Driven the E63S and the M5 F90 non comp, the F90 is a masterpiece of a car, no other words for it. Basically the best car you can get for the money, an insane allrounder. The E63 feels faster and sounds better, but the M5 is more comfortable and IS faster. Interior has a higher quality (Benz interior looks nicer imo tho), but the E63S is indeed stiffer then the M5. Bonkers. The Amg is a tad more emotional to drive, but the M5 is just perfection in every other way. Not surprised the G90 couldnt top this, no sedan will probably top this one as a package. And still looks so good.
@@azizdrives well I think he's right, I don't see any other petrolhead journalist that has the "power" (read : balls) to say non politically correct things. I hope you keep this energy, it suits you very well. So thanks in advance for dropping legendary car prices. Lol
I also drove both of them. I honestly can't agree that much on the brutal part since imo the E63s has a more crispy and thunderous exhaust note (pre opf like this F90), in pair with the MCT shifts it makes the experience more emotional. It is slightly slower but feels faster, the launch control is more engaging. The M5 performs better, the ZF8hp is top notch in terms of auto gearboxes. But I don't care that much about those tenths of a second. Sure a bmw owner would go for the M5 and vice versa. For me the M177 in pair with the MCT just makes the deal. Probably one of the best V8 engines out of germany, especially desirable without an OPF. The interior is slightly better build together in the BMW, but the E Class has features that make the experience a little more astonishing. For example the Bowers and Wilkins in the M5 isn‘t great for 7'000 bucks. The equivalent Burmester High-end does not only look cooler, but blows out your ear dreams if you want so. The M5 is more sort of a precision tool, the AMG more muscle. Both equivalently great great cars, at the end it's preference. If you care about the slightly faster and better handling car, then the m5 it is. I also use the air suspension lift frequently, comes in handy.
It really is a matter of preference, both cars are excellent. You have explained everything wonderful and i agree to the mct being the more fun gearbox. The m177 is fabulous anyway.
You can set the transmission shifting speed to be crazy fast by using the buttons on the gear lever. I believe you were on the slowest setting. Regarding the reliability - your opinion may be biased by the reviews of the old versions of this engine, specifically the one on the first X5M/X6M which was terrible. The F90 has the fourth generation of the S63 engine and there are vehicles with 200k kms for sale with the original engine. There even was a F10 M5 sold with 330k kms having the original engine and gearbox (the F10 has the third generation). You should check the F90 forums and see for yourself that people are very pleased with the reliability of the engine.
I own the normal F90 non comp with the same spec as this one mine only beeing donington grey. I prefer the normal one to the competition as it has a way more brutal sound stock (Last M5 with without OPF) and it is a bit more comfortable. I love this car but i gotta say - if you love your life you feel like its too comfortable because if you would drive it, like you're supposed to drive it, you have to carry your gravestone on the backseat :D great video!
F9x gen m cars are THE m cars to buy, the s63 tu2 in the f90 from 2018 and up fixed all the issues, my dad has an f90, from new in 2018 and the only issue he had was thanks to a rock shot into the intercooler by an f82 m4 launching in front of him, but the car was and still is an awesome car, reliable, fast, good looking, sounds great (we have very chill emissions regulations so it’s LOUD from factory) great sound system, comfortable and did I say fast? Nothing beats an m5
@@lamadrague2887 S63 engine is somewhat reliable over its lifetime but those rods are thin and they suffer from rod bearing problems. You’d need to rebuild the engine to make it last like a B58
bro, zf8hp could be better than dct, just need proper soft, i dont mean about xhp st3, but something like turbolamik, when you have burnout mode, gears kicks you on back, gears shifts faster than any dct, and many many things
@@mateokovac2642doesnt matter v8 bmw is fast but really bad engine , most of the offers are with 30-40k miles (70k km) and most of them are already with replaced engines
@@GamingGod13322 same thing with pre lci bruh . I just like the lci headlights and bumper . But yeah low pressure fuel pump and coolant reservoir tank . Considering how competent of a car f90 m5 is i would say those are very minor issues and fixes. Good luck
@@azizdrivesi found out I had it after a keen eye pointed out a look on my face, only recently I rediscovered what a normal stomach feels like. I thought I wasnt going to get older with old people health issues
@@pierre-davidmoreauYou speaking from experience? We rented one for 2 years and it didnt blow up at all, despite bad fuel and getting floored 24/7. Stop spreading bullshit dude, the prefacelift 550 was bad.
@@origaminefretami3480 I had 4 bmw ,i had 3 Mercedes and i own 35 cars . I do mecanics, bodywork and at the age of 13 yrs i did car detailing for 7 years . How is your experience? Who is spreading bullshit now ? Go find a life somewhere else
The best sedan of the last 15 years.
I see Azizdrive + BMW M5 = I click😎
I see Azizdrive in general I click 😂😂❤❤
thank you man!
