The worst part is, she has yet to take FULL accountability in her part in all of this. Which means she hasn't fully learned her lesson yet. You know what they say, "A hard head makes a soft behind" and she's only seeing herself as a victim when throughout most of the relationship she was a willing participant. A clear example of this is him being a racist and her calling it out NOW, but I bet when that red flag was beginning to show earlier in their "relationship" she didn't care because she was blinded by the lifestyle and the trinkets he was providing. In my opinion, she doesn't seem that bright. She had no thought to save any of the money he was giving her? He was paying $1800 for her hair appointments alone and it didn't cross her mind to put $1000 away for a rainy day? He buys you a car (which he later repossess) but you don't think to tell him to put it in your name? Sis really came out of this deal with NOTHING to show for it but a baby and some bags, shoes, and clothes! I guess you can count her social media platform (which she can make money from) but THAT'S IT?! She literally played the game to lose in the end. She was not playing the game to win. Sorry to that girl 🤷🏾♀️
@@velvetpanther7032 I sure hope so, but her ex PUMPKIN HEAD alluded to her immigrant and visa status being in question (hopefully he's lying) and that could possibly affect her getting child support. I just hope at this point the odds and laws are in her favor.
I hope she can get child support but a bitter low down man if his status will find a way to wiggle out of it. I hope her visa isn’t in question because he can use that against her as well and try to get custody of the child.
She definitely has won the game aka permanent us residency via a vawa visa if she qualifies. The proof is in the pudding. Her evidence is documented. This girl is smarter than you think.
If a man’s ex-wife’s tells you her ex-husband is trash believe her. No, she is not bitter or jealous. She fell for fantasy and lived the reality. I hope this young woman got her degree and able to build a life for herself and child. Put that man on child support.
This whole ordeal was so sad to watch. Then her confidently thinking this WM won’t use his privilege to try and ruin her is foolish. She definitely did not move smart at all.
I stopped issuing sympathy to women who ignore the advice from prior exes of their partner. They always think their the chosen ones or different, just to play victim and naive when he shows you that you are no different and that he would do the same to you. Lesson learned for her but many of the women like her.
@@imo.124 I agree, but if she overstayed her visa, she will not likely attempt to get child support. As an immigration attorney, I see many ( most women) make this mistake. Unfortunate story!
The craziest thing is she was probably doing the social media fronting for attention from other women. Showing off a narc to impress and flex for women that want your lie.
This man called her a sex worker, stated that it started off as a $600 transaction. He said he was scared of witches basically calling her a witch. I mean it's not worth the embarrassment. The Internet is forever.
Thats why I always say have your own money. Dont have a man buying you your first anything. He should add to what you already have. He should be taking you to restaurants you take yourself. He should take you to vacation spots youre use to going to.Then, and only then will you have the advantage. IMO. Also, as Chloe said, keep your mouth shut. Why is that so hard to do?
staying silent is the new "quiet luxury" Post trips to museums, parks etc fun times w friends, the sky, pets. Don't let anyone know your game, and how to out fox you. Also, post these locations well after you are gone from there for protection.
@@marig9236yes! At least 24-48 hours after you leave said location. been doing that for years. For safety purposes as well. I’m still sitting on vacation photos from months ago.
She could've first of all kept her sugar daddy and that part of her life private. invested that money, got herself some real assets like a house, expensive car or other valuable things that can be resold. And definitely not gotten pregnant.
This lady played herself. Sugar babies aren't supposed to get pregnant. Sugar daddies want fun with a young pretty woman, they're not signing up for fatherhood. She should have enjoyed the perks without giving him wife privileges. When living this lifestyle, stay off social media and make sure you get something valuable out of it like a free education. ROFLMAO, Mr. Stale Bread Pumpkinhead took me out! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Its never safe to have a baby by a man that is not your husband and expecting to be wifed up just because you're pregnant . She tried to use a pregnancy to guarentee her financial status but it back fired very badly for her
What could she have done differently? Kept the journey to herself & not have gotten pregnant. What could she do now? Capitalize on the wave of sympathy she'll be receiving. I imagine a lot of people are invested & want to see how it ends. She can write a book, and get invited to some talk shows to raise awareness about SB culture. Thanks, as always, Chloe_
Not really it’s going viral because people are laughing not feeling bad for her. She parades this man around as if he is a prize was her downfall. Nobody wants to hear about how you lost your bag by being boastful
Sugaring, prostitution, transactional ..just semantics! I would encourage young ladies to get skills and fund their OWN lives until marriage. Then she can choose a decent, provider man who doesn't make her want to throw up at the prospect of being intimate. This is called selling your souls ladies! P.S. I do love your content Chloe, keep them coming💛.
I’d have turned off my comments and operated my platform like a Hermès handbag boutique appointment (pay for behind the scenes detail, and even then curated). It’s strictly business with certain types of men. A man willing to pay for proximity to youthfulness like he was valued that above all else. The fantasy girlfriend vibe was to be private and solely for his overinflated EGO. He should have never been shown on her account, you don’t go around posting your credit card number- he should have been treated the same as way.
She should have kept her lifestyle to herself and not tried to make a tik tok following off of it. Move like Lori, in silence. I hate this for this woman.
This is why if you wanna live this lifestyle: 1) know how they truly feel about you as a African/ African A. Women. 2) you gotta lay low low, this lifestyle isn’t for play play. They are with you on a fantasy. They don’t indulge for babies. Takes away from the fantasy. Keep that in mind always.
You are so correct about how desperate women are to display their lives on social media to get approval from others about their lifestyle. I don’t have an active social media account on social media for this exact reason. My life is private regardless of how good or not it is.
Ladies, sugar babies, get on birth control asap. a pill, a patch, something. these men ain't worth it and dragging an innocent child into what is most likely will be a mess, isn't the come up you think it is.
