at home.
I do wish all three problems would be solved, though. I really miss "going to the movies".
I think it also has another reason that’s a huge factor as to why things like internet pirates and other things like them are big now; it’s like how Lord Gabe Newell said, “Piracy is a service problem; provide a better service than the pirates and you’ll succeed,” and it’s very similar to what the bald wizard Asmongold said, “People are lazy. If the laziest thing to do is to just wait for it to come to a streaming service, then most people will do that than having to schedule a day off to see the movie, budget the day, watch the movie, return home for bed just to return to work the next day.” I probably butchered Asmongold’s quote, but I strongly agree with you. The only other reason why this movie is so late to release is because Miller was having a legal spat with Warner for proper payments for Fury Road. Thanks to the boring language of Legalese, it took them nearly a decade for things to get back to normality.
There's simply better content available as serialised stream. Even Disney managed to not screw up Shogun, and that's a 10hr 1st season. Just started watching Shardlake, also on Disney, and despite some unnecessary signalling by the inclusion of a multicultural cast there's no Message going on, they just happen to be actors with different skintones.
Of course, the fact both of those are book adaptations and happen to tell a very good story is entirely by chance... 😂
If you miss going to the movies, just go to the movies
@@ethanbrock5453 But it's cost-prohibitive.
I hate going to the theatre these days. 20 bucks for a ticket so I can sit in a smelly crowded theatre with crying babies and annoying movie talkers. No thanks.
From memory, Miller had always planned for Fury Road to be followed by two films, with the scripts already written by the time production had ended. One of these at least was for Furiosa, and the other a Mad Max film with Tom hardy. The reason for the delay on a sequel was due to legal issues with Warner Brothers, who tried to screw Miller out of bonuses for coming under budget. Post completion, WB made extra demands, wanting the film to be 3D to meet the cinema trend at the time, and apparently made sure the budget blew out to profit themselves. There were other shenanigans as well, with WB claiming breach of contract, claiming Miller was supposed to deliver a PG13 film, and a 100 minute run time.
So the delay isn't Miller's fault, but once again due to studios meddling with visionaries, and thinking they know best, then screwing them over in the process.
He planned Mad Max for 5 films but Mel quit after 3's abysmal return. No scripts were written and this was the days before studio contracts became a standard in the industry. George isn't the smartest man as he's proved to be fallible.
@@gamervet4760
The script of Fury Road was created at the 2000s
@HolaMundoTheMisteriousAG Yeah, meaning it's a relatively new idea. It also originally involved Mel, but he didn't get involved. For reasons. George should've left it alone. Just like Ridley Scott and George Lucas. James isn't involved in Terminator anymore. We can be thankful that he didn't make any flops in the series. You either let it go and laugh at the ineptitude of lesser artists or hold on tight until you become delusional that your terrible ideas are still great. There's no in-between or happy medium anymore.
Makes me sad reading that, because now that we’ve got a bomb in furiosa we’ll probably never see another true mad max film now…
No, Charlize theron didnt want to work with Tom after their horrible experience from shooting Fury Road as I understand.
I respect you at least watched some of your contemporaries were shitting on the movie and calling it a “girl boss” movie without even watching it which was stupid.
2:44
"Want to know how she lost her arm and replaced it with a metal one? Want to know more about her relationship with Immortan Joe? Want to know how she came to be in command of the war rig?"
Yeah that sounds pretty cool.
"Nah me neither."
Oh.
The reason why this was made was because Miller wrote enough material for a trilogy that would be fury road, a prequel that is actualyl the genuine start of the story he wrote in Furiosa, and then a third film thats a sequel to fury road that miller has called the Wasteland that will follow Tom Hardy's Max again. The reason this was made was because Miller wants to tell his full story
But we learned nothing new about Immortal Joe and others in this movie. It almost feels like left over material from Fury Road. He should have just made Mad Max Wasteland instead
I hope people buy the bluray and it makes enough to justify more movies. OVerall I feel this movie will fly under the radar due to the woke stuff in hollywood causing mistrust. Think of Woke stuff as like clickbait youtube video that doens't have what the title describes in it. People feel like this is clickbait. But if they give it a chance maybe it can still make enough to justify the next movie?
@@CoolGobyFish it added a lot of weight and depth to furiosa in fury road. It adds so much to that scene of her mourning the destruction of the green place in fury road. We learned more about the world of the wasteland and saw places that were only referenced in fury road such as the bullet farm and gas town. We got a better understanding of how all of these places interact with each other and what the relationships between immortan joe and the other warlords actually looks like which we basically got none of in fury road. It also provides context for why furiosa and max are able to pull off what they pull off in fury road because the citadel is still massively depleted from the war with dementus and that’s why the other warlords weren’t happy about immortan joe using so many resources just to chase after these women. We also learn why furiosa is looking for redemption because she Carrying the guilt and shame of her mistakes getting (spoiler alert) her mother killed by dementus. It also explains why she’s okay with working for immortan joe when fury road made it look like immortan joe killed her mother when in reality dementus did. It fleshes out so much if the world and the character of furiosa that it makes an already perfect movie (fury road) even better by adding more weight to the events of that film and we the audience understand more why things in fury road affect characters as strongly as they do.
