Even after Saraswati ceased to exist, we were a continuous civilization, who remember the river with great reverence. So that itself is proof of continous hindu civilization and antiquity.
@@stalinsampras Hindu means according to etymological definition 'Hinan dunodi iti Hindu' means to separate out the unrighteous. It also never told of prosecuting the unrighteous. Just keep them away. Reference :- Nirukta by Yaska
@Altaf Hussain There are many people in india who talk manusmriti seriously (Tam Brahms) maybe you are too ignorant to know that Lmao Casteism has nothing to with Christianity and has everything to do with brahmanism
The sloka “imame gange Yamune Saraswate….” Is chanted every day when we our water on ourselves while bathing. Great to see the geo significance in your talk. Thanks for your video
This is tremendous work by mr. Nilesh Oak. He is doing a great service for India and its people. He is absolutely right in whatever he is saying or whatever arguement he is putting forward in support of our great ancient Vedic civilization. His works prove that we were much more developed and rich than our contemporary civilizations at that point of time around the world and specially the Europeans and western people. When we were discovering something phenomenal which were critical for humanity at that time the westerners were roaming living in caves and roaming around in without any purpose in life. This is just humongous discovery by Nilesh ji. The Problem is that today's so called developed nations try to reject all these findings.
The Saraswati river was mentioned many times in our scriptures. This alone indicates that our Sanatan Dharma is not 5000, 10,000, 20,000 years old etc, but hundred thousand or million of years old.
The impact of TOBA is found in village near Guntur Andhra Pradesh where Archeologist while digging found that 6ft Ash layers and below that there was some evidence of Civilization. When they did analysis of Ash, they found that it belongs to TOBA island. The explosion was a huge that it almost covered areas in heap of ash from TOBA to till India.
@@satyam1529 it is Kurnool not Guntur. Always talking Abt coastal Andhra. Rayalaseema and Telangana have archaeological evidences of human population from 25k to 65k years. There was nothing in Guntur at that time.
Thank you for your fine work. I traveled in India 2008, I told everyone, I lived here when the Sarasvati was a river...nobody understood. when I was 12 i saw a globe in the library (1st), i walked up to it and and stuck my nose right on it and there it was in that fancy writing the words Rann of Kutch, i was stunned (to this day 60 years on) i could not, believe i had found it. i did not know what it was but i had found it and i was thrilled.
@@galenbindewald775 come to india you are time traveler we need you to find truth.. you dont worry about anything about material things like money and future just pack a bag and come… Indians will look to you..
Brilliant, Shri Nileshji, this is a talk that is sure to wipe off the 'woke'. Awesome! Please have at least an ebook published with all the research details and references.
Sir I am a big fan of yours and starting taking interest in our history after watching your vedios on RUclips. . It's surprising to know that how old our Hindu civilisation is and how advanced we were during that period itself. Please keep publishing amd making vedios of your work so that the present and the next generation knoe the true greatness of our civilization. I have one suggestion. Why is our government not approach scholars like you to make a good book on our history and culture for the schools so that the children have right foundation. All our present books on history are misleading. Please put pressure or give suggestion to the government to atleast make the correction now.
Vivekanand centre is running several schools in North - Eastern part of India. Poorvanchal. They have introduced a book for extra - reading for eight th standard students "Invasion That Never Was" by Michel Danino. The author took efforts to publish the book in very lucid language and in abridged form.. a special school edition. The same is now translated into Marathi language by Suhasini Deshpande, published by the Vivekanand center and efforts are being made to introduce the same for schools in maharashtra. Even interested laymen also should read it to erase their past sanskaras made by their school education.. it's interesting.
Please Put the all your lectures in Hindi on RUclips again. So lot many Indians can understand the same. Very good effort for educating the very educated Indians. Keep it UP.
@Nilesh oak ji ...you are a gift of God to reclaim dharmic civilization.....also Bala sanskurathri works with you thanks for all your contributions you have fulfilled essence of your janma..
I like videos a lot sir I have seen many of them like, Mahabharat, ramayan, Bhishma nirvana, surya Siddhanta, and many others on your channel, on Sangham talks, and on sattology
Thank you for sharing your research and knowledge of the great Indian river maa #Sarasvati 🇮🇳 🙏 We are very grateful to your service towards enlightening us.
Is it possible to have our own institues teaching Indology, so that people do not have to think of which university out of India is good for these studies.
