@@Gringo-Billy No things don't change. I have never changed and never will. The Pac 8/10 will be reborn as it was in less than 15 years. NIL will also be gone. College sports will be back in the 1960s.
@@barryfinkle1755 And college football will be made great again with laws being passed outlawing NIL and making every university go back to the conference where they came from. Conferences will be capped at 10 teams maximum and required to be regional.
@@stanfordite1 NIL is around because the government said you can get paid for your name, image and likeness. The opposite of what you think is happening, Is actually happening. That's why the SEC and B1G are pulling away. To become an organized minor league football.
It’s quite poetic for me that the last two programs on the Pac 12 Network National feed were Pac 12 Classics on the USC-Oregon State game from 2006 and the Washington-Washington State game from 1992. Two games where the two teams that now comprise the Pac 2 won.
Almost as if whoever was in charge of programming wanted to give everyone involved in the Pac-12's demise, but especially the surviving conferences, the middle finger on the way out by showing historic wins of the two schools they aren't getting.
It was predetermined gobbledygook. You're probably one of those weirdos who thought Bill Walton died before the final pac 12 event was also poetic. Good luck to Wazoo and the Beav as they climb the Mountain West.
ESPN will always be number one of this bullshit tragedy. Texas and Oklahoma are in second place of the domino effect followed by the negligence of the pac-12 owners who are so incompetent with their keep-ups of the conference too.
im a huge ND fan but i loved the pac 12 after dark football games. being on the east coast with the time differential, any 8pm game started at 11pm. so there was literally college football on from 12 in the afternoon til midnight into the next day. i loved it and will miss it.
Worked there for eleven years including being on the crew for the very last live broadcast (Pac-12 baseball semifinal). So many names in that credits roll call Im gonna miss working with daily. While the conference itself and the media rights situation was constantly tenuous, I loved working there with an amazing crew as we put out some incredible content and live broadcasts with production values that it made it look like we had twice the staff we actually had to pull everything off every day. While a lot of us have gone our separate ways since May, including myself, I'll always cherish the opportunities the network provided me in the present and future, and the variety of cool things I got to do there, from stats and score bug, to video packages for games. It was an incredible time working there. Thanks for uploading this!
@@david-468 I was a freelancer so I got paid for each live job. Not sure about what returns the actual network received in the rerun month, but the studio and a good portion of employees will remain there for further operation next season for Oregon State and Washington State broadcasts.
I'm not a fan of any Pac-12 team but for some reason, this makes me sad. I guess, as a fan of college football, I'm just having a hard time adjusting to the massive changes going on in my favorite pastime (NIL, Transfer portal, conference realignment). The west coast needed a strong major conference but it seems like mismanagement at the top level of the conference doomed it. How ridiculous is it to have Stanford and Cal being in the ACC?
Tradition is what gets missed the most. The slow beginning of these messed up conferences happened when the Big East folded (I still miss seeing that conference in college football) and now geography went from being thrown out the window (Missouri and Texas A&M when they joined the SEC and West Virginia in the Big 12) to thrown out of the planet with these teams being all over the place now.
Thanks for posting. I'm glad they ended with credits and I think it's good the last two shows that aired were about Oregon State and Washington State. Also glad you put this up, because my DVR couldn't record it since my Dish Network signal was out. How symbolic, because one of the only reasons I kept Dish was because of the Pac-12 Network.. going all the way back to August of 2012, because I remember watching that intro that's show in this vid of the channel launch. I know Larry Scott gets a lot of blame (and probably deserved), BUT remember something.. the school presidents could've fired that guy at any moment of his tenure. All it would've taken was a vote. They never did. Says more about the school leaders than Scott.
Badger fan here. This is idiotic greed needs to stop. Wisconsin will be nothing more than a midpack team now. And all this cross-country travel in the name of sports is stupid. I have yet to decide if I’m going to stick around and support this crap, or look for an FCS team to support.
Congress will be putting a stop to it and legally reorganize the conferences back to what they were in the 20th century and that also means welcome back SWC and Big 8 conferences. Conferences will be capped at 10 teams maximum.
@@mitchwinder1204 Oh, FCS programs have their own set of problems. I'm a graduate of Holy Cross. They've been very successful over the last few years, but with NIL, they and a lot of other top tier programs will lose their players to major programs because the $$ is so much better (hurts too that HC lost their coach to James Madison). But the transfer portal is just going to gut top FCS talent each year.
The Pac-12 networks had great production quality and made a lot of enjoyable watches. I hope all those who worked there find new employment elsewhere in due course.
Worked there for 11 years, thankfully, the industry is something where you'll come across the same people again down the road elsewhere, so while it was goodbye to some, I'm happy it's only see you later for others going forward Appreciate the comment about our work, I loved that we took so much pride in it even when our days were numbered. The mantra was just "business as usual" and just continued to work as hard as we could.
you did a great job, everything from top to bottom was always quality. Sorry it went this way, but your outlook on the situation is everything and says ton of your character. @@DSMTheEditor
i’m an Oklahoma fan, and i feel partially responsible for this. makes me sick to think one decision snowballed into a whole conference being dissolved. i’m gonna miss the PAC 12 😕
I think before the original 10 sec members had a strong argument . But the more recent additions are especially the Texas schools and Oklahoma are really drab and serious looking
My favorite college team is Florida but I liked watching Pac-12 football, such a shame that the conference is going to be gone now. That song at the end credits (starting at 4:24) is really good although I’ve looked it up and can’t find it anywhere. Edit: I had to do quite a bit of digging to find that song but it’s called Stories Of Our Lives by Edward Wohl, Daniel Braunstein, and Olivia May.
I'm an East Coast guy and other than my school (Temple), I'm not a huge fan of college sports. And what is happening to the Pac-12 is a big reason why. It just goes to show - if football ain't happy, everyone and everything else suffers.
I'm an alum of a school that's just recently come up to FBS in the Sun Belt (James Madison) and while I don't have much love for most Power 5 (er, 4) conferences and programs due to the way they've acted over the years, I still think it's sad to see the Pac 12 go away. I don't even recognize college athletics hardly any more. The ACC I grew up watching as a kid in the '70s in Virginia is now the "All Coast Conference" instead of being all about VA/NC/SC/GA like it was. No SWC. No Big Eight. Rivalries getting disrupted (no more Bedlam, seriously?). I'm fortunate that I can root for a team in a G5 conference that makes at least some geographic sense but still, with realignment and NIL and all the rest...those days are gone forever. And it's sad.