@@ballcapgamer3974 We literally learn nothing new. Miller never really showed The Green Place. Never showed how Citadel or Gastown operate. Never even showed Furiosa's life in Citadel. So what worldbuilding are you talking about?
Maybe it should have just stayed a book for the hardcore fans. Instead of movie many wanted he pushed his politically correct vanity project.
This film is an example of "Wrong place and time". Should've came out about 2 years after Fury Road when the hype surrounding that film was still fresher. Sadly, a decade of bad films starring women with writers, producers, directors, and actors all saying "Fuck off, we don't need you" has made the movie going audience smaller. To the general audience, the fact it's a spin-off has them going "nah, we'll pass". We're all tired of prequels, sequels, spin-offs, remakes. We want something fresh and original.
We're just jaded and cynical, esp. after the past decade of the aforementioned "Fuck off, we don't need you" mentality that is plaguing Hollywood.
Yes, calling a movie "mad max" with a female lead, and without a max, is weird in normal times. But in these times it's just a massive red flag.
@@Peter-jl4ki
I mean, let’s keep it very real. She kinda co-opted the last movie too, but this time she has to carry the entire film on her back and they still had the absolute audacity to put a mad max saga in the title.
Timing in life is everything they say and the timing here was so far off it’s not even funny.
It would have been much better written before the film industry takeover by woke
CYNICAL tahts the word i was trying to say yesterday god i hate that..thanks bruv
Yeah this movie really isn't a woke feminist movie at all but less people are going to give it a shot due to all the feminist slop recently.
Literally the first time ever that I’ve seen Chris Hemsworth on the big screen and didn’t leave the theater thinking I was just robbed of 2 hours of my life and a ticket worth of money.
Mad max was in this film - When she is walking in the desert alone after having her arm removed there is a Shot of Max and his car eating then turning and looking at furiosa collapse. She is then dragged away by max
2024: when "Simple, solid, dependable" is the highest praise you can expect for a movie.
It really isn’t though. We had Dune Part II which really was quite fantastic.
@@braynjohnson4302 lol u dont even know, still better than most but half of the characters are race switched.
@@birdsrcoolxc34 I can only think of 3 characters that are black and it doesn’t matter that they are.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. People have gone from legitimate gripes about DEI and Hollywood to not being able to enjoy actually well made movies because they’re looking for anything that might be construed as part of “the message”.
@@birdsrcoolxc34My god dude take the cope pills already
sad but you are very correct. Last good movie I thought was worth the ticket price is The Equalizer 3. that's it. Well i did like The Northman but that all i have thought was worth the buck and that's including annything in the last 8 years.
The lengthy gap between the films is probably explained by this 2022 bit from The Telegraph: "In 2017 Miller’s production company filed a $7 million lawsuit against [Warners] over an unpaid production bonus. Miller wants to make two sequels: a Furiosa spin-off with Theron and another Mad Max film, Mad Max: The Wasteland. Both are in suspended animation as the legal case plays out." - so it looks like the film was "on pause" for at least 5 of those 9 years due to the legal shenanigans.
I would love to see those
Nice info. Sad that it happened, as it really hurt this new movie and probably means we won't see that "Mad Max The Wasteland".
Exactly. Warner sabotaged the entire franchise to weasel out of a few million dollar bonus. It would have been out in 2017 or 2018 if not for that & the Max-centric Wasteland project would’ve been out 2022 or 2023. Just another in a long line of bad WB decisions.
Warners are consistently competing for the title of worst studio in Hollywood. First the stupid DCEU, where the rushed movies to keep release date withing yearly quarters that would earn them extra bonuses, then the Fantastic Beats movies and how they handled the Depp case. Then they were being weasels with Chris Nolan which is why Oppenheimer is a Universal movie. Now this Mad Max thing which I had no idea about.
@@valentinegonsalves7322Never forget the tax write-offs and mutilation of HBO Max content.
I really can't stand people constantly saying how an affect "wouldn't have been possible without cgi". They'd say the same about all the stunts in Fury Road were they not done for real. Literally ANY shot is possible practically, it's just a matter of being out-of-the-box enough to figure out how to do it. Tons of amazing affects were accomplished long before cgi was ever a thing. But that kind of ingenuity and initiative seems sparce now to say the least
Exactly!