Yaar how strange it seems that we Indians could not build such an institution in these 70 years? And then we diss these foreign universities about how they portray our ancient civilizational facts and thoughts in a malefic manner in front of the world, to the student and more importantly to the average Indians so that they keep feeling low about their own past which is so RICH. As u suggested we must put in a lot of effort into researches without any propaganda and bring all that in the open through journals and establishing institutes while obviously growing and becoming more and more powerful in every possible way!
Fantastic Seminar Session... Great Q and A. Thanks to All Scientists, Researchers, Historians, and Writers making a great contribution in correcting Indian History. Govt. of India should acknowledge their hard work and should bring their marvellous contribution to Mainstream Textbooks and Academia. sincere request to @PMOIndia
हमारे वेदों और पुराणों और उपनिषदों और रामायण और महाभारत को काल्पनिक बताकर हमें अपने इतिहास से दूर रखा गया है ताकि हम आर्य है वह कभी भी जान ना सके। लेकिन आज हम आप जैसे ज्ञान के उपासकों की वजह से हमारे पूर्वजों के सच के करीब पहुंच रहे हैं। सनातन धर्म की जय 🙏🙏। हर हर महादेव 🙏🙏
There has been a lot of discussions on evidence-based authentication of actual Indian history. But if an institution wants to teach this, there doesn’t seen to be any systematic teaching material, nor teachers. We cannot wait for the government to take the initiative. Is it possible to generate such teaching material suitable for school level introduction of this subject all the way till advanced university level? Otherwise, we will perpetually need to convert the stream of wrongly taught students for ever. A comprehensive plan be chocked out by like minded committee. The work can be distributed, monitored & managed.
I think the Thar Desert is created when Saraswati river dried up during that period time and small tributaries which were there at time not mentioned in our books, due to their smaller stream something like that.
I come from a Punjabi Hindu family and we identify as Saraswat Brahmins. In fact 45% of all Brahmin descendants in Punjab identify as Saraswat Brahmins. The river is gone, but we still identify with it. That is beautiful.
Nilesh Oak ji, Pranam and dhanyavad. Powerful insights into our ancestry. Its a pleasure to listen to you. Thank you for opening our eyes by imparting right ( satvik) knowledge. We chant Saraswati shloka. Both Goddess Saraswati as well as river Saraswati are close to my heart.😊 Regards 🙏🏵️🙏
Amazing intelligence, discerning power, ability to communicate effectively. Keep up your very valuable work in demystifying facts and wealth of historical and very significant events in Indian subcontinent of such significance
Koti koti praNAms to Nilesh ji for putting this gargantuan effort to release Indian narrative (based on ItihAsic and physical evidence) from the clutches of agenda-driven Western Indologists and their Indian counterparts. Why I feel he will be a huge success is that, he is full of shraddha and isn't doing it for money or awards. This is about having skin in the game, to use another one of Nassim Taleb's famous phrases. When an author does his writing purely to satisfy his passion for the subject, and not for his livelihood, it shows that he has skin in the game. Nilesh ji and many more younger intellectual kshatriyas that are emerging on the Indology horizon may not have PHDs in humanities or may not be part of the academic "scholars" cartel, but they sure possess brilliant intellect, deep sAdhana to do good research and shraddha towards Indic cause. When we reach critical mass in the number of these researchers with skin in the game, our Indian narrative will be in the hands of our people. Satya will triumph in the end.
In India such research is never carried out we are busy aiding conversion to islam and evangelist, probably we are hell bound to keep gods in museums than temples
populistic methods wholesale conversion tactics ,-not there in hinduism. Even slightly rearing its head now and whole lot of awareness about hinduism (essence of sanatana dharma)is immediately dubbed as "hindutva" ,RSS .. or anything political!!!Generations of Hindus of some /many familes during british era slowly stopped believing their own customs ,rituals, culture, started calling themselves atheists,and such people were easily drawn into other faiths.-leave alone forceful conversions during mughal rule and later portugese down south. In such scenario whither Hinduism?
@@vijaysainath9691 honestly speaking,it would die out from subcontinent and people who are adopting to it in foreign will keep it alive after a century or so.
