To be a fan of both Fabiano, and Nepo, made the last round incredibly exciting. Draw was an absolutely heartbreaking result for both, but as a fan, this was the best tournament I've ever seen. Thank you for your efforts
@@notsoeloquentcrazy how literally 70% of the games are draws in every tournament. Also, have you ever seen a Nepo game? He plays very exciting chess, maybe not like Firouzja does for example but no one plays as creative/aggressive as Firouzja or Rapport or Dubov you know.
@@gus8696please don’t compare Nepo with Dubov, Rapport and Alireza. Nepo in every other tournament except Candidates plays conventional chess (not dull). The reason is when you 2750+ people expect you to be inventive. Players like Nodirbek or Parham or Keymer or Vidit (recently) have gained audience because they play different lines. Offcourse no one can be as crazy as Alireza, Rapport or Dubov in a good way but still.
@@michaelmassaro4375 I think he will go for the wc next time untill he gets it or gets too old. He is always working hard and gukesh might win against ding and then caruana defently wants revenge. Mby he dont see it that way but he still would want to be WC and gukesh is one of his rivals just as everyone else. Only Magnus says he has no rivals and its almost true
@@Fabiispedo Never heard of this before, do you have any source to this, or are you just throwing blatant accusations for the sake of it? Edit: Saw the reddit post, I think it serves no one well to speculate in the comments, hence why they keep getting deleted.
Hi Fabi, I just wanted to say you were the reason I got into chess. More than the magic you have produced on the board, it was the way you conducted yourself outside those 64 squares that resonated with me deeply. The manner in which you handle pressure and disappointment with the same poise and respect you would show in a victory is inspiring. I hope you continue to inspire and raise the bar for what it takes to be a professional , and hope you bounce back stronger at the next candidates, rooting for you all the way! Cheers from India
Fabi and Christian completely won me over, starting with the Champions Tour in Toronto not long ago. I've been a huge fan ever since and the constant good naturedness of both players, as wellas their openness has been really enjoyable. What a heartbreaking draw but Nepo deserves an incrdible amount of respect for his poise and resiliance.
Thanks for opening up! I m always rooting for both, Fabi and Nepo (and I really enjoyed watching the last game!!)... Thanks Fabi for staying a legend and wish you a quick recovery!!
Fabi - you are a gem of the chess world. Exceptionally balanced in your analysis and conclusions coming from such deep care. You are a great player, will be a great administrator, coach and absolutely wonderful human being.
Such a cool conversation. It feels like this would be hard to talk about but hopefully it can be cathartic for you. Thank you for doing this for chess fans, the insight is incredible
Wow, two hours of great content awaits us! Looking forward to it. Fabi - it’s been a pleasure watching your games in the Candidates, I’m sure you will be able to come back in the upcoming cycles. Cheers!
still so sad for Fabi, you can tell how much it means to him and he is such an exciting player to watch. I hope he comes back to win in 2 years time. Many thanks for the insights too, amazing to listen to
He is very articulate I think his goal is to be World Champion and Best player in world otherwise he’d probably make a great career as a You Tuber with his own program
@@michaelmassaro4375I feel Fabi is probably the only person who if he became world champion it could be argued that it could have happened even if Magnus was still around if Fabi was playing his best
The discussion about closed vs open tournaments is very interesting. I agree with Fabi that people mostly use this as un excuse to justify poor performance or criticize players they don't like. That being said, the Elo system only gives meaningful ratings if there is a single pool of players. If there are multiple pools, as in if there are a top x number of players who only play each other and never play anyone else, then their ratings demonstrate their strength relative to each other and not the general population. An extreme example of this was Claude Bloodgood, who achieved an extremely high rating by organizing his own closed pool of participants.
Agreed. Also to do differential analysis, the FIDE circuit qualification is one spot. So, instead of lets say the fourth place from a world cup qualifying, you have this. A player performing consistently well in Open tournaments qualifies. Nothing changes.
Even though I was pleased to see Gukesh win, it was bittersweet because of Fabi's loss. It is very easy to root for Fabi as he seems to be a true gentleman of the game and conducts himself well all while being incredibly strong. Hope to see you in the next match.