I’m a Florida fan but looking back it was really the fall of the Big East which has slowly led to this with teams moving places that made no sense from a geographical standpoint but of course now things have been running rampant lately. For the first patch of realignments Maryland and Rutgers in the Big 10, West Virginia in the Big 12, then Texas A&M and Missouri in the SEC already made no sense as it was. Now West Coast teams in a Midwestern conference, a couple of them in a central US conference, and a couple of teams now in a conference involving the East Coast? Greed is killing tradition everywhere and it’s really sad to see while none of us really have much of an input on it either. With these super conferences now, it’s a good thing the playoff system got expanded at least to 12 teams for now but will be at 14 for 2026 but even that may not be enough for long if this keeps up. Next thing you know it’ll be a West Coast and East Coast based super conference alone while teams in the middle of the country will be fighting for scraps to see which of those conferences will take them in.
It’s genuinely messed up with all these conference realignments. The big east, the pac12, the big 12 and the acc are on the verge of collapse, and the big 10 and SEC have become way too big and powerful. Something has to change
I feel bad for the fans of sports other than basketball and baseball, no matter how small those sports may be. Like all jokes aside, I genuinely feel bad for the, say, field hockey fans whose favorite rivalries are getting destroyed by greed over that one sport where people try to tackle each other while carrying weirdly-shaped balls.
Loved the Pac 12 since it was the Pac 8, and I was a boy. It is heartbreaking to see it dissolved over greed. Makes me sad and more than just a bit bitter.
As a Tennessee fan, it's sad to see that the greed of ESPN, Fox Sports, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington killed the PAC 12. College sports really isn't the same as it used to, and this feels like the death of that old college sports.
And all those schools will be forced back to the Pac by the government and the University presidents will be screaming how conferences are being turned into gulags. ESPN will be broken off from Disney under antitrust.
@Gringo-Billy What Special Powers do you possess to tell people what they ACTUALLY feel??? None. Since I KNOW you live on Planet Earth 🌏, you are NOTHING but a Human like the rest. I'm upset about what has been lost.....you wanna tell me that my 45 yrz of being a Black Man living on this planet, that my feelings are incorrect??????
@@johndough-jr6od Screw the Mid 10 if you're a northerner who doesn't know actual good football 😂💀 I know you're upset buddy but blame ESPN for the downfall of the pac-12 lmao
@@johndough-jr6od I sure do want to tell you that I don't even like how we departed from cbs and had to be forced to sell our souls to a dying woke sports network like espn because they want more money.
The best Pac12 moment I have ever witnessed was back November of 2007. I got to experience my first college football game in Arizona, it was #2 Oregon @ Arizona. I didn’t know much about college football till my grandfather told me about it and how he prefers it over the NFL. I can see why cause that day AZ upset Oregon, then having to see the crowd climb over the stands and run to the field was amazing. That was when I enjoyed the sport more. Since I’m from AZ, I got to see some of the best Pac12 games on TV. The conference really made it more entertaining to watch college football in general. It’s a shame it had to depart like that. Really thought it was gonna stick around for a while. But I guess all things must come to an end. Here’s hoping Arizona can somehow pull off a positive season in the Big 12 😂
SEC fan here - we should all be ashamed of ourselves for letting this happen. Fans from every conference should fight to move it back. Hopefully after a few years it could.
@@Sad-Panda-86 small schools have just as much blame…. They move into a big boy conference for the money, but continue to put a trash product on the field making conferences even weaker. They also don’t bring in enough money and should be forced to stay at the FCS level. There needs to be a rule in college football, that if a team doesn’t bring in 50 million you go to FCS. Before idiots start freaking out I’m not talking about profit, I’m talking about revenue generated over the course of a 12 month period. This alone would have saved the PAC 12 as NCAA wouldn’t have to prop up these suck ass small schools/conferences. That money could have gone to keep the 12 in order.
@@Sad-Panda-86 You literally think the SEC commissioner went and asked the fans if they wanted this to happen? He knew that they would say no. Commissioners value money above anything else, so don't take it out on SEC fans.
Hard to believe. I am a Michigan fan, and I always enjoyed the PAC 8/10/12 vs Big 10 games, most notably in The Rose Bowl. But, this is what 21st century college football (CF) looks like and it is sad. It seems like, in the last 10 years or so, we've seen CF transform into another professional league, consequences be damned.
I have grown up being a big 10 boy, and I always loved the notion of playing those west coast guys in the rose bowl at the end of the sunny rose bowl parade after a long year of triumph in the first day of a glorious new year. It’s really sad they’re no more - from their rival in the heartland.
As an Alabama fan and admiring Boise State growing up, I have always respected teams in every sport that comes out of the Pac-12. Times are changing in college athletics by the moment in both ways, and we have no option but to move forward. Farewell Pac 12, it's been good!!
Well at least we won't have to get pissed off they are airing _"Top 25 PAC-12 football players of all time"_ for the 3,741st time, instead of airing an game that was actually live or something... This network was a complete failure.
I’ll say this as a die hard sec fan with deep ties to vandy, grew up in Kentucky, and went to lsu. I hated the pac 12 but my god those games were so entertaining and what happened to the conference is a sign of the horrors that are coming in the future of college sports
Olivia May does the vocals but Edward Wohl and Daniel Braunstein also wrote the song which is called Stories Of Our Lives. It’s also available on Apple Music
That’s an odd way to end June 30 with the disbanding of the pac-12 by a channel that is mostly about the weather! Well, it’s now off -and no more! 😮😮😮😮
I wonder if back in 1990, when Oklahoma and Georgia won the anti-trust suit against the NCAA, if they ever thought that 30 years later all of this would happen. I mean almost immediately after the conferences gained control of the TV rights from the NCAA, the Southwest Conference collapsed after 80 years and the sport began consolidating. Now we're down to four super conferences, two elite conferences, and a bunch of smaller leagues who have no chance of competing against the power 4 leagues. Between the death of regional rivalries and the bowl game's mystique, they couldn't possibly have thought that this would either be possible or a good outcome.
I look forward to Congress overturning the antitrust ruling against the NCAA and giving the NCAA totalitarian God level control over TV rights and what universities get to appear on TV.
the SWC had a horrible mismanagement problem too, of course with things that would be perfectly legal today. The only death penalty ever issued by the NCAA for football was for an SWC school (SMU) I think the idea of conferences might be a thing of the past in the future. And the way the sport is going, it might be the end of many things. Almost all, if not all, bowl games for example. As I see, the way I grew up (not from the US), I think it might be best that we have, to restore rivalries, a division based in the main regions of the geographical US. Like, I don't know, northeast, cascadia, pacific coast, midwest, south, north, rocky mountains... I don't know. Do this, playoffs for all regional champions. Or even say to hell with it, each school keeps a rivalry in state and another against an out-of state team (ideally). We have 129 teams, even the field at 130, make it 13 randomly drawn groups of 10 and you play 11 games. 9 in your group, two against each rival. If one or both your predefined rivals are in your group, you can schedule another historical rivalry for the open dates. Or something along those lines of undefined schedules and group draws. Same thing, playoffs for all group winners to define the national champion. We know that a team will not face all it's peers and, for me, there is another factor: the NCAA not having a formula to define a national champion. This is a more recent problem, but it exists. What might really happen though is what I heard Rich Eisen saying once, the SEC and Big 10 schools breaking up with the NCAA and establishing their own thing.