@@prettylifeprettywife7171 Its a hard pill I have to swallow, I know. But we all act like it takes one person to get pregnant. I know I know. But men should be held accountable too. This feminist movement set women back. Everything is on us. Everything. Right or wrong, everything is on us. Ladies practice hypergamy in a strategic way! It's the only way!
@@AyaEgbuho no ma’am I don’t want to hear it. As a women we can control pregnancy. I never wanted kids I met a lot of men that wanted kids by me or just anyone. Guess what. I’m 41 and labeled the rich auntie no kids. Please stop with that narrative as a women we absolutely have control over pregnancy even though it takes 2 to conceive. Just say a lot of the girls are irresponsible or afraid to tell these guys No. Bye!
Hi Chloe Most men are only willing to add on to your accomplishments he is not willing to build you from the bottom. The moment he sees that he will turn the money faucet OFF. Even as a SB you should always have your basics(income that supports your lifestyle FULLY we should not need to ask for money to pay gas bills, your own place, your own car, your own things that you do for fun things you do mentally and spiritually to feed your self, these are basics). When we have basics and maybe a little more most men have no problem investing in the ideas we bring to him. Please don’t ever let SD finance you fully he is going to let you fall HARD. Ok bye.
I didn’t see any of this.. This sounds terrible. I do wish that older will help the younger understand why moving in silence at times. (Unless danger is involved) Sugaring is no time for feelings or creating families. Women have to protect themselves and fertility. Thank you for reiterating ALL men will do this and there’s no shortage of other races of men who will gleefully clown you once they’ve had enough of a woman.
Ladies I think it’s time to ask ourselves these questions: 1) Am I compatible with the Lifestyle I want 2) If not , am I willing to do the work 3) For how long 4) how high is my risk level 5) Am I aware of the image and reputation I will have if I get the lifestyle I desperately want 6) What are my strengths and weaknesses and how can I create a lifestyle I need and not always exactly the one I want … I believe Chloe gave us so many cautionary tales to learn from that at some point we shouldn’t be wondering how to move anymore I hope this lady in the video heals and thrive from this situation
I’m glad when I had my sugar pie there was NO social media around lol. Soon as he kept saying he was going to put a baby in me, I was out! ✌🏾absolutely not Sir!
You can tell who is new to the SB lifestyle or not having the finer things in life, and the audience of these women are also “hypergamous wannabes”. It’s embarrassing seeing grown women be so desperate to show off everything they have in life. She posted her daily lives and did nothing of substance except be a housewife and get pregnant.
Moving in silence is key especially as a bw! Mind you,this woman has a child & military husband back home💁🏽♀️... allegedly... She should've been investing whatever $ she got from this yt man & refrained from doing wife/housekeeper duties 🤦🏽♀️🤡... wtf
A situation like this is humiliating and degrading even if you are moving in silence. You still have to look yourself in the mirror. Also, this could've ended worse for her if this nasty guy was tick, tick, boom... she clearly is not safe with him. Not worth it to me.
You are spot on, I think in her case as humiliating is it might be the exposure is her security so that he can’t do the unthinkable. At least at this point he knows SM is watching and will call the police if she goes missing.
I had no idea pumpkin was that old. A man his age wearing a Gucci belt and versace shirt is the biggest red flag! He definitely came off as if he was in his 30's 😬
People get very addicted to the social nedia attention. It's a vicious cycle. I'm sorry to see this. But hopefully she bounces back! And moves out! Cause that child support is coming. And his aggressive abuse he is taping is not going to look good before the judge.
Using any man as a financial plan is dumb. Get your own money. Even being hypergamous that man is going to use his money against you. Men see money as power and power as control. Get your own money, stay in shape and stay pretty
She should have lived her life in private instead of showing this man off as if he’s some prize is how she lost her bag it always blows up in their faces by bragging about how a man introduced you to luxury. It’s only a flex when you can do it yourself. Better sell that Range Rover and get an apartment
Men and women are so jealous of women who have provider men even if that was her husband people would have something to say however she should’ve never had a baby or posted anything about him on social media a private life is a happy one If I gotta take a L I’m taking it in silence
You’re right Chloe, her biggest mistake was having a baby with a sugar daddy. It’s hard to believe she endured 9 whole months with him, & for what? First hand discriminatory embarrassment for you and your mixed baby (that he didn’t want)? Smh not worth it.
And the haters, lurkers and ear hustlers are so committed to finding the man and everything about regardless of the emojis u put on his face. I am always in awe of all the TikTok pages dedicated to “exposing” her, her man and their life. 🙄 I follow her but I’m not that invested. I just watch her videos and scroll past without giving her a 2nd thought
1. She should have taken care of birth control herself. Men never care about doing so and they always assume the woman will do it. Whatever you think of whose responsibility it is, you should always take care of yourself properly, including birth control. 2. She should have educated herself about the pros and cons of being a sugar and looked deep inside herself to discern whether she has the right mind set and emotional strength to just enjoy the lifestyle and not look for love. Men who become sugar daddies are NEVER interested in anything other than the transactional lifestyle and it's disrespectful to yourself and to them to expect that they will fall in love with you and you'll get the Pretty Woman lifestyle. No. If he enters into that kind of arrangement with you, he is not and never will be looking for the fairytale. And he will turn on you like a rabid dog if you break the agreement you two have. Pro tip: no matter how magnificent you are, you will NEVER change his mind. Stop being delusional about this fact. 3. She should have had some kind of contract drawn up before she became his sugar about what they both bring to the table and what each side expects. That way, it's in writing and nobody can cry foul and play the victim. Is this a cold, calculating way of going about things? Absolutely. But the relationship was only ever going to be a transactional one so a solid contract makes sense and protects both parties. This young woman is a cautionary tale about what can happen when let your emotions rule your behaviour. It's a tough situation she's in but I can't really be too sympathetic because she let this happen (see point 1). I"m not saying he's blameless here, far from it. But as women our first duty and loyalty is to ourselves and we have to aim high on the "what do I deserve" scale. I'm not saying it's wrong to want the fairytale. I'm saying it's wrong to expect a transactional man to give it to you. There are plenty of loving, decent men wanting a family and who have a good income and will give you the life you want. But you have to be smart about it and don't let Hollywood romance brainwashing dictate how you treat yourself.