@@notyourbusiness4011the only thing I found that too on reddit was a Twitter dm screenshot that looks like a girl has sent to another girl. Only there is sth concrete we should not accuse. I learnt that from many cases that happened in my country and one happened with a very famous cricketer by his wife and in another highlighted case an innocent yojng boy had to spend 4 yrs fighting his case whereas even after case was proved to be false girl escaped easily by moving to Canada. There are many other such cases
As it happens often Fabi has a very rational approach. Yes you can game the ElO system, you cna enter invitation tournaments and play for draws until you reach some level, or you can go and play against a bunch of weak players, but both strategies will help you so far. By nature, it will lead to a ceiling. Anything we know of can be tampered with. Even so it seems that by far Fabi's proposal is the best we have. Perfect is the enemy of good, and keeping the awful way because the other good proposals are not perfect is nonsense.
Hi Fabi, I was never the biggest chess fan in the world, but do like to keep up with what is going on in the big tournaments - particularly the world championship. Doing so in 2021 and listening to your commentary is what made me take a greater interest in the game and your career in particular. Irrespective of what you achieve going forward in the game (and I believe the sky is still your limit), I just want to say that the way you carry yourself is inspirational. You always present as a calm, approachable and consummate professional, and I find myself thinking of things I have heard from you through my day to day. Since becoming a fan of yours, I have befallen some hard times in my life, but looking at the example and attitude set by you (and Alexander Volkanovski) in the face of hardship has helped me process my difficulties and move forward in a productive way every time. Thank you so much Fabiano, you are a great man
Here a probability analysis of the key players for winning the event after the few remaining rounds: after round: 10 11 12 13 Ian: 28.59% 47.28% 30.04% 11.11% Hikaru: 13.53% 23.63% 32.65% 22.22% Fabiano: 13.82% 7.48% 8.37% 11.11% Gukesh: 27.09% 19.53% 28.94% 55.56% The analysis includes all cases with tie breaks, and assumes equal chances of winning the tie breaks for those moving on into tie breaks.
I watched the game live. I screamed at the screen, threw pillows, and felt the miss. I can't even imagine how you felt Fabiano. Really I don't have the temperament. I would have to go to the gym and burn my frustrations.
Fabi I am sure thst was heart breaking for you in ways normal people can't comprehend, but I just want to say that so many people out there appreciate your fightijg spirit so much and that we're proud of you
Imagine when Fabiano and Nepo realize it’s a draw they start making blunders on purpose like “You deserve it more than me”. Could be an Oscar winning drama
I discovered I was rooting for Fabiano by the end of the tourney. I had no clear favorite, but I was gutted at the end. Come back stronger than ever, Fabi!
Him and hikarus clocks are ticking. The youngsters are only getting stronger as the veterans have already peaked. Their chances are dwindling. Hikarus best opportunity was this year. Fabi still has a chance. But if these guys are getting schooled by guys half their age, the odds only get tougher.
@@Wargasm54 They aren't getting schooled tho. This was incredibly close and there are so many incredibly different ways this turns out. There really isn't a chess playter that is dominating. Gukesh played the best but it's hard to call him head and shoulders above everyone
@@XoPlanetII don’t think that’s necessarily true if there were a hall of fame for Chess players Fabi and Hikaru are shoo ins the candidates and ensuing World Championship even Magnus feels the status it gives is overrated and doesn’t automatically make the Champion the Best player in world
@@michaelmassaro4375 hikaru will be remembered as a famous streamer maybe or will be recognized for his pre moves and bullet skills , but why tf will someone remember fabiano? i am not judging him based on skills , he will always be the #2 chess player of this era but with no classical title ................... even now people remembers legends like karpov , kasparov , fisher , vishy etc but thats it some may remember alekhine , tal for the name in the opening or brilliant games but no one remembers player like caruana
I found the candidates incredibly exciting. Everyone was taking chances rather than lifeless draws. I am very happy for Gukesh but also really felt for Fabi and Ian, as some part of me wanted them to be at the top. I completely agree with Fabi's arguments regarding the rating points, as rating should be evaluated on the difference in the strength of players you play rather than the amount of open tournaments you win.
Please Fabi keep believing and working You deserve to be World Champion Okey didn t work this time, but you were the best player by far this last year and I m pretty sure wether it's Gukesh or Ding, if you make it to the match, you will eventually do it You deserve it man we ll keep cheering for you
The only difference between Ding and Gukesh is that, we know where Ding's ceiling lies but Gukesh is in price discovery mode. We don't know where Gukesh's ceiling lies.