Driven the E63S and the M5 F90 non comp, the F90 is a masterpiece of a car, no other words for it. Basically the best car you can get for the money, an insane allrounder. The E63 feels faster and sounds better, but the M5 is more comfortable and IS faster. Interior has a higher quality (Benz interior looks nicer imo tho), but the E63S is indeed stiffer then the M5. Bonkers. The Amg is a tad more emotional to drive, but the M5 is just perfection in every other way. Not surprised the G90 couldnt top this, no sedan will probably top this one as a package. And still looks so good.
I love BMW but I think the M177 engine is more reliable
@@tubejorritit is, yes
E39 M5 lci
I’ve always said it
the actual M car the MAN 5 lol
@ with all respect i don’t see the point of your comment
@@35ddhe’s just referring the what Aziz called it on his review of the e39 m5 “Man 5”
@@35dd M5 E39 is such a manly car Aziz called it the Man 5
@@E39V8BMWM5 👍
The pops disappear after 74kph and of you do it too much, it also disables it untill you go in low rev range.
We know you're just saying this to make the price drop so you can pick one up for cheap as an investment Aziz
@@lucwijngaard8413 hahah i don’t think i have that power to do that
@@azizdrives well I think he's right, I don't see any other petrolhead journalist that has the "power" (read : balls) to say non politically correct things. I hope you keep this energy, it suits you very well. So thanks in advance for dropping legendary car prices. Lol
I also drove both of them. I honestly can't agree that much on the brutal part since imo the E63s has a more crispy and thunderous exhaust note (pre opf like this F90), in pair with the MCT shifts it makes the experience more emotional. It is slightly slower but feels faster, the launch control is more engaging.
The M5 performs better, the ZF8hp is top notch in terms of auto gearboxes. But I don't care that much about those tenths of a second.
Sure a bmw owner would go for the M5 and vice versa.
For me the M177 in pair with the MCT just makes the deal. Probably one of the best V8 engines out of germany, especially desirable without an OPF.
The interior is slightly better build together in the BMW, but the E Class has features that make the experience a little more astonishing.
For example the Bowers and Wilkins in the M5 isn‘t great for 7'000 bucks. The equivalent Burmester High-end does not only look cooler, but blows out your ear dreams if you want so.
The M5 is more sort of a precision tool, the AMG more muscle.
Both equivalently great great cars, at the end it's preference. If you care about the slightly faster and better handling car, then the m5 it is.
I also use the air suspension lift frequently, comes in handy.
It really is a matter of preference, both cars are excellent. You have explained everything wonderful and i agree to the mct being the more fun gearbox. The m177 is fabulous anyway.
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I enjoy your videos a lot 👍 greetings from Aargau. And I agree these gens were a lot nicer than todays modernity 🙏
Great comment
You can set the transmission shifting speed to be crazy fast by using the buttons on the gear lever. I believe you were on the slowest setting.
Regarding the reliability - your opinion may be biased by the reviews of the old versions of this engine, specifically the one on the first X5M/X6M which was terrible. The F90 has the fourth generation of the S63 engine and there are vehicles with 200k kms for sale with the original engine. There even was a F10 M5 sold with 330k kms having the original engine and gearbox (the F10 has the third generation). You should check the F90 forums and see for yourself that people are very pleased with the reliability of the engine.
Long story short….we all NEED A M5❤
❤yes amen 🙏
I own the normal F90 non comp with the same spec as this one mine only beeing donington grey. I prefer the normal one to the competition as it has a way more brutal sound stock (Last M5 with without OPF) and it is a bit more comfortable. I love this car but i gotta say - if you love your life you feel like its too comfortable because if you would drive it, like you're supposed to drive it, you have to carry your gravestone on the backseat :D great video!
W Aziz W video
i'd rather get a non comp. f90 without the particle filter.. couldn't believe thats stock when i first heard it in person.. sounds phenomenal!
The cracks and bangs are crazy for a stock car. Modded ones are almost too loud.
I have it. I love it. BEAST
Didnt know the new ones are still unreliable, thought they fixed the issues after f10
F90 LCI is more reliable i’m sure
Yes but still has issues. Injectors, sometimes differential
@@azizdriveswhy have you personally experienced this … I bet not 🥱🥱
@@azizdrives If you can afford the M5, you can live with the costs. are wearing parts.
Aziz , ur videos are so engaging❤
biggest bmw ambassador out there, i love it
I love my F90 M5 last of its kind
F9x gen m cars are THE m cars to buy, the s63 tu2 in the f90 from 2018 and up fixed all the issues, my dad has an f90, from new in 2018 and the only issue he had was thanks to a rock shot into the intercooler by an f82 m4 launching in front of him, but the car was and still is an awesome car, reliable, fast, good looking, sounds great (we have very chill emissions regulations so it’s LOUD from factory) great sound system, comfortable and did I say fast? Nothing beats an m5
It's a fantastic car but you will be lucky if you get to ~80k km without major engine failure 😢
Absolutely right!
Never heard of BMW not being reliable bro
If you don't do the basic maintenance yes, otherwise they're very reliable lately
@@kidnapthemoneyy01 even with a proper maintenance they are a ticking bomb.