"Cut a Diamond with a Diamond" and use Desi names to rubbish India- 18 min .. you are "frank" and "bold" 😀, river signature at 59 min 🤗. Your stamina, your linking of complex information from practical point of view and substantiating with logic and research.. best👌
Please keep this meaningful discussions going ahead. Let many of the serious bring in interested & the nuetrals & take on the fake narators & finally the truth will prevail by proving the fake narators with their contradictions in their own positions & with real & ligically perceived proofs/dialogoues.👌👌👏👏🙏
Indians need to give a damn about Western Approval and have confidence in their interpretation;after all the Indians gave the world the number system,conceived zero,forged ahead in metallurgy ,architecture,created fabulous languages,scripted Epics,introduced Yoga,Ayurveda and virtually were ahead of rest of the world in every conceivable field!Anyways absolutely fascinating lecture on Saraswati!
Ours is continuous civilization and it's good that we have platforms to learn and get knowledge from our non European centric sources. Let's move up and catch up and learn from past histories to get more United against enemies in many guises within and foreign as well
Please Put the entire lecture in Hindi on RUclips again. So lot many Indians can understand the same. Very good effort for educating the very educated Indians. Keep it UP.
Saraswats, from Kashmir, have settled down along coastal area of Karnataka, from Rathnagiri to Kasargod-driven from place to place by fantics of some religions. Anthropology can prove they are from banks of river saraswati.
Small suggestion to improve visualisation would be to show the river flow diagrams as you did in the first part in the last part of the Saraswati journey timeline explanation. Here it is pure text and we can’t quickly recall all that you mentioned in the first part.
"Intensification of Monsoon" in the Mahabharata time.. No doubt we have Krishna holding the "Govardhan" on his little finger to protect the residents of Gokul from the incessant rain.. Are there any other mentions of the intensified Monsoon in Mahabharata? Also does the presence of Aravalli affect the "shifting" of Sarasvati from the Bikaner channel to Kalibhangan channel?
1. Yes, There are other mentions of intensified Monsoon in the Mahabharata text. 2. Presence of Aravali has no effect on the shifting of Sarasvati. Study Tectonic and earth crust displacement effects.
There are many chances that river Sarasvati might be travelling below the soil some kilometers as Antharvahini. When i went to Allahabad people are saying it is Triveni sangham (Ganga, Yamuna and Sarasvati confluence). Great Minds can dig it deep and understand the things. It might be existing now also but we cant see the things below the hard rocks.
Great presentation and mythology. There is one point that can be made. Archelogical evidence can be a problem without direct first hand evidence from a witness. That is exactly what can be found in eye witness stories in ancient scriptures. Especially when those facts can be tested scientifically in order to assert their value. (If you know it from someone who has seen it while you where not there.) In that case you dont have to base the truth on your theory or your interpretation anymore.
7:53 please help me to find resources to learn more about the dates and errors. I heard many times from you about carbon dating done using soil sampling. Is it same?
Why we do not shoot a long 2D high resolution seismic profile and trace the horizontal migration of buried channel and integrate it with index fossil data from shallow bores to finally clinch the issue beyond the pale.
Saraswati has shifted course three times. My question is, that, is the three courses of the same river, or could it have been three different rivers that is referred to as Saraswati ?
Why this Nationalist government is not supporting young archeologists and historians discover the truth about history of Bharat civilization.... they only talk but financial support is not seen?
आओ चले असत्य से सत्य की ओर , अंधकार से प्रकाश की ओर , मृत्यु से अमृत्व की ओर , आओ चले प्रकृति की ओर , आओ चले " सनातन " की ओर | धर्म की जय हो, अधर्म का नाश हो |
Nilesh Oak and Srikanth Talagiri are perfect example of two extremes of our scholars, where Srikanth is too conservative in his estimations, Nilesh Oak just didn't give a shit about any other evidence other than what makes sense to him. I mean he makes some valid points, but he often didn't even want to consider valid points from other side of the arguments. But I understand what both these people are doing is great works, and with more and more people taking interest in this subjects, truth will reveal itself soon.