You also have to take costs into account. Many practical effects on the level of Fury Road could only be done once, had tons of downtime in the middle of the desert, and in the end didn't even create such a big hit at the box office.
You know there is a ton of cgi in Fury road right? Right?
In fact cgi is everywhere you only notice bad examples of it. F.e. so called "no cgi" Top Gun Maverick completely replaced planes digitally.
Turn on the tv... ppl are reee taaar did. And that's being nice
How do you film a car and its inhabitants getting sucked up by a giant tornado with the car then exploding into a great ball of flame?
There is also a ton of CGI in Fury Road. It's just done extremely well, used relatively sparingly, and (other than in the example above) compliments the huge amount of practical effects instead of replacing them.
Overall, it was an enjoyable movie. The young woman playing Furiosa was lovely and capable. Rather than just girl-boss her way, she used guile and intelligence to navigate her way through the perils of the wasteland.
My only question afterwards was, is her name Furiosuh, or Furiosahhh?
Still wrapping my head around Fury Road coming out TEN YEARS AGO! I thought it was 3 or 4 years ago.
Same
I mean technically nine (2015) but yes I’m always amazed when I see a movie and I’m like what?!, this came out when??!!
Yea as a millennial time started running real fast. We getting old!
@@dayoltay
Getting older isn't what makes me sad it's that the world is getting worse and worse. I mean I know some of that just comes with and indifferences between the generations but things really have degraded quite a bit in the last 20 years or so.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Yup, going downhill on all fronts really fast
"Mad Mad Minus Mad Max: Minimum Max"
A No-Maxx Saga.
More like "Meh Max".
Mad Min
But, it may be the best mad max lol
.Maxed out!
Unironically, I appreciate your impartiality in this review Drinker. I haven’t seen it in theater and now I wish I had.
I'm glad I saw it in the theaters because it didn't disappoint. Almost every movie I've seen in the theaters over the last 6 years has disappointed.
Chris Hemsworth wearing a cape in another movie ......LOL Edna Mode's head is exploding
No Capes!
He said that was sick of capes which is understandable lol!
@@ZyliceLiddell Even though he hasn't actually stated it, it's so obvious he was only doing the marvel films for the paycheck for those last few films at least when he started to say he didn't like how Thor Ragnarok turned out. He's probably embarrassed he stayed in that terrible franchise for so long even if the money was so good.
Also, if I recall correctly, when the War Boys see Dementus coming with his acolytes, one of them asks "is this Valhalla?" haha I bet when they were brainwashed by Inmortan Joe they never expected to see Thor in the Wasteland.
Far as I recall, nobody was especially enthusiastic about a prequel about Furiosa back when it was sort-of-announced, some 8 years ago. Since then, Hollywood managed to thoroughly poison the well regarding female led action films, and Mad Max as a franchise returned back to its coffin, so I'm hardly surprised it's not doing all that well.
Also, the original film was made on a budget that probably would not even cover a day of catering for this one.
Imagine if they made and released it back in the height of the me-too/girlboss era in 2017-18. It would have been a billion-dollar movie.
Funny how when you know what you're doing, it doesn't require a massive budget. A man, a shotgun, a supercharged V-8. What's not to love there? Easy peasy. But Hollywood today? Let's spend $200M elevating DEI in movies and earn back $2M and get our media friends to tells us how great it is.
Fury Road was a Furiosa Movie with an ultra feminist message. And it cost tons of money.
@@Raskolnikov70I seriously doubt that lol. Fury Road wasn’t exactly a cash printing machine and there wasn’t really anyone begging for Furiosa prequel.
@@GaryCrant you should rewatch the movie
When I first heard about this movie months and months ago, I thought "who wants to see a Mad Max movie about the character I was least invested in in Fury Road?" I wanted desperately to know more about MAX from that movie, not her. So I decided a long time ago that I wasn't interested.
I think one thing that cant ignored is the fact that people are financially struggling man
It costs like 100 bucks to take your family or even just go on a date to the movies
The idea of a "box office hit" and movies doing crazy numbers at the theatres when people dont have any money + the fact that it will likely be on a streaming service you already pay for within a few months is going to make people.. well.. not go to the movies
the only people I know who go to the movies are my parents
Though I would agree with some of the other comments that a part of the dismal box-office sales are undoubtedly due to lost confidence in Hollywood's offerings and the insults to their own audience, yours is an overlooked element and I would also agree that is probably another significant factor; economic hardship from rampant inflation and lost jobs/wages is hitting people hard and discretionary spending is out of the question for many people.
I didn't know how bad I wanted to see 'Old Man Max' until you said it. Damn, that would be awesome. Whether they tie it in or not, would bring great closure to a character and bring some overarching plot point and continuity for the rest of the franchise.