@@honeylamour1 Smh. That's even more reason for her to have not advertised the money she got from her John to that pimp. All of them seem horrible --- and lacking judgment.
In my opinion...he is getting everything he deserves. Assumimg she has always wanted to become a mother, this is the ultimate checkmate. So, now she gets a child she probably wanted anyway, a child who will be born as an U.S. Citizen, AND more money in child support for 18 years than she was probably getting from him as a sugar baby. Now she gets the money without having to do or be anything for him at all. I don't feel sorry for men like this. But I do feel overall playing this type of game with males (of any income bracket) is a dangerous gamble.
She made him the prize hiding his face, showing hiw lucky she was. He should have never existed. Id be posting pics like i own the appt living my best life. He is YT, with money and patriarchy and clearly knows her secrets and unhinged. Dangerous situation for her. Women never learn that a child is a forever job, you don't trap a man, you trap yourself.
Most people will never learn to be private. People say you should not judge a book by it's cover, but sometimes it's what yoi should do as triflin' and no good bum with cash is written all over that old fool's face. I understand there's exceptions to every rule wich is why you need to keep your eyes wide open, listen to your gut feelings all the time, pray for your discernment game to become stronger and to simply not try to hold on to a man by accidentally getting pregnant as too many women still engage in this thing. It is just too stupid and sad. I am mad at them both in this one. I am such a shy and private person that most folks don't even know my bf name. Even if this clown was angry at her, he didn't have to run to social media to involve the entire world. I also saw some comments about women getting their own cash so they don't have to get embarresed like that, wich is obviously from women with short memory , as a toxic man will find a million ways to humiliate you wether you make your money yourself or not.
She knew the game very well and apparently has another child back in Africa and is already married. 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾 She was finessing the man as well and probably thought having a child would seal the deal or get more out of him. 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
I also listen to the ex-partners, even if I wanted to continue into a relationship with the man in question. No ex is bitter about someone who is out of their life; is doing better without them or even happier with less. They both are in the wrong but I hope she comes out on top as he really told her about herself on a public platform without any grace. This man has no shame about playing house with a hoe, tramp, etc. Just because these men are older doesn't mean they are wiser, this will come back to burn him too. He took advantage of her as well, we all see him for what he is. They could have had a conversation in private but no they had it online. if I was anyone in the neighbouring community I wouldn't do any business with him or anyone associated with him as his community also agrees with his values. I think Cindy should plan her next move, sell all that she can and buss an move. She's a very beautiful woman and will find another man to come and look after her and her child without any doubt. Get a hard drive and save everything to use in court!
My uber driver is going through the same thing her kids are 6 and 4. Nasty long drawn out divorce the man is trying to pull the rug from under her leaving her high and dry. Thia can happen to anyone saint and siiners.
I’m sorry but she’s silly af to have a baby in this situation. What sugar baby actually has a baby with her sugar daddy? 🙃 This man is 57 he isn’t trying to be a father and yes, it’s his responsibility not to get her pregnant but she’s definitely going to suffer more from this. Silly, silly silly! 🤦🏿♀️
I wonder why the negative comments get so much love. When I gave the positive perspective there was only one person who responded. I'm different. I have always went against the grain, thought for myself and spoke up when things didn't seem right. I never been popular for this reason. I used to feel bad about this but now I realize it's a blessing to have a mind of my own.
I knew something was wrong when she stated that he wanted to marry her and she said no, but then turns a round a gets knocked up with no ring. To me she knew he wasn't fir for marriage but the fact that she thought he was fit to be a dad???? Then he practically abandoned her while being pregnant. It's sad. Then she got mad when people were commenting that it made no sense living that lifestyle by not getting married but having a baby being a baby mama now she is stuck documenting her life by being on live saying she won't leave a place that she is being asked to leave by the man. Then lied to her followers stating they met at church, and all the women saying they need to go to church to meet a man and whole time what she portrayed online was not real... It's sad.
The best she can do is push on through and love on herself and that baby...file for child support. Realize her mistakes and learn what love should look like and feel can't. #Ican't.
As a 47 y/o WM who lives in Atlanta and recently received a 5.2MM wealth transfer from my dads passing, Atlanta is ripe with beautiful, sexy , young , fit black women. I’m in a SB/SD relationship now with a 21 y/o BW but we have very clear rules and boundaries and expectations. Two things I had done before hand were to have a vasectomy and made sure she had a full battery STD test performed. If clear expectations are set then it can be mutually beneficial for both involved.
I prefer a Sugar Daddy who gets sex from his wife and his side chick while keeping it fun and platonic out in the open because I don't want him touching me. Other than that no thank you sir.
Good for you bro! But more women need to see such admissions of john-ing. All these women running around trying to be the best woman for men who, when they can afford it, will be the biggest pay to players.
@@sandycheeks1580 I actually agree with this which is why I would never reveal my identity and you are exactly right in that attaching an identity to public assets can definately make someone a target.
Yeah you can hear him say in their argument that he did a background check on her and found her husband and did a background on the husband he also mentioned he was in the military so he can find out anything he wants , he felt betrayed and used and he chose to do something about it that’s all
Unfortunately, we live in a day and age where women are willing to risk embarrassment and play with an innocent unborn child’s life …as long as they gain whatever they want. That lady knew EXACTLY what she was doing.
I haven’t seen this story. But it sounds like a naive girl got involved in “ the game “ without understanding the rules. Being a baby is a hustle/business. You can’t be out here impressed and swooning. You have to have a skill set, plan, and discipline. You’re an actress who plays a role and gets paid to do so. Once you can’t differentiate fantasy from reality you’re screwed. You are no longer controlling the situation or yourself. If you were hired to play a character in a film you’d understand it wasn’t real. It’s make believe. If you started believing you were really that character you’d need a psych evaluation. You get paid to be a fantasy.