@@NileshOak Sir, I first want to state that I from Shrikant Talageri ji school of thought, he used invention of spoked wheel to date to date Rigveda to 3000 - 2500 BCE (which I think was very conservative) or earlier which also coincides with finding of spoked wheel figurine in I think Terracotta dated about 3000 BCE, I think they also find some figurine in Mehrgarh which takes date back to about 7000 BCE, so if you say the Rigveda is 24000 years old just based on description of a poet about a river, I think that's far fetched because of course a poet living in Haryana going to describe river Sarasvati as grandest river but I don't know how we can make conclusion only based on poetry (yes you make connection with some archaeology but I cant understand how one can make such connection without having solid date of the poem already established), similarly in your Sugriva's Atlas video some asked you did we even had big enough ship at time of Ramayana to make travel to south America, you dismissed him with a speculation that we found human skeleton in Americas that goes back to 20000 BCE or something so they must have had big Ships, once again I don't know how we can make any conclusion like that only based on text. I am not trying to be critical, I am just trying to understand better, I appreciate works of people like you, it would be great if you can make a conversation with people like Shrikant Talageri, Abhijit Chavda, Raj Vedam and others, maybe that can shed more light on ancient history, Thank You.
@@playhard719 Thank you. I know all the folks you mentioned at the end of your note very well and I hold conversations with them, when required, from time to time. All good points. I have addressed them in the past and may address them in the future when the opportunity presents itself. 1. Grand Sarasvati and Rigveda before 24K 2. Big ships in 12209 BCE Thank you again. 🙏🙏
@@NileshOak from what I observed from a discussion by talageri on charvaka podcast, is talageri ji is too obsessed with witzel's work He is accepting 90% of witzel's work and denies only Aryan invasion part
@@ameynamjoshi741 In a way, right or wrong, that is the strength of Talageri's work. He takes the western model of linguistics as valid and still shows that AIT is nonsense. Unfortunately, when it comes to absolute chronology, he has given up all sense of logical reasoning, scientific acumen, empirical evidence, Tarka-shastra, Tantrra-yukti. His absolute chronology for Rigveda goes against his own logic/explanations and conclusions for relative chronology or direction of language transfer or OIT.
Even after Saraswati ceased to exist, we were a continuous civilization, who remember the river with great reverence. So that itself is proof of continous hindu civilization and antiquity.
Sister can Please explain what an Hindu is? You seem to know what it means
@@stalinsampras Hindu means according to etymological definition 'Hinan dunodi iti Hindu' means to separate out the unrighteous. It also never told of prosecuting the unrighteous. Just keep them away. Reference :- Nirukta by Yaska
@Altaf Hussain There are many people in india who talk manusmriti seriously (Tam Brahms) maybe you are too ignorant to know that
Lmao Casteism has nothing to with Christianity and has everything to do with brahmanism
@Altaf Hussain you make Allah a liar when you called the Bible names, as he approves Torah and injeel which was between moahmmed hands
@Altaf Hussain they didn’t want to walk the narrow path unto salvation. Hence they chose the broad road that leads to destruction.
The sloka “imame gange Yamune Saraswate….” Is chanted every day when we our water on ourselves while bathing. Great to see the geo significance in your talk. Thanks for your video
This mantra chanted during Ganga pooja or Kalash pooja.
@@frankmaninde3989 maybe it's a family tradition of his to speak during bath.
Even when we do pooja, the water is purified invoking the waters from different rivers of Bharata.
This is tremendous work by mr. Nilesh Oak. He is doing a great service for India and its people. He is absolutely right in whatever he is saying or whatever arguement he is putting forward in support of our great ancient Vedic civilization. His works prove that we were much more developed and rich than our contemporary civilizations at that point of time around the world and specially the Europeans and western people. When we were discovering something phenomenal which were critical for humanity at that time the westerners were roaming living in caves and roaming around in without any purpose in life. This is just humongous discovery by Nilesh ji. The Problem is that today's so called developed nations try to reject all these findings.
Fantastic Nileshji. Original. Looks like we are indeed the Saraswati Civilization. Powerful insights into Indian ancestry
Luckily, we have people like you to teach us our real itihas. Thanks a million.
The Saraswati river was mentioned many times in our scriptures. This alone indicates that our Sanatan Dharma is not 5000, 10,000, 20,000 years old etc, but hundred thousand or million of years old.
Best part, i reside in Ludhiana between shatadri and Saraswati plain and also have gone to TOBA island multiple times, he mentioned.....😄
The impact of TOBA is found in village near Guntur Andhra Pradesh where Archeologist while digging found that 6ft Ash layers and below that there was some evidence of Civilization. When they did analysis of Ash, they found that it belongs to TOBA island. The explosion was a huge that it almost covered areas in heap of ash from TOBA to till India.
@@satyam1529 it is Kurnool not Guntur. Always talking Abt coastal Andhra. Rayalaseema and Telangana have archaeological evidences of human population from 25k to 65k years. There was nothing in Guntur at that time.
