Dashrajna War of the Rigveda - The First Epochal War of India
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- We often wonder about the origins of the word Bharat (भारत).
The earliest traceable origin of the word goes back to Rigveda, to be more precise, to the epochal Dāśarājña war? In the war, a king named Sudās from the Bharata (भरत) clan emerged victorious.
Dāśarājña war is the earliest recorded war in Indian history, and its memories are found in various mandalas of Rigveda.
On the occasion of the 75th Independence day of India, we bring you one of the very first public talks on the Dāśarājña war, which is delivered by Dr. Mugdha Gadgil
Dear ma, I'm from Malaysia and have just found your channel. I am proud that you are also one of the many Hindus who are involved in enlightening Hindus like me about Bharat and its history. I wish you many success and hope there will be more enlightened souls like me in Bharat as well as throughout the world. We need to re-write Bharat's history books so that children from a young age will know how great a civilization Bharat was. Thank you and god bless all who have contributed towards this video.
Why are you in Malaysia. You should come back to India. Tis is typical NRI fraud. They stay where the money is. Incidentally why should we re write ? Good historians have been working on this project. Who have you read. Please dont try to turn India into a Malaysia where religion rules. India is a secular democracy. Be a Hindu in your temple and try and get rid of the caste system. Dont bring fake pride into this. What this short presentation tells us was that there were lots of wars, killing and full of violence by local chieftains as they tried to control an collect taxes. How is that a great civilization ? Get a real life.
@@ladusingh2141 totally agree..
I am all for pride in our past but I would be careful not to rest in false sense of greatness or superiority by thinking about “what a great civilization Bharath was”.. if we are to be worthy inheritors of Santana Dharma we must prove it with current actions and not resort to low form of human behaviors such as tribalism (i.e., believing me and my kind are better)
Triggered you moron. Rituals and prayers are carried out in mandirs and shivaya and all those born in India are Hindus among which are those who follow the sanatan dharma. If a guy is feeling proud of his ancestors who are you to stop him. India secular?since when?
@@avkash5142 thanks for revealing your stupidity without any attempt at a filter. Do you know the difference between 'yagna' and 'puja' . The first temples in India are in the 3rd and 4th century AD. The rig vedic period was all about Yagna. Please do deep reading if you want to be proud of a very rich and complex tradition. If you want to be serious then learn about your roots as an intellectual not as a fanatic. If you dont want to be a Hindu Taliban then take the time and make the effort to read good histories. My humble advice, there is a lot to feel proud and connected to about India but the true India is available to the scholar and the student not to a fanatic and someone who has no intention to learn. Dont turn something beautiful and revealing into mud on which you wish to grow hate.
First heard about this from Abhijit Chavda who has kept making references to this war as important. you have provided a scholarly explanation. Thank you 🙏
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You may not agree with his views, but neither can you deny that he is a respected authority on the subject. I also don't think he is anti-hindu. Some of his interpretations may not be palatable to some of our views or maybe wrong or inaccurate.
Sarathyji you are being silly. How can you have a nation without a constitution. The rig vedas were all about wars between tribes ? Why were they fighting if there was a nation. There were fighting over territory and hunting rights. And trying to dominate people. Ky yaar. Make sense of your life. Thanks to babasaheb Ambedkar's constitution India is now civilized. We have become citizens within a political boundary. Kingdoms and empires only have frontiers, the king controls his subjects. Women have no equal rights and there is usual loot every post monsoon season. Is this the nation of ancient India. I think not. Dont be religious when it come to history. Otherwise you will become Taliban.
I am from Bangladesh like to hear you about Hinduism. Your every effort giving me enormous joy and enthusiasm. Thank you ma'am. God bless you and keep the spirit up 🙏,
If you want to see more scientific approach,do watch nilesh oak.
@@anonymous-ui8xw Nilesh oak is another nut case. He has no official degree nor has he published in any peer reviewed journals. He is part of the Right wing ecosystem. Those desperately searching for way to end reservations and somehow stop the decline of the upper castes in India, listen to him hoping against hope. Thats all. RUclips made these clowns possible. No university will entertain their crap
@@ladusingh2141 hey man,when did i say that he has found the truth? I'm a seeker,i don't believe that even he has found the right answer,yet it's essential to keep seeking in order to get closer to the truth.
Civilizations may have existed 12,000 years ago.crater near Greenland was capable of causing floods of global scale.we humans are still not aware of many such things just because of our ignorance. Let's not fight over who's right or wrong. I just mentioned his name because i liked his work nothing more.
@@anonymous-ui8xw If you are seeker, which I am sure you ar why Nilesh Oak ? Why not some serious scholars like Romila Thapar, Upinder Singh, Nayanjot Lahiri or the fabulous work of B.D. Chattapadhyay. One of my favourites is Sudipta Sen's book titled , Ganga. This goes from geological time to the British period. It is a brilliant book and was originally published by Yale University Press. Sudipta teaches at UC Santa Cruz. A real scholar not Oak who is a joke
@@ladusingh2141 have they covered anything on potential pre ice age civilizations or made attempt to even invalid graham hancock? I'd gladly watch them if they have.