Gibson back in the role would be an actual blockbuster. That would be awesome.
he is too old it would be worse then picard or the indiana jones he is just too old to pull of an action movie like that
the franchise doesn't need continuity, mad max is more like a myth or legend. he just passes through, gets stuck in someone else's problem, helps them out in a badass way, and moves on with his own journey, disappearing into the wasteland. and johnnym is right, mel is waaaaaay too old to get into an action movie like this now, they would have to jump cut everything to death like liam neeson in taken.
@@jonnym4670He's 68. Maybe too old for a leading man role but definitely not too old for old Mad Max. If anything, he's naturally weathered which could add to the role.
The stunts don't always mean he is hanging off the back of a tanker. George Miller is smart enough to write a script that could incorporate his age into the script like James Mangold did for Logan. It could be pretty damn awesome.
@@DoroteoVilla He could do it. Just dope him up with vitamins and testosterone. Then he can hire himself a trainer and go all-in on the John Wick training.
What the audience really wants is Old Mad Max with Mel Gibson
Meh, nah. Another Tom Hardy adventure is all i really wanted. No hate on Gibby though OG Mad Max is in my top 10 movies of all time.
Where he’s a miserable bum who is rescued by a strong female protagonist!
Which audience wants that? 😭
THAT would put bums on seats !
Tom Hardy
When I watch a prequel and it poses a question that was answered in the original I still enjoy finding out what line of thinking convinced them to choose that path.
"Maybe it's just general apathy towards Hollywood these days?"
Apathy?? My good man, I am NOT 'apathetic' - I absolutely DESPISE them...
Preach, brother!
I bet they're all absolutely gutted about that.
Same, the wrighters, the actors, the producers, the directors, all have treated the common man with contempt. Hollywood deserves nothing but bankruptcy.
@@ph8077 Use your big boy brain and try to think about this. Millions of people not paying for Hollywood movies....leads to? That's right! Their stock goes down in flames and their investors abandon them! It's already happening to major companies like Disney and Netflix. Good job buddy ole pal! Proud of you for working that one out and getting the ole noggin joggin🤣
Precisely, nail on head.
I'd have to say one of the biggest factors is box office wariness. It's not so much the money, but time that people are being more protective of & the fact that they cannot trust the sources they used to for an honest preview of a film. If they're streaming something at home, they can just turn it off if it feels like a waste. In a theater though, you've invested more than just the time of the movie. You've invested getting everyone to the theater & back, which either took your own gas or the cost of an Uber. You've stood in line for tickets & concessions. You've gotten to your theater which in some towns there's only one screen and others have a multiplex so it might take 10mins to get from the concessions to the theater.
People think I'm insane for pointing this out and that I'm nitpicking, but all of that adds up and people want to have assurances that they aren't wasting all that. So now here comes the second arm of the problem; they can't get honesty from mainstream sources anymore. From being called names, told we can touch grass if we don't like, ignored so they can shill for big corporations to get access, and flat out lied to about the actual contents of the IP itself, why waste valuable time, money, and brain cells on an industry that has firmly told us to go fornicate ourselves?
This. Exactly
Pretty much this, Last movie I watched at the theater was Oppenheimer, and I went because 1. I love Nolan's movies and he always delivers at least for my taste, and 2. I saw the buzz online not from the press, but for actual people. after that I haven't put a foot on a theater again
True. They have jaded everybody and saturated the market with garbage. Not to mention it’s a mad Max movie without mad Max. It’s not a shocker it failed spectacularly. This could’ve been one of the best movies ever, and it still would’ve fell. It’s mind blowing to me how desperate they are to make a female lead action movie a hit. It never works these days.
Word brother!!
Children watch youtube as well. Linking p*rn on you're channel, and having a provocative photo as your profile pic in order to get people to visit your channel is pathetic degeneracy.
I feel like this just doesnt catch the gritty nature of Mad Max Fury Road. Like holy hell the over use of CGI in here is crazy and its to noticeable. Fury Road also had its share of CGI but it was only used when necessary and was blended better.
In addition the got Immortan Joe kind of wrong and didnt really portray him at a younger age. Immortan Joe was in his 60-70s in fury road. So when he and Furiosa meet for the first time he should have been like at least 20 years younger and not afflicted by that many ailments like we was in Fury Road.
I just got a few pints in me and I think I know how the idea for this movie was pitched. It went like this - let's have a Mad Max movie with no Mad Max. Let's make it about Furiosa, but with no Furiosa people know either! Wile E. Coyote, super genius!
Everything looks so clean for a post apocalyptic desert. I live in a suburb with access to car care products and I can’t keep my car that shiny.
To me, this looks totally artificial, unbelievable and difficult to look at.
I mean if they showed people polishing those cars to every last detail and part of it, that would make a lot more sense since the gas trucks in that universe are scarce obviously
I'd say in this universe where vehicles and gasoline are basically a religion they would take very good care of their machines and with all the time on their hands with would modern society distractions they have lots of time to keep them polished up and sparkle.