She's not naive. She is married to a man in the military and has a daughter that she left in Africa. Pumpkin found out her lies, so he wants to break up with her now.
@@user-qg5jw1kb3r If you want to break up you walk away. You don’t record yourself having a temper tantrum. That man was out of control. If she isn’t naive, why have a baby with your suga daddy?
@@peacefreedom4930 A married woman who abandons her kid and tricks is not naive. Both her AND pumpkin are in the wrong. She thought she could get child support from him, but it backfired because she couldn't put her sugar daddy's name on the birth certificate as she is married to another man. That's how pumpkin found out.
@@user-qg5jw1kb3r Why are you calling a grown man “ Pumpkin “? If that’s his nickname it should tell everyone what kind of man this is and you’re just as crazy calling him that. What kind of grown man wants to be called Pumpkin? Ok she isn’t naive. She greedy and stupid. Are you happy?
I had a mixed friend who would show off now she live with her daughter cause her sugar daddy that she was married to for a few years divorced her and left her with nothing. Now she looks old in the face. She had to go get a 9-5😅
Thank you for your wisdom. Learnt from you few years back that Sugaring is a psychological game, it’s serving me well. Men can feel intentions. 😅lmao at bird is that on cue with the feathers?
I think women like this be so thirsty for likes and trying to brag, and not being smart about whatever their arrangement was. No one needs to know, that's usually the #1 problem, telling the internet. Definitely a lack mindset, she should have saved a lot of money, but she was probably thinking he would marry her if she had a baby. If you're gonna be a sugar baby, get on birth control and take it faithfully! Save money, fix your credit, get a degree, start a business, assets in your name, not his, he can easily take it back.
She didn’t have an ending or an actual goal in mind in order to end the relationship respectfully. The ex wife gave her a clue and she didn’t use it. She didn’t take anything into consideration before having that baby. And that’s what’s very cringe about it. Now she’s got a baby by some raggedy borderline racist scumbag. My heart breaks for the child.
i remember her. she refused to tell people which country she is from. she would clean and go to the dry cleaners. she was the help that he was sleeping with! unreal. not shocked but sad anyway
Ladies... If you're going to be a sugar baby make sure you choose one who feels Lucky to have you. That normally looks like YOU being the Prize 🏆 not him! He looks like he cares too much about his appearance. You gotta get one that you can Humble if need be... Old fat and ugly or old ugly and short is your best bet 😊😅 #seriously
She better leave that man alone and go far away from him start over but focus on herself and her baby and make sure she gets a legal block on him from contacting her or the baby because misery loves company as soon as she 'level up' if she does and he sees she is happy and moving up in life he will want to take that child or make problems over the child just to remain relevant, bitter and spiteful
Whole situation is gross and I really need y'all to stop saying how "sweet" she is - none of y'all know her, but what you do know is she chose to bring another bastard baby into an unstable situation. That alone should tell you plenty about who she really is 🙄
The worst part is, she has yet to take FULL accountability in her part in all of this. Which means she hasn't fully learned her lesson yet. You know what they say, "A hard head makes a soft behind" and she's only seeing herself as a victim when throughout most of the relationship she was a willing participant. A clear example of this is him being a racist and her calling it out NOW, but I bet when that red flag was beginning to show earlier in their "relationship" she didn't care because she was blinded by the lifestyle and the trinkets he was providing. In my opinion, she doesn't seem that bright. She had no thought to save any of the money he was giving her? He was paying $1800 for her hair appointments alone and it didn't cross her mind to put $1000 away for a rainy day? He buys you a car (which he later repossess) but you don't think to tell him to put it in your name? Sis really came out of this deal with NOTHING to show for it but a baby and some bags, shoes, and clothes! I guess you can count her social media platform (which she can make money from) but THAT'S IT?! She literally played the game to lose in the end. She was not playing the game to win. Sorry to that girl 🤷🏾♀️
All that’s true except she should be able to collect child support.
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@@velvetpanther7032 I sure hope so, but her ex PUMPKIN HEAD alluded to her immigrant and visa status being in question (hopefully he's lying) and that could possibly affect her getting child support. I just hope at this point the odds and laws are in her favor.
I hope she can get child support but a bitter low down man if his status will find a way to wiggle out of it. I hope her visa isn’t in question because he can use that against her as well and try to get custody of the child.
She definitely has won the game aka permanent us residency via a vawa visa if she qualifies. The proof is in the pudding. Her evidence is documented. This girl is smarter than you think.
If a man’s ex-wife’s tells you her ex-husband is trash believe her. No, she is not bitter or jealous. She fell for fantasy and lived the reality. I hope this young woman got her degree and able to build a life for herself and child. Put that man on child support.
This whole ordeal was so sad to watch. Then her confidently thinking this WM won’t use his privilege to try and ruin her is foolish. She definitely did not move smart at all.
Child support asap
I stopped issuing sympathy to women who ignore the advice from prior exes of their partner. They always think their the chosen ones or different, just to play victim and naive when he shows you that you are no different and that he would do the same to you. Lesson learned for her but many of the women like her.
@@imo.124 I agree, but if she overstayed her visa, she will not likely attempt to get child support. As an immigration attorney, I see many ( most women) make this mistake. Unfortunate story!
Amen.
Ladies men are men. Be careful out here!
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That part!
I don’t believe in that “men are men “ bs chy please
Back in the 80s & 90s, the xtra sweet ladies were so silent. Whole mansions, college tuition, cars etc., ALL under the radar!
The craziest thing is she was probably doing the social media fronting for attention from other women. Showing off a narc to impress and flex for women that want your lie.
@@GoldSkyeBINGO!!