Ghukesh played very interesting games throughout, kept his cool, and that was rewarded. He did not worry or calculate like players who already experienced Candidates. Too many calculations off the board (analysing who drew with whom, how to 'tailor' next draw, etc) negatively impact fighting spirit, and ability to spot and use opportunities during the game.
It was the most exciting tournament I've seen. I was almost certain that Caruana would win the last game after a big advantage: After move 24: +2.7 After move 28: +2.9 After move 29: +3.0 After move 32: +3.6 After move 37: +3.9 After move 62: +4.4
Good interview. Can't wait for the World Championship match. Hope to see Ding at his best, but to be realistic, he will likely continue his current trend, and consequently, we will see a new world champion in Gukesh!
So happy you are back! Candidates sucked results-wise, but we all enjoyed it so much and will keep rooting for you always. You are amazing the both of you. Keep up the good work❤
I predicted mid tournament that Ian would not lose a game but not win the candidates. Gukesh played great, even had a winning position against Alireza in the game he lost, he just ran out of time. You and Hikaru played great too, and Pragg was not far off. It was great to watch, all of you put your all in, fantastic games.
@@456death654 He never should have been in the candidates in the first place, the spot was basically given to him by FIDE this year which is shocking considering how poorly he performed the last time.. But I guess it was just due to his popularity that they invited him in the first place
@@KillOnS there are no invitations in the candidates. He got his spot by being the highest rated player who had not already qualified through some other way.
Before even watching, I want to say commiserations, was rooting hard for Fabi throughout... it was a valiant fight back from a point behind with a few rounds to go!
Was a tough tourney for fabi, yet he was still competing for the spot at the end. Just too many missed opportunities left on the table. Had a feeling it would end up a battle between Nepo and gukesh in the end. Gukesh really was the best player at the event this time around. Solid play in every round. He definitely deserves to face ding!
Thanks folks. Especially Fabi . This must've been tough to do. As everything is when we don't achieve our goals. Nothing to say really. Except thanks , again.
I like the idea to use rating for candidate spots. Why not give 4 spots for highest average rating over 1 year. For the other 4 spots invite the next 12 or so contenders to play a round-robin tournament with the first 4 places advancing. So many other sports have very successfully used a play-in stage before big tournaments. If you want to argue that someone #18 in the world by rating (or below) should definitely be in the candidates, good luck with your argument. And if you don't like the historical impact on rating, use rating performance over the last 50 games or so.
One way to understand what Ding is going thru right now or his psyche is reading about Tyson Fury and watching his interviews after his comeback. After becoming a heavy weight champion, which he was working all his life to achieve, he was completely lost, to the point he was suicidal, he lost purpose. He needed some sort of intervention and new goals to reach, and started getting back in shape. But he was mentally in a very dark space. I'm not saying Ding is also going thru something exactly like this. But once a life long goal or something extra ordinary happens, for which people work all their life, they suddenly lose purpose or motivation. I hope Ding rebounds also. Wish him the best. Keeping this in mind, I watched some Gukesh's interview, after winning the candidates, and he stated his goal as becoming the best chess player in the world, not winning the upcoming chess champion ship match. ala Magnus' 2900 goal. IMO with magnus and other rising youngsters on the scene, his goal is still a monumental task for Gukesh and will still be motivated with some purpose no matter what. So a great mindset and coaching on his team's part. Good luck to him too.
First, Congratulations for a very good performance in candidates. Now, "THE JOURNEY CONTINUES". And second, I agree with Fabiano....... Candidates should be selected from rating list, with 6 months/1year avg rating being considered and minimum 50 games or so. The tournaments should be registered with Fide before 3 months of being organised, to avoid players organising last moment tournament. if they do so then the rating gains in that particular tournament should not be considered while considering candidates selection.
Really interesting to hear Fabi's views here. One thing though that I'm increasingly finding hard to understand is the concept that if it went to tie-breaks then Fabi or Nepo would be "favourites". Only in the sense of Elo rating though, which was built up in the past. The fact is though, at the point of tie-breaks we've just had 14 rounds between the eight candidates. Unless you've been comprehensively beaten by your tie-break opponent, within those 14 rounds, there is no favourite.
Fabi fan here, speaking from a ton of respect... but, I would like to see you guys discussing in depth what Fabi can do to improve his game even more. Is it just a matter of "luck" to win the candidates again?