Just look at the moment with Chris Hemsworth at 00:10. The DUST alone should be constantly caking the vehicles!
@@TundraCrow sorry but you are absolutely wrong just ask people living in the desert like dubai
the dust and sand is brutal it gets everywhere no matter how much you clean
General audiences don't trust Hollywood to entertain them anymore. With rare exceptions, many people are turning away from mainstream entertainment to alternative sources.
You know Hollywood is in trouble when people would rather watch other people's pets on RUclips than go to a movie.
Wait until Deadpool hits cinema
Eh. There have been some really good movies in the last couple years, but they are the exception to the rule.
@@GaryCrant And then? People know that it will be an outlier, cause Reynolds had a lot of say in this afaik. Nobody trusts Disney that DP3 will be the turning point, on the contrary, they have made it clear they won't change their ways, regardless of what Iger says and promises for a year now.
@@DarkSun123456789 companies who want to make money will always change according to their customer base. Even without Disney there will always be another great Hollywood movie
This is the only channel I watch for movie reviews
I absolutely loved it. The world building alone was worth the price of the the ticket double over in my opinion.
Don't let on that you'd pay double otherwise they'll put the already astronomical prices up!!
I agree... I liked Fury Road - but I thought the world building was really thin, and I wanted to know whats up.. Now I know.. and I feel a rewatch of Fury Road will be all the more poignant now!
Up next: Father Ted reboot focusing on a Mrs Doyle origin story.
Dances with wolves, starring a Female US Calvary officer trying to save the Sioux.
Go on....go on go on go on go on go on go on go on...
I hear you’re a supporting character now father? How did you get interested in that type of thing?
Hope a young Father Jack (RIP) comes into that too
I hear yer a racist now mrs Doyle...
I can confirm. I hardly care what is in the movie theater nowadays. I'm lucky to see one movie a year in theater and it has been this way for almost a decade.
Yep same here. I've never been a huge movie guy but I used to go to the movies once every month or two months. In the past ten years it's about once a year and in that time I only really liked two of the films I saw (Edge of Tomorrow and 1917).
Same. And I used to be a regular theater-goer.
It's got to the point where I don't even know there is a new movie out until Drinker makes a video about it 🤣
many people still go to theaters. i'm praying they have finally seen the light and won't blindly continue to support disney, etc
same. used to enjoy going to see new movies. but most simply suck now.
Fantastic movie. You can tell how much care and effort went into it.
Quite simply, I Loved Furiosa.
Just a great fun film to watch. Shame it didn't do great at the box office
Yes I agree the action was awesome and Furiosa was cool
Hollywood told me I wasn't their audience anymore, so I stopped coming.
And if you don't watch anyway, you're a low life bigot.
If the future is female, as a male I can at least let the females have it.
It would seem rude not to.
This is 100% correct for me as well. You hate? Cool, I'll go read a Larry Correia book. I don't NEED to see your movie.
@@zimrielIt would be interesting to see how they handle WW3
Lo ha resumido usted perfectamente.
Apathy is only a part. Going to the theater is becoming an expensive night out. Who wants to take a $45 gamble that a movie isn't going to suck?
I was going to write the same. It’s definitely ticket prices. And the food prices!!
Nobody talks enough about this. I'm looking to take my daughter to go see a movie and it will end up costing like $60 for a 2 hour movie that I'll stream in a few weeks. Meanwhile, steam had a sale where I can buy 2 copies of Enshrouded or whatever, and that will cost the same for 10s of hours entertainment
Wow, I just spent 14 dollars on two tickets a bucket of Popcorn and two sodas and it wasn’t on Tuesday where is a 50% discount
@@norm-bb3bb Must be a pretty good theater then, the only one where I live costs like $20 bucks a piece for tickets and if you want any refreshments you're just screwed. Can buy like 3-4 movies for the price of taking 2 people out to see it with minimal extras, which plays a large role in why I bother going to see at most 1 movie a year if I bother at all.
@@norm-bb3bb Wow, you're lucky ! That's the price of a can of popcorn and two small drinks where I live. The tickets aren't even included.
I think that where I generally agree with the Drinker, we disagree on one big thing. I don't want to see "Hollywood" make a comeback . I wanna see it burn....
Then Asian cinema would take its place.
Perfect movie to see in the theaters - loud, exciting, excellent costumes and visuals, good acting. The story isn't bad either. Really glad I went to see it despite not being excited by the mediocre trailer. Overall I thought it was just as good as Fury Road and the world building here is top notch.