Ma'am naman to you for enlightening us. We were taught in NCERT books that in India we did not have a concept of a nation. It came from Europe.
Complete no sense, never ever believe a single word from NCRT. We were the craddle of civilization. Small small kingdoms, like states today we're interconnected into the biggest civilization in human history. All these knowledge are deliberately hidden from you. I'll tell you this, Watch ABHIJIT CHAVDA CHANNEL ON RUclips. YOU WILL KNOW TRUE INDIAN HISTORY.
Our concept of nation is Raastra, a civilisation, where there are different people who speak different languages but are binded by civilisational values like cyclical birth moral code of dharma etc, so even though there were different kings ruling small Rajyas but the rastra was one and still is one but the Western concept of the nation-state, which all modern nations follow is based on the revisionist idea of one ethnicity, one language one state idea. This is the fundamental difference that ncert deliberately omitted.
NCRT is a propaganda.a propaganda against hindus of this country, they vandalised real history of BHARAT.
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Are you Foolish Virgins by believing that False Educational Syllabus of Macaulay of British Christianity who openly talked many things about to defeat Hindu Religious Educational System of our Ancient Bharath ?
Puran = 10 lakshanas including Vamsa Charitham especially Soorya Vamsa and Chandra Vamsa. It's not Hi(s)-Story.
But its Dyna(sty)-Story.
Falsely interpreted English translations are used to Fool our people through their Colonial's False Educational System.
Yithihasas are only Hi(s)- Stories of Rama and Krishna.
According to this Rule the Bible Ot is not Vedha but its Purana, Dyna(sty)-Story of Adamaha @ Adam of Bhavishya Puranam, Prathisarga Parvam, Chathuryuga kantaapara paryaya, Dhwapara Nrupa Upakhyanam.
And the Bible NT is Yithihasa, the Hi(s)-Story of Jesus Christ.
Quran is also a type of Puran(am);
You can easily understand by changing the First letter P into Q which are already known that later comes after the former in English Alphabets.
@@sarvasreesathyanandhanaath7940 Quran is false and also bibel...
Let Bharat win this war of Light against darkness, of Truth against falsehood, of Ananda against suffering, of Immortality against death.
what?? 😅.. then india was existing. just some aryan tribes fighting between them.
it's not even the size of india. may be it occupied present day pujab region.
@@Ak-qq2levideo to dekh leta lodu pura
I lament my proficiency in English, and feel sad that I could not master Sanskrit being born in Bharatavarsha 😌
"Prachina Bharata" must be a compulsory subject in schools from 1std to 12th. Hope there is a syllabus structure available.
You mean Ancient India.
Yes but its taught only in college only for ancient history majors
@@koteswar009 Right. So I am saying that it should be taught from 1st standard onwards. Vedic civilization topics to be taught right from class 1 onwards. Only then the next generation will know and Vedic civilization teachings will sustain. Vedic civilization was more civilized than our current society.
@@satishtalikota1217 How is Vedic civilization more civilized than current society? We today are in a better place, 2000 years ago, you wouldn't have any of the comforts or equipment you have today, it would be harder to survive and you could die of diseases.
I love my country's rich history and respect my ancestors and the Vedic civilization but technologically and economically we are in a better place than them.
Satishji you are being silly. How can you have a nation without a constitution. The rig vedas were all about wars between tribes ? Why were they fighting if there was a nation. There were fighting over territory and hunting rights. And trying to dominate people. Ky yaar. Make sense of your life. Thanks to babasaheb Ambedkar's constitution India is now civilized. We have become citizens within a political boundary. Kingdoms and empires only have frontiers, the king controls his subjects. Women have no equal rights and there is usual loot every post monsoon season. Is this the nation of ancient India. I think not. Dont be religious when it come to history. Otherwise you will become Taliban.
It is how we need to reconnect and represent. I am ready to 🙋♀️ volunteer.
Thank you ma'am. 😊
More such short and lucid lectures on different aspects of the vedas are needed.
I am watching the videos of Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute and found each video highly educational. I am deeply indebted to you Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute!
Its great to take a deep dive into Rig Ved and understand about its most important Puru king Sudas. Would be great if Rig Ved can be explained Chronologically and also with timelines?
Sudas was not a puru king
@@mithileshkumar-rt4yt Yes Sudas was part of the Bharata tribe which would later end up creating the Kuru kingdom.
@@mithileshkumar-rt4yt Sudas was Puru king. King Dushyant is a Puru king and Sudas was born in Bharat clan/vansh. Yayati was father of Puru. Please see family tree of Puru or king Yayati from harivansh. Thanx.
@@anirudh177 DONT USE WORD TRIBE RESERVE THIS COINAGE FOR EURO ARCHAIC ONES !