I've not played a game since watching the final round as I still feel sick for you Fabi. I came second three times in a row (twice by a single shot) in my golf club championship, but I won it on the fourth try. You can do it!!!
Here also the probabilities (chances) of the key players moving on to tiebreaks (or winning straight), after rounds: after round: 10 11 12 13 Ian 37.28% 58.03% 40.74% 22.22% Hikaru 19.36% 31.81% 43.21% 33.33% Fabiano 19.60% 12.18% 14.40% 22.22% Gukesh 36.11% 27.87% 40.74% 66.67%
It's already been more than half a decade, and I have always been rooting for you in every game and every tournament you play Fabi.
@@Fabiispedo wtf r u saying
❤❤❤
To be a fan of both Fabiano, and Nepo, made the last round incredibly exciting. Draw was an absolutely heartbreaking result for both, but as a fan, this was the best tournament I've ever seen. Thank you for your efforts
I don't know what being a fan of Nepo means, he plays uninspiring chess and most likeliest outcome of his games is a draw.
@@notsoeloquentWait until you learn that the most likely outcome for any 2700+ player is BY FAR a draw 😱😨
@@notsoeloquent except for the last two candidates where he won the most games of anyone.
@@notsoeloquentcrazy how literally 70% of the games are draws in every tournament. Also, have you ever seen a Nepo game? He plays very exciting chess, maybe not like Firouzja does for example but no one plays as creative/aggressive as Firouzja or Rapport or Dubov you know.
@@gus8696please don’t compare Nepo with Dubov, Rapport and Alireza. Nepo in every other tournament except Candidates plays conventional chess (not dull). The reason is when you 2750+ people expect you to be inventive. Players like Nodirbek or Parham or Keymer or Vidit (recently) have gained audience because they play different lines. Offcourse no one can be as crazy as Alireza, Rapport or Dubov in a good way but still.
We love you Fabi! You’ll be back
He will never be back. A champion is always learning. He learns neither from his failure nor from his success.
@@rathinaveluthiruvenkatam6203Calm down dude ! you’re being so rude
@@rathinaveluthiruvenkatam6203your statement is kind of like an oxymoron a paradox of sorts
Fabi is so smart and thoughtful .. it is amazing to hear him talk
He is a thoughtful speaker articulate
Fabi has the most soothing manner and voice. He should be my psychologist.
He needs a psychologist.
He is to busy making good moves and planning revenge on gukesh.
Too bad
@@christofferore6285I doubt he even looks at the situation like that for him it’s probably ok what comes next and take it from there
@@michaelmassaro4375 I think he will go for the wc next time untill he gets it or gets too old. He is always working hard and gukesh might win against ding and then caruana defently wants revenge. Mby he dont see it that way but he still would want to be WC and gukesh is one of his rivals just as everyone else. Only Magnus says he has no rivals and its almost true
We still love you as much as ever Fabi! Felt your heartbreak, but are your fans still.
Where did you get this from?
@@Fabiispedo Never heard of this before, do you have any source to this, or are you just throwing blatant accusations for the sake of it? Edit: Saw the reddit post, I think it serves no one well to speculate in the comments, hence why they keep getting deleted.
Never mind the slander, Fabi is still dee best
@@illinnear7233it seems his comment was deleted I’ve seen several responding to him but his comment is gone
Hi Fabi, I just wanted to say you were the reason I got into chess. More than the magic you have produced on the board, it was the way you conducted yourself outside those 64 squares that resonated with me deeply. The manner in which you handle pressure and disappointment with the same poise and respect you would show in a victory is inspiring. I hope you continue to inspire and raise the bar for what it takes to be a professional , and hope you bounce back stronger at the next candidates, rooting for you all the way! Cheers from India
Same here
What a great English!
Thanks, Fabi, I imagine it is tough to go thorugh this again, but we your fans sure appreciate it
Cristian Chirila is such a great coach, shows compassion and empathize with his trainee
Thank y'all for this, I've been a fan for quite a while and deeply appreciate everything you guys do.
Fabi and Christian completely won me over, starting with the Champions Tour in Toronto not long ago. I've been a huge fan ever since and the constant good naturedness of both players, as wellas their openness has been really enjoyable. What a heartbreaking draw but Nepo deserves an incrdible amount of respect for his poise and resiliance.