@@lamadrague2887 S63 engine is somewhat reliable over its lifetime but those rods are thin and they suffer from rod bearing problems. You’d need to rebuild the engine to make it last like a B58
Thanks for the video Aziz.
How about fuel economy?
I would choose this one over the new one every day.. Simply perfection in and out. After E34 most beautiful M5 ever.
After you video I will buy one 😍about consuming in city ? 10l/100km ?
I dont know why but i really prefer the M8 over the M5
@azizdrives- which exterior better- cls 2017 63 amg or this m5?
bro, zf8hp could be better than dct, just need proper soft, i dont mean about xhp st3, but something like turbolamik, when you have burnout mode, gears kicks you on back, gears shifts faster than any dct, and many many things
what about the fuel consumption? Fuel economy test? Can you daily this ;)
Will do one
I average 14l/100 km on highway and 18 when stage 2 🤣🤣
It's a must buy
I prefer M4's to M3's and M5's but if I needed 4 seats and a monster of a car, M5 is an amazing choice.
I wanna see a review of the s63 😊😊
Its a new day its a new video fron Aziz 🎉
I spent thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands on repairs on my M550i
Prefacelift?
@@mateokovac2642doesnt matter v8 bmw is fast but really bad engine , most of the offers are with 30-40k miles (70k km) and most of them are already with replaced engines
Which one is lees likely to give me headaches and less likely to keep me stranded on frequent long road trips? The e63s or M5 competition?
The Lci m5 for sure. It has 2 known issues that makes the car pretty reliable if "fixed" . The low pressure fuel pump and coolant reservoir tank
@ what about the pre lci 2018-2020 years as those are much more in my price range
@@GamingGod13322 same thing with pre lci bruh . I just like the lci headlights and bumper . But yeah low pressure fuel pump and coolant reservoir tank . Considering how competent of a car f90 m5 is i would say those are very minor issues and fixes. Good luck
Bro you might have an early gastritis, please go see a doctor and have them check ur digestive system.
@@denizzsengul why tho hahah i think it was because i was drinking sparkling water 😂
@@azizdrives😂
@@azizdrivesi found out I had it after a keen eye pointed out a look on my face, only recently I rediscovered what a normal stomach feels like. I thought I wasnt going to get older with old people health issues
Sooo...hold onto my F10 M5?
If you didn’t have any problems with it. I would keep it
The only car I'm so hungry to drive and own 😭🙏🙆🤦🏾♂️
The last m5 is the e60 some say it' s the e39
Get out is nostalgia f90 is the best
Out of*
Do it :D buy one :D
I got my dream garage completed
Bmw m5 f90
mercedes c63 w204
and m135 n55
As always very gentle with bmw 😅😅😅
You know thats not true. What is there bad to say to the M5, i couldn‘t talk bad about the E63 either
How about try review the newer m5 ...not the latest
Aziz m5 apo e63s ?
Its really about preference at this point
E63s more complete car
M5 has been the daddy of performance sedans since 1984.
@@azizdrivesboth great , AMG is the one for me
Still don’t know which is better between the F90 Comp and G80 comp
F90 faster in straight line
Bmw m5comp F90 can still be bought as long as you don't buy m5 g90 only, it's another one for this g90, it's too heavy
e63s transmission is so much better than this piece of work
also, you did zero powerslides or racing in this video
I didn’t because there was no road to do that
If you want the pops and burbles you must be in sport or sport plus.
This guy looks like a criminal, who let him out to jail?
what car is more tempting - porsche or bmw?
Porsche. But if i had to choose between a Panamera and this one, i'd still take this. Its just perfect, car has basically no downsides.
@@mateokovac2642Did you watch the video and read comments?
@@nuky_999 no. Is it mandatory?
In Switzerland u can't enjoy powerful cars ...just for show off only 😂
Get the new m5 G90
Boy u crazy lol
G90 so much better, sorry.
I'm sorry but it sounds horrible. Like a hoover especially with the pumped in sound..
I like your videos but not B.M.W
4.4 litters v8 🤮 garbage engine a total garbage engine !!! The 4.8 was way better !!! 4.4 = Nightmare engine
Its really not that bad.
@ 😂😂😂😂😂😂 it’s one of the worst v8 what the F*** are you talking about lolll
@@pierre-davidmoreauYou speaking from experience? We rented one for 2 years and it didnt blow up at all, despite bad fuel and getting floored 24/7. Stop spreading bullshit dude, the prefacelift 550 was bad.
@@origaminefretami3480 I had 4 bmw ,i had 3 Mercedes and i own 35 cars . I do mecanics, bodywork and at the age of 13 yrs i did car detailing for 7 years . How is your experience? Who is spreading bullshit now ? Go find a life somewhere else
@@origaminefretami3480 My 18’ was a maintenance nightmare
Uncle azizdrive please, where is the m5 and e63 comparison video ? We really trust your words so we need a comparison please 🙏🏻🫡
Man 5