@@anybody9059 Why not? In the early Vedic period, Tribes and Clans were the political entities, With he formation of the Kuru Kingdom, the first proper kingdom came into existence.
And what is "Euro Archaic Ones"?
Also why is using Tribe offensive or wrong? Tribe doesn't mean anything bad.
Amazing didn’t know bori was on yute. Subbed. What an amazing day I found this channel and heard this wonderful explanation. My mind is filled with wonder about my ancestors.
Thanks and welcome
Why wonder? Its just about war and killing and Little chiefs trying to become rajas how is that interesting? Get real, India had a wait a while before it got civilization
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The woman in the video is the FIRST Bhāratavarśi I’ve ever heard who pronounces the word correctly.
😇 सत्यमेव जयते! 😇
Dr. Mugdha Gadgil mam, very interesting and informative talk on Dashragna war. Dashragna war is a historical event recorded in Rigved. Hitherto, Rigved was considered as religious text of Indians. But Dashragna war proves antiquity and historicity of Rigved and other vedic texts. My take on Dashragna war is -
1. When vedas were compiled by maharshi Vyas, he could get only few ritchas and references, it proves that war had taken place in antiquity that it had faded from public memory (from shruti, smruti, puran and etitas इतिहास).
2. From the names of ancient tribes and clans it can be said that war had taken place in pre vedic era. And it proves that Indra and Varuna are not vedic gods, but they existed in pre Vedic era, too. (Prevedic gods are Mitr, Pushan, Bhag and Varun. Indra was getting promience in that era as a god of war).
3. If you see story of king Yayati in puranas, it said he had five sons, Puru, Yadu, Druhu, Turvasu and Anu. King Yayati gave his kingdom to Puru. These are nothing but five ancient clans existed in pre vedic era.
4. Though king Sudas is from Bharat clan, king Bharat himself is from Puru clan/tribe. So king Sudas is a Puru-Bharat king.
5. Dashragna war took place in two stages on bank of Parushni and on banks of Yamuna.
6. There is no evidence to consider that it was war of priests. Before Vishwamitr, Bharadwaj was guru of king Sudas. When Vishwamitr was removed and Vasisth became guru of Sudas, Vishwamitr accepted it (his sacking) and did nothing against bharat king, Sudas.
6. Gurus were advisors to king in all affairs including war. There is a mention of flood in Parushni and drowning of enemy (albeit by prayers to Indra). Here it is interesting to note that Purashni, Shatadru and all rivers in Punjab are high flowing rivere. And to divert their waters for irrigation stone bunds or check dams are created on river bank to obstruct flowing water. This obstructed water is taken through canals, these bunds are called as Pur( and Indra is Purandar). Under Vasistha's guidance these check dams were broken by Sudas, creating artificial flood and drowning of enemy.
7. Vedic India spread from present Hariyana to Afghanistan, Persia, Parthia, present Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Caspian sea to Anatolia (* research by Shrikant Talger on linguistics of Rigved and Avesta).
These were just few points.
Thank you very much for your lecture on Dashragna war. 🙏🙏
Very detailed comment. Thanks for sharing
Crisp and great presentation by mugdha ma'am. Thank you BORI.
Look forward to more of such sessions from BORI.
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Bori kon hai ye
Amazing to have picked up on views like this... It was around thousand only in first week, so happy to see how well people have received this priceless video of yours... Bhartiyas around the globe are searching to know their true history a d you are giving them that with such videos...
I hope and pray that you would continue these efforts of yours..
Thank you madam for the wonderful presentation. We need more such insightful content to connect with our long forgotten past.
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Speaker Dr. Mugdha is clear, lucid, methodical in her analysis and fluid in her presentation. Easy to follow and comprehend, even for a layperson like myself. Thank you very much.
‘Uttaram yat samudrasya, Himadreshchaiva dakshinam, varsham tad bharatam nama, Bharatee yatra santatihi’.
Wow. I'm humbled. I will read the rig vedas in detail, myself.
Thank you.
Hey there!
Any update?
Indra had given a boon that only Vasishtas can invoke him, even today it is important for any priest from Vasishta gotra to be present while doing any yajna for Indra. So when Vasishta himself is invoking Indra for Sudas, the other side had no chance of winning the war.
According to Manu Smruthi Chapter III:197,198; Vasishtta is the Father of All Sudhras;
and also according to the verse असुर्यः शूद्र: of Thaithiya Brahmana all His children are Asuras.
And they born out of Asura Vivaha of Manu III:3;
And they are all not Eligible to do or participate in Yagjyas.
According to Yoni Thanthra V:16,17;
If they do Homas against the Codes of Manu they Became Chandalas themselves.