I was waiting for this episode 👏
01:24:54 Arjun is my guy 😅🤍, in their old podcast videos about Indian prodigies, he ranked Arjun top of the list and he still is his fav.
Must’ve been tough watching Nordibek win the Tepe Sigeman tournament
Thanks for opening up! I m always rooting for both, Fabi and Nepo (and I really enjoyed watching the last game!!)... Thanks Fabi for staying a legend and wish you a quick recovery!!
Fabi - you are a gem of the chess world. Exceptionally balanced in your analysis and conclusions coming from such deep care. You are a great player, will be a great administrator, coach and absolutely wonderful human being.
Such a cool conversation. It feels like this would be hard to talk about but hopefully it can be cathartic for you. Thank you for doing this for chess fans, the insight is incredible
Wow, two hours of great content awaits us! Looking forward to it. Fabi - it’s been a pleasure watching your games in the Candidates, I’m sure you will be able to come back in the upcoming cycles. Cheers!
Enjoyed your recent interview with Danya, Greg!
@@gautam-narula Thanks! I have one with Fabi as well, but you probably have seen it already
I like about your guys that you don’t rush making content right after. Giving yourself time to reflect or to rest
still so sad for Fabi, you can tell how much it means to him and he is such an exciting player to watch. I hope he comes back to win in 2 years time. Many thanks for the insights too, amazing to listen to
Fabi is my fave super GM. He seems like the most calm super GM and explains things very well
He is very articulate I think his goal is to be World Champion and Best player in world otherwise he’d probably make a great career as a You Tuber with his own program
@@michaelmassaro4375I feel Fabi is probably the only person who if he became world champion it could be argued that it could have happened even if Magnus was still around if Fabi was playing his best
Alireza 's style reminds me of Vassily Ivanchuk, with the same brilliance and with the same unexplicable crashes.
💯 definitely he is next Ivan Chuck.
@@Rareme530 Chucky was passionate tho . Loved and worked hard on chess. ALireza look like he doesn't care and its a side job or a hobby for him.
@sushinfudoshin8991 for me alireza looked like topalov .. both of them have lots of fighting spirit.
@@rambo2667I’m sure he’s put work in to be as good as he is didn’t have a good candidates but he’s young yet and has already accomplished a lot
Although styles are similar Alireza is an overall better player that can play all type of positions and is a universal player
The discussion about closed vs open tournaments is very interesting. I agree with Fabi that people mostly use this as un excuse to justify poor performance or criticize players they don't like. That being said, the Elo system only gives meaningful ratings if there is a single pool of players. If there are multiple pools, as in if there are a top x number of players who only play each other and never play anyone else, then their ratings demonstrate their strength relative to each other and not the general population. An extreme example of this was Claude Bloodgood, who achieved an extremely high rating by organizing his own closed pool of participants.
Agreed. Also to do differential analysis, the FIDE circuit qualification is one spot. So, instead of lets say the fourth place from a world cup qualifying, you have this. A player performing consistently well in Open tournaments qualifies. Nothing changes.
Is Bloodgood the guy who got to like 26 or 2700 in prison?
My fault😢
What a way to open the episode
Amazing episode, guys! My heart broke for Fabi in the last game. Lots of love and support!
Fabi is the most interessting sportsman to listen, period. It is almost spiritual...
Thanks for the pod, Cristian and Fabi!
def love this show, its an important episode in the chess world if you like to keep up
You are our inspiration fabi! Continue being the machine that you are!
❤ Fabi! My heart broke for you with the outcome of the last game, and I know it's little consolation, but what an amazing game to watch!
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Was awaiting this episode for quite some time. Fascinating thoughts from Fabi!
Great summary, straight forward to the points, thank you masters!
Even though I was pleased to see Gukesh win, it was bittersweet because of Fabi's loss. It is very easy to root for Fabi as he seems to be a true gentleman of the game and conducts himself well all while being incredibly strong. Hope to see you in the next match.
Huh? @@notyourbusiness4011
@@notyourbusiness4011 what are u saying ?
@@notyourbusiness4011how do you know that?
@@notyourbusiness4011 fabi dated 17 yr old ??