@@otaviofrnazario None of that is going to happen. The SWC and Big 8 will be reformed and college football will go back to the 1950s. There will be all regional conferences reformed again and the NCAA will have control of TV again which means some schools will not be seen on TV outside traditional rivalries or bowl games. There will also be no more playoffs and champions will be decided by polls again. Like what's going to happen? A mass exodus of players who will say "what's the point of playing the game if there's no national championship game on the field?"
Reading these comments, listening to people wax poetically about the Pac-12, you forget that the conference killed themselves. I will have fond memories of all the Big Ten vs Pac-10/12 Rose Bowls. I attended several myself, but the problems started LONG before even Larry Scott was hired. Bad TV deals and time slots, relegation to late night TV that most of the country didn’t watch, and disparate payouts were leaving the Pac-10 behind the other major conferences. If the conference had any muscle, they would have asked east coast teams to split the difference,l and start their lower tier matchups earlier than 9:30 Pacific, so that lower tier west coast matchups weren't kicking off after 11:00 Eastern. Instead, they blamed the problem on a lack of a conference championship game. They felt they HAD to add two schools, so that they would be eligible to have a Pac-12 title game. (Funny how only a few years later, the Big-12 was able to ask, "can we change the rules, so that we can have a title game, even though we only have like 8 schools, and the rest of the NCAA agreed. Why didn't the Pac-10 think to do that?) Instead they went after 2 schools that were a bad culture fit, diluted the payout without substantial revenue increase, and again negotiated from a position of weakness. Without knowing how this conference's bread was buttered -- mostly Los Angeles eyeballs -- the new schools insisted on an equal payout per team, fomenting resentment in the conference big dogs that were bringing home the bacon. Doubling down on its own stupidity, the woke Pac-12 tried to downplay the importance of football and elevate Olympic sports to the same level, resulting in an independently-run, overpriced collection of networks that DirecTV wouldn't offer to their subscribers vis-a-vis the ESPN-run SEC network or the Fox-run Big Ten network that DirecTV was forced to offer. They focused mostly on football, because the economic reality is that football and to a lesser degree men's basketball are the sports that drive college sports revenue. As the payout disparities mounted and schools like USC and UCLA saw they needed to jump ship in order to "keep up with the Jones" amd have any hope of relevancy in the modern age, why should anyone be suprised by the outcome?
With only 2 teams in the pac 12 conference, I am NOT surprised that the networks are gonna shut down *9.12.24 Update* RELAUNCH THE NETWORKS IN 2026! I JUST HEARD THAT THEYRE COMING BACK WITH 6 TEAMS *10.4.24 Update* CORRECTION: 7 teams
It was cool that it was captured. I do which the channel creator replied to some comments however. I normally make it a policy to not comment on videos where I believe the creator is not reading comments.
What happened to the PAC-12 was a disgrace to sports in general, and it all has to do with college football. I see the ACC headed down the same path as the PAC-12. Nothing like a UCLA/Rutgers match-up or a Cal/Va. Tech match-up in basketball during the middle of the week.
Sometimes I wonder if the Pac woulda made it if they said "forget the networks" and went all-in on streaming media. I know that market saturation is high enough for streaming media but in the college sports world the Pac-12 would've been far ahead of the curve if they did an NFL-plus-esque streaming service, complete with game archives and exclusive content. Hell, they might've been able to make live games free-view and just have the extras be a small charge.
Nope, what would have made it easier for them was to somehow make themselves as appealing to the powers that be as a team in the Midwest or the Old Confederacy (read: more monetizable).
Streaming is going to be banned as a medium and the Pac will be re-organized by the government. The NCAA will once again control every aspect of college football on TV.
Because of poor management, The PAC-12 killed itself. Even if they brought in Texas and Oklahoma back in 2010-2012 those schools would have left because those schools' culture doesn't fit. I'm a SEC guy (Gator Fan) and they did it right. Unless something major happens, the schools in this conference won't go anywhere because they are a cultural fit. My only disagreement about the Southeastern conference is the exit fee. Around COVID they instituted a buyout fee. I think the conference should have one. You wanna leave, then go...
I'm a SEC fan but the PAC 12 had great football on Saturdays, WHAT A NATIONAL DISGRACE that the ex commissioner destroyed the conference single handedly
Pac 12 really died because of incompetent suits who didn't take advantage of the rising tides and shifts of college sports. The whole Pac 12 and them trying to get that Apple deal and refusing a decent ESPN deal was their doom. I mostly feel sorry for Oregon State and Washington State, hope they get in a conference that won't implode if a team leaves.
Conference of no, the rivalry between the Mid-West and the West Coast won't go away. That said, this definetly feels sad. I liked the dialed-down presentation of the Pac-12 in contrast to ESPN's work with the SEC; Mouse Sports alway felt like over-done chest thumping. Fox does a nice enough job with the Big Ten. Here's hoping they continue that kind of production as they programme for the coast.
The SEC is overrated now not without merit but to act like the big 12 or pac 12 aren’t good tells me one of two things. You are either bias or ignorant. I’m from Virginia and I’m a Missouri fan but I had to pick a favorite conference it would have been the pac. I didn’t blink about usc or ucla leaving but the moment every team started to leave I was horrified. Washington went all the way to the fucking championship and honest Oregon should have been there over Texas ( and Florida state over Alabama, idfc fight me. Realistically division should have happened an ACTUAL playoff system years ago.). The pac collapse before and came back I hope it does again but still this shouldn’t have happened.
horrible network. hoarded all the games, i cannot watch Oregon in Oregon unless i have a special TV provider. good riddance. bye bye. thanks for the memories LARRY
This is why the Pac will be restored by lawmakers and there will be no more realignment. Everyone will go back where they came from and university presidents will decry being stuck in traditional conferences and not being allowed to seek monetary opportunities as being treated like inmates.
GOOD. I needed to get a job at Pac 12 Networks in 2012. Sent them my resume, background material, everything. I had 30 years' experience, Final Fours, Olympic Games, everything. They wouldn't bother talking to me when I made a follow up call. They said my stuff was stuck in transit somewhere in Alaska. Nice excuse. Good riddance ya bums!
I believe that the PAC will be back at some point in some form, and that it will all go back to regional and rivalries. The conferences are a mess, and the greed that allowed this to happen has to be stopped. These schools don't make enough money? The history, the traditions, the rivalries, and the fans don't matter? All of the new additions to the BIG and the ACC have to fly across the country for CONFERENCE games. Funnily enough, the SEC that they're all trying to emulate and catch up to are the conference that make the most sense geographically. It's just a damn shame what's been done, and will continue to be done to college sports. NIL is fine, these athletes have deserved to get paid for a long time. It's just hard to see something i love tear itself apart and try to reform itself into some Frankenstein's monster of greed.