And also according to the following Scripture verse of Thaithiriy Samhitha
II:3:7.1- देवासुरा संयत्ता आसन् । देवान् असुरा अजयन् । ते देवाः पराजिग्याना असुराणां वैश्यं उपाऽऽयन् । तेभ्य इन्द्रियं वीर्यं अपाक्रामत् । तदिन्द्रः अचायत् । तदन्वपाक्रामत् । तदवरुधं नाशक्नोत् । तदस्मात् अभ्यर्धः अचरत् । स प्रजापतिं उपाधावत् । तमेतया *"सर्वपृष्टया"* अयाजयत् । तयैव अस्मिन् इन्द्रियं वीर्यं अदधात् ।।
- we came to understand that the Asuras of Su - Dhasa King Conquered the Army of Dhevas (The Angels) of Indhra with the Help of Vasishta the Father of Sudhra Race.
And by the Help of Prajapathi (of Bhrugu Race) Lord Indhra performed *"Sarvaprushtakhya Yishti"* and regained their Indhriyas and Veerya also to fight against the Asuras of Su-Dhasa and Vasishtta and their Armies.
Thus even today if any Hindu Kshathriya Brahmins of Kaasyapa, Aathreya, Vaiswamithra and Aangeerasa Race perform the same *"Sarvaprushtakhya Yishti"*, with the help of Bhrugu Vamsa Vipras of Bhargava Pravara Races;
They can regain their own Indhriyas and Veeryas to Conquer all the Asuras and Mleachas of the Whole World easily.
@@sarvasreesathyanandhanaath7940 I do not know that. need to check for myself. Revered Sir, he was talking about King Sudas not Shudras, the varna
Interesting. Out of curiostiy any refernce to this?
@@sanjayprasad2739 I am sorry, I dont recall the exact source. The story is mentioned in the episode about Trishanku, Trishanku first goes to his Kula Guru Vasishta to get him to ascend to heaven in his earthly body, Vasishta outright dismisses him, so, disappointed he seeks Vishamitra's help knowing he's at that point opposed to Vasishta. Vishwamitra plans a big yagya to send forth Trishanku to heaven in his earthly body, but knowing his intention, Indra does not attend the yagya even though he's invoked and offered havis. The ashwini brothers tell Vishwamitra that Indra has given a boon that he will only appear to receive his havis if Vasishta invokes him, So Jamadagni and Vishwamitra decide to bring in Shakti, son of Vasishta to the yagya, as technically he's also a Vashista. In the process SHakti dies and fearing that his yagya will be incomplete, Vishwamitra decides to send forth Trishanku to heaven without Indra's permission, but as we all know he's pushed down from the heavens and Vishwamitra enraged, proclaims 'anya Indra Karishyami', 'I will create another Indra', in this mayhem, out of fear of consequences it is said that Indra appeared and it was decided that Trishanku will live in his own loka ruling it, just like Indra.
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Dhasa is the End Title for Sudhra varna names according to Manu Smruthi Bhashya of Chapter 2:32;
Yama:
शर्म देवस्य विप्रस्य (सु-शर्म, सु-देवः)
वर्म त्राता च भूभुजः । (सु-वर्म, सु-त्राता)
भूति दत्तश्च वैश्यस्य (सु-भूति, सु-दत्त)
दासः शूद्रस्य कारयेत् ।। (सु-दासः)
Dhasa: Soodhrasya Karayeth ।
Also according to Vishnu Puranam
शर्मवत् ब्राह्मणस्योक्तं (सु-शर्म)
वर्मेति क्षत्रसंयुतम् । (सु-वर्म)
गुप्त - दासात्मकं नाम
प्रशस्तं वैश्य (सु-गुप्त) शूद्रयोः (सु-दासः) ।।
also.
Vasishtta was the Progenitor for All Sudhras according to Manu Smruthi 3:197,198;
And, Asmaka Son of Sau-Dhasas and Grand Son of Su-Dhasa got birth by Vasishtta Himself even according to Vishnu Puranam, Bhagavatha Puranam, and even Valmiki Ramsyana Also.
Vyasa The Great Grand Son of Vasishtta also gave Birth to Pandu and Dhrutharashtra of Lunar Dynasty according to Maha Bharatham, Vishnu Puranam, Bhagavatha Puranam,... etc.
There was a murder case against Vasishtta in the Royal Court of Sudhama Son of Pijaavana Filed by Viswamithra according to Manu Smruthi 8:110.
By such all the above mentioned references, and lot of other Scripture verses,
The Wise can conclude easily the Sudhras of Vasishtha Race Became Brahmins and Kshathriyas themselves by producing Chandala and Kshath Jathi Prathiloma by Royal Queens and all other Brahmin women and Destroyed the Purity of Varna Asrama Dharma and Developed the Adharmik Kaliyuga of Sudhras.
This was the Fact.
But all the 18 Puranas, Maha Bharatham and Modern Vedhas of Dhwapara Yuga end time, was Compiled by Vedha Vyasa of The Vasishtta Vamsa itself.