How you know that
17 yr still fine though she isn't 14 so it's fine 😂😂
@@notyourbusiness4011the only thing I found that too on reddit was a Twitter dm screenshot that looks like a girl has sent to another girl. Only there is sth concrete we should not accuse. I learnt that from many cases that happened in my country and one happened with a very famous cricketer by his wife and in another highlighted case an innocent yojng boy had to spend 4 yrs fighting his case whereas even after case was proved to be false girl escaped easily by moving to Canada. There are many other such cases
As it happens often Fabi has a very rational approach. Yes you can game the ElO system, you cna enter invitation tournaments and play for draws until you reach some level, or you can go and play against a bunch of weak players, but both strategies will help you so far. By nature, it will lead to a ceiling. Anything we know of can be tampered with. Even so it seems that by far Fabi's proposal is the best we have. Perfect is the enemy of good, and keeping the awful way because the other good proposals are not perfect is nonsense.
Hi Fabi, I was never the biggest chess fan in the world, but do like to keep up with what is going on in the big tournaments - particularly the world championship. Doing so in 2021 and listening to your commentary is what made me take a greater interest in the game and your career in particular.
Irrespective of what you achieve going forward in the game (and I believe the sky is still your limit), I just want to say that the way you carry yourself is inspirational. You always present as a calm, approachable and consummate professional, and I find myself thinking of things I have heard from you through my day to day.
Since becoming a fan of yours, I have befallen some hard times in my life, but looking at the example and attitude set by you (and Alexander Volkanovski) in the face of hardship has helped me process my difficulties and move forward in a productive way every time. Thank you so much Fabiano, you are a great man
Here a probability analysis of the key players for winning the event after the few remaining rounds:
after round: 10 11 12 13
Ian: 28.59% 47.28% 30.04% 11.11%
Hikaru: 13.53% 23.63% 32.65% 22.22%
Fabiano: 13.82% 7.48% 8.37% 11.11%
Gukesh: 27.09% 19.53% 28.94% 55.56%
The analysis includes all cases with tie breaks, and assumes equal chances of winning the tie breaks for those moving on into tie breaks.
great insights! really appreciate this!
I watched the game live. I screamed at the screen, threw pillows, and felt the miss. I can't even imagine how you felt Fabiano. Really I don't have the temperament. I would have to go to the gym and burn my frustrations.
Same here((
Yeah, it was such a pain
Fabi I am sure thst was heart breaking for you in ways normal people can't comprehend, but I just want to say that so many people out there appreciate your fightijg spirit so much and that we're proud of you
Thank you both, Fabi and Cristian, for such an amazing podcast, as usual!!
Imagine when Fabiano and Nepo realize it’s a draw they start making blunders on purpose like “You deserve it more than me”. Could be an Oscar winning drama
They would both get banned that way
Ding could play to force tiebreaks because I think he is a bigger favorite in Rapid and even bigger in blitz
Magnus and Vishy were pretty conservative in their defences. ig Gukesh and Ding are too agressive for tiebreaks.
Fabi is unarguably one of the best to every play the game but to top that has the best attitude in spite being the player he is.
I discovered I was rooting for Fabiano by the end of the tourney. I had no clear favorite, but I was gutted at the end. Come back stronger than ever, Fabi!
The whole chess world is rooting for you get them next candidates
Him and hikarus clocks are ticking. The youngsters are only getting stronger as the veterans have already peaked. Their chances are dwindling. Hikarus best opportunity was this year. Fabi still has a chance. But if these guys are getting schooled by guys half their age, the odds only get tougher.
@@Wargasm54 They aren't getting schooled tho. This was incredibly close and there are so many incredibly different ways this turns out. There really isn't a chess playter that is dominating. Gukesh played the best but it's hard to call him head and shoulders above everyone
@@luciddoggo5094 Gukesh schooled them with his composure.
Was waiting for this, I'm your big fan from norway fabi
hi cagnuss
I have rooted for fabi against carlsen in 2018 and would like to see fabi world champion
So sad for Fabi and Hikaru. They both need a world championship to become legends. They are already historical greats
Good players, but not great until they are world champions.
Caruana had his chances to tie for first. He failed to capitalise on his chances.