This man called her a sex worker, stated that it started off as a $600 transaction. He said he was scared of witches basically calling her a witch. I mean it's not worth the embarrassment. The Internet is forever.
I’m sorry y’all but how is this white man so clued up on witches and witchcraft😮 I can’t deal
@@blueorgin exactly
Thats why I always say have your own money. Dont have a man buying you your first anything. He should add to what you already have. He should be taking you to restaurants you take yourself. He should take you to vacation spots youre use to going to.Then, and only then will you have the advantage. IMO. Also, as Chloe said, keep your mouth shut. Why is that so hard to do?
This is so true👏
Absolutely!
staying silent is the new "quiet luxury"
Post trips to museums, parks etc fun times w friends, the sky, pets. Don't let anyone know your game, and how to out fox you. Also, post these locations well after you are gone from there for protection.
@@marig9236 No lies detected.
@@marig9236yes! At least 24-48 hours after you leave said location. been doing that for years. For safety purposes as well. I’m still sitting on vacation photos from months ago.
She could've first of all kept her sugar daddy and that part of her life private. invested that money, got herself some real assets like a house, expensive car or other valuable things that can be resold. And definitely not gotten pregnant.
This lady played herself. Sugar babies aren't supposed to get pregnant. Sugar daddies want fun with a young pretty woman, they're not signing up for fatherhood. She should have enjoyed the perks without giving him wife privileges. When living this lifestyle, stay off social media and make sure you get something valuable out of it like a free education. ROFLMAO, Mr. Stale Bread Pumpkinhead took me out! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
👏 say this for the people in the back!
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Its never safe to have a baby by a man that is not your husband and expecting to be wifed up just because you're pregnant .
She tried to use a pregnancy to guarentee her financial status but it back fired very badly for her
only in the past did men have to marry women when they got pregnant (shotgun weddings). this doesnt work anymore in this day and age
What could she have done differently? Kept the journey to herself & not have gotten pregnant. What could she do now? Capitalize on the wave of sympathy she'll be receiving. I imagine a lot of people are invested & want to see how it ends. She can write a book, and get invited to some talk shows to raise awareness about SB culture. Thanks, as always, Chloe_
#Facts
Not really it’s going viral because people are laughing not feeling bad for her. She parades this man around as if he is a prize was her downfall. Nobody wants to hear about how you lost your bag by being boastful
@keepitreal7723Honestly, then she would've never had any of these problems at all!
Damn he looks like Santa Claus
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Chile
Sugaring, prostitution, transactional ..just semantics! I would encourage young ladies to get skills and fund their OWN lives until marriage. Then she can choose a decent, provider man who doesn't make her want to throw up at the prospect of being intimate. This is called selling your souls ladies! P.S. I do love your content Chloe, keep them coming💛.
Always move in silence great Advise Chloé _
I’d have turned off my comments and operated my platform like a Hermès handbag boutique appointment (pay for behind the scenes detail, and even then curated). It’s strictly business with certain types of men. A man willing to pay for proximity to youthfulness like he was valued that above all else. The fantasy girlfriend vibe was to be private and solely for his overinflated EGO. He should have never been shown on her account, you don’t go around posting your credit card number- he should have been treated the same as way.
So we’ll said 🩷🩷🩷🩷💜
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"you don't go around posting your credit card number" True
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She should have kept her lifestyle to herself and not tried to make a tik tok following off of it. Move like Lori, in silence. I hate this for this woman.
Lori dnt move in silence though
Lori definitely moves in silence
@@SandraSews0108 if silence means jumping from man to man in full view of the internet, then I do not want it.
@melmel7011 but she not BROADCASTING IT is what I believe her point is...she doesn't have a podcast talking about her relationship.
@@melmel7011 I don’t want what this lady is selling in tik tok I’d prefer Lori’s hand. If I had to pick.
Rule number 1: don’t get pregnant 🫠
This is why if you wanna live this lifestyle:
1) know how they truly feel about you as a African/ African A. Women.
2) you gotta lay low low, this lifestyle isn’t for play play. They are with you on a fantasy. They don’t indulge for babies. Takes away from the fantasy. Keep that in mind always.
You are so correct about how desperate women are to display their lives on social media to get approval from others about their lifestyle. I don’t have an active social media account on social media for this exact reason. My life is private regardless of how good or not it is.
Ladies, sugar babies, get on birth control asap. a pill, a patch, something. these men ain't worth it and dragging an innocent child into what is most likely will be a mess, isn't the come up you think it is.
She def got pregnant very fast. They were only together a year. I’m almost sure he told her NoKids.
And protection
@@prettylifeprettywife7171 Its a hard pill I have to swallow, I know. But we all act like it takes one person to get pregnant. I know I know. But men should be held accountable too.
This feminist movement set women back. Everything is on us. Everything. Right or wrong, everything is on us. Ladies practice hypergamy in a strategic way! It's the only way!
Sleeping around in general is too risky; it backfires constantly and women are still not learning. There are better ways to make a living!
@@AyaEgbuho no ma’am I don’t want to hear it. As a women we can control pregnancy. I never wanted kids I met a lot of men that wanted kids by me or just anyone. Guess what. I’m 41 and labeled the rich auntie no kids. Please stop with that narrative as a women we absolutely have control over pregnancy even though it takes 2 to conceive. Just say a lot of the girls are irresponsible or afraid to tell these guys No. Bye!
Hi Chloe Most men are only willing to add on to your accomplishments he is not willing to build you from the bottom. The moment he sees that he will turn the money faucet OFF. Even as a SB you should always have your basics(income that supports your lifestyle FULLY we should not need to ask for money to pay gas bills, your own place, your own car, your own things that you do for fun things you do mentally and spiritually to feed your self, these are basics). When we have basics and maybe a little more most men have no problem investing in the ideas we bring to him. Please don’t ever let SD finance you fully he is going to let you fall HARD. Ok bye.
MEN PROVIDE!....FOR THE WOMEN THEY WANT FOR FUTURE!