Thus no one can trace out the Evil Unrighteous Adharmic Works of that Sudhra Varna without the Help of Manu Smruthi 3:197,198.
Lord God Almighty knows everything about these Truth facts and He Finally going to Punish Each and every one of those Culprits at the Final Battle Field of Kalki Deva of Kasyapa Pravara according to Bhavishya Puranam verses.
So let us try to keep Quite and Eagerly Await for that Final Battle hereafter with Righteous Wise Prayers.
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We have a large village by the name Ajas in Bandipora district on the banks of Wular lake in Kashmir valley.
10 main tribes with Viswamitra, against Vashishtha and King Sudas. It’s a battle between Vashistha and Vishwamitra.
They say Vashistha defeated Viswamitra’s army by destroying a dam on Ravi river which causes flood and considerable damage to his army. They say Vashistha invoked Indra and Indra might have caused the thunder and the lightning which eventually destroyed the dam on Ravi river and caused flood.
Not tribes they were Clans
Tribe is illogical word .
So vishwamitra was the grandfather of bharata but fights against bharatas ?
@@tanukabanerjee1731 no, there was a king called Bharat after whom this country was named as Bharat. After the loss, Vishwamitra again comes back to inner part of Bharat and becomes brahmarshi
@@millennialmind9507 thanks for the clarification
Very informative and interesting talk. Thanks for organising this. Please do more such episodes. It is so difficult to get well presented and articulate talks on such topics. A special thank you to Mugdhaji were this excellent presentation.
An action-packed film can be made on Dasrajana war
Thankyou madam for this lecture. We have read enough of this topic so far in books and on internet, but the way this lecture has brought it down to us with right references, collation of information and interpretation is best so far. It is in its purest form. Thank you once again.
Excellent analysis mam, very enlightening, nowhere you tried to determine a particular interpretation, no conclusions offered. 👏👏
A very interesting and scholarly lecture on Dashrajna War released on the occasion of the 75th Anniversary of our Independence. While Vedas have always been considered as religious or ritualistic or spiritual hymns, the aspect that it is also sometimes a recording of our ancient history is a revelation to me. Thank you for this. May the efforts of BORI continue to enlighten Indians to know their glorious past and true lineage, not as told to us by the Western historians.
All Glories to Mahadeva!
Ours is the only race who don't know our roots inspite of rich literature and culture. Facts were put in dark accidentally or deliberately also we don't know
Thanks for the recent efforts made by both our scholars and the western intellectual.
We hope this information ought to be included in the school syllabi atleast now onwards.
Dear madam aatmanamaskaram to you. Our original culture and history was blocked by Western society . I am very thankful for your kind information to modern society and students of history.
A great talk based on the strength of Vedic scriptures. Very informative and quite interesting also. Thanks madam for your wonderful talk as you took us to Vedic Era. Please come again with such videos to enlighten us.
Please do a complete series if possible covering pre vedic, vedic , post vedic India in terms of its spiritual nature, culture, military, science , art etc.
There is no pre vedic, post vedic period. Vedas are eternal
@Abhinandan Zambare of course, you believe max muller more.
@Abhinandan Zambare internet aanese gadhe badh Gaye Hai. Vedas are not books. Pehle yeh samajhna chahiye. Itihaas aur puran history books ki Tarah hai ved nahi. Internet me koyi bhi kuch bhi bole woh sahi nahi ho Jaata
@Abhinandan Zambare ...
Hey man you should never believe in Internet...
"Vedas are eternal religious books"
@@vy9076 you are sounding like muslims and cristians. be logical. this guy is saying pre-vedic history.. i.e. before 2000 BC.. don't mix religion blindness into history. keep them seperate. ( if you want to believe vedas are etarnal.. it's upto you. but don't think those hymns are eternal 🤣)
VERY interesting! Excellently presented, thank you madam & BORI.
Thanks for the clear and precise analysis and exposition, along with references! Very enjoyable & informative!
Dr.Mugdha is a wonderful and learned speaker!
Thank you so very much for uploading this 🙏🙏🙏
An excellent presentation. Informative
Thanks 🙏
One of the best videos on vedic times. so glad to have found your channel.
Great insights! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, ma'am!
Excellent, impartial and informative talk. Thanks for this sharing of knowledge.
Interesting and informative, can we have Vedas being taught in schools across India, so that we understand ourselves and our roots better. Time to spread vedas to masses!!
We were taught Vedas in school from class 1 to 12, also college till PG.
What part of the vedas you want to learn in school ? It is just war, violence and tribes fighting with each other. If that is civilization for you then what can one say. Clearly no Taj Mahal being built. All of them just busy hinting these vedic people. Thanks to babasaheb Ambedkar India got a constitution and became free of kings and their petty wars. Vedic period is over.
Whatever it may be, this is what we are, our history, our culture, our roots, our identity in this world!!