@@XoPlanetI caruanna is great and close to legend status
@@XoPlanetII don’t think that’s necessarily true if there were a hall of fame for Chess players Fabi and Hikaru are shoo ins the candidates and ensuing World Championship even Magnus feels the status it gives is overrated and doesn’t automatically make the Champion the Best player in world
@@michaelmassaro4375 hikaru will be remembered as a famous streamer maybe or will be recognized for his pre moves and bullet skills , but why tf will someone remember fabiano? i am not judging him based on skills , he will always be the #2 chess player of this era but with no classical title ................... even now people remembers legends like karpov , kasparov , fisher , vishy etc but thats it some may remember alekhine , tal for the name in the opening or brilliant games but no one remembers player like caruana
Please make full a podcast on your opinion and a guest's opinion (if possible)on qualifying paths to the candidates now and what it should be.❤
I found the candidates incredibly exciting. Everyone was taking chances rather than lifeless draws. I am very happy for Gukesh but also really felt for Fabi and Ian, as some part of me wanted them to be at the top. I completely agree with Fabi's arguments regarding the rating points, as rating should be evaluated on the difference in the strength of players you play rather than the amount of open tournaments you win.
48:00 let me scratch my eyebrow
48:02 yeah let me scratch my eyebrow too!
Great observation lol ,
Please Fabi keep believing and working
You deserve to be World Champion
Okey didn t work this time, but you were the best player by far this last year and I m pretty sure wether it's Gukesh or Ding, if you make it to the match, you will eventually do it
You deserve it man we ll keep cheering for you
Thanks Fabi for your insights. Is a very interesting video.
Whenever Fabi speaks only gold comes out from his mouth. Fabi will be an excellent coach
Great insights! Thank you for the awesome content and the best wishes.
The only difference between Ding and Gukesh is that, we know where Ding's ceiling lies but Gukesh is in price discovery mode. We don't know where Gukesh's ceiling lies.
Caruana isn't just a Super GM, but a chess connoisseur: he's so good that he can appreciate good play, without gritted teeth.
you're a boss Fabi. chin up, you'll get it next time :)
Ghukesh played very interesting games throughout, kept his cool, and that was rewarded. He did not worry or calculate like players who already experienced Candidates. Too many calculations off the board (analysing who drew with whom, how to 'tailor' next draw, etc) negatively impact fighting spirit, and ability to spot and use opportunities during the game.
Vidit starts at 44:30
no timestamp for him yet
still rooting for fabi to get the #1 rating spot soon
Good one. Good luck for future tournaments Fabi 👍.
I’m glad they touched on Erigaisi and Abusotarov in this podcast
Time?
Fabi is a class act
It was the most exciting tournament I've seen. I was almost certain that Caruana would win the last game after a big advantage:
After move 24: +2.7
After move 28: +2.9
After move 29: +3.0
After move 32: +3.6
After move 37: +3.9
After move 62: +4.4
Great recap! Thanks for all the inside perspective.
Fabi will be among one of the best in future for sure
Good interview. Can't wait for the World Championship match. Hope to see Ding at his best, but to be realistic, he will likely continue his current trend, and consequently, we will see a new world champion in Gukesh!
So happy you are back! Candidates sucked results-wise, but we all enjoyed it so much and will keep rooting for you always. You are amazing the both of you. Keep up the good work❤
We love you Fabi! Never give up
I predicted mid tournament that Ian would not lose a game but not win the candidates. Gukesh played great, even had a winning position against Alireza in the game he lost, he just ran out of time. You and Hikaru played great too, and Pragg was not far off. It was great to watch, all of you put your all in, fantastic games.
alireza had even less time
Surprised Alireza won, he normally just feeds his opponents
@@456death654 He never should have been in the candidates in the first place, the spot was basically given to him by FIDE this year which is shocking considering how poorly he performed the last time.. But I guess it was just due to his popularity that they invited him in the first place
@@KillOnS there are no invitations in the candidates. He got his spot by being the highest rated player who had not already qualified through some other way.
@@nilsdula7693 I know, I was talking about the unjust way that he was allowed to get those points at the very last momen to overtake Wesley
I can listen to fabi 24x7 ❤❤
Really nice of Fabi to do this. This is a must watch.
Fantastic breakdown! I wish you the best Fabi.
Before even watching, I want to say commiserations, was rooting hard for Fabi throughout... it was a valiant fight back from a point behind with a few rounds to go!
Was a tough tourney for fabi, yet he was still competing for the spot at the end. Just too many missed opportunities left on the table. Had a feeling it would end up a battle between Nepo and gukesh in the end.
Gukesh really was the best player at the event this time around. Solid play in every round. He definitely deserves to face ding!