Thank you for your fine work. I traveled in India 2008, I told everyone, I lived here when the Sarasvati was a river...nobody understood. when I was 12 i saw a globe in the library (1st), i walked up to it and and stuck my nose right on it and there it was in that fancy writing the words Rann of Kutch, i was stunned (to this day 60 years on) i could not, believe i had found it. i did not know what it was but i had found it and i was thrilled.
What are u saying?
So u lived here 7k years ago
@@gayatri555 I have very strong feelings about the time and place. Sarasvati is a key to me.
Are you high?
@@galenbindewald775 come to india you are time traveler we need you to find truth.. you dont worry about anything about material things like money and future just pack a bag and come… Indians will look to you..
No Doubt in my mind
About maa River Saraswati
Never had one
Now cleared in a fine way
खूप खूप कौतुकास्पद 🙏🙏🙏
Brilliant, Shri Nileshji, this is a talk that is sure to wipe off the 'woke'. Awesome! Please have at least an ebook published with all the research details and references.
It is always pleasure to listen to you, Nilesh ji. Every time you learn something new. Your lectures take us into antiquity of India. Thanx. 🙏🙏
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🙏🙏🙏to Nilesh Oak for the dedicated research and logic on the Saraswati River.
Sir I am a big fan of yours and starting taking interest in our history after watching your vedios on RUclips. . It's surprising to know that how old our Hindu civilisation is and how advanced we were during that period itself. Please keep publishing amd making vedios of your work so that the present and the next generation knoe the true greatness of our civilization.
I have one suggestion. Why is our government not approach scholars like you to make a good book on our history and culture for the schools so that the children have right foundation. All our present books on history are misleading. Please put pressure or give suggestion to the government to atleast make the correction now.
Vivekanand centre is running several schools in North - Eastern part of India. Poorvanchal. They have introduced a book for extra - reading for eight th standard students "Invasion That Never Was" by Michel Danino. The author took efforts to publish the book in very lucid language and in abridged form.. a special school edition.
The same is now translated into Marathi language by Suhasini Deshpande, published by the Vivekanand center and efforts are being made to introduce the same for schools in maharashtra. Even interested laymen also should read it to erase their past sanskaras made by their school education.. it's interesting.
Rishi Nilesh Oak ji is a phenomenon. My danda Namaskaram to him. I have a lot of reading to do before I begin understanding his works.
Please Put the all your lectures in Hindi on RUclips again. So lot many Indians can understand the same. Very good effort for educating the very educated Indians. Keep it UP.
@Nilesh oak ji ...you are a gift of God to reclaim dharmic civilization.....also Bala sanskurathri works with you thanks for all your contributions you have fulfilled essence of your janma..
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I like videos a lot sir
I have seen many of them like, Mahabharat, ramayan, Bhishma nirvana, surya Siddhanta, and many others on your channel, on Sangham talks, and on sattology
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Thank you for sharing your research and knowledge of the great Indian river maa #Sarasvati 🇮🇳 🙏
We are very grateful to your service towards enlightening us.
Thank you.
Appreciate your knowledge and kind of facts you show to world. Great work Sir
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Nilesh Oak is the best of all
Is it possible to have our own institues teaching Indology, so that people do not have to think of which university out of India is good for these studies.
Yaar how strange it seems that we Indians could not build such an institution in these 70 years? And then we diss these foreign universities about how they portray our ancient civilizational facts and thoughts in a malefic manner in front of the world, to the student and more importantly to the average Indians so that they keep feeling low about their own past which is so RICH.
As u suggested we must put in a lot of effort into researches without any propaganda and bring all that in the open through journals and establishing institutes while obviously growing and becoming more and more powerful in every possible way!
We need such badly. Indian education needs reforms
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Fantastic Seminar Session... Great Q and A. Thanks to All Scientists, Researchers, Historians, and Writers making a great contribution in correcting Indian History. Govt. of India should acknowledge their hard work and should bring their marvellous contribution to Mainstream Textbooks and Academia. sincere request to @PMOIndia
Wonderful research and truthful statement by Nilesh.sir
हमारे वेदों और पुराणों और उपनिषदों और रामायण और महाभारत को काल्पनिक बताकर हमें अपने इतिहास से दूर रखा गया है ताकि हम आर्य है वह कभी भी जान ना सके। लेकिन आज हम आप जैसे ज्ञान के उपासकों की वजह से हमारे पूर्वजों के सच के करीब पहुंच रहे हैं। सनातन धर्म की जय 🙏🙏। हर हर महादेव 🙏🙏
Yes...and stolen our valuable ancient books.