@@ladusingh2141 Sadly people who don't read Sanskrit Vedas think its useless and only stories of wars. I never came across wars and I studied with translation, interpretations. Even early 20th century quantum physics people found inspiration in it, Erwin Schrodinger
Yes. We are thankful to Dr Ambedkar for constitution or else people want full Sharia law like they still have for civil cases. Luckily Vedas were never as rule of book like others. There is student teacher relationship, metaphysics, philosophy of life, inner discovery of oneself, that we should be grateful to nature for giving us everything, universal well being even to those who are not known and another faith unlike two major Abrahamic religions that say non believers will burn in hell.
Maybe you are confused with Puranas that have more stories of war, etc.
And as scientist I will read everything with a pinch of salt and not blindly accept everything unlike others like TALIBAN who want to strictly follow their book. Sadly in India, abroad people support their ideology openly. Luckily we had Dr Ambedkar who prevented that.
@@koteswar009 you know you should stop fooling yourself. Can you tell me which sanskrit texts have inspired which scientist in what way? Please dont give me bubble gum history. The Indian constitution by the way was influenced by western traditions including the Irish constitution. Give me one instance where anyone wanted Sharia law in India. This is the BJP RSS habit of lying. Stop it. And you claim to be scientist? Babasaheb Ambedkar wrote in the Annihilation of Caste what Hindusim is really about: social exclusion. Who asked Eklavaya to chop off his finger ? Dont act all innocent about the dirty role of caste and how dalits were forced to clean upper caste shit and denied education. Thanks to the University of Columbia and LSE Babasaheb was given an education. In India we know who washed statues with milk after he inaugurated them. Why do you people lie to yourself. The Mahabharat and Ramayan are all about war, violence and trading women in a dice game. And lots of hunting with bow and arrow. What philosophy you want from it ? Indian Taliban is in Hathras and In UNA and the yogi government parading in saffron and lynching Muslims. Same upper caste have no qualms about going to the US for Green card even though America is a solid beef eating country. No Hindu has ever been murdered in a communal riot in the Gulf and I know so many upper caste buying property in Dubai. Modi and Shah are a curse because they allow you upper caste to lie to yourself. Stop it. The Taliban is you, just another version of hate and lies.
It's our duty to make the reach of the channel to more numbers...its true hardcore learning channel about Bharat...That will help her to enhance the production quality in future..
Very very ancient knowledge in such a simple way .
Keep it up mam one day this knowledge will make you popular 🙏
Very nice explanation of the dasharajna war . Please go on with other subjects from 4 veda.
It was very thorough. Beautiful...
Many Pranaams to the lady for her exposition and erudition. I am 81+. She is modern day Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan. My blessings
Grand. It's a great help to make people know the truth preserved in vedas... Thanks.
Son of rishabha, Bharata mentioned in the srimad bhagwatam was after whom Bharata was named. Before him Bharat was called illavarta varsha.
Thanks for pointing this out. Some of the comments indicate folks are confused or so not know about the distinction between King Bharata, son of Rishaba deva, and King Bharata, son of Dushyanta.
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Very interesting and illuminating information. I got a distinct feeling that Tritsus did a lot of fighting on the behalf of Sudas. And they defeated or overpowered their opponents by doing some very effective water management. Tritsus deserve some more praise for their efforts. Please note that these are merely my impressions after watching this video.
Yes, so much fighting and war and killing and violence. So the Turkic invasions are not the beginning to violence. This country was overflowing with blood. Thanks to Babsaheb Ambedkar we have a constitution that ensures rights and democracy and all this upper caste violence is now illegal. Ancient India was just war. Nothing else. And hunting.
Hmm. Maybe they were skilled in early engineering in whatever form. Interesting theory.. The trtsus do appear to have had some special skills especially around river water flow management.
@@guharup early engineering is bows and arrows and painted gray ware pottery. Bhaiya there is no way to talk up hunter gatherers who were duelling most of the time and stealing each others cattle. Is that civilization. Maybe. at least the Mughals built the Taj Mahal and Humayuns tomb. That is class. The rig veda is all about ... inter tribal conflict.
@Abhinandan Zambare Mr No where person dont be so confused. Manuwadis are screwing dalits and OBCs. Take a side and fight for justice. This is not a TV programme where you can change channels. Faltu may time waste math kar.
@@ladusingh2141 you delusional brainwashed poor thing, triggered without even any intimation. Hatred make you so blind, that instead of taking pride in your ancient civilizational heritage, you're mocking it. I could've asked you whether you ever tried to learn the knowledge of the Rig Ved or not, whether read about the unspeakable atrocities the islamic invaders so proudly chronicled themselves, ever heard about the Kailash Temple of Illora, ruins of Humpi or not. But I won't, because that's not worth it. Deep down you know that you're wrong, but that's only making you frustrated. I feel sorry for you.
Wow everything brings me back to Ancient Bharat ❤
Beautifully articulated. This should kindle our quest for detailed knowledge about ancient Bharat, the Vedic Age. Dhanyavaadaha Bhagini!