@@iwhippedcreamcode4642 true!
Men also provide for women they have fun with and see no future.
Well said 😂! The illusion that the Vajajay can get them everywhere must stop ! Get a job girls stop waiting on somebody else money
@@saintongepierreyves3853 😉😝
I didn’t see any of this.. This sounds terrible. I do wish that older will help the younger understand why moving in silence at times. (Unless danger is involved)
Sugaring is no time for feelings or creating families. Women have to protect themselves and fertility.
Thank you for reiterating ALL men will do this and there’s no shortage of other races of men who will gleefully clown you once they’ve had enough of a woman.
Ladies I think it’s time to ask ourselves these questions:
1) Am I compatible with the Lifestyle I want
2) If not , am I willing to do the work
3) For how long
4) how high is my risk level
5) Am I aware of the image and reputation I will have if I get the lifestyle I desperately want
6) What are my strengths and weaknesses and how can I create a lifestyle I need and not always exactly the one I want …
I believe Chloe gave us so many cautionary tales to learn from that at some point we shouldn’t be wondering how to move anymore
I hope this lady in the video heals and thrive from this situation
Well said. ❤
I’m glad when I had my sugar pie there was NO social media around lol. Soon as he kept saying he was going to put a baby in me, I was out! ✌🏾absolutely not Sir!
absolutely not 😂!
👏 👏
You can tell who is new to the SB lifestyle or not having the finer things in life, and the audience of these women are also “hypergamous wannabes”. It’s embarrassing seeing grown women be so desperate to show off everything they have in life. She posted her daily lives and did nothing of substance except be a housewife and get pregnant.
Moving in silence is key especially as a bw! Mind you,this woman has a child & military husband back home💁🏽♀️... allegedly...
She should've been investing whatever $ she got from this yt man & refrained from doing wife/housekeeper duties 🤦🏽♀️🤡... wtf
Well Said!!
Yes
A situation like this is humiliating and degrading even if you are moving in silence. You still have to look yourself in the mirror. Also, this could've ended worse for her if this nasty guy was tick, tick, boom... she clearly is not safe with him. Not worth it to me.
You are spot on, I think in her case as humiliating is it might be the exposure is her security so that he can’t do the unthinkable. At least at this point he knows SM is watching and will call the police if she goes missing.
I had no idea pumpkin was that old. A man his age wearing a Gucci belt and versace shirt is the biggest red flag! He definitely came off as if he was in his 30's 😬
That's what I thought as well.
People get very addicted to the social nedia attention. It's a vicious cycle. I'm sorry to see this. But hopefully she bounces back! And moves out! Cause that child support is coming. And his aggressive abuse he is taping is not going to look good before the judge.
This video is so important
I heard about her story. I didn’t want to watch the videos to avoid major secondhand embarrassment. I hope she pulls through and comes out on top.
Using any man as a financial plan is dumb. Get your own money. Even being hypergamous that man is going to use his money against you. Men see money as power and power as control. Get your own money, stay in shape and stay pretty
YESSS!
A man is a MAN!! BLACK, WHITE, RED, BROWN, YELLOW, ETC...
She should have lived her life in private instead of showing this man off as if he’s some prize is how she lost her bag it always blows up in their faces by bragging about how a man introduced you to luxury. It’s only a flex when you can do it yourself. Better sell that Range Rover and get an apartment
Men and women are so jealous of women who have provider men even if that was her husband people would have something to say however she should’ve never had a baby or posted anything about him on social media a private life is a happy one If I gotta take a L I’m taking it in silence
You’re right Chloe, her biggest mistake was having a baby with a sugar daddy. It’s hard to believe she endured 9 whole months with him, & for what? First hand discriminatory embarrassment for you and your mixed baby (that he didn’t want)? Smh not worth it.
Chloe you outdid yourself with this one!! The truth mixed with an iconic read got me over here heart beating fast ash😂😂👏🏾
And the haters, lurkers and ear hustlers are so committed to finding the man and everything about regardless of the emojis u put on his face. I am always in awe of all the TikTok pages dedicated to “exposing” her, her man and their life. 🙄 I follow her but I’m not that invested. I just watch her videos and scroll past without giving her a 2nd thought
1. She should have taken care of birth control herself. Men never care about doing so and they always assume the woman will do it. Whatever you think of whose responsibility it is, you should always take care of yourself properly, including birth control.
2. She should have educated herself about the pros and cons of being a sugar and looked deep inside herself to discern whether she has the right mind set and emotional strength to just enjoy the lifestyle and not look for love. Men who become sugar daddies are NEVER interested in anything other than the transactional lifestyle and it's disrespectful to yourself and to them to expect that they will fall in love with you and you'll get the Pretty Woman lifestyle. No. If he enters into that kind of arrangement with you, he is not and never will be looking for the fairytale. And he will turn on you like a rabid dog if you break the agreement you two have. Pro tip: no matter how magnificent you are, you will NEVER change his mind. Stop being delusional about this fact.
3. She should have had some kind of contract drawn up before she became his sugar about what they both bring to the table and what each side expects. That way, it's in writing and nobody can cry foul and play the victim. Is this a cold, calculating way of going about things? Absolutely. But the relationship was only ever going to be a transactional one so a solid contract makes sense and protects both parties.
This young woman is a cautionary tale about what can happen when let your emotions rule your behaviour. It's a tough situation she's in but I can't really be too sympathetic because she let this happen (see point 1). I"m not saying he's blameless here, far from it. But as women our first duty and loyalty is to ourselves and we have to aim high on the "what do I deserve" scale. I'm not saying it's wrong to want the fairytale. I'm saying it's wrong to expect a transactional man to give it to you. There are plenty of loving, decent men wanting a family and who have a good income and will give you the life you want. But you have to be smart about it and don't let Hollywood romance brainwashing dictate how you treat yourself.