While the Pac will be restored, NIL is absolutely not fine. No athlete deserves to be paid. They are children who are there to go to school first and should not be allowed to play unless they are admitted like Stanford, the Ivy League, and the military academies require. It's called amateurism.
I pretty much agree with all points. i would agree that the schedule is made around regional competition, but no conferences. Take the major US regions as reference. Northeast, pacific coast, north, south, rocky mountains, midwest, southeast... the major problem might an uneven number of schools per region. This is what I would like. Keep some rivalries, especially in the same state, and the rest of the schedule is defined in a random draw. Maybe 11 games with two regional groups, a championship game to define the regional champion and a playoff with all the champions to crown a king, a national champion. Actually, I really thing that in the future, the way things are headed, a new schedule formula might be adopted. Or the Big 10 and SEC schools break with the NCAA and do their own thing. My most realistic take. I'm not from the US, and I always saw a sports model based on automatic promotion and relegation. I know it's weird for y'all in the US, but it could be an alternative for CFB if you stop to really understand it. CFB is very similar, in history, to soccer in that regard. Basically every state has at least two major teams, so the demand for positioning in the grand scheme of things is gigantic (and the conception of the teams is more free than in any pro league). And it values what Bill Parcells said, the campaign says who you are. But I agree that an expansion of schedule would be much needed (we might see in some decades the NFL going for a full calendar year, the seed is there). I know it will never happen. But it would be a solution in the sense of crowning a winner, because everybody faces everybody. Even in the old format of conferences you wouldn't get all the teams playing against each other in the field, like from the 90's on.
College Football sucks now because all of these teams switching conferences I don't like it that runs the rivalry and The Pac12 should never lost their teams and NCAA Stop damn Conferences
Greed, mismanagement, and the replacement of tradition with pride without substance. The Pac-12 was both a victim of and cause of, the hubris of college spots. However, instead of the idea of "let's just end it with no value", it made sure that the names of the people who put together the network out for people to see. Far better than G4 which just quit trying long before it went off the air. I'm going to be honest, college sports aren't as fun anymore, outside March Madness, to the point to where I'm hardly watching any of it. Baseball only matters in May, football has no real value outside an elite few teams, the other sports are barely mentioned, and athletes having to get their own pay instead of getting a free ride through their 4 years, in any sport, is a joke. I hate to say it, but this won't be the last casualty of such a horrible situation.
Seems to me like eventually we’ll just have the SEC and the Big 10 left. From there each conference will have divisions in all 4 corners of the country and they won’t always make sense. Just like the NFL’s two conferences and divisions Why are the Texans and the Cowboys in different conferences? Why does Dallas play NY? This is about to happen to college football
No it won't. Congress will break up the SEC and Big 10, capping all conferences at 10 teams and making them all regional. The Pac will be restored and college sports will be put back in its place on the American sports totem pole behind the National Hockey League.
They should have shut it down on Aug 1 because the west coast schools join the B1G the day after. The two new schools joined the SEC a couple of days ago but what does that have to do with the Pac-12 network shutting down? Best of luck to the new Pac-12. I don't know if the new Pac-12 will exist only for football or for other sports. As of now OSU and WSU exist. I hope Sac State joins.
So that's why the new members aren't yet on B1G Network or ACC Network, unlike Longhorn Network shutting down right before SEC Network broadcast live from the 40 Acres.
A part of college athletic history now gone. Horrible management and not winning big time football games played a major role in the conference’s downfall.
Here's my generic "as a ______ fan located in _______, what happened to the Pac 12 is an utter disgrace to sports", since almost everyone is making that same comment.
Please stop saying "As a (team) fan..." if your comment has nothing to do with the fact that you are a fan of said team. Just say what you want to say.
I’m an East Coaster and Penn State fan, and what happened to the PAC-12 is a disgrace to college sports.
Not really. Things change.
@@Gringo-Billy No things don't change. I have never changed and never will. The Pac 8/10 will be reborn as it was in less than 15 years. NIL will also be gone. College sports will be back in the 1960s.
No major sport has changed more than college football
@@barryfinkle1755 And college football will be made great again with laws being passed outlawing NIL and making every university go back to the conference where they came from. Conferences will be capped at 10 teams maximum and required to be regional.
@@stanfordite1 NIL is around because the government said you can get paid for your name, image and likeness. The opposite of what you think is happening, Is actually happening. That's why the SEC and B1G are pulling away. To become an organized minor league football.
That felt like a eulogy at a memorial.
Bro what was the song at the end 😂😭
It’s quite poetic for me that the last two programs on the Pac 12 Network National feed were Pac 12 Classics on the USC-Oregon State game from 2006 and the Washington-Washington State game from 1992. Two games where the two teams that now comprise the Pac 2 won.
Probably done intentionally
@@trentl4395NO question!
Almost as if whoever was in charge of programming wanted to give everyone involved in the Pac-12's demise, but especially the surviving conferences, the middle finger on the way out by showing historic wins of the two schools they aren't getting.
@@SortaNonymous Certainly felt a little cheeky to me!
It was predetermined gobbledygook. You're probably one of those weirdos who thought Bill Walton died before the final pac 12 event was also poetic.
Good luck to Wazoo and the Beav as they climb the Mountain West.
This is unreasonably sad
As a Michigan Wolverines fan and a Midwest native I think what happened to the PAC 12 was very fucked up…very sad to see this go
ESPN will always be number one of this bullshit tragedy. Texas and Oklahoma are in second place of the domino effect followed by the negligence of the pac-12 owners who are so incompetent with their keep-ups of the conference too.
Fuck Texas and Oklahoma for what they started
Same
It’s the PAC’s own fault why is everyone feeling bad for a conference that couldn’t run themselves 😂
You know it's absolutely FUCKED when you got Penn State fans, OSU fans, and Michigan fans agreeing.
im a huge ND fan but i loved the pac 12 after dark football games. being on the east coast with the time differential, any 8pm game started at 11pm. so there was literally college football on from 12 in the afternoon til midnight into the next day. i loved it and will miss it.
Me too! Could watch football all day from 12pm-1am especially after daylight savings time ended nothing better
Worked there for eleven years including being on the crew for the very last live broadcast (Pac-12 baseball semifinal). So many names in that credits roll call Im gonna miss working with daily.
While the conference itself and the media rights situation was constantly tenuous, I loved working there with an amazing crew as we put out some incredible content and live broadcasts with production values that it made it look like we had twice the staff we actually had to pull everything off every day.
While a lot of us have gone our separate ways since May, including myself, I'll always cherish the opportunities the network provided me in the present and future, and the variety of cool things I got to do there, from stats and score bug, to video packages for games. It was an incredible time working there. Thanks for uploading this!