Thanks madam for your research and speech. Surya, the main deity of the Veda, the Sun of Truth and Divine Consciousness, latent in the soul, prevail over mind,life, heart and body, now in possession of Vrtra, Anaryas. Then India will be spiritual leader of the world.
Rama had vasishta and vishwamitra as his gurus...how that fact can be tied to this? 9th July 3228 BCE is considered birth date of Lord Krishna .. but rig veda was chanted during Rama's time.who lived 1000s of years before krishna since Rama was in different yuga.... hence BCE 1600 being considered as rig veda composition date by some scholars who made this translation does not make sense
Very enlightening Dr. Magdha Gadgil.
Did anyone in India make a movie or tv series on this war? I hope someone like Rajamouli does. His dream project is Mahabharatha.
Thank you so much for this very educative lecture. A small doubt Ma’am. Was that Prof. Michael Witzel of Harvard that you were quoting? How did he find a place among such reputed scholars of our own soil, who are so highly respected for their integrity and fearless dedication to the spirit and truth of their avocation?
I do not mean to be disrespectful, but sincerely feel there is a lack of good intention towards all that is Bharathiya among many sponsored academic chairs of univerities alien to our civilization.
Actually to explain something one has to be born into that tradition. Otherwise mistakes and misunderstanding can occur.
@@fullaranag There is no hard and fast rule like that. One of the most renowned Kant scholar was JL Mehta, a BHU prof...
@@avi2125 Kant and Vedas are two separate categories. Moreover I said can happen, not bound to happen.
Witzel's scholarship is most of the times solid, although his malice does show up mow and then. Even Talagiri quotes Witzel at times.
The Dashradnya war, was probably THE reason the indo European is the largest language family in the world.
Western terminology indo European language family my foot , white European had not anything to say anything else. They looted everything and captured . White European are super smlecchas and asuras, indo European language family my foot bakwas 😆😆😆😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
According to Srimad Bhagavatha Puranam, Vishnu Puranam and Valmiki Ramayanam:
Su-Dhasa the father of Sau-Dhasa belongs to Solar Dynasty and
Puru, Yadhu, Thurvasu, Anu, Dhruhyu are all Children of Yayadhi, by His Wives Dhevayani and Sarmishta.
Seems Bha means Prakash rata means involvement, i.e the land which was continuously involving with prakash..
Mugdha, great great job and honor for our country. Thanks.
Thank you so much mam , truly appreciate this knowledge and look forward to more such study of our ancient history 🙏
This is wonderful ji. This is a great initiative by the Bhandarkar institute. Your erudite explanation is very absorbing and informative.
Excellent analysis of the text!
Thank you so much!
Is it true that parsu clan which lost in dasharagnya war was exiled from aryavarta? Are these parsus same as Persians?
yes you are right
yes definitely ..listen to shrikant talagery , zorosthura belonged to spitama clan of spiti valley (himachal)
Persians are people of parsu clan.
Similarly Anu and Druhyu tribes also left India. Anu are said to be in Central Asia now and Druhyus are said to be Druids of Europe
Yes
Very lucid style madam.Thank you for a very interesting subject. Expecting more.
Thank you madam, for this enlightening session. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowledge.
just came across this video and i could not resist myself, it was very enlightening. thank you so much. Pranaama
Very clearly enunciated. Would love to hear more such videos
Amazingly explained ....thank you everyone of ur institutions
Respected Madam,
Keep up the Great work🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
In this video she gave different interpretations from different scholars including witzel but all of those scholars subscribe to Indo-Aryan migration theory. It would have been good had she also included scholars opposing that theory especially Shrikant Talageri who challenged that theory and gave his own interpretation of Dasarajna war with solid evidences as part of his Out of India theory.
Thank you for describing it as it is. Without whitewashing anything with spirituality.
Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute was vandalised in 2004 by Sambhaji Brigade for speaking truth.
please lecture more on rigved . i like to hear .
Maa'm can you throw light on the following aspects of this war_
1)when did this war happen?
i.e period.
2)what was social impact of this war?
3)what was motive behind this war?
4)for how long it was going on,and what weapons,strategy , tactics were used/applied.
Bahut badhiya jankari hai. Dhanyabad......from Kathmandu
Explain more in detail about Prachin Bharat Society, places of importance, not only about Wars.
Absolutely mind blowing mam. Please post something on the connection between Indus Valley and the Vedic cultures.
Indus dont have too much in common with vedic culture. Most vedic tribes lived in UP haryana and bihar. ASI have destroyed most archaeological sites or smuggled artifacts. In nepal they r able to find mahabharat era seals with chariots and krishna but in india u dont find it. Why is that? Because of corrupt ASI and indian govts politics to keep eurocentric history going.
I think we need a new board of education to counter this nehruvian and colonial BS that is NCERT and state board books. And people like this ma'am can be the online teacher for bharatiya history.