Intense research...a real eye opener...thank you young scholar
Very much amasing at the research made on Saraswathi river .A great awakening of our thinking and accepting . Definitely True facts should prevail
💯 Correct Nilesh. Indians need to break out of the western conditioning if they are to truly understand their history.
Absolutely amazing!! Nilesh on the front foot!! Taking names and calling out faces!!!
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There has been a lot of discussions on evidence-based authentication of actual Indian history. But if an institution wants to teach this, there doesn’t seen to be any systematic teaching material, nor teachers. We cannot wait for the government to take the initiative. Is it possible to generate such teaching material suitable for school level introduction of this subject all the way till advanced university level? Otherwise, we will perpetually need to convert the stream of wrongly taught students for ever. A comprehensive plan be chocked out by like minded committee. The work can be distributed, monitored & managed.
A break through can come if we look at it from global point of view, like Greenland crater......
Saraswati will flow again, to mark the beginning of satya yuga
@El Malakh Feo maybe we can see it in another reincarnation
Yes... definitely.
I think the Thar Desert is created when Saraswati river dried up during that period time and small tributaries which were there at time not mentioned in our books, due to their smaller stream something like that.
I come from a Punjabi Hindu family and we identify as Saraswat Brahmins. In fact 45% of all Brahmin descendants in Punjab identify as Saraswat Brahmins. The river is gone, but we still identify with it. That is beautiful.
Thank you making us informed. This is indeed a new beginning to understand our culture more scientifically. ❤
Thanks a lot Sangam talks for providing us with such great info
Deep understanding and clear concepts 👌👌👍👍🙏🙏🙏
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Nilesh Oak ji,
Pranam and dhanyavad.
Powerful insights into our ancestry. Its a pleasure to listen to you. Thank you for opening our eyes by imparting right ( satvik) knowledge. We chant Saraswati shloka. Both Goddess Saraswati as well as river Saraswati are close to my heart.😊
Regards
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Revival of ancient sanatan hindu civilizational strength 👍🚩🚩🚩🚩
Dear Nilesh Sir ... Waiting for this session
You are doing great work, all Indians are with you
Amazing intelligence, discerning power, ability to communicate effectively. Keep up your very valuable work in demystifying facts and wealth of historical and very significant events in Indian subcontinent of such significance
Jai shree Ram
Thank you Nilesh. May God bless you
Koti koti praNAms to Nilesh ji for putting this gargantuan effort to release Indian narrative (based on ItihAsic and physical evidence) from the clutches of agenda-driven Western Indologists and their Indian counterparts. Why I feel he will be a huge success is that, he is full of shraddha and isn't doing it for money or awards. This is about having skin in the game, to use another one of Nassim Taleb's famous phrases. When an author does his writing purely to satisfy his passion for the subject, and not for his livelihood, it shows that he has skin in the game. Nilesh ji and many more younger intellectual kshatriyas that are emerging on the Indology horizon may not have PHDs in humanities or may not be part of the academic "scholars" cartel, but they sure possess brilliant intellect, deep sAdhana to do good research and shraddha towards Indic cause. When we reach critical mass in the number of these researchers with skin in the game, our Indian narrative will be in the hands of our people. Satya will triumph in the end.
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The Swaraswati River had always been my core interest post I read Michelle Danio on it. Thanks for this lecture Sir. My Humble warm regards.
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yes you are very much correct about Devdutt...
Mind blowing discussion. Opened up lot of literature for me
In India such research is never carried out we are busy aiding conversion to islam and evangelist, probably we are hell bound to keep gods in museums than temples
populistic methods wholesale conversion tactics ,-not there in hinduism. Even slightly rearing its head now and whole lot of awareness about hinduism (essence of sanatana dharma)is immediately dubbed as "hindutva" ,RSS .. or anything political!!!Generations of Hindus of some /many familes during british era slowly stopped believing their own customs ,rituals, culture, started calling themselves atheists,and such people were easily drawn into other faiths.-leave alone forceful conversions during mughal rule and later portugese down south. In such scenario whither Hinduism?
@@vijaysainath9691 honestly speaking,it would die out from subcontinent and people who are adopting to it in foreign will keep it alive after a century or so.