#Yes
Great commentary 💕
Isn’t she legally married to a BM and a has a child ? Nothing would save her , not even silence once he found this info out
If she is married, she documented her infidelity for her ex.
@@jojoone1099 it is said that her and husband , married for military benefits and were in cohoots together for this old man and his money
@@honeylamour1
Smh. That's even more reason for her to have not advertised the money she got from her John to that pimp. All of them seem horrible --- and lacking judgment.
The baby is her second child. I never seen her talk about or even show her first daughter. I assume she does not raise her herself.
@@honeylamour1 So this man is a victim. Did he not sign up on the sB site. Was he expecting exclusivity from a SB?
People gonna learn to keep their mouth closed…
In my opinion...he is getting everything he deserves. Assumimg she has always wanted to become a mother, this is the ultimate checkmate. So, now she gets a child she probably wanted anyway, a child who will be born as an
U.S. Citizen, AND more money in child support for 18 years than she was probably getting from him as a sugar baby. Now she gets the money without having to do or be anything for him at all. I don't feel sorry for men like this. But I do feel overall playing this type of game with males (of any income bracket) is a dangerous gamble.
She has another daughter she left in her home country, Gabon.
Very dangerous
She made him the prize hiding his face, showing hiw lucky she was. He should have never existed. Id be posting pics like i own the appt living my best life. He is YT, with money and patriarchy and clearly knows her secrets and unhinged. Dangerous situation for her. Women never learn that a child is a forever job, you don't trap a man, you trap yourself.
She should’ve got her money and dipped.
Never take a sugar daddy seriously unless he’s proves to be husband material.
Most people will never learn to be private. People say you should not judge a book by it's cover, but sometimes it's what yoi should do as triflin' and no good bum with cash is written all over that old fool's face. I understand there's exceptions to every rule wich is why you need to keep your eyes wide open, listen to your gut feelings all the time, pray for your discernment game to become stronger and to simply not try to hold on to a man by accidentally getting pregnant as too many women still engage in this thing. It is just too stupid and sad. I am mad at them both in this one. I am such a shy and private person that most folks don't even know my bf name. Even if this clown was angry at her, he didn't have to run to social media to involve the entire world. I also saw some comments about women getting their own cash so they don't have to get embarresed like that, wich is obviously from women with short memory , as a toxic man will find a million ways to humiliate you wether you make your money yourself or not.
Whew Chloe I was waiting on you to speak on this.
She should have protected her womb. She wasn’t paying attention to how he moves.
I have missed your commentary Chloe😊 welcome back❤
She knew the game very well and apparently has another child back in Africa and is already married. 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾 She was finessing the man as well and probably thought having a child would seal the deal or get more out of him. 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
Oversharing is never the move ladies!!!It doesn't matter what relationship we get in.
You explained the game brilliantly per usual!
Stale bread pumpkin head 😂😂😂
I also listen to the ex-partners, even if I wanted to continue into a relationship with the man in question. No ex is bitter about someone who is out of their life; is doing better without them or even happier with less. They both are in the wrong but I hope she comes out on top as he really told her about herself on a public platform without any grace. This man has no shame about playing house with a hoe, tramp, etc. Just because these men are older doesn't mean they are wiser, this will come back to burn him too. He took advantage of her as well, we all see him for what he is. They could have had a conversation in private but no they had it online. if I was anyone in the neighbouring community I wouldn't do any business with him or anyone associated with him as his community also agrees with his values. I think Cindy should plan her next move, sell all that she can and buss an move. She's a very beautiful woman and will find another man to come and look after her and her child without any doubt. Get a hard drive and save everything to use in court!
You are ABSOLUTELY on point and she should take accountability, cut her loses and walk away !!
Keep your mouth close until u seal the deal… or when ur out of the game
My uber driver is going through the same thing her kids are 6 and 4. Nasty long drawn out divorce the man is trying to pull the rug from under her leaving her high and dry. Thia can happen to anyone saint and siiners.
Excellent Commentary Chloe _
Stale bread pumpkin head 🤣🤣😭🤣😭
🤣🤣🤣
Why Is Your Lovelife On Soc Media? Food for thought! "Mr Stale Bread" ..Lol
Can turn a pimp into a prince
And tbh Caressha isn’t winning with that stream show. It makes Diddy money and he can take it away at any moment.
I’m sorry but she’s silly af to have a baby in this situation. What sugar baby actually has a baby with her sugar daddy? 🙃 This man is 57 he isn’t trying to be a father and yes, it’s his responsibility not to get her pregnant but she’s definitely going to suffer more from this. Silly, silly silly! 🤦🏿♀️
I wonder why the negative comments get so much love. When I gave the positive perspective there was only one person who responded. I'm different. I have always went against the grain, thought for myself and spoke up when things didn't seem right. I never been popular for this reason. I used to feel bad about this but now I realize it's a blessing to have a mind of my own.
I knew something was wrong when she stated that he wanted to marry her and she said no, but then turns a round a gets knocked up with no ring. To me she knew he wasn't fir for marriage but the fact that she thought he was fit to be a dad???? Then he practically abandoned her while being pregnant. It's sad. Then she got mad when people were commenting that it made no sense living that lifestyle by not getting married but having a baby being a baby mama now she is stuck documenting her life by being on live saying she won't leave a place that she is being asked to leave by the man. Then lied to her followers stating they met at church, and all the women saying they need to go to church to meet a man and whole time what she portrayed online was not real... It's sad.
The best she can do is push on through and love on herself and that baby...file for child support. Realize her mistakes and learn what love should look like and feel can't. #Ican't.
As a 47 y/o WM who lives in Atlanta and recently received a 5.2MM wealth transfer from my dads passing, Atlanta is ripe with beautiful, sexy , young , fit black women. I’m in a SB/SD relationship now with a 21 y/o BW but we have very clear rules and boundaries and expectations. Two things I had done before hand were to have a vasectomy and made sure she had a full battery STD test performed. If clear expectations are set then it can be mutually beneficial for both involved.