May be an insensitive question but did you guys get paid for the last month of rerun broadcasts?
@@david-468 I was a freelancer so I got paid for each live job. Not sure about what returns the actual network received in the rerun month, but the studio and a good portion of employees will remain there for further operation next season for Oregon State and Washington State broadcasts.
@@DSMTheEditor ah ok gotcha thank you for answering, i remember Bein a Teenager watching the network always thought it was top notch
I'm not a fan of any Pac-12 team but for some reason, this makes me sad. I guess, as a fan of college football, I'm just having a hard time adjusting to the massive changes going on in my favorite pastime (NIL, Transfer portal, conference realignment). The west coast needed a strong major conference but it seems like mismanagement at the top level of the conference doomed it. How ridiculous is it to have Stanford and Cal being in the ACC?
Tradition is what gets missed the most. The slow beginning of these messed up conferences happened when the Big East folded (I still miss seeing that conference in college football) and now geography went from being thrown out the window (Missouri and Texas A&M when they joined the SEC and West Virginia in the Big 12) to thrown out of the planet with these teams being all over the place now.
It's all fake emotional garbage. You aren't actually sad or having a hard time.
@@Gringo-Billy Just because you’re not sad doesn’t mean others aren’t sad about the state of college football
Who gives a fuck, its college football. Dont why you would care about any team unless you're actively attending the college.
@@russkimc so 98% of college football fans are wasting their time because they’re not current undergraduates? Sure, Jan.
Thanks for posting. I'm glad they ended with credits and I think it's good the last two shows that aired were about Oregon State and Washington State. Also glad you put this up, because my DVR couldn't record it since my Dish Network signal was out. How symbolic, because one of the only reasons I kept Dish was because of the Pac-12 Network.. going all the way back to August of 2012, because I remember watching that intro that's show in this vid of the channel launch. I know Larry Scott gets a lot of blame (and probably deserved), BUT remember something.. the school presidents could've fired that guy at any moment of his tenure. All it would've taken was a vote. They never did. Says more about the school leaders than Scott.
On Xfinity it says:
“This channel is no longer available
Effective June 30, 2024, the PAC-12 Networks have ceased operations”
As a WVU fan, it’s heartbreaking similar to the Big East breakup ..,😢
Except the Big East is still around, although it’s different. The Pac12 may be kaput long term.
Badger fan here. This is idiotic greed needs to stop. Wisconsin will be nothing more than a midpack team now. And all this cross-country travel in the name of sports is stupid. I have yet to decide if I’m going to stick around and support this crap, or look for an FCS team to support.
Congress will be putting a stop to it and legally reorganize the conferences back to what they were in the 20th century and that also means welcome back SWC and Big 8 conferences. Conferences will be capped at 10 teams maximum.
Support Idaho, they're the ones laughing at this since 1959 when the PCC failed.
@@mitchwinder1204 Oh, FCS programs have their own set of problems. I'm a graduate of Holy Cross. They've been very successful over the last few years, but with NIL, they and a lot of other top tier programs will lose their players to major programs because the $$ is so much better (hurts too that HC lost their coach to James Madison). But the transfer portal is just going to gut top FCS talent each year.
The Pac-12 networks had great production quality and made a lot of enjoyable watches. I hope all those who worked there find new employment elsewhere in due course.
Worked there for 11 years, thankfully, the industry is something where you'll come across the same people again down the road elsewhere, so while it was goodbye to some, I'm happy it's only see you later for others going forward
Appreciate the comment about our work, I loved that we took so much pride in it even when our days were numbered. The mantra was just "business as usual" and just continued to work as hard as we could.
you did a great job, everything from top to bottom was always quality. Sorry it went this way, but your outlook on the situation is everything and says ton of your character. @@DSMTheEditor
i’m an Oklahoma fan, and i feel partially responsible for this. makes me sick to think one decision snowballed into a whole conference being dissolved. i’m gonna miss the PAC 12 😕
pac 12 had to have had the most beautiful campuses in the nation as a collective conference
I think before the original 10 sec members had a strong argument . But the more recent additions are especially the Texas schools and Oklahoma are really drab and serious looking
Colorado fan here. Gonna miss our days in the PAC-12. Some of the finest moments in athletic history happened in PAC-12 games.
Rough first season as a Colorado fan, huh?
My favorite college team is Florida but I liked watching Pac-12 football, such a shame that the conference is going to be gone now.
That song at the end credits (starting at 4:24) is really good although I’ve looked it up and can’t find it anywhere.
Edit: I had to do quite a bit of digging to find that song but it’s called Stories Of Our Lives by Edward Wohl, Daniel Braunstein, and Olivia May.
Me too🐊
Super confrences really are the cancer killing cfb
I'm an East Coast guy and other than my school (Temple), I'm not a huge fan of college sports.
And what is happening to the Pac-12 is a big reason why.
It just goes to show - if football ain't happy, everyone and everything else suffers.
I'm an alum of a school that's just recently come up to FBS in the Sun Belt (James Madison) and while I don't have much love for most Power 5 (er, 4) conferences and programs due to the way they've acted over the years, I still think it's sad to see the Pac 12 go away. I don't even recognize college athletics hardly any more. The ACC I grew up watching as a kid in the '70s in Virginia is now the "All Coast Conference" instead of being all about VA/NC/SC/GA like it was. No SWC. No Big Eight. Rivalries getting disrupted (no more Bedlam, seriously?). I'm fortunate that I can root for a team in a G5 conference that makes at least some geographic sense but still, with realignment and NIL and all the rest...those days are gone forever. And it's sad.
I’m a Florida fan but looking back it was really the fall of the Big East which has slowly led to this with teams moving places that made no sense from a geographical standpoint but of course now things have been running rampant lately. For the first patch of realignments Maryland and Rutgers in the Big 10, West Virginia in the Big 12, then Texas A&M and Missouri in the SEC already made no sense as it was. Now West Coast teams in a Midwestern conference, a couple of them in a central US conference, and a couple of teams now in a conference involving the East Coast? Greed is killing tradition everywhere and it’s really sad to see while none of us really have much of an input on it either. With these super conferences now, it’s a good thing the playoff system got expanded at least to 12 teams for now but will be at 14 for 2026 but even that may not be enough for long if this keeps up. Next thing you know it’ll be a West Coast and East Coast based super conference alone while teams in the middle of the country will be fighting for scraps to see which of those conferences will take them in.
It’s genuinely messed up with all these conference realignments. The big east, the pac12, the big 12 and the acc are on the verge of collapse, and the big 10 and SEC have become way too big and powerful. Something has to change
I feel bad for the fans of sports other than basketball and baseball, no matter how small those sports may be. Like all jokes aside, I genuinely feel bad for the, say, field hockey fans whose favorite rivalries are getting destroyed by greed over that one sport where people try to tackle each other while carrying weirdly-shaped balls.
field hockey fans are the most gatejeeping ass people… like nobody new can touch their sport ever… no one allowed
Loved the Pac 12 since it was the Pac 8, and I was a boy. It is heartbreaking to see it dissolved over greed. Makes me sad and more than just a bit bitter.