Am I the only one missing the expertly shot and mostly practical action scenes of the predecessor? All this new weightless CGI overload didn’t really do it for me in this movie
Right there with ya. I can't even remember the last movie I was actually excited for; they all feel like the same thing with a slightly different coat of paint.
same, the trailer is only cgi shots, that's why i won't see this movie to the theatre. love the practical from fury road
I was shocked at how phoney it looked. Everything looking so fake almost defeats the purpose of these movies
@spacemanspud7073 at first I thought it was a video game trailer.
I watch the scenes and it's practically a Thor Love and Thunder with more of its CGI. It looks fake.
Wait.. This was a real movie? Is that the chick from Queens Gambit? Now that is a good show!
Pretorian Jack was my favorite person in the film
Yeah the movie should have been literally about how he came to be, not this bullshit chick trying to be men shit
I work with several people in their 20s. None of them had ever heard of Mad Max when I told them I was going to see Furiosa this weekend. There is a serious marketing problem in Hollywood.
Shame as they probly would enjoy it too
Even the people who went to the effort of attending the sneak peek Premiere had essentially no knowledge of Mad Max.
I think that the world's entertainment sources are so fragmented nowadays which makes it more difficult to market to a mass audience. Gone are the days where everybody could only watch a select few TV channels and see a movie trailer.
must be early 20s and im guessing their tastes lie on the either the braindead mainstream woke disney/marvel/netflix/avatar/barbie movie side, or maybe those whom have a film genre named after their 'descent' and have thusly developed the progressive belief that they shouldn't watch a movie or relate to a character if they aren't a color representing themself. Cuz anyone by all rights shouldve at least heard of this movie.
@@LetheanschemeThat's a lot of assumptions - many younger people just aren't into movies in general. They prefer TikTok and videogames. 🤷🏻♂️
personally i think it would have been a lot more interesting if they made a direct sequel to the 2015 movie only this time a more stand alone Max movie, serving as a throwback to the 79 original. Back to basics, very straight-foward 90min movie. It would have been cheaper, and probably a lot more profitable than this one could ever be.
I would have been down for smaller scale "Max in the interceptor". Car chase film.
Writing something semi-original takes too much effort nowadays.
Ever play the WB Mad Max game that followed Fury Road? That's the movie we need. Chumbucket is 10x more entertaining as a side kick than anyone in this new film.
Isn't Furiosa pretty original? It's not like they seem to be rehashing anything. And from what the critics are saying it's a well written film.
But let's be real. The only reason this got greenlit in 2024 is because it stars a female character.
Without that, there would have been zero movie made.
The lack of box office attendance is going to stay the same except in rare cases where a movie appeals to a strange mix of age demographics. Top Gun Maverick comes to mind.
If you look back at the history of home video sales you could see the trend emerging as far back as the VHS days, there was often just as much money there, and in the case of some movies, more money to be made than there was in theatres. Theatre runs are expensive. The theatres themselves pocket I think it's nearly half the ticket price. If you made 500m in theatres, and 300m in home video, you actually probably profited more from the home sales than you did the theatre run.
Home video sales also show there has been a growing appetite by Americans & Europeans specifically to watch content on their own schedule, own pace, and in their own homes.
Streaming is just the latest version of home video, so any nation that has high internet saturation is going to have very depressed box office numbers.
You also have to factor in that the average American doesn't have as much disposable income as they used to, and the ones who do typically have home theatre set ups. A "proper" trip to the movies is going to cost you between $20 and $30. For some of us, that's our weekly food budget.
Similar to the Anakin Conundrum. Yeah, some people wanna know the history of this character, but not everyone. And when you tell us all these details we dont get any real fulfillment from it.
Was young Furiosa going to get killed by Dementor? Nope, we knew she wasn't. Was Dementor going to kill Immortan Joe? Nope, we knew he wasn't. Right there, the two main characters of the movie have ZERO suspense in regard to two of the main plot drivers. "Oh so that's how she lost her arm." and about 10 examples of "Oh so that's where that guy came from." are about all this movie had to offer - my opinion, for what its worth.
shit thaks i didnt even need to watch the movie i saw it all clearly in my head...you should be a screen writter
that is a general problem with prequels, most suspension gets lost because you already know who dies or lives.
I didn't even take this into account. That's absolutely true. Although it's still possible to create suspense when you go in already knowing the outcome (Titanic, Phantom Menace) or when the ending is revealed at the beginning of the movie (Irreversible, Memento).
That's the main reason why black widow is the only marvel movie I haven't bothered watching. Zero stakes
I dont think that matters at all because you go into almost every movie expecting the main character to live and win.
The only mega event movies I can remember lately that worked were GOTG 3 and Barbenheimer (Which Im just calling one movie for obvious reasons). They both were anticipated in a wide social sense and thats whats missing: there is no social connectivity over going to the movies anymore. Unless a movie becomes a massive hit on social media discussion first, people don't come out in droves. The movie industry is walking the green mile right now. Maybe...MAYBE a series of massive hits can reverse that and convince people to return to the theaters. More likely, people would just tune in for whatever movie happens to catch lightning in a bottle and that won't translate to the industry as a whole.