I prefer a Sugar Daddy who gets sex from his wife and his side chick while keeping it fun and platonic out in the open because I don't want him touching me. Other than that no thank you sir.
Good for you bro! But more women need to see such admissions of john-ing. All these women running around trying to be the best woman for men who, when they can afford it, will be the biggest pay to players.
@@stanis6543 He was a dog so touche'
@@sandycheeks1580 I actually agree with this which is why I would never reveal my identity and you are exactly right in that attaching an identity to public assets can definately make someone a target.
@@t.j6433 I dont disagree
She didnt tell him she is currently married with a child by another man, and he found out and went off, who wouldnt!!!
Wow really????? So this may just be the actions of a hurt man???
He's paying her for zecxs. Lots of 304s are married. Imagine going into a 304 house expecting exclusivity from the 304s
Yeah you can hear him say in their argument that he did a background check on her and found her husband and did a background on the husband he also mentioned he was in the military so he can find out anything he wants , he felt betrayed and used and he chose to do something about it that’s all
You FXxxxxxx Right 👍
Unfortunately, we live in a day and age where women are willing to risk embarrassment and play with an innocent unborn child’s life …as long as they gain whatever they want. That lady knew EXACTLY what she was doing.
Here in Africa people are given to snakes in the name of sugaring
Let me guess, you’re from Nigeria...
He’s a sugar daddy. Not a baby daddy.
She should the used protection or made him pay for her abortion. And also had several sd’s not just one
How are you a Sugar Baby and intentionally getting pregnant? 🥴🤦🏽♀️
🤔 Lil Baby should have kept her mouth shut and contraception tight!
I haven’t seen this story. But it sounds like a naive girl got involved in “ the game “ without understanding the rules. Being a baby is a hustle/business. You can’t be out here impressed and swooning. You have to have a skill set, plan, and discipline. You’re an actress who plays a role and gets paid to do so. Once you can’t differentiate fantasy from reality you’re screwed. You are no longer controlling the situation or yourself. If you were hired to play a character in a film you’d understand it wasn’t real. It’s make believe. If you started believing you were really that character you’d need a psych evaluation. You get paid to be a fantasy.
She's not naive. She is married to a man in the military and has a daughter that she left in Africa. Pumpkin found out her lies, so he wants to break up with her now.
@@user-qg5jw1kb3r If you want to break up you walk away. You don’t record yourself having a temper tantrum. That man was out of control.
If she isn’t naive, why have a baby with your suga daddy?
@@peacefreedom4930 A married woman who abandons her kid and tricks is not naive. Both her AND pumpkin are in the wrong. She thought she could get child support from him, but it backfired because she couldn't put her sugar daddy's name on the birth certificate as she is married to another man. That's how pumpkin found out.
@@user-qg5jw1kb3r Why are you calling a grown man “ Pumpkin “? If that’s his nickname it should tell everyone what kind of man this is and you’re just as crazy calling him that. What kind of grown man wants to be called Pumpkin?
Ok she isn’t naive. She greedy and stupid. Are you happy?
I had a mixed friend who would show off now she live with her daughter cause her sugar daddy that she was married to for a few years divorced her and left her with nothing. Now she looks old in the face. She had to go get a 9-5😅
Thank you for your wisdom. Learnt from you few years back that Sugaring is a psychological game, it’s serving me well.
Men can feel intentions.
😅lmao at bird is that on cue with the feathers?
Why on earth would she so stupidly have a child for the man, when she intentionally and boastfully went into the game for his money?? 😒
I think women like this be so thirsty for likes and trying to brag, and not being smart about whatever their arrangement was. No one needs to know, that's usually the #1 problem, telling the internet. Definitely a lack mindset, she should have saved a lot of money, but she was probably thinking he would marry her if she had a baby. If you're gonna be a sugar baby, get on birth control and take it faithfully! Save money, fix your credit, get a degree, start a business, assets in your name, not his, he can easily take it back.
She definitely IS smart. She documented everything.
She didn’t have an ending or an actual goal in mind in order to end the relationship respectfully. The ex wife gave her a clue and she didn’t use it. She didn’t take anything into consideration before having that baby. And that’s what’s very cringe about it. Now she’s got a baby by some raggedy borderline racist scumbag. My heart breaks for the child.
Agreed
Never heard of them but now I want to tea!!! I can never understand people boasting on the internet. Please change like green lizard easily
I'm not going to be nobody's sugar daddy nomatter how old I am. I believe in true love and don't want a sugar baby either.
She is still young I feel pity she seems like a sweet girl. She is not the first now the last. She will improve
She can put him on child support and go abt her life
i remember her. she refused to tell people which country she is from. she would clean and go to the dry cleaners. she was the help that he was sleeping with! unreal. not shocked but sad anyway
I was waiting for you to give your point of view on this catastrophe.
At least her first child isnt around for pumpkin's wraith. Bc he does not care.
Ladies... If you're going to be a sugar baby make sure you choose one who feels Lucky to have you. That normally looks like YOU being the Prize 🏆 not him! He looks like he cares too much about his appearance. You gotta get one that you can Humble if need be... Old fat and ugly or old ugly and short is your best bet 😊😅 #seriously
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Howling, but #Facts
She better leave that man alone and go far away from him start over but focus on herself and her baby and make sure she gets a legal block on him from contacting her or the baby because misery loves company as soon as she 'level up' if she does and he sees she is happy and moving up in life he will want to take that child or make problems over the child just to remain relevant, bitter and spiteful
Such a tragedy, but you can't get into any kind of relationship putting your desperation foot forward.
😢 w/o words
Whole situation is gross and I really need y'all to stop saying how "sweet" she is - none of y'all know her, but what you do know is she chose to bring another bastard baby into an unstable situation. That alone should tell you plenty about who she really is 🙄
They deserve each other ……🥴
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...the eyelash brushing clip bothered me so much 😹