Can the Boss DD200 compete with the big boys?
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This, to me, is the ACTUAL successor to the dd-20. Even just looking at its controls, layout and the “memory/tap” switch, it’s immediately reminiscent of my dd-20. If anything this is more of a stab at that market. The dd-500 is a different animal altogether. It’s bigger and more powerful than both this AND the timeline. I’ve built convincing tape flange and chorus sounds with that stupid thing. It’s just so infinitely adjustable...unless there’s some powerhouse pedal I’m not aware of out there, it’s at the top of the heap in that category. This is a beautiful addition to the line, though. It’s perfect for guys who just don’t need/want infinite flexibility
That's what i thought too, just an updated DD-20. Rehouse, little tweaks, add a zero bam new pedal.
My thoughts exactly. I’m looking to replace my DD-20 (which I love) and just told a friend who also loves the 20 it seems like the next gen 20.
you can assign the memory/tap button to globally be a HOLD (see TE-2), WARP or TWIST (See DD-20) but you can't assign patch by patch. So if you like the press 'n hold action of the dd-20 and might use the looper, maybe add a 2 button ext fs.
Also, cool review. Also, back to back with my Rubberneck- I can get the Analog alg to sound identical in like, 2 minutes.
This won't stop me from buying delays though. That would be just silly.
@@myrnabrean
I can’t tell you how many times I nearly pulled the trigger on a rubberneck. That thing has everything I want out of an analog delay unit
Henning, thanks for executing an off-the-cuff no manual-at-hand demo, and showing us how this pedal stands up to the 'monkey method' of slacker pedal operation. It has a genuine hands-on game set worthy of purchase!
This DD-200 has everything i ever wanted (delay-wise) all in one box at the price of a normal "boutique" pedal. It will kick 2 or 3 pedals off my board when i buy it, next month or so.
this has become one of my favorite channels. thanks for disclosing this is a paid review...i always wonder on youtube. keep doing your thing Henning!
I had a DD2 and a DD6.Then a Korg SDD3000 pedal which is still great.It's big and the MIDI is just for presets.
I just wanted something smaller too and this fits the bill.
Thank You
Sounds like a fantastic delay. It’s ease of use and small size are intriguing me. Think I’ll be looking out for a used one!
Seeing that shirt reduced my life expectancy by 6 months
Lovely, musical delay and versatile too . Love those algo-rhythms ;-0
I just got one. It does everything I need it to. Nice and compact too.
There are hidden menus for system setup and button assignment, but not something you will need a lot I suppose. Boss had to get creative with the 3 character abbreviations this type of display requires, so manual diving is needed. Really digging your presentation style, thanks for the demo!
Best reviewer on RUclips . It is what it is 👍
Small clarification at 6:44 Timeline has sub-devisions but they're in the submenu.
Wow, thats a beautiful guitar sir!!!!
I just got one a few weeks ago because my flashback 2 died one day. I think the power got bumped while connecting a usb cable and the firmware was wiped. But I’m glad it did. The dd 200 was a big upgrade to my wet/dry setup
Delay Meditation after work with HP42. very relaxing.
The DD-200 is great!! but I sold mine because I went up to a DD-500 with no regrets :) I am one of those who likes to experiment with sound! create etc. and record with them!! The DD-500 gets on very well with the Nightsky reverb pedal!!! crazy epic sounds!!! you can make sounds like heaven is opening up
Great in depth review as all your demo's. I have the DD-200 for a few years. You have to dive a bit in all the possibilities but with great results.
Boss dd-200 and dd-8 perfect delays pedal to use for simple use and my type of delay to keep it tape delay or digital standard delay on dotted 8th 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Just bought one of these pedals and I totally love it.
It does all the "greatest hits" delay sounds you'd want for live use, it's physically smaller than you'd think, no menu diving for tweaking sounds, it's got analog dry through, and costs $250.
The only thing it doesn't really do is ping-pong but if you're not running stereo that doesn't matter.
It's about as good as it gets without going full-priced flagship delay pedal.
You can with the dual
@@thekramer1097 I didn't think the Dual mode offered a ping pong delay. What setting is that?
@@TheGgreen100 I have the dd500 but I guess they have almost the same algorythms. In dual delay mode it has the option to use percentages or milliseconds, I go with percentages. Then I do it with 50% time in delay 2 ( delay 1 stays at 100%) for quarter note delay. And for a dotted eight delay, delay 1 still stays at 100% and delay 2 goes at 50% BUT in the tap selection I go for dotted quarter note (if that makes sense) because I found that sounds more musical to my ears the slower trails bouncing from one side to the other. Anyway you can experiment what sounds best to you
@@thekramer1097 Ah, right. The DD-200 can't do that. It has a pattern delay that only features small number of specifically created delay ratios you can choose from. A standard Ping Pong delay is not in there.
@@TheGgreen100 Oh I thought it was the same :/
Boss was boutique before boutique was a thing. (IMO)
Roland/ Boss IS a big boy!
Since when did a multinational corporation become the small boy to boutique operators? Well, it did happen...
Amazing possibilities on this delay !
Just got this delay and like it a lot. I wasn't sure I understood the Pattern delay at first, but I find it's better for ambient stuff rather than trying to "groove" with it if that makes sense. Put a nice plate reverb after it and let all those repeats wash out. Sounds really cool.
Loved the intro - that was inspiring!
Thanks, Henning. Great review.
Your gear collection is incredible man, also awesome sounding pedal
Boss rule.
Always have, always will.
Fight me!
nah ... we're good ;)
Nope, on your side too, Usal.
They do rule. There’s a reason they’re still going strong after 45 years. They make great quality and great sounding stuff.
Can you reach more than 4 memory slots directly on the pedal? I assume the 4 on the panel are user memory direct access, but are there factory patches you can scroll on the unit?
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How does this compare to the DD 500 in terms of sound quality and types available?
rolandcorp.com.au/blog/which-boss-digital-delay-dd-200-vs-dd-500 sound quality is pretty much identical. 500 has two simultaneous engines which you can run in parallel (one on the left one on the right) or in series and there's a "vintage" delay model which covers the early digital delays. There's a broader range of parameters for each algo. The 200 is much more dialed in to sweet spots but the 500 will let you go places that make no sense, or, maybe they do.
Don’t have either pedal but the 200 has more physical controls than the 500, even though it is smaller in size. So, if I were to get one of the DDs, it would be the 200 for live performances.
Taunting me with that sexy AF PJD...Damn you Henning! I want one! (and I am a bassist that noodles on guitar)
best digital delay pedal EVER made.
I almost got one of these but elected for the DD-8 instead, maybe later on I'll get one.
Could you elaborate? Im on the same dilema, what make you choose the dd8?
I have a DD-8. I'm debating the DD-200. I basically need to control my tempo and the level of the effect, really, although being able to switch between delay "flavors" would be nice. I'm a midi noob and would want to synch it up with my GigRig.
Still using an old Boss DD-20. Is this worth the upgrade?
100%
Having those silly midi cables coming out of the side negates the smaller form factor because you then can't position the pedals side by side.
Peter Schaefer -I have never seen a right angle midi cable, just 1/4" jumper cables. They may exist...
Exactly! These pedals look as if they were designed to be lined up nextbto each other, but if you want to use MIDI, tough luck!
@@thomaschilds8781 BOSS BMIDI-1-35 :-)
I like the Eventide stuff
Does the guitar come with the shirt when you buy it?
Love the T-shirt Henning. Where can I get one of those?
Henning, you are so awesome
Very cool to see an oil drum mode
Ty . Great video 🥰
This thing is really cool! I might actually get one .. The only thing that annoys the heck out of me is when pedals have the tap tempo button on the right side.
For me pedals that need to be tapped usually are at the end of the chain and therefor on the left of my board .. tapping on a tightly packed board is way harder to do when the button is on the right instead of left.
I completely understand. It’s the reason that I still like the boss classic stomp boxes with the large foot pads over these little buttons. If you align these pedals side by side it’s so easy to hit the the wrong button with your foot,
A year late, but for those who are discouraged by this, you can change the function of the buttons or you can even use an external two-button footswitch and assign two other functions.
Never underestimate Boss and you will usually come away very pleasantly surprised and often with some extra money in your pocket too.
Mr Henning you used to make great videos , now that you are getting paid you should at least look up the manual or for any updates, to share correct info.
Jennings I’m not even kidding I returned a timeline was gunna buy one used the guy is playing games .So I was thinking I am going to get the DD 200 I played one and liked it .but man then here is your video and that opening little jig you were playing by the way sounded stellar henning . Ok ok fk enough so of course I love your videos and low and behold I was the 200 th person to like this omg do I win this pedal or some thing lol. It was my birthday on the 8th common my friend lol . Ha ha great vid henning .tim from London canada.
BOSS delays always feel like they hit too hard on the slapbacks. Not smooth enough.
There’s a tone control on these that helps that 100%
fantastic
I would say yes, it can!
Henning looks sweeter than before!
I'm reading the manual and I can't find how to kill the dry signal. edit: ah it's the output setting :3
Lesley is clearly a saint.
Woo more crazy german man
I finally realized who he reminds me of … Werner Klemperer!
Looks more like Jarl Varg too me
The Devin Townsend Ocean Machine is great. 2 delays, a reverb and a looper and enough inputs and outputs to choke an elephant, for like 280 Euros. Why not just buy a Boss Katana? I mean the delays in it would be quite comparable to the pedal, I would have thought...plus you get an actual AMP, with a speaker and everything..with lots and lots of additional boss effects inbuilt?
Because maybe one would prefer to not put a boss katana in a pedal board just for the delay? This is a delay pedal review. Not "what you can buy for 250€" review
sold!
This device is too way too fancy for me, though I like the sounds. Probably best fit for a recording environment.
3 AA batteries adds up to 4.5V, at 225 mA, that is probably not gonna last a whole gig.
I agree Henning, drop the battery compartment and include free midi cables or even proper standard DIN in and outputs.
For like 50 years the five pin DIN plug was the standard for MIDI, why change it? Mini jacks are for audio in my humble opinion. Avoid confusion.
Boss DD500 or boss DD200?
To replace my old DD20
I‘d go for the 200
Does it sound as good as the old DD2?
Guitar looks like pallet wood from the back. Luckily the bit noone sees. Unless you show it to them.
Are you doing an md200 video?
yes
What's the big selling point of the DD200 over the DD8. Modulations? More time divisions? Thanks, nice demo.
Probably having a bunch of saved presets if you need to have different delay types or speeds on the fly, also more parameters/tweakability. Otherwise the dd8 seems like a super great delay with (i think) all the same delay types/sounds that this has.
@@jmacc9876 Thanks dude. Yeah, I've since picked up the DD8 and am extremely happy with it. Sounds great.
This or the Mako? Great video btw
depends on what you need
@@EytschPi42 for getting something near the timeline without breaking the Bank, to be able getting good ambient sound and quite easy dialing to sound configuration. What do you think?
pretty champagne coloured guitar in the background (hanger stand)... what is it?
Player Series Mustang
@@EytschPi42 thanks
Nice ladies PJs.
hi can you do a vidoe on Hotone Looper Cybery
20:00 Come find your place in Tennessee!
Does it have spillover?
I never had any good luck with Boss Equiptment, but then electric watches won’t run on my wrist. It sound good. Good luck, maybe you could do a follow up after 90 days. They tend to crap out around 60 to 90 day. Have fun and take care.
This unit has a 5 year warranty, nice try though
Boss is built like a tank. Your trippin @oldguy
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while.
My dd3 is as old as the hills, looks that way too but still pulls like a train.
Amazing... .what this delay can transform the guitar into .... Bit of a trance feel.. gonna try this on some delays ony zoom g5n I've never touched .. make a the guitar even more cool.. and even ever so cool playing ..
Boss DD-200 or Walrus Audio D1?
Trying to decide this one myself. Boss has analog dry-through and pretty sure Walrus does not though if that helps. Universal Audio Starlight Echo Station also looks intriguing. But $400 and not released yet so no reviews.
@@thebeacon1906 Sold the D1, sounds were ok but the interface is not for me! Love the DD-200
@@thebeacon1906 Buy the way Ive had the Timeline and El Cap, miss the El Cap
Oh awesome. I unfortunately have not tried any of them. El Cap was also one I was looking at. I think I’m gonna go for the DD-200. Appreciation the feedback on the D1/dd200 dilemma.
@@thebeacon1906 The DD200 has knobs for most things, more presets would be the only change I would make
It doesn't even come with DIN-MIDI and I am not sure about line level input, but this is a minimum requirement for a good studio pedal. Therefore: no it CAN'T compete with the good ones.
the DIN midi is going bye bye now and the small ones are what's hip and they work just as well
@@EytschPi42 That's FAKE NEWS. DIN MIDI will not vanish that soon. Most new keyboards still have it.
@@Waldemar_la_Tendresse in near futur MIDI will be cableless, and work with bluetooth technology. Builders keep midi Din not to fuss keyboard gearheads. But it will disapear for sure
@@rodolpheponthus2948
And what exactly does your statement have to do with the pedal presented here?
To be honest, I doubt that a bit, since you often have to operate a dozen devices in the studio and Bluetooth often messes up even simple point-to-point connections.
How does it compare to an Empress Effects Echosystem regardless of the price point?
Unfortunately it just sounds cheesy to me
In answer to the title. Dont care i 💘 love mine
By “big boys” do you mean the overpriced boutique delays?
Boss was a big boy long before those companies even existed and will be around when many of them are gone.
People that want there pedal board to look legit fill it with pedals from your “big boys”. People who want it to work right and get the job done use Boss. I’ve seen a lot of live shows lately where people plop down a $5000 pedalboard full of Strymons and botique pedals and all of what supposedly makes them cool/unique just gets lost in the mix of a full band in a live mix. Bedroom playing with headphones deludes people into thinking that’s what they need but a live situation makes most of it irrelevant
Right, that moment a company that has been killing it for almost 50 years isnt a big boy... I mean maybe they had some low points. But they have many Staples and iconic pedals. I really dig alot of the stuff they are doing now.
Boss build quality isn't what it once was and the sound of their pedals is always "OK" not "Great"
@@benink5690 I've never seen a broken Boss pedal. So much for the build quality. As for the sound, I think my Boss Blues Driver sounds great. My old DD-5 sounded great and even the Super Chorus sounded as good as most other choruses I've heard so far, apart from the chorus of my Re-301, which is, surprise, the same as a CE-1. I'm looking forward to my DD-200, but I'm fairly optimistic. :)
@@toniusheidemann5771 Boss pedals are definitely the toughest.
But they used to be tougher.
They never sound as good as the alternatives imo. But if you want it to work and do what it says then yea buy boss. But I wouldn't call the boss sound anywhere near the best.
VH Cathedral?
are the guitars available in the usa?
Not in a store... but they would ship you one!
The DD -500 IS still king. The presets just aren't inspiring.
Worst ducking delay ever
Everything better than an overpriced Strymon. I really dont get the hype, i really dont. They are good, but that is all in my opinion. They ask much to much money for their products. The quality does not match the price by a long shot.
first.
Not intuitive. Looks like medical equipment
That’s the only problem I have with the boss stuff wish they would give it a splash of coulor and add some lights everything does looks very boring when compared to ehx and strymon having said that they do build kit that never breaks
Technical Comment:
I wish you could turn /adjust knobs in a way that the camera/viewer can see which knob you are changing & how the screen changes with the knob tweaks .....rather than just the back of your hand. Otherwise a cool demo.