Indepth analysis with facts
Thanks for this research and knowledge sharing with us.
Salute. Koti koti naman. Humanity will be under debt forever like it is to the sages of ancient india. Thank you
VERY VERY INTERESTING AND AUTHENTIC HISTORIC AND ALSO GEOGRAPHIC NARRATEVES OF ANCIENT BHARAT .
Nileshji your work is tremendous.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
You are a great presenter with excellent communication skills.
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Thank you so much Nilesh ji!
Thank you Nilesh Ji .💕
Greatful
"Cut a Diamond with a Diamond" and use Desi names to rubbish India- 18 min .. you are "frank" and "bold" 😀, river signature at 59 min 🤗. Your stamina, your linking of complex information from practical point of view and substantiating with logic and research.. best👌
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Wonderful initiative and beautiful statement by you sir
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Please keep this meaningful discussions going ahead. Let many of the serious bring in interested & the nuetrals & take on the fake narators & finally the truth will prevail by proving the fake narators with their contradictions in their own positions & with real & ligically perceived proofs/dialogoues.👌👌👏👏🙏
We r saraswatas
Indians need to give a damn about Western Approval and have confidence in their interpretation;after all the Indians gave the world the number system,conceived zero,forged ahead in metallurgy ,architecture,created fabulous languages,scripted Epics,introduced Yoga,Ayurveda and virtually were ahead of rest of the world in every conceivable field!Anyways absolutely fascinating lecture on Saraswati!
Great work sir, Greetings 🙏🙏
Well said Nilesh ji.
Nilesh ji where can I find the description of geography around saraswati when rigveda was written. And trees plants that grew around saraswati?
Ours is continuous civilization and it's good that we have platforms to learn and get knowledge from our non European centric sources. Let's move up and catch up and learn from past histories to get more United against enemies in many guises within and foreign as well
It was great, thanks Nileshji 😊🙏
Mr Oak says as it is; i like it!
This is so Wonderful for me that ,I don't want it to share it.
Please write a book on this .... I bought your mahabharat and ramayan book.... absolute pure knowledge 0% propaganda
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good talk by a learned person.
There are Saraswat Bramhins in Maharashtra who used to live near Saraswati river.
Nilesh oak sir 💙💙
I always lamented when did River Saraswathi exist. Your evidence makes me believe that the early parts of Rigveda could easily be dated to 7000 BCE.
Namaskar Guruji.
excellent
Great Job Sir .. Thanks
A wonderful presentation , Nilesh !
Please Put the entire lecture in Hindi on RUclips again. So lot many Indians can understand the same. Very good effort for educating the very educated Indians. Keep it UP.
25:30,Love your work!
Saraswats, from Kashmir, have settled down along coastal area of Karnataka, from Rathnagiri to Kasargod-driven from place to place by fantics of some religions. Anthropology can prove they are from banks of river saraswati.
But genetically it's proven that they are of Eureshian origin....kayastha.
Small suggestion to improve visualisation would be to show the river flow diagrams as you did in the first part in the last part of the Saraswati journey timeline explanation. Here it is pure text and we can’t quickly recall all that you mentioned in the first part.
"Intensification of Monsoon" in the Mahabharata time.. No doubt we have Krishna holding the "Govardhan" on his little finger to protect the residents of Gokul from the incessant rain.. Are there any other mentions of the intensified Monsoon in Mahabharata?
Also does the presence of Aravalli affect the "shifting" of Sarasvati from the Bikaner channel to Kalibhangan channel?
1. Yes, There are other mentions of intensified Monsoon in the Mahabharata text.
2. Presence of Aravali has no effect on the shifting of Sarasvati. Study Tectonic and earth crust displacement effects.
I may be wrong but wasn’t the existence of River Saraswathi proved through satellite imaging?
Correct. But this is about dating of the rivers
There are many chances that river Sarasvati might be travelling below the soil some kilometers as Antharvahini. When i went to Allahabad people are saying it is Triveni sangham (Ganga, Yamuna and Sarasvati confluence). Great Minds can dig it deep and understand the things. It might be existing now also but we cant see the things below the hard rocks.
Very informative
Unfortunately , placing history outside of India makes them feel better , the truth is far too bitter for them to swallow.
Great presentation and mythology.