R.I.P 🪦 PAC-12 NETWORK 2012-2024 0:52 0:59
R.I.P 🪦 PAC-12 NETWORK 2012-2024 0:52 0:59
As a Tennessee fan, it's sad to see that the greed of ESPN, Fox Sports, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington killed the PAC 12. College sports really isn't the same as it used to, and this feels like the death of that old college sports.
It’s the PAC’s own fault for their incompetence and lack of leadership
The ACC is now on the iron lung😂😂😂😂
And all those schools will be forced back to the Pac by the government and the University presidents will be screaming how conferences are being turned into gulags. ESPN will be broken off from Disney under antitrust.
I’m an sec fan but it’s still sad to see the pac-12 go
You aren't even close to sad, nobody is and that's fine.
@Gringo-Billy What Special Powers do you possess to tell people what they ACTUALLY feel??? None. Since I KNOW you live on Planet Earth 🌏, you are NOTHING but a Human like the rest. I'm upset about what has been lost.....you wanna tell me that my 45 yrz of being a Black Man living on this planet, that my feelings are incorrect??????
@@johndough-jr6od
Screw the Mid 10 if you're a northerner who doesn't know actual good football 😂💀 I know you're upset buddy but blame ESPN for the downfall of the pac-12 lmao
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Oh please!! 😆😂 At least the sec is known for winning championships compared to the deceased pac-12 and the mid 10 conference ahaha
@@johndough-jr6od
I sure do want to tell you that I don't even like how we departed from cbs and had to be forced to sell our souls to a dying woke sports network like espn because they want more money.
So sad, I knew it was happening but when I watched them go off the air, it was still stunning. 😢
Not a PAC-12 guy but what happened isn’t good for college sports. Should never have been allowed and I hope it isn’t repeated.
How football controls every sport shown right here
The best Pac12 moment I have ever witnessed was back November of 2007. I got to experience my first college football game in Arizona, it was #2 Oregon @ Arizona. I didn’t know much about college football till my grandfather told me about it and how he prefers it over the NFL. I can see why cause that day AZ upset Oregon, then having to see the crowd climb over the stands and run to the field was amazing. That was when I enjoyed the sport more. Since I’m from AZ, I got to see some of the best Pac12 games on TV. The conference really made it more entertaining to watch college football in general.
It’s a shame it had to depart like that. Really thought it was gonna stick around for a while. But I guess all things must come to an end. Here’s hoping Arizona can somehow pull off a positive season in the Big 12 😂
SEC fan here - we should all be ashamed of ourselves for letting this happen. Fans from every conference should fight to move it back. Hopefully after a few years it could.
Small school fan here, it's literally y'all who did this. We've got nothing to be ashamed of.
@@Sad-Panda-86 small schools have just as much blame…. They move into a big boy conference for the money, but continue to put a trash product on the field making conferences even weaker. They also don’t bring in enough money and should be forced to stay at the FCS level. There needs to be a rule in college football, that if a team doesn’t bring in 50 million you go to FCS. Before idiots start freaking out I’m not talking about profit, I’m talking about revenue generated over the course of a 12 month period. This alone would have saved the PAC 12 as NCAA wouldn’t have to prop up these suck ass small schools/conferences. That money could have gone to keep the 12 in order.
@@Sad-Panda-86 You literally think the SEC commissioner went and asked the fans if they wanted this to happen? He knew that they would say no. Commissioners value money above anything else, so don't take it out on SEC fans.
I'm a Utah fan, and I'm going to miss being in the PAC12. Next year just isn't going to be the same.
as a longhorn fan, we loved you pac-12. You made memories for me and others across the country. Rest Easy.
Hard to believe. I am a Michigan fan, and I always enjoyed the PAC 8/10/12 vs Big 10 games, most notably in The Rose Bowl. But, this is what 21st century college football (CF) looks like and it is sad. It seems like, in the last 10 years or so, we've seen CF transform into another professional league, consequences be damned.
I have grown up being a big 10 boy, and I always loved the notion of playing those west coast guys in the rose bowl at the end of the sunny rose bowl parade after a long year of triumph in the first day of a glorious new year. It’s really sad they’re no more - from their rival in the heartland.
Rip to the pac12 from a Sanford fan😢😭😭😭😭
As an Alabama fan and admiring Boise State growing up, I have always respected teams in every sport that comes out of the Pac-12. Times are changing in college athletics by the moment in both ways, and we have no option but to move forward. Farewell Pac 12, it's been good!!
Well at least we won't have to get pissed off they are airing _"Top 25 PAC-12 football players of all time"_ for the 3,741st time, instead of airing an game that was actually live or something... This network was a complete failure.
Damn… it’s really over.
I can confirm with access to time travel that the Pac 10 is alive and well and reformed.
Goodbye, PAC-12😢
I’ll say this as a die hard sec fan with deep ties to vandy, grew up in Kentucky, and went to lsu. I hated the pac 12 but my god those games were so entertaining and what happened to the conference is a sign of the horrors that are coming in the future of college sports
this is such a beautiful sendoff
Why did this have to happen to my favorite conference?
On spectrum it says: “channel no longer available
Who sings the song in the credits
Song is called “Stories of Our Lives”
Olivia May does the vocals but Edward Wohl and Daniel Braunstein also wrote the song which is called Stories Of Our Lives. It’s also available on Apple Music
ending with credits hurts. it stings. it sucks.
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Gonna miss the Pac-12 😢
That’s an odd way to end June 30 with the disbanding of the pac-12 by a channel that is mostly about the weather! Well, it’s now off -and no more! 😮😮😮😮
No Pac 12 conference is something I NEVER saw happening. I do not like the direction that college sports is heading.
I understand why the programs moved, the cash from the PAC 12 was low compared to other conferences, but it's still sad the conference is gone.
where to watch gymnastics now i liked to watch gymnastic on pac 12.
This is the college football equivalent of the fall of the Soviet Union.
#GoBackToThePAC
I can confirm the Pac will be reformed in less than 20 years. I have a real time traveling DeLorean. Doc Brown would be pleased.
“You're gonna carry that weight...”
I wonder if back in 1990, when Oklahoma and Georgia won the anti-trust suit against the NCAA, if they ever thought that 30 years later all of this would happen. I mean almost immediately after the conferences gained control of the TV rights from the NCAA, the Southwest Conference collapsed after 80 years and the sport began consolidating. Now we're down to four super conferences, two elite conferences, and a bunch of smaller leagues who have no chance of competing against the power 4 leagues. Between the death of regional rivalries and the bowl game's mystique, they couldn't possibly have thought that this would either be possible or a good outcome.