The problem I have with this younger Furiosa is she barely emotes when she gets wounded, even the original emotes when she gets stabbed or punched.
I doubt that the whole “girlboss” issue, much less the whole “Mad Max without Mad Max” angle is the explanation for the box office dropoff. As others have rightly pointed out, Fury Road came out nearly a decade ago, and that’s the main issue with the marketing. People forget who Furiosa is, people forget who Mad Max was. I highly doubt that ANYONE went to see Furiosa expecting it to include anything more than a Max cameo. Those people are the ones who those a one-second look at the poster.
Make no mistake, this is a well-directed, refreshingly simple and well-paced movie which is full of entertaining sequences. Anya Taylor-Joy is excellent at portraying Furiosa with just her actions and expressions. Chris Hemsworth is delightfully deranged. Is this as good as Fury Road? Not quite, but really, Fury Road is a high bar for non-stop big blow action.
As to the whole “why?” question, well, simply because George Miller wanted to tell a story. If you ask me, that is a far, far nobler intention than the money churners of Marvel, or the ego and agenda of a Rian Johnson. Miller always had in mind a trilogy of which Furiosa would be part of, and due to production setbacks and the unprofitability of Fury Road, only managed to get it done now, which is unfortunate.
Some people in the comments are dragging Furiosa like it’s a Phantom Menace, or a Last Jedi. Hardly. It never promised to feature Max, it never acted as though Furiosa herself was a flawless female heroine, there is no agenda at work here. So go watch Furiosa in theatres. Well worth in my opinion. I saw it with a friend and he was shocked to realise at the end that the movie was 2.5 hours long. He’d thought it topped out at 2.
Nah 🥱
People who decided not to watch this because of 'No Max in here' or 'woke issue' yada yada seriously missed out a classic great action flick. Let's just admit it, the action and pacing are quite bangers on their own.
@@FadazMada And yet people are happily discovering the Mad Max video game and enjoying it. Imagine that, a piece of entertainment media that actually features the main character and not some interloper riding the coattails of the main title.
@@leiferikson5029 And? does that invalidate that people really enjoyed Furiosa? Does that invalidate that Furiosa is indeed a banger on its own, since its obvious that its a Mad Max SPIN OFF?
It is the overuse of sequel/prequels instead of new ips that hurts this movies
Just seeing that image of Mel Gibson as an old Max just makes me wonder what if?!
Never say never. They're gonna have to do the right thing sooner or later. Hollywood has to bring home the bacon somehow & what they're doing now isn't cutting it.
Yeah, it's probably AI generated at 5:55, but man it looks good. I would pre buy the ticket years in advance if I could
It’ll be the actual 4th Mad Max to take place after thunder dome. Fury road and it’s miserable sequel will be forgotten!
Fury Road was originally supposed to be WAY different!
@@rkifismo8215 Nah George Miller has already said he doesn't have a story for an older Max
I thoroughly enjoyed Millers latest instalment. Glorious in IMAX and God, that drum beat on the action scenes was hypnotic.
I wish I watched it in Imax. the segment with the rig and the parachutes was fucking great
@@KyzirGordon It is worth it. I watched it twice in IMAX. The action scenes were beautifully put together and I just love how steady Miller keeps the camera still and centred, despite the absolute savagery and mayhem witness on screen.
Its a good fkin movie on its own, having the Mad Max tie-in only confuses people and makes it seem tacky
Mad IMAX
@@juanchocorleoneThis made me chuckle 🤭
I've never seen anything mad max related prior to this movie. I had no expectations going in, and was completely blown away by this movie. It's an excellent entryway into the greater franchise, I just wish more people got introduced by it.
The last time I watched it, I was the only one in the theater.
i loved everything about this movie and I'm very happy it's been made with love. if all movies had this level of love, we'd all be better off.
The director sued the movie studio for trying to screw him, and corona is why it came out so late.
pamela 😍
yea, I believe the studio tried to withhold part of his pay with some bullshit about him not completing it fast enough and it had to go to court before he was able to continue
You made me remember that! Yeaaaaah, damn Warners, by this point, we would have gotten a proper Mad Max movie.
Corona didn’t happen until 4/5 years after the last movie had wrapped, it’s not an excuse
Really?
I don't care if it's a flop based on box office sales. Many movies flop before becoming cult classics. It's not about opening weekend... It's about quality of story. Even the original Mad Max wasn't a massive success in America at first. And now... It's legendary. Seeing this film tomorrow. I'm open to an expanded world and deeper lore. Sounds great to me :)
This movie is truy a masterpiece. Deserves an oscar for best director and best picture. I haven't enjoyed a movie this much since watching Boon Joon-Ho's Parasite.