There is one point that can be made. Archelogical evidence can be a problem without direct first hand evidence from a witness. That is exactly what can be found in eye witness stories in ancient scriptures. Especially when those facts can be tested scientifically in order to assert their value. (If you know it from someone who has seen it while you where not there.) In that case you dont have to base the truth on your theory or your interpretation anymore.
The value of evidence is often not intrinsic but exentric, given by the context in which it is placed and the consensus about how it is interpreted.
HAR HAR MAHADEV
Sir, great 🙏🙏 thank you
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7:53 please help me to find resources to learn more about the dates and errors. I heard many times from you about carbon dating done using soil sampling. Is it same?
Why we do not shoot a long 2D high resolution seismic profile and trace the horizontal migration of buried channel and integrate it with index fossil data from shallow bores to finally clinch the issue beyond the pale.
Do it. Great idea.
You are one of very few who refers to Toba explosion.
Being from jaipur pleasantly surprised that initial channel passed through here.
Saraswati has shifted course three times. My question is, that, is the three courses of the same river, or could it have been three different rivers that is referred to as Saraswati ?
Same river through three different courses, one course at any given time. Beginning in the SE and moving towards NW, at least twice.
Great knowledge but still have little confusion which I'll try n sort out if not I'll come back to you.
Anyways thank you somuch.
सनातन धर्म. की. किताबो. मे. सच. हे
Why this Nationalist government is not supporting young archeologists and historians discover the truth about history of Bharat civilization.... they only talk but financial support is not seen?
आओ चले असत्य से सत्य की ओर , अंधकार से प्रकाश की ओर , मृत्यु से अमृत्व की ओर , आओ चले प्रकृति की ओर , आओ चले " सनातन " की ओर | धर्म की जय हो, अधर्म का नाश हो |
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You and Praveen Mohan should definitely work together.
Nilesh Oak and Srikanth Talagiri are perfect example of two extremes of our scholars, where Srikanth is too conservative in his estimations, Nilesh Oak just didn't give a shit about any other evidence other than what makes sense to him. I mean he makes some valid points, but he often didn't even want to consider valid points from other side of the arguments. But I understand what both these people are doing is great works, and with more and more people taking interest in this subjects, truth will reveal itself soon.
Please list examples of 'Valid evidence presented by others that I did not consider'. Thank you.
@@NileshOak Sir, I first want to state that I from Shrikant Talageri ji school of thought, he used invention of spoked wheel to date to date Rigveda to 3000 - 2500 BCE (which I think was very conservative) or earlier which also coincides with finding of spoked wheel figurine in I think Terracotta dated about 3000 BCE, I think they also find some figurine in Mehrgarh which takes date back to about 7000 BCE, so if you say the Rigveda is 24000 years old just based on description of a poet about a river, I think that's far fetched because of course a poet living in Haryana going to describe river Sarasvati as grandest river but I don't know how we can make conclusion only based on poetry (yes you make connection with some archaeology but I cant understand how one can make such connection without having solid date of the poem already established), similarly in your Sugriva's Atlas video some asked you did we even had big enough ship at time of Ramayana to make travel to south America, you dismissed him with a speculation that we found human skeleton in Americas that goes back to 20000 BCE or something so they must have had big Ships, once again I don't know how we can make any conclusion like that only based on text.
I am not trying to be critical, I am just trying to understand better, I appreciate works of people like you, it would be great if you can make a conversation with people like Shrikant Talageri, Abhijit Chavda, Raj Vedam and others, maybe that can shed more light on ancient history, Thank You.
@@playhard719 Thank you.
I know all the folks you mentioned at the end of your note very well and I hold conversations with them, when required, from time to time.
All good points. I have addressed them in the past and may address them in the future when the opportunity presents itself.
1. Grand Sarasvati and Rigveda before 24K
2. Big ships in 12209 BCE
Thank you again. 🙏🙏
@@NileshOak from what I observed from a discussion by talageri on charvaka podcast, is talageri ji is too obsessed with witzel's work
He is accepting 90% of witzel's work and denies only Aryan invasion part
@@ameynamjoshi741 In a way, right or wrong, that is the strength of Talageri's work. He takes the western model of linguistics as valid and still shows that AIT is nonsense.
Unfortunately, when it comes to absolute chronology, he has given up all sense of logical reasoning, scientific acumen, empirical evidence, Tarka-shastra, Tantrra-yukti. His absolute chronology for Rigveda goes against his own logic/explanations and conclusions for relative chronology or direction of language transfer or OIT.