He didn’t beat anyone in the top 4
@@spcarroll85 Cry more.
@@spcarroll85they didn't beat him either 😂 🤡 👍
To be this open with everyone after the Candidates speaks very favorably about you, Fabi. You are a great chess ambassador. More power to you.
I really enjoyed watching the candidates tournament. Thank you for providing this fascinating insight and for being so generous with your time.
Great video. Thanks to both
Aww he still looks sad about it. Hope you can pick yourself up soon, no doubt you’ll be back at the next candidates!
Thanks folks. Especially Fabi . This must've been tough to do. As everything is when we don't achieve our goals. Nothing to say really. Except thanks , again.
I like the idea to use rating for candidate spots. Why not give 4 spots for highest average rating over 1 year. For the other 4 spots invite the next 12 or so contenders to play a round-robin tournament with the first 4 places advancing. So many other sports have very successfully used a play-in stage before big tournaments. If you want to argue that someone #18 in the world by rating (or below) should definitely be in the candidates, good luck with your argument. And if you don't like the historical impact on rating, use rating performance over the last 50 games or so.
I like watching your games. Keep fighting Fabi. You are an inspiration to many.
Keep it up guys. Best chess podcast/objective news source when it comes to chess. Aim for atleast 1 episode per week.
One way to understand what Ding is going thru right now or his psyche is reading about Tyson Fury and watching his interviews after his comeback. After becoming a heavy weight champion, which he was working all his life to achieve, he was completely lost, to the point he was suicidal, he lost purpose. He needed some sort of intervention and new goals to reach, and started getting back in shape. But he was mentally in a very dark space.
I'm not saying Ding is also going thru something exactly like this. But once a life long goal or something extra ordinary happens, for which people work all their life, they suddenly lose purpose or motivation. I hope Ding rebounds also. Wish him the best.
Keeping this in mind, I watched some Gukesh's interview, after winning the candidates, and he stated his goal as becoming the best chess player in the world, not winning the upcoming chess champion ship match. ala Magnus' 2900 goal. IMO with magnus and other rising youngsters on the scene, his goal is still a monumental task for Gukesh and will still be motivated with some purpose no matter what. So a great mindset and coaching on his team's part. Good luck to him too.
Fabi is still crushed. Didn't look very happy doing this episode.
First, Congratulations for a very good performance in candidates.
Now, "THE JOURNEY CONTINUES".
And second,
I agree with Fabiano.......
Candidates should be selected from rating list, with 6 months/1year avg rating being considered and minimum 50 games or so.
The tournaments should be registered with Fide before 3 months of being organised, to avoid players organising last moment tournament.
if they do so then the rating gains in that particular tournament should not be considered while considering candidates selection.
This is one of the best podcasts
It was a valid rant...
I haven't watched this but v glad to have fabi and the c squared pod back... ngl was a bit concerned for fabi!
Thanks!
You the GOAT Fabi.
Fabi suddenly sounds like Sadguru while talking of Hikaru. He's all about being in the moment 😂
Really interesting to hear Fabi's views here. One thing though that I'm increasingly finding hard to understand is the concept that if it went to tie-breaks then Fabi or Nepo would be "favourites". Only in the sense of Elo rating though, which was built up in the past. The fact is though, at the point of tie-breaks we've just had 14 rounds between the eight candidates. Unless you've been comprehensively beaten by your tie-break opponent, within those 14 rounds, there is no favourite.
44:29 Vidit
thank you for all the inserts of the boards/positions. This helps so much!
Love you guys! Thanks for the amazing two hours!
Wake up babe, a new C-squared pod just dropped
Fabi fan here, speaking from a ton of respect... but, I would like to see you guys discussing in depth what Fabi can do to improve his game even more. Is it just a matter of "luck" to win the candidates again?
I've not played a game since watching the final round as I still feel sick for you Fabi. I came second three times in a row (twice by a single shot) in my golf club championship, but I won it on the fourth try. You can do it!!!
Here also the probabilities (chances) of the key players moving on to tiebreaks (or winning straight), after rounds:
after round: 10 11 12 13
Ian 37.28% 58.03% 40.74% 22.22%
Hikaru 19.36% 31.81% 43.21% 33.33%
Fabiano 19.60% 12.18% 14.40% 22.22%
Gukesh 36.11% 27.87% 40.74% 66.67%