I look forward to Congress overturning the antitrust ruling against the NCAA and giving the NCAA totalitarian God level control over TV rights and what universities get to appear on TV.
the SWC had a horrible mismanagement problem too, of course with things that would be perfectly legal today. The only death penalty ever issued by the NCAA for football was for an SWC school (SMU)
I think the idea of conferences might be a thing of the past in the future. And the way the sport is going, it might be the end of many things. Almost all, if not all, bowl games for example.
As I see, the way I grew up (not from the US), I think it might be best that we have, to restore rivalries, a division based in the main regions of the geographical US. Like, I don't know, northeast, cascadia, pacific coast, midwest, south, north, rocky mountains... I don't know. Do this, playoffs for all regional champions.
Or even say to hell with it, each school keeps a rivalry in state and another against an out-of state team (ideally). We have 129 teams, even the field at 130, make it 13 randomly drawn groups of 10 and you play 11 games. 9 in your group, two against each rival. If one or both your predefined rivals are in your group, you can schedule another historical rivalry for the open dates. Or something along those lines of undefined schedules and group draws. Same thing, playoffs for all group winners to define the national champion.
We know that a team will not face all it's peers and, for me, there is another factor: the NCAA not having a formula to define a national champion. This is a more recent problem, but it exists.
What might really happen though is what I heard Rich Eisen saying once, the SEC and Big 10 schools breaking up with the NCAA and establishing their own thing.
@@otaviofrnazario None of that is going to happen. The SWC and Big 8 will be reformed and college football will go back to the 1950s. There will be all regional conferences reformed again and the NCAA will have control of TV again which means some schools will not be seen on TV outside traditional rivalries or bowl games. There will also be no more playoffs and champions will be decided by polls again. Like what's going to happen? A mass exodus of players who will say "what's the point of playing the game if there's no national championship game on the field?"
Greed is killing collegiate athletics
Reading these comments, listening to people wax poetically about the Pac-12, you forget that the conference killed themselves. I will have fond memories of all the Big Ten vs Pac-10/12 Rose Bowls. I attended several myself, but the problems started LONG before even Larry Scott was hired. Bad TV deals and time slots, relegation to late night TV that most of the country didn’t watch, and disparate payouts were leaving the Pac-10 behind the other major conferences. If the conference had any muscle, they would have asked east coast teams to split the difference,l and start their lower tier matchups earlier than 9:30 Pacific, so that lower tier west coast matchups weren't kicking off after 11:00 Eastern. Instead, they blamed the problem on a lack of a conference championship game. They felt they HAD to add two schools, so that they would be eligible to have a Pac-12 title game. (Funny how only a few years later, the Big-12 was able to ask, "can we change the rules, so that we can have a title game, even though we only have like 8 schools, and the rest of the NCAA agreed. Why didn't the Pac-10 think to do that?) Instead they went after 2 schools that were a bad culture fit, diluted the payout without substantial revenue increase, and again negotiated from a position of weakness. Without knowing how this conference's bread was buttered -- mostly Los Angeles eyeballs -- the new schools insisted on an equal payout per team, fomenting resentment in the conference big dogs that were bringing home the bacon. Doubling down on its own stupidity, the woke Pac-12 tried to downplay the importance of football and elevate Olympic sports to the same level, resulting in an independently-run, overpriced collection of networks that DirecTV wouldn't offer to their subscribers vis-a-vis the ESPN-run SEC network or the Fox-run Big Ten network that DirecTV was forced to offer. They focused mostly on football, because the economic reality is that football and to a lesser degree men's basketball are the sports that drive college sports revenue. As the payout disparities mounted and schools like USC and UCLA saw they needed to jump ship in order to "keep up with the Jones" amd have any hope of relevancy in the modern age, why should anyone be suprised by the outcome?
With only 2 teams in the pac 12 conference, I am NOT surprised that the networks are gonna shut down
*9.12.24 Update* RELAUNCH THE NETWORKS IN 2026! I JUST HEARD THAT THEYRE COMING BACK WITH 6 TEAMS
*10.4.24 Update* CORRECTION: 7 teams
7 teams now
@@ocbusfan ah thanks for reminding me
It was cool that it was captured. I do which the channel creator replied to some comments however. I normally make it a policy to not comment on videos where I believe the creator is not reading comments.
i although agree, but it is not in my policy handbook so i can comment on here if i want
4:23 When you can't get the licensing/pay the royalties for Taylor Swift's "Long Live" lol
What happened to the PAC-12 was a disgrace to sports in general, and it all has to do with college football. I see the ACC headed down the same path as the PAC-12. Nothing like a UCLA/Rutgers match-up or a Cal/Va. Tech match-up in basketball during the middle of the week.
Sometimes I wonder if the Pac woulda made it if they said "forget the networks" and went all-in on streaming media. I know that market saturation is high enough for streaming media but in the college sports world the Pac-12 would've been far ahead of the curve if they did an NFL-plus-esque streaming service, complete with game archives and exclusive content.
Hell, they might've been able to make live games free-view and just have the extras be a small charge.
Nope, what would have made it easier for them was to somehow make themselves as appealing to the powers that be as a team in the Midwest or the Old Confederacy (read: more monetizable).
Streaming is going to be banned as a medium and the Pac will be re-organized by the government. The NCAA will once again control every aspect of college football on TV.
Because of poor management, The PAC-12 killed itself.
Even if they brought in Texas and Oklahoma back in 2010-2012 those schools would have left because those schools' culture doesn't fit.
I'm a SEC guy (Gator Fan) and they did it right. Unless something major happens, the schools in this conference won't go anywhere because they are a cultural fit.
My only disagreement about the Southeastern conference is the exit fee. Around COVID they instituted a buyout fee. I think the conference should have one. You wanna leave, then go...
Important lesson here is to never hire a former professional tennis player with a losing record to run your college sports conference.
The current conference situation in college sports is an absolute travesty and an embarrassment for both the fans and players & their families.
The official death of the PAC 12
I'm a SEC fan but the PAC 12 had great football on Saturdays, WHAT A NATIONAL DISGRACE that the ex commissioner destroyed the conference single handedly
Pac 12 really died because of incompetent suits who didn't take advantage of the rising tides and shifts of college sports.
The whole Pac 12 and them trying to get that Apple deal and refusing a decent ESPN deal was their doom.
I mostly feel sorry for Oregon State and Washington State, hope they get in a conference that won't implode if a team leaves.
They should have raided the MWC and the American for their best teams before all that movement happened.
Conference of no, the rivalry between the Mid-West and the West Coast won't go away. That said, this definetly feels sad. I liked the dialed-down presentation of the Pac-12 in contrast to ESPN's work with the SEC; Mouse Sports alway felt like over-done chest thumping. Fox does a nice enough job with the Big Ten. Here's hoping they continue that kind of production as they programme for the coast.