Anus - The ancient proto parsis
Druhyus - Druids
Alina - Helenics
Pakhta - Pakhtoons
SIVA - The tribe head of meluha
BHRUGU - phrygians
Anus ,druhyus, Alinas migrated to west after being vanquished in the war...
You could have also refer Shrikant Talageri...
No they were local tribes of Aryan decendency.
nice joke!!!
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 oh according to you if language matches Sanskrit they are migrants from India??🙄
Excellent 👌🏾 podcast
Amazing information
Dasaragna war is an inspiration for mahabharatha story
Very well presented and explained in lucid style this war was between the inter aryan tribes or I believe based on my studies more likely between aryas and anaryas and the defeated anaryas then fled to Iran where their followers composed Avesta their religious texts matsya were fisherman living along saraswati river and currently live along bengal and west coast after saraswati dried up
Ma am , you did not consult vedveer Arya, Srikant Telagiri, Kota venkatachalam, Elst Jijith , Sanjeev Sanyal and other modern historians.
A complete well heeled picture would have emerged.
Our education system must required to include Vedas, Upanishads, Purana, kabya granthas and old indian motivational Sanskrit Tamil Pali literatures to students to allow them know the Realistic History of India, not the translated version of Westerners or the antinational Communist's or Nehru,s version of controversial confusing historical stories and event of the by gone era.
Most Indians feel low of their country due to current situation but think its a myth it was a rich country
Dashrajna referred in Rigveda was was well explained by the speaker. Hope to hear about other studies on Vedas. Thanks.
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Great Effort by Mugdha Ji and BORI! Can you make a video on how to read Vedas? The nomenclature in your video such as Mantra, Shloka and Mandala was a bit difficult to understand.
You could try Shrikanth Talageri's book. It has a wonderful introduction on the families in the Rig Veda and the suktas from wach family.
Very insightful and interesting video!
Great explanation . But why doesn’t this video attempt to discuss timeline at all? Is it because we simply have no info about it or it’s wasn’t considered important enough to be included in the video? Thanks.
One of the tribe was related to Alexander by RN Dandekar, as the speaker says. The timeline is thus inferred by RND.
But the whole of AIT is highly debatable. Vartak and Nilesh Oak team's efforts (to deduce timeline from astronomical references on the text) are noteworthy.
Yes, the oldest found rig Veda manuscript is of 1464 A D
it is in Pune institute
Dasarajna probably happened sometime in 1400 BC.
@Sheetal bhat, sh. Nilesh Oak ji has determined time of Ramayana and Mahabharta as 12663 BCE and 5561 BCE respectively. In case you are interested pleae search as Nilesh Oak.
@@anirudh177 Rig veda is approximately 8000 years old or more.
Dr Mugdha Gadgil, congratulations on a good presentation. Would have liked to see more references to interpretations by Indian scholars rather than western ones. The latter are known to be biased by the Bible, etc.
Now, what if the reference to matsyas was to a coastal tribe? To the horse people was to Arabs? Why should we imagine that the reference was only to head gear, just because some western scholar couldn't imagine a war over larger geographical area? 🤔
Further, since last few years, I have been toying with the idea that the people who were defeated in this war were ancestors of or were actually the early zoarashtrians, because Zarathustra told his people NOT to worship Indra and Rudra and some other vedic gods. Were they angry that their prayers were not heard by these Gods? 🤔
The Purus are said to have moved immediately westward to form Persia which is where Zarathustra established the new monotheistic religion called Zoroastrian, but that came much later.
Apparently they lost their ancient scriptures which may well be the result of the Dasharajna war! The war for Vedas in the Samudra Manthan? This may have something to do with the Gurus Vasishtha and Vishwamitra who were possibly the repositors of the Vedic knowledge, and with Vishwamitra moving back to Bharata the Purus lost twice!
Zarathustra eventually compiled the Zend Avesta (comes from Aveda/Avaida with the 's' being added in this case) with the scriptures that had remained in their collective memory. They do share a few similarities with Vedic rituals (like fire worship or Yagya and mantras) and possibly diverted deliberately from the Vedic beliefs resulting in one god Ahura Mazda with what we know in India as Dvaita school of philosophy. Ahura in Vedic culture is an Asura while the consider Devas as the evil ones, probably the Vedic gods you've mentioned.
While that's a definitely interesting thought it's not possible for arabs or let alone Greeks at this point to partake in a war in Indian subcontinent. We can make mild allusions to Scythians who were expert horse riders but they too lived quite north away.
Totally satisfied ❤
thank you very much for this great demo lecture.
Excellent, dhanyavad
Pls also watch abhijit chavda's podcast he is so genuinely good...
Here "Indra" could mean the king (Sudhas) himself. It's a metaphor to signify someone who has a lot of power, in this case King Sudhas
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What an excellent presentation.
Why is a foreigner's translation being quoted here. I came here to see orignal work in this regard.