It’s like Dune Part 1 after Part 2, which is weird but still fun
We DO need another hero.
This movie was made because George Miller wanted to make it. It wasn't made by a studio focused only on making as much money as possible. It was held up because WB and George Miller had a dispute over bonus pay, so it took a long time to negotiate a deal for a new movie. And to be honest, there's a chance that positive word of mouth will give this movie a boost, and give it a bit of a late-week surge. People saw 'female-led action spinoff' and rolled their eyes, expecting the worst.
Yeah, Hollywood has trained many people to just give things a pass. Hopefully word of mouth will save a movie that looks pretty good to me.
@@charliedehn3587 Meh, it's a shame that people are so easily led by bro podcasters and Fox News and shit and can't think for themselves when new movies come out anymore. Furiosa's dope, it's made by a director with a great track record, everybody liked the character when Fury Road came out, and it's been well known for years that it was about Furiosa and not Max.
Personally, I think this has less to do with wokeism and it's more like just an industry issue we've been seeing across the board since the pandemic started and trained everyone to just wait for everything to come out on streaming. Every now and then something will come along that's so good it can't be ignored, like Dune Part Two, but ultimately this trend is happening tons of great movies regardless of whether it's female-led or not. You just only notice the female-led ones because it confirms the narrative you've been trained to believe by the media you voraciously consume because you love feeling like a victim, like all of Hollywood's got it out for you when they really don't.
@@woojoow i am entrenched in the film quagmire you refer to
@@woojoow Uh.. No, part of the problem is people dismissing this issue as if """"wokeism"""" is a real issue. It is, people are being hand-fed, propagantist garbage, so when you finally have an actually good movie with a wonderful female lead, no one watches it. Genuine talent and art is being buried because of all the f*cking trash being forced out, and i'm so fu*cking sick of seeing genuinely good female led movies, or anything that would traditionally be seen as "woke" but literally not made with that in mind, solely making good characters and a story, and them being completely overlooked because people are so burnt out and tired of this bullsh*t. I don't get excited at any mainstream media, because I know i'm blatantly being pandered too as an lgbt woman, and it's f*cking demeaning and patronizing.
So, yeah, you kinda get the point. The Fox News and bro podcasters are cancerous sh*t, but """"wokeism"""" is very real, and it's blatantly spitting in the face OF minorities while we just drink it aallll uppp.
@@woojoow Good directors too often get crappy when they get old enough. Clint Eastwood did Unforgiven (masterpiece), but also Gran Torino (crap).George Miller is another. Fury Road...but also this stinker.
I went to see the movie a third time today, just before it leaves IMAX. Man, it gets better every time. The first time I saw it, there was a lot to take in. Lots of important detail flashed by almost without you remarking upon it. Or seemed arbitrary in relation to Fury Road. But you only realize that later. Every time I've watched it again, more pieces fell into place. The strange thing is also that the movie seems to become tighter and to flow more smoothly on repeated viewing. It does not feel nearly as long as one might expect from a two-and-a-half-hour movie. An amazing thrill ride, with (it has to be said) a more developed story line than Fury Road.
I have a feeling that if Furiosa had been released in 2015, and Fury Road in 2024, reviewers like this guy would be just as dissatisfied with the latest instalment. They might complain about the story line: racing to the Green Place, finding it's not there, and then racing back to the Citadel. Happy ending, Hollywood Style. They might also say that Miller relied too much on chase sequences for their own sake, that they seem dramatically unmotivated. The first leads nowhere. The second gets them back to where they started, except Immorten Joe is dead. So that's the story? Immorten dies and there will be World Peace? One thing that the would-be reviewers would understand is Furiosa's heartbreak when it turns out the Green Place has vanished. So would we, much better, probably, than we did in 2015.
Of course I completely disagree with such short-sighted thinking, but it shows that neither movie could top the other, regardless of the sequence in which they came out. BTW I wouldn't worry too much about Max. I predict that the next instalment will be a prequel to Furiosa. The one thing that remains most conspicuously unexplained is why both Max and Dementus lost their families, at some point before Furiosa starts.
If that was at the same time, then clearly they responded to the loss in different ways. Dementus decided to become a ruthless warlord (something he is spectacularly inept at), with only the stuffty recalling his days as a loving father. That agrees with much of what he says to Furiosa at the end of the movie. Max, on the other hand, is tormented by flashbacks which suggest that he had failed his daughter, that she had died because he didn't act as he should have. When this background is explored (I hope), the end result may be a coherent trilogy with an overarching story line. Don't underestimate the genius of George Miller. Watch Furiosa a second time. Or a third. Or in my case, a fourth.