This is why I'm dune with college sports greed has ruined it.
The SEC is overrated now not without merit but to act like the big 12 or pac 12 aren’t good tells me one of two things. You are either bias or ignorant. I’m from Virginia and I’m a Missouri fan but I had to pick a favorite conference it would have been the pac. I didn’t blink about usc or ucla leaving but the moment every team started to leave I was horrified. Washington went all the way to the fucking championship and honest Oregon should have been there over Texas ( and Florida state over Alabama, idfc fight me. Realistically division should have happened an ACTUAL playoff system years ago.). The pac collapse before and came back I hope it does again but still this shouldn’t have happened.
That’s okay, now you can all enjoy the Big East or NASCAR
so long farewell alfiedersein goodbye
horrible network. hoarded all the games, i cannot watch Oregon in Oregon unless i have a special TV provider. good riddance. bye bye. thanks for the memories LARRY
blackout policies are indeed a deal breaker... for anything
Man just think of the travel these schools are going to have having to travel back and forth across the US just to play each other🤦🏾♂️
This is why the Pac will be restored by lawmakers and there will be no more realignment. Everyone will go back where they came from and university presidents will decry being stuck in traditional conferences and not being allowed to seek monetary opportunities as being treated like inmates.
I didn’t you you received PAC 12 Networks
well... now pac 12 is now discontinued
GOOD. I needed to get a job at Pac 12 Networks in 2012. Sent them my resume, background material, everything. I had 30 years' experience, Final Fours, Olympic Games, everything. They wouldn't bother talking to me when I made a follow up call. They said my stuff was stuck in transit somewhere in Alaska. Nice excuse. Good riddance ya bums!
I’m glad they shut down already
😢
All hail Utah’s conference
I believe that the PAC will be back at some point in some form, and that it will all go back to regional and rivalries. The conferences are a mess, and the greed that allowed this to happen has to be stopped.
These schools don't make enough money? The history, the traditions, the rivalries, and the fans don't matter? All of the new additions to the BIG and the ACC have to fly across the country for CONFERENCE games. Funnily enough, the SEC that they're all trying to emulate and catch up to are the conference that make the most sense geographically.
It's just a damn shame what's been done, and will continue to be done to college sports. NIL is fine, these athletes have deserved to get paid for a long time. It's just hard to see something i love tear itself apart and try to reform itself into some Frankenstein's monster of greed.
While the Pac will be restored, NIL is absolutely not fine. No athlete deserves to be paid. They are children who are there to go to school first and should not be allowed to play unless they are admitted like Stanford, the Ivy League, and the military academies require. It's called amateurism.
I pretty much agree with all points. i would agree that the schedule is made around regional competition, but no conferences. Take the major US regions as reference. Northeast, pacific coast, north, south, rocky mountains, midwest, southeast... the major problem might an uneven number of schools per region. This is what I would like. Keep some rivalries, especially in the same state, and the rest of the schedule is defined in a random draw. Maybe 11 games with two regional groups, a championship game to define the regional champion and a playoff with all the champions to crown a king, a national champion.
Actually, I really thing that in the future, the way things are headed, a new schedule formula might be adopted. Or the Big 10 and SEC schools break with the NCAA and do their own thing. My most realistic take.
I'm not from the US, and I always saw a sports model based on automatic promotion and relegation. I know it's weird for y'all in the US, but it could be an alternative for CFB if you stop to really understand it. CFB is very similar, in history, to soccer in that regard. Basically every state has at least two major teams, so the demand for positioning in the grand scheme of things is gigantic (and the conception of the teams is more free than in any pro league). And it values what Bill Parcells said, the campaign says who you are. But I agree that an expansion of schedule would be much needed (we might see in some decades the NFL going for a full calendar year, the seed is there). I know it will never happen. But it would be a solution in the sense of crowning a winner, because everybody faces everybody. Even in the old format of conferences you wouldn't get all the teams playing against each other in the field, like from the 90's on.
Think about how many jobs were lost, families moved, and lives changed, just because of the decision for some more money by a couple rich old guys.
College Football sucks now because all of these teams switching conferences I don't like it that runs the rivalry and The Pac12 should never lost their teams and NCAA Stop damn Conferences
Greed, mismanagement, and the replacement of tradition with pride without substance. The Pac-12 was both a victim of and cause of, the hubris of college spots. However, instead of the idea of "let's just end it with no value", it made sure that the names of the people who put together the network out for people to see. Far better than G4 which just quit trying long before it went off the air.
I'm going to be honest, college sports aren't as fun anymore, outside March Madness, to the point to where I'm hardly watching any of it. Baseball only matters in May, football has no real value outside an elite few teams, the other sports are barely mentioned, and athletes having to get their own pay instead of getting a free ride through their 4 years, in any sport, is a joke. I hate to say it, but this won't be the last casualty of such a horrible situation.
Seems to me like eventually we’ll just have the SEC and the Big 10 left.
From there each conference will have divisions in all 4 corners of the country and they won’t always make sense. Just like the NFL’s two conferences and divisions
Why are the Texans and the Cowboys in different conferences? Why does Dallas play NY? This is about to happen to college football
No it won't. Congress will break up the SEC and Big 10, capping all conferences at 10 teams and making them all regional. The Pac will be restored and college sports will be put back in its place on the American sports totem pole behind the National Hockey League.
Time for me to move on with my obsession with sports. Praised be Jesus Christ, now and forever!
The pac 12 mattered. Disgraceful
This is Disgusting! not the Tribute the Situation!
Syracuse fan and just awful what happened to the Pac 12.
What a disgrace
Pac12 refs killed pac 12
They should have shut it down on Aug 1 because the west coast schools join the B1G the day after. The two new schools joined the SEC a couple of days ago but what does that have to do with the Pac-12 network shutting down? Best of luck to the new Pac-12. I don't know if the new Pac-12 will exist only for football or for other sports. As of now OSU and WSU exist. I hope Sac State joins.
So that's why the new members aren't yet on B1G Network or ACC Network, unlike Longhorn Network shutting down right before SEC Network broadcast live from the 40 Acres.
A part of college athletic history now gone. Horrible management and not winning big time football games played a major role in the conference’s downfall.
No it's not gone. The Make College Sports Great Again movement has restored the Pac 10 and taken college sports back to the 1960s.
Pac12 network was horendice.
Here's my generic "as a ______ fan located in _______, what happened to the Pac 12 is an utter disgrace to sports", since almost everyone is making that same comment.
I have no idea what pac-12 networks is so this is not sad to me lmao
It was a TV-Network produced by the PAC-12 Conference.
RIP conference of chumpions
Please stop saying "As a (team) fan..." if your comment has nothing to do with the fact that you are a fan of said team. Just say what you want to say.