Nepomniachtchi | Candidates Run, Matches VS Ding & Magnus, Cheating
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- We had a great discussion with GM Ian Nepomniachtchi covering a variety of subjects. We talked THAT candidates final round battle, Ian's two matches against Magnus & Ding, and more. Enjoy, and don't forget to show Ian some love by checking out his channel : / @lachesisq
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
1:53 - 13th round game Ian vs Hikaru
7:18 - 13th round game Gukesh vs Alireza
11:53 - Ian's approach to final round
15:49 - Fabi's decision to play d4
20:22 - Final round game 14 discussion
23:29 - Ian's thoughts after time control game 14
27:00 - Ian's thoughts in last moments of game 14
29:00 - Fabi's thoughts/analysis in last moments of game 14
32:50 - Ian's recovery from game 14
36:45 - Ian's match against Ding
40:29 - Ian's thoughts on Gukesh's performance
46:17 - Ian's thoughts on new generation Indian players
48:17 - Ian's thoughts on Alireza
52:30 - Ian's realization of his own efforts needed / capabilities
55:50 - Ian's training routine during off-season
59:05 - Ian + Fabi's WC match predictions - Ding vs Gukesh
1:05:40 - What if Ding withdraws from WC?
1:09:25 - Fide circuit (a.k.a circus) opinions
1:11:44 - improvements in Fide rating system
1:19:20 - Ian's prediction of Candidates 2026 players
1:24:26 - Fabi's prediction of Candidates 2026 players
1:28:18 - Ian's content creation + cheating thoughts
1:32:30 - closing remarks
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The conversation that we didn't expect but surely needed.
Just started. Your comment further cemented my interest
It was pretty obvious tbh. If there was anyone in the candidates then it must have been Ian, cuz of his apology to Fabi in the end and a very good chat with him in the post match conference
the amount of hidden humor from nepo is hilarious
He said Alireza is a great player with great openings..bruhhh😂😂😂😂
@@Hellhammerrr Magnus started that meme when he said he wanted to play Alireza for the title.
Always.
Nepo shaking his head while being called a legend 😅
Sign of a legend
Humble guy!
The Candidates Champion
Does C-Squared need some training on how to create time-stamps? All time stamps can be called "Ian".
Gukesh is 2760 and he is not bright as per Ian. Is Ian himself bright because his rating is not very far away from 2760. So dull Ian saying Gukesh is dull.
Always loved the fact that Ian always wear his emotions on his sleeves.
He does make things very interesting. I love when he comes back to the board after an opponents blunder and he makes a face like he ate a shit sandwich
Seems like a cool and good guy.
Probably one of the most obviously autistic people among top GMs. A lot of them are bound to be autistic as well, but they mask it much better
Nepo has to be the only active super GM who can genuinely say he felt worse for Fabi than for himself in a game when the stakes were that high, and have everybody believe him. The guy’s sportsmanship, his creativity and offensive brilliance is why he is the stuff of legend, and he has cemented his place in chess history even though he hasn’t managed to win it all. Not unlike Fabi, actually.
The two titans who gave everything for their final game, but was not to be. Excited for the convo !
Nepo has become one of my favorites players of all time last couple years he's incredible and yes definitely a legend
45:50 Fabi Cristian in sync
HAHAH IM SATISFAEDDD
Imagine this sync when Fabi is in dire straights on the board....Cristian must be squirming on the floor :)
Wow, you got Nepo on. Thank you for doing this discussion. It is fascinating to hear your thoughts at the elite level.
I like Nepo. Him apologizing to Fabi at the last round of The Candidates is a class act, though he didn't need to since he's playing for the win as well.
Nepo is such a legend. Very high praise to him
Crybaby legend
@@buzztube1738n
@@buzztube1738if he cried he had good reason he’s achieved much but might have tears for the things he hasn’t achieved yet still he’s a Legend
For the last few years I've been a fan of Nepo and Fabi both. They seem very grounded, humble, and like good rile models for the next generation.
Thanks for having open/friendly conversations and pulling the curtain back for the fans to see. Wish you both luck in the future.
What a world we live in where we can have two top 5 players talk together after their game to decide who will become the world championship challenger. Some newer folks to chess might not realize what a treat this insider information is
Historically, chess was always also a game of secrecy and politics. But the interconnectedness of the world via the internet plus the emergence of engines, aka free prep for everyone, has transformed the scene completely. What a time to be alive.
@@potatoonastick2239nothings perfect past present or future
I’m relatively new got into it a couple years ago and it still seems unreal even to me that it’s happening
This is incredible. How beautiful times we are living now. Having these two monsters freely talking about such a historical tournament. Thanks a lot.
Damn, Nepo is one of the nicest guy IRL
I know he is very funny (as most russian GMs are) during interviews. But he is really fun to listen as well.
Thanks for thos C-Squared.
the glazing is wild
make sure u open your mouth wide and open when he deep throt u
And racist
@@buzztube1738Really? What did he say/do?
@@commanderbacon6426 watch their segment on gukesh
Bro what? how is he nice? he is always dropping names and on a knifes edge on making accusations 😂😂
Loved that term by Nepo "to blackmail with a draw"" meaning to offer your opponent a repetition in a game where is a must-win situation for both to make them deviate with an inferior move.
Grischuk said "I feel like a terrorist"
@@u.v.s.5583 That's even better!
Thank you very much for invitating Ian. it was a very informative and interesting conversation!
As far as the candidates format goes - I would do it as follows:
1) World champ runner up - Why take this long standing tradition away?
2+3) Top 2 finishers in World Cup
4+5) Top 2 finishers in Grand Swiss
6) Highest FIDE circut from past year (or two)
7) Highest rated player at end of year.
8) The final spot should be determined as a wildcard based on a mini-tourney. This would generate so much excitement, and there is plenty of time. Invite:
A) #3 finish in world cup
B) Winner of another FIDE tournament in the year (this would make that tourney more important)
C) Next highest FIDE circuit
D) Next highest rated player
Make this tourney some knockout match play. World cup style - 2 games classical, then rapid/blitz tie breaks. Will finish the whole thing in a week's time. Winner gets the 8th spot in the candidates.
Creates more secondary chances for someone just missing the qualifications above, and adds quite a bit more importance to everything.
I just want a system where there's at least 1 exciting tournament to watch in any given month. So let's say we have:
1. World Championship Runner-Up (I agree it makes zero sense not to have this)
2. Two spots for the top two of the World Cup
3. Top 2 Grand Swiss
4. Highest rated player
All these are extremely logical and add weight to the ratings and the World Cup and Grand Swiss. But what I'd love for FIDE to do is target the most prestigious tournaments in the world, and ensure they're connected in some way to the Championship cycle. If the Cycle is the main thing we're playing for, then it needs to be the star and it isn't. If Wik an Ze is such a historic event, winning it could guarantee a Candidates ticket. If Norway Chess, Lenares, Sinquefield etc. are game they can take the last few spots. You need the tournaments in the calendar to be consistent; otherwise how can you build prestige or hype or brand recognition? Give chess fans a battle for a Candidates ticket once a month and more people will watch these large tournaments.
And that way you're, in a sense, always advertising the Candidates and always advertising the Cycle. If every time I tune in to Wik an Zee, the commentator is talking not just about the tournament standings but how those affect the Candidates, it all starts to feel like one connected circuit, rather than disconnected events.
Thats a really cool idea and the concept works. But im not so sure about tournaments. They are a really good way of telling who should play the candidates but i feel like thats just adding more and more stuff behind it and might make it not as accurate to the best players in the world now since its just one more thing that players would have to prepare to.
Last chance qualifier would be fantastic
WCC runner needs to go
@shashishekhar---- It will go in the next cycle. But it's a long standing tradition. I like traditions.
I used to think poorly of Nepo in the past because of his losses to Magnus and Ding, but in hearing him interact with Fabiano and in this interview I just have to say he is definitely a legend and i would follow him online.
Wow was not expecting this in my feed but happy for it
Nepo be crazy smart. What an absolute joy to follow along your conversation. As always with Fabi and Cristian, understated, meandering, brilliant.
I see C-squared podcast. I press like button. I watch. I enjoy. I learn.
Huge respect for these two!!
Oh cool, I had previously tried watching Ian’s recap of the candidates on his own RUclips channel, but both parts were fully in Russian and the auto-translate kind of sucks. So it’s fun to see that you guys brought him on to talk about it, and that he was willing to do this
Ian has a youtube channel? What's it called?
@@alanprak80 It is called "Yan Nepomnyashchy"
Y'all read our minds. This is exactly the post mortem commentary we needed!
I could do with more of this banter per episode. Especially with unfiltered legends like Nepo. He’s a great guest and I’d be thrilled if you had him on more often.
This is my favorite podcast episode to date! Only critique is that it isn't longer. Thank you so much for inviting Ian, he is such a wonderful guest - so insightful and full of humor.
This is going to be a blast!!
I wonder what Nepo meant by his comments on Gukesh's performance in the Candidates. Especially cause he said Gukesh's comments in the interview reminded him of "Chess speaks for itself". And then later he says that Gukesh is still a mystery to him. Interesting for sure.
was thinking about the same, maybe he expected more detailed post-game analysis by Gukesh after the games, but maybe Gukesh wanted to keep his preparations intact that's why he didn't open up. From this podcast, I think Ian might be feeling a bit sus about him. But I know there's nothing there.
Woah didnt expect Nepo to be on the podcast 😮
I love love love these podcasts. I never thought I’d stick to hour long ones as most RUclips videos are like 20min long max but for some reason these are super addictive :) get so many unique insights into the minds of top players…plus it’s fun!
Crazy to have gotten this interview. Good sportsmanship guys
In an alternate universe where Magnus never played chess, these two are the most likely to be world champions. Absolutely amazing to live in a time where we get to see two legendary WC challengers share their views and insights about chess for over an hour.
Nice! Thank you for getting this done so quickly.
Awesome podcast… great to see both the players!
52:00 One thing I find interesting about the Firouzja conversation is I feel like everyone I've seen discuss his talks as if Chess is the sensible, "real" job choice and him pursuing fashion is the distraction. And I feel like that's a perspective only people in the chess world could have. I can understand being disappointed in a talent leaving the game before reaching their potential, but if he does very well in fashion he's not made any mistakes by pursuing that instead. It seems like something he enjoys a lot more right now, at least compared to Classical chess, and honestly I think that's totally fair.
There is two reasons for that;
First, chess players are the ones giving their opinions, but second, the reason it is a fairly universal assumption (as you note) is due to exclusivity. Anyone can be a fashion designer. It's not hard, and its an entirely subjective industry, with whether you do well or not largely come down to luck with how your taste interacts with the masses. To even be able to become a Grandmaster is an insanely difficult and rare feat, and to be a peak Super Grandmaster is one of the most exclusive opportunities in the world; something that is additionally held in high regard because the cultural view of chess is viewed as refined and intelligent. To put it bluntly, the two opportunities are not the same, and it is not difficult to see; heck, because chess players decline in middle age you could even go into fashion design later in life, but the reverse is not true. HOWEVER, as you correctly note, what matters isn't the cultural perception of value, but what you yourself value and want to do. In this context, it is indeed a perfectly permissible option for Alireza to choose fashion design, but that doesn't mean those who would view that choice as Alireza not fulfilling his potential as completely wrong. It would indeed be a waste of talent, that just happens to be less important in practice than it might seem in theory. You can be a "wasted talent" and "happy and successful" at the same time.
To add to @rowanmales3430 , Alireza is not so serious about fashion either. He self-admittedly is only pursuing it because he is in Paris and Paris is famous for fashion. It also seems like he is viewing fashion as a kind of break from chess and not as a serious career. Compare him with Parimarjan Negi, who quit chess completely and is now pursuing a PhD in Stanford in computer science.
Something you are missing here with regard to people thinking he is throwing away his career is this- he is already in the top .001% in his field (chess). Do you think he is top .001% in fashion modeling? No he isn't.
Great episode. Nepo is a legend. Please get Gukesh for the next episode. We want Fabi and Gukesh discussions.
The episode I was so looking forward to yay!! 🥳
Awesome interview, great from Ian to be so open about everything, really loved this one. Ian we definitely want to see some recaps!
I got so excited when I saw this pop on my feed!
Congrats on 70k
Btw Ian has his own YT channel)
It’s so nice to see how much Nepo likes Fabi. It really shines through in this talk. Both are such great humans ❤
Ian is an absolute legend, and there is a great Magnus quote about Ian that I'm gonna butcher, but it was something along the lines of:
"There is no reason why Ian with his talent and understanding can't be as good as anyone in the world. The only one standing in his way is himself."
Coming from Magnus that is probably the highest praise I've ever heard him give his anyone of his competitors, except for one. Who coincidentally is also in this call, and I'm ofcourse referring to when Magnus said about Fabi "He's got just as much right to call himself the best Classical chess player in the world as me right now" after their WC match.
When Magnus once was asked who he thought was the most genius chess player he said it is Nepo.
Loving this convo
When I saw the title I thought that you would be talking about Nepo. not that he would actually be on the podcast. that’s a very nice surprise. Thanks a million.
Alright, I remembered to write some timestamp notes this time while watching:
18:07 Nepo references Grischuk terrorising Giri with a draw. (Video: apvz8Y7qMJo )
51:10 On Alireza's fashion career; and also Nepo's DoTA hobby.
1:00:30 Nepo mentioning an interesting "prediction" to a FIDE official re: Gukesh...
1:04:00 Ding's impromptu preparation for the WCC... Wei Yi's poem.
1:05:25 Will Ding defend?
1:13:07 "Garry will claim your rating spot!"
1:15:15 Firouzja farming Chartres Open?
1:22:45 Nepo farming Grand Swiss winners
1:23:25 Hans for the Candidates lol & Magnus granting another 4th place World Cup slot
29:40 underrated moment
@@andreavailetti874 Oh yeah! Also 26:52 - the "coin-flip thought"...
This was fantastic! I love Nepo’s self-deprecating humour and he is so endearing wearing all his emotions on his face.
Fabi's joke about being murdered by someone outside the playing hall was a killer!
Nice interview and conversation. I loved it so much ❤
Great podcast as always gentleman, thank you. Shout out to Ian, Didn't know he had jokes as well! Very entertaining and thanks for shearing your thoughts on the tournament and games.
loved it thanks guys and all the best for the future
Good interview!
Wow! What a nice surprise. I've been watching too much chess content lately, to the extent that I saw Fabi and Nepo in a dream tonight, and now this episode is released.
13:44 Ian has very strong intuition as a player. Should've trusted your guts and prepared for d4
45:40 In a way it reminded me of 'chess speaks for itself' 🧐 Niiiice. Very subtle.
1:09:00 The FIDE circus 😂
Yeah, I agree about "chess speaks for itself," Elena. Is it only us 2 that see Ian potentially incriminating Gukesh with cheating? I like Ian, I like Fabi, great podcast etc etc. But it surely seems as if they've buried the lede here.
Great episode! Ian is really funny guy. It's also hilarious that both Fabi and Ian picked Hans for the next Candidates. All we need now is for Magnus to claim that he won't play a WCC match unless Hans is his opponent.
I really enjoyed this podcast. I love Ian's infectious smile. He is someone that it is easy to empathize with his emotions. He is genuine. Love hearing two titans in chess just talk shop. So sorry that neither of you won it this year. And finally - wish that Wesley So was in the candidates.
this is gold! I LOVE IT!
Lots & lots of love Ian and Fabi
"there is nothing to recover from" nepo is tough as nails and i hope to see him in the next candidates
Absolutely brilliant interview.Nepo was just superb.Funny,factual and quite transparent.Hope Caruana and Nepo win the WCC at some point .
May be in your dreams!
@@sugavanambalasubramanian8536 Maybe!?
Ian is one of my favourite players. For me, alongside Magnus, he is right up there with top chess players with a sense of humour. Such a great chess player too and seeing his insights here were great. Part of me really wanted him to win the candidates and fulfil his desire to win the title that he's gotten so close to twice !
Amazing that he agreed to an episode!
Great convo, I really enjoyed listening to you all 😁
This is the best in-depth chess content. Thank you! 🙂
My two favorite players from the candidates. So happy to see this!
Seeing Nepo on Fabis Podcast makes me so happy- two legends on and off the board ❤❤
Watching the game was completely tense. What a match between them 😊
There is this section “Ian’s thoughts on Gukesh’s performance”, and they discuss the only game he lost. Very cool, guys 😂
Well he pretty much made no mistakes in any other games so not much to talk about
2 chess legends, truly magnificient players, both just short of that secret sauce that makes for that killwr instinct and elite mentality. Great show, thanks
Nepo seems like a really cool guy
The best chess content of the year. Thank you.
Nepo and Fabi seem to come around on accepting that Hans is destined to become the first American World Champion.
first American WC? How about Bobby Fisher
@@elena__sh Ask Hans! I don't know how to resolve this conflict between his declared goal and reality.
Loved this podcast. Thanks guys for all your thoughts
Amazing podcast, you guys are awesome 👌 👏 👍 💖
amazing podcast to invite Ian to weigh on recent battle in candidates. Imagine back in a day top players gather and discuss like this
I wish they had asked Nepo how he came to put Gusti into his team.
Message to youngsters : Don’t play well & beat oldies. Then you will be called a cheater!
I read from GM fabiano's eyes the pain and disappoitment, what a Gentlemen !!!!!!!!
Ofcourse Ian is pissed that Gukesh don't talk rigorously about his in-game approach in post match interviews, since he just doesn't let anyone to grab any clues in their preparation against him haha
WOW!!! This is exactly what I wanted and needed!
Didn't expect they would make an episode with this
Nepo, the gentle yet sometimes passive aggressive king! 😂❤
Can anyone tell what GM Fabi was referring to in the very end?
Nepo is cool - direct, not couching his thoughts with fake balance and correctness
Great episode!
This was a fantastic listen.
Best podcast yet. Very interesting discussion from some clever and likeable people.
Nepo is someone who, if you don't get him, you are put off by him. But eventually, I think, most people see that he's a sweetheart, and his comments should be given the benefit of the doubt
Wonderful to listen to this!
Anyone knows what game Fabi is talking about at 1:30:55?
Two absolute chess greats. Hope one of them becomes champion one day
Great to hear from Ian and love his ironic sense of humour!
I love Ian & Fabi! Absolute legends!!
1:17:00 I think rating qualification would work totally fine if you couldn't just jump into random tournaments 5 days before the deadline and have them count. I saw Emil talking about how not feasible it is to have some sort of FIDE calendar where all valid tournaments must be registered decently in advance, and I just couldn't understand why. Every other sport manages to organise tournaments in advance, it just seems the fair way of doing it. If you're doing qualification by rating list as at the end of December, then any tournament that affects this should need to be announced by at least September to prevent the nonsense we saw with the circuit and rating spot this year.
I'm a simple man, i see a new C squared video i click instantly
Our two world Champion we never had🥺 hopefully in the future they will get that crown👑
Great video! Can we have Ding or magnus on the podcast :)
The timestamps are from some other video it seems. They don’t speak about whatever it says
Amazing!!
I don't always agree with Ian but man do I love and respect him so much ! He is such an amazing player 👏🏻
Both the Timestamps in the details of the video and the Chapter details look totally off
So unexpected but happy to watch this
This might have been your best guest. Really